2018 Suzuki GSX-S1000Z | Favorites & Fails
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2018
- When you ride as many different motorcycles as we do it gives you good perspective on a given bike’s strengths and weaknesses. And whether you’re shopping for your next bike or just want to be in the know, it’s helpful to get an experienced rider’s opinion. So as a quick way to convey the highs and lows of the bikes we’ve been riding we came up with this new video series. Favorites & Fails is exactly what the name suggests, a concise list of the good and bad for the bikes we’re riding.
This isn’t meant to be a comprehensive evaluation or road test-just a candid snapshot, delivered with the same sincerity and honesty we’d show to a friend that wanted our opinion on a given bike. Hopefully you find it helpful or at least informative. Don’t agree with us, or have a motorcycle you want us to put through the F&F wringer? Feel free to chime in with a comment below.
2018 Suzuki GSX-S1000Z by the numbers:
Base Price: $10,999
Displacement: 999cc
Claimed Wet Weight: 466 lb. (211.3 kg)
Fuel Capacity: 4.5 gal. (17.03L)
Measured Horsepower: 136.8 @ 10,720 rpm
Measured Torque: 74.3 lb.-ft. @ 9,340 rpm
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I've taken a while to reply because I wanted to test ride as many naked litre bikes as possible and this is my findings.(No bias)
KTM DUKE - monster torque, loads of electronic goodies but can get confusing to use. I noticed at certain rev ranges that the engine vibrates quite badly. I felt as though i was sat in the bike in a good position but the seat started to hurt after 30minutes. I love the looks but that's down to personal preference as it's subjective but if you don't like orange that's just tough! LOL
KAWASAKI Z1000- Again this bike felt quick and smooth it was quite deceptive but at lower speeds it felt heavy which tendered to disappear the faster you went. No confusing electronics (what you see is what you get) The bike was comfortable to ride too. Stopping power was down on the rest slightly which i put down to the weight. The bike looks very aggressive. I also tested the Z900 as well and liked that slightly better even though the bike was a little bit more cramped to ride.
BMW S1000- Lovely bike comes with loads of electronic goodies again (maybe to much) but each to there own. The motor was strong all through the range but I just felt a bit uncomfortable on it. I only had an hour on this bike so probably not enough time to get used to it. Stopping power was excellent. Again looks are subjective but the bike felt agile and light. Expensive to buy but quality build.
YAMAHA MT10- This bike felt like an animal it also sounded lovely, very similar to the Aprillia Tuono. It felt big to me but that's because it had a comfort seat fitted. The engine was very strong down low and mid range, a real wheelie machine. Lots of electronic goodies (this was the SP version) but the control gear on the handlebars felt a little clutered and took time to get used to. This bike had a thirsty engine and went through half a tank of fuel before i knew it. Fit and finish didn't seem as good as the other bikes but that doesn't mean it was bad it just felt like there was bits of plastic just stuck on it. Again looks are subjective but I prefer the looks of the MT09 personally. Stopping power was okay as well.
APRILLIA TUONO- What a bike and what a price! This thing was a rocket. Up close this thing is sexy as hell. The engine was very strong and just wanted to pull all day. Again loaded with electronics which for some will be totally irrelevant like pit lane limiter and launch control. Again I was only on this bike for over an hour and didn't have time to fathom out how they worked LOL. Riding position is very sporty and a bit cramped for me but not uncomfortable. Stopping power was excellent. Fit and finish superb.
SUZUKI GSXS1000- This was the biggest surprise for me as it was one of the last bikes to test (I never got to try a Triumph speed triple) but this bike has a bit of everything from the bikes listed above. I can see why Suzuki used this engine as it's excellent. I couldn't feel any vibration whatsoever. This bike is a real sleeper......meaning i didn't expect it to be this good (for the price). This bike is deceptively fast what makes it deceptive is the handling as it was good also. Riding position is on the sporty side but comfy. I was on this bike for half a day and my ass was fine. Brakes are not bad either. This bike is quite light also and couldn't believe how good it sounded with the standard can. Fit and finish was good, probably the best of the jap bikes that I tested. Not to many electronics but enough to play with and get you out of trouble. I was expecting a real twitchy throttle but to be honest the MT10 throttle response was the same if not worse. After an hour i didn't even notice it. Again looks are subjective but this is one of the sportier looking nakeds with an aggressive look.
