@@Adele-b4r Emma never asked why are the police here, why are they digging in the yarn etc.... nothing! She knew horrific things but followed her dads lead and talked finances ? Still insists dad innocent ??? CREEPY! Will justify anything !
Chad should also be charged with Charles murder, because it was him that marked him as dark. Also, he knew about the attempted murder of Brandon Boudreaux. He helped put the seat and tire in the storage unit. He should be charged the same as Lori in the all the deaths, in my opinion.
I totally agree with you, also remember he called the funeral home concerning Charles acting like he was making the arrangements and if you listen to the recording at one point Chad is laughing. So in my opinion at the least it's a conspiracy to commit a crime.
He just wanted those kids out of his way, profit from the deaths, and keep his own kids worshipping him. I can't believe that woman let him manipulate her to the point of murdering her own children. Absolutely disgusting. He deserves the needle.
@@Juhani139 I agree, she is crazy, even thought Alex was the hit man I think he truly believed that it was god's will, Chad knew what he was doing, he fed them the kool aid and they both drank it. Chad had a plan and they just followed his orders, he is the worse of them all
The sad part is that Charles would have taken them both, Colby would have taken them both. Even her mom and sister, they used to defend her so much at the beginning, that I’m sure they would have found a way to defend her “reputation” while taking the kids. She had choices, but was selfish.
This is the problem with teaching religion to children. It’s so easy to brainwash them into believing anything and using the religion as a justification for committing first degree felonies. I have always felt that religion is evil and a very dangerous practice….any religion.
Smh was shock to learn Tammy knew about the scale not sure if she knew people were going to die becuz of it I think that evolved for Chad and Lori sake to remove the obstacles and gain money from the death
I find it hard to believe Tammy believed in dark/light demons same as Chad and Lori. More like, maybe just not as spiritually inclined as Chad thought they should be. That would apply to almost all young children. These people are dangerous. Emma and Garth are questionable in my mind. I have no doubt they will lie under oath e for thief father. How very sad!
I hope the jurors will not dispute that he is just as responsible as Lori is....but sometimes justice doesn't prevail...hope it's not another Casey Anthony circus.
The Casey Anthony jury was painfully incompetent. There was more than enough circumstantial evidence to convict her. Only Florida could churn out a jury that inept.
@@annhenry3135 What do Chad's brainwashed sons and daughters have to do with him murdering their mother? Besides, patriarchy doesn't encourage rebellion against one's father and cults do not allow disobedience of the leader - and the Daybell family was based on both.
What’s really sad about JJ, to me, is that there are people available who would have eagerly taken him off of Lori’s hands. They did not have to kill him, to free Lori of the burden of dealing with him.
he wont. if lori was convicted i have no doubt they jury will put 2 and 2 together and get him as well. he really has no defense..dont forget he's on the hook for Tammys murder as well. too many bodies on his watch @@alicemorton9145
I'm just glad you're ok. They are murderous people without remorse and regret. One of the first things Chad Daybell worries about in the back of the cop car is “the neighbors”- not his stepchildren’s remains in his backyard. So they were paying attention to the neighbors making sure no one saw anything. Stay vigilant until the lawyer moves in.
they had to have known. no o n e is THAT oblivious. shes a school teacher and it really baffles me how she never once asked where the kids where @@Haircrafter22
Bingo. The AZ cops have to have other states do their work for them, and I guess nobody's filed on it yet. She knew her kids were dark, and even went with the plan. There's the detail about how Alex found Brandon, too. Alex didn't know the few other people who knew the address.....duh. Then, there's Ian's honeymoon when his EX found out about lil Melaniece's relatives and their dark spirit club.
Yes, Emma being a teacher of young children is absolutely frightening. She should have been horrified that bodies were buried on dad’s property. Instead, she seemed unmoved by it and only upset about daddy going to jail. She asks no questions about it or who these bodies are. And then, she talks about moving into that house…like WHO would move there?? These people are nuts!
I think the most shocking part of the trial so far is finding out that Tammy and the Kids participated in the dark scale and that they as a family had labeled some of the Sunday school kids from their church as “dark.”
Dont know why thats so shocking to most..chad had somewhat of a following with these weird beliefs already.. im sure hed manage to convince his wife and kids to follow him blindly a long time ago too with all his visions and dreams he would sell to them.. :/ he had them under his control it seems too..
I hope the attention of this trial makes the school think twice about employing someone who believes some kids are " dark" ........ to label kids at a Sunday school is even more dodgy ...
I don't believe Tammy knew that the results of being dark was going to end up in death I think that evolved as the relationship with Lori and Chad came about so they could remove the obstacles from them and gain money
How do you feel about chads daughter saying she gonna move in his house since he’s not coming back while the police are digging up the bodies of the kids that is horrific
@@candicewitzkoske3155Chad prepared all his children BEFORE his arrest! That's why their defending him and not their poor mother! They bought all his lies and turned their backs on their own mother. Those children disgust me!
@@candicewitzkoske3155 I don't think it's stretching it. When you're talking about cults, some of the things they do, and force others to do are too horrific for the average mind to imagine a human being capable of.
@@candicewitzkoske3155 No stretch at all. The stretch would be thinking the dead bodies on the property was news to her and she doesn't express concern to her Dad about who they might be or how long they'd been there.
@LawandCrime I think it's possible the neighbor down the road that died suddenly was on to Chad or witnessed some of it. His death needs to be investigated more thoroughly.
