Played the Sequential Circuits OB-X recently and was astounded at how wonderful it sounded with no effects at all, always the mark of a great synth. This plugin gets some of the flavour of it, might well sound better live.
Yeah agree.. have a Prophet X and without effects it just sounds breathtaking. Those Rossum-designed stereo Prophet filters. I don’t care what anyone else thinks about hardware vs software, the PX has an unbelievable sound. The Softube Prophet 5 sounds lovely too. But i’ve never heard anything sound like the PX. Even my Jupiter-8, i put oscillator samples of the Jup into the PX, and it’s the most beautiful pad i’ve ever heard. (Incidentally i’ve owned my Jupiter since the 90s, i’m not a rich person who judges sound based on sunk cost.) But honestly i don’t care how much a plugin sounds like the vintage, as long as it sounds great, which this plugin does, i think.
I'm glad you mentioned the difficulty of attaching a hardware controller to a "next patch" control in VST synths, this "small" thing is very important for usability, and it seems to be overlooked by the industry as a whole, it would be great if everybody could get together on standardizing this functionality. I wonder if the "CLAP: plugin format makes it easier to do?
CLAP doesn't (and can't) solve this. All they had to do is let you map CCs to the next/previous buttons, and you could use any MIDI controller with assignable buttons to trigger them. And no, we don't need MIDI 2.5 or even 2.0. This can be done with MIDI 1.0. GForce just didn't make those buttons MIDI triggerable.
It’s definitely warm like a CS 80. But it has a little more melancholy and grit and perhaps it’s smokier. Check out the Terminator soundtrack for reference.
@@kristianborisov5928 The filter is similar, but most of the other features are different. I suppose it would be an interesting exercise to create sounds on one, then try to copy them to the other, to see how close they can get. No doubt they share some lineage, but the workflow is very different.
Its hard to explain but i never heard plugin that sounds in anything authentic to real deal, but on other side if making music is your goal, which is what most people are into, then realism is not a question, but rather is it sounding good and inspiring, and the answer is yes.
@@mattsmith1440 I envy you on this. I certainly can be fooled without doubt. I was doing numerous blind tests of various gear online and in most cases real deal is always feel more alive, raw, focused in low end and punchy. But i can agree that technology went far and some plugins are amazing how they sounded 10+ years ago. uhe Repro is awesome.
@@st0rmchild I`m glad that they do that for you. For me they just dont, especially analog processing units such as eq, compressor etc. Once you hear them live and comparation its uncomparable. Still i think plugins can do so much stuff that analog cant even think of, but lets be honest, it can never sound like a real deal, not even close.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver Let's be honest, you're going to believe that no matter what evidence you're presented with, so it's not gonna be worth my time to attempt to dismantle your faith.
Is this a joke, or do you actually think the number of keys drawn on the screen represents the actual voice range? Nobody plays it by clicking the screen.
Depends on voices and your play , it can be but i like to limit at 8 voices as the original (i also how voices stealing clean heavy chords playing with long releases ) in that case it's on pair with evruything around , i've found it less hungry for exemple than softube stuff ... on pair with Zenology , a little less than roldan legend ... on pair with UHE Repro with HQ on and multiprocessing .
There are hardly any CPU hog VST's today. Any decent modern computer with an i7 or i9 core and 64 GB of memory can easily manage dozens of virtual instruments without flinching.