Now to say that the best feature of this bike is the price is an understatement and to say that the bike isn't quite as good as it should be because it hasn't got a ambient air sensor is a crock of shite!
If was to buy any one of the bikes mentioned, regardless of money then believe or not the Suzuki would be right up there. Fucking ambient air sensor my ass.
If anyone's curious to what I ride at the moment it's a Yamaha MT09. I'm about 5.7" tall and weigh about 187 pounds. I've been riding motorcycles for well over 40 years and have been a former national motocross rider starting at the early age of 6 and not some journalist who's hung up over some ambient air sensor!
So make of that what you like.
very thorough and informative review. Thx a lot!
commenting on the last 2 paragraphs, I'd have to agree ... the guy whined a lot about nuthin, really ... good reviews btw
Haha Hell Yass
Great comment and info. The guy doing this review is like the guy that moves into your established neighborhood and starts making a fuss about all the little things that makes your neighborhood home. You see him coming and you’re like oh brother, here comes that new guy that’s pissing off all the neighbors lol
Superb Dean and kind of sums up all what I have spent hours and hours at the net and YT trying to figure out. Thanks !!
yes, the engine does not have a character, in other words, it does not break down!
UK Courier...i use this bike for work only
1000 miles a week minimum
159.000 Mileage at this point
Oil
Oil Filter
Air Filter
Tyres
Break pads
Only maintenance
But got to say it's a fun bike...
@@mrdealencar oh wow. That's some heavy mileage. Am a trucker with over 1mil kms. So I salute you sir for your love of riding. I ride long distances but not for work. Nuff respect. Please stay safe and 1luv.
@@mrdealencar just wow! I do 2000 miles a month here in the UK (I ride all year round), on a GS Adventure. I use it mostly for work, but 1000 miles a week in you’re case is impressive!
How are you finding the bike in winter? Have you got the standard or the F version? I would like to sell my GS and get the 2022 GSXS1000, but not sure what the bike will be like to ride in winter.
I've got the 750 and it's so smooth. Plenty of power.
So this bike produces quite a bit of torque and power. It gets good mileage. Its criticized for not having the right "character". whatever that is supposed to mean. Very vague and not supportable. Its very affordable, but it is hard to do wheelies on because its a bit too safe. Wheelies should not be done by amateur riders on city streets. Thats the reason why a lot of people hate people who drive sport bikes and understandably so. Some people don't like any bike that was not designed in the last 18 minutes. You don't know if its 74 degrees or 76 degrees. Who cares. If its hot open up your jacked and if it cold do up your jacket. Looks like a very good bike at a very good price.
1:10 I don't believe he's even taken a ride on that bike. That throttle response issue has already been taken care of. Nobody on a 2018 says they have that issue.
Watch MrCuba 🎯🎯🎯...or he just rode it around a parking lot
I was quite baffled when he point that out.
i did, but between fitting a PC V and G2 Tamer problems all gone. Snatch and constant speed hunting were the issues. It was running lean all the way to 8000rpm to meet tight Euro 4 emissions i believe. My 2018 Z is now what it should of been when purchased new. I gave the reviewer a bit of a serve also and like you i doubt he even rode it. The extra dollars i spent still make it worthwhile given both price and performance. The old k5-8 (with better tuning for street,as well as some more modern additions)long stroker is bullet proof and still considered one of the best R iterations.
@@777geemanThis is straight out the brochure " the old k5-k8 with better tuning for the street " let's just clear this up, at no point does this bike have better tuning or more torque or more power in the midrange like Suzuki were saying, a Dyno graph of both bikes shows this bike is down on power and torque at every point in the revs, it doesn't rev as high because the pistons and vales are made from cheaper materials and has a huge torque dip right in the middle of the midrange. I know this as I have owned the k6 gsxr1000 and currently have a gsxs1000. Mine is a 2016 so has the on/off switch they call a throttle, the suspension is horrid without changing the shock and new fork internals. Also mine vibrates at 5500rpm, the stock pads are rubbish, ebc HH pads are infinitely better.
