If I am doing a dual action only process I will go large throw. Short throw I like after using a rotary to correct and then finesse before going to da to finishRotary is still the king for gloss most times
back in Dec, I picked up a 15mm Griot's and a Rupes 21mm. I can see where each can have its use. if I could only have one, I'd stick to my flex 3401. just my own personal preference. to each their own, I always say.
I have no plans to ever buy a Rupes. My Flex and PC combination can take care of anything I run into. If some paint really wants to be nasty, the rotary is quietly resting in my tool chest.
Great video! I have some Rupes tools, I found them used, and very, very reasonably priced. A couple Minis, and a couple Duettos. I use them with their pads and polishers, and I really like the system. That bring said, the Porter Cable 7424 and 7424xp can do everything I need. If I wasn't a "tool junky", I'd just use the 7424. I never have vibration issues, they're light, I can sand with them, compound, polish, wax... They're a great investment - specifically for the guy wanting to take care of his own vehicles. You can find them on Craigslist every once in a while for $50- $75.00, and they last forever. I had a Flex 3401, but I liked the PC more, and sold it.
***** - Absolutely, Junkman, I just picked up a really old 7424 - pre XP, and it performs just as nice as the XP I purchased new in 2011. You used it in the sanding video, where you removed the sanding marks with Meguiar's M01, and M02 on Orange Lake Country CCS pads. One of my favorite video series!
once again awesome fellas. And as Levi knows he answered my question. I use a small da for glaze and wax applications but now I have to go get me a long throw lol. Thanks again John@Carefree Auto Detailing
I love long throw polishers. I have Rupes 21 Mk2, 15 Mk2, Duetto and Mini. Next im gonna get rotary, extension bar's and small backing plates to work those super tight areas. I rather get full size rotary than ibrid. Im sure ibrid is great, but bit too expensive. Festool Shinex 150 or Flex PE 14-2 150? I think im going to get Festool :)
When talking about long throw polishers I guess I'm more curious about how you feel about 15 vs. 21 throws. Do you prefer using one over the other and why? What makes them smoother and easier to run and does that apply to both the 15 and 21 throws? Thanks guys!
I love the 15! Its the perfect size if your looking to buy only one polisher. I use the 21 more daily, but every time I use it I am quickly reminded of why its perfect.
The flex xc3401 is amazing. I use it almost everyday. I prefer the gear driven. Dont like the bog down of rupes. Been wondering about the long throw machines.
ImElkay Lol! Nah.... you're just observant. That's better than the folks who ask me a question on a video in which I say the answer about 20 times. Lord knows how I repeat things over and over again! :)
For those experienced enough to use one, I highly recommend it. It is my go to polisher for pretty much every job I start that has never has a correction done before.
I have a rotary polisher also the standard Porter-Cable which I think is a 8 mm throw. My question to you guys is is there a big difference between the 15 and 21 throw polishers. Just would like to have all the tools in my Arsenal eventually. LOL since I have the Porter-Cable should I just go straight to the 21mm? I am just doing family and friends cars. I am not in a business. thanks for any advice
hey I will answer for you ..seems as though with a 21 you are more likly to heat the paint and leave marring or holograms compared to 15 ... so my next one is going to be 15-19 .. my griots sucks compared to harbor freight ( HF is was more powerful)
Dear Junkman I assume you are my teacher in Detailing! But if you try deeply the FLEX XFE7-15 long throw polisher you will definitely come and change this episode and say how much is the long throw can be used.
Hello Guys ! Ed Here From São Paulo, SP, Brasil ! Strokes, Milimeters, Back Plates ... I "Suppose" That If I Use a 15 mm DA Polisher I Can Have a Slow But a Better Result as I'm, Like Junkman, a Weekend Warrior ! But My Question Is : Can I Us Different Sizes of Plates For a 15 mm DA Polisher ? I Already Know, I Mean, "I Guess" The Difference Among The Various Types Of Pads (For Cut, Polish, Wax) But It's Not Cristal Clear If I Can or If I Should Use a 5 or a 6" Pad ! That's It By Now Gentlemen ! Thank You Very Much ! Best Regards !