Wish it had poly unison. LFOs on every parameter is nice but no poly unison?! Even Nord Lead had that. The free Charlatan synth had that. The lack of a layer mode has me conflicted, on one hand too many synth plugins rely on layers to hide the fact it can't stand on its own with one layer... and I suppose it's authentic, since only OB-Xa and up had split/layer. But I do feel this synth would benefit greatly from a layer mode. I wonder if GF will be doing an OB-Xa plugin as well since this one definitely isn't trying to be an all-in-one like the OB-X8... Also, the X-Mod is not very musical at all... hope that it's accurate at the very least, because I'd hate to think they made it worse than the original. I understand that OB-Xa removed it, perhaps for good reason. Otherwise, it's a solid plugin. No clue how close it is to the original scientifically speaking, but it certainly sounds good. And definitely seems capable, especially with the XLFO stuff for going beyond the originals. And probably more efficient to make sounds for than OB-E, though that's a bloody good plugin too if you like fine editing. Speaking of that, aside from panning, you can't calibrate this OB-X plug on a per-voice card basis.. that's something you can with TAL and Synapse's emulations... so better hope the vintage knob is as effective as other knobs we've seen on other synths.
I might have misunderstood what you meant by "layer mode", but surely loading more than one instance in your DAW would go a long way to very easily create layers of this synth, and would probably solve your other request also?
Must admit Batt is one of the few reviewers who can make VSTs watchable. No mean feat.
Definitely getting the OB vibe 100%. It's uncanny.
Played the Sequential Circuits OB-X recently and was astounded at how wonderful it sounded with no effects at all, always the mark of a great synth. This plugin gets some of the flavour of it, might well sound better live.
Yeah agree.. have a Prophet X and without effects it just sounds breathtaking. Those Rossum-designed stereo Prophet filters. I don’t care what anyone else thinks about hardware vs software, the PX has an unbelievable sound. The Softube Prophet 5 sounds lovely too. But i’ve never heard anything sound like the PX. Even my Jupiter-8, i put oscillator samples of the Jup into the PX, and it’s the most beautiful pad i’ve ever heard. (Incidentally i’ve owned my Jupiter since the 90s, i’m not a rich person who judges sound based on sunk cost.)
But honestly i don’t care how much a plugin sounds like the vintage, as long as it sounds great, which this plugin does, i think.
What the CS-80 was for BladeRunner, the Oberheim OB-X was for Terminator. I think G-Force did a fantastic job on this.
I was going to say that the opening patch was very CS-80 like...
It's was a OB-Xa on Terminator, not a SEM anymore but a 12/24 db
@@jno8039 so curtis filter right? They are like the prophet has
very nice to hear about the sound designers!
I liked the bit when you said “we’ve got a
Vintage knob “…….bob on that 👍
I'm glad you mentioned the difficulty of attaching a hardware controller to a "next patch" control in VST synths, this "small" thing is very important for usability, and it seems to be overlooked by the industry as a whole, it would be great if everybody could get together on standardizing this functionality. I wonder if the "CLAP: plugin format makes it easier to do?
give it 20 years... midi 2.5
CLAP doesn't (and can't) solve this. All they had to do is let you map CCs to the next/previous buttons, and you could use any MIDI controller with assignable buttons to trigger them. And no, we don't need MIDI 2.5 or even 2.0. This can be done with MIDI 1.0. GForce just didn't make those buttons MIDI triggerable.
I do recall discussing this with someone who knows and I dont think its as simple as it sounds - cant remember the details...
Great run-through. Thanks so much for video and good to see you wrist seems a bit better. Thomson Twins! 'Love on your side' was a cracking single. 👍
just bought it, its got a very lovely tome on all patches
Let's go Nick!!
Sounds beautiful. Thick!
17:18 Creepshow OST. Oberheim all over that soundtrack.
OB-E was the first indorsed
Ironic that Nick played Blade Runner, I though this synth sounded like a CS!
It’s definitely warm like a CS 80. But it has a little more melancholy and grit and perhaps it’s smokier. Check out the Terminator soundtrack for reference.
sounds reaaaally good!
I wish my real OBX (a) back in the day could have made some of these sounds.
Yeah got this one right away...
No Variable State Filter? Well they added more than the OB-X8 had but didn't beat it by not matching the filter modes.
Yeah hopefully V2 will add the full sem filter , poly unison and split as well
@@Death_By_Media yes I wish for it too!