Overall it's not a great bike from Suzuki
@@rich.dodd1 Ummm... of course it's not the same motor but the design is based on the same old k5-k8 (not is the same motor). I believe it dyno'ed at approx 136 bhp @ w. (Well down on claimed 150) If people want to go fast and are happy to pay for it they should get an R iteration. Like i said PC 5\throttle tamer fixed ALL my fueling issues. I agree about the brakes and suspension and was about to do something about that when a mint 2017 R1200R came along. BMW have one of if not the best electronic suspension in the business and obviously the difference is night and day between the two. Out of the crate it's has many short comings but as in all things you get what you pay for and the faults are redeemable at a price as long as you don't want to hoon round on the road like on the track. That's why the only Favorite given about this bike is the price.
One of the best naked bikes I've ever owned (and I have a SuperDuke 1290R and had a Tuono) The throttle issue was fixed with a throttle tamer and by adjusting some slack out of the cables. The motor is FAN FREAKING TASTIC. It makes power everywhere and returns crazy gas mileage. I have seen local dealers blowing these bikes out for $9500. The traction control is certainly intrusive. It kills the party immediately. That's the big downfall of the bike....but you can turn it off.
There was a leftover 2016 for sale for $7600. I almost bought it until I quoted the insurance. I tried multiple companies. I don't know if they don't have enough data on the model or if squids are killing themselves on them, but the insurance would have been more than the note. I noped out and got a Super Duke instead. If I'm going to be paying that much anyway... (Insurance on it is actually waaaaaaay lower).
forrysc nice bike collection! I have the GSX-S1000, n love it. You should do a real review video I would watch
Wow - with Super Duke being about $18,000 that insurance must have been very high. LOL
I always run my TC off. I put a power commander on and it totally fixed the throttle; 100% improvement.
I haven't noticed a snatchy throttle on my 1000z and i have to leave my TC on otherwise i risk losing my license several times a day. This guy is obviously ill informed.
i would say the opposite, an old well tested engine that everyone seems to love gives it character
"I live in Southern California, and I need to know whether it's 72 degrees out or 75 degrees out!" Are you fucking serious? You're the last person to need an ambient temp feature.
I wish they could make a sensor that let's me know if it's raining while I'm riding, that would be super duper helpful
Throttle on my bike is very smooth and progresive and for Inline four this engine have loads of character- induction noise is very addictive . For the money it's fantastic motorcycle who needs 10 stage traction control or electronic everything it's a motorcycle not a laptop. What I love about this bike as well it's fantastic tank range you can do 200 motorwaymiles to a tank if you not going crazy . It's a proper streetfighter missing only on quickshifter
lukaszg74 ....isn't that something which you can add regardless of what.
chinar jadhav yes you can but should be as standard
Agreed 100% lukaszg74!!! A quickshifter would ROCK on this machine!
Great post, lukaszg74. I'd have one. I may well do so.
lukaszg74 did you try the s1000r & Tuono? HEALTECH makes a quickshifter!
The K5 engine is one of the best Inline4 ever built, even after 13 years
Indeed. This is what makes the bike.
i CONCUR SUPERSONIC.... i just bought one just for the k5 engine alone. Its dope AF.
I have a k6 and it's the best road engine that's ever been in my opinion
Yes dude, K5 is a legendary motor and it's so uncanny that this guy doesn't have any clue of what it is and calls this motor characterless. So funny
I concur. That engine is responsible for the fastest 0 to 60 time ever from a stock bike. Still stands today
I went for a test ride on a 2018 gsx-s and MT10 (I live in UK so that is what we fz10 is named here) and I will have to deasagree with most of the things You saidin this video. Gsxs motor was more punchy from bottom all the way to the top end ruch (dyno charts prove that if you compere torque output per revs) same traction control on bouth bikes no IMU unit only wheel speed sensor crank throttle sensor and they work excellent on bouth bikes. Oddly suzuki's system here is a negative and yamaha's is a positive!? would U like to explain that!? if it's to intrusive swich it off or level it on level 1. I will agree that both bikes have a bit snuchy throttle response (yamaha's is much worst then Suzuki's) but a simple Ecu tune/Power commander tune will fix both bikes! I will say Gsx-s rear shock isn't to good but an aftermarket one will fix that plus steel brake lines are a must have. plus this bike has much better range then the MT10. I prefer the display gsx-s it's easier to change stuff with the buttons. all in all I liked the Suzuki more and I thought it was a better motorcycle. But after watching your videos on this two bikes I belive that Yamaha's promotional team is probably paying You more money than Suzuki's one... shame really
A Skuras. Brilliant post. The lad is talking shite.
