Dune: Part Two - Angry Movie Review
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex implore you to go out and see the engrossing sci-fi epic DUNE: Part Two! Here is our Review!
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Just imagine for one second that this film cost LESS than Red Notice... It´s just baffling
Unbelievable 😮
🤯
That's what happens when the people doing the budget syphon off money to people they know, like $5 million for the catering budget etc, then the catering company syphon's £2.5 million into a swiss bank account for the person who budgeted the catering who then syphon's £1.5 million back to the producer who green lit the total budget. Hollywood is very much a money laundering scheme.
I mean they probably gave half of the budget to the actors just off rip
Dude what? That movie was such absolute ass I can't believe it cost that much. Seriously. I saw it but couldn't tell you the plot at all.
Angry Joe is a real one for shouting out Quinns Ideas, that dude's the truth
All that dude did was bitch and whinge he didn’t get an early screener of the first film lol
Timestamp?
@@gutzz1519 22:00
Quinn is the fucking man. It's been so satisfying watching how much he loves.the films
Too bad he got super political and far left
The black and white isn't just black and white, it's filmed in infra red. Don't know if I've ever seen that before.
You haven't watched kill billl?
It was absolutely breath-taking in the cinema !
the fireworks were real, that was just the heat from the fireworks being filmed through the infra red cameras
@@festo512 Kill Bill is just your standard b&w. This one was filmes in infra red
@@meurer13daniel the look the same. The infrared was nothing special.
Making Dune was Villeneuve dream for like 30 years, I remember in the 90s he was saying it was his dream project. it's not something that was improvised. Happy he got it right.
Yeah we will never have a conversation about dune without his name now
Can you prove he said that in the 90s? Link plz! I'd love to share it with my friends.
@@dills3671 I don't know, I would need to find old French interviews. I'm from Quebec and he became famous in 1991 winning a short movie competition. He was already showing his genius at that time. His short movies were really good.
he fixes some parts makes more coherence best director evee
Dinnes obviously dosen't like or understand Herbert Dune at all. It seems to me that he hates the subject matter
Totally disagree with the point of Feyd-Rautha being "neutered". First off, he comes across as a bit of a spoiled brat for the first half of the book, but more importantly, he used poison during the gladiator scene in the novel. He tried to use poison against the Baron to assassinate him. He used poison when he tried to fight Paul. To make it sound like he's this ultimate beast in the book and a fake warrior in the movie is way off. I found him to be way more imposing in the movie. Second, and more importantly, that wasn't a "regular dude" he was fighting. If you paid attention, you'd know that was Lieutenant Lanville and also the fight choreographer for the movie. He was mentioned by Idaho in the first movie and you see him doing some training. He is a highly skilled Atreides fighter. Baron leaving him undrugged was the perfect way to display just how brutal Feyd was.
Wasn't his gladiator opponent (an Atreides soldier) also conditioned to paralyze if the duel went south?
I completely agree with everything you said
@@floricel_112 Yep. And Freyd had to use it to survive.
@possessedbygenesis8585 complete agree!
@@vaughndelano I think people look at Feyd through rose colored glasses from the novel. He is very much like Paul but also the anti-Paul. He’s young, inexperienced, hungry to learn. But at the same time, he’s impatient and temperamental unlike Paul and also full of ego. The point of the gladiator scene is to show that this young power hungry kid grew up to be formidable, but still dependent on his crutches. I also loved the added scenes in the movie. I don’t want to spoil anything but his interaction with Rabban made me go holy shit he’s the real beast!
Correction: dune messiah is the 2nd book, children of dune is the third book.
The God Emperor was good also but I loved Paul of Dune even though the original author didn't write it. Takes place a year after Paul takes power unless Messiah which is 5 years I believe.
Correction: Dune Messiah is the 4th book. Dune has the first 3 books in the novel.
yep and children of dune gets fucky real quick
@@sandlertossone1813 I believe Messiah is 12 years later
Correction: y’all haven’t a clue
DUNE was a big "inspiration" for STAR WARS: A desert planet, the force and its mental powers, an emperor and Dath Vader, as the fallen hero.
Yep, and while Dune came first, it has elements of Andor (political themes, character development, more mature writing), with the mainline saga (for the reasons you mentioned), and The Book of Boba Fett (sand dunes, protagonist joining sand people who help induce visions and fight against enemies wanting to control the spice).
@@matthewk4912
That Boba Fett show wasnt even trying to hide that derivative spice plot
Yeah but Star Wars totally lacked the "heavy stuff" like oracular powers that bring jihad terror to untold millions. Powers that were partly bestowed by eugenics and manipulation of bloodlines that stretch in time, and also by a substance that is so powerful it allows interstellar travel without resorting to banned artificial intelligence and other trippy stuff. Oh and the inversion of the savior hero journey trope on its head (spoiler: Paul's not Luke Skywalker in the original trilogy, not by a mile). The inspiration is pretty surface level if you ask me. But I'm more of a Dune fan than Star Wars/Star Trek fan....
@@azmodanpc And Warhammer 40k
More than you probably realise. There is a documentary called ‘Jodorowsky’s Dune’, where a crazy genius filmmaker tried to make it in the 70’s.
