@Opaz Finally made the F1 system purchase. So far, very nice, loud, and clear system. I'm very satisfied with my purchase. I didn't bother with the 8, 16, or 32 because I already knew from an SPL perspective, the F1 system was superior. It's unfortunate that the 32 didn't live up to your expectations. Here in the US, the F1 system is cheaper than the 32 at $2k per stack. While the F1 might be a bit heavier than the 32, I am still able to put it together and tear it down with no help.
@@TheDj8X I got rid of my F1/ 812 system and bought Evolve 50's. I know own 4 and two 1200 watt 12 inch subs if I really want extra bottom end. For the price, you can't beat the Evolve 50 IMO
I sold my Evolve 50's and purchased the L1 PRO 32 with Sub 2 (2 units) and let me tell you, it was the best decision I made, I love the sound and bass on these BOSE speakers, I get lots of compliments on the sound and people just keep staring at them like "Wow that's the sound that comes out of those things? " lol I'm extremely happy with my purchase and I would buy them again.
You're right. I also have 2 sets of L1 Pro 32- Sub2 They sound and look great, As for the bass - if you have the right mixer and some knowledge, you can easily deal with rumbling
They sound good but are way overpriced for what you get. It’s about the value you get at the end of the day. They could have been engineered a lot better to be honest. 3 grand and the controls on the floor don’t have covers ? Give me a break that’s one spilled drink recipe for disaster.
Great review, thanks. I have an L1 compact and have been thinking about upgrading. I'm a solo acoustic guy playing bars/restaurants and such. But the compact just doesn't push a lot of low end on outside decks and environments. Was looking at the pro32 because it must be the best, right? I think I'll look at a 16 next. Not in a hurry, doing the research...
hi my friend im wondering if can you help me ive got the BOSE l1 pro8 and pro 16 my main contention is im getting microphone volume fade on all three models i cant understand whats going on i was realy a big fan of BOSE now im going off them i never had this problem with my old gear i swapped for bose what could be causing this please let me know Chris
I love my L1 pro32, I run two of them with 2 sub2s or even with one or two more subs. I love the ease of setup. I’m sure other systems you mentioned are good too. To my ears the sound of L1 pro32 is unmatched sound quality. My ears are done with most other PA speakers.
One year later from this upload, I am reading in many comments that previous L1 system owners that now have the Pro32, prefer the sound quality of their older L1. The L1M2 especially. They agree the pro32 is louder but lacking in sound quality
@@opaz. I never had L1M2 so cannot compare but just this last weekend I used a pair of L1PRO32 for a 250 people event & multiple people came up to me and told me after the event that they really loved the sound quality. Some even took down the names of the system.
Ha! I love your comment about the covers. The L1M2’s came with more premium cases. The cases for the top and base are pretty good though where is the pocket for the cables? The Sub2 cover is a joke. The B1 and B2 came with a thicker waterproof cover that though isn’t padded still feels premium. Definitely right on the Sub2. It’s not matched well. Some songs it sounds amazing, others it’s muddy and doesn’t sound right. I think part of this is the smaller drivers. The columns don’t get as low as the M2. I think this is so they can get better mixing of two systems and get highs above 16kHz unlike the M2. Unfortunately that means the Sub 2 handles higher frequencies than the B1/B2 had to and is a bigger driver. I’m. It sold on the racetrack either. There is a reason speakers are round. The sub match cable seems to send very little info to the column. The app and dsp ability is severely lacking. No parametric eq? No options for one Sub2 vs 2? I know you’re against getting the T4S mixer but I’m sort of ok with it if it fixes the issues. Here’s the thing, the T4S works on the M2 and Pro series and doesn’t have different eq’s for each so it doesn’t change a thing. It gives you a one band parametric eq, but that’s not much. Except a few more outputs and another tone match port it’s the same mixer as the T1. Also none of the Tonematch scenes have been updated in 15 years, they’re the same ones on the T1 mixer I have and very few. Hope you have Taylor guitars and Audix mics.
Thanks for your reviews. One main reason I’d might be interested about this pro 32, is the weight. I think it’s the lightest, especially the sub 1. Do you know another column brand with enough power and a light sub ?
Hi what would you recommend for a PA system for a church that sits about 120 people? We mainly use it for preaching and one vocalist. We tried the l1 pro8 and it way too weak.Thank you!
Would you say the SUB2 with ist price tag of ~1200€ is also not worth the money? It is the smallest SUB with 1000watt power down to 37Hz ( I just drive a very small car & my basic PA System fills already the trunk - But I am not sure if it is worth the money, Sometime this just says that it can waste so much ernergy, but it is not going to deliver them and maybe a 500w Behringer B1200D-PRO can deliver the same audio experice.
The sub does not suit/match the 32 column, not necessarily that the sub is a waste of money. The sub alone may fulfil all of your needs/requirements. You will definitely need to demo both subs as the price/performance balance is crucial here
Hi, I am a solo acoustic performer, running vocals and acoustic guitar, along with my loop pedal. I recently purchased a bose l1 pro 16. The Outdoor the sound is incredible, couldn’t be happier…. however in a loud party room with no more than 100 people, I crank the volume up and the sound becomes weirdly muddy, almost distorted and feels like it’s sending more of the sound to the subwoofer. I have messed around with lowering the bass to almost as low as it can go and I can’t get rid of the muddy bass-like sound at high volumes. Are you able to offer me advice?Is it possible I have a faulty product or do I just need to work on my EQing?? Thanks James
Sorry to hear that you're experiencing problems James. A few questions. How many times has this happened?, has it been since purchase or just lately? Does this happen in smaller rooms or also in larger rooms?
I gather from most comments people seem to be DJs. I bought this from a singer and a 5 piece band perspective. I have used and heard many PAs. This one is good, lots of volume and clarity. Glad I bought the Tonematch along with it as amazing. Only negatives for me is the vulnerability of the design in wild drunken venues as the column wobbles when touched and the floor panel is easily splashed at floor level with drinks. If a sensible crowd and nice wedding and events this piece of equipment is brilliant as light weight and sounds amazing.
So I watched your video when you first unboxed the Bose pro32 sub2's shortly before I bought the Bose 32 sub2's. I've used the system at about 6 larger events (I DJ weddings) Your points are valid. It does not sound as good as the other L1 systems (I have owned them all) The system is MUCH MUCH LOUDER though. It WILL fill a large room with good sound. It WILL Cut through a crowd to the back of a packed dance floor, something other L1 systems could not do. I do high end weddings and it looks AWESOME. That is important to me (and to my clients and planners I work with). It's a BREEZE to set up! Almost as easy as my Evolve 50 speakers which I use most of the time. The subs are EASY to transport. I'm 60 and that is important..for a sub that size it puts out A LOT of bass. Is it the best bass? No, but my clients are not audiophiles. It booms and that's all they care about. Are they over priced? Yup, but there is nothing else like them and they work extremely well for the type of events I do. It took 3 weddings to pay for them both so the cost was not a major factor. No they are far from perfect. Would I buy them again if I had it to do all over again? I'm not sure..probably. I like your videos!
Cheers Mark, thanks for your very valuable comments, much appreciated. Unfortunately I may be selling mine, like you I also have an evolve so light and easy to set up (also not perfect but not 3k). Got a buyer for my 32's, seriously thinking about it 🤔
Hi Mark, Hello, I'm waiting until after the pandemic to start my wedding DJ career. With two Bose L1 Pro 32. I would like to know how you usually place them if your room is rectangular. Can you tell the maximum size of dance floor you would be comfortable with just the 2 of them ? Because they are so expensive, I'll get an idea of the maximum I can get out of them. For a restaurant with around thirty tables, just one would be plenty, I imagine. Many thanks in advance for your time to answer me.
As an owner of the original L1 and L1S models I noticed Bose has scaled back some of the high frequencies in the Pro series speakers. Will EQing handle this or no?
I like the design and sound pattern of Bose line array. i wish some brand would design similar or equivalent like this as long as not violate the patent.