👏👏👏
Marketing for yamaha haha
Totally agree with you A Skuras. With traction control off, there is absolutely no intrusion from the bike's electronics. Agreed about the snatchy throttle but as you said a custom tune and a PC will fix the problem not fully but about 80% of it so its not so obvious any more. I have the bike for a year now and with these mods, its tons of fun at an extremely affordable price tag!
He is not the only one... I see so many people kissing Yamaha's ass.. and hating Suzuki.. DESPITE Suzuki KICKING it's ass in nearly every category.
I appreciate the perspective shared, so thank you. I did get the opportunity to ride one for a couple of hours last fall, and cannot say that I had the concerns shared here. It's a very good bike with a very attractive buy price and one of a few that has not been beaten badly with the Transformer insectizoid stick. To each his or her own.
I really love this format
That was a good video through and through. Thanks!
Got a 2017 1000 ABS, and I love almost everything about it. The throttle "drag" took a little getting used to, the rear suspension isnt top of the line, but the pros greatly outweigh the cons. It is super fast. Super torky, and a very comfortable bike to ride. For the price, you couldn't find a better bike.
Great video! Concise, relevant and clearly presented!
Great segment... really enjoying the "favorites & fails"
Wow... Buttons? Really? Only plus is the price? I'm becoming defensive now since this old engine kicks ass of most of the other 1k bikes, 136 horses? Mine is pushing 150 stock... Traction control doesn't let you play? Your idea of TC and mine are very different, if I want to play I turn TC off. No idea what you guys were reviewing here. Not impressed.
zrogon my thoughts exactly..looks like Suzuki didn’t buy them the hookers and beer that Yamaha and Ducati provided with their review bikes.
he is talking about Rear Wheel Horsepower genius. Oh my butt hurt suzuki fan boy, with his 2005engine x)
@@MakTheSank leave them be, they're those who eat the brochure from the dealers believed those 150hp are on wheels.
Finally picked one of these bad boys up recently. A 1000 with TC and ABS for ~$10k OTD? No one else comes close. I've even seen other colors go for $2k-3k less. To say it offers good value is a gross understatement.
Addressing some of these fails, I would say the throttle is sensitive which I'd expect from a 1000 but I wouldn't call it snatchy or uncontrollable. The gauge control isn't complicated at all and to even mention it is a nitpicky fail. The engine has that classic GSXR howl and actually sounds good for a stock exhaust. So unless you're expecting the sound of an Aprilia V4 or crossplane motor, I don't know how you can call it a fail.
In my opinion, there are only 2 true fails and possibly a 3rd. First, the rear shock is a bit budget and I'm told can feel a little pogo-y depending on you're weight and sensitivity. At around 200 lb, I haven't noticed it but I haven't done any spirited riding yet either (still in the break-in period). Second, the engine ECU has been crippled a bit in the low to midrange to meet emissions. I doubt I would have ever known about had I not seen dyno figures as it feels like I'm being shot out of a cannon every time I ride it. Flashing the ECU though will apparently beat the original GSXR motor that it is based off of in terms of torque, get it close in terms of HP, and eliminate any noticeable snatchiness. Third, is athletics which is subjective. Maybe it looks like something that would have came out a decade ago but I think it looks fantastic especially when all blacked out. I have yet to see an aesthetically pleasing windscreen though which, being a naked capable of doing 170mph, you will definitely prefer to have.
I've got one handles great its got more power than you need on the road gear box is as close to perfection as it gets its give me 48mpg average its brakes do a excellent job the only legitimate criticism is the throttle response through tight corners is a bit off on easily sorted with a power commander it does lack posing ability but i don't buy a bike to make me feel adequate in other peoples eyes it's a blast to ride and it won't let you down
By "posing ability" you mean "really ugly" - you are mature.
i like the format. thanks for the effort and the sharing. thumbs up.
Good work ! I like the way you deliver your "program".
Which high performance bikes have a smoother on off throttle response? Please advise.
Great review!! Thanks for talking about a 2018 with good detail...
