‘Doomsday Cult’ Prophet: 5 Most Damning Pieces of Evidence Against Chad Daybell
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Chad Daybell is on trial for allegedly killing two children and his own wife in order to be with his new lover, Lori Vallow. Vallow has since been convicted for her participation in the deaths of her own kids, Tylee and JJ. Now prosecutors are going after Chad, who they believe killed the children and buried them on his Idaho property. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber breaks down the most incriminating evidence against Daybell with professor of law Jules Epstein.
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Why didn't his daughter asked her father what are they looking for and Why on our property ? And why dad ?do you think the cops are going to take you and your thinking your not coming back ?? Normal people asked questions nothing normal ab this conversation..
The Daybell family - at least Chad and Emma - both sound like what I imagine people who have been lobotomized sound like.
Emma has all her siblings to lie for dad
They both sound very VERY greedy too.
@@iveliserojas612you don’t know that 🙄
@kateashby3066
Emma? Is that you ??
🤷🤔 😂😂😂😂
Aspbergers.
So Chad’s a psychic that predicted his wife’s untimely death, but somehow didn’t know someone was burying and/or burning two bodies at two different times, 100 feet from his nose? Is that the defense theory?
Why didn’t Chad see “ all this?” In his visions
@@jolovesminnis Because he only sees what fits his greed or loinfire, And the proof he is not visionary at all, is the fact that he is on trial now. Clown of clowns.
@@ivannio8519 Loin fire sounds like an STD symptom.
@@MichelleTischner😂 yep
Yes, and the defense also claimed the gun was a paintball gun while also claiming Chad was the target of the paintball attack.
Chad is guilty.
The prison population is in danger if they are the type to listen to Chad’s warped BS.
@@Platinumpuppylol
@@PlatinumpuppyChad looks like the doe boy
Prior was trying to get tylees friend to say that jj didn't rely on Lori, that tylee was a mother to jj,why, maybe so he could say that jj went feral after tylee was killed and that chad killed jj by accident.
Ashlynn didn't fall for it.
@@SusanaXpeace2u is that more probable than Chad and Lori got rid of people in their way of wealth and being together?
Chad is one low energy demon hunter. When he manages to catch one, he bores them to death.
the way he speaks 😴
Looking at his goofy face does that too.
So true. Lori is the one with the energy, although she is looking more and more like Chuck Norris as she ages.
Haha!! Omg that is hilarious😂😂
I think the kids know something. The daughter isn’t very freaked out about HUMAN REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY!
Me thinks they think daddy is gawd.
Yes seems to me they knew and agreed to their deaths based on daddios sicko plans and delusions. Definitely sounds like the daughter knew all along. Which really should make her culpable in as too.
I really hope it’s just shock. Maybe with everything happening, she didn’t really know how to process it and acted strange.
@@spsbandgirl Its clearly more than shock. She acts like she knew what was coming. When dead bodies are found on the property and the police tell you that and you act totally unsuprised. Thats beyond weird. Then you discuss with your father that hes going to be gone a long time as if thats to be expected and is perfectly normal. Something that would only happen to a guilty person? and to then also only discuss how you're going to deal with money issues while hes imprisoned. It all stinks of knowing full well what went down.
@spsbandgirl Emma is actually living at the house now. To me that shows how evil she is, just like her dad.
As I recall, Lori searched for and purchased the wedding rings before Tammy died.
She purchased ALL the wedding stuff before Tammy died. Wedding attire, honeymoon, you name it.
@@kateashby3066right! And best I remember ld purchased it on Charles vallows card, bank account!!
Yeah, this guy's a typical defense attorney. Lol
4 acres is TINY. This is not a Texas ranch. My front field is 5 acres. I know every inch of it. If anything is disturbed, we’d see it immediately. Prior wants it to sound like a huge farm. It’s not.
Right! A bonfire made of "tree debris" enough to burn a body is going to be quite visible.....not the kind of thing to escape your attention..
Not t mention that his land is a big rectangle, flat, and nothing in it but the property itself (no barn, no stables, nada). Just a clear view for miles around!
I have 5 acres in the from and 67 in the back yard. I know ever inch of it.
My neighbor five blocks away starts burning trash, and I know it.
