Hi thank you for the review. The only seller for this station on Aliexpress informed me that I only need one handle and it can manage different wattage and no need to buy 3 handles. This is a direct quote from the seller " Only one handle is required and will deliver the wattage with the different type of tips?" The handle iron advised was Y9150.
So the 130 and 150 watt handles appear to be the same, the 50 watt however is entirely different. I would not buy the 50 watt version unless you really need something low powered. I think the 130 watt is the ones to go for.
even original jbc station share the same principle, tip size will be the one responsible for power delivery, higher thermal mass will deliver more power, you cannot expect a conical tip to draw full power
Thanks for the review. I just ordered the tweezers and iron. If you need to solder bigger things try an American Beauty resistance soldering station. The one I have will output 1800w. Makes easy work of 8mm/10mm bullet connectors and even has tips for copper pipes.
Yes I have seen it, it is a resistance system right? It seems somewhat similar to a spot welder except that it outputs a constant current so it can melt the copper into what ever you are wanting to connect? However, at $500 plus I have been wondering if I could make something like that using an old microwave oven transformer. What voltage and current does it produce I wonder?
@@Tech-Relief yes, I think you could use a microwave transformer. The one I have has multiple outputs (I think just different voltages) it works with fairly low voltage i believe less then 10v and high amps. Making one would be a cool project. If you want i can check the exact voltage outputs. Let me know.
@@mattbentley8958 I am curious what voltage is used since if it has 1800W you would need 100 Amps at 18V. I have a microwave transformer from a 1200W microwave. An other question is if it uses AC or DC?
@@Tech-Relief The output is AC. It has 24 different voltage settings. The lowest is 1.2v and the highest is 6.9v (i read 7.3v with my multi meter no load). So 260amp. It says its 50% duty cycle. It can really heat up the 6 ga cables if you use it very long on full power.
Thanks for doing a review on this product, I wish more people would review it. Do you know if the tip on the tweezer can be adjusted and how small of a component it will be good for?
The tips of the tweezers do not need to be adjusted as such, but there are multiple different inserts available for the tweezers. The default insert is the 0.51 mm ones and they can handle most SMD components right down to the smallest. For larger components I have the 2.2 mm insert also, but the 0.51 mm ones are the ones I use 95% of the time. There are also inserts with larger tips shaped like blades which may be suitable for certain connectors etc. but I have not tried these myself. www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804222701170.html and www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804843678065.htm. All I know is I can't do without them anymore.
@@Tech-Relief I recently bought their hot air station the ST-862D two months ago and have been very impressed by it, so I wanted to give this brand a try with the hot tweezer. That is awesome, it seems like you are happy with the unit.
I am happy with the ATTEN soldering station, it certainly is a step up from the T12 DIY Stations I have. Although I use both. I use the ATTEN Station if I need the extra power or the tweezers. I plan to purchase a second station so I can have both the tweezers and a soldering iron going at the same time.
@@Tech-Relief Пинцет тоже регулируется, сразу оба наконечника. Но температура кончиков жал пинцета не совпадает более чем на 25-30 градусов. К примеру, левое - 230, правое - 256 градусов. Это не регулируется :( Я пробовал менять местами два маленьких мосфета, менял местами сами наконечники, покупал другой пинцет, но ситуация не меняется. Нужно изучать вопрос глубже, управление этими мосфетами. The tweezers are also adjustable, both tips at once. But the temperature of the tips of the stings of the tweezers does not match by more than 25-30 degrees. For example, left - 230, right - 256 degrees. It's not regulated :( I tried to swap two small mosfets, swap the tips themselves, buy another tweezers, but the situation does not change. We need to study the issue deeper, the anagement of these mosfets.
@@TheOpulaz Sorry about the delay, spring is a busy time for me. However, I presume you are talking about the hot tweezers? I tested mine with my soldering iron temperature tester and found that mine are not more than a few degree C different on the tips. I did notice however, that the temperature on the tester will vary depending on how fresh the solder on the test probe is, it shows less temperature after a short period of time when the solder oxidizes. If I put a little fresh leaded solder on the probe each time and test the temperature each tip seems very close in temperature. So I have not seen the problem you describe.