Divorce wasn’t an option because then he couldn’t be the leader of the 144,000 AND by killing Tammy, he collected $400k in life insurance to help fund their new life in Hawaii.
He wanted the life insurance money. He knew Lori was VERY high maintenance and he would need a lot of money to keep her happy and to keep her from killing him off like she has 2 previous husbands; Charles and Joseph.
I'm pretty certain he was duct-taped alive to 'restrain the dark spirit'. Did this happen at Alex Cox's house or in Laurie's bedroom near where the guests were sleeping?
WHY Kay and Larry? They gave away thier grand baby because he was Autistic.. which is no shock because it sounds like his real parents didn't want him either. ALL of those people failed that child!!!!
@@Im.a.king.not.a.princessthey didn’t give away their grandchild because he was autistic. You should be ashamed of yourself! They had his biological uncle and his wife adopt him because they are elderly and could not support him as well as a younger set of parents could. What a disgusting thing to say.
@@cheesehead4670 Yeah, yeah, I've heard the excuses they gave. I'm aware what they said. It still remains that they gave him to the Uncle when they could have kept him... and yes its my opinion that it was at least in part because of his condition. Why should I be ashamed for making the observation? I'm not. ALSO...his real MOM and DAD could have kept him. Like I said- he was failed many times.
@@cheesehead4670I agree, they were trying to make the best decision for him. How were they supposed to know what a disgusting 🤮 gross human their "mother" was. It's thanks to them that these two monsters were caught.
The whole thing is horrible. I believe Alex Cox was murdered or deliberately took something cause he was given that weird blessing by Chad. Listening to it alone is frightening.
I also believe this. It was cleaning up loose ends. He had completed his tasks of disposing of the kids, and was of no further use to Chad and Lori, in fact I think Alex could be pretty talkative about things Lori would not want exposed.
@@arrivagabry me neither unless Alex took some kind of drug that caused the blood clots. I believe Alex was coerced, by Chad, into his demise with some kind of spiel about continuing to be a warrior behind the veil and his mission on earth was done🙄🙄🙄
Chad didn't even have any shocking reaction that they found two deceased children bodies buried in his backyard while they had him in custody in the police vehicle because he clearly knew the moment they started searching his property that they were going to find the bodies.
I listened to an interesting podcast yesterday about Mormon beliefs. Light and dark is a tenet in the religion but not the decimal weighting of it, that’s all Chad.
13:33 When Melanie G was talking to Lori and Chad on the phone, and asks why they told the cops that JJ was with her, Lori has a bit of a Freudian slip. She starts to say that she needed somebody to USE, then corrects herself. I think Lori used people her whole life, then threw them away when they weren't useful to her anymore, like she did with her first 4 husbands, and probably her own brother.
Colby was right. Chad really truly DOES look like Peter Griffin from Family Guy! I’m so heartbroken for him and his loss of so many of his family members! He seems like just a sweet and genuine human. I hope he’s able to move forward and live a happy and healthy life.
that's going to stick out to the jury. I don't even have kids, but that put a weird feeling in my gut as if they were talking about my own kid..imagine the parents on the jury hearing that.
Well, yes they are. Tammy, JJ, Tylee....3 or more people over a significant period of time. You can't pick & choose which people get a pass. A serial killer-couple. Wasn't Lori indicted for the murder of her husband Charles, as well? I wonder what was the outcome. They'd have continued victimizing their own family members because they were too lazy to go outside of their comfort zone and who better to target than those who have their guard down. Cary Stayner (the Yosemite killer) was classified as a serial killer even though 3 of the 4 (known) victims were all murdered during one event.
@@MariAsherahRoseFalse information, William Lagioia is alive. It’s thought she offed Joseph Ryan, Tylee’s biological father, whose name Colby has. Lori profited by $60,000 from his death. Charles Vallow foiled her with his life insurance, she didn’t realise he had left it to his sister, Kay Woodcock. There are also questions around her sister Stacey’s death. She being the mother of Melani Pawlowski, Lori’s protege niece. She was married to Brandon Boudreaux when Alex Cox made an attempt on his life. Obviously that attempt was so Melani could take his life insurance. Money is definitely their main motivation.
I sure hope this monster is found guilty. There seemed to be some hiccups early on but hopefully it will be smooth going forward. Did they ever find the remains of the animal in the pet cemetary Chad claimed to shoot while he was burying the kids?
The reason I didn’t watch this court broadcast is because the 3-way split screen made each screen too small to make out the facial expressions of the speakers.
Just throwing it out there, if you watch directly from Judge Boyce’s channel the picture and audio seems to be the best. Still not great, but better than anyone sharing the stream.
I will never get over that jailhouse phone call. Why would she say to him, “Shall I call you later?” They both knew what was in the backyard, were they just hoping they’d get lucky and the police wouldn’t find anything?? And he says hes calm and for her to pray and we see what transpires…..delusional! Its such confusing behaviour
what is so ironic is that Chad wanted to put a mobile home on his property for him and Lori the Goddess. So she goes from living in luxury homes with pools with Charles back to the Goddess of the trailer on a pasture hahahaha
You know I realize that Lori looks crazy and she is and they def fueled each others fires but he really was the mastermind and is the most despicable of all!!
Maybe he was but I doubt it. She has been a manipulative narcissist her entire life and seems capable of getting people to do her will by any means necessary.
I totally disagree! She left a trail of bodies before she even met Chad. He hadn't killed until he met Lori. She has been a spoiled manipulator since she hit the ground crawling.