Good review thanks. Delicately phrased comments on the ‘you get what you pay for’ message.
i took the mt10, the super duke 1290 out for a long test run before buying my gsxs-f , yes the duke and mt were a bit faster and mader but only just, and the mt did 110 mile on the test and nearly ran out of fuel , im so glad i bought the zook much better all rounder in my opinion, and the mt throttle was just as snatchy as the zook but no one mentions it
Guilio When you say faster, is that top end or acceleration?
no not top end it just felt faster acceleration but not by much it just felt a bit more aggressive but that could be the noize of the engine and exhaust ,and it did want to wheelie more easily but i think that was more thr gearing
I am not a racer, but everything I have seen, the zook is faster on a track.
I test rode the 2018 GSXS1000Z and didn't have any issue with the throttle.
Overall the build quality etc was top notch. My only grasp was the size. I think it looks odd on a taller guy like me.
I just bought this bike and i have to say its the most fun I have ever had on a bike to date. Can't say I agree on anything negative said in this video except maybe the throttle but I got used to that really fast and now I don't even think about it. Im really happy with it =)
This reviewer lost me when he whinged about no ambient temperature control. WTF? You're sitting on a bike outside? This bike is incredible. Heaps of power, amazing milage and tons of fun. The k5 has no character? Did you try riding it above 5k?
I currently have a K3 SV650, and I am looking into the GSXS 1000 as my next bike. My main complaint with the SV650 is the lack of two more cylinders (I really like 4 cylinder engines) and the lack of top end power. Would the GSXS be a good second bike?
Is it *really* that much of a deal not knowing whether it is 72 or 75 degrees??? Most of us are lucky to get into the 40s at this time of year!
Phil Buglass I think he meant that to be funny!
He seemed pretty serious lol 😂
fernando I think that was part of what made it funny. Sort of like looking seriously concerned when asking, "Do I drive the Lambo or the Rolls today?"
He was being facetious.
Want some of my midwest snowdrifts, clouds, humidity, and wind?
Like your short and sweet, to the point presentation. I have that exact same model and totally agree with the throttle issues you mention. As soon as my bike's run in I'm getting a Power Commander V for it.
One 'fail' you omitted (though this is only my opinion) is the position of that grey rocker switch on the left handlebar. For someone like me who's been riding since the mid 80s, that switch is where the thumb operated headlight dip and high beam switch should be. The index finger operated light switch on this bike takes some getting used to.
One other thing I think worth mentioning is where you said the TC can be altered on the move. This might be true but it's worth pointing out that, according to the handbook, the throttle should be turned off when doing so.
Funny he doesn't mention the gearbox as a like too me it's probably one of the best I have ever come across on a motorcycle.
Great series. New guy has some big shoes to fill and he's doing great. Keep it up.
good job Spencer 👍👍
Beautiful honest appraisal. Wish more people like you. Some people so into sales promotion that it is not worth listening to.Thanks for sharing.Conclusion, just a standard bike for standard price.
Hey I know this might be a silly question but would it be possible to do a quick comparison or pros and cons of this bike compared to the Yamaha MT09 2018? or if anyone with knowledge in the could simply reply i'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
Good and accurate review. With a few minor upgrades this bike can be great. But for those who dont want to mess with upgrades, what bike do you recommend thats fun and affordable as a better alternative to this one?
Why does it only have 130+hp in the US? Are they still choking the motors or is that a measurement from the rear wheel? It's 150 in the UK.
good review
PcV with their stock map and tightening the slack cured 90% of the fueling/snatch out of it. I FUCKING LOVE this bike.
OMG - You cant tell if its 72 or 75 degress out? I HATE that!
He was joking. Dry humor
His lisp is giving him away.
Everyone complaining where is Ari and Zack, what's wrong with y'all?? We've all enjoyed the Motorcyclist magazine videos like no other mainly because of Ari and Zack but those videos were a treat for all us fans, top notch cinematography and this Guy is behind those works, why freak out when once in awhile he gets to review things. He is doing a phenomenal job here.
To all those people commenting "who are you"?,.. just think twice before doing that..
You should mention the vast aftermarket available for that K5 motor and the fact it is bomb proof even if you pump up the power a lot.