The group involved went on create the Alien franchise and influence pretty much EVERYTHING that followed.
It’s unbelievable 👍
I had to pee halfway through and it took all of my Bene Geserit training to hold on until the end. I did not want to miss a minute of it.
Same, actually.
I wore a stillsuit muah ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
Saaaaame
@@michaelray5023 😂😂😂
i PEED TWICE. Once during the kissing scene, and once again right before the last battle.
The "third guy" Feyd fights in the arena was one of Duke Leto's generals and blade masters - or whatever their rank is, he is actually in the first movie in a couple of scenes like the war council etc. thats why Feyd was pissed at the Baron and thought he wanted to kill him.
Baron did definitly want to kill him cause he was psychotic and desires to kill the Baron! and his position. Baron is very clever in either scenario he would come out on top and knows exactly how to play Fayd. If Paul was not op as fuk with precinct ability knowing where, when to strike and the narrow path to victor for sure the Baron would have achieved his objectives. In some ways that outcome would have been better for all as it would have saved billions of lives.
He was not general, Feyd fought some guy who was "trained" by duncan and gurney
@@Yukon.72 watch the first movie again he’s not “some guy”.
@@Yukon.72 Nah that guy is literally is one of the Atreides top commanders. And it's mentioned by the Baron's mentat in the first movie that the Atreides commandos are arguably the best trained soldiers in the universe, rivaling the sardaukar. In a fair fight (if he had a shield and armor/wasn't being held prisoner for months) that guy probably would've killed Feyd. Duncan Idaho and Gurney are also arguably the two best warriors in the universe, both could beat Paul. And of course he was trained by those men.
Alex nailed it when he said a lot of people and other media stood on the shoulders of Dune. Frank was a genius in his writing and world building.
He was truly blessed with a son who shared his vision and understood the depths of his work.
@@sandlertossone1813 I saw what you did there, have a thumbs up... ;)
@sandlertossone1813 huh?
What astounds me is I thought the first was grand in scale. The second was an absolute leviathan.
Crazy in IMAX man
Riding on the sand worm with Paul was insane.
And im bet itll be even crazier in dune messiah
My God you have never watched a good movie in your life. Dune Sucked.
@@jeremymarsh1377 point to where my comment said anything other than it was grand in scale. 👍
Scale in this context = size/scope.
Leviathan is synonymous with huge.
Huge in size. Huge in scope.
In fact, I don't think a single comment said anything other than commenting on the huge parts of the film...
Man when Paul was riding the grandfather worm the way the sandstorm was really made me get a feel of what he was going through. Gave me mad chills
AGAIN IT IS THE LEGEND!!!!!!
@@UporaFilms what?
@@mr.lightzplease9366 smh, you never watched David Lynch's version?
@@UporaFilms I don't think 99.9% of the people knew what Dune was before this movie series. I was and honestly I found part one decent to good, and I found part 2 sucked. Too many changes that made no sense at all. Chani completely rewritten from base up. Jamis had no children or wife....depending on how far they take this sad to leave them out. CHOAM basically doesn't exist. Haven't even seen a guild navigator, which is why the spice is important to begin with. Bene Gesserit are very very weak in this series, they are almost jedi in the books. Stilgar is an idiot I don't know why. Paul is a weak man who can't make his own decisions. Aliyah not even born. Paul is now the abomination and not the Kwisatz haderach....As I go in I recall the Lady Jessica saying "we, we, we, we" when even referring to her past lives. Bene Gesserit train their entire lives for this not to be a thing. As we all learn with Aliyah.
IDK the final icing for me was when they randomly run on the ships of the great houses and take off. Still no meeting with CHOAM. Also people were very scared of Paul beating the emperor and baron at once. Not everyone was in rebellion. Those that did were rather swiftly defeated.
Villeneuve said that part 3 will be the last he films, as it completed Paul's story
And I’m gonna be honest, that’s probably where it should stop. I am not a big fan of the later books but they become increasingly more “impossible” to film. Make the films Paul’s story and just end it. No need to milk it more.
@@ldunver once they get to Children of Dune, they can switch to a Tv show format and it would probably work in good hands...
I dont know much of the Dune universe outside these two films but I would honestly like more of it.
The Preacher in Children of Dune disagrees.
source?
Feyd Reutha definitly didn't feel neutered. It is well established in both book and first film that Atreides soldiers are actually insane. They are only really threatened in 1:1 combat by Sardaukar, who are the most feared fighters in the universe (until the Holy War). Feyd being able to 1v1 one of them not on drugs sets his physical strength up well. And then he undergoes and succeeds the gom jabbar test, showing his mental fortitude to be on par with Pauls aswell.
I would have loved to see Feyd during the Gom-Jabbar test, to see him how he reacts and endures the pain like is he shocked by it or he actually revels in it like a true madman but sadly it was done off screen. A shame, I found Feyd WAY MORE compelling and scary than in the books.
Feyd is easily one of my favorite dune characters. A psycho but still having some kind of code along with being a great fighter. Even in his dying moments he told Paul that he fought well
@@solidskullz5736 which was out of character since he threated his uncle after he found out one of them weren't drugged.
@@ompatel5570 You must misunderstand the character to a degree if you think that was out of character.