It sounds like people believed Chad’s horrible beliefs about light and dark spirits. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but anyone with any sense of right and wrong would think that as crazy!
I hope the kids believe that crap, because being delulu would at least partially explain why they're standing with the man that killed their mother. Shame on them, seriously.
I know, looking at computer, writing like he's important, he's not even a human..Gibbs making that recording hearing that Chad, you could hear his EVIL
I find him annoying because he makes a statement then says, “correct, right, would you agree, etc”. For example he doesn’t say, “were the children at the funeral?” Instead he says, “the children were at the funeral, correct?” This makes him sound like an aggressive bully trying to browbeat witnesses instead of someone attempting to obtain information.
Fantasy run amok. And seriously the worst for me still, is Charles knew what was happening up to the minute of his death trying to save Tylee and JJ. Shot in cold blood. I don’t believe one word of the story of his murder as told by the killers. I think Tylee also sensed something was not right after Charles death. Thank you for covering this case. It needs to be shared.
Where did the video go that had Lorri, Alex and Chad going in and out of the storage container with the tyre off the back of the Jeep? Why haven’t they shown that video in court.?
I truly think that because of Charles’s email about the affair combined with the kids missing and everyone looking for them then Chad telling her about the raccoon burial in the backyard, Tammy had confronted Chad and a struggle ensued and then Tammy mysteriously was murdered. He is so guilty and then those fake tears.
I don't think so. She was always going to be offed. Chad wanted new blonde wife ( and money from life insurance. Tammy was subservient to Chad. She wasn't a threat
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Doubtful. One would hope so, but lots and lots of families of killers remain in complete denial and are seemingly as demented in their thinking and reasoning as the killers are. The religious cult these people are associated with is scary on so many levels. 😳
You will never convince me that both Melanies and maybe a few others weren’t involved in every. single. detail about the kids, Tammy and Brandon. 23:29 I’m also wondering if Chad convinced and manipulated Tammy that she was dark and needed to die in order to rid her of the “darkness” and maybe that’s why the kids are defending him regarding their mom and not surprised there’s bodies buried there.
What bothers me most is hearing about all the bruises on JJ. That means he had time to realize they were trying to hurt him and fight back. He had to be terrified, confused, betrayed. Even if it was a couple minutes, it had to be an eternity for him. No punishment is enough to make up for that.
Thank you for this recap. I haven't been able to watch much of the trial due to working, but I will jump when I have a chance. I saw some of what you covered but really like your delivery of the facts.
@@ahuman_xo Yes, and I wondered if she also witnessed something when Charles Vallow was shot. They said she came out with a baseball bat... and, didn't Alex have a bandage about his head, claiming Charles did it. What if Tylee was the one that hit Alex, to protect Charles? We will never know I guess as the two that are alive and do know are not talking.
In Heather Daybells interview with Mathias' of Hidden True Crimes (Chads SIL), there was a big family luau and Tammy was in attendance but slumpy .... Heather said she inferred she was in one of her down slumps. I wondered if Tammy read the email, knew it was a possibility or aligned with her suspicions or knowing, but didn't want to address it. So blocked it online, and mentally .... depression resulted. I wish someone who does timeliness would put the email and Luau together ...
I always feel if Chad was any kind of decent partner, he would've made that phone call to the police when Tammy was shot at. Instead of leaving her to do it
Anyone who didn't assist or got in Lori's way was "Dark! It's LUNACY! But some texts I have heard like her pressuring Chad to hurry and get rid of Tammy, in different code words! Proves they are not crazy, but evil!
Omg Mel must have let someone in the church what she thinks before she made the phone call. Is it too far fetched to think the corporate mormon mafia was instructing Mel since that phone call? If she was really concerned she would have made sure she sighted those kids or taken her concerns to the police. Cos at the end of the day she holds an ecclesiastical position as a teacher for the womens auxiliary group. She should be charged with something...she chose not to see all the crazy going on
The dark Spirits are truly Lori & Chad. Everyone that has lost their life murdered by these two are truly the essence of light & love residing in heaven. Lori & Chad will be where they belong for eternity there's no doubt about that.
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To think that his daughter Emma is a teacher is giving me great concern.
Why?
Hopefully she's under a daily microscope. I wouldn't let my kid anywhere near her. Scary!
@@Adele-b4r Emma never asked why are the police here, why are they digging in the yarn etc.... nothing! She knew horrific things but followed her dads lead and talked finances ? Still insists dad innocent ??? CREEPY! Will justify anything !
Yep
@@Adele-b4r She has some effed up beliefs. I wouldn't trust her around my kids.
Chad should also be charged with Charles murder, because it was him that marked him as dark. Also, he knew about the attempted murder of Brandon Boudreaux. He helped put the seat and tire in the storage unit. He should be charged the same as Lori in the all the deaths, in my opinion.
I think they are waiting to wrap up Lori’s trial for murdering Charles before charging Chad
Arizona doesn't think there's enough evidence against Chad for Charles' murder
@@catherinehargrave9539 I thought in her first trial she would've tried to throw Chad under there bus but she never said anything
I totally agree with you, also remember he called the funeral home concerning Charles acting like he was making the arrangements and if you listen to the recording at one point Chad is laughing.
So in my opinion at the least it's a conspiracy to commit a crime.
@@KayDSavage-dy6of I think she would be willing to testify for him now, but Prior won’t do that he knows better
How arrogant and self absorbed to arbitrate who's fit to be on this earth ...
Sickening monster imo
@@tanyachristensen5330 Yes, if he has done the unthinkable that we know about , makes you wonder what shenanigans he got up to as a grave digger !