Hi, great review , congrats !! For voice and backing tracks performer as I am,, I would like to know your thoughts about a comparison with db technology 1203 , I want to keep the High Fidelity of music , So I wouldn’t mind to sacrifice punch and power watts for quality music for backing tracks and voice, What’s your opinion ? Thanks 🙏
The 1203 is great and today at an even greater price. Definitely a good choice. I would suggest you demo as many PA systems as possible as there are many recently introduced systems with more onboard options that you may benefit from
Your the best….. I have to 2 Pro 16s and I run a cheap blastking 12ch mixer. 7 mics on my drum set and I run my IPhone in the RCA in jack. I agree with all your criticism of Bose. I finally got my rig sounding decent and enjoying it. I love your take on Bose though, You hit right on the nail, but for some reason we still buy it. God Bless.
@@valeryboma9370 I'd venture to say it's because he got over the euphoria of the purchase then had buyers remorse - big time. I sold high end home audio for over 30 years. Bose was a joke in those circles. I understand it's a different animal with live.
I also sold my evo and purchased the Bose Pro 32 with the new sub and it has paid for itself !! I sold all of my QSC’s except 1 kw122.... it works for me!!!
I'm in a guitar/drums/bass/keys looping duo (rock and pop music) and I had a Bose F1/812 system up until about a month ago. I switched to a pair of L1 Pro32's and Sub1's, and I couldn't be more happy. I run the columns in stereo, and the subs stacked in mono, and this setup seems to be a perfect frequency match between lows and highs. I use the 'live' EQ setting, and I roll the hi EQ down one notch on the line input. I get punchy snares and kicks, and nicely rounded bass guitar. It's a much better system for what we do than the F1/812's mostly because of the way it fills the rooms we play. There's something about the columns that allow the music to be the same volume everywhere in the club, from one foot away to 30 feet away. The mix of frequencies stays the same as well. We set the system up behind us now, which allows us to hear in detail exactly what everyone else in the venue is hearing. I don't need my IEM's any longer, which is a sweet and welcomed change putting me much more in the room. When we used them in a place we play quite often for the first time, the staff was quick to point out what a sonic improvement there was. According to the specs, the L1 32 pro has the same SPL at 13ft as the F1/812, and less dB loss at 33 ft. It used to take four trips to get the F1/812 into the club, and now it's two, 90lbs less weight. Opaz, there are some good points in your video. Like the mixer on the floor really worries me. It does look like a pan for dirt and water to form. And 3000 dollars each was a huge investment to swallow for something that doesn't look like 3000 dollars worth of stuff. That sub cover too.... disappointing. However, with Bose, you're paying for R&D as well as the product. Sure, we can say that Behringer has a much cheaper version of this style of PA, but of course they do. Bose did all the work...
I went to a gig a couple of weeks ago, where the band had a stereo pair of F1/812 units (which they recently bought) and they nearly knocked me off my feet, quite literally! Thought they were a new thing, but then looking up on the Bose site, already about 7 years old. Is the L1 Pro series a replacement, or will there be a new breed of F1? Prefer the look of them to the more organic style of the L1, but that's just my taste. Would like a little more bottom end for the kick drum and 'floor' toms, so might add a Sub1 to my Pro8. The Behringer PAs we use as stage monitors (or the house PA) can't handle any bass, so I put my drums through the Pro8, and send the signal with low cut into the house PA. Works well.
@@PhatSimey I think on the sub bass side of things, the F1's clearly were more well suited. I see the the L1 Pro 32 a replacement in SPL, coverage and portability, but probably not for recreating the full bass range, although the Sub2's would probably be better for that than the Sub1's if that's what you're looking for. Still not missing my F1/812's, though.
@@toddmoore9138 Thinking the same about the F1 setup, but don't need that sort of grunt just yet. I play in a worship band (Roland V-Drums through the Pro8, volume at 12 o'clock and mids and highs also through the house PA is plenty), so stacking F1s on the stage might scare away the congregation- or blow them out of the doors! If I ever start gigging in pubs etc, might up my game then...
Hey OPAZ, I watched your whole video and totally get it that the 32 is not worth the money. I already did see that most reviews are about the 16 and it already looked to me that they are pushing the 16 and 32 because it makes them much more money over the 8. The prices here are linear, which means a 16 costs as much as 2x 8’s and a 32 costs as much as 4x 8’s. Would you say that it would be a good setup to use 4x Pro8’s and having spacious sound that works well for Deep House / Tech House and Techno? Or do you have other models that you would recommend? I’m going out to some shops to test some alternatives like the Yamaha Stagepas1k, JBL etc. Please let me know. 😊🙏🏼
I would rather use just 2X of anything, there are so many PA's out there demo as much as you can. If you ever fancy a spacious sound, I would recommend using a sound effect rather than using multiple systems It's so much cheaper
Hi, thanks so much for your review. I’m running a ballroom dance studio, at the moment using Bose L1 Model 2, but not so impressed with sound quality. Was thinking to change for two L Pro8, in opposite corners. Do you want think it’s a good idea? Or you have some other suggestions. Thank You so much in advance. Very excited to hear from you soon 🤩
Sergiy, how big is the ballroom and how many people (maximum) are in it at one time? You say you're not impressed with the sound quality, why?. Is it not loud enough or do you mean something else concerning tone, can you be more specific
Regarding quality I was expecting a bit clearer sound, in other studio( that is smaller) we have two LD 28 and it seems like it sounds clearer. Maybe because ceilings are much lover and space is smaller. Also I’m using mackie big knob to control volume, and it doesn’t give me ability to customise bass and treble. LD has a mixer on board which allows to do it. With L1 I have to turn sub to minimum. Also maybe because I placed it in the corner. When I was buying it I was hoping I’m buying best Bose speaker for events. But kinda not impressedI don’t know 🤷♂️ maybe I’m too picky 🤔 Thank You for reply 🙏
I've asked somebody who uses one for exactly that purpose and they use a Yamaha stagepas 1K. It works for them but not sure if it will work for you Hope this helps
Your arguments are valid. I switched from an L1 type 2 which I love still to the pro 32 and I'm very disappointed at the poor frequency response. It takes a lot of work to make these speakers sound good and even then I'm not satisfied with the way the sound is sculpted. I use a k sub subwoofer with it because I don't care for the Bose base cabinets. I believe the fundamental problem is that the line array speakers are too small. I always get a tinny sound that I can't seem to eliminate. If anybody has any idea how to please let me know. I use a single stack for karaoke. Was a fantastic combination with the L1 type 2 but infuriating with the updated Pro 32
I bought the pro 32 got a deal for $1,200 thing sounds incredible definitely want another one for stereo… however my regular pa has more separation and depth, but I used the Bose tonight and it’s growing on me, and I use my own mixer …
I need your help. I have watched almost all of your videos. I play electric guitar and would like to buy a pa to play my backing track and possibly plug my guitar to the pa. I want extreme clean sound at high volumes as well as heavy bass. Also midrange is highly important. Your input is much appreciated.
In past videos you said you don't mind pairing speakers from different companies. I agree the Bose House Sound is lacking clarity on top. I have paired my EV30M with the Pro32/Sub2. Using the App on the EV I can add just enough EQ to bring out the frequencies missing from the Bose. Of course I love the fact that I'm getting sound from left and right. Your response will probably be why should you have to fix a $3,200 speaker? Just a thought if you want to return your JBL PRXs! Shame you bought a pair of Pro32s. What do you do with your gear that is bested by the next find?
No, pro32 with the ev is good, right up my street. If you don't experiment, you don't get anywhere. As you might or might not know. I am all over the place with brands. The average person buys a pa that fits the purpose and "THAT IS IT" job done. Get on with it and start earning.That is the best and most efficient way to be. However what if you're unsure what to buy or can't get to demo product after product. I love gadgets, audio etc and always have. I am always looking out and about at what's new and if it is good I want to try it out. At the same time give back whether it's info through the tube or just advice There are so many that are just like I was years ago before I even had a clue how to successfully deliver a dj performance. They aren't sure which way to turn finding the good gear and eliminating the bad. We all want the best and bottom line, we want to spend as little as possible getting it. Hopefully my tiny input over the net, helps somebody Obviously some disagree and they're opinion matters, not mine Very few item purchases are sold. I experiment with equipment, let other djs, buskers, bands, performers, places of worship, clubs, bars etc etc use them for periods to get their feedback for myself to see how items work or don't at NO cost to them I do still use a majority of my equipment to earn and at the moment it's all going very well. Problem is, there's just not enough hours in the day to do it all
I was thinking about buying one, however: - The height is an issue. - FX are super limited unless you buy the extra tonematch, for hundreds extra. - Bags cases need to be bought seperately. You'd think for 3000 they'd include those. Sloppy really. - I don't mind the price, but I do mind all the stuff you need to buy separately for it to work properly for what you need it for.
