Borderlands 2: Buffed Unforgiven- Does it still suck!?

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • The Unforgiven is a Pearlescent rarity Jakobs pistol that is available most commonly in Digistruct Peak from OMGWTH, or the Binary Boss.
    Compared to a normal Jakobs barreled Jakobs pistol, it has increased damage and critical hit modifiers, but it has a much lower fire rate. The weapon also has increased recoil and possibly weapon sway. Without the patch, the weapon is viable, but it is outclassed by most other options.
    With the patch, the gun gains additional Damage and a much higher fire rate. After the patch, the gun can at least out speed Jakobs snipers, which is a huge improvement for the weapon and it allows the pistol to not be completely outclassed by snipers.
    With Zer0, snipers are still always going to be stronger, but that doesn't mean that the Unforgiven sucks. It's definitely powerful enough to warrant its use, and it's a lot more fun to use now that its fire rate isn't atrocious.
    The gun definitely no longer sucks. Happy to have found one on my farming character.
    I am playing with the community patch which can be found here: mentalmars.com...
    Tutorial for patch:
    • Borderlands 2: Communi...

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  • @lesserknown5138
    @lesserknown5138 6 років тому +245

    I hope in borderlands 3 they handle the idea of powerful yet slow weapons a lot better than in 2.

    • @geoserenity
      @geoserenity 6 років тому +14

      LesserKnown i'd like to see a patch option which gives you an unforgiven with low fire rate and high reload, but gives a scope and uses up the whole mag for a massive damage shot. That'd put it in line with snipers and make a great backup for sniper Zer0

    • @izaakburningham3188
      @izaakburningham3188 6 років тому +3

      Ummm, dude, Vladof Launcher, need I say more?

    • @zz_01001
      @zz_01001 6 років тому +1

      Hand cannon?

    • @drivanradosivic1357
      @drivanradosivic1357 5 років тому

      the Reborn mod did this.

    • @raven75257
      @raven75257 5 років тому

      Well, new Unforgiven feels amazing. But we don't right now how it works at end game

  • @jR0xas
    @jR0xas 6 років тому +48

    The Skin on the unpatched version is actually the same as the purple Iron without the gemstone skin.

    • @ageidyne
      @ageidyne 6 років тому +3

      Kurt Cobain Yeah I'm pretty sure that all pearlescent weapons, except the Butcher, have the same skin as their purple versions.

    • @giantmagicalduck3604
      @giantmagicalduck3604 6 років тому +4

      Bekah, Carnage, Wanderlust and Godfinger have their own skins. So, all the ones that got added with the UVH-2 pack.

    • @ageidyne
      @ageidyne 6 років тому +2

      Giant Magical Duck Yeah those do, I meant the 1st Gen of pearls.

  • @Techhunter_Talon
    @Techhunter_Talon 6 років тому +16

    In a way, I do like the idea of the Unforgiven essentially being like how revolvers were in Borderlands 1. A slow firing but hard hitting weapon that is essentially a pocket sniper rifle in the terms of how it functions.

  • @someguy3060
    @someguy3060 6 років тому +12

    “Because they’re kind of going to behave in the same manner” That was beautiful.

  • @xtreemzy
    @xtreemzy 6 років тому +15

    Who remembers the fucking pump snipers from Borderlands 1. A pump-action sniper with a revolver magasine, heh thats an awesome thought.

  • @marcussingleton7604
    @marcussingleton7604 6 років тому +2

    Just love how thoroughly you describe every video you do, it’s highly appreciated and the main reason i watch your videos.

