Mark interviews Doctor who organised Rave in the Nave Protest at CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL

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  • @Apriluser
    @Apriluser 10 місяців тому +58

    As an American Anglican, I am ashamed of the profane use of this sacred place. Thanks to all who prayed against this event!

    • @susanpower-q5q
      @susanpower-q5q 10 місяців тому +4

      More than prayer is required Our Divine Lord makes clear he accepts no prayers without ACTION/By you acts you will be judged
      Legal Action for SACRILEGE

    • @Apriluser
      @Apriluser 10 місяців тому

      @@susanpower-q5q
      Please tell us Scripture references for your statement.

    • @brjimbo1
      @brjimbo1 10 місяців тому +4

      Me also. Sort of an antithetical exercise. Hopefully we can learn something from this. Does the C of E really think this is a positive role for Holy places?

    • @johnjon1823
      @johnjon1823 10 місяців тому +3

      Mankind should be ashamed, about that and much much more.

  • @philipdorling1577
    @philipdorling1577 10 місяців тому +37

    As an Anglican Clergyman who was schooled at the King's School in Canterbury, and who was deeply touched and inspired by singing often at services in the Cathedral, I want to thank this man and his friends for their courageous witness yesterday. This precious place is entrusted to the stewardship of the Dean and Chapter. It is not theirs to profane. When I visit my parents in Canterbury I feel that I can no longer look at it... let alone visit the tombs and altars of my relatives who are buried there...
    I currently minister in Cumbria, so could not be with these Christians yesterday, but would have been, had I been in Canterbury. I am heart sore and grieved to think that this has happened, and will happen again tonight. Doubtless discos like this will become a regular 'date' in Canterbury's social calendar in years to come. I am ashamed to think about the whole thing.
    Mark is correct. A community of like minded Christian laity and prophetic clergy does need to gather and pray and mobilise to show people everywhere that some of us do actually care.

    • @amandasmith3716
      @amandasmith3716 10 місяців тому +1

      I bought up the wokeness of the CofE to the vicar at ChristChurch Herne Bay and when I saw him next he turned his back on me. I told him I stand with Rev Calvin Robinson.

  • @stephengarratt5076
    @stephengarratt5076 10 місяців тому +49

    This is just unbelievable..
    Ancient sacred buildings desecrated..

  • @sandraelder1101
    @sandraelder1101 10 місяців тому +78

    They should give it back to the Catholics.

    • @Apriluser
      @Apriluser 10 місяців тому +7

      As an Anglican, I would almost agree with you if this continues!

    • @valwhelan3533
      @valwhelan3533 10 місяців тому +4

      True, that

    • @bertibear1300
      @bertibear1300 10 місяців тому

      Pope isn’t any better though.I don’t think either church is Christian anymore.

    • @annawild7117
      @annawild7117 10 місяців тому +1

      It is the faithful that make the church not the Pope, bad popes don't last. And God uses even them (a wake up call) for His good. God bless.

    • @jamesaustin1988
      @jamesaustin1988 10 місяців тому +1

      St. Stephen's Roman Catholic Cathedral in Vienna had a rock climbing wall in it's nave, don't know if they're any better.

  • @jimkeating5610
    @jimkeating5610 10 місяців тому +15

    Psalm 81, yesterdays liturgy, "My people heard not my voice, and Israel obeyed me not; So I gave them up to the hardness of their hearts;
    they walked according to their own counsels." Thank you for the petition and organising the protest. God Bless

  • @clareg845
    @clareg845 9 місяців тому +1

    So Blasphemous !! Well done and bless you for your brave stance against this outrageous, event. This is also the season of Lent. !!!!!! I wish there were more people like you. may God Bless and protect you, and may Our Blessed Lady take care of you and your family,

  • @angelamalek
    @angelamalek 10 місяців тому +43

    Make Canterbury Cathedral Catholic again!

    • @jamesaustin1988
      @jamesaustin1988 10 місяців тому +2

      The Archdiocese of Liverpool had a pride mass, and St. Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna had a Rock Climbing wall in the nave. I don't know if they'd take better care of it.

    • @angelamalek
      @angelamalek 10 місяців тому

      @@jamesaustin1988 Sadly.