I don't know if your going on experience or what u have heard from others. However, i've recently brought one and i love it. It made the RS street Triple i tested look positively slow (The RS is a track bike). It's so damn powerful that TC on the street must be left on or you risk loosing your licence several times a day. To say the only positive is price depends on your riding skill set. The alloy frame is straight and swing arm and brakes straight off an R version. The k5 is positively old but it is one stonking engine. Also it has been revised in both component and fueling maps. You really need to get your facts right.
so does engine character means "engine behavior" or does everyone refers to a "smooth" engine as "no character" ? it seems like everyone is saying that an engine with less low end and midrange grunt as "no character", and only engine with loads of low end torque and vibrates alot has "character" ?
iodineclip this engine makes loads of power down low . This guy don't know nothing about this bike.
appreciate the thoughts, so, in your opinion, which engine configuration on which type of bike feels most characterful ?
In general v configuration makes better sound . It's personal go end ride few bikes and make your own decisions. Don't bike a motorcycle because somebody else telling you to do . This guy don't like Suzuki but for you this can be the best motorcycle in the world
Sort of like how a lot of people don't want to go to gearless electric bikes because it would be boring. Motors with "character" make common inline 4s feel like smooth easy mode turbines that take some of the fun out of it. Motors with character aren't faster or quantifiably better in any way, but for a lot of people its more fun. Especially if you've already done the inline four thing for years.
Spenser Robert I get what you mean Spencer. I grew up for 30 years riding big smooth Japanese inline fours, and they were great at the time, but it was only after I bought a 2012 Speed Triple that I understood what reviewers meant by Character. I then went on to own a Tuono V4R and 2016 R1 successively, because for me it's not about 1single thing. Ot's an ineffable combination of many characteristics that make a bike feel alive under you, and this lack of character left me feeling cold after trying both the S1000RR and the ZX10R. Both great bike but lacking that certain spark.
haha love the 72 degree and 75 degree dilemma...that's a problem I would love to have 😂
Definitely best bang for your buck, And really good on gas, the power band in the high rpms is crazy on this bike and mines the 750 version. I got mine at a dealership for 7200$
I recently rode a friend's GSR600 and noticed the same edgy throttle response.
10 years later the issue is still there? :/
Nice one ✌️👍
This bike has aluminium frame and no one is mentioning it. Thats huge benefit for ppl living in wett conditions or if they don´t have garage.
and what kind of dyno do you have? the 2017 had 150whp and the 2018 134whp?
Motorcycles.com said 2018 throttle issue has already been fixed, so is it or not ?
This bike is great, with the caveat, as mentioned, regarding the snappy throttle. Easily fixed though with an ECU flash / Dyno time. Then the motor really shows it’s true colours.
Got it 👍👍👍👍
What about the GSX-S750? It'd be nice to get a vid on that one
There are vids showing ECU retune will fix the twitchy throttle response issue, I would put an aftermarket exhaust on the bike so getting the ECU flashed would be necessary anyways.
The selector switch controls would take 1 day of riding to get used to so...great engine great brakes amazing price compared to what Honda and Yamaha are offering?
Why was the Honda CBR 300R Vs Kawasaki Ninja 40 vs KTM RC390 vs Suzuki GSX250 vs Yamaha YZF R3 - On two wheels taken down????
My favorite part of any bike review is reading all the butthurt comments from people saying mean things about the product they own
I rode one on road and cartagena on track. Engine may not have character but its certainly quick! Loads of torque for an IL4. Brakes are great but abs and electronics are definitely too intrusive
I don't really get why a number of "experts" are complaining about the engine design being more than 10 years old. Suzuki chose the K5 plant because of its longer stroke (and therefore more torquey) design, which makes perfect sense in a street bike. At least Spenser has one exclusive here: the opinion that this engine lacks power and character. 150 to 160 bhp (according to most dyno runs) is more than enough for a street bike and on par with the competition, too. As for character: The K5 is one of the most characterful inline-4s ever built. Ride it back to back with, say, Honda's CB1000R, and you know what I mean.
When you guys gonna make some video's about the Kawa z1000??
I just returned from a 5 day trip in the French vogezen. This bike is made for mountains. It turns so easy. I used to have a yamaha r1 but is not so flexible when it realy starts to get curvy, like u turns.