@@BloodyMunchkin Im going off the movie. It doesn't make sense how he respects paul for winning while also getting mad that his uncle did not drug a fighter while he had armor.
The same was said about The Lord of the Rings trilogy, it can't be adapted, and here we are, Dune is walking the path. Saturday can't come soon enough, I hope I love it.
Yep, can't be done always just means it hasn't been done yet.
It’s walking a path… definitely not the same path as lord of the rings… but it’s walking a path… into a marsh… some people don’t like to be wet and dodging alligators
Yup. Nothing unadaptable. Just wrong people working on the adaptation.
Idk god emperor of dune rly may be unadaptable LMAO
Best experience ive ever had in a movie theater
A 10/10 from Alex? Damn I gotta see this thing
You have too, it is a spectacular
The glazers are glazing hard . Don’t be surprised if you’re bored
@@dogsbreakfast4952 if you find the movie board that’s OK, not everyone likes the same movie but personally, I love slow paced movies. I think they’re great and this was a masterpiece to me.
@dogsbreakfast4952 just got back from seeing it. Dune 1 bored me when I first saw it (I appreciate it more now, but it is still too slow for me), but this movie was NOT boring. Was it long? Yes. Did I have to hold me pee for way longer than I wanted? You bet. But it was worth it. There are some nitpicks I had, but overall it was epic.
@@dogsbreakfast4952lol you havent even watch it yet.
As someone who read the books I really like that the Fremen aren’t a monolith when it comes to the prophecy. Arrakis is an entire planet and we can’t even all agree as a country so it makes sense to me.
That was a nice touch.
Yea it’s the subtlety of the writing that makes this movie great… there’s no gay black lesbians talking down on masculinity 😂
Don’t jinx it man.
@@CreedM8 its so funny how you neo natzis hate everything that isnt white and straight,and somehow you missed the entire plot of dune being one of the most ''woke'' works of fiction,its impressive
I would have picked “Charles dance” as the emperor. He brings gravitas as a baddie
Damn why’d you have to mention it. Now I’ll forever be angry that he wasn’t the emperor lol he would’ve been perfect. Shame he doesn’t get too many roles anyways he was amazing as Tywin
I was thinking Hugo Weaving ! Charles dance would also be better than Walken
Damn! My mind is blown. That would have been awesome. Although I cannot imagine Charles Dance kissing the hand. lol
The thing is you need to see someone else and not Tywin...
I think the idea was to have someone that was not imposing to show how they weren't the one calling the shots. That being said, casting Walken was still too distracting for me.
My favorite part was when the Emperor told Paul Atreides, “Walk without rhythm, and it won’t attract the worm. If you walk without rhythm, you never learn” and then danced throughout the palace.
😂
for some reason i was just sure this was going to end with its morbin' time.
and then he said "needs more cowbell.."
@@adidab14 Like that part where Paul says "It's Duning time" and he Duned all over the place?
Truly was a movie ever made
Does no one remember Christopher Walken in the Fat Boy Slim, music video; Weapon of Choice? - "If you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm." I feel like this is an inside joke, I'm the only one who gets.
The guy he fights at the gladiator game was a high ranking officer if I remember correctly and was basically one of the top swordsman in the galaxy.
Shoutout to Joe for giving Quinn's Ideas a boost, he's a Dune lore master.
I really like Christopher Walken’s Emperor. It reminds me of his work during the time he won an Oscar for “The Deer Hunter”. Before he became better known for his “Walken-isms”…
I didn't mind how they changed Cheney's character. I agree that her new position being antagonistic to the religious aspects of Paul's ascension was a nice contrast to the rest of the story, but I didn't like how Zendaya played the character like she was a 22 year old college student from California and not a fremen from Dune. Evenrytime she contested the prophecy she sounded like someone from today criticizing the issue and it took me out of the story.
Herbert himself hated how people loved Paul as the moral of the story is to not believe in prophets etc. Hence Dune Messiah. So if that type of criticism takes you out of it you don't understand what Herbert's point was. Again, hence why Messiah was written.
That's precisely the point my man. Everybody was seeing Paul as a mythical larger-than-life figure, and throughout all that Chani always saw the man, not just because she was "bitchy" (and I mean that in a derisive tone from the way people are referring to her), but rather because of all Fremen she was the one who truly knew him as a person and saw beyond the "prophecies" both before AND afterwards when religious zeal really took over everybody.
Chani represents, in this movie, the sort of skepticism that Herbert wished to convey as ideal, because for all the ease with which people get swept up in the grandeur of others to end up following them blindly, lots of tragedy follows.
Must be added, at the end, the straw that broke the camel's back wasn't the religious thing itself, but rather also a very personal issue of Paul playing politics to elevate himself by marrying Irulan, while leaving her behind in the process. It's not that his actions weren't logical there, but rather that as logical as they were, they were still hurtful.
Also, dare I say, the portrayal of the female characters in Dune hasn't aged the most gracefully. In this film they gave them much more agency, even while revolving around Paul and the consequences of his actions, WITHOUT fundamentally changing their role in the story.
@maxi1ification ........There are literal space Nuns who manipulate the politics of everyone in the universe who have superpowers. Get out of here with that "current age" clap trap.