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 10 місяців тому

      It’s time. If the Anglicans can’t do Christianity properly it’s time they gave the Catholics their Cathedrals back!

    • @jqa16
      @jqa16 10 місяців тому

      it is catholic

    • @amandasmith3716
      @amandasmith3716 10 місяців тому +3

      @@jqa16no it isn’t it’s Anglican and home to the Archbishop of woke.

  • @tamc1766
    @tamc1766 10 місяців тому +3

    SHOCKING !!!!!! SIGN OF THE TIMES !!!!! LEADERSHIP NEEDS TO REPENT !!!! OR FACE THE JUDGEMENT!!!! THE GOSPEL NEEDS TO BE PREACHED !!!!

  • @hannahjones8992
    @hannahjones8992 10 місяців тому +7

    I attended a Christmas concert in Chester Cathederal last December, and was horrified at what it turned out to be. I went as an invited guest of other family members, who had expected it to be a concert of genuine traditional Christmas songs, carols etc, all performed by candlelight. Instead there was an extremely loud rock concert, with people dancing in the aisles and bringing in alcohol,and the band performing directly underneath the statue of Jesus hanging on the cross 🤮

  • @johnfisher247
    @johnfisher247 10 місяців тому +30

    I know Canterbury well. Canon Brett was a particularly good man. That cathedral has been defiled at various timed. During the deformation a lunatic townsman got a ladder and poked stained windows out with a pole. During the civil war In 1642-1643, during the English Civil War, Puritan iconoclasts led by Edwin Sandys (Parliamentarian) caused significant damage during to the cathedral.
    This is more of the same defilement.
    A house of prayer or temple of God used like a sewer.
    There are kings, saints, monks and our ancestors who worshiped and are buried in the cathedral. On every level is a disrespectful example of treason to Christ and his Church.
    As for ecumenism clearly the Dean doesn't care about Catholic and Orthodox relations or sacrality.
    How much is the Dean being paid per year? Often the stipend is a food trough for decadent clergy!
    Yes they could have used the great courtyard adjacent the school of ever the lawned area in front of the cathedral near the great gate house.
    I might add Cardinal Pell offered Mass there not so long ago.
    The Church of England is sinking to new lows of profanity. I will feel grubby entering that nave and looking at the statue of St Augustine of Canterbury on the pulpit, whose prayers we invoke to drive people like the Dean out of his job!
    If walls could speak. What the barbarians could not do the Dean of Canterbury and his cross dressing companion have done. Betraying Jesus with a dance.

  • @Johnburggy
    @Johnburggy 10 місяців тому +13

    Thank you so much for speaking out. In the Church of England we were much like the RC Church & our buildings were set aside as not only a place of Peace & Prayer but also as the house of God . This was desecration of worse kind. Do Cof E no longer read the Bible & what happened when Jesus overturned the tables of the money lenders in the temple ! While it costs money to maintain & run our ancient Churches & Cathedrals doing this profane thing is evil. Does not the dreadful Cof E see what damage has already been done & they have lost so many faithful without adding to it.

  • @PsychicIsaacs
    @PsychicIsaacs 10 місяців тому +10

    I'm not a Catholic, but dancing on the graves of Holy Men and in the Footsteps of Pilgrims is never acceptable!
    This is completely disgusting and utterly inexcusable!

  • @tomthx5804
    @tomthx5804 10 місяців тому +27

    The most important point from this discussion is that the laity are on their own. Bishops refuse to cause a ripple, no matter what, and they have vows of obedience - even if the bishop does evil things. If the church is to be set right, the laity are the only ones who can do it.

    • @ashwin4319-u9j
      @ashwin4319-u9j 10 місяців тому +5

      Yes, we the laity who have the common priesthood need to step up and speak to correct the institutional priesthood that has gone astray.

    • @daddycool228
      @daddycool228 10 місяців тому

      Get rid of the Bishops

  • @johncollins8304
    @johncollins8304 10 місяців тому +11

    Well done you all.