Thank you so much. I was considering buying the Bose 16, then the 32, but your incisive review woke me up! I spend my gear dollars carefully, and I realize buying the Bose 32 would have been a disaster! You saved me big time on this one. Now the question is....now what do I buy?
Have you ever done a left/right comparison of the Bose 32 vs Evolve 50? I have and the Bose makes the 50s sound like toys. That said, I still use the 50s most of the time because they do sound very good when not comparing with the Bose.
All explained in the upload it sounds like a huge radio, a big full range performance. Not "crystal" clear, just "clear" like a radio (pro16 the same).I have cheaper columns with clearer hf's. The sub2 goes low but it sounds detached from the column. lots of bass but they don't marry together in my opinion, sub rumbles away doing its own thing but no mid punch (fill-in to couple with column). For 3k I expected "wow factor" sound, much more. It's not all about bass Some of my best sounding speakers are disliked by others and vice versa. The more brands with a different take on sound, the merrier. That's what it's all about, something for everyone
@@opaz. I get what you are saying and I find myself not being able to argue. Very good description. My other big column speakers were the LD Curve 500 TS. Very cool system but the sub was too much for me to move around. The Bose also blows that system out of the water with dance floor filling sound even from a distance. The big bonus is its easy portability. No the Bose pro 32s would not be a good choice. For a jazz club or concert hall, but for big weddings I find them flawed but awesome.
Well I have to eat some crow here. I was having issues getting my EV 30M to sound exactly the way I wanted. So I did another shoot out with the PRO 8 and the EV using my Bose T4S mixer on both. The Bose PRO did come out on top. So I went back to the PRO 8. I run 2 for stereo. That being said I wouldn’t spend $7,000 to buy 2 and then a Tone match mixer! I would buy some QSC 12.2’s. Or the Bose F1 812.
@@opaz. Not when I used the T4S mixer. If you use Music mode, mud in the midrange for live vocals. Live cut out the low end. Adding back in just was not that great. I ended up with 2 Pro 8’s.
You will save yourself tons and tons of money. Great sounding PA, great stereo separation with 2, use totally portable for many hours anywhere for an absolutely INCREDIBLE price!
Been using these since they came out.....they are amazing. Not sure what you are smoking......I get more compliments about my sound than I could ever ask for. I have used these for smaller clubs all the way up to very large outdoor events and have never had an issue. if you are playing in places with ceilings lower than 8 ft.....has nothing to do with the BOSE. You can also take out a ceiling panel and the P32 works with just the bottom 16 speakers plugged in......
I have heard that you can use half the array for 16 drivers ... is this true? I realize this would have a signifigant impact on the sound ... about to purchase for giging in New Orleans and am concerned about height
Those Peerless-made mid/high drivers are quite nice to be fair. They use the same ones on the F1 and S1 (8/3 respectively). Does it justify the price difference? I don't think so.
Absolute rubbish! The drivers in the S1PRO/ F1-812 are 2.25” mid high drivers. The L1 PRO systems are using 2.0” drivers. Designed and manufactured by Bose. Peerless are a knockoffs available at Parts Express which are nothing like the original’s performance. People see aftermarket speakers and make nonsensical assumptions and state them as fact.
I am so happy that you addressed the low-mids. I noticed that with Bose. It’s all motifs, some highs and a ton of lows but what about the sort of lows? Non- existent.
Just thought that it you sell your units , try and get the Model 2 and B2s before they are all gone. I paid £3336.00 for a pair! At Guitar Guitar in Epsom on interest free too. Nearly the cost of just one of your Pro 32 sets! Good luck mate
Just had a demo of boae L1 pro32 In a large stage environment looking to replace my 2 x l1 model 2 with 2 b2s Which I think are brilliant great sound DIDN'T like the sound of the pro 32 especially the sub 2 it sounded dead and muffled it was loud but the more you turn it up the worst it got The line array doesn't sound as good as L1 model 2 OPAZ was spot on I'll be keeping my L1 model 2 B2s till retirement Me Thinks
Wish I had gone with the Sub 1 for the Pro 32. Something is off with the Pro 32/Sub2 combo. There's a harshness to the sound. Definitely not as warm as the L1 Model 2 w/B2. Started using my L1 rig again until I try out the Pro 32 w/ the smaller Sub 1.
Not sure what happened to the comment I just wrote. Just wanted to say thanks for the excellent review. You saved me a whole lot of money and frustration.
I was in Sweetwater yesterday testing various column array units. For the money, you can do better with other units. The EV Evolve 50 sounds pretty damn good for about half the cost. Add in just about any sub (and I paired it almost everything they had on display) I personally think you come out better. That system is not worth $3200, it's just not.
IF it was my only pa. Obviously not turned down as I have other pa systems. Suggested already but sounded terrible with just 16.It's the tallest rigid pa i have and at 7ft, the possibility of it causing height issues is high. All shorter L1's are adjustable why? but the tallest is not...odd.
Ok.. I’m really Saddened to hear that.. but your so right $6000.. is insane.. But remember you’re paying for the name Bose ha ha..! You’re so right there’s so many systems out there that sound great but if it’s not doing the right thing they’re not getting my money..😖🎶 Thanks again for the pros & cons on the system we need more people like you & me out there .. Like Dave Chapelle says when keeping it real goes wrong ..!😩😖🎶
I have two S1pro the. I got two L1pro 16 the best sound and yes the 32 it’s very expensive and that floor control I agree that’s why I like the 16 pros
All points are valid except for 1. Running mono is better than stereo for live events The problem with running stereo in live situations is that the sweet spot is only limited to the area equidistant between the two speakers. All the other areas will be hearing different mixes depending on what speaker they are nearer to. Another problem with running stereo on column arrays(and even point sources) are that they are more susceptible to comb filtering which causes cancellations across the entire frequency range. Comb filtering is the main reason why the sound does not feel “full”. If you heard the effect of comb filtering you will know what I mean. 2. The bottom speakers are not useless. It may seem useless assuming sound travels in a straight line but you need to consider that sound refracts upward when there is a positive temperature change. Putting line source speakers on the floor lessens the drop off in volume due to temperature changes(which is a common problem for column arrays and even compression drivers). That being said I still prefer the f1 series to the l1 because it does not wobble and there are no physical connections that are points of failure. The connection from the columns to the sub are not worth the price for all l series speakers. EV did a better job in terms of construction and materials with the evolve 50s.
Isn't the JBL PRX one is also mono? It has no Aux out and it needs an external mixer to run stereo!! So you buy two PRX Ones and have 14 channels that don't get used. Neither Bose and JBL offers that option without and external mixer. If you want stereo and all the inputs then the Ev50M has to be the best option. You get to use all the channels on two speakers and via the app. If you only want one then JBL seems like the Best Buy.
$1599, you expect mono, many others at that price are. 3K nearly double the price, still only mono!! 🤔. ES 1203 has old tech that makes it a stereo pa for less than 2K. I'd love to know the benefits of this pa worth 3K
Mark wrote the following in the comments: So I watched your video when you first unboxed the Bose pro32 sub2's shortly before I bought the Bose 32 sub2's. I've used the system at about 6 larger events (I DJ weddings) Your points are valid. It does not sound as good as the other L1 systems (I have owned them all) The system is MUCH MUCH LOUDER though. It WILL fill a large room with good sound. It WILL Cut through a crowd to the back of a packed dance floor, something other L1 systems could not do. I do high end weddings and it looks AWESOME. That is important to me (and to my clients and planners I work with). It's a BREEZE to set up! Almost as easy as my Evolve 50 speakers which I use most of the time. The subs are EASY to transport. I'm 60 and that is important..for a sub that size it puts out A LOT of bass. Is it the best bass? No, but my clients are not audiophiles. It booms and that's all they care about. Are they over priced? Yup, but there is nothing else like them and they work extremely well for the type of events I do. It took 3 weddings to pay for them both so the cost was not a major factor. No they are far from perfect. Would I buy them again if I had it to do all over again? I'm not sure..probably. I like your videos!