Yeah if it was woods it would be different but it it’s a giant field with like 1 tree lol
15:38
“Yeah. I’m not coming back.”
Consciousness of guilt.
Definitely not something an innocent person would ever say!
Yes, and if it wasn't him, wouldn't he be assuming it was at least Alex if not Alex and Lori, and flipping out? If someone brought their murder victims to my property for burial, I'd be so livid I couldn't be controlled. Raging, in fact! Involving me in their murder, and putting me in the hotseat for it? This man has been out of touch with reality for decades.
Besides that, it was like he was trying to tell her without telling her, hey they’ve figured out where the kids are. Then, you’ll be hearing from your attorney. Lastly , the nonchalant conversation with Emma.
👍sure is
@@Dingle1234 He also tried to run while they were searching the property. Also in a call to Lori he said they're searching the property and she made it clear she knew exactly what the implications of that were.
15:05
“There’s nothing in the house.”
Yep! He knew everything was”on the property”.
4:04
Chad’s phone also pinged there during the suspected burial time.
How long did they think they were going to collect SSI on missing children?? At some point, you have to produce the kids?
Nah. You really don’t have to produce the kids for SS. Perhaps there should be a review?
Did they think her oldest son would just forget about his little brother and sister!!?? That's another one I don't get
For Tylee it was Survival Benefits.They may have also got rid of Joseph Ryan for 50,000 and Benefits from Tylee.
They’re delusional. Both have narcissistic personality disorder. I believe Chad is also a psych0path. That right there brings on delusions of grandeur (thinking you’re invincible). Add to that Lori’s delusion disorder and she is EXTRA “gone”. Hence why she didn’t throw Chad under the bus- she actually believed he’s what he claims. Chad knows he’s a con artist and 100% self centered. That’s why he threw lori under the bus no problem. But he still believes he’s better than everyone else, and deserves to be on a pedestal.
@@flamechick6you guys know they’re delusional right? I see way too many people asking logical questions, but logic doesn’t work on COO COO cr@zy people.
I keep thinking about how Tammy would have felt if she had lived to find out about Tylee and JJ's deaths and their burial on her property. Just the worst kind of betrayal of her values and who she was.
Wow. I never thought of that. Do you think she’d act like Emma and stand by her man?
@@madeathinks7578 i’m not sure she would have the option to stand by her man. Before he died Charles Vallow emailed her about the affair between Chad and Lori.
I think she would be 100% on his side just as kids are!
@@tracyshaffer4510 I agree, I think she totally bought his BS just like his kids buy his BS.
Pretty sad that Tammy worked to raise all those kids and not a single one will stand after her death and ask “what happened to mom”. That’s a heartbreaking betrayal.
Emma’s police car conversation is so damning. I think it implicates her.
I don’t. She really thought those bones were dog bones. That or she is SOOOOO stup!d that she thought the detectives would take her word for it AFTER they dug up the remains and then they’d just throw them back in the ground instead of testing them (no one believes that’s gunna happen). I think she’s lower on empathy like her dad (who has NONE) but that doesn’t mean she participated or knew. It just means she’s a product of her psychopathic father. She spent time alone with her father before he was placed in that car. Chad could have told her that there was a misunderstanding taking place- mentally preparing her for what was about to happen. I’ll tell you one thing psychopaths and Narcissists DONT do- they don’t share their incriminating or immoral secrets unless they have no choice. They are lairs and cons with EVERYONE. Yes even with their loyal kids. Why would Chad tell her the truth? What does he gain from that considering he doesn’t have a conscience? Why take the chance of losing your cult members (children)? She’s extremely brainwashed and delusional as a result (as is half that town that believes in rating people and I’m not exaggerating), but whatever the case, I don’t believe she was told by her dad that he did this and is now covering for him.
Agreed. Her reaction to human remains being found on her family property is incredibly strange and her lack of shock and horror suggests some foreknowledge
@@CJAmaraand the lack of upset for her mom? These kids might have been killed in a ritual?we don't know what these people are thinking..
I wonder if Emma is still teaching? Is she acting like it's normal her mom is dead around tammys work colleagues? She needs help for this cult like thinking IMO
I agree. It sounds like she knows about the murders and is totally OK with them.