I recently bought a couple of inexpensive Schneider branded Harbor Freight soldering stations, apparently built by Atten, the analog dial unit cost only $45 US and the digital version, internally marked ST80, sold for $120 US. Standard 900 M or T900 tips, and I am wondering if heating elements or replacement irons are available. The Atten website shows nothing for parts and harbor freight doesn't sell parts either.
Well, I am not aware of Harborfreight's stations. I must have a look. however, in the past I bought a bunch of inserts from Atten direct by contacting their support direct. Also if you search AliExpress for Atten soldering irons in the past there were multiple stores selling them.
@@Tech-Relief, I've looked around Amazon and eBay and some of the purported replacement Atten soldering irons are selling for like 90 bucks (those might be for one of the newer models, a T12 handle or high-frequency model perhaps). The sellers rarely give you any specific Atten model numbers that a given heating element is compatible with either. I was an audio repair tech for 20 years and whenever my boss purchased solder or flux directly from China, most of it was poor quality or misrepresented by the seller (such as acidic fluxes, probably for plumbing, marketed to electronics hobbyists, but then it arrives and says "not for electronics" on the bottle); and then there were all the fake, counterfeit, rebranded or just plain defective IC's, Mosfets, CD drives and so on, so I'm generally not predisposed to buy directly from China. I'll probably contact Atten to ask who their authorized distributors are, rather than buying blind. They seem to be particularly popular in Australia and India, but there's not much of a presence in the US and they're not well-known here; they don't seem to have a US distributor, unlike Hakko and even Aoyue. I did find what are purported to be the correct part numbers for the irons and heaters, so perhaps that will be helpful. It's interesting that the $45 Harbor Freight unit has a GX16 7-pin aviation connector but the more expensive digital unit has an ordinary 5 pin DIN which I personally think is underrated for this type of use. Also, the cheaper unit has a metal-encapsulated heater (and slightly larger diameter) while the digital unit has the common, and slightly thinner, exposed ceramic heater. (The inner hole diameter of cheap tips varies tremendously, generally a sloppy fit, and so I intend to buy some genuine Hakko tips). I'll keep searching, and will post a review of the Harbor Freight ST80 when I have a chance. BTW, I used an Aoyue INT701A++ for 5 years at work, when our ancient Hakko units were dying and we couldn't get parts, and with a few tweaks and mods, the desoldering half worked surprisingly well; though the soldering wand was no great shakes......
@@Tech-Relief , Looking at online listings of Atten solder stations and their private-label versions, I discovered that Newark Electronics sells the same basic station, branded Multicomp Pro, for $40, and they have replacement irons called the AP-50 for $10.
I had a look at the Harborfreight website and the Soldering stations you mention are nothing like the ATTEN stations which are more of the professional type that have inserts that have the heating elements inside the tips. The ones I saw appear to have the standard old fashioned ceramic heating elements with a tubular soldering tip that slips over the heating element which are very common. Other than the pinout of the plug I suspect most that most of these types of soldering irons would be compatible? I recently reviewed a battery operated soldering station that had the same type of iron: ua-cam.com/video/XYMUyld8peQ/v-deo.html
@@Tech-Relief , yes, old-school T900 or 900M type tips, like the older or less expensive Hakko units ---- I'll buy some genuine Hakko tips for my HF units because the included tips are made of iron, and conical, which I hate. Of course, they're not professional grade units like you might have been expecting, because this is Harbor Freight we're talking about after all! BTW, the new entry-level Hakko FX888DX has a lousy user-interface for programming it, and they've changed it from using 900 tips to something else, T32 I think, which means that users of earlier Hakko units need to buy a new set of tips!