He just wanted those kids out of his way, profit from the deaths, and keep his own kids worshipping him. I can't believe that woman let him manipulate her to the point of murdering her own children. Absolutely disgusting. He deserves the needle.
Delusional.
@@catbones1I love that you used the word shenanigans. 😊
The air in the room with him sitting there must feel like absolute revulsion ...
Everyone blames her but he is equally, if not more, evil.
She's delusional/crazy, so that's almost forgivable (almost), but his eyes were open. that's what makes it worse.
@@Juhani139 I agree, she is crazy, even thought Alex was the hit man I think he truly believed that it was god's will, Chad knew what he was doing, he fed them the kool aid and they both drank it. Chad had a plan and they just followed his orders, he is the worse of them all
They're both as bad as each other.
Three of Lori's family were killed, one of Chad's was killed.
@@It-is-me...Melsie THAT IS THE TRUTH !!!!
I find it interesting that both of Lori's children were dark spirits, but not one of Chad's 5 children was a dark spirit. 🤔
They are adults and weren’t in his way.
they drank the kool-aid it's too late for them.
They went along with his delusions imo
The sad part is that Charles would have taken them both, Colby would have taken them both. Even her mom and sister, they used to defend her so much at the beginning, that I’m sure they would have found a way to defend her “reputation” while taking the kids. She had choices, but was selfish.
@@lhr8833If Charles had taken the kids he would have also got the social security checks. Lori wanted that money
It is concerning that tammy and emma believed in the light/dark as they both worked in schools with children
This is the problem with teaching religion to children. It’s so easy to brainwash them into believing anything and using the religion as a justification for committing first degree felonies. I have always felt that religion is evil and a very dangerous practice….any religion.
Smh was shock to learn Tammy knew about the scale not sure if she knew people were going to die becuz of it I think that evolved for Chad and Lori sake to remove the obstacles and gain money from the death
Tammy and Chad had one of their sons told he had dark demons in him and he has to come to Idaho to rid them. They’re all nuts.
I find it hard to believe Tammy believed in dark/light demons same as Chad and Lori. More like, maybe just not as spiritually inclined as Chad thought they should be. That would apply to almost all young children. These people are dangerous. Emma and Garth are questionable in my mind. I have no doubt they will lie under oath e for thief father. How very sad!
I find it disgusting that Chad's using the "jezebel" defense. Gross. Own your murderous behavior, AH!
I hope the jurors will not dispute that he is just as responsible as Lori is....but sometimes justice doesn't prevail...hope it's not another Casey Anthony circus.
The Casey Anthony jury was painfully incompetent. There was more than enough circumstantial evidence to convict her. Only Florida could churn out a jury that inept.
THIS.
Correct but Chad’s children didn’t prevent Chad from going where many men have gone before.
@@annhenry3135 What do Chad's brainwashed sons and daughters have to do with him murdering their mother?
Besides, patriarchy doesn't encourage rebellion against one's father and cults do not allow disobedience of the leader - and the Daybell family was based on both.
I feel so sad for Colby to know this happened to his siblings. 😔 that has to be the worst pain ever.
Poor Colby 😢
What’s really sad about JJ, to me, is that there are people available who would have eagerly taken him off of Lori’s hands. They did not have to kill him, to free Lori of the burden of dealing with him.
They wanted the money. He had support money coming in that would have gone away if he was in someone else's care.
@@lisavandenhoven5672 exactly
She wanted to keep receiving his social security checks and that wouldn't fly if someone else took him.
Her sister in the phone call told Lori that...several people would've taken both of them!!
Lori wanted the social security money!
I'm predicting that Chad is going to be convicted and get the DP.
I’m hoping that he doesn’t get to walk😱. Reasonable doubt!
Prior is doing a stellar job at defending this murdering monster.
We still don’t have Info it’s nuts still no clue what happened
he wont. if lori was convicted i have no doubt they jury will put 2 and 2 together and get him as well. he really has no defense..dont forget he's on the hook for Tammys murder as well. too many bodies on his watch @@alicemorton9145
@@alicemorton9145He’s not gonna be able to bully the Medical Examiner that performed the autopsy like he did the Coroner.
@@JackieOlantern💯 💯 💯
Chad and wifey really thought they were living in a netflix movie or smth
I mean, they were .. just not the kind they thought 😂
Dark Hallmark
As a neighbor to the Daybell property…..this story breaks me. I can’t drive by every day and not think of the evil in those people.
I feel for you.
And now you’re a neighbor to chad’s lawyer lol
Wow! I'm so sorry 😢
I'm just glad you're ok. They are murderous people without remorse and regret. One of the first things Chad Daybell worries about in the back of the cop car is “the neighbors”- not his stepchildren’s remains in his backyard. So they were paying attention to the neighbors making sure no one saw anything. Stay vigilant until the lawyer moves in.
It's difficult for you. Imagine how Emma and Joe live in the same house that those poor kids were buried
How do you feel about his daughter saying she gonna move in to his house while police were digging up the kids bodies in the yard
Weird as her dad!
She may have known about the disposal of the children's bodies 😮
they had to have known. no o n e is THAT oblivious. shes a school teacher and it really baffles me how she never once asked where the kids where @@Haircrafter22
You’d think both she and Chad would have been horrified hearing they found bodies in the yard… but no… just kept chatting about credit cards… 😑
The kids maintain Chad (dad) was framed
Why isn’t Melanie Palowski charged with attempted murder on Brandon?