The daybell kids live in their own world. !!!!!!! Sickkkkk.
His children must know on some level that their father is guilty of these crimes. How could they not?
Because there’s this very very real thing called denial, and also delusion. Denial is a self defense mechanism to protect the human psyche from information it cannot handle. Delusion is believing in X, when all evidence points to Y. They’re not only incapable of acknowledging that their perfect father k!lled their beloved mother, but they’re all brainwashed by Chad since birth so they are both in denial AND delusional.
The conversation with daughter. STRANGE
Very bizarre she is not thinking it's awful about human remains in any way ! Shocking
Just as strange, daughter dyes her hair and does makeup to look just like the new step mom !
I would be hysterical if childrens bodies were found on my parents property. Id be like wtf Dad
I think I'd RUN to the police station with my kids in tow and ask for witness protection, seeing there were other 'devotees' still out there. I'd tell them I didn't want to ever go back home.
As far as getting married you left out the part that they bought their rings and wedding attire prior to Tammy’s passing. That needed to be included in this argument.
The conversations btwn his daughter and him, and Lori and him, the day the bodies were found - all damning. Guilty. No question.
Add to that the text which ties HIM to the burials AT LEAST and he’s toast.
“His worldview and affect are not normal…” you got that right Professor!
He never predicted Lori would spend the rest of her life in prison or that he would be on trial for murder though.
11:00
Chad’s about as charismatic as a piece of wood.
Or a potato 😮
Now now, no need to insult wood.
At the time during the grand jury’s deliberations (I think is when I heard it) one of the lawyers involved said something to the effect of Chad being somewhat of a “dim bulb”. I thought it was hilarious and fitting.
From that phone call, Chad's daughter sounds like a co-conspirator.
Chad left a trail of damning evidence.
Yet he claims to be able to see the future. Lol
They weren’t surprised bodies were found in the yard 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
The professor you have on with you does such an excellent job with defending the defense in this case. Really great, very eloquent and kind, it comes out in his manner. Awesome perspective.
Chad is really the worse. The audacity to take this to trial. Disgusting.
I’m under the impression that religion had to do with his reasoning on this too. Maybe he thinks he’ll be acquitted by divine intervention.
He said, I’m not coming home. He knew what was in his garden. GUILTY !!!
Or maybe he just found out. Alex may have done it because he feared Chad and Lori would set him up as fall guy
@@ivannio8519whaaaat?😂😂😂😂😂
@@astrialindah2773 OK! :) Just an idea that I did think about, but with all other known facts and what we know from the last couple of days.....Chad is 100% in on everything in this case.
He’s daughter didn’t even be surprised wow someone tell they found body’s I be sick to my stomach it disgusting her talking like that she is her dad daughter crazy disgusting
That girl Emma is a weirdo. I think she had knowledge of the murders.
Ugh! And Emma talking abt immediately moving in to a property where dead bodies were found! I could never...
I find it crazy his kids are backing him up, with the children buried on his property is enough for me
Theyre young ,obedient, indoctrinated, and unquestioning. They believe their lying,cheating sociopathic father is innocent.
Her father is a “prophet”. She’s been conditioned to think weird things are normal.
The smell of a burning human body is noxious, just ask a firefighter. There is no way that Tylee could be burned on the property and Chad not know about it. This whole, "it's actually a pasture" excuse to claim Chad did not know is BS. Also, is lack of surprise at being told by Emma that human remains were found just about seals the fact that he knew about it.
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More so the fact that he followed that by saying “I won’t be back”. He knew they got HIM.
He was also covering up a gunshot which the neighbor heard
Facts, 100%.
the neighbours reported a continual burning in dumbells yard
Jesse, I am listening to you and the Professor talk about Chad's Innocence or Guilt.
What sticks with me is Chad telling Lori, "I told him , Not to worry about His Mom.. Jàmes will take care of her" She responded, That was sweet"...
No one talks about that conversation..... 😎😎
What does that mean?
I'm not familiar with this conversation - where did you hear about it? Thanks.
It's in the text messages
The absence of DNA does not exclude -how and where was Tyler dismembered ? How is it they didn’t find Alex’s DNA on JJ? No one has determined place of death for either children.
