The fact that she told people the kids were happy and fine when we now know they were murdered and hidden on Chad's property is sooooo damning to me. There's no way she didn't know imo. No way for me to think she's innocent of any of it.
THERE is no way Chad at the very least did not give his permission to do these horrific crimes on his property! REMEMBER nothing gets by eagle eyed Chad, the conversation he had with Tammy when she was away visiting her family at allegedly his insistance! And told her he saw a possum on the backyard fence and shot it! These two are evil!
@@_ruraljuror_If Lori had given JJ to the grandparents or father then she would not still be able to collect social security for his care. That's one thing she was after.
I'm sure they didn't understand what was going on & couldn't understand why this was happening to them. Just before the end they probably wanted their mother.
@@kathleenmorrison8450 I agree. There was no way Lori was giving up that money. Thank God Charles Vallow changed the beneficiary on his life insurance. Before that Chad was telling people that Lori was "hot" and "loaded."
It is, especially knowing that her kids weren't even loved enough to be given humane deaths or proper burials. Imagine wrapping a little boy's head in duct tape and watching him suffocate. Disgusting monsters.
They all knew. They all knew those people they were “casting evil spirits” out of were going to die. Charles, Tammy, Tylee, JJ. One right after the other. That whole group is disgusting.
@@trailertrishMaybe, Give it some time? I don’t know. Zulema was probably let off for her testimony of it all. Melanie P however, she hasn’t seen her day in court yet, I hope!
Yes. Since it was testified to that Tylee and Lori has a typical up n down relationships, as is common with teenagers at her age , and sue to the added instability and trauma Lori exposed her to through her childhood, there may have been an argument where Tylee threaten to tell on Laurie, or refused to go along with further evil acts of Lori and Chad, and at that point, Lori decided to deal with Tylee, by deeming her to be a zombie. Maybe Tylee refused to allow Jaj to be harmed. So they had to get rid of her first.
You're thinking Lori believed Tylee was a normal, human, teenager. She believed Tylee was now a demon. Further Tylee was in extreme pain because she was outside her body.
I have a hard time with the assessment so many others be charged. The others were not plotting murder, they were slowly getting sucked into Religious, zealousness, once MG figured out what was going on see did this recording that is damming. She is innocent in my opinion.
Totally agree that others should be charged. Not saying Melanie specifically; but I think the majority enabled this to happen. While Melanie didn’t murder anyone, she certainly didn’t help those kids when she could’ve. She attested to the fact Chad received scratches from JJ and was at the house when it happened. Doing all this after the fact is just her covering her own backside. To say it’s not her fault she got caught up in a cult is frankly ridiculous….esp given she demonstrates here that she knows right from wrong, can think independently of the cult beliefs, etc. So she could’ve decided to go against this warped couple prior to the murders of the children; so aiding the prosecution and stuff at this point is still rather hollow in my opinion. This would never have happened or gone this far without the multitude of participation and enabling of others. The fact they were able to off their spouses given her prev husband saw it coming is inexcusable. She got away with way too much by too many people because she’s a pretty lady who talked about Jesus (nothing against Jesus…just the warped version that’s a deadly epidemic).
What exactly did Melanie do? Not tell? Remember Charles calling and begging the police to protect his children? And what happened to him and the children? So, if Melanie called the police what would have changed? I don't particularly care for her but saying she should be in jail makes no sense
That’s pretty damaging if she is asking her friend to lie about JJ whereabouts and she knew he was dead so she was trying to hide the crime. But as the saying goes you can run but you can’t hide.
When everyone claims Chad did all of this I call BS!!! This woman knew exactly how to “ Remove” a problem long before meeting Chad!!!! Let’s not be fooled! She knows what she’s doing and I don’t think this man had any casting over HER, If anything I feel she tricked him!! He’s a loopy bird however I think she made it worse!!
I just don’t understand how they thought they would get away with this. I also don’t understand how people can be so evil. Were they always this way or did they become like this? This case is so bizarre. I can’t imagine what the CSI, ME, & law enforcement ppl have been mentally enduring while investigating this case.
They had a conference which means theirs a whole lot of people that thinks the way Lori and Chad do, it’s scary to believe it’s more people like this in the world😢
They're equally whackadoodle but I doubt the other deranged God botherers are murdering their children and family members on this scale. There's crazy and then there's criminal.
I met a lady in 2009 or 2010 who was spreading all kinds of doomsday stuff and talked about the Call out. I came home and did research on it. A bunch of lies.
I’m really glad it’s off in this case, because people like this that are this deranged about fake religions etc. and are killing in the name of their religion, literally think that death is an honor and a reward for them, and it basically completes their whole martyr complex, not to mention they think that death will immediately give them whatever quackery next level life stuff their cult is into, so I’m glad she gets to suffer out the rest of her miserable pathetic life at the hands of many inmates and prison guards who cannot stand that kind of superior coy attitude much less the killing of innocent children. Trust me by not getting the death penalty, she’s going to get exactly what she deserves in there.
I want to hear Lori and Chad's explanation WHY Lori's kids were found buried in Chad's yard. I'm assuming they'll plead the fifth but I don't think I've seen anyone ask that question directly
I wish the death penalty was still on the table. Lori wouldn’t mind because she is a “translated” being. She doesn’t need eat or sleep. She can travel anywhere. So I think we should eliminate the expense of keeping her alive?
If Lori actually believed the garbage her and evil Chad were spewing out of their lying mouths they would both relize they had turned dark and they both were the Real Zombies! And the death penalty would be OK for them!
There are several other cells out there. If you follow their tracks from the beginning you will see they are not the first with these beliefs, they just got caught.
Chad convinced the Sharpe family to move from Connecticut to Rexburg to join Chad's cult as part of the 144,000. After the move, Chad told Mrs Sharpe that Mr Sharpe was going to die in a car accident caused by God, so that Mrs Sharpe could complete her predestined mission. The Sharpe's left the cult and Mrs Sharpe gave a statement to the police. Mr Sharpe is still alive but Mrs Sharpe seemed to still believe that she had been Lori's daughter in a previous life and the great granddaughter of Chad. Who knows where Lori and Chad would have stopped unless someone stopped them?