  • @conscience333
    @conscience333 10 місяців тому +7

    Well done for your efforts, only God knows how many hearts and minds your actions touched. I'm sure it's more than you think. God bless

  • @JacquelineNiffikeer-Robb-lo2gq
    @JacquelineNiffikeer-Robb-lo2gq 10 місяців тому +1

    Dear Cajetan, you are such an inspiration. Thank you for standing up for what is right and just. I am bereft at what has been allowed to happen in this most sacred place. I have written to the Dean regarding this but sadly I got very little sense of compassion towards those of us who feel this is fundamentally wrong. The sad thing though is that I truly believe he knows this is an act of sacrilege but cannot voice this, as he, like the chief executive of a company, has to balance the books, at any cost it would seem. What moral compass is the C of E following!

  • @lcunningham1776
    @lcunningham1776 10 місяців тому +10

    Should have bought all the tickets,
    Showed up with your Rosaries,
    Went in, knelt down and prayed
    a full Rosary together.
    Then they would have the money for up keep. And you would have blessed the cathedral with prayer instead of partying.

  • @patricknunan7097
    @patricknunan7097 10 місяців тому +9

    Great interview Mark!

  • @jamesbland7183
    @jamesbland7183 10 місяців тому +15

    Well done Sir

  • @declancooney1029
    @declancooney1029 10 місяців тому +8

    I was about to ask the present custodians to hand the Cathedral back to the Church (not just the OldusOrdo/NuvoOrdo wing....just Catholic !!) but when I heard only 20 brave faithful souls turned up (I thanks those who prayed from a distance because they couldn't physically go!!) maybe we do not deserve God's grace as a lukewarm Body of Christ. God bless you young man and your family. You are a great man and Christian.

  • @veronica_._._._
    @veronica_._._._ 10 місяців тому +10

    Quite a scoop, thanks to you both, positive action.🕯️✝️🕯️

  • @TheOrthodoxPunjabi
    @TheOrthodoxPunjabi 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for your work, you have the support of an Eastern Orthodox christian!

  • @javierv333
    @javierv333 10 місяців тому +14

    I like this line ery much: we lay people dont have to be diplomatic

  • @MrRRHHMM
    @MrRRHHMM 10 місяців тому +2

    The C of E now shows us.. who and what they truly are.. Their wonton desecration and blasphemy vs the Divine and Humanity, only ever one outcome, and May Gods Pure Love Bless Us All..

  • @dianewatts8841
    @dianewatts8841 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, we support you, Women for life, Faith and Family, Canada

  • @elizabethhfyh
    @elizabethhfyh 10 місяців тому +4

    So wonderful. If I'd known about it I would have signed the petition. Hurrah for Tom the Anglican.

  • @murphyorama
    @murphyorama 10 місяців тому +17

    Would the dean allow a catholic mass in the cathedral?

    • @johnjon1823
      @johnjon1823 10 місяців тому +8

      Wow. Now that would be a great idea. Imagine the crowd you might get if you could do it on Becket's feast day! After all, if the pope let the clowns do play practice in a Catholic church, at least they could reciprocate. Somebody should ask for it.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 10 місяців тому

      The pope doesn't do that​@@johnjon1823

    • @marklambert5232
      @marklambert5232 10 місяців тому +6

      A while back I went to a Catholic Mass at Rochester Cathedral. The lady vicar looked utterly perplexed at the hoards of children and young family that swamped the place.

    • @TP-om8of
      @TP-om8of 10 місяців тому +6

      Actually, before pandemic the Latin Mass society was known to celebrate a Tridentine mass in the cathedral-but the *Catholic* diocese (Southwark) insisted that it could not be advertised in Catholic parishes!
      Every year on Dec 29 the local catholic parish has a vespers in the cathedral crypt (the feast if St Thomas).
      They’ve also had catholic vespers in the cathedral at other times…and I attended a Mass (NO) offered there by Cardinal Pell in 2015.

    • @TP-om8of
      @TP-om8of 10 місяців тому +1

      @@johnjon1823 Catholic vespers dine by local catholic parish there on that very day; it’s been going on for years

  • @Lyle-ke4ex
    @Lyle-ke4ex 10 місяців тому +5

    Thank you making this Public Blessings Lyle+

  • @marilynmelzian7370
    @marilynmelzian7370 10 місяців тому +1

    I really like and admire this young man.

  • @amymargaretabigail
    @amymargaretabigail 10 місяців тому +3

    Canterbury Cathedral needs a tabernacle .. containing Our Lord Jesus in the Eucharist.