……and he’s charged with conspiracy murder too
Hey he looks and sounds like a zombie😂😂😂😂😂😂
When I look at Tammy’s eyes..I see love and light…when I look at Lori’s I see darkness and evil. Tammy deserved better than the monster she married..
Perhaps you fell through one of Chad's closet portals...
He also was so lazy while Tammy looked after everything and yet her kids are not fighting for justice for their mom? and tylee and JJ why were his own kids not dark?
@@eliza-uh1sk I think they are fighting. Two daughters are especially vocal in the process.
I just see eyes, part of their physical biology. Nothing more.
It's their minds which determine their actions which you want to watch.
@@eliza-uh1sk Yes exactly, he was always busy writing his crappy pathetic books while she ran the whole show.
Chad Googled the wind direction, texted he was burning a raccoon, no raccoon bones were found only human remains. It doesn't matter if Alex did the deed. It was at the direction of Lori, it was because of Chad's dark rating and it was for Chad and Lori's convenience. When you hire a hitman, you don't have to do the hit, you're just as guilty
I think they unalived Lori brother and got away. With it
Ties up all those loose ends, and it’s too convenient I agree. He’s their alibi and scapegoat
The fact that zulemma wasn’t the one to find dead Alex and all the details of his death tell me that Z did it, and Chad put her up to it.
It's possible, but I think he unalived himself, perhaps the ONE true thing Lori has said thus far. According to Zulema, Alex was starting to wake up to what C&L were up to, and that he was their fall guy. He told her about some details and where money was hidden should something happen to him. Also he went to Mexico the day before he died, to pick up "medicine". Either they talked him into doing it, or he took the cowards way out all on his own, I find the natural death report very hard to believe.
michelleheacock6326 yeh ALL too convenient for Lori and chub, and ALLEGEDLY Zumela was Lori's best friend 😮? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
The only problem I have with this idea is that he had a PE on autopsy, as I recall reading previously. How would you make a PE form? Idk any medication that would do that.
Surely the defense will NOT get him out of this!!!!
What did you say professor? Sometimes common sense must be applied and prevail!
He was ask to defend him. He never said his opinion was what he was defending. He worked the case from the opposite perspective. 😅
I really enjoyed hearing from a lawyer about how he would deal with the mountain of evidence against a defendant. Everyone is entitled to a defense. The next time they find some bodies in my backyard I’m calling him.
😂👍
Chad also texted Tammy about shooting a raccoon with 1 shot then was going to burn limb debri before it hot soaked from the upcoming rain
words matter.
"before the coming storms" -Chad Daybell's text to Tammy
You are aware of what "storm" means to Chad and Lori
If your going to talk about this you need a guest who has watched the trial. No one could bury anyone on Chad's land without him knowing. They showed pictures looking out the windows directly to the Graves from his house.
Completely agree.
This guy is trying to help prior I guess
Zulema testified that Chad told her she had been brutally assaulted (r**ed), killed and dismembered in a previous life. I firmly believe he played out that sick fantasy on Tylee. What those monsters did to such a sweet girl is unforgivable to me. I was so angered during this mornings testimony.
Oh my, I just found out about this case and it is pure evil. I’m not even sure if I want to look into it more..
I'm not sure why you think that Tylie was sweet?? It's not like any of us have any idea of the kind of a girl she was....🙄
@@astrialindah2773 Because young teens are inherantly sweet young and innocent?. She also adored her special needs little brother and she totally doted on him, and she by all accounts was lovely to her other siblings. So yes she was sweet. Why would you even question that fact? Ugh.
@@lululiga333 o k 🤣
@@astrialindah2773 yeah that lowest level ever of human discourse says all about you that anyone would ever need to know.
This cults are so evil
That girl sounds so freaked out and that she also knows more than what she saying... and when she says body he's goes hum...you want to say hum .. about a body....
He took off with his car???????
If Chad didn’t have anything to do with his wife’s death then why all of the text messages between him and Alex from 10:00pm until midnight on the night she died plus Alex phone was pinging at the Salem church down the road from Chads house.
Helena gripped my storm. Omg i laughed so hard. Like really
Y’all forgive me for all of this commenting.😂
I feel the need to comment as the video plays.