I’ve heard the update both sub and the base separately makes all the difference in good sound I do standby my previous opinion these are overpriced for their performance.
Soooo can anyone recommend something else with wicked bass and easy portability? Cause this looks great to me but not to this dude and he knows more than me probs
Sir, you make total sense. Sound engineers craft the Stereo in their mix to complement the music and relying on 1 speaker only is risky in case of a problem. (and what you said about people spilling drinks is so true)
listen to one, you will understand. your mind always tells you it cant be done til your ears get involved....i was skeptical too til i played on one. theres nothing better for a solo or duo musicians
Being a DJ you would far less notice the mid range detail being lost in a live performance. I think the issue hear is the 2” Cricket drivers cannot produce the mid frequencies properly. Even the S1PRO has better mids uses the same 2.25” mid high drivers the 812 uses. I think they made a big mistake using 2” drivers! The low frequencies are not passed to the Sub until 200Hz. That’s why it sounds like there is a hole in the response of this speaker. They should have kept the 2.25” driver size and improved the drivers and DSP. Mines going back!
Ummm using a 32 in those venues is kinda a waste. If you look at the design intent of the series the 32 is def for bands or medium outdoor places where you’ll be in a stage. All those extra speakers on the bottom are aimed to a “crowd” below you.
You honestly nailed this review out of the park I been skeptical of those bullshit sticks selling over a grand. Most DJ’s I know would agree with you as well that some DJ’S, NOT ALL buy brand name to say they got that brand name. No knock on them do what you do but don’t lie to everyone else and say they are the best bang for your buck because they are not ! For example, remember when them beats studio headphones came out at a whopping almost $500 ? I thought they were the worst sounding monitor headphones !! The brilliant strategy that beats came up with paying celebrities DJ’s to wear them during gigs, DJ’s seen that and joined the band wagon completely ignoring the specs ! Meanwhile technic headphones selling for 150 sounded better and were 5x less expensive, come on. This is a Problem we are facing in America, marketing strategies design to trick the consumer into purchasing gimmicks and crap product in return for less value on the consumer and more for the star! My audio technicas and technics headphones stood the test of time thru that beats studio phase and proved still to this day that you can’t always throw your hard earned money at these companies jacking up prices just because they great at marketing and paying off celebs. We have to Hold them to a certain standard depending on the money they want us to pay them.
Every word you say is the truth. Beats is just hype, it was always just hype and was selling with even more hype. The companies are getting wealthier, fooling us churning out lacklustre garbage and laughing at the buyers on the street The real long standing products don't need hype, their price point and established quality does the talking And as for having the celebs and influencers on the payroll, that is evil selfishness and dishonesty. Your extremely valuable comments are a credit to this channel. I shake your hand Sir
@Opaz
Finally made the F1 system purchase. So far, very nice, loud, and clear system. I'm very satisfied with my purchase. I didn't bother with the 8, 16, or 32 because I already knew from an SPL perspective, the F1 system was superior.
It's unfortunate that the 32 didn't live up to your expectations. Here in the US, the F1 system is cheaper than the 32 at $2k per stack. While the F1 might be a bit heavier than the 32, I am still able to put it together and tear it down with no help.
Excellent 👍🏻
I too stand behind the F1 but may transition to Evox 12 for the weight reduction.
@@TheDj8X I got rid of my F1/ 812 system and bought Evolve 50's. I know own 4 and two 1200 watt 12 inch subs if I really want extra bottom end. For the price, you can't beat the Evolve 50 IMO
I am getting a hissing sound as soon is connect my l1 pro tower to power. No mixer or subwofer. Just connecting power to l1 pro gives hiss sound
I sold my Evolve 50's and purchased the L1 PRO 32 with Sub 2 (2 units) and let me tell you, it was the best decision I made, I love the sound and bass on these BOSE speakers, I get lots of compliments on the sound and people just keep staring at them like "Wow that's the sound that comes out of those things? " lol I'm extremely happy with my purchase and I would buy them again.
You're right. I also have 2 sets of L1 Pro 32- Sub2 They sound and look great, As for the bass - if you have the right mixer and some knowledge, you can easily deal with rumbling
We have a 90s era PA. HEAVY. Everything is pointing to the L1 32 Pro. But damn. 8k bucks. That's steep.
I love bose s1pro + dub 2
Problem will come when something goes down. You can't just easily replace parts. Bose to me is overpriced made in China. No more USA built Bose.
They sound good but are way overpriced for what you get. It’s about the value you get at the end of the day. They could have been engineered a lot better to be honest. 3 grand and the controls on the floor don’t have covers ? Give me a break that’s one spilled drink recipe for disaster.
Great review, thanks. I have an L1 compact and have been thinking about upgrading. I'm a solo acoustic guy playing bars/restaurants and such. But the compact just doesn't push a lot of low end on outside decks and environments. Was looking at the pro32 because it must be the best, right? I think I'll look at a 16 next. Not in a hurry, doing the research...
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Ended up getting a 16 really happy with it.
I don't care 😮 the best decision I made am so happy with it ❤
hi my friend im wondering if can you help me ive got the BOSE l1 pro8 and pro 16 my main contention is im getting microphone volume fade on all three models i cant understand whats going on i was realy a big fan of BOSE now im going off them i never had this problem with my old gear i swapped for bose what could be causing this please let me know
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I love my L1 pro32, I run two of them with 2 sub2s or even with one or two more subs. I love the ease of setup. I’m sure other systems you mentioned are good too. To my ears the sound of L1 pro32 is unmatched sound quality. My ears are done with most other PA speakers.
have you run the 2 sub2s in cardioid?supposed to pickup more dB but i haven't found anyone who's done it!
@@PeterPham I did. It didnt increase it as much as it directed it in front of the dance floor. It worked well!
One year later from this upload, I am reading in many comments that previous L1 system owners that now have the Pro32, prefer the sound quality of their older L1. The L1M2 especially. They agree the pro32 is louder but lacking in sound quality
@@opaz. I never had L1M2 so cannot compare but just this last weekend I used a pair of L1PRO32 for a 250 people event & multiple people came up to me and told me after the event that they really loved the sound quality. Some even took down the names of the system.
The most valuable videos are those like this: that tell us specifically what is wrong with something! Thanks!!
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I have a rock band , we play 80s hair music with electronic drums . Will this system work with a different sub ? And can it pound a medium venue?
Wicked review mate.
Very informative.
Was wondering if you had an opinion the HK Polar 12s for DJ use.
Nice one 🙏
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Yes I do. It is ok but I would demo as many systems as possible, you may just be surprised what's on offer elsewhere
I watched your earlier video of the Pro 32. So where did the love go? Was it after using it in a real life setting?
Something like that
Ha! I love your comment about the covers. The L1M2’s came with more premium cases. The cases for the top and base are pretty good though where is the pocket for the cables? The Sub2 cover is a joke. The B1 and B2 came with a thicker waterproof cover that though isn’t padded still feels premium.
Definitely right on the Sub2. It’s not matched well. Some songs it sounds amazing, others it’s muddy and doesn’t sound right. I think part of this is the smaller drivers. The columns don’t get as low as the M2. I think this is so they can get better mixing of two systems and get highs above 16kHz unlike the M2. Unfortunately that means the Sub 2 handles higher frequencies than the B1/B2 had to and is a bigger driver. I’m. It sold on the racetrack either. There is a reason speakers are round. The sub match cable seems to send very little info to the column.