I am a HUGE Dune fan and this movie was good and beautifuly made with great scenes and music score.
However, plot wise, this movie is quite empty.
No one knows what Spice is and why is it so important.
Spacing Guild, one of the most important power players are completely missing and nothing is explained about them.
The whole Kvizatz Haderach thing is vage and no one knows what the hell it's about. The Prescient vision, genetic memory are not explained enough for non book readers to understand.
The Mentats are a throwaway, Thufir Hawatt is not even un this movie.
Chani and her feminist group of Power Puff girls rudiculing Stilgar, a Naib of Sietch Tabr, calling him somehow stupid and a radical would never happen in Fremen society.
Emperor and Princess Irulan are throwaways and Emperors reason for killing the Atreides is beyond stupid.
The whole Dune universe seems small, with couple of planets, and nothing is explained or even mentioned about the Butlerian Jihad, the ban on technology, the Rise of the great schools like the Guild or the Bene Gesserit.
The life cycle of the worms and its relation to the Spice is completely thrown out of the movie and not even mentioned.
Alia of the Knife is not even born in this movie and that suggests that it's been less than 9 months since the downfall of House Atreides and Pauls venture in the desert and not 4-5 years like in the book.
Paul and Chani never had a son etc
The list goes on.
I an sure the director could've given us nore exposition instead of wide shots of sand dunes with epic music.
You masterfully explained what has been on the tip of my tongue since seeing the movie. Looked great, sounded great, was in awe of a lot of it, but the main thing I was thinking about when it was over was the complete lack of a Spacing Guild. Mentats were never explained in the first, I was expecting some explanation in this one. None. My girlfriend hasn't read the book and she didn't enjoy it. I could see how she wouldn't, there's way too much missing for a completely new person to grasp this thing. The Emperor was this pathetic old man... The Paul vs Fayd scene was so much better in the 1984 version. And spice is literally just a Mcguffin... No real exploration of how it's important and why.
I was underwhelmed. It was too long as well. Just a lot missing and too much focus on stuff that wasn't integral to the worldbuilding.
I agree with you entirely, but the majority of non book readers will call us snobs for having this take. Overall the film was enjoyable at times, but it really left a lot to be desired. The whole movie almost felt like a montage of the book rather than a direct adaptation.
This is what books are for, I feel like you're comparing the strengths of books against the weaknesses of movies. 50% of the film would have been explaining stuff, and audiences don't want to be talked at for hours on end. Denis understands you need to show a story, not explain a story.
@@SwisskiesI disagree, to me the balance was clearly off. There were far too many scenes where the emphasis is on the mood, the surface level stuff. And so many scenes where time was wasted on some extra beauty shots, mood shots, cheesy dialogue. All of that can be important, but in this film it absolutely came at a cost, because at the same time it felt like the story itself was rushed, many things just jumped into the next thing and into action where far more depth and explanation was needed, and a lot things (such as the priestessess and whatnot, whom I'm assuming are basically behind all of what is happening really, or maybe not since we'd rather keep them mysterious than involve them in the film in a meaningful way) were left unexplored almost entirely, leaving the bits we did get from those things feel rather arbitrary, and just a waste, rather than something more meaningful. All of this extends the run time, without adding enough meaning and impact. The wrong things have too much the focus here. The film feels rushed, yet incredibly slow.
I'd also say there was a fair bit of explaining, rather than showing, which is opposite of what you are saying. So much so, in my opinion, that it caused some of the above mentioned issues. Many times, the explaining/exposition was done on things where it didn't need to be, and yet the showing wasn't done with things that needed much more to be shown. And, some explaining needed to be done with things that didn't get explained at all. Really, rather messy pacing and storytelling.
I clearly haven't read the books, so this is not a book reader's opinion. Yet, this film feels incredibly overrated to me. It felt thoroughly shallow. There were even times where it felt ridiculous. Some of the worship scenes and moments felt almost like Life of Brian rather than a serious film (this is a slight exaggeration, for the sake of painting a picture). The worms are just plot devices now, used whenever. Is spice still an important factor here? The final battle started out of nowhere, yet ended even faster. Why should I care about any of it anyway, I don't care about anyone participating in it. None of the characters are appealing (perhaps so on purpose, but then there is zero emotional connection to anything). Acting is just mediocre at best, cheesy at worst. I was surprised how much I felt like I was watching something that really was meant to be a bit cheesy and quirky and over the top, only forced into a frame of a super serious over the top dramatic cinematic audio visual spectacle.
No weirding module? The new dune movies are just garbage.
For complexity, he could've not deleted the dinner scene in the first movie and all the other houses.
Indeed. Misses out on so much not having that scene. Or not casting a twink as the saviour of Dune, and a plain jane as the desert rose.
The spacing guild missing too. The miniseries fit more story in less time.
@@Erebusmcthe miniseries wasn’t exactly by the book either. Princess Irulan never attends the dinner scene in the book like she does in the miniseries.
That's the scene where we find out how dangerous Kynes is. I didn't feel like that character was really explored in Dune I.