  • @DragonBallStrike
    @DragonBallStrike 6 років тому +152

    is it just me or are the pearls in BL2 pretty underwhelming

    • @danaj4778
      @danaj4778 6 років тому +55

      DragonBallStrike .....yes its you
      And ur the first person in the entire gaming community to notice that

    • @maggi98mw
      @maggi98mw 6 років тому +25

      DragonBallStrike some are very good. Stalker, Bekah, Sawbar, Butcher and Avenger were great

    • @helpmesmugglememesintheeu2086
      @helpmesmugglememesintheeu2086 6 років тому +14

      Markus Wiedner carnage is nice too

    • @helpmesmugglememesintheeu2086
      @helpmesmugglememesintheeu2086 6 років тому

      Markus Wiedner carnage is nice too

    • @fusefire8200
      @fusefire8200 6 років тому

      DragonBallStrike except for a few e.g sawbar, avenger and bekka, butcher, carnage and the stalker is ok

  • @KVGUP
    @KVGUP 6 років тому +12

    If there are pearlescent weapons in BL3 I hope they balance it so that they are typically better than the lower rarities when used correctly

  • @dylantoska8726
    @dylantoska8726 6 років тому +2

    MOLMF I love your videos so much they give me a vision into the end game and how the characters synergies and it just makes my day better watching your videos keep up great work !!

  • @GigaBowserXL
    @GigaBowserXL 2 роки тому

    I love Luke's way of methodically talking through and demonstrating all the parts, damage numbers, comparisons, etc. It's extremely clean and professional.

  • @karkosgiehex
    @karkosgiehex 6 років тому +12

    Needless to say, the Unforgiven has become a much more potent tool with the community patch. I will withhold my delighted reaction to the Avenger, but promise that it's worth the wait.

  • @peteranderson6571
    @peteranderson6571 6 років тому +10

    The community patch card says a damage boost of 50% but in actuality it's only 10%. It SHOULD be 50. It needed it being a hand cannon. The new skin is great though

  • @reconjohn
    @reconjohn 6 років тому +1

    Man, you’re just flooding me with content! I love it! Keep up the great work my man.

  • @geoserenity
    @geoserenity 6 років тому +7

    Unforgiven? More like...forgiven now, actually...

  • @michaelsoto2158
    @michaelsoto2158 6 років тому +2

    Love the videos man I like your voice btw hope you keep up the grinde

  • @lambda6145
    @lambda6145 6 років тому +1

    Buffs aside, I love the skins that the patch gives to certain guns. Tells you how awesome the Borderlands community is.

  • @lughfiregod16
    @lughfiregod16 6 років тому

    It takes a bit of getting used to, but mouse wheel down for your shooting button pairs well with "fires as fast as you can pull the trigger".

  • @ricotheexmongolianslave692
    @ricotheexmongolianslave692 6 років тому +2

    "Unforgiven? More like unforgettable"
    -vynlicpuma

    • @devynrogersbeats
      @devynrogersbeats 5 років тому

      Unforgivable*

    • @yourdaddy2004
      @yourdaddy2004 5 років тому

      As an active demonite watcher i would just like to say vinylic puma always plays as sal and uses the grog nozzle so he is pretty bad at the game if he cant make a decent gun work

  • @bradypahl
    @bradypahl 6 років тому +3

    The skin on the unforgiven now is just absolutely beautiful OwO But even with the buffs it still feels off like it's decent as a pearl which is more rare then a legendary it should be better maybe if it was more like the Maggie (the legendary jakobs pistol i always felt should have been the comparison to) with the "shotgun" multiplier it would be better.

  • @iancarter1623
    @iancarter1623 6 років тому +20

    It still suuuuuucks😅
    Hey Luke, glad you’re back bro. Missed you. Mayhaps you can do a 0 to op8 playthrough with the patch?

    • @stoptryingtosoundsmart9213
      @stoptryingtosoundsmart9213 6 років тому

      Yes

    • @probably-Theo
      @probably-Theo 6 років тому +2

      With Salvador you can do insane dmg like 198 000 k when you stack the damage do over the health

    • @iancarter1623
      @iancarter1623 6 років тому +4

      Théo But Luke doesn’t play Salvador~ He actively hates Sal😅 Can’t say I blame him, little TOO op for my taste.

    • @fusefire8200
      @fusefire8200 6 років тому +1

      It doesn’t suck I’ve tested it on axton,maya,gaige, criege and it’s sucks on them but with sal it’s ok and zero it performs as it should

    • @erenyeager6015
      @erenyeager6015 6 років тому +1

      Ian Skellington
      Yeah, Sal is probably one of the most boring and uninvolved characters
      I'd rather play axton or Krieg for exposive builds. I love me some big booms

  • @eugene_833
    @eugene_833 6 років тому +6

    Am i the only who has whole-black skin for the Unforgiven with the community patch?