AI wonder for the way that st-1509 wake up. t12 based on ball type vibration switch which bother me to static soldering op it just take a sleep mode even im doing solder Could you leave me some reply how st-1509 take sleep mode? Does st-1509 have the same sensor?
I will be posting a Video building a Li-ion boost converter using a TPS61023 chip from TI and this one is so small I will have to use the smallest tip on the 50 Watt iron. I have not soldered such a small chip so it is going to be interesting.
@@emil8367 I just finished soldering the TI boost chip. It is 1.2 by 1.6 mm and has six pins. It was difficult but I managed (I think not tested yet) So this is like a tiny resistor but with six legs... Has to use the smallest needle sharp soldering tip I have... If you watch the upcoming video you will see.
@@Tech-Relief I asked because I broke a capacitor on Asus zenith 2 extreme alpha (TRX40 version). Asus won't help, due to confidential information (it's crazy but these are their policy, I didn't know that they have such crap !). Now post error always appear (means is not bootable at all). I'm afraid to do anything there to not damage it more 😀 I'm waiting for the video ofc. Useful knowledge. Many thanks.
@@emil8367 I see, well you need a suitable soldering station and a microscope to solder very small components. You will likely also need flux which helps to stop solder bridges etc. if pins or components are close together.
Thank you for the video! can you please measure the resistance between 7th pin of the connector for 130 watt soldering handle and other pins of this connector. I bought this station with tweezers and a vacuum pump handle for atten gt series station and trying to get it work with this station, but I can't understand the logic, by wich station detects what handle is inserted right now 12 or 24 volts...
Alright: Numbering the pins looking into the male plug, pin 1 is the left top according to the numbers in the plug. R = Ohm, Open means open circuit. With the tip plugged in: 1=2.3R, 2=0.3R, 3=5.2R, 4=0.3R, 5=Open, 6=Open, 8=Open, 9=5.5K. With the tip unplugged pin 1,2,and 9 are the same and all others are open circuit. Pin 1 counts down so probably there is some sort of circuit there. Hope this helps?
huge thanks! I have connected my handle according to your pinout and station recognized it, but after a short time e7 error appeared that's mean short circuit of thermo couple. I checked everything, but it didn't helped. So may be this my attempt was not such a great idea in general.
applying any resistance or ground to the pin 1 does nothing, pin 2- ground from handle,pin 4 is for thermocouple, 5 heater, 7 -ground, 9- handle detection resistance
but it's looks like another type of thermocouple is used for the gt-x150 suction handle, but may be the same type that is used in 150 w handle, because of the same wattage
Thanks for the video! I have one question, does the standby mode exit with handle Y9130 and handle Y950 work when you move the handle? It works fine with N9100, but it doesn't work with handle Y9130 and handle Y950. Thanks
Yes, for me they work flawlessly if I even knock them they turn on. However, keep in mind that there are two stages to this. There is a setting for the timeout to turn the heat off and this has to be set properly. Secondly, it first goes into an intermediate stand by mode where the heat turns back on when you pick up the handle. If however you do not touch it for a longer time the display will say STBY if I remember correctly and then it will only turn on if you press one of the buttons.
Update, I have mine set to 3 minutes to go to standby mode and after 3 minutes it displays St8 but after a longer delay not sure but perhaps 15 minutes it goes to sleep mode and then you have to press a button to wake it up.
Thanks a lot for the answer, it looks like I have a defective one and in STBY mode, when touching or moving the handle, it does not wake up. But the 9100 wakes up perfectly after touching. Have a good day! @Tech-Relief
the best video ever showing this soldering station
Hi thank you for the review. The only seller for this station on Aliexpress informed me that I only need one handle and it can manage different wattage and no need to buy 3 handles. This is a direct quote from the seller " Only one handle is required and will deliver the wattage with the different type of tips?" The handle iron advised was Y9150.
So the 130 and 150 watt handles appear to be the same, the 50 watt however is entirely different. I would not buy the 50 watt version unless you really need something low powered. I think the 130 watt is the ones to go for.