The app and dsp ability is severely lacking. No parametric eq? No options for one Sub2 vs 2? I know you’re against getting the T4S mixer but I’m sort of ok with it if it fixes the issues. Here’s the thing, the T4S works on the M2 and Pro series and doesn’t have different eq’s for each so it doesn’t change a thing. It gives you a one band parametric eq, but that’s not much. Except a few more outputs and another tone match port it’s the same mixer as the T1. Also none of the Tonematch scenes have been updated in 15 years, they’re the same ones on the T1 mixer I have and very few. Hope you have Taylor guitars and Audix mics.
Thanks for your reviews. One main reason I’d might be interested about this pro 32, is the weight. I think it’s the lightest, especially the sub 1. Do you know another column brand with enough power and a light sub ?
What is your definition of enough power?
@@opaz. enough to play for 200/300 dancers.
I understand and appreciate your feedback...would your opinion change if I'm a wedding DJ with 50% off Bose equipment?
no
Can you tell us more about what Bose product you refered too ? thanks :-)
Hi what would you recommend for a PA system for a church that sits about 120 people? We mainly use it for preaching and one vocalist. We tried the l1 pro8 and it way too weak.Thank you!
Have you had a demo of the dB ES1203?
Like your review, but have you tried to put your tower on top of your sub? This will fix your dust and low speaker problems.
Would you say the SUB2 with ist price tag of ~1200€ is also not worth the money? It is the smallest SUB with 1000watt power down to 37Hz ( I just drive a very small car & my basic PA System fills already the trunk - But I am not sure if it is worth the money, Sometime this just says that it can waste so much ernergy, but it is not going to deliver them and maybe a 500w Behringer B1200D-PRO can deliver the same audio experice.
The sub does not suit/match the 32 column, not necessarily that the sub is a waste of money. The sub alone may fulfil all of your needs/requirements. You will definitely need to demo both subs as the price/performance balance is crucial here
What was the cheap model PA you bought. It looked cool with it's lights.
Behringer C210B
Hi, I am a solo acoustic performer, running vocals and acoustic guitar, along with my loop pedal. I recently purchased a bose l1 pro 16. The Outdoor the sound is incredible, couldn’t be happier….
however in a loud party room with no more than 100 people, I crank the volume up and the sound becomes weirdly muddy, almost distorted and feels like it’s sending more of the sound to the subwoofer. I have messed around with lowering the bass to almost as low as it can go and I can’t get rid of the muddy bass-like sound at high volumes. Are you able to offer me advice?Is it possible I have a faulty product or do I just need to work on my EQing?? Thanks James
Sorry to hear that you're experiencing problems James. A few questions. How many times has this happened?, has it been since purchase or just lately? Does this happen in smaller rooms or also in larger rooms?
you need to upgrade to the 32, the 16 doesnt have enough juice for a crowded gig.
I gather from most comments people seem to be DJs. I bought this from a singer and a 5 piece band perspective. I have used and heard many PAs. This one is good, lots of volume and clarity. Glad I bought the Tonematch along with it as amazing.
Only negatives for me is the vulnerability of the design in wild drunken venues as the column wobbles when touched and the floor panel is easily splashed at floor level with drinks.
If a sensible crowd and nice wedding and events this piece of equipment is brilliant as light weight and sounds amazing.
You're happy, that's the main thing
So I watched your video when you first unboxed the Bose pro32 sub2's shortly before I bought the Bose 32 sub2's. I've used the system at about 6 larger events (I DJ weddings) Your points are valid. It does not sound as good as the other L1 systems (I have owned them all) The system is MUCH MUCH LOUDER though. It WILL fill a large room with good sound. It WILL Cut through a crowd to the back of a packed dance floor, something other L1 systems could not do. I do high end weddings and it looks AWESOME. That is important to me (and to my clients and planners I work with). It's a BREEZE to set up! Almost as easy as my Evolve 50 speakers which I use most of the time. The subs are EASY to transport. I'm 60 and that is important..for a sub that size it puts out A LOT of bass. Is it the best bass? No, but my clients are not audiophiles. It booms and that's all they care about. Are they over priced? Yup, but there is nothing else like them and they work extremely well for the type of events I do. It took 3 weddings to pay for them both so the cost was not a major factor. No they are far from perfect. Would I buy them again if I had it to do all over again? I'm not sure..probably. I like your videos!
Cheers Mark, thanks for your very valuable comments, much appreciated.
Unfortunately I may be selling mine, like you I also have an evolve so light and easy to set up (also not perfect but not 3k).
Got a buyer for my 32's, seriously thinking about it 🤔
Hi Mark, Hello,
I'm waiting until after the pandemic to start my wedding DJ career. With two Bose L1 Pro 32. I would like to know how you usually place them if your room is rectangular. Can you tell the maximum size of dance floor you would be comfortable with just the 2 of them ? Because they are so expensive, I'll get an idea of the maximum I can get out of them. For a restaurant with around thirty tables, just one would be plenty, I imagine. Many thanks in advance for your time to answer me.
As an owner of the original L1 and L1S models I noticed Bose has scaled back some of the high frequencies in the Pro series speakers. Will EQing handle this or no?
Finally! someone one had the same thoughts as me on this system. Thanks for the video.
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I like the design and sound pattern of Bose line array. i wish some brand would design similar or equivalent like this as long as not violate the patent.
Hi, great review , congrats !! For voice and backing tracks performer as I am,, I would like to know your thoughts about a comparison with db technology 1203 , I want to keep the High Fidelity of music , So I wouldn’t mind to sacrifice punch and power watts for quality music for backing tracks and voice, What’s your opinion ? Thanks 🙏
The 1203 is great and today at an even greater price. Definitely a good choice. I would suggest you demo as many PA systems as possible as there are many recently introduced systems with more onboard options that you may benefit from
@@opaz.I have an analógic mackie pro 10 fx v3
Thank you for this. I really appreciate your videos. You just earned a new subscriber.
Thanks for the sub and welcome
Good question, why twitter on the bottom?
All valid points. Well said. Thank you.
Your the best….. I have to 2 Pro 16s and I run a cheap blastking 12ch mixer. 7 mics on my drum set and I run my IPhone in the RCA in jack. I agree with all your criticism of Bose. I finally got my rig sounding decent and enjoying it. I love your take on Bose though, You hit right on the nail, but for some reason we still buy it. God Bless.
Cause it’s the best. This guy probably didn’t get paid because a few months ago, he was in love with the pro 32s.
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@@valeryboma9370 I'd venture to say it's because he got over the euphoria of the purchase then had buyers remorse - big time. I sold high end home audio for over 30 years. Bose was a joke in those circles. I understand it's a different animal with live.
I also sold my evo and purchased the Bose Pro 32 with the new sub and it has paid for itself !! I sold all of my QSC’s except 1 kw122.... it works for me!!!
I'm in a guitar/drums/bass/keys looping duo (rock and pop music) and I had a Bose F1/812 system up until about a month ago. I switched to a pair of L1 Pro32's and Sub1's, and I couldn't be more happy. I run the columns in stereo, and the subs stacked in mono, and this setup seems to be a perfect frequency match between lows and highs. I use the 'live' EQ setting, and I roll the hi EQ down one notch on the line input. I get punchy snares and kicks, and nicely rounded bass guitar. It's a much better system for what we do than the F1/812's mostly because of the way it fills the rooms we play. There's something about the columns that allow the music to be the same volume everywhere in the club, from one foot away to 30 feet away. The mix of frequencies stays the same as well. We set the system up behind us now, which allows us to hear in detail exactly what everyone else in the venue is hearing. I don't need my IEM's any longer, which is a sweet and welcomed change putting me much more in the room. When we used them in a place we play quite often for the first time, the staff was quick to point out what a sonic improvement there was. According to the specs, the L1 32 pro has the same SPL at 13ft as the F1/812, and less dB loss at 33 ft. It used to take four trips to get the F1/812 into the club, and now it's two, 90lbs less weight.
Opaz, there are some good points in your video. Like the mixer on the floor really worries me. It does look like a pan for dirt and water to form. And 3000 dollars each was a huge investment to swallow for something that doesn't look like 3000 dollars worth of stuff. That sub cover too.... disappointing. However, with Bose, you're paying for R&D as well as the product. Sure, we can say that Behringer has a much cheaper version of this style of PA, but of course they do. Bose did all the work...