  • @leomullins
    @leomullins 10 місяців тому +11

    The "abomination of desolation"...

    • @andrewpearson1903
      @andrewpearson1903 10 місяців тому +1

      Time to flee to the mountains (the Catholic Church)

  • @thecrazyenglishman1066
    @thecrazyenglishman1066 10 місяців тому +3

    The gate was open years ago when churches started to open their doors to concerts, including classical, which though is very nice is still just entertainment. We must not forget that the Protestant, Schismatic congregation have no Blessed Sacrament, no valid Orders and no Apostolic Authority. Canterbury Cathedral was stolen from the One Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church. Maybe a Petition to Transfer the Relics of Saint Thomas to Westminster Cathedral. I am not saying that present day Anglicans are all Schismatics for most did not deliberately choose to go out from the One True Church, however God is showing them that the weak foundation, built on sand, is crumbling . Come Home dear Anglicans, we miss you very much.

  • @mafakefoot
    @mafakefoot 10 місяців тому +1

    thank you for a wonderful podcast My prayers put me at Canterbury with you

  • @christopherfleming7505
    @christopherfleming7505 10 місяців тому +7

    I am inclined to think they should just give it back to the Catholic Church the anglicans stole it from 500 years ago. But then I think of all the crazy stuff that catholic-in-name-only bishops do these days, and I honestly don't think that would solve much. Our Lady of Sorrows, pray for England!

  • @SusanLangridge
    @SusanLangridge 10 місяців тому +5

    Sorry had to say this as well as my other comment. Respect!!Think good parents would say to their children "you can have friends round etc,but respect our family house". Surely then our Jesus would say the same "please come pray in my house,but please please don't disrespect it". Wendy (canon)wants to say "oh my mum doesn't mind,she is fine,come just don't spill any wine!!ha ha" This sadly is how I see it. I have sent a strong,but kind 😇 e mail to The Bishop of Dover (probably won't do any good!oh well. Wished I could have been there to protest x

  • @muokwuestanley
    @muokwuestanley 10 місяців тому +6

    Modernism and Rationalization at its peak

  • @Kitiwake
    @Kitiwake 10 місяців тому +8

    Thomas Becket was a real Catholic bishop. He was no Thomas Creamer.

  • @renaewalker7071
    @renaewalker7071 10 місяців тому +3

    Bravo!

  • @ilauvu
    @ilauvu 10 місяців тому +3

    imagine if this was a mosque, or a Synagogue , or a buddhist temple …..

  • @dermotosullivan3065
    @dermotosullivan3065 10 місяців тому +11

    Unfortunately, many cathedrals nowadays are used mostly as museums. Most of the footfall is from tourists.

    • @giuliakhawaja7929
      @giuliakhawaja7929 10 місяців тому +2

      Visiting Salisbury Cathedral recently. Plenty of people came in for evensong on a weekday. Cathedral was packed for The Messiah before Christmas. No reason to think other cathedrals are any different.

  • @butseekfirsthiskingdom2641
    @butseekfirsthiskingdom2641 10 місяців тому +5

    These kids are playing with fire. I know someone who desecrated sacred ground thinking nothing of it and died a most horrible death two years later not having repented of anything. Just giving you a heads up.

    • @BloodwyrmWildheart
      @BloodwyrmWildheart 10 місяців тому

      Christianity is also guilty of desecrating sacred ground.

  • @matthewstokes1608
    @matthewstokes1608 10 місяців тому +8

    As an OKS Anglican - now old and living in Mexico - I am appalled and sickened by the leaders of our Church.
    All I can think of saying is “what the hell is going on in the Church of England?”…
    If this is the state of play then I also wish it could be returned to the RC Church.
    I feel nauseous…
    The country itself has fallen - and looking at the perverted beahviour of its Church, is there any wonder?

  • @docastrov9013
    @docastrov9013 10 місяців тому +4

    It was sacrilegious. Henry VII is buried there. Would they rave over Queen Elizabeth II grave?

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC 10 місяців тому +2

    The desecration of the shrine of St Thomas and the House of God. God will not be mocked.

  • @adeodata6364
    @adeodata6364 10 місяців тому +3

    I don't understand your title, but thanks for this. Sad times.