The only remark are the standard tires on the bike (Dunlop ) but that is personal I guess
135 bhp. I think you need to do more research my friend. I think you’ll find the correct number is 150
Maybe rwhp?... my gsxs 750 has 115 rwhp after a few mods...
i have a 2016 and another thing i dont like is the power drop from 5k to 8k its like you hit a wall and the dregged throttle at low speed in a turn sometime you cant modulte it with finesse
On-off throttle response being bad is simply due to Euro 4 regulations that all motorcycles must follow now. It results in jerky throttle and very hard engine braking. That's simply how it's going to be in the future and nothing can be done about it on the manufacturer side. I guess ECU's fuel map can be tweaked a little but that has to be done by experienced tuners.
There are, however, aftermarket solutions for increasing the fuel supply to the engine to ensure smooth throttle transition (BoosterPlug and similar) but you'll have to purchase that separately. On the positive side, those can easily be installed by riders themselves.
Great review Spencer! Looking forward see you on a test drive with Zack and Ari!
The Seats are a Favourite in this bike!
I don't have any problems with the throttle response. It is direct, but not snatchy. This bike is really great, but just not for unexperienced riders.
Is that Renthal bar standard equipment?
yes
I wanna see Spenser on the next review/first ride or comparison review too!
R i v a l r y R i d e Most of India and Indonesia doesn't.
AkaAndyKnuckles well, most of India and Indonesia (I'm Indian) have never sat on anything close to a 1000cc bike. You could probably take off a zero and it'd be a more accurate representation. I ride a 150cc btw, and the criticism of the engine is spot on, because Suzuki seems to have just stopped making new engines. The Gixxer and V-Strom 250s produce 25 horsepower as compared to its contemporaries. Its an old engine thats just getting swapped from one bike to another. Plus the V-strom is stupidly heavy at 190 kilos. How fast do you think it'll go with a passenger and luggage on?
He's a new host. Give him the chance he deserves. Not everyone knows how to even handle a 1000cc motorcycle - especially 99.9999% of India. ;)
How about the suspension??
cool!
I was cornering but the notification came
Can u make favourites n fails on BMW GS 1200
Good job Spenser! Ignore the haters who have no idea how hard being on camera really is.
Sure, try this: take a random sample and then try to find out which of them "have no idea how hard being on camera really is". Once you have that information make a bit of statistical inference, and at the the end you´ll realize that you should ignore some portion of the coments with certaint characteristics (seems hard)... I´m just kidding, don´t take it seriously (I´m bored)
Big power and a good package at a great price. It doesn’t stir the soul but that should not stop you from considering one. A shame about the throttle but I guess you could remap the ecu
Thanks for making this video as requested, Spencer! My next bike for sure as I like its bang for the buck. What did you think about the suspension? I'd mainly use it for commuting but would it be adequate for sporty riding?
One point about the throttle that a lot of GSXS owners know but others may not, the sensitive throttle can be dialed out by adjusting the TPS:
www.gsxs1000.org/forum/gsxs-1000-appearance-modifications/28994-primary-tps-could-key-snatch.html
Other than the price, I'm sure I'd be happy with it
Owned a gsx-s for 18 months . The throttle was a bit ordinary ; put an akrapovic pipe on it and throttle became smooth .The engine,gearbox and clutch are A1. The suzuki biggest problem is the rear shock [ really horrid ] and front suspension not much better . Also the front brakes are very average [ rubber lines the problem ] The bike cheap to buy but if attend to the lousy suspension etc its really not such a good buy . Suzuki have basically a good bike ; just needs finishing . Other good points are its very reliable , comfortable and sounds great when you get up it .
I got the 2020 bike in gloss black looks the nuts!!! Throttle smooth as snake shit ....a very happy man !!!
What was the asking price?
@@porkchopspapi5757
Think it was about £10200 but done it on pcp
Everytime old mate says gixis my skin crawls
Please do one for Hypermotard; the base model.
You only make F&F for JBikes?