    • @HikariDesu
      @HikariDesu 6 років тому

      Евгений Лермонтов I think i have it too

    • @danisuperedition
      @danisuperedition 6 років тому

      I have a whole black skin for the avenger as well, Even though in MolMF has it coloured differently (Saw it on one of his load screens)
      Maybe a visual bug?

    • @HikariDesu
      @HikariDesu 6 років тому

      Yakov Raikh ohh ok I’ll try that

    • @fusefire8200
      @fusefire8200 6 років тому

      I got it like it more

    • @eugene_833
      @eugene_833 5 років тому

      Half-a-year after i realised it because of depth of field turned off.

  • @TheTundraTerror
    @TheTundraTerror 6 років тому +1

    The fact that the first batch of pearls didn't have any kind of special skins kinda sucked ass.

  • @Wongatello
    @Wongatello 6 років тому +1

    You didn't knock off H3RL-E's arm at 25:13 because you didn't hit the crit spot, you were aiming to the right of it and hit the joint.
    Can you take a look at the patched Law and Order combo on a Melee Zero?

  • @rocker26a
    @rocker26a 6 років тому

    Might have been an idea to compare it to the Maggie. Both performance and the skin. They're remarkably similar.

  • @ouroboro7188
    @ouroboro7188 6 років тому +5

    I sure hope there will be returning gear in Bl3 ;)

    • @Caenen_LeagueTechnical
      @Caenen_LeagueTechnical 6 років тому +2

      I hope they mix it up well, one reason TPS feels to me like merely new content is because it practically returns 90% of the previous weapon cast. That's a whole vein of potential new content shut :(

    • @raven75257
      @raven75257 5 років тому

      Well, unforgiven (now as legendary) and infinity has been returned

  • @TrickyRover
    @TrickyRover 6 років тому +1

    I used Unforgiven with UCP, and it actually wasn't bad.

  • @blootzy1868
    @blootzy1868 6 років тому +1

    The new skin for the Unforgiven reminds me of the skin for the Maggie on pre sequel. Could be wrong

    • @jacobkern2060
      @jacobkern2060 6 років тому

      The Maggie has the same skin in TPS that it does in BL2. You're just used to seeing it covered in Luneshine.

    • @danthonygregory4157
      @danthonygregory4157 5 років тому

      Base game unforgiven is a purple rarity skin. The patch version showcased here is similar to the maggie, but is teal instead of pink

  • @JoeMama-nc3bw
    @JoeMama-nc3bw 2 роки тому

    We miss ya Luke I hope you’re doing good

  • @giantmagicalduck3604
    @giantmagicalduck3604 6 років тому

    16:00 yeah you knocked that gun arm right off of that EXP loader.
    Also, maybe points in Precision would've helped to negate the initial sway of the gun? Like, one point in Two-fang instead of five, four points in Presicion?

  • @vivec4062
    @vivec4062 6 років тому

    *finds unforgiven before the patch*
    uuugh
    *discovers patch and downloads it*
    yes thank you i like this now

  • @TitaniumSubscriber
    @TitaniumSubscriber 6 років тому

    Congratz 90k subs

  • @nathanielward7241
    @nathanielward7241 6 років тому +3

    Hey MoLMF, I think the Washburn refinery is a bad place to test the Unforgiven due to loader enemies having extra resistance to physical damage, perhaps a side run through Thousand Cuts would also be good for physical type weapons.

    • @blahthebiste7924
      @blahthebiste7924 6 років тому +1

      But Jakobs are all about crits, which are far easier to get on loaders than bandits.

    • @nathanielward7241
      @nathanielward7241 6 років тому

      blahthebiste but loaders also have ridiculous resistances on those crits.

    • @blahthebiste7924
      @blahthebiste7924 6 років тому +1

      Crit resistance + damage resistance is still not enough to make the damage less than a non-crit, not even close.