  • @bertibear1300
    @bertibear1300 10 місяців тому +3

    This is horrible.How low can this England fall?
    If I had been nearby I would have prayed with you.
    Christianity is under attack as it is so'powerful

  • @joannekissick-jones6462
    @joannekissick-jones6462 10 місяців тому +4

    On a separate point, I wonder if you have considered how this reflects onto King Charles. After the new sovereign was anointed on his head, hands and heart with holy oil consecrated in Jerusalem, as a symbol of his divine right to rule. In common with his predecessors for almost 500 years, Charles takes the titles of defender of the faith and supreme governor of the Church of England.
    I wonder how His Majesty feels about the responses of shock from the world to this event? After all, he has been Patron to the Temenos Academy for many years:
    ua-cam.com/video/PGt4Dap303Q/v-deo.htmlsi=YsCp5z39jJhHDHIs
    Was it even considered how this looks to other cultures during this time in our world?

  • @andrewvavuris8789
    @andrewvavuris8789 10 місяців тому +3

    Well done!

    • @kbeetles
      @kbeetles 10 місяців тому

      t? What on earth is t??

    • @andrewvavuris8789
      @andrewvavuris8789 10 місяців тому

      @@kbeetles
      Serves me right for texting with my left hand!

  • @piping9153
    @piping9153 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the information ❤

  • @philliphamilton3591
    @philliphamilton3591 10 місяців тому +8

    This is a pure desecration of our sacred place. Welby, resign, you are a total disgrace.

  • @johnperkins7401
    @johnperkins7401 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Mark and Hugh for organising the Vigil

  • @stephenpaulwilson
    @stephenpaulwilson 10 місяців тому +3

    Insane 😔

  • @tco13v
    @tco13v 10 місяців тому +4

    Remember the joke, "My body is a temple I rent out on weekends"? Seems like the temple is being rented out for a place of commerce!

  • @lukesumpter7416
    @lukesumpter7416 10 місяців тому +5

    The Church isn't a carnival or fairground. It shouldn't have to depend on money from tourists to survive. That surely wasn't the case since Canterbury was built up until recently. It should be able to survive based off a faithful laity that tithe what they can. Sadly, that isn't possibly, because the CoE are declining; they've essentially apostatised and have removed the sense of the sacred and tradition from the church. Their plan to evangelise the youth by becoming more worldly has backfired and was both illogical and heretical from the start.

  • @estebanmoeller
    @estebanmoeller 10 місяців тому

    Where was the interview to the organizer?

  • @TP-om8of
    @TP-om8of 10 місяців тому +3

    This “silent disco” was stupid but not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. One of my neighbours (Irish born, non practicing Catholic) said he was thinking of going. Far more scandalous is appointing an openly gay man as cathedral dean, for example.
    The cathedral often has profane events….Ian Anderson did a gif there a few years back. What do you expect from the C of E?

  • @julianchase95
    @julianchase95 10 місяців тому +1

    Please can you put up this gentleman’s name?

  • @IamNotanumber-z3j
    @IamNotanumber-z3j 10 місяців тому

    I love a good rave , I love to pray and understand the sacred spaces of god . Both should not be in the same place .

  • @thomasvanantwerp728
    @thomasvanantwerp728 10 місяців тому

    Was this rave a fundraiser? If so, for what cause specifically?

  • @fritula6200
    @fritula6200 10 місяців тому +5

    WHOLE OF ENGLAND , WALES, AND SCOTLAND; ALL WERE ROMAN CATHOLIC
    .

    • @Apriluser
      @Apriluser 10 місяців тому

      Actually, we were all part if the undivided Church.

  • @DariaAmato-wz2xg
    @DariaAmato-wz2xg 10 місяців тому +3

    There is classical music which is considered liturgical. But most music that would be played at a rave would not be in keeping with worship. Might I Paraphrase hell/handbasket

  • @tiamdaeoconghail7770
    @tiamdaeoconghail7770 10 місяців тому +1

    👍

  • @BinkyTheElf1
    @BinkyTheElf1 10 місяців тому +4

    Dancing on graves for 30 pieces of silver, whilst playing ungodly music? Worse than people buying & selling in the Jerusalem Temple Courts in the time of Jesus, updated for 2024? Shame on the Dean, and the Anglican leader Welby.