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even original jbc station share the same principle, tip size will be the one responsible for power delivery, higher thermal mass will deliver more power, you cannot expect a conical tip to draw full power
Good thing you did not cut anything out the video, it was very informative and helpful. Thank You!
Thanks for the review. I just ordered the tweezers and iron. If you need to solder bigger things try an American Beauty resistance soldering station. The one I have will output 1800w. Makes easy work of 8mm/10mm bullet connectors and even has tips for copper pipes.
Yes I have seen it, it is a resistance system right? It seems somewhat similar to a spot welder except that it outputs a constant current so it can melt the copper into what ever you are wanting to connect? However, at $500 plus I have been wondering if I could make something like that using an old microwave oven transformer. What voltage and current does it produce I wonder?
@@Tech-Relief yes, I think you could use a microwave transformer. The one I have has multiple outputs (I think just different voltages) it works with fairly low voltage i believe less then 10v and high amps. Making one would be a cool project. If you want i can check the exact voltage outputs. Let me know.
@@mattbentley8958 I am curious what voltage is used since if it has 1800W you would need 100 Amps at 18V. I have a microwave transformer from a 1200W microwave. An other question is if it uses AC or DC?
@@Tech-Relief The output is AC. It has 24 different voltage settings. The lowest is 1.2v and the highest is 6.9v (i read 7.3v with my multi meter no load). So 260amp. It says its 50% duty cycle. It can really heat up the 6 ga cables if you use it very long on full power.
Thanks for doing a review on this product, I wish more people would review it. Do you know if the tip on the tweezer can be adjusted and how small of a component it will be good for?
The tips of the tweezers do not need to be adjusted as such, but there are multiple different inserts available for the tweezers. The default insert is the 0.51 mm ones and they can handle most SMD components right down to the smallest. For larger components I have the 2.2 mm insert also, but the 0.51 mm ones are the ones I use 95% of the time. There are also inserts with larger tips shaped like blades which may be suitable for certain connectors etc. but I have not tried these myself. www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804222701170.html and www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804843678065.htm. All I know is I can't do without them anymore.
@@Tech-Relief I recently bought their hot air station the ST-862D two months ago and have been very impressed by it, so I wanted to give this brand a try with the hot tweezer. That is awesome, it seems like you are happy with the unit.
I am happy with the ATTEN soldering station, it certainly is a step up from the T12 DIY Stations I have. Although I use both. I use the ATTEN Station if I need the extra power or the tweezers. I plan to purchase a second station so I can have both the tweezers and a soldering iron going at the same time.
@@Tech-Relief Пинцет тоже регулируется, сразу оба наконечника. Но температура кончиков жал пинцета не совпадает более чем на 25-30 градусов. К примеру, левое - 230, правое - 256 градусов. Это не регулируется :(
Я пробовал менять местами два маленьких мосфета, менял местами сами наконечники, покупал другой пинцет, но ситуация не меняется. Нужно изучать вопрос глубже, управление этими мосфетами.
The tweezers are also adjustable, both tips at once. But the temperature of the tips of the stings of the tweezers does not match by more than 25-30 degrees. For example, left - 230, right - 256 degrees. It's not regulated :(
I tried to swap two small mosfets, swap the tips themselves, buy another tweezers, but the situation does not change. We need to study the issue deeper, the anagement of these mosfets.
@@TheOpulaz Sorry about the delay, spring is a busy time for me. However, I presume you are talking about the hot tweezers? I tested mine with my soldering iron temperature tester and found that mine are not more than a few degree C different on the tips. I did notice however, that the temperature on the tester will vary depending on how fresh the solder on the test probe is, it shows less temperature after a short period of time when the solder oxidizes. If I put a little fresh leaded solder on the probe each time and test the temperature each tip seems very close in temperature. So I have not seen the problem you describe.