    • @jacobkern2060
      @jacobkern2060 6 років тому +1

      Non-elemental weapons also deal comparatively more damage to compensate for those resistances.

    • @blahthebiste7924
      @blahthebiste7924 6 років тому

      Snipers are almost objectively more effective on Loaders simply due to how much easier it is to crit them. That said, if you can consistently headshot human enemies, even while they are moving or rolling or hiding behind cover, then we'll talk.

  • @legostarwarsthecompletesag4296
    @legostarwarsthecompletesag4296 6 років тому +1

    Man, I really wish there was a level cap during normal mode and true/ultimate vault hunter mode. Becuase I just want to play tvhm and fuck around with some fun weapons, uvhm doesnt allow that nearly as much. Plus it would let you play every dlc without being overleveled during tvhm and normal.

    • @ManofLowMoralFiber
      @ManofLowMoralFiber  6 років тому +1

      I honestly believe that normal mode should stop giving exp when a player hits level 30, and that TVHM should stop giving exp at level 50.
      That way, if for whatever reason, a player wants to stay at level or 30 or 50 forever, they are given that option.

    • @legostarwarsthecompletesag4296
      @legostarwarsthecompletesag4296 6 років тому

      Yeah, I feel the exact same way. Im glad you understand

  • @samkunde3408
    @samkunde3408 6 років тому

    Woulda been neat if they gave it an ADS effect where it homes in on crit spots like Nisha. The Unforgiven just feels boring for a pearl...

  • @CalebLegend
    @CalebLegend 6 років тому +5

    i think im speaking for everyone and say *NOW THATS ALLOT OF DAMAGE*

  • @Zer04887
    @Zer04887 9 місяців тому

    You can buff it yourself bye using zerO since he an increase critical hit damage and using a high fire rate class mod and a sheriff badge and using badass rank will help too if you done all those things its stupidly op not capping.

  • @enderborn9209
    @enderborn9209 6 років тому

    17:20 that was fucking hilarious

  • @dylanemert5952
    @dylanemert5952 6 років тому

    Did they remove the not to fast text cause it’s crappy fire rate was it’s specialty and just make the damage ridiculous

  • @therealdirtydan2677
    @therealdirtydan2677 6 років тому

    I know Sals broken, but duel wielding two of these is so much fun

  • @lordnul1708
    @lordnul1708 6 років тому

    Would you mind doing some Anarchy Gaige with the community patch? I would like to know what works best for it.

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 6 років тому

    Well... The Muckamuck may be a bit better but onthe other hand it's not a super significant difference and you get about three times the ammo capacity for pistols that you get for snipers. Apart from that you can boost pistols with the Sheriffs badge whereas you could only get a sniper agression relic for the Muckamuck which is completely random.

    • @daath912
      @daath912 6 років тому

      Darthplagueis13 you can boost the muck with ca.......

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 6 років тому

      That's with Zer0 specifically though.

  • @ChristheFlakkerGod
    @ChristheFlakkerGod 6 років тому +20

    The Unforgiven was always good. It's an almost-sniper with a much deeper ammo pool to draw from. Glad to see it was made even better, of course, but the notion that it was ever bad is just another example of some folks not understanding the bigger picture of the game.
    Put it in Maya's hands with Reaper/Subseq and you can clear a lot of mobs at once. If you don't suck at aiming, you can even use it with Sal and a Fist/Grog for insane critical hit chicanery.
    Also, your trip through Digi-Peak must have inspired this given your essentially perfect Unforgiven drop the first run.

    • @Caenen_LeagueTechnical
      @Caenen_LeagueTechnical 6 років тому +3

      For a moment I thought he used his 'perfect' Unforgiven from the run here, but I think that one had a Dahl scope, iirc. Still, he got a perfect Unforgiven there. Not what he was looking for, but still..heh!