  • @thomasmooney5653
    @thomasmooney5653 9 місяців тому +1

    A pen of beeves😮

  • @benjoewri
    @benjoewri 10 місяців тому +3

    Canon Wendy memes incoming.
    "Don't recognise that Christ".
    Ridiculous.

  • @glenyscallaghan1195
    @glenyscallaghan1195 10 місяців тому +2

    He has obviously lost the plot. It would seem that they want to destroy the Church.🙏🏻

  • @fritula6200
    @fritula6200 10 місяців тому +2

    WHAT ABOUT THE LAW OF GOD ????

  • @michielvanasten3021
    @michielvanasten3021 10 місяців тому +2

    Why would someone in their 40 s go to a rave? They are probably divorced, have abandoned their children.. it makes it worse really. The prayers however are a fruitful way of ecumenism.

  • @Test_Card_Tom
    @Test_Card_Tom 10 місяців тому

    I'm not C of E or follow the Christian religion and the only thing I can think of that would be worse than holding a disco in the Cathedral woud be to hold a disco in a cemetery. Buildings have a purpose and a Cathedral's purpose isn't for holding a disco in.

  • @BinkyTheElf1
    @BinkyTheElf1 10 місяців тому +1

    “Canon Wendy” = Wendy Dalrymple, tattooed Canon (exemplary clergy worthy of emulation). 🙄

  • @shelleyphilcox4743
    @shelleyphilcox4743 10 місяців тому +1

    Churches and cathedrals should be embedded in community life and service of the church to the community. Was the music itself obnoxious, full of lewd lyrics, incitement to sin, swear words? Was the dancing deeply lewd? Were there drugs present or fighting?
    Would you be having the same conversation if it was a classical music concert with a string orchestra or morris dancers?

  • @MsMounen
    @MsMounen 9 місяців тому

    How can a person he a canon, but not a biblical scholar?

  • @truthoverlies1820
    @truthoverlies1820 10 місяців тому

    THE WEST HAS TRULY FALLEN! KALI YUGA

  • @susanpower-q5q
    @susanpower-q5q 10 місяців тому

    Someone just removed my comment about the Fearful Judge

  • @abcdeshole
    @abcdeshole 10 місяців тому +1

    It's so boomerish to desecrate churches.

  • @jillatherton4660
    @jillatherton4660 10 місяців тому +1

    CoE: Godless.

  • @RickMoreau
    @RickMoreau 10 місяців тому +1

    I thought this was supposed to be about Dr. Who.

  • @danmartin5495
    @danmartin5495 10 місяців тому

    Rome Catholic church ( small c) isn’t very far behind Francis and company would love to have been there. Wake up people return to the traditional Roman Catholic faith!

  • @dawnhallier9172
    @dawnhallier9172 10 місяців тому +3

    Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

  • @debrasaints3809
    @debrasaints3809 10 місяців тому +2

    Sounds like something the Pope would approve of since he’s trying so hard to Anglicize the one true faith which is Catholic!

  • @boonedlism1650
    @boonedlism1650 9 місяців тому

    "Promosm" 🏃

  • @AnthonyJones-vk6xq
    @AnthonyJones-vk6xq 10 місяців тому

    Augustine did not bring Christianity to England, the original habitants of Britain already knew the word of GOD, we did not want to be told by Rome what to do and did not wish to be placed under the authority of the Vatican!
    So they refused and for that they were massacred at Bangor, 1200 of the finest scholars and monks of their day being put to the sword.
    If you know your history this was the reason Henry 8th of Welsh (British) Tudor stock decided to kick the catholics and their papal authority out of Britain !

    • @julieelizabeth4856
      @julieelizabeth4856 9 місяців тому

      Then why did Henry VIII want so badly to have approval of the pope, and of Sts. Thomas More and John Fisher, for his divorce and remarriage? He didn't get it, so that's when he kicked them out (or beheaded them).

  • @Lyra-ul5lx
    @Lyra-ul5lx 10 місяців тому

    Disgusting.

  • @giuliakhawaja7929
    @giuliakhawaja7929 10 місяців тому +4

    Rave in the NAVE surely? And it’s abhorrent.

  • @thomasvanantwerp728
    @thomasvanantwerp728 10 місяців тому

    Was this rave a fundraiser? If so, for what cause specifically?