7:00 He’s right! 😅.. Last time he touched a rotary? Ummm... Your jobs are small then! 😅.. Get into color sanding, denibbing and take out runs.. We’ll see if you like dual action polishers.. 😅
I was thinking the same thing aslo... But it's great to have so many different opinions since there are so many different circumstances for each person. That's why I love these Detalks videos. You're not just listening to one opinion from one person.
Hello, sir.... please why NOONE thalks about the HEAT??? if you really using 21mm throw polisher your will have seen the heat matter that they provides. not so much with the 15mm but still excists
I purchased the Flex 22D long throw after all the great reviews it seemed to work well but for the money the durability was lacking. I would not recommend this machine because after only 21 vehicles it totally failed parts flew it out every where.
awesome video! Its great to hear the pros and cons from both serious hobbyists and professionals.
thanks guys!
Awesome you Guys. you answered a lot of questions on my part with the different throws..Thank you all so much. Excellent vid, Cris
thank u junkman brother u always give logical advice happy new year
Thank you sir and a very prosperous New Year to you also.
If I am doing a dual action only process I will go large throw. Short throw I like after using a rotary to correct and then finesse before going to da to finishRotary is still the king for gloss most times
So satisfying to watch this it's like listening to Samuel L Jackson
back in Dec, I picked up a 15mm Griot's and a Rupes 21mm. I can see where each can have its use. if I could only have one, I'd stick to my flex 3401. just my own personal preference. to each their own, I always say.
I have no plans to ever buy a Rupes. My Flex and PC combination can take care of anything I run into. If some paint really wants to be nasty, the rotary is quietly resting in my tool chest.
Lads ya have to have a look at the Makita Da !! Switchable forced rotation!! Absolutely incredible !!
Great video!
I have some Rupes tools, I found them used, and very, very reasonably priced. A couple Minis, and a couple Duettos. I use them with their pads and polishers, and I really like the system.
That bring said, the Porter Cable 7424 and 7424xp can do everything I need.
If I wasn't a "tool junky", I'd just use the 7424. I never have vibration issues, they're light, I can sand with them, compound, polish, wax... They're a great investment - specifically for the guy wanting to take care of his own vehicles. You can find them on Craigslist every once in a while for $50- $75.00, and they last forever.
I had a Flex 3401, but I liked the PC more, and sold it.
...and they last forever. I can vouch for that.
***** - Absolutely, Junkman, I just picked up a really old 7424 - pre XP, and it performs just as nice as the XP I purchased new in 2011.
You used it in the sanding video, where you removed the sanding marks with Meguiar's M01, and M02 on Orange Lake Country CCS pads. One of my favorite video series!
Yes, and I still have that polisher sitting in my polisher drawer. Nothing wrong with it at all.
***** - Maybe one of these days we'll see it again.
I don't know, the Griot's machine is pretty smooth.
Confirmation on what I need to purchase...Thanks Guys!
once again awesome fellas. And as Levi knows he answered my question. I use a small da for glaze and wax applications but now I have to go get me a long throw lol. Thanks again John@Carefree Auto Detailing
Great video. Good to hear the basic differences and how each have pros and cons.
Love the videos, keep them coming :D
Excellent video guys. Very informative. Thanks a lot.
i use it too rotary + finish with 15mm, i like it
I love long throw polishers. I have Rupes 21 Mk2, 15 Mk2, Duetto and Mini. Next im gonna get rotary, extension bar's and small backing plates to work those super tight areas. I rather get full size rotary than ibrid. Im sure ibrid is great, but bit too expensive. Festool Shinex 150 or Flex PE 14-2 150? I think im going to get Festool :)
jtm1979 I had a Flex PE14. I actually preferred the Makita!
The 9227c is a Makita polisher guys, not a DeWalt. Still both great rotary polishers.
When talking about long throw polishers I guess I'm more curious about how you feel about 15 vs. 21 throws. Do you prefer using one over the other and why? What makes them smoother and easier to run and does that apply to both the 15 and 21 throws? Thanks guys!
I love the 15! Its the perfect size if your looking to buy only one polisher. I use the 21 more daily, but every time I use it I am quickly reminded of why its perfect.
Master Of Shine so would you go with 21 over 15? If you only have one?