@@BattleMatt how dangerous Kynes was? What are talking about? Dr. Kynes was never dangerous. The only thing that ever mattered about Dr Kynes was his ideas and philosophy for Arrakis future
@@Erebusmca twink? You mean a young, wiry actor (Oscar nominated at that) shouldn’t have played a thin, teenage boy? The fuck? Who’d you have in mind, Chris Hemsworth? Did you even read the book?
$100 for a wallet to me is not cheap.
It's not cheap, but I will attest that Ekster makes a damn fine wallet.
@@NelsonStJames Why buy a wallet when you got pockets?
First we get the Dune messiah and later we are going to get the Marvel messiah. Who would have thought we would get two messiahs in the same year.
And lastly the chicken massala
And the the actual messiah comes down because we blow each other up.
Can you imagine Marvel releasing a Deadpool movie as weird and plot intricate as the Dune universe? It would be insane
marvel is boring and old news now
@@sangeetsubedi9509 same with star wars! Oh how the turns are tabled.
I'm a huge fan of Quinn's ideas, awesome shout out for him Joe
Yeah, Quinn was the voice in the wilderness keeping Dune enthusiam alive when nobody was talking about Dune.
What’s crazy is I wish the movie was longer cause it’s soo good I wish we had more scenes to explore in depth even more. My only real gripe about the movie is Walken. He feels so out of place and adds nothing really and hard to see him as the emperor and not just Christoper
Space operas . . . now I want an epic adaptation of Dan Simmons Hyperion Cantos
this!
Imagine how insane Hyperion done by Villeneuve would be..
Hyperion is insanely good. Have yet to read the rest of the series. But am super hyped. People say they break down crying after they finish!!
"God Emperor of Dune" has already been adapted... in The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
Its clear the Emperor failed due to a distinct lack of COWBELL
Visually STUNNING, engaging, massively grand, beautifully sounded, well-acted throughout (even when some actors had low screentimes), VERY well paced, campy at times, and just INSANE. Dune Part 2 is not only better than Part 1, it's one of the best sci-fi films I've seen in the past 10 years. I'm glad that this is just a part 2 of 3.
I can’t wait for the 3rd film
Totally agree. It was magnificent.
You might need to wait a while longer for the 3rd though. DV said he needs a reset and will do something else first.
Well paced? 😂
Oh hell yeah! Love the Quinn's Ideas shoutout!
8:50 Alex review
75% of why i watch these.. i don't agreee with some of his pickiness but i do respect it
Alex is the man, love his constant blunt honesty and intelligent analysis
Real
Where's the oj timestamp?
31:02 my review starts here
Quinn's Ideas is great. Three Body Problem vids especially
what is three body ?
Three Body Problem by Cixin Liu ,
Phenomenal hard SciFi, Netflix adaptation coming soon
Get amongst the novels or the Chinese tv show quick smart
@@creatorsfreedom6734 Imagine an alien invasion story where we are being absolutely bodied by the invaders and they don't even show up.
The 3 body problem unfortunately isn't that good (Netflix adaptation) the cinematography is poor and the casting is terrible along with the acting.
Respect for the Quinn's Ideas shout out!
Certified shit like the Suicide Squad game and then a banger of a movie , the lord giveth and taketh
Or is it other way around.
@@musicaleuphoria8699 absolutely not, suicide squad wasn’t a shit game, but it wasn’t a great game either and Dune, in my opinion is on the same level of lord of the rings
Shogun on the same week too.
The thumbnail is wild, I love it lol
I've been looking forward to this review! I saw the film on Sunday, and it was great. Already planning on seeing it again!
They should of got Kyle MacLachlan (Paul Atreides in 1984) as the Emperor being over the top that would of been cool AF, or Patrick Stewart also since both were in the original
kyle maclachlan as older paul, not joking
Nah he would still be too old. The emperor is like 85 or some shit but he looks no older than 40 because of the spice.
@@WouldYouKindlyGWAR well that’s why I said they could choose Kyle, and use de-aging CGI if anything
Kyle as the Emperor would have been kino.
@@gertjanvandamme2068 Long live the fighters!
As the movie went on I became more and more terrified of Paul to the point that there was a voice in the back of my head hoping he freed the fremen but died. I was stunned at the end of the movie. I should’ve been crying at Paul’s betrayal of Chani but his character had me legitimately terrified
Just you wait then ;)
The movie amped up the scary side of Paul a little bit from the original book, which was a good change. Frank Herbert himself was annoyed when people thought his book had a happy ending.
At the end of the first book, it's made more clear that his marriage to the Emperor's daughter is part of a grander plan for power and is only a thing on paper. She will not be loved, or paid attention to, and Paul will only love and be with Chani even though they're not married. Not unlike Leto and Jessica.
Really kind of a sad fate for princess Irulan.
In the book, polygamy is a part of fremen culture. After Paul kills the warrior in the duel, he takes all of his property including his wife. So the emperor's daughter would be Paul's third wife.
@@PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs Well in the book he inherited the household of the Jamis, which means also his wife but he didn't want her so he made her simply into his servant tho. He married the Chani and she was his only wife except for the princess at the end. And yeah he actually planned this upfront with Chani. A bit of a pity they cut these parts off cause it showed a bit of how fremen culture works and all that but i guess it was a bit controversial today. And also the second movie felt a but like it should have been longer like some parts were way too simplified and speed ran so yeah i guess there wasn't enough room for side lore like this.