On Chad and Lori’s phone call when the police are about to dig up the kids, you can so tell that they each are very aware of the fact they are being recorded!! I’d like to know WHAT was in the house as that was Lori’s first concern. Or maybe she reversed psychology on us by focusing on the house so she could later claim she didn’t know anything about the kids being dead and buried on Chads property??
I don’t think Chad ever thought they would dig out there if not by the help from Psychic Donna Seraphina who tipped detectives when they contacted her for help. She saw what had happened to the kids 4 months before they were found. Charles family contacted her, JJ’s family did as well, and then a cop asked her 100+ questions to clarify and pin point the location, which Donna did. It’s all in her videos. Watch from 3 years ago the first one she did on Tylee.
the cop that testified said he had seen in chad dumbbell and Lori text messages something about a pet cematery& they asked one of his relatives who told them exactly where it was.
@@m_christine1070 Gosh, don’t let her read that. 😣She’s going live tomorrow. It’s truly sad how she hasn’t gotten any recognition for her work. I just hope Charles gets some justice later on, too.
@@grisg.4121 I will be tuning in. Just superficial characteristics like her hair, general facial structure, physique. I'm sure she's not anything like Lori Dingbell. I didn't intend for my opinion to be an insult; Lori WAS generally considered to be attractive. And now that I studied Donna's appearance for a few minutes, she is really infinitwly more attractive than Lori, imo.🧐🙂.
I have wondered if Alex grew a conscience and killed himself with something hard to detect. Otherwise his death is suspicious as the rest of them. You have TWO husbands death, his wife Tammy, the two kids and Alex. It just breaks my heart for Colby and the rest of the family not involved in their deaths. I've followed this for the whole time the kids were missing forward.
If i am not mistaken, was it not stated at first that Tammy was dead because of pulmonary embolism? ( later proved asphyxiation) and the same 'pulmonary embolism' was given as explanation of Alex's sudden death....
@@earthrooster1969 from what I understood lately , they both had symptoms ( red marks on the lips ) that could be due to malachite poisoning. That same malachite Lori looked for when purchasing her wedding ring .. I don't know if it could be proven but I m convince Alex Cox didn't died of natural causes. He probably unalive himself and his wife knows way more than she is admitting to.
@Paula, in that state the family has the right to refuse an autopsy. Chad told everyone Tammy had been sick, and they basically just took his word for it. Scary, huh?
@@nightwithoutstars9415 the idea of refusing an autopsy sounds so effed up to me especially for people that aren't in their twilight years. If you aren't old, it should be protocol to make sure that the truth in something as vital as a human death is shown.
I can not believe the death penalty is off the table due to a technicality, filing by the prosecution shame on them! This case screams death penalty all over it nothing will be justice. If it’s not the death penalty, it was made for cases like this the prosecutor should be fired.
Don't forget that the day that the graves of Lori's children Tylee & J.J. were being dug up (by law enforcement), Chad got a call from Lori (in jail). She asks him; "how is it going?" He said; "Detectives are here searching, they're getting warm."😮 The Detective said that while Chad sat in his car, he kept turning around to see what was going on in the back yard.
She reported that it was a paint gun - and everyone in the neighborhood thought it was this one local teen who had a habit of shooting his paint gun where he shouldn't. No one could have known at that time that Tammy died suspiciously. The Coroner was ordered to give the basic exam that all coroners do, which is very basic. Coroners have less education than Medical Examiners.
Well I believe after a long trip to Yellowstone National park, JJ was really tired and was put to bed, Lori drugged Tylee and murdered her, (remember she called Alex in the wee hours of the morning to come over), that's when he took Tylee's body to Chad's, ⚠️❗⚠️
I think they shot Tylee in the back first (Hence the raccoon story) and needed her gone before they drugged and killed JJ I suspect they may have, horrifyingly, taped him up and buried him while he was still alive 😢 a slow, silent death
Chad put JJ to bed and when he came downstairs, he had red marks on his neck. I wonder if they found Chad's DNA under JJ's nails😮. This was Melanie's testimony. Tylee was supposed to be at BYUI, but no mention if she lived on campus, at Lori's or off campus in an apartment. It smelled fishy from the beginning. Tylee was JJ's protector. She would have fought anyone off. Melanie said she stated at Lori's in Tylee's room and her boyfrienf😮
I wonder what life was like for the kids leading up to the Murders. Like was life normal or did they confide in anyone like a school counselor or neighborhood friends about the strange on goings in their lives and home.
@@denisekinzle1672 18:04 "I'll still get the $4,000 a month..." You may be combining Tylee's and JJ's benefits, but I was referring to the testimony of the Chandler, AZ detective.
Can you just imagine what this world will be like if Lori gets out of this? 😮 It will go on being as bad as it has been. She needs to be away from society.
Not one tear shed regarding her dead children or the gruesome way they died shows her guilt, without a court Case or jury...I would be running around pulling my hair out if it was my kids ...
how can a mom not notice that her kids are missing when they don't show up for breakfast? that is why I she knew they were dead, had it been me I'd be on the phone to the police to report my kids missing in a second. She invented the story that Tylee was at BYU Idaho and when the police checked, she was not there.
The call to her son Colby will get her convicted. Her laughing and gaslighting is obvious that her narcissism has not let her accept what she’s done to her family that loved and trusted her. And the password for Wi-Fi “2manykids” disgusting 🤢
These poor kids never had a chance. No adult in their lives protected them and the ones that would have, were kept away from them; being kept in the dark abt thier whereabouts and well being. Lori's a raging nutcase and Chad's absolute pure evil! ... RIP Tylee, Jayjay, Charles & Tammy 🙏♥️
I’m really worried about this case. As I remember, Casey Anthony lied and lied to the police regarding her missing child and Casey Anthony was found not guilty.
@Magic.Self.Revival Go into hiding? From who, from what? Casey Anthony isn't hiding..Before OJ went to prison, he wasn't in hiding. One thing the POS's do is lay low for a while after their trials, until things calm down and then they emerge, go on with their lives as though everything is normal. Remember OJ said he was going to hire investigators to find Nicole and Ron's killer? Total BS because he knows no one else killed Nichole and Ron. Casey Anthony had a tell all special dumping the death of her daughter on to her stepfather, as though we're gonna believe it? Who is she kidding? Her and OJ should go in to hiding, they don't deserve to take up the same space or breath the same air us decent human beings do. They simply aren't human. Lori, Alex, Chris, Jodi as well, all belong in the same toxic dumpster, separated from society. I bet they'd thoroughly enjoy each other's company, after all, they all have the same thing in common. Self absorbed, thirst for control without a compassionate, sympathetic bone in their bodies. Their names make me sick to my stomach.