I went to a gig a couple of weeks ago, where the band had a stereo pair of F1/812 units (which they recently bought) and they nearly knocked me off my feet, quite literally! Thought they were a new thing, but then looking up on the Bose site, already about 7 years old. Is the L1 Pro series a replacement, or will there be a new breed of F1? Prefer the look of them to the more organic style of the L1, but that's just my taste.
Would like a little more bottom end for the kick drum and 'floor' toms, so might add a Sub1 to my Pro8. The Behringer PAs we use as stage monitors (or the house PA) can't handle any bass, so I put my drums through the Pro8, and send the signal with low cut into the house PA. Works well.
@@PhatSimey I think on the sub bass side of things, the F1's clearly were more well suited. I see the the L1 Pro 32 a replacement in SPL, coverage and portability, but probably not for recreating the full bass range, although the Sub2's would probably be better for that than the Sub1's if that's what you're looking for. Still not missing my F1/812's, though.
@@toddmoore9138 Thinking the same about the F1 setup, but don't need that sort of grunt just yet. I play in a worship band (Roland V-Drums through the Pro8, volume at 12 o'clock and mids and highs also through the house PA is plenty), so stacking F1s on the stage might scare away the congregation- or blow them out of the doors! If I ever start gigging in pubs etc, might up my game then...
you can connect like a tascam mixer there? or another kind of mixer?
have you tried running your 2 subs in cardioid mode? i've been wanting to know if that sounds good.
Hey OPAZ, I watched your whole video and totally get it that the 32 is not worth the money. I already did see that most reviews are about the 16 and it already looked to me that they are pushing the 16 and 32 because it makes them much more money over the 8.
The prices here are linear, which means a 16 costs as much as 2x 8’s and a 32 costs as much as 4x 8’s. Would you say that it would be a good setup to use 4x Pro8’s and having spacious sound that works well for Deep House / Tech House and Techno? Or do you have other models that you would recommend? I’m going out to some shops to test some alternatives like the Yamaha Stagepas1k, JBL etc.
Please let me know. 😊🙏🏼
I would rather use just 2X of anything, there are so many PA's out there demo as much as you can.
If you ever fancy a spacious sound, I would recommend using a sound effect rather than using multiple systems It's so much cheaper
Hi, thanks so much for your review.
I’m running a ballroom dance studio, at the moment using Bose L1 Model 2, but not so impressed with sound quality. Was thinking to change for two L Pro8, in opposite corners. Do you want think it’s a good idea?
Or you have some other suggestions.
Thank You so much in advance.
Very excited to hear from you soon 🤩
Sergiy, how big is the ballroom and how many people (maximum) are in it at one time?
You say you're not impressed with the sound quality, why?. Is it not loud enough or do you mean something else concerning tone, can you be more specific
@@opaz. ballroom is 2800sqf or 260m2. Ceilings are 16ft or 5m high.
I would say for the events max I would get 100-120 people.
Regarding quality I was expecting a bit clearer sound, in other studio( that is smaller) we have two LD 28 and it seems like it sounds clearer.
Maybe because ceilings are much lover and space is smaller. Also I’m using mackie big knob to control volume, and it doesn’t give me ability to customise bass and treble. LD has a mixer on board which allows to do it. With L1 I have to turn sub to minimum. Also maybe because I placed it in the corner. When I was buying it I was hoping I’m buying best Bose speaker for events. But kinda not impressedI don’t know 🤷♂️ maybe I’m too picky 🤔
Thank You for reply 🙏
Do you have a T1
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Unfortunately not, do you think I can do it without it. I only use IPad for music.
What do you recommend for a piano vocal? Mid size gigs?
I've asked somebody who uses one for exactly that purpose and they use a Yamaha stagepas 1K. It works for them but not sure if it will work for you
Hope this helps
I appreciate your honest review!! 😂 I don’t even want one anymore 😆 I’ll stick to the original version if I can find it still. Thank you!!!!!
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I still make the same amount of money with my Evolve 50's. People don't care. Just be a good dj with good sound and they are happy
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Your arguments are valid. I switched from an L1 type 2 which I love still to the pro 32 and I'm very disappointed at the poor frequency response. It takes a lot of work to make these speakers sound good and even then I'm not satisfied with the way the sound is sculpted. I use a k sub subwoofer with it because I don't care for the Bose base cabinets. I believe the fundamental problem is that the line array speakers are too small. I always get a tinny sound that I can't seem to eliminate. If anybody has any idea how to please let me know. I use a single stack for karaoke. Was a fantastic combination with the L1 type 2 but infuriating with the updated Pro 32
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I bought the pro 32 got a deal for $1,200 thing sounds incredible definitely want another one for stereo… however my regular pa has more separation and depth, but I used the Bose tonight and it’s growing on me, and I use my own mixer …
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I absolutely love mine. They are tall, but never had a show booked with tiny 7 foot ceilings.
You can use the PRO32 without the upper array if the ceiling is low!
Was the slip cover given? I bought mine and sending it back since it is so disappointing.
My slip cover came with the unit
I bought two as well. This guy is spot on
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Do you realise in google search for over 2 years your video has always been in the top 3 search for Bose Pro32
and over 480 thumbs up.Good going Sir
Correction, 500+ 😎
I need your help. I have watched almost all of your videos. I play electric guitar and would like to buy a pa to play my backing track and possibly plug my guitar to the pa. I want extreme clean sound at high volumes as well as heavy bass. Also midrange is highly important. Your input is much appreciated.
What's your budget?
@@opaz. up to $2500 usd
i suggest to have a review of ld curv 500 es plus and other product of ld system thanks a lot
I had a demo of the LD Maui 44G2 last year
finally, an informative review. thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
In past videos you said you don't mind pairing speakers from different companies. I agree the Bose House Sound is lacking clarity on top. I have paired my EV30M with the Pro32/Sub2. Using the App on the EV I can add just enough EQ to bring out the frequencies missing from the Bose. Of course I love the fact that I'm getting sound from left and right. Your response will probably be why should you have to fix a $3,200 speaker? Just a thought if you want to return your JBL PRXs! Shame you bought a pair of Pro32s. What do you do with your gear that is bested by the next find?
No, pro32 with the ev is good, right up my street. If you don't experiment, you don't get anywhere.
As you might or might not know. I am all over the place with brands. The average person buys a pa that fits the purpose and "THAT IS IT" job done. Get on with it and start earning.That is the best and most efficient way to be. However what if you're unsure what to buy or can't get to demo product after product.
I love gadgets, audio etc and always have. I am always looking out and about at what's new and if it is good I want to try it out. At the same time give back whether it's info through the tube or just advice
There are so many that are just like I was years ago before I even had a clue how to successfully deliver a dj performance. They aren't sure which way to turn finding the good gear and eliminating the bad. We all want the best and bottom line, we want to spend as little as possible getting it. Hopefully my tiny input over the net, helps somebody
Obviously some disagree and they're opinion matters, not mine
Very few item purchases are sold. I experiment with equipment, let other djs, buskers, bands, performers, places of worship, clubs, bars etc etc use them for periods to get their feedback for myself to see how items work or don't at NO cost to them
I do still use a majority of my equipment to earn and at the moment it's all going very well. Problem is, there's just not enough hours in the day to do it all
@@opaz. Sounds very generous of you, wishing you well!
You both are amazing for putting up your experiments with pa systems. Thank you!
Hey if it's really really bad is it something you're gonna resale on the secondhand market? Would you sell it for what a used Bose would go for?
Well. One was torn down and still in bits (can't find some of the screws) 😆. The other I've lent to a guitarist. Can't sell either really
@@opaz.you‘re complaining at least ten time about how expensive the thing is but you lent it instead of selling it? Sorry dude, you got a strong bias.
I lend a majority of my pa systems, can't use them all at once. If I have spare, it's good to share 😊
Thanks mate for the video
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Thank you been contemplating getting it
I was thinking about buying one, however:
- The height is an issue.
- FX are super limited unless you buy the extra tonematch, for hundreds extra.
- Bags cases need to be bought seperately. You'd think for 3000 they'd include those. Sloppy really.
- I don't mind the price, but I do mind all the stuff you need to buy separately for it to work properly for what you need it for.