Alex ain’t wrong , this movie was definitely a 10/10 and I don’t say that lightly because I haven’t been to the theaters in months but this movie was visually pleasing , acting was amazing, score was phenomenal and that final battle literally gave me goosebumps by how good it was when the fremen are riding on sandworms into battle.
Most of all like Alex said , just the fact alone this movie was adapted to the big screen in such a respectable way was a feat in itself and is very ambitious not only that it managed to be better than the first movie imo. Deni also stated he didn’t just want this to be a movie but an experience, and an experience it was, touching ideas about philosophy, religion, destiny ect
The immersion of the movie is one I haven’t experienced in a long time and it definitely makes you wanting more the way ends, I can’t wait for dune: messiah and where it’ll go from there, movie was truly a 10.
Alex's glee right throughout this review is hilarious lol. Now i have even more motivation to watch this film!
Double feature at Imax was great, first part was much better on imax screen, liked it much more. When i walked out the cinema at the end after 6 hours it was like after I saw terminator 2 or Jurassic park in the 90's, I was mindblown. Good shouting out Quinns Ideas, I watch almost every video he makes, sci-fi is fun to think about 😁
Thanks for recommending quins ideas, it's a great channel and is getting me further into this series! I read the first year's ago and don't want to dig into the reading so his videos are a great way to get that sweet sweet lore, thanks again and great video!!
Just got back from the theatre. It is a masterpiece in every way
damn straight. It puts all of Star Wars and Marvel films to shame.
@@purefoldnz3070 for real. Like, any good sci fi movie I've seen before looks like an amateur fan film now. Every single frame in Dune 2 was pure art
@@purefoldnz3070 Really? Even the original trilogy?
The only and minor gripe I have is that the final act (beginning with the planning for the attack) felt somewhat confusing, as in it was difficult to keep up with the action after the slower pace of the preceding movie. It almost feels like they had to cut down some explanatory/context scenes to keep the runtime (more) limited.
@@LaRanaFel1z debatable since Lucas ripped off Dune wholesale to make Star Wars. But lets just say the Disney movies.
My dad and me used to always watch the 1984 movie by yearly. We watched dune part 1 and yesterday saw part 2 and its really nice to still be able to relive dune with my dad he loves it so much usually we dont go to cinema but Dune is just something special
Good work shouting out Quinns Ideas,
Best youtuber for scifi
This is the first time since seeing Lord of the Rings trilogy that a movie (or a pair of movies) is even approaching the same pedestal.
I really love the dark knight and planet of the apes movies but I’m in full agreement
Agree
Agreed
Not even close to LOTR. Overhyped to unreal levels.
But its really just one movie split. If there was a part two different story then we could compare.
I watched the movie and thought some imperialist's fever dream. Entitled kid got the universe because he was born rich and prophecy gives him everything. Everyone else in the galaxy exists to hand him everything. At first he doesnt want it, but then he does. Oh my. I wish everyone could be born special like that. Why is he the best fighter? He just is....
Gay
How do fremens dismount sandworms?
Dune Part 2 was magnificent. But the whole time I was thinking "What if Villeneuve made a 40K movie". They did such a great job with the scale of everything.
It's as close as we'll get imo.
Unless Henry Cavill pulls off
something spectacular
Edit: LASGUNS
Really cool for you to reference Quinn’s ideas. He’s such a good source for lore
Love the shoutout for Quinns Ideas. Also Nerd Cookies is another great source of DUNE lore videos and she has the most soothing voice on YT rofl
Tbh I don't want to see anything adapted past Messiah. I think that's a good ending point and some things should just be left to the imagination.
I don't agree since the essential idea of this series is seeing a powerful leader weaknesses and past Messiah movie is that one
100%. Paul walking off into the desert at the end of Messiah would be a very great ending to the films. We don’t need CoD, we definitely do NOT need anything adapted from God Emperor to Chapterhouse.
@@buzzkill753 I agree. Even though I would like to see God Emperor adapted. I am not sure if that is possible.
One of THE best movies of the year, for sure. I was blown away watching this one and couldn’t wait to see what the next scene held. Haven’t had a movie grip me like that since the first one. This director knows his stuff
LET'S GOOO! I'm so excited to watch this film in 1570 IMAX tomorrow!!
Woah, nice shout out to Quinn's Ideas! GREAT channel!
This got me shades of the Lawrence of Arabia (one of FHerbert's inspiration for Paul) movie. I feel like one of those "classic" blockbusters of a bygone age.
I just realized Dune is basicly Narcos Mexico in space. Figuratively speaking.
Love the shout out to Quinnns Ideas, FANTASTIC channel. It'd be cool to see a joint review/comparison/what is hopefully to come with him!
Great review.
No it’s more about how our government agencies place plants in other cultures and countries to destabilize it in order to control production of that said area. How war is planned and executed In order to control people
Lack of mentat scenes. Where was Thufir Hawat? And the change of Aliah is weird, will she still be Aliah if the Knife? 8.5/10 for me. The same with the first and the lack of Yue bacground and the banquet scene. Expecting Messiah to be the masterpiece of the trilogy.
I thought it was rushed too, and was generally anticlimactic, looks beautiful though.