Casey Anthony’s case is pretty different overall they overcharged the mother & had no cause of death which opened the door for reasonable doubt that Casey’s death could’ve been an accident like her mom claims🙄
Melanie Gibbs better be glad she came clean to the cops or she would be in big trouble too. She lied at first and then called the police back and told the truth. That’s the only reason she’s not caught up and going to jail too.
So disturbing. 28:13 grown men are squirming behind her as she giggles and smiles off whatever they’re being shown. One guy appears to not even be able to look up front - and yet she’s smirking and shrugging it off.
Every. Single. Time. They show that woman she is smiling, smirking and/or giggling. Makes me nauseous. Hopefully she stays behind the bars for her days left.
IKR? What a sad sack. Not exactly the grand poobah of a doomsday cult. That a loser. I'll bet he's crapping bricks in his cell right about now because the DP hasn't been taken off the table with him. I wonder if he thinks that Lori's nookie was worth it...
She was found guilty - unsurprisingly. Whether she did it personally or not she was in on it and just as complicit as the person who completed the evil deed.
This is such a horrible case. I couldn't image a mother or parent having something to do with their child or children's death or deaths. Throw away the key and keep her behind bars.
I've sat through several hours listening to Zulema testify on the stand, but wow that woman's voice eventually works on you. Her voice and the defence attorney's voice, they're a match made in heaven... or whatever she believes in...
Lori was so mad at Charles for changing his beneficiary. She wanted to hurt Kay. She couldn’t get rid of JJ and not Tylee because Tylee would know something is up if JJ went missing. So tragic.
There is ONE fact of this entire trial that literally seals the entire case. She literally pretended, telling everyone who asked about the kids, she told them "the kids were fine". That's it. There is no way she didn't know they were dead & buried in her new husband's pet cemetery.
Where were the Police during all this time between the murders?? Tammy got shot at and then, later dies… Lori’s husband Charles dies by shooting and it’s claimed it was in self defense. Did they really not think about the connection of all of the deaths!? You’ve even got CHARLES going to the Police before his death to beg them to see what’s taking place right before him, with all these people!! The right hand didn’t know what the left hand was doing?? I feel like the kids’ murders could have been prevented! Where was LE!!??
Grinds my gears that the kids would maybe still be alive if the cops hadn't tipped off Lori when he'd got a psych hold on her. He was on his way to the police department with the mental warrant, and the cop who was talking to her told her and she fled. That cop should've been held accountable. He has blood on his hands. Quite a bit of it.
I just can't believe this woman was a mother. No there was no demon inside JJ, Tylee, Charles, and Tammy. The only demons were inside Lori and Chad. It makes my blood boil to see her come into the courtroom with her hair done and her jail makeup ( that looks awful) and see her smiling and chatting like she's at a Cafe and not a courtroom for the murder of 4 human beings to of which were her children she supposed to have protected but committed the ultimate betrayal on them poor babies. To anyone reading this, if someone you know talks about demons being inside a family member, friend or person I would report things like that even if it turns out to be unfounded I would rather be safe than sorry.
ITS LIKE THE POLICE JUST THOUGHT OH WE CAN ARREEST THE MAIN TWO AND CHARGE THEM AND THAT WILL BE ENOUGH. WELL ITS NOT OTHERES WHERE CONSPIRITORS AND TAMMY WAS ON TRAMADOL IT WAS EASY FOR CHAD TO OVERDOSE HER THEN PUT A PILLOW OVER HER FACE, AND THAT LOW LIFE GOT HIS KIDS INVOLVED FOR HIS ALIBI HES DISGUSTING AND HIS KIDS SHOULD THINK OF THEIR POOR MUM AND LET HIM FACE THE FIRING SQUAD ALONE
I have a feeling their death was like a ritual with chanting and slicing blood etc! Since jj was tied up and Tylee was cut up into chunks and pieces! Absolutely disgusting and awful!!!! Justice for the children and all murdered!!!!!
I am telling you it was Tylee that hit Alex Cox with the bat. I saw the wound it was very low on the BACK of the head and in NO WAY devastating enough to have been inflicted by a huge guy. It looks much more like a smaller person hit Alex on the back of the head where he didnt see it coming and it was enough to split the skin because he couldnt parry it while using a firearm . I reckon Tylee hit Alex because she was frightened , freaked out and after she was forced in to the self defence story her cards were marked as soon as the life insurance was not getting paid to Lori. I think Tylee probably was just old enough and wise enough to get the dynamic of the crime going on and she was frightened but kept at bay with stories until she could be got rid of . All the adults here knew that the dead adults were murdered for gain and were fine and dandy with that until the kids were found dead and Tammy had her death certificate changed. Thats when the lower people in the group "distanced" themselves . Well they should ALL get jail time.
Melanie is waaaay too nice. If I found out that any of my friends or family told a lie to police that involved me…. Man I would call them up, cuss them out and work diligently with the police.
Who was Lori trying to keep, so called, 'safe' and from what or who? It's a mystery to me how these lovers who murder think they are going to be together ultimately. Both or one of them end up in prison, time and time again. So much for living happily together.
i think lori talked a lot about death to her young kids and that if it ever were to happen to them at any moment it will be a wonderful thing with god, probably didnt sit right with the older kid tylee. she was old enough to have the gift of fear when something just isnt quite right but not old enough to be able to do anything about it. lori and chad sensed her catching on and deemed her "dark". since younger jj was so attached to tylee, he was probably catching on too or following her lead. i really do not understand how someones brain can allow them to do this to ANYONE. but to their own child? not only that but to lose your child, childREN, and just go on like everything is fine and awesome? i really do not understand. how can someone so psychotic live among us and talk and live and act and look like us ...
WHY aren’t there any details regarding Loris discussion of wanting OUT of the court room? We, the public who have been following this for literal years would like vivid details regarding Lori rather than just the recorded hearing. We got working people here who won’t sit and listen to a recording of umpteen hours. Cover the good details PLEASE.