That sounds amazing for a virtual synth. All they need to do is correct the control problem with maybe midi 2.0 and we're there
What advantages (if any) does this have over the OB-E?
Different synth. They sound different and have very different feature sets.
@@st0rmchild Aren't they both based on SEM filter, and shouldn't they sound close to each other? Where does the difference come from?
@@kristianborisov5928 The filter is similar, but most of the other features are different. I suppose it would be an interesting exercise to create sounds on one, then try to copy them to the other, to see how close they can get. No doubt they share some lineage, but the workflow is very different.
2:24 CC 96 & 97 (like Nexus)
Its hard to explain but i never heard plugin that sounds in anything authentic to real deal, but on other side if making music is your goal, which is what most people are into, then realism is not a question, but rather is it sounding good and inspiring, and the answer is yes.
In a bind test, I think there are now some plugins around that you couldn't say if they were hardware or software. And not just digital synths 🤣
@@mattsmith1440 I envy you on this. I certainly can be fooled without doubt.
I was doing numerous blind tests of various gear online and in most cases real deal is always feel more alive, raw, focused in low end and punchy.
But i can agree that technology went far and some plugins are amazing how they sounded 10+ years ago.
uhe Repro is awesome.
There are plenty of plugins that sound nearly identical to the hardware.
@@st0rmchild I`m glad that they do that for you. For me they just dont, especially analog processing units such as eq, compressor etc. Once you hear them live and comparation its uncomparable.
Still i think plugins can do so much stuff that analog cant even think of, but lets be honest, it can never sound like a real deal, not even close.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver Let's be honest, you're going to believe that no matter what evidence you're presented with, so it's not gonna be worth my time to attempt to dismantle your faith.
Arps of Jar Jar Binks.
10:44 18:00
An OB-X with 3 octaves only? No go.
Is this a joke, or do you actually think the number of keys drawn on the screen represents the actual voice range? Nobody plays it by clicking the screen.
@@st0rmchild You guessed it. Just kidding.
@@Kaffimusic Haha now I don't know why I took it as a serious comment.
Is this a DSP hog?
Depends on voices and your play , it can be but i like to limit at 8 voices as the original (i also how voices stealing clean heavy chords playing with long releases ) in that case it's on pair with evruything around , i've found it less hungry for exemple than softube stuff ... on pair with Zenology , a little less than roldan legend ... on pair with UHE Repro with HQ on and multiprocessing .
onion fart
Runs fine on my 2012 quad core i7 mini if that helps
There are hardly any CPU hog VST's today. Any decent modern computer with an i7 or i9 core and 64 GB of memory can easily manage dozens of virtual instruments without flinching.
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Wish it had poly unison. LFOs on every parameter is nice but no poly unison?! Even Nord Lead had that. The free Charlatan synth had that. The lack of a layer mode has me conflicted, on one hand too many synth plugins rely on layers to hide the fact it can't stand on its own with one layer... and I suppose it's authentic, since only OB-Xa and up had split/layer. But I do feel this synth would benefit greatly from a layer mode. I wonder if GF will be doing an OB-Xa plugin as well since this one definitely isn't trying to be an all-in-one like the OB-X8...
Also, the X-Mod is not very musical at all... hope that it's accurate at the very least, because I'd hate to think they made it worse than the original. I understand that OB-Xa removed it, perhaps for good reason.
Otherwise, it's a solid plugin. No clue how close it is to the original scientifically speaking, but it certainly sounds good. And definitely seems capable, especially with the XLFO stuff for going beyond the originals. And probably more efficient to make sounds for than OB-E, though that's a bloody good plugin too if you like fine editing. Speaking of that, aside from panning, you can't calibrate this OB-X plug on a per-voice card basis.. that's something you can with TAL and Synapse's emulations... so better hope the vintage knob is as effective as other knobs we've seen on other synths.
I might have misunderstood what you meant by "layer mode", but surely loading more than one instance in your DAW would go a long way to very easily create layers of this synth, and would probably solve your other request also?