Baby steps. This cult really made fools of the state. The state knows it got played so bad. I feel like the state is coming for everyone, in due time.
Bingo. The AZ cops have to have other states do their work for them, and I guess nobody's filed on it yet. She knew her kids were dark, and even went with the plan. There's the detail about how Alex found Brandon, too. Alex didn't know the few other people who knew the address.....duh. Then, there's Ian's honeymoon when his EX found out about lil Melaniece's relatives and their dark spirit club.
Yes, Emma being a teacher of young children is absolutely frightening. She should have been horrified that bodies were buried on dad’s property. Instead, she seemed unmoved by it and only upset about daddy going to jail. She asks no questions about it or who these bodies are. And then, she talks about moving into that house…like WHO would move there?? These people are nuts!
I think the most shocking part of the trial so far is finding out that Tammy and the Kids participated in the dark scale and that they as a family had labeled some of the Sunday school kids from their church as “dark.”
I know when Hermosillo read that family text/email it was shocking to hear them rating a child 😩
Dont know why thats so shocking to most..chad had somewhat of a following with these weird beliefs already.. im sure hed manage to convince his wife and kids to follow him blindly a long time ago too with all his visions and dreams he would sell to them.. :/ he had them under his control it seems too..
And some of them are school teachers. Imagine what they probably secretly think about some of their students
I hope the attention of this trial makes the school think twice about employing someone who believes some kids are " dark" ........ to label kids at a Sunday school is even more dodgy ...
I don't believe Tammy knew that the results of being dark was going to end up in death I think that evolved as the relationship with Lori and Chad came about so they could remove the obstacles from them and gain money
How do you feel about chads daughter saying she gonna move in his house since he’s not coming back while the police are digging up the bodies of the kids that is horrific
I might be stretching it but perhaps they were all in on Tylee’s seemingly ritual sacrifice?!
@@candicewitzkoske3155Chad prepared all his children BEFORE his arrest! That's why their defending him and not their poor mother! They bought all his lies and turned their backs on their own mother. Those children disgust me!
@@maggielusk6833 That’s quite telling
@@candicewitzkoske3155 I don't think it's stretching it. When you're talking about cults, some of the things they do, and force others to do are too horrific for the average mind to imagine a human being capable of.
@@candicewitzkoske3155 No stretch at all. The stretch would be thinking the dead bodies on the property was news to her and she doesn't express concern to her Dad about who they might be or how long they'd been there.
Both of those children suffered so much it makes me sick! The manner is beyond vile. Chad was burning limbs, but not the type he told Tammy.
@LawandCrime I think it's possible the neighbor down the road that died suddenly was on to Chad or witnessed some of it. His death needs to be investigated more thoroughly.
FOUR - FOUR PEOPLE WERE KILLED...Charles Vallow, Ja Jay, Tylee and Tammy.
ALEX IS DEAD TOO..Making it 5 people!
And The Hoe's first unfortunate husband
make it 6. That we know of.
And don't forget the attempted shooting of Brandon
More! Add Joe Ryan and Alex Cox.
Screamed for her husband to help her, but he was the one wanting her dead
I know that is so sad.
So sad
My heart breaks for her & these poor kids. He's a sick disgusting 🤮 human being
Terrible. I can't fathom.
Plus Chad was first to run! You know he had to make Tammy sick
There sits a man who no longer wanted to be married to his wife Tammy, and divorce wasn't on his mind.
Divorce wasn’t an option because then he couldn’t be the leader of the 144,000 AND by killing Tammy, he collected $400k in life insurance to help fund their new life in Hawaii.
He wanted the life insurance money. He knew Lori was VERY high maintenance and he would need a lot of money to keep her happy and to keep her from killing him off like she has 2 previous husbands; Charles and Joseph.
When Chad was talking about burying a racoon that was probably code that he had buried the children. Chad, Lori and Alex are the true monsters.
Why would you duct tape someone after they were dead… wait you wouldn’t…. They duct taped that child while he was alive…
Did they place him in the ground alive?
Horrific
That’s exactly what I was thinking too. 😪
They suffocated and bound him. When I had that realization I threw up.
@@Esther_Melgozai suspect yes
I'm pretty certain he was duct-taped alive to 'restrain the dark spirit'. Did this happen at Alex Cox's house or in Laurie's bedroom near where the guests were sleeping?
Sending hugs and support to Aunt Vicki, Kay, and Larry. ❤
@therealz360z7Colby put up a video on his UA-cam channel the other day. Him and his wife are expecting their 3rd child❤
WHY Kay and Larry? They gave away thier grand baby because he was Autistic.. which is no shock because it sounds like his real parents didn't want him either. ALL of those people failed that child!!!!
@@Im.a.king.not.a.princessthey didn’t give away their grandchild because he was autistic. You should be ashamed of yourself! They had his biological uncle and his wife adopt him because they are elderly and could not support him as well as a younger set of parents could. What a disgusting thing to say.
@@cheesehead4670 Yeah, yeah, I've heard the excuses they gave. I'm aware what they said. It still remains that they gave him to the Uncle when they could have kept him... and yes its my opinion that it was at least in part because of his condition. Why should I be ashamed for making the observation? I'm not. ALSO...his real MOM and DAD could have kept him. Like I said- he was failed many times.
@@cheesehead4670I agree, they were trying to make the best decision for him. How were they supposed to know what a disgusting 🤮 gross human their "mother" was. It's thanks to them that these two monsters were caught.