The sad part is the Justice system and every law enforcement agencies dropped the balls in these first deaths such as Charles's death, Chad's wife Tammy's death and Lori's brother 's desth.. The two children might be alive today!
@Leena Wexler Stop gaslighting! It was the individual police department duty to protect Charles and the other husband who unalived allegedly under suspicious circumstances.
The fact that she told people the kids were happy and fine when we now know they were murdered and hidden on Chad's property is sooooo damning to me. There's no way she didn't know imo. No way for me to think she's innocent of any of it.
I can't remember the exact timeline, but wasn't that just before she and Chad took off to Hawaii?
@George Layton I think so, or they were In Hawaii
the prosecutor will have to prove she knew.
THERE is no way Chad at the very least did not give his permission to do these horrific crimes on his property! REMEMBER nothing gets by eagle eyed Chad, the conversation he had with Tammy when she was away visiting her family at allegedly his insistance! And told her he saw a possum on the backyard fence and shot it! These two are evil!
Lorie stating they are safe and happy… that’s her belief of the afterlife…. A safe place of happiness… heaven!
That’s what I get!
I can't even imagine how terrified Tylee and JJ were before they were murdered. Heartbreaking.
@@_ruraljuror_If Lori had given JJ to the grandparents or father then she would not still be able to collect social security for his care. That's one thing she was after.
@@kathleenmorrison8450 true
Apparently, they got him drugged up before his murder
The children were passed out before burned and chopped yo death
Sick people
I'm sure they didn't understand what was going on & couldn't understand why this was happening to them. Just before the end they probably wanted their mother.
@@kathleenmorrison8450 I agree. There was no way Lori was giving up that money. Thank God Charles Vallow changed the beneficiary on his life insurance. Before that Chad was telling people that Lori was "hot" and "loaded."
I'm so enraged just watching her laughing during this trial. There are no words. 🤬🤬
It is, especially knowing that her kids weren't even loved enough to be given humane deaths or proper burials. Imagine wrapping a little boy's head in duct tape and watching him suffocate. Disgusting monsters.
Lori is so evil, but also very cunning, she made sure to not do any of the dirty work directly.
exactly. very Charles Manson esc.
But after a certain point her absence or distancing becomes suspicious and acts like a big red flag. She's not as smart as she thinks.
I really think this was all Chad's plan and she just went along with it
Master manipulator
@@olgatrilogymartin3143 most narcists are
Even her brothers death is suspicious
I think we all agree it was by lori and chads hands that he suddenly passed away the day after Tammy was exhumed.
Apparently Alex died of heart failure/clot, he had some physical problems the coroner says.....so there you go.....karma came.
@Lexie still suspicious ! 🤔
@@figgy7099 so suspicious right! Maybe a heart attack pill
Nahhh, she had him kill Tammy, he missed... so they killed him too.
This is insanity..only demon here sounds like it's Lori ..
They all knew. They all knew those people they were “casting evil spirits” out of were going to die. Charles, Tammy, Tylee, JJ. One right after the other.
That whole group is disgusting.
I’m so glad I seen your comment, I believe lives could of been saved. They had to see the signs
i hate that Mel P and Zulema arent also on trial. theyre absolutely involved.
@@trailertrish zulema testimony threw me off, but they had to see the signs. Lori wasn't shy about her so called powers
@@trailertrishMaybe, Give it some time? I don’t know. Zulema was probably let off for her testimony of it all. Melanie P however, she hasn’t seen her day in court yet, I hope!
I truly believe that Melanie Gibb could have notified police to save JJ and Tylee!!
I think Tylee was going to say something about the death of Charles. She knew what really happened.
Yes. Since it was testified to that Tylee and Lori has a typical up n down relationships, as is common with teenagers at her age , and sue to the added instability and trauma Lori exposed her to through her childhood, there may have been an argument where Tylee threaten to tell on Laurie, or refused to go along with further evil acts of Lori and Chad, and at that point, Lori decided to deal with Tylee, by deeming her to be a zombie. Maybe Tylee refused to allow Jaj to be harmed. So they had to get rid of her first.
You're thinking Lori believed Tylee was a normal, human, teenager. She believed Tylee was now a demon. Further Tylee was in extreme pain because she was outside her body.
@@tmarcia83 u r right so in Lori and Chads evil mind Tylee had to be gone to protect Chad and lori!
I agree. I think Lori had Tylee hit Alex on the back of his head with a baseball bat so they could say Charles hit him.
There is a video of Tylee testifying when Charles was killed and she really protects her mum on that video
Shame on the whole bunch, so many lies, so many more people need to be charged.🇨🇦
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Both Melanie's and Zulema need charges. They knew.. they believed that hog wash
I have a hard time with the assessment so many others be charged. The others were not plotting murder, they were slowly getting sucked into Religious, zealousness, once MG figured out what was going on see did this recording that is damming. She is innocent in my opinion.
Totally agree that others should be charged. Not saying Melanie specifically; but I think the majority enabled this to happen. While Melanie didn’t murder anyone, she certainly didn’t help those kids when she could’ve. She attested to the fact Chad received scratches from JJ and was at the house when it happened. Doing all this after the fact is just her covering her own backside. To say it’s not her fault she got caught up in a cult is frankly ridiculous….esp given she demonstrates here that she knows right from wrong, can think independently of the cult beliefs, etc. So she could’ve decided to go against this warped couple prior to the murders of the children; so aiding the prosecution and stuff at this point is still rather hollow in my opinion. This would never have happened or gone this far without the multitude of participation and enabling of others. The fact they were able to off their spouses given her prev husband saw it coming is inexcusable. She got away with way too much by too many people because she’s a pretty lady who talked about Jesus (nothing against Jesus…just the warped version that’s a deadly epidemic).
@@HellaQuinn so who do you think they should arrest and for what?
Seems Laurie is the one who has the evil spirit
They're all evil and they'd think you and me are zombies.
Her and Chad
The conversation with Melanie is a conviction. It’s her admitting to her crimes.
YES.
What exactly did Melanie do? Not tell? Remember Charles calling and begging the police to protect his children? And what happened to him and the children? So, if Melanie called the police what would have changed? I don't particularly care for her but saying she should be in jail makes no sense
@lynn jackson I think Mariss is saying *Lori* is admitting to her crimes.