Alex is right that the movie rushes, so what I see as the great triumph here is that they crammed a 12-episode season worth of book into less than six hours and made it work.
These movies were nice, but IMO I still feel the old clunky one was more interesting and epic.
Paul here didn't even gain\use the voice powers much and almost got killed in the last 1v1 fight..
I guess book fans will appreciate a more faithful adaptation, though.
Love the review and if y’all have time y’all should DEFINITELY watch Shogun. Definitely up yalls alley. Keep up the great work!
Saw it this morning after watching Dune 1 last night and got chills when he gave the pre war speech! It’s like our Modern day Star Wars and I’m here for it.
“Sit alongside Star Wars.” No, currently more like sit far above lol
Modern star wars? Oh no doubt
@@threelittlebirds2288 original starwars too, considering how much it stood on the shoulders of the 1965 novel.
It’s no where close to original 6 movies or LOTR. A skinny drip as the chosen one, could blow him over with a strong wind. He might take Harry Potter lol but nothing close to an anakin, Aragon or even a Neo.
@@CraigX100 over takes all of those.
@@CraigX100 Anyone who thinks that Dune Part 2 is worse than the prequel trilogy should have all of their film opinions disregarded immediately.
*Whenever Joe talks about source material* I just get the vibe he hasn’t read it 💀
Because he did not.
Joe is a hack
Usually Joe means
1) what my friends told me about the books
or
2) what the first movie/show I watched was like
Christopher Walken was distracting in the first watch-through, but after a couple more times it works so well. The emperor wasn't what I was expecting at all after watching Part 1, but that's probably intentional. He was made out to be dangerous and powerful and when you see him in Part 2, he's a frail, soft-spoken old man. So friggin good.
I just got back from seeing it too...
Oh
My
God
This movie is spectacular! Go see it in the BIGGEST screen possible ASAP Movie of the year, probably the decade. Perfect.
11:00 Book chani is not a character that is thanking paul for being white saviour. Neither is the book a white saviour story.
The changes they made to Chani & Fremen made the story worse, not better
the ending is offensive to the lore of the story. When you think you're clever and change the story but you're a crap writer. If you want to watch decent Dune then watch the miniseries from 2000. Has Alec Newman as Paul Altreides and James McVoy as Children of Dune
Everyone has the right to their opinion. I do not share the view that Christopher Walken falls short in “Dune 2” because he is recognizable and “just being Christopher Walken”. Every major recognizable actor in this film such as Josh Brolin or Zendaya would just be themselves then, as they too are “just” playing parts. As for perhaps “not looking the part”, Walken in my opinion does not have to look, say, as physically imposing. He can be the more calculating type of ruler as he is here, and channel the striking face of Walken’s character from “The Dogs of War”, a film that came out not long after Walken won his Oscar for “The Deer Hunter”-before he became better known for his “Walken-isms” thathave fueled so many impressions. I am grateful that Walken got the opportunity to be part of and grace this nearly perfect sci-fi spectacle of our current times…
Well in the book Feyd was actually never a true threat to Paul. It was all about just his will to carry on and do wat he must.
Besides that Feyd was more of a threat just because he'll cheat in a heart beat.
1:10 - Denis Villeneuve's surname is pronounced "Vil-nuhv"
There's a couple videos on UA-cam of him saying it specifically.
Who gives a fuck how you pronounce his name. He’s not writing an essay..
Neuve means new so him saying Villenew wasn't far off lol
It's almost a joke for them at this point. Like just learn the dude's name. He's one of the best directors right now and they constantly mock his name like it's in Latin or something.
I pronounce it vil-eh-nuhv, someone fight me
@Lovicide it's pronounced "Denny Villainoove" so you are saying it right
WB be like we are saving the theatrical movies once more
Too bad they couldn’t do that with the DCEU 😢
Directors like Denis are saving movies, WB writes the checks
@@mr.heisenberg1570 old regimes were trippin
While they simultaneously destroy gaming :D
@@mr.heisenberg1570 fck the dceu
The dcu and battinson verse are going to be fcking amazing
EKSTER makes some good minimalist wallets, I only have one issue and that is with the leather/vegan version. Dang thing can't hold any cards when tipped upside down. Now the metal version holds perfect.
Review Ninja Kamui please!! You are gonna love it
This movie had such cinematography, loved it
loved the movie, but wish they would have shown more of the large scale battle
Alex was going full lumberjack with that shirt. Very nice
Haha, that thumbnail is awesome, man.
Peter Dinklage as Bijaz in Dune Messiah!
lol I never thought of that one...
Now that’s something that I’d love to see
Idk did you see Hugh Grant play the Oompa Loompa with Chalamet?
I honesty dont know how someone who read the book can think about this movie as good. I am up for good "fight" if someone want to challenge me :)
Thank you I thought I was the only one we have to stand together. These movies look great and sound awesome but they fundamentally do not compare to the books story wise.
Low effort bait
@@justifano7046 sorry I dont understand what you mean?