    • @DumbOfAsh
      @DumbOfAsh 6 років тому +5

      The problem people have with it is that it's a pearlescent, one of the rarest weapons in the game and yet it's inferior to purple and even some blue weapons in terms of usefulness

    • @ChristheFlakkerGod
      @ChristheFlakkerGod 6 років тому +6

      Cancer-kun I think that can be attributed to thinking rarity is equal to power. It should make sense and I agree, but the fact there are blue uniques that exist as some of the best gear in the game (Twister, Sandhawk, Pimpernel, Lady Fist, Grog/Rubi to name a few) should have maybe broken players of the idea that rarity=power.
      I'm no better or worse than anyone else, mind you, but it's a trope in gaming that rare=power and in Borderlands, that isn't always true.

    • @ageidyne
      @ageidyne 6 років тому

      Chris the Flakker God Exactly how I see it.

    • @seenyab4494
      @seenyab4494 6 років тому

      But shouldn't rarity=power? After all a gun that is harder to acquire should be more rewarding.

  • @lilacocto9103
    @lilacocto9103 6 років тому +2

    Because the Unforgiven Failed at Being a Proper Hand Cannon in BL2 I Believe the Luck Cannon Was Created in BLTPS To Compensate for that

  • @drewmurphy7259
    @drewmurphy7259 Рік тому

    Yeah but you can get 3 acurate shots off with unforgiven too every one shot with most sniper rifles and thats low balling so overall you can do more damage

  • @jellyfish8007
    @jellyfish8007 5 років тому

    I always felt like this could be really good with a 2 fang heavy zero build

  • @parched_9570
    @parched_9570 6 років тому

    I remember you mentioning that you use a mod that makes only the highest level gear drop(as in only OP8 if you are OP8), what is that mod called?

  • @fusefire8200
    @fusefire8200 6 років тому

    Please do the judge pistol next it would be much appreciated

  • @messitup
    @messitup Рік тому

    Wouldn't Two Fer prefix work well on this wep?

  • @goldengibus6300
    @goldengibus6300 6 років тому

    Will you be playing other RPG's? like fallout 76 for example? really similar weapon generation.

  • @ageidyne
    @ageidyne 6 років тому +2

    Dude you hit 90k!

    • @TrickyRover
      @TrickyRover 6 років тому +1

      For a Borderlands youtuber, its something.

    • @TrickyRover
      @TrickyRover 6 років тому +1

      He's talking about the subscriber count, silly.

    • @TrickyRover
      @TrickyRover 6 років тому +1

      xD its ok, it happens to all of us lmao

  • @soldichapa
    @soldichapa 6 років тому +1

    Can you compare it to the maggie?

  • @jacobkern2060
    @jacobkern2060 6 років тому

    On the subject of slow Jakobs weapons, did the Rex get a buff?

  • @erenyeager6015
    @erenyeager6015 6 років тому

    Even with the patch, I still think I will keep using my Jakobs Iron instead

  • @Ne1vaan
    @Ne1vaan 6 років тому

    Glad to see this get done. It's definitely more of a zero weapon, as it still kicks like a bitch on characters without recoil mitigation. Should give binary a try.

  • @shay3789
    @shay3789 6 років тому +1

    I think a Stalker(?) COM might help it out, since if I'm remembering this right, it boosts pistol damage and fire rate. If I got the COM wrong, my apologies.
    Edit: fixed some grammer

  • @squintzrules7326
    @squintzrules7326 6 років тому

    I think the most impressive buff to this weapon is the new skin tbh

  • @TheFi3nd
    @TheFi3nd 3 роки тому

    It doesn't look like a normal purple rarity skin

  • @luke9153
    @luke9153 6 років тому

    Is the new skin not just a blue version of the Maggie?

  • @schmittywarbejagermenjense1047
    @schmittywarbejagermenjense1047 6 років тому +2

    Did the deliverance get buffed in the patch?

    • @zushi3493
      @zushi3493 6 років тому +1

      Yes, its damage was increased by 30%.

    • @ritzylupo353
      @ritzylupo353 6 років тому +1

      Schmitty Warbejagermenjensen it still sucks

  • @gabriel7932
    @gabriel7932 6 років тому

    Can you add more links t skip to the community patch version

  • @saLym-ym7wu
    @saLym-ym7wu 6 років тому

    how would you farm gemstone weapons with the community patch? is it still the horse in tiny tina dlc?