@@lynnjackson8367 shes talking about Lori
@@lynnjackson8367 I think you've got the wrong end of the stick
I wonder if Tylee's dad was the first. He had a strange death.
I believe he was.
@@rissilient85 Probably not the first but definitely a victim of lori's tool, alex.
I think he is one of many...
What happened to him?
10000000% agree
That’s pretty damaging if she is asking her friend to lie about JJ whereabouts and she knew he was dead so she was trying to hide the crime. But as the saying goes you can run but you can’t hide.
No its not it simply means she didnt want anyone to know where he was or perhaps she didn't know where he was
When everyone claims Chad did all of this I call BS!!! This woman knew exactly how to “ Remove” a problem long before meeting Chad!!!! Let’s not be fooled! She knows what she’s doing and I don’t think this man had any casting over HER, If anything I feel she tricked him!! He’s a loopy bird however I think she made it worse!!
You are probably 100% right!
Agreed
They are both evil Narcs. And fed off each other!
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@@joannemurdock7899 or, is he? Or has Laurie created his personna?
I just don’t understand how they thought they would get away with this. I also don’t understand how people can be so evil. Were they always this way or did they become like this? This case is so bizarre. I can’t imagine what the CSI, ME, & law enforcement ppl have been mentally enduring while investigating this case.
These two very well may have gotten away with it if it had not been for the Woodcocks gut feelings and asking for the welfare check.
One word....Satan
They had a conference which means theirs a whole lot of people that thinks the way Lori and Chad do, it’s scary to believe it’s more people like this in the world😢
Totally.. it’s terrifying really..
I’ve been following this from the beginning. I think the Preparing a People Conference is for doomsday preppers
They're equally whackadoodle but I doubt the other deranged God botherers are murdering their children and family members on this scale. There's crazy and then there's criminal.
I met a lady in 2009 or 2010 who was spreading all kinds of doomsday stuff and talked about the Call out. I came home and did research on it. A bunch of lies.
@@kathduncan9618 History is littered with god botherers killing each other, other god botherers and everyone in between on a huge scale.
That "I'm better than everyone" look on her says a lot about her.
So sad the death penalty ELECTRIC CHAIR isn’t on the table, a shooting squad I’d settle for though
DP is off the table for Lori in this case.
I'm sure Larry & Kay Woodcock would volunteer to execute her themselves!
Hopefully the DP is on in Arizona
I’m really glad it’s off in this case, because people like this that are this deranged about fake religions etc. and are killing in the name of their religion, literally think that death is an honor and a reward for them, and it basically completes their whole martyr complex, not to mention they think that death will immediately give them whatever quackery next level life stuff their cult is into, so I’m glad she gets to suffer out the rest of her miserable pathetic life at the hands of many inmates and prison guards who cannot stand that kind of superior coy attitude much less the killing of innocent children. Trust me by not getting the death penalty, she’s going to get exactly what she deserves in there.
In Idaho, don't they execute with firing squad?
Lori innocent ? I DONT think anyone ever considered that for a minute ,I’m sure!
Not another Casey Anthony… 😳
@@magic.self.revival now that’s one shark that got away! Florida got that wrong
I want to hear Lori and Chad's explanation WHY Lori's kids were found buried in Chad's yard. I'm assuming they'll plead the fifth but I don't think I've seen anyone ask that question directly
@@toddpashak Oh good question, I'd like to know too. The sad part, is we may never never know.
@@toddpashak if only Alex were alive, the fall guy, I believe would of sang like a canary.
Melanie Gibb knew. She did nothing and said nothing. But enjoyed her notoriety.
shes as nuts as the rest of em
Exactly how I feel too🤬
I don’t think she was involved but she definitely didn’t report the crazy behavior of these people. I don’t quite get her.
She knows way more than she’s said.
Zulema too. There some pretty incriminating texts between her and Lori. They're all whack jobs.
I wish the death penalty was still on the table. Lori wouldn’t mind because she is a “translated” being. She doesn’t need eat or sleep. She can travel anywhere. So I think we should eliminate the expense of keeping her alive?
At least we don’t need to feed her. Since she doesn’t need to eat.
I’ve never truly been pro DP until this case.
I’m sure she is not worried she is just going to come back in a different life
absolutely agree! infotunately it's off the table in this case
If Lori actually believed the garbage her and evil Chad were spewing out of their lying mouths they would both relize they had turned dark and they both were the Real Zombies! And the death penalty would be OK for them!
I'm glad this dangerous cult got broken up before it got any bigger.
Let’s hope this trial broke them all up!! That and the end of the world didn’t happen in the day their “prophet” Chad said it would.
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 imagine the second coming is a dude named Chad omfg lol
Likely other splinter pods ready to awaken.
There are several other cells out there. If you follow their tracks from the beginning you will see they are not the first with these beliefs, they just got caught.
And it would have for sure!
Since they took the death penalty off the table, I hope she gets ample prison justice from some vicious inmates!
You can't make this stuff up. For God's sake, why did many people help orchestrated and help them out? Absolutely crazy.
It's amazing that ANYBODY in their circle survived
Five dead people between these two narcissists.
Chad convinced the Sharpe family to move from Connecticut to Rexburg to join Chad's cult as part of the 144,000. After the move, Chad told Mrs Sharpe that Mr Sharpe was going to die in a car accident caused by God, so that Mrs Sharpe could complete her predestined mission. The Sharpe's left the cult and Mrs Sharpe gave a statement to the police. Mr Sharpe is still alive but Mrs Sharpe seemed to still believe that she had been Lori's daughter in a previous life and the great granddaughter of Chad. Who knows where Lori and Chad would have stopped unless someone stopped them?
On Chad and Lori’s phone call when the police are about to dig up the kids, you can so tell that they each are very aware of the fact they are being recorded!! I’d like to know WHAT was in the house as that was Lori’s first concern. Or maybe she reversed psychology on us by focusing on the house so she could later claim she didn’t know anything about the kids being dead and buried on Chads property??