Saw this in iMax yesterday. What an experience was hooked all the way through. One thing this review doesn’t really pick up on is the quality of many of the performances particularly Timothy as Paul Atreides, he is simply immense
In my region Dune 2's not released yet. But we do have a rescreening of part 1, and I watched it in an "IMAX Laser GT" theater. It's got the right aspect ratio, the screen is 20meters tall and is supposed to be the next best thing other than 70mm film. But I felt the giant screen only magnified the poor resolution. It looked blurry as hell.
Knowing part 2 is also filmed in digital I won't go out of my way in order to see it on "the largest screen possible" now.
Dune Part 2 is the Two Towers for this generation. 10/10.
Clearly can tell the dude who says they neutered “feyd-rautha “ hasn’t read the book. In the book Feyd, was a nothing. There wasn’t even a question. Austin Butler did an amazing job and elevated the character as a threat.
A lot of people are obssessed with Rautha. I don't get why
I thought Dune 1 was better overall. Dune 2 had a lot of great scenes but it dwelt to much on them attacking spice production and not enough on other aspects.
It definitely made me feel like I was on Arrakis watching this.
1:07 Villeneuve is said the same way as Jacques Villeneuve (the F1 pilot) just a quick search to know how to say it if its useful or interesting to you :)
Sorry but changing Chani's character to dumb down the original story to show people how religious programming on a desperate population works was so unnecessary when you know that Chani and Paul will have two children and Chani's death is a major plotline in the books.
This adaptation was only visually pleasing because the 1st movie left out too many things for newcommers to understand the world better and the second movie literally changed the story for no real reason so i have to say that the Dune miniseries in 2000 was a much better adaptation what stayed true to the book in many regards.
I am obviously a book reader, but i talked to many people who never read the books and they were clueless about way too many things so if the movie was made for them then it failed and if it was made for book readers then it also failed.
I am sure it will get many praises and awards because the movie industry is in an all time low but i am not impressed by this adaptation.
All it really did was fast forward to their relationship in Dune Messiah. The third film is going to have that same three way relationship drama between Paul, Chani and Irulan in the second book. From a story telling standpoint this will work better to gel part 2 and 3, meeting Herberts vision.
Lol this isn't an issue of not being faithful to the source material, it's an issue of it not being faithful to YOUR interpretation of the source material.
@@justifano7046
It is not my interpretation when nowhere in the source material was Chani against Paul making a choice.
Do you know who is the father of Chani in the book?
Do you know what his father planned for Arrakis?
Do you know that Chani believed in that plan, just as all the fremens?
So why would Chani ever turn against Paul's decision when it benefits all fremen and it gives them exactly what they want?
If they ever make Cyberpunk movie I want this kind of cinematography, this kind of visuals.
The diretcor made Blade runner 2049
t’s called bladerunner 2049 and it’s incredible
I have amazing news for you from October 6 2017
@@k--music I’m talking about Mike Pondsmith’s Cyberpunk universe
@@bartoltolic Fair, I very much want that too. But you gotta be specific here, because 'cyberpunk' can easily refer to the genre as a whole, not just Pondsmith's creation.
@angryjoe First, thanks for another fun rwview.Har-koh-ens would be spelled Harkonens. The long "o" like CONE, SHONE, TOKEN, BROKEN, etc. sounds that way because of the placement of an "e" after a singular consonant. HAR-kon-nens is what Frank intended (and the English language for that matter). The second "n" makes Lynch's pronunciation incorrect... but, like any director, he chose to have it pronounced the way that he wanted it because the other way probably sounded awkward; admittedly, it does.
I have only five letters in my last name; it's Belgian but I've heard people try to pronounce it 5 different ways... only 1 of those is correct per English context and another is correct per Belgian context.
Joe he only ever wanted to do the first two books
Now the question is - who is going to successfully adapt "Hyperion" and "Fall of Hyperion"?
Wtf is that?
I actually think Hyperion would be more difficult to adapt than Dune! I’d be very curious to see who’d tackle it.
@@ManSeekingMeaning Yeah, everyone considers Dune hard to adapt cause of the inner dialogue, but the storyline is rather simple - the concepts/setting in Hyperion is way more complex. I agree.
Endymion?
@@Snackery24company in borderlands
The movie is a visual treat. But it is not a blood pumping ride, there are showcases of epic moments throughout the movie, but that is never done justice as I feel the dialogues / actions leading to it, to be lackluster and emotionally un-engaging.
The point is that the adversary only appears threatening but does not pose much danger to speak of. The Fremens look like scavengers but they can easily overpower the emperor's troop and also I am to believe that somehow in terms of tech they are superior while their culture showcases so many spiritual elements.
the main issue with dune is padding both movies needed to remove 20 30 min each from its runtime or fill them with actual story........
Is the spice guild navigator in Part 2? Is folding space even mentioned?
I can't wait to see it on Saturday!
If you want guild navigators, you'll have to wait for the adaptation of the second book, Dune: Messiah.
@@matiasdevaglia4541 Well Poo. I know they weren't in the first book BUT were in the 1984 movie AND the new movies took a few liberties....I was hopeful.... I'm excited to see an updated version of their wonderful weirdness.
I read the 1st book in the early 70's as a teen, saw the Lynch film in the theatres. I hope I don't get too old to see Messiah when it's ever released. LOL LOL
They've created their navigator design for the next movie already, but not in this one yet, I'm afraid.