I recently bought a couple of inexpensive Schneider branded Harbor Freight soldering stations, apparently built by Atten, the analog dial unit cost only $45 US and the digital version, internally marked ST80, sold for $120 US. Standard 900 M or T900 tips, and I am wondering if heating elements or replacement irons are available. The Atten website shows nothing for parts and harbor freight doesn't sell parts either.
Well, I am not aware of Harborfreight's stations. I must have a look. however, in the past I bought a bunch of inserts from Atten direct by contacting their support direct. Also if you search AliExpress for Atten soldering irons in the past there were multiple stores selling them.
@@Tech-Relief, I've looked around Amazon and eBay and some of the purported replacement Atten soldering irons are selling for like 90 bucks (those might be for one of the newer models, a T12 handle or high-frequency model perhaps). The sellers rarely give you any specific Atten model numbers that a given heating element is compatible with either. I was an audio repair tech for 20 years and whenever my boss purchased solder or flux directly from China, most of it was poor quality or misrepresented by the seller (such as acidic fluxes, probably for plumbing, marketed to electronics hobbyists, but then it arrives and says "not for electronics" on the bottle); and then there were all the fake, counterfeit, rebranded or just plain defective IC's, Mosfets, CD drives and so on, so I'm generally not predisposed to buy directly from China. I'll probably contact Atten to ask who their authorized distributors are, rather than buying blind. They seem to be particularly popular in Australia and India, but there's not much of a presence in the US and they're not well-known here; they don't seem to have a US distributor, unlike Hakko and even Aoyue. I did find what are purported to be the correct part numbers for the irons and heaters, so perhaps that will be helpful. It's interesting that the $45 Harbor Freight unit has a GX16 7-pin aviation connector but the more expensive digital unit has an ordinary 5 pin DIN which I personally think is underrated for this type of use. Also, the cheaper unit has a metal-encapsulated heater (and slightly larger diameter) while the digital unit has the common, and slightly thinner, exposed ceramic heater. (The inner hole diameter of cheap tips varies tremendously, generally a sloppy fit, and so I intend to buy some genuine Hakko tips). I'll keep searching, and will post a review of the Harbor Freight ST80 when I have a chance.
BTW, I used an Aoyue INT701A++ for 5 years at work, when our ancient Hakko units were dying and we couldn't get parts, and with a few tweaks and mods, the desoldering half worked surprisingly well; though the soldering wand was no great shakes......
@@Tech-Relief , Looking at online listings of Atten solder stations and their private-label versions, I discovered that Newark Electronics sells the same basic station, branded Multicomp Pro, for $40, and they have replacement irons called the AP-50 for $10.
I had a look at the Harborfreight website and the Soldering stations you mention are nothing like the ATTEN stations which are more of the professional type that have inserts that have the heating elements inside the tips. The ones I saw appear to have the standard old fashioned ceramic heating elements with a tubular soldering tip that slips over the heating element which are very common. Other than the pinout of the plug I suspect most that most of these types of soldering irons would be compatible? I recently reviewed a battery operated soldering station that had the same type of iron: ua-cam.com/video/XYMUyld8peQ/v-deo.html
@@Tech-Relief , yes, old-school T900 or 900M type tips, like the older or less expensive Hakko units ---- I'll buy some genuine Hakko tips for my HF units because the included tips are made of iron, and conical, which I hate. Of course, they're not professional grade units like you might have been expecting, because this is Harbor Freight we're talking about after all! BTW, the new entry-level Hakko FX888DX has a lousy user-interface for programming it, and they've changed it from using 900 tips to something else, T32 I think, which means that users of earlier Hakko units need to buy a new set of tips!
Благадарю за интересное видео.
AI wonder for the way that st-1509 wake up. t12 based on ball type vibration switch which bother me to static soldering op it just take a sleep mode even im doing solder
Could you leave me some reply how st-1509 take sleep mode? Does st-1509 have the same sensor?
I am not sure what type of sensor is used but the standby and wake up time is programmable and works perfectly for me.