When Chad told his daughter, as he was sitting in the police car that he “wouldn’t be back”; don’t they call that “consciousness of guilt”?
4:01 - There IS cell-phone positioning evidence, that shows Chad and Alex TOGETHER at Chad's property for over two hours. They are texting each other before this time period. They are texting each other after this time period. But while their phones are at Chad's property.....................NO TEXTS.
I really wish youtube channels would have their facts straight before going half-cocked.
Chad is chopped and screwed shame on him👿👿👿
This guy is living in la la land
Look at the people around him. They believed he had a portal 😂😂😂. Bunch of weirdos!
As someone who grew up very active in the Mormon church until I was 22 and stopped going (10 years ago), the crap I’ve heard Chad and Laurie saying in recordings, interviews, and portions of his books, I had NEVER heard any of this stuff at church or in the scriptures.
"Limb" double meaning - could be" limb" of tree but more likely "limb" of human, given what we know
They're more than 50+ imo...... he's cooked lul
Ikr? I’m wondering how they narrowed it down to just 5
He guilty
The fact that alex actually worded to zulema his wife, i think chad and lori want me to take the fall for all of this, says to me that he was not the only one who participated in the murders.
If he was the only one committing the act he would be acknowledging, saying things like they want me to confess and leave them out of it or they talked me into doing it and they don't want anyone to know that....
He wouldn't word it they want me to take the fall.
Words are important.
Exactly! Never thought of that 🤔 he wouldn’t have worded it that way if it were just him.
TY Jesse. So great❤. Love your account of these cases
Brilliant reporting as usual Jessie. Well done for ALWAYS being compassionate to your guests and praising where it's well deserved.
26:21
But you CAN’T take everything “in isolation”.
I ❤ ur conversations together ... hes such an interesting man to listen too about any case
That lawyer seems batty….it doesn’t surprise me that he’s in Utah. I don’t suppose he’s heard of the word “accessory” before, which means CD is as guilty as Cox and Vallow, whether there’s DNA or anything on the bodies or not…. *they were buried on HIS property, ffs!*
You understand that he’s just doing his job, and has an impossible case. What exactly did you expect, for him to just do this for the entire trial: 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I agree!
Wow, he had a portal in his house?
Then why did he take off in his car when things got complicated? Must've forgotten about it for a sec, I suppose... 😏
Excellent episode of Side bar!
The only portals I know is where you will find demons!!!
Yep, that’s what I was taught
Chad is going to be found guilty if he’s was smart he should just plead guilty and get life cause if the jury find him guilty which they are he’s getting the death penalty
We all thought OJ was guilty and he got away with it. There’s always the possibility of a mistrial or not guilty.
Don’t be so quick to assume that. Casey Anthony went free ONKY because the death penalty was in the table and the jury thought she was most likely guilty but didn’t wanna send her to death row on a “probably”. And they weren’t given a choice to send her to prison for life so they let her go free instead. Jodi arias also was found guilty for butchering her BF and yet the jury decided not to give her the DP. So this isn’t over till it’s over.
Actually I think a jury is much less likely to vote guilty when the death penalty is involved.
I can’t imagine what Tammy’s last thought were, and the children knowing their lives are taken from their own family!
How would they burn Tylee's body and nobody smelled it? Seems like it would stink for a long time. That's a very pungent, unique odor, you'd think the house would stink for a while. Wouldn't Tammy smell it when she came home from work?
There was a report from a neighbor but he mysteriously died from an PE. Very Sus
From what I gather, he lived in a large corner lot with no other houses close on at least 2 sides. Also Chad was searching wind directions for that day. Idk how far that smell would travel, but it sounds like the wind pushed the smoke away from neighboring houses
Tammy died earlier
@@ritaranee4787 No, Tylee died before Tammy did. Tylee was killed in September, Tammy died October 9, I think.
@@JaneSmith0709 Tammy was shot at on Oct 9, she was killed Oct 19.
I would say guilty after listening to the recording! I’d sleep the rest of the trial!
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Great show Jesse!!