Only an amateur artist requires more effects…put some work in instead of relying on technology to make you sound half ok
what other product do you like ? QSC, JBL, EV , Yamaha ect ??
Any, If it impresses
I love the sarcasm & frustration in your voice though. I wanna hear you bash more products! 😃
If it's necessary, I surely will
Thank you so much. I was considering buying the Bose 16, then the 32, but your incisive review woke me up! I spend my gear dollars carefully, and I realize buying the Bose 32 would have been a disaster! You saved me big time on this one. Now the question is....now what do I buy?
Steven, what events do you cater for?
you should try one yourself before making a decision
Have you ever done a left/right comparison of the Bose 32 vs Evolve 50? I have and the Bose makes the 50s sound like toys. That said, I still use the 50s most of the time because they do sound very good when not comparing with the Bose.
The 50 I compared with the pro16 (similar price/size), I returned the pro16
50 & 32 are different categories and different price point
@@opaz. In the video you mentioned how much you dislike the sound of the Bose Pro32. I don't quite get that.
All explained in the upload
it sounds like a huge radio, a big full range performance. Not "crystal" clear, just "clear" like a radio (pro16 the same).I have cheaper columns with clearer hf's. The sub2 goes low but it sounds detached from the column. lots of bass but they don't marry together in my opinion, sub rumbles away doing its own thing but no mid punch (fill-in to couple with column). For 3k I expected "wow factor" sound, much more. It's not all about bass
Some of my best sounding speakers are disliked by others and vice versa. The more brands with a different take on sound, the merrier. That's what it's all about, something for everyone
@@opaz. I get what you are saying and I find myself not being able to argue. Very good description. My other big column speakers were the LD Curve 500 TS. Very cool system but the sub was too much for me to move around. The Bose also blows that system out of the water with dance floor filling sound even from a distance. The big bonus is its easy portability. No the Bose pro 32s would not be a good choice. For a jazz club or concert hall, but for big weddings I find them flawed but awesome.
@@Grapevine_DJ so you think the Bose Sound better than the Curve 500 ts ?…..
I ended up purchasing 2 EV 30M’s. I operate them in stereo with my Bose T4S mixer. Sounds incredible. And still less than a single Pro 32.
Sounds good Ron 👍🏼
Well I have to eat some crow here. I was having issues getting my EV 30M to sound exactly the way I wanted. So I did another shoot out with the PRO 8 and the EV using my Bose T4S mixer on both.
The Bose PRO did come out on top. So I went back to the PRO 8. I run 2 for stereo.
That being said I wouldn’t spend $7,000 to buy 2 and then a Tone match mixer! I would buy some QSC 12.2’s. Or the Bose F1 812.
My EV 50 has poor mids, don't know if you experienced the same with the 30M
@@opaz. Not when I used the T4S mixer. If you use Music mode, mud in the midrange for live vocals.
Live cut out the low end. Adding back in just was not that great. I ended up with 2 Pro 8’s.
You lose some sound quality but you can use one column. I read this in the Bose manual.
I know you can use half but as you say, just doesn't sound right
2 behringer c210b what do you think?
You will save yourself tons and tons of money.
Great sounding PA, great stereo separation with 2, use totally portable for many hours anywhere for an absolutely INCREDIBLE price!
What about Bose L1 Model 2 VS Bose L1 Pro32 ?
Hmm, interesting 🤔
Thank you good Info we need more people like you 👌👏👏
Been using these since they came out.....they are amazing. Not sure what you are smoking......I get more compliments about my sound than I could ever ask for. I have used these for smaller clubs all the way up to very large outdoor events and have never had an issue. if you are playing in places with ceilings lower than 8 ft.....has nothing to do with the BOSE. You can also take out a ceiling panel and the P32 works with just the bottom 16 speakers plugged in......
smokin' 😆
I have heard that you can use half the array for 16 drivers ... is this true? I realize this would have a signifigant impact on the sound ... about to purchase for giging in New Orleans and am concerned about height
Agree. This review is so off the mark. The L32 is fantastic!
Those Peerless-made mid/high drivers are quite nice to be fair. They use the same ones on the F1 and S1 (8/3 respectively). Does it justify the price difference? I don't think so.
Absolute rubbish! The drivers in the S1PRO/ F1-812 are 2.25” mid high drivers. The L1 PRO systems are using 2.0” drivers. Designed and manufactured by Bose. Peerless are a knockoffs available at Parts Express which are nothing like the original’s performance. People see aftermarket speakers and make nonsensical assumptions and state them as fact.
Completely agree with you about the poor design of the base. I’ve had someone already spill a drink on mine 😑
Oh dear, same eventually happened to me. Kid with a soft drink
I am so happy that you addressed the low-mids. I noticed that with Bose. It’s all motifs, some highs and a ton of lows but what about the sort of lows? Non- existent.
Just thought that it you sell your units , try and get the Model 2 and B2s before they are all gone. I paid £3336.00 for a pair! At Guitar Guitar in Epsom on interest free too. Nearly the cost of just one of your Pro 32 sets! Good luck mate
Thanks for the heads up!, appreciated 👍🏻
Just had a demo of boae L1 pro32
In a large stage environment looking to replace my 2 x l1 model 2 with 2 b2s Which I think are brilliant great sound DIDN'T like the sound of the pro 32 especially the sub 2 it sounded dead and muffled it was loud but the more you turn it up the worst it got The line array doesn't sound as good as L1 model 2 OPAZ was spot on
I'll be keeping my L1 model 2
B2s till retirement Me Thinks
Thanks so much for your comments 👍🏻
Wish I had gone with the Sub 1 for the Pro 32. Something is off with the Pro 32/Sub2 combo. There's a harshness to the sound. Definitely not as warm as the L1 Model 2 w/B2. Started using my L1 rig again until I try out the Pro 32 w/ the smaller Sub 1.
Not sure what happened to the comment I just wrote. Just wanted to say thanks for the excellent review. You saved me a whole lot of money and frustration.
I appreciate that!
how about sub2? Will it be a good buy?
Yeah
I was in Sweetwater yesterday testing various column array units. For the money, you can do better with other units. The EV Evolve 50 sounds pretty damn good for about half the cost. Add in just about any sub (and I paired it almost everything they had on display) I personally think you come out better. That system is not worth $3200, it's just not.
It is very high. Didn’t you think about this before u purchased?
I trusted that the designers and the project planning and testing teams had considered this as they ARE the professionals!
For $3000.00 I can understand your frustration with the height. But I would not turn down the job I would just use it as a 16. Use Only one column.
IF it was my only pa. Obviously not turned down as I have other pa systems. Suggested already but sounded terrible with just 16.It's the tallest rigid pa i have and at 7ft, the possibility of it causing height issues is high. All shorter L1's are adjustable why? but the tallest is not...odd.
Ok.. I’m really Saddened to hear that.. but your so right $6000.. is insane..
But remember you’re paying for the name Bose ha ha..! You’re so right there’s so many systems out there that sound great but if it’s not doing the right thing they’re not getting my money..😖🎶
Thanks again for the pros & cons on the system we need more people like you & me out there ..
Like Dave Chapelle says when keeping it real goes wrong ..!😩😖🎶
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I have two S1pro the. I got two L1pro 16 the best sound and yes the 32 it’s very expensive and that floor control I agree that’s why I like the 16 pros
My Bose L1 Pro 32 sounds really great! I don't know what your issue are and for what reasons.
delta dawgz comment sort of sums it up!
as well as the upload
Just another controversial clickbait title to get views.
I would consider 2 pro 8’s in stereo but not the 32. I just don’t care for mono in my application.
I have my Bose F1s tops and subs for larger things and my JBL PRX1S is my grab and go. LOL I have no regrets with these 2 setups.
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I am using my F1 instead of the 32. It does sound pretty good with a T4 with and external Strymon comp
All points are valid except for
1. Running mono is better than stereo for live events
The problem with running stereo in live situations is that the sweet spot is only limited to the area equidistant between the two speakers. All the other areas will be hearing different mixes depending on what speaker they are nearer to. Another problem with running stereo on column arrays(and even point sources) are that they are more susceptible to comb filtering which causes cancellations across the entire frequency range. Comb filtering is the main reason why the sound does not feel “full”. If you heard the effect of comb filtering you will know what I mean.