  • @AkelasanAK
    @AkelasanAK 6 років тому

    ...well, snipers should have more base dmg, but not more speed than revolvers ... and Muckamuck prob. is above average Jacobs sniper ...

  • @BasedCannon
    @BasedCannon 5 років тому

    I got one that shoots 2 shots per pull

  • @kuronaialtani
    @kuronaialtani 6 років тому +1

    How do you have a backpack of 100

    • @Arudis4x
      @Arudis4x 6 років тому +3

      VarkAndDjelyl github.com/c0dycode/Borderlands-Hex-Multitool. This tool allows the eridium backpack and bank mods.
      It works with the community PATCH. Skip the console with this tool if already running UCP.

    • @nachocheezdoritos3032
      @nachocheezdoritos3032 6 років тому

      Magic

  • @borislovothered8124
    @borislovothered8124 6 років тому

    maybe good on buff axton?

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 6 років тому

    the unforgiven? more like unforgivable.

  • @oCorrupts
    @oCorrupts 5 років тому

    Would be dope on maya

  • @TheGreatSatan_
    @TheGreatSatan_ 6 років тому

    I want to see if the Wanderlust is still crap

    • @andromeda530
      @andromeda530 6 років тому

      SatanPlays people say its good

  • @D00MED_27
    @D00MED_27 4 роки тому

    late question: what grenade is he using

    • @MrX-jy5uc
      @MrX-jy5uc Рік тому

      Incredibly late answer, longbow slag-O negative I believe

  • @HikariDesu
    @HikariDesu 6 років тому

    Ive been waiting for this lol

  • @marksubsky
    @marksubsky 6 років тому

    I feel that the maggie is still better.

  • @alexanderwise219
    @alexanderwise219 4 роки тому

    Is this patch only on pc?

    • @alexanderwise219
      @alexanderwise219 Рік тому

      Since no one else answered your question Alexander. Yes it is only for pc.

  • @teslaboy8706
    @teslaboy8706 6 років тому

    Does it STILL suck tho

  • @dominickbradley6689
    @dominickbradley6689 6 років тому

    Let's hope in bl3 they will not make this weapon return

    • @jacobkern2060
      @jacobkern2060 6 років тому

      Or it returns as the god gun it was in BL1.

  • @ryanwatson2121
    @ryanwatson2121 6 років тому

    Did anybody see pimpernel only 34 damage

    • @quinnholidy
      @quinnholidy 6 років тому +1

      yeahhe uses a low leaval one to slag enemies

    • @jacobkern2060
      @jacobkern2060 6 років тому

      He has a Level 1 Pimp to slag.

  • @dufreohr1180
    @dufreohr1180 6 років тому

    I never pay atention to firerate on a jacobs gun. Like
    BITCH ITS FAST AS YOU CAN PULL THE TRIGGER
    YOU KNOW THIS
    Y FIRERATE DIFFERENT ON TWO JACOBS GUNS?

  • @wolfyakuza
    @wolfyakuza 6 років тому

    Yrd

  • @ksmith011
    @ksmith011 6 років тому

    Noice

  • @llsld5808
    @llsld5808 6 років тому

    consume pot

  • @bushwack2742
    @bushwack2742 6 років тому

    I have noticed that you never did a "does it suck" on the unkempt harold

    • @Arudis4x
      @Arudis4x 6 років тому +8

      WuW spoiler: it doesn't suck.

    • @formerassassin
      @formerassassin 6 років тому +2

      The only thing that sucks about the Harold is the way people use it.

    • @bushwack2742
      @bushwack2742 6 років тому

      formerassassin yeah I agree, I only use it to bore Hyperios or bore the binary boss

    • @jacobkern2060
      @jacobkern2060 6 років тому

      The only thing that sucks about that gun is when people use it for characters it doesn't work well with.

    • @jacobkern2060
      @jacobkern2060 6 років тому

      WuW The Pimpernel's an incredible gun to B0re with, and the only one consistent enough to be able to B0re Saturn.

  • @officerearl3451
    @officerearl3451 6 років тому +1

    The unforgiving is bad