It was the raccoon comment that clued them in to make the search.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
I'm with you on the fact that Lorihor didn't have a shocked reaction when Chub said the property was being searched. She knew the call was being recorded. It also sounds to me like Emma is a Mini Me of Chub. No shock or surprise. Really?? How much does she know? Was she a "loyal follower" of her father? Also, Emma seems to be OK with Lorihor. I thought the kids were very upset by the sudden re-marriage of their dad. Now it seems that Emma is fine with it. I think she drank her father's Kool-Aid. She knows more.
Haha, yes I believe you are right and she did drink her dad’s koolaid. Did anyone notice that “chubs” own daughter didn’t call him daddy? But some one else did? One of his female followers. I can’t think of her name. It was totally weird I thought.
@@SJR559 It was Melanice!
I’m f you stitch together the location of the accused, communication between the defendants which are facts in evidence , opportunity, these types of conversations , the evidence found in HI -circumstantially sufficient.
The stone in their wedding rings. They all have symptoms of that stone or Alex and Tammy poisoning. Wonder if there was testing for that?
I still can't believe anyone bought into Chad's BS.
Wow I didn’t hear the part about Chad saying JJ was going to die. 😮
And he’s tools has no dna either it suspect but he used gloves
He also could have gotten rid of the tools / weapons that were used in the murders.
Tammy had a beautiful smile.
That day they put chad in the police car they actually didn't arrest him or charge him they onlydetained him he was talking to his daughter as if he was charged with murder he basically told her im going away for a long time so in that video he basically said he was gulity
Great coverage!
Would Prior really want a hung jury? Would he really want to go through another trial?? I think Prior must watch out for that portal in "his house".
😂
Chad was the one that said they were dark. He wanted rid of them, along with Lori. They are laughing about it. Evil.
Don't help the defense!
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In that conversation with Lori, when law enforcement was searching his property, his demeanor said a lot. HE KNEW it was like playing the "hot and cold" game when they were there...they were getting closer and closer and that is the reason he was seating in his car watching them and he attempted to flee.
“ storm “ coming for Chaddy boy
This guy is kidding if he thinks there’s reasonable doubt? Give me a break. Big eye roll.
Great show!
Chad was home making sure his family was busy with something that kept them from going outside.
Professor Epstein, I commend you for playing devils advocate. Great job. 👍🏻👍🏻🫶🏻😎
How did he get away without doing an autopsy - it was an unattended death?
My understanding is that the county did not have a coroner on staff anyway so it was easiest for everyone. They would’ve had to send her to the State Coroner.
@lilnikki do you think they were planning on doing Zulema in also,but just didn't get time to carry it out?
Oh yes but i dont think Alex could do it he try but coulnt when he had Suzlma on the tarp on the bed .That scared her why?? She thought why??
Chad did not want his name on Tammys headstone ????? PS this professor is the example ofthe nutty professor
Even with the professor's defense theories, there's no way the jury would overlook so much evidence. The idea that "well, sometimes people are weird" could make up for a clear pattern of behavior is impossible.
Why is he eligible for the death penalty and Lori wasn't?
Let's see. He was present when Tammy was murdered, the bodies of two murdered children were located on his property, phone records prove he was at the burial sites with Alex, he was the person that deemed these murdered people dark...
He waived his right to a speedy trial
There was a mistake with filings or something in Lori's trial cos they wanted to hit her with the DP too
In the case of Lori, Judge Steven Boyce ruled in favor of a motion to dismiss from the defence:
"The court concludes here that as an appropriate discovery sanction, the state will be precluded from seeking the death penalty at trial, and the state's May 2, 2022, notice of intent to seek the death penalty will be stricken."
The judge added;
"To be clear, the court does not impose the sanction to penalize the state but rather to ensure the constitutional right of the defendant is protected, allowing for a reasonable defense to be prepared for this trial"
Was Chad's portal UPSTAIRS in the Cozy Cone where he looked over Tylee and JJs bodies ... so, were the children sacrificed to power Chad's portal? IMO
He obviously guilty
It’s consistent enough but would consider the entire cult deluded
Is that a Vonnegut painting behind him?!
Cultured Choad
He has no remorse.
His own kids sound so monotone and brain washed whereas tylee was described as funny lively chatty. Both tylee and JJ would have been too much for him and he didn't want to deal with them..tylee saw right through him. I hope they throw the book at this evil monster and zombie man.. jmo
Don’t forget,Alexand Zulema we’re only married a few weeks