I don’t think Chad ever thought they would dig out there if not by the help from Psychic Donna Seraphina who tipped detectives when they contacted her for help. She saw what had happened to the kids 4 months before they were found. Charles family contacted her, JJ’s family did as well, and then a cop asked her 100+ questions to clarify and pin point the location, which Donna did. It’s all in her videos. Watch from 3 years ago the first one she did on Tylee.
the cop that testified said he had seen in chad dumbbell and Lori text messages something about a pet cematery& they asked one of his relatives who told them exactly where it was.
@@grisg.4121 This case gets more bizarre. And Donna Seraphina is a dead ringer for Lori!
@@m_christine1070 Gosh, don’t let her read that. 😣She’s going live tomorrow. It’s truly sad how she hasn’t gotten any recognition for her work. I just hope Charles gets some justice later on, too.
@@grisg.4121 I will be tuning in. Just superficial characteristics like her hair, general facial structure, physique. I'm sure she's not anything like Lori Dingbell. I didn't intend for my opinion to be an insult; Lori WAS generally considered to be attractive. And now that I studied Donna's appearance for a few minutes, she is really infinitwly more attractive than Lori, imo.🧐🙂.
2 murdered children buried on their property isn't just circumstantial evidence sir.
Who ever participated in those groups should all be held accountable to some degree. Sick people!!!!
The look in her eyes..makes the hair on my arms stand straight up..she is so evil..
Not to mention her smug, I know all, you know nothing, look on her face all the time.
That is a direct admission of guilt at 18:04 when she says, “ […] before we got rid of Ned […] “
your right!
Their sister died at 31 undetermined death.DidvAlex kill her in 1998????
Poor kids, they didn't ever diserve this 😮
Win a dream date with Chad. Seems to be a bad reason to kill so many people.
Chad needs a to have a dream hot date with ole Smokey.
Ick! He is hideous
Tammy was a Zombie, Lori wanted her gone, Tammy dies when only Chad was with her
I have wondered if Alex grew a conscience and killed himself with something hard to detect. Otherwise his death is suspicious as the rest of them. You have TWO husbands death, his wife Tammy, the two kids and Alex. It just breaks my heart for Colby and the rest of the family not involved in their deaths. I've followed this for the whole time the kids were missing forward.
If i am not mistaken, was it not stated at first that Tammy was dead because of pulmonary embolism? ( later proved asphyxiation) and the same 'pulmonary embolism' was given as explanation of Alex's sudden death....
@Suhita Mitra I thought I read he died of high pb and blood cot but really weird
Don’t forget Joseph Ryan, Tylee’s dad
I believe he is Lori’s first victim
@@earthrooster1969 from what I understood lately , they both had symptoms ( red marks on the lips ) that could be due to malachite poisoning. That same malachite Lori looked for when purchasing her wedding ring ..
I don't know if it could be proven but I m convince Alex Cox didn't died of natural causes. He probably unalive himself and his wife knows way more than she is admitting to.
@@Hannah-201 yup...same thing I believe..blood clot in artery is called pulmonary embolism...!!
How did they miss how Tammi died in the first place ? I mean its was 2019 not 1950's . What was going on with that ?
@Paula, in that state the family has the right to refuse an autopsy. Chad told everyone Tammy had been sick, and they basically just took his word for it. Scary, huh?
She probably hasn't gotten it in the arese yet but then maybe she has from big Bertha hahaha hahaha 🤣🤣😁😁
@@nightwithoutstars9415 the idea of refusing an autopsy sounds so effed up to me especially for people that aren't in their twilight years. If you aren't old, it should be protocol to make sure that the truth in something as vital as a human death is shown.
I can not believe the death penalty is off the table due to a technicality, filing by the prosecution shame on them! This case screams death penalty all over it nothing will be justice. If it’s not the death penalty, it was made for cases like this the prosecutor should be fired.
Don't forget that the day that the graves of Lori's children Tylee & J.J. were being dug up (by law enforcement), Chad got a call from Lori (in jail). She asks him; "how is it going?" He said; "Detectives are here searching, they're getting warm."😮 The Detective said that while Chad sat in his car, he kept turning around to see what was going on in the back yard.
Where did you hear this? I’d like to hear it.
I’ve heard the call on several platforms. This was not mentioned.
No he did not say, 'They're getting warm'. 🙄
@@sheslikethewind8999 i heard the call and I didn’t hear that at all ! FYI
@@franceshaypenny8481 righttt ! This person talking nonsense
Wow how did no one ever think the kids maybe in danger with all of this going on around this???
I know😞
Lori seems to get whatever she wants 😠😡
Yeah but not this time. She's not going to be happy with what she gets from now on.
She might have if she didn’t kill her kids.
@@LCx829 I was thinking the same. If they didn't kill the kids they prob would of gotten away w it all
hope she wanted prison👍
Someone shot at that woman and they initially ruled her death as natural causes. That is just unacceptable.
She reported that it was a paint gun - and everyone in the neighborhood thought it was this one local teen who had a habit of shooting his paint gun where he shouldn't. No one could have known at that time that Tammy died suspiciously. The Coroner was ordered to give the basic exam that all coroners do, which is very basic. Coroners have less education than Medical Examiners.
She wasn’t shot !!!!!
Well I believe after a long trip to Yellowstone National park, JJ was really tired and was put to bed, Lori drugged Tylee and murdered her, (remember she called Alex in the wee hours of the morning to come over), that's when he took Tylee's body to Chad's, ⚠️❗⚠️
I think so too. I'm waiting to see if there's any cellphone data evidence, ie texts or calls between the three for that night.
I think they shot Tylee in the back first (Hence the raccoon story) and needed her gone before they drugged and killed JJ
I suspect they may have, horrifyingly, taped him up and buried him while he was still alive 😢 a slow, silent death
Alex couldn't manage Tylee's weight alone with her sleeping. I believe Chad and Alex murdered Tylee and JJ.
Chad put JJ to bed and when he came downstairs, he had red marks on his neck. I wonder if they found Chad's DNA under JJ's nails😮. This was Melanie's testimony.
Tylee was supposed to be at BYUI, but no mention if she lived on campus, at Lori's or off campus in an apartment. It smelled fishy from the beginning. Tylee was JJ's protector. She would have fought anyone off. Melanie said she stated at Lori's in Tylee's room and her boyfrienf😮
Boyfriend David stayed in JJ's room. Weird
I wonder what life was like for the kids leading up to the Murders. Like was life normal or did they confide in anyone like a school counselor or neighborhood friends about the strange on goings in their lives and home.