First time seeing one of these. Didn't know MM could hire two Zach Courts'
How is it 10k? Damn i want to migrate to the states ! In Singapore a secondhand gsxs1000 which you can use for another 6 years (google COE) costs $22000 SGD
Man Teddy my god that so expensive
@Man Teddy where are you all this time? haha, kidding man. the price tag for our fellow european/american riders are indeed totally different from the rest of us in asian part of the world. that's not a new thing. here in Indonesia an MT09 cost about 250 millions IDR (Rp. 250.000.000,- or two hunderd fifty millions rupiah, yeah you read it right), it's around 25.000 USD, hahaha... compare it to the "normal" price tag which is only 9000 USD (there is 16.000 USD difference!)
How do y'all like this bike compared to the FZ/MT 09?
I've ridden both extensively. It feels two times the size. The MT09 is very slender and the motor is manic. The GSXS is bigger between the knees, has a fair amount more heft, but has a freight train as a motor. The MT09 is closer to a supermoto to me. The GSXS is your standard naked bike.
forrysc I just got the FZ 09 and I'm loving it! I really like the way this one looks though!
The engine is a win win win
Make a video on 2018 ninja 1000
Ummm....When you get the bike "a little out of sorts", the TC is SUPPOSED to intrude.
blipco5 exactly! TC is there for safety reasons not for "fun"
Well, there is intrusion and there's intrusion. The IMU whiz-bang top-of-the-line TC systems (e.g. R1, Ducati's and Kawa's latest) are like gently nudging you in the right direction, whereas the simplest can be herky-jerky or just put the kibosh on any kind of wheelie or movement in the rear. Oftentimes it can switch from one to the other mid ride.
The system on my Tuono 1100 is somewhere in the middle, but especially the wheelie control can be both over-intrusive and unpredictable at times on the track... The TC allows for pretty fat slides, even though it isn't an IMU system.
Obviously (at least I thought so) by a little out of sorts, he was including everything from intentionally skidding, backing it in, wheelies or slight wheelies to anything that happens accidentally. It was meant to cover everything other than rolling smoothly.
MPI1000.... An unpredictable system would be the worst. Of the two bikes I have, one has none and the most modern one (2017 z900) has only ABS.
Could you please review KTM Duke 790...?
Can you do Yamaha MT-07 review?
Could you please do the 2018 MT07 next?
Samuel I had a 15 FZ-07 fully moded out at the Dragon, unstoppable. I got the
GSX-S1000 now n it good for big stuff but on the switch backs it would smoke any of the high end rockets. With full exhaust from IXIL everyone looks back to see what brappping monster is behind them lol was a great bike n I’ll probably get another one as a second bike
Fiscal year end, Japan Dealers register their stock bikes with their own name and keeps as (Rarely used Bikes) such as (2017 50Km used with USD 6499 or 6999)
Some people used to Kill(Fuse off) TC, ABS and rewrite ECU, and change to High Grip Tire, Separate Handle. Not bad to make a real weapon with low cost.
Motorcyclist Magazine which one is better??
YAMAHA FZ-10 OR SUZUKI GSX1000Z
I can't understand why someone would call the K5-engine "out of character". That thing is a goddamn legend. Even this downtuned version outruns the FZ-10 and the Superduke up to 200 kph, and it's awfully close to the S1000R and the Tuono. And for me personally it also sounds better than the BMW's Inline 4 at least.
Cool quick review.
But considering that this bikes makes the hearts of enthousiasts around the world beat faster imho it got bashed a little too hard.
Yes, throttle response - can be fixed. But the rest is just one great genuine 1000 cc beast at a discount tariff. How about the great stock suspension?
Yes, the Super Duke S or the S1000R might be better, but seriously who can stand to eat caviar every day?
And this GSX tastes just like one hell of a tasty burger.
Can I just say that this bike imho is one of the most(if not the most) good looking bikes that are available to buy rn.
Also,this guy is so good on these videos,I don't really get the hate.He seems to know what he's talking about,he's pleasant and he doesn't come off as douchy or something.
No ambient temp gauge?? You are a DOPE!! They don't pay you to review bikes, do they?
Yeah this guy needs an audi a5 and not a motorcycle lmao . I cringed hard when I heard him say that
It needs a weather radar incase it is raining lol
@3:35 you're saying a 130hp bike is "lacking power"?? This is why people buy +600cc bikes as a first bike; they think these power monsters are nothing to think twice about!
more like 150hp bike
What's even necessary anymore. Do we want to cruise at 110mph "without a buzzing feeling"? No idea what's even being sold to me haha
Daytona!