The whole thing is horrible. I believe Alex Cox was murdered or deliberately took something cause he was given that weird blessing by Chad. Listening to it alone is frightening.
I also believe this. It was cleaning up loose ends. He had completed his tasks of disposing of the kids, and was of no further use to Chad and Lori, in fact I think Alex could be pretty talkative about things Lori would not want exposed.
I always thought Zulema did it for Chad, but maybe Alex did it himself like told
There was an autopsy on Alex. The medical examiner determined the cause of death was blood clots in the lungs caused by untreated high blood pressure.
@@angelamercedes5136 don't believe that
@@arrivagabry me neither unless Alex took some kind of drug that caused the blood clots. I believe Alex was coerced, by Chad, into his demise with some kind of spiel about continuing to be a warrior behind the veil and his mission on earth was done🙄🙄🙄
Chad didn't even have any shocking reaction that they found two deceased children bodies buried in his backyard while they had him in custody in the police vehicle because he clearly knew the moment they started searching his property that they were going to find the bodies.
More importantly, his daughter wasn't shocked and she hasn't been charged.
Watching this segment truly makes you realize how bizarre this case is.
And this is only the half of it!
It's nuts that they would think they could do all this and get away with it...especially when there were minors involved. I don't get it.
I agree … I think her friend was crazy dooms day too ! They all sound crazy !
Melanie should be in prison too. I think JJ was already deceased when Alex carried him in the house. She knows way more than she’s said.
@@laurenurban3942
Definitely.
I listened to an interesting podcast yesterday about Mormon beliefs. Light and dark is a tenet in the religion but not the decimal weighting of it, that’s all Chad.
13:33 When Melanie G was talking to Lori and Chad on the phone, and asks why they told the cops that JJ was with her, Lori has a bit of a Freudian slip. She starts to say that she needed somebody to USE, then corrects herself.
I think Lori used people her whole life, then threw them away when they weren't useful to her anymore, like she did with her first 4 husbands, and probably her own brother.
I’ve just posted exactly the same point!
Great catch!
and her children!
Prior should never of mentioned the minor boy in Sunday school, was dark!
Colby was right. Chad really truly DOES look like Peter Griffin from Family Guy!
I’m so heartbroken for him and his loss of so many of his family members! He seems like just a sweet and genuine human. I hope he’s able to move forward and live a happy and healthy life.
In the beginning he looked like the pillsbury dough boy. Since he lost the weight I agree with you.
Prior should have never named that child he is a minor. Imagine how that would make his parent’s feel to know this. IMO
I also said this. Very inappropriate!!
that's going to stick out to the jury. I don't even have kids, but that put a weird feeling in my gut as if they were talking about my own kid..imagine the parents on the jury hearing that.
Yeah, it will be interesting if there us any fallout from Prior stating the child's name...He's an attorney, he knows better...
We wanna see rerun of epic realtor moment.
Man talk about being hoisted by your own petard! 😂
Brandon’s ex wife Melanie needs to be charged with something at least.she had much more involvement than people think!!
I think both Melanie's were in on it
Woe to those who call light, dark and dark, light....
Really, don’t they qualify as serial killers ?
Well, yes they are. Tammy, JJ, Tylee....3 or more people over a significant period of time. You can't pick & choose which people get a pass. A serial killer-couple. Wasn't Lori indicted for the murder of her husband Charles, as well? I wonder what was the outcome.
They'd have continued victimizing their own family members because they were too lazy to go outside of their comfort zone and who better to target than those who have their guard down.
Cary Stayner (the Yosemite killer) was classified as a serial killer even though 3 of the 4 (known) victims were all murdered during one event.
Lori was taking out people before Chad.
Who?
@@MariAsherahRoseFalse information, William Lagioia is alive. It’s thought she offed Joseph Ryan, Tylee’s biological father, whose name Colby has. Lori profited by $60,000 from his death. Charles Vallow foiled her with his life insurance, she didn’t realise he had left it to his sister, Kay Woodcock.
There are also questions around her sister Stacey’s death. She being the mother of Melani Pawlowski, Lori’s protege niece. She was married to Brandon Boudreaux when Alex Cox made an attempt on his life. Obviously that attempt was so Melani could take his life insurance. Money is definitely their main motivation.
@personalcheeses8073 - You are correct. I mixed up those 2 exes of Lori and didn't check to make sure. That's my fault.
@@MariAsherahRose William is alive. Joe Ryan died in 2018
@@personalcheeses8073 - I stand corrected. I should have checked before posting as I had gotten the two exes confused in my mind.
I sure hope this monster is found guilty. There seemed to be some hiccups early on but hopefully it will be smooth going forward. Did they ever find the remains of the animal in the pet cemetary Chad claimed to shoot while he was burying the kids?
No, they did not find raccoon remains. Also, Emma put a chicken coop above where the raccoon was supposedly buried.
So tacky EMMA!!
The reason I didn’t watch this court broadcast is because the 3-way split screen made each screen too small to make out the facial expressions of the speakers.
And the audio is horrible.😖
After the first couple days they improved it enough to be able to watch.
Yeah, I'm not watching either, it's awful quality, might as well just have sound and a photo. -.-
Just throwing it out there, if you watch directly from Judge Boyce’s channel the picture and audio seems to be the best. Still not great, but better than anyone sharing the stream.
I just zoomed in by pinching on my phone
How could THEY sleep at night???
Psychos sleep wonderfully.
They didn’t, they spent all night playing James and Elaina with “Storm" in the lead role.