They had not been in Rexburg very long for Tylee to make friends.
$4,000 per month from S.S. wasn't enough!?
$6000
@@denisekinzle1672 18:04 "I'll still get the $4,000 a month..."
You may be combining Tylee's and JJ's benefits, but I was referring to the testimony of the Chandler, AZ detective.
Yes because both of their fathers were dead. Lori is also greedy.
Can you just imagine what this world will be like if Lori gets out of this? 😮 It will go on being as bad as it has been. She needs to be away from society.
Q: what do you get when you cross a zoo with a dilemma?
A: A Zulema!
😂
OMG! Hahahaha!
😅
Some with guilt written all over her face.
Not one tear shed regarding her dead children or the gruesome way they died shows her guilt, without a court Case or jury...I would be running around pulling my hair out if it was my kids ...
how can a mom not notice that her kids are missing when they don't show up for breakfast? that is why I she knew they were dead, had it been me I'd be on the phone to the police to report my kids missing in a second. She invented the story that Tylee was at BYU Idaho and when the police checked, she was not there.
The call to her son Colby will get her convicted. Her laughing and gaslighting is obvious that her narcissism has not let her accept what she’s done to her family that loved and trusted her.
And the password for Wi-Fi “2manykids” disgusting 🤢
These poor kids never had a chance. No adult in their lives protected them and the ones that would have, were kept away from them; being kept in the dark abt thier whereabouts and well being. Lori's a raging nutcase and Chad's absolute pure evil! ... RIP Tylee, Jayjay, Charles & Tammy 🙏♥️
I’m really worried about this case. As I remember, Casey Anthony lied and lied to the police regarding her missing child and Casey Anthony was found not guilty.
I’m thinking the same thing. Can you imagine if she was found not guilty. She’d have to go in hiding.
@Magic.Self.Revival
Go into hiding? From who, from what?
Casey Anthony isn't hiding..Before OJ went to prison, he wasn't in hiding.
One thing the POS's do is lay low for a while after their trials, until things calm down and then they emerge, go on with their lives as though everything is normal.
Remember OJ said he was going to hire investigators to find Nicole and Ron's killer?
Total BS because he knows no one else killed Nichole and Ron.
Casey Anthony had a tell all special dumping the death of her daughter on to her stepfather, as though we're gonna believe it?
Who is she kidding?
Her and OJ should go in to hiding, they don't deserve to take up the same space or breath the same air us decent human beings do.
They simply aren't human.
Lori, Alex, Chris, Jodi as well, all belong in the same toxic dumpster, separated from society.
I bet they'd thoroughly enjoy each other's company, after all, they all have the same thing in common. Self absorbed, thirst for control without a compassionate, sympathetic bone in their bodies.
Their names make me sick to my stomach.
Casey Anthony’s case is pretty different overall they overcharged the mother & had no cause of death which opened the door for reasonable doubt that Casey’s death could’ve been an accident like her mom claims🙄
They had very little in her case compared to this case. Also you don’t go for the death penalty on a circumstantial case.
@@Julie6795 you are absolutely right. They overcharged her death. It was hrs for the jurors l. Thank you!
Melanie Gibbs better be glad she came clean to the cops or she would be in big trouble too. She lied at first and then called the police back and told the truth. That’s the only reason she’s not caught up and going to jail too.
So disturbing. 28:13 grown men are squirming behind her as she giggles and smiles off whatever they’re being shown. One guy appears to not even be able to look up front - and yet she’s smirking and shrugging it off.
Every. Single. Time. They show that woman she is smiling, smirking and/or giggling. Makes me nauseous. Hopefully she stays behind the bars for her days left.
I don't see her having any remorse infact she smiling what a truly wicked person ,hope she rots in prison.
When Lori calls Chad during the search of the property, Chad does his best imitation of Eyore ever
IKR? What a sad sack. Not exactly the grand poobah of a doomsday cult. That a loser. I'll bet he's crapping bricks in his cell right about now because the DP hasn't been taken off the table with him. I wonder if he thinks that Lori's nookie was worth it...
She was found guilty - unsurprisingly.
Whether she did it personally or not she was in on it and just as complicit as the person who completed the evil deed.
This is such a horrible case. I couldn't image a mother or parent having something to do with their child or children's death or deaths. Throw away the key and keep her behind bars.
I wish they would throw tape over he face for as much as she's smiling. It's sickening.
I've sat through several hours listening to Zulema testify on the stand, but wow that woman's voice eventually works on you. Her voice and the defence attorney's voice, they're a match made in heaven... or whatever she believes in...
It's not the voice, it's the "um"s. But you are so right. I am leary of 'sweet' voicing.
@@ldolan4051 I don't know if you watch Family Guy at all, but she sounds like Joe's wife, Bonnie. 😂
I wanna see an interview with Lori’s mom and sister who believed her and the fact that her kids were okay. So sad what happened!
I seen it. It was true at that time.
Yes!! I want them to do a follow up! They stood by her side relentlessly insisting she would never hurt her kids.
When a best friend can become key witness against you. This is a case of feelings, circumstantial evidence, and hearsay.
Lori was so mad at Charles for changing his beneficiary. She wanted to hurt Kay. She couldn’t get rid of JJ and not Tylee because Tylee would know something is up if JJ went missing. So tragic.
They all sound like kids.
There is ONE fact of this entire trial that literally seals the entire case. She literally pretended, telling everyone who asked about the kids, she told them "the kids were fine". That's it. There is no way she didn't know they were dead & buried in her new husband's pet cemetery.
Why did they take the death penalty off the table ????
Justice is mandatory!
“He’s safe. & happy!”….. I hope so. Poor kids
I heard that you have to pay for the audio on this case.
What is the reason that there aren't any cameras in the courtroom?
Yes supposedly $60 for each da. LV didn’t want cameras and MSM fought for audio
The judge ruled, no cameras
Where were the Police during all this time between the murders?? Tammy got shot at and then, later dies… Lori’s husband Charles dies by shooting and it’s claimed it was in self defense. Did they really not think about the connection of all of the deaths!? You’ve even got CHARLES going to the Police before his death to beg them to see what’s taking place right before him, with all these people!! The right hand didn’t know what the left hand was doing?? I feel like the kids’ murders could have been prevented! Where was LE!!??