2. The bottom speakers are not useless.
It may seem useless assuming sound travels in a straight line but you need to consider that sound refracts upward when there is a positive temperature change. Putting line source speakers on the floor lessens the drop off in volume due to temperature changes(which is a common problem for column arrays and even compression drivers).
That being said I still prefer the f1 series to the l1 because it does not wobble and there are no physical connections that are points of failure. The connection from the columns to the sub are not worth the price for all l series speakers. EV did a better job in terms of construction and materials with the evolve 50s.
Well pro32 is remarkably good for me. Weight and sound 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Do you DJ and are you using the Pro 32 with a sub 1? Just one pair and not 2 pairs of them? Thx
@@BillyLydon I use it for live playing and singing with a trio with sub1. And I still have a good review for it after 8 months
Cheap equipment work until the fail in the middle of a event lol
i wan them for the clear sound
I bought it just because of this video!
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You just saved me $3,000
If it’s that bad,why did you spend another 3 grand to buy another?
Stereo. It was better than the Pro16 which I also bought, which was even worse! Purchased during lockdown, had high expectations
i bought this bose wow. lovely sound. best ever speaker and sub in the market better than e.v nice. buy
Loved your video Still prefer the L1-2 When you broke it down WOW that's cheep components I'm an HK Elements now Made in Germany
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Had HK system and for medium sized concerts 2 S1Pro’s with the T4S in Stereo sounded better.
Unfortunately sound is dictated by the room.Try running it flat (no eq) then cut what u don't want NOT boost what you do
Always ran it eq off, was the best of what was available
It sounds best to me in flat which is weird. Why have a music setting?
I wish bose would answer that. Why music setting sounds over processed and lacking like all the other presets. Eq Off is the best of the rest
Isn't the JBL PRX one is also mono? It has no Aux out and it needs an external mixer to run stereo!! So you buy two PRX Ones and have 14 channels that don't get used. Neither Bose and JBL offers that option without and external mixer. If you want stereo and all the inputs then the Ev50M has to be the best option. You get to use all the channels on two speakers and via the app. If you only want one then JBL seems like the Best Buy.
$1599, you expect mono, many others at that price are. 3K nearly double the price, still only mono!! 🤔. ES 1203 has old tech that makes it a stereo pa for less than 2K.
I'd love to know the benefits of this pa worth 3K
Wow your opinion has done a 180. Wondering how the Pro 32 compares to the Model II?
As I said bought it during lockdown, only used as a home system. living with it and the demands of events.... whole new ball game
I've heard that the model II is the one to have
Mark wrote the following in the comments:
So I watched your video when you first unboxed the Bose pro32 sub2's shortly before I bought the Bose 32 sub2's. I've used the system at about 6 larger events (I DJ weddings) Your points are valid. It does not sound as good as the other L1 systems (I have owned them all) The system is MUCH MUCH LOUDER though. It WILL fill a large room with good sound. It WILL Cut through a crowd to the back of a packed dance floor, something other L1 systems could not do. I do high end weddings and it looks AWESOME. That is important to me (and to my clients and planners I work with). It's a BREEZE to set up! Almost as easy as my Evolve 50 speakers which I use most of the time. The subs are EASY to transport. I'm 60 and that is important..for a sub that size it puts out A LOT of bass. Is it the best bass? No, but my clients are not audiophiles. It booms and that's all they care about. Are they over priced? Yup, but there is nothing else like them and they work extremely well for the type of events I do. It took 3 weddings to pay for them both so the cost was not a major factor. No they are far from perfect. Would I buy them again if I had it to do all over again? I'm not sure..probably. I like your videos!
Interesting, I’m tossing up between a L1II with B2 and a pro 32 with Sub2.
I currently use a L1s with a B2
You gotta demo the ll before pulling the trigger
They added dual wireless streaming in the newest firmware, which is still over a year old at this point.
Years too late!
I’ve heard the update both sub and the base separately makes all the difference in good sound I do standby my previous opinion these are overpriced for their performance.
6 grand 4 exk15 and and 2 etc 12 tops, or 4x12 Yamaha subs and 2x12 DZR tops and they would run circles around the Bose.
WOW.....true!
Stereo and mono bluetooth like tws partybox is now supported and working well with last firmware and new apps for all L1 pro and s1
I'ts party-time! 🥳 🤩
Soooo can anyone recommend something else with wicked bass and easy portability? Cause this looks great to me but not to this dude and he knows more than me probs
it's just my personal take on it. It may be great for you
Sir, you make total sense.
Sound engineers craft the Stereo in their mix to complement the music
and relying on 1 speaker only is risky in case of a problem.
(and what you said about people spilling drinks is so true)
Kryss!!! 👍🏼
listen to one, you will understand. your mind always tells you it cant be done til your ears get involved....i was skeptical too til i played on one. theres nothing better for a solo or duo musicians
Good points.... thx
Most PA systems don’t come with boards, the channels they give you are a bonus. Boards are always sold separately .
It's great to know that many new systems are now providing multichannel boards, eliminating the extra expense and the need to purchase one
Being a DJ you would far less notice the mid range detail being lost in a live performance. I think the issue hear is the 2” Cricket drivers cannot produce the mid frequencies properly. Even the S1PRO has better mids uses the same 2.25” mid high drivers the 812 uses. I think they made a big mistake using 2” drivers! The low frequencies are not passed to the Sub until 200Hz. That’s why it sounds like there is a hole in the response of this speaker. They should have kept the 2.25” driver size and improved the drivers and DSP. Mines going back!
You hit the nail on the head Ron, with the "hole in the response"
You can adjust the height by only using g one tower. You didn’t know that?
I knew that before I bought it. Half the drivers with all that bass, sounds even worse!
Ummm using a 32 in those venues is kinda a waste. If you look at the design intent of the series the 32 is def for bands or medium outdoor places where you’ll be in a stage. All those extra speakers on the bottom are aimed to a “crowd” below you.
A waste? 1.8K booking in that venue a waste 😆
In a pinch, if it was your only PA, and the ceilings are too low, you can play with only one radiator.
16 drivers with that sub, obviously already tried it. Sounds terrible
You honestly nailed this review out of the park I been skeptical of those bullshit sticks selling over a grand. Most DJ’s I know would agree with you as well that some DJ’S, NOT ALL buy brand name to say they got that brand name. No knock on them do what you do but don’t lie to everyone else and say they are the best bang for your buck because they are not !
For example, remember when them beats studio headphones came out at a whopping almost $500 ? I thought they were the worst sounding monitor headphones !! The brilliant strategy that beats came up with paying celebrities DJ’s to wear them during gigs, DJ’s seen that and joined the band wagon completely ignoring the specs ! Meanwhile technic headphones selling for 150 sounded better and were 5x less expensive, come on.
This is a Problem we are facing in America, marketing strategies design to trick the consumer into purchasing gimmicks and crap product in return for less value on the consumer and more for the star! My audio technicas and technics headphones stood the test of time thru that beats studio phase and proved still to this day that you can’t always throw your hard earned money at these companies jacking up prices just because they great at marketing and paying off celebs. We have to Hold them to a certain standard depending on the money they want us to pay them.
Every word you say is the truth. Beats is just hype, it was always just hype and was selling with even more hype. The companies are getting wealthier, fooling us churning out lacklustre garbage and laughing at the buyers on the street
The real long standing products don't need hype, their price point and established quality does the talking
And as for having the celebs and influencers on the payroll, that is evil selfishness and dishonesty.
Your extremely valuable comments are a credit to this channel. I shake your hand Sir
Just like politics. Ignorant Lemmings jumping off a cliff.
Fantastically stated and 100% true.
100% Dead On Music Brother 👍👍
Nice systems, powerful but for inside use it is one of the best p.a.
And now with firmware update, you can pair 2 systems for stereo !
tweets on the floors are for the dogs/cats 😊
bang on!
Wait you have another video that says this was THE BEST and blew the pro 16 out of the water. What’s going on here???
Its all explained in the upload!