@@Soffity 🤣
I will never get over that jailhouse phone call. Why would she say to him, “Shall I call you later?” They both knew what was in the backyard, were they just hoping they’d get lucky and the police wouldn’t find anything?? And he says hes calm and for her to pray and we see what transpires…..delusional! Its such confusing behaviour
The poor Grandparents gotta through this trail after already going through the 1st one. I can't even imagine
And next Charles and Brandon
what is so ironic is that Chad wanted to put a mobile home on his property for him and Lori the Goddess. So she goes from living in luxury homes with pools with Charles back to the Goddess of the trailer on a pasture hahahaha
He wanted to cover the bodies
You know I realize that Lori looks crazy and she is and they def fueled each others fires but he really was the mastermind and is the most despicable of all!!
Maybe he was but I doubt it. She has been a manipulative narcissist her entire life and seems capable of getting people to do her will by any means necessary.
I totally disagree! She left a trail of bodies before she even met Chad. He hadn't killed until he met Lori. She has been a spoiled manipulator since she hit the ground crawling.
How do someone convince you to kill your children
So, Tammy was in on the “dark” thing too? Wow. These people….
It sounds like people believed Chad’s horrible beliefs about light and dark spirits. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but anyone with any sense of right and wrong would think that as crazy!
@@foodchoicemattersandmore616not some religious people, most religious people believe in the devil.
This is very difficult to listen to... One needs to really be able to stomach the horrendous violation of these 2 children!
It was so sad to hear that they did this to someone wearing pull ups
😔😭
You forgot to mention the murder of Charles Vallow.
He sounded ELATED AT BURNING LIMBS AND RACCOONS
He should be jailed for this haircut
😂😂😂 it’s so bad.
His toupee is distracting lmfao
Who are you talking about?
and his triple chin
@@ViaonikaHe doesn't have a toupe.
Chad looks so guilty covered with darkness, ughly man inside & out
They are the darkness.
Also shocking is that Chad got all Tammy’s passwords a week before she died.
Yeah, THAT was interesting!
I hope the kids believe that crap, because being delulu would at least partially explain why they're standing with the man that killed their mother. Shame on them, seriously.
Thank you for the excellent coverage!
I really hope that they end up throwing the books at Chad Daybell because he is just as culpable as Lori and Alex imho.
I hate for that man to be able to sit over there with a smirk on his face!! He should not be allowed to do that!! 😢
I know, looking at computer, writing like he's important, he's not even a human..Gibbs making that recording hearing that Chad, you could hear his EVIL
His nose in the air like he's above everyone in the room! Hopefully he'll get that goober face reconstructed in prison!
@@rigs6874 he has the voice of a cult leader it makes me shudder.
Prior is so annoying. He is the epitome of why we all despise lawyers.
He’s just trying to defend someone with zero defense!
Agreed, and i am an attorhey
@@janetdurkee8527 I worked for worse.
I find him annoying because he makes a statement then says, “correct, right, would you agree, etc”. For example he doesn’t say, “were the children at the funeral?” Instead he says, “the children were at the funeral, correct?” This makes him sound like an aggressive bully trying to browbeat witnesses instead of someone attempting to obtain information.
Riiiight? Riiiiight? Drove me up a wall.
Fantasy run amok. And seriously the worst for me still, is Charles knew what was happening up to the minute of his death trying to save Tylee and JJ. Shot in cold blood. I don’t believe one word of the story of his murder as told by the killers. I think Tylee also sensed something was not right after Charles death. Thank you for covering this case. It needs to be shared.
Where did the video go that had Lorri, Alex and Chad going in and out of the storage container with the tyre off the back of the Jeep? Why haven’t they shown that video in court.?
Hasn’t yet I believe it will be shown befor closing arguements
they showed it in Lori's trial but perhaps it wasn't allowed in Chad's? Prior would have nowhere to go with such strong evidence.
@@fezcapone2784 Yes thank you, I did see they finally did bring it up, I was hoping they would. 😃👍
@@SerenDipity64711 Yes thank you, they finally did bring it up in the closing arguments. 😃😉
Excellent job on this summary. Thank you.
I think Chad will be charged with conspiracy for Charles' murder after the verdict in this trial.
The jury just voted to salt the slug.
Justice for Tammy and Tylee and JJ
And Charles Vallow.
And Charles.
Yes and Charles
what amazes me is how healthy Chad Daybell looks. Prison has not took much of a toll on him physically. Looks like he's been eating well.
Chad probably busy trying to brainwash ppl in there
He’s probably got religious fanatics stocking his commissary account 🤬
He probably likes the food.
@@notnow7973 Prison food? He must really like food if he likes prison food.
@@theresagosnell7645 I know. He’s a complete dope.
I believe that Melanie Gibb is in this up to her neck
She should of been but she turned states on them.
Too shocking is exactly what it is. May these innocent souls RIP. Justice for JJ, Tylee, Tammy and Charles.
I truly think that because of Charles’s email about the affair combined with the kids missing and everyone looking for them then Chad telling her about the raccoon burial in the backyard, Tammy had confronted Chad and a struggle ensued and then Tammy mysteriously was murdered. He is so guilty and then those fake tears.
That’s an interesting theory.
I don't think so. She was always going to be offed. Chad wanted new blonde wife ( and money from life insurance. Tammy was subservient to Chad. She wasn't a threat
Detectives would know if there was a struggle because she would have had defensive wounds or bruising. He got her sleeping.
You of should NEVER let that kid be named in your podcast. He has nothing to do with your story that really unprofessional.