Yes and also the attempted murder of Brandon.
Grinds my gears that the kids would maybe still be alive if the cops hadn't tipped off Lori when he'd got a psych hold on her. He was on his way to the police department with the mental warrant, and the cop who was talking to her told her and she fled.
That cop should've been held accountable. He has blood on his hands. Quite a bit of it.
It definitely could have been prevented 😭
The police didn't believe him at all, total failure on their part
I just don’t understand why it takes this long to get through her being prosecuted and sentenced!
You know why
I just can't believe this woman was a mother. No there was no demon inside JJ, Tylee, Charles, and Tammy. The only demons were inside Lori and Chad. It makes my blood boil to see her come into the courtroom with her hair done and her jail makeup ( that looks awful) and see her smiling and chatting like she's at a Cafe and not a courtroom for the murder of 4 human beings to of which were her children she supposed to have protected but committed the ultimate betrayal on them poor babies.
To anyone reading this, if someone you know talks about demons being inside a family member, friend or person I would report things like that even if it turns out to be unfounded I would rather be safe than sorry.
I swear i don't know how these two close their eyes to sleep at night.
ITS LIKE THE POLICE JUST THOUGHT OH WE CAN ARREEST THE MAIN TWO AND CHARGE THEM AND THAT WILL BE ENOUGH. WELL ITS NOT OTHERES WHERE CONSPIRITORS AND TAMMY WAS ON TRAMADOL IT WAS EASY FOR CHAD TO OVERDOSE HER THEN PUT A PILLOW OVER HER FACE, AND THAT LOW LIFE GOT HIS KIDS INVOLVED FOR HIS ALIBI HES DISGUSTING AND HIS KIDS SHOULD THINK OF THEIR POOR MUM AND LET HIM FACE THE FIRING SQUAD ALONE
All caps are a huge no no. Knock it off
I think the texts between Alex and Lori were most disturbing when Alex set her new Wi-Fi password to 2manykids and she responded “funny”
Any normal parent would be going crazy that they haven’t seen their children…that’s how you know
I have a feeling their death was like a ritual with chanting and slicing blood etc! Since jj was tied up and Tylee was cut up into chunks and pieces! Absolutely disgusting and awful!!!! Justice for the children and all murdered!!!!!
Yeah just horrific
The old "I did everything the Lord told me to do". Works for everything.
Well done Jesse
did they do an autopsy on alex cox? an in-depth autopsy checking for suspicious causes of death?
They are the most narcissistic people I’ve seen. Sitting there smiling :/
It wasn't all of a sudden... because no one was Killed until
They started cheating! Shame on them!
I hate that I also have brothers named adam and alex. Sharing anything with that psychopath ugh
i have cousins named Adam and Alex. 😳
Why would family and friends not question things earlier? Just wondering. Very respectful question.
I am telling you it was Tylee that hit Alex Cox with the bat. I saw the wound it was very low on the BACK of the head and in NO WAY devastating enough to have been inflicted by a huge guy. It looks much more like a smaller person hit Alex on the back of the head where he didnt see it coming and it was enough to split the skin because he couldnt parry it while using a firearm . I reckon Tylee hit Alex because she was frightened , freaked out and after she was forced in to the self defence story her cards were marked as soon as the life insurance was not getting paid to Lori. I think Tylee probably was just old enough and wise enough to get the dynamic of the crime going on and she was frightened but kept at bay with stories until she could be got rid of . All the adults here knew that the dead adults were murdered for gain and were fine and dandy with that until the kids were found dead and Tammy had her death certificate changed. Thats when the lower people in the group "distanced" themselves . Well they should ALL get jail time.
I don't hear any reasonable doubt so far....
I will say I’m curious what Laurie and Chad’s thoughts are now that the world did not end on their projected date
They never said whether or not the kids actually got invaded by an evil spirit. Does anyone know?
Melanie is waaaay too nice. If I found out that any of my friends or family told a lie to police that involved me….
Man I would call them up, cuss them out and work diligently with the police.
Even if there were no bodies and no evidence she would still be guilty because of our actions and her refusal to list the children as missing
Why would you will your biological child just for a man! That’s disgusting and beyond evil!
Who was Lori trying to keep, so called, 'safe' and from what or who? It's a mystery to me how these lovers who murder think they are going to be together ultimately. Both or one of them end up in prison, time and time again. So much for living happily together.
Ever notice that Lori ALWAYS says, "You KNOW me!" to try and get the other person to feel badly. Ugh. Gross. She said that to Summer as well.
To say “he gave nothing to JJ” is not true. Giving the money to Kay is a good way to keep the money safe for JJ.
i think lori talked a lot about death to her young kids and that if it ever were to happen to them at any moment it will be a wonderful thing with god, probably didnt sit right with the older kid tylee. she was old enough to have the gift of fear when something just isnt quite right but not old enough to be able to do anything about it. lori and chad sensed her catching on and deemed her "dark". since younger jj was so attached to tylee, he was probably catching on too or following her lead. i really do not understand how someones brain can allow them to do this to ANYONE. but to their own child? not only that but to lose your child, childREN, and just go on like everything is fine and awesome? i really do not understand. how can someone so psychotic live among us and talk and live and act and look like us ...
WHY aren’t there any details regarding Loris discussion of wanting OUT of the court room? We, the public who have been following this for literal years would like vivid details regarding Lori rather than just the recorded hearing. We got working people here who won’t sit and listen to a recording of umpteen hours. Cover the good details PLEASE.
"Before we got rid of him...." loris text to chad after charles is killed. Wow
Her smiling face fills me with so much hatred and an intense desire to see justice done.
The sad part is the Justice system and every law enforcement agencies dropped the balls in these first deaths such as Charles's death, Chad's wife Tammy's death and Lori's brother 's desth.. The two children might be alive today!
@Leena Wexler Stop gaslighting! It was the individual police department duty to protect Charles and the other husband who unalived allegedly under suspicious circumstances.
Life insurance is sooooo mad if they paid out. 🤣🤣
This is just wild the fact that so many people are in this is wild how many people are this insane
More than you know. Not just LDS break away groups.