@@Tech-Relief thanks for the answer :)
Un video muy interesante, no conocia esta marca Atten , gracias.
Thanks ! I'm curious how works thinner and more precise ATTEN tips on tiny SMD components still !
I will be posting a Video building a Li-ion boost converter using a TPS61023 chip from TI and this one is so small I will have to use the smallest tip on the 50 Watt iron. I have not soldered such a small chip so it is going to be interesting.
@@Tech-Relief Maybe some small capacitors (1-2mm) 🙂 ? Thx !
@@emil8367 I just finished soldering the TI boost chip. It is 1.2 by 1.6 mm and has six pins. It was difficult but I managed (I think not tested yet) So this is like a tiny resistor but with six legs... Has to use the smallest needle sharp soldering tip I have... If you watch the upcoming video you will see.
@@Tech-Relief I asked because I broke a capacitor on Asus zenith 2 extreme alpha (TRX40 version).
Asus won't help, due to confidential information (it's crazy but these are their policy, I didn't know that they have such crap !).
Now post error always appear (means is not bootable at all). I'm afraid to do anything there to not damage it more 😀
I'm waiting for the video ofc. Useful knowledge. Many thanks.
@@emil8367 I see, well you need a suitable soldering station and a microscope to solder very small components. You will likely also need flux which helps to stop solder bridges etc. if pins or components are close together.
Hi. Thanks a lot for the vídeo!
Than you for the review 🙂
Thank you for the video! can you please measure the resistance between 7th pin of the connector for 130 watt soldering handle and other pins of this connector. I bought this station with tweezers and a vacuum pump handle for atten gt series station and trying to get it work with this station, but I can't understand the logic, by wich station detects what handle is inserted right now 12 or 24 volts...
Alright: Numbering the pins looking into the male plug, pin 1 is the left top according to the numbers in the plug. R = Ohm, Open means open circuit. With the tip plugged in: 1=2.3R, 2=0.3R, 3=5.2R, 4=0.3R, 5=Open, 6=Open, 8=Open, 9=5.5K. With the tip unplugged pin 1,2,and 9 are the same and all others are open circuit. Pin 1 counts down so probably there is some sort of circuit there. Hope this helps?
huge thanks! I have connected my handle according to your pinout and station recognized it, but after a short time e7 error appeared that's mean short circuit of thermo couple. I checked everything, but it didn't helped.
So may be this my attempt was not such a great idea in general.
applying any resistance or ground to the pin 1 does nothing, pin 2- ground from handle,pin 4 is for thermocouple, 5 heater, 7 -ground, 9- handle detection resistance
I didn't notice that you have 150 w handle, does it has any difference in resistance of pins to 7th pin in comparison to 130w handle?
but it's looks like another type of thermocouple is used for the gt-x150 suction handle, but may be the same type that is used in 150 w handle, because of the same wattage
Thanks for the video! I have one question, does the standby mode exit with handle Y9130 and handle Y950 work when you move the handle? It works fine with N9100, but it doesn't work with handle Y9130 and handle Y950. Thanks
Yes, for me they work flawlessly if I even knock them they turn on. However, keep in mind that there are two stages to this. There is a setting for the timeout to turn the heat off and this has to be set properly. Secondly, it first goes into an intermediate stand by mode where the heat turns back on when you pick up the handle. If however you do not touch it for a longer time the display will say STBY if I remember correctly and then it will only turn on if you press one of the buttons.
Update, I have mine set to 3 minutes to go to standby mode and after 3 minutes it displays St8 but after a longer delay not sure but perhaps 15 minutes it goes to sleep mode and then you have to press a button to wake it up.
Thanks a lot for the answer, it looks like I have a defective one and in STBY mode, when touching or moving the handle, it does not wake up. But the 9100 wakes up perfectly after touching.
Have a good day! @Tech-Relief
I am getting an error E03 after the station slept and woke up..At the moment I can't recommend it.