The flex xc3401 is amazing. I use it almost everyday. I prefer the gear driven. Dont like the bog down of rupes. Been wondering about the long throw machines.
Hey Junkman, unless the DeWalt and Makita have the same part numbers, the 9227c is a Makita rotary. :)
You are correct. I thought Brian was talking about the Makita. But I can make mistakes like that because I'm OLD. :P
Junkman2000 don't worry, you will always have punks on the Internet to correct you;)
ImElkay
Lol! Nah.... you're just observant. That's better than the folks who ask me a question on a video in which I say the answer about 20 times. Lord knows how I repeat things over and over again! :)
Cant stand stalling. Love my Flex 3401!
For those experienced enough to use one, I highly recommend it. It is my go to polisher for pretty much every job I start that has never has a correction done before.
Great video. Nice explanation of the polishers. FYI, rupes polishers are junk imo.
I like my 3401 over my Rupes 15 for cut...
That's because they are two different class of polishers with the Flex being far superior for cutting. Add to that, it cost LESS.
The cost is the best part.
BB Detailing
Yes sirreee. :)
I have a rotary polisher also the standard Porter-Cable which I think is a 8 mm throw. My question to you guys is is there a big difference between the 15 and 21 throw polishers. Just would like to have all the tools in my Arsenal eventually. LOL since I have the Porter-Cable should I just go straight to the 21mm? I am just doing family and friends cars. I am not in a business. thanks for any advice
hey I will answer for you ..seems as though with a 21 you are more likly to heat the paint and leave marring or holograms compared to 15 ... so my next one is going to be 15-19 .. my griots sucks compared to harbor freight ( HF is was more powerful)
Get good with the rotary and you won't need anything else.
Helpful. Thanks.
Dear Junkman I assume you are my teacher in Detailing! But if you try deeply the FLEX XFE7-15 long throw polisher you will definitely come and change this episode and say how much is the long throw can be used.
Hello Guys !
Ed Here From São Paulo, SP, Brasil !
Strokes, Milimeters, Back Plates ...
I "Suppose" That If I Use a 15 mm DA Polisher I Can Have a Slow But a Better Result as I'm, Like Junkman, a Weekend Warrior !
But My Question Is : Can I Us Different Sizes of Plates For a 15 mm DA Polisher ?
I Already Know, I Mean, "I Guess" The Difference Among The Various Types Of Pads (For Cut, Polish, Wax) But It's Not Cristal Clear If I Can or
If I Should Use a 5 or a 6" Pad !
That's It By Now Gentlemen !
Thank You Very Much !
Best Regards !
Is the basic Porter Cable considered short throw?
7:00 He’s right! 😅.. Last time he touched a rotary? Ummm... Your jobs are small then! 😅.. Get into color sanding, denibbing and take out runs.. We’ll see if you like dual action polishers.. 😅
Good info but people have a very short attention span. Would have been better to define long / short in the beginning then followed by the examples.
I rember Junkman detailing videos begore Larry Kosila. He is the man!! 🙂
After heavy cutting with 7 inch rotary, which DA would be more suitable for finishing 21 or 15 mm?
Sounds like he did some "training" with Levi alright.
Yvan is a rotary-guy isn't he? His opinions would have been a nice touch maybe messing up this discussion a bit? :)
I was thinking the same thing aslo... But it's great to have so many different opinions since there are so many different circumstances for each person. That's why I love these Detalks videos. You're not just listening to one opinion from one person.
so is the junkman from Louisville kentucky or..
The Rag Company that's cool I'm actually about to be up there,maybe I'll pass him
All day and all night long, 365 days a year. :)
Junkman2000 fellow louisvillian here. Im a mobile touch up, paint/ body repair vendor. Id love to get in touch!
Hello, sir.... please why NOONE thalks about the HEAT??? if you really using 21mm throw polisher your will have seen the heat matter that they provides. not so much with the 15mm but still excists
The Rag Company i am sorry sir maybe i didnt noticed, kind regards keep up the good work
I purchased the Flex 22D long throw after all the great reviews it seemed to work well but for the money the durability was lacking. I would not recommend this machine because after only 21 vehicles it totally failed parts flew it out every where.
22D is Tore. Different company and not Flex.
Torq