Prior should of Never said it to begin with! But yes they should of edited it out here!
@@judynickens6329Definitely should have been redacted or only initials used.
Melanie and husband must be charged as accessories
and Zulema
“…safe & happy”??😂😂
YEAH right!
Are we gonna ignore the similarities between this case and the Ruby Frank’s case…?
Jodi and Chad knew each other
@@DenzX_NJ see why is no one discussing this?!
I’ll BET they did… intimately… lol
Does Pryor and Chad think that the 144,000 is going to get him out of jail
LMAO 😂🤣
Brandon likely now realizes just how much danger he was in and how fortunate he is to have survived these lunatics. His ex wife amongst them.
I sure hope the jury has no doubt, convicts Chad to the death penalty!
I just don’t understand how Lori didn’t get the death penalty, female gets life but man gets death penalty
@experienceofchris1108 it had nothing to do with her being female. It was because evidence was not given to the defense in time. Judge took off DP.
@@merricat3025 didn't Lori demand a quick trial? I seem to recall somewhere, that she did.
@katrinaglanville3612 she didn't waive a speedy trial, and the prosecution didn't get evidence to defense in time.
This is what happens when crazy meets crazy. It’s just sad because Charles called it out and was ignored.
A coroner is an elected official. Not a medical examiner. This should be changed in every state.
Great synopsis of this unbelievable story & crime!!
Chad is not coming home he’s guilty and is praying for a miracle
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Time and place, this ain’t it
Does anyone think that Chad’s children will wise up to the fact that he murdered their mom? There is so much evidence to support that he did.
I think they are too far gone ,they are brainwashed!
They will have no choice when he is convicted.
Doubtful. One would hope so, but lots and lots of families of killers remain in complete denial and are seemingly as demented in their thinking and reasoning as the killers are. The religious cult these people are associated with is scary on so many levels. 😳
You will never convince me that both Melanies and maybe a few others weren’t involved in every. single. detail about the kids, Tammy and Brandon. 23:29 I’m also wondering if Chad convinced and manipulated Tammy that she was dark and needed to die in order to rid her of the “darkness” and maybe that’s why the kids are defending him regarding their mom and not surprised there’s bodies buried there.
They must have been so scared 🙏♥️🙏
What bothers me most is hearing about all the bruises on JJ. That means he had time to realize they were trying to hurt him and fight back. He had to be terrified, confused, betrayed. Even if it was a couple minutes, it had to be an eternity for him. No punishment is enough to make up for that.
Me too its heartbreaking Jesse!
I think her or Alex had a part in her 3rd husband's death too. RIP Joe Ryan.
Both. It was well known that Lori told people she paid Alex to kill Joe.
Thank you for this recap. I haven't been able to watch much of the trial due to working, but I will jump when I have a chance. I saw some of what you covered but really like your delivery of the facts.
Why was Tylee killed first? And then JJ weeks later?
Because she would have fought tooth and nail to protect JJ
Yeah, she was the bigger threat, at 17
She would've questioned JJ's disappearance
@@ahuman_xo Yes, and I wondered if she also witnessed something when Charles Vallow was shot. They said she came out with a baseball bat... and, didn't Alex have a bandage about his head, claiming Charles did it. What if Tylee was the one that hit Alex, to protect Charles? We will never know I guess as the two that are alive and do know are not talking.
I wonder why Tammy blocked Charles email.i wonder if she did not belive it. Also i wonder if she caught onto anything eles he was doing.
In Heather Daybells interview with Mathias' of Hidden True Crimes (Chads SIL), there was a big family luau and Tammy was in attendance but slumpy .... Heather said she inferred she was in one of her down slumps.
I wondered if Tammy read the email, knew it was a possibility or aligned with her suspicions or knowing, but didn't want to address it. So blocked it online, and mentally .... depression resulted.
I wish someone who does timeliness would put the email and Luau together ...
I think chad probably blocked him
@@mardyross2838Could you please tell me what a Laua is?
@charsiu_808 agree. Or she read it and didn't want to deal with it. Too ashamed or heartbroken.
@charsiu_808 , no because that was on her school email. Chad wouldn't have access to it
I always feel if Chad was any kind of decent partner, he would've made that phone call to the police when Tammy was shot at. Instead of leaving her to do it
I was hoping for more insight in this, how and why it all happened. And there is nothing new.
Anyone who didn't assist or got in Lori's way was "Dark!
It's LUNACY!
But some texts I have heard like her pressuring Chad to hurry and get rid of Tammy, in different code words!
Proves they are not crazy, but evil!
Those emails were written by chad.
When are they going to bring up all of Chad's text messages calling tammy viola saying she's gone dark etc.....
Omg Mel must have let someone in the church what she thinks before she made the phone call. Is it too far fetched to think the corporate mormon mafia was instructing Mel since that phone call? If she was really concerned she would have made sure she sighted those kids or taken her concerns to the police.
Cos at the end of the day she holds an ecclesiastical position as a teacher for the womens auxiliary group. She should be charged with something...she chose not to see all the crazy going on
The dark Spirits are truly Lori & Chad. Everyone that has lost their life murdered by these two are truly the essence of light & love residing in heaven. Lori & Chad will be where they belong for eternity there's no doubt about that.
Are any of Chad's family members or children at his trial?
No, they are defense witnesses and they know about and support his light and dark ratings of people!
I think Emma his daughter, testifies next as they mentioned before wrapping up that the next witness will be lengthy.
@@kaemarie1605Emma will be called by defense