@@oliveranimatesyt The real Devon Butler is actually someone called "Adam Sanderson", he even has a UA-cam-channel: ua-cam.com/channels/ZX8KjkuUCvadnuDX61xV-w.html 😁😂😂
I love how Ticktum said “I’d rather be the best driver in F2 than the worst driver in F1” despite the fact that he is nowhere near being the best driver in F2
Yeah, I've never understood the hype behind him and why people talk about him being in F1. When has he ever achieved something to merit that? 2nd in the 2018 F3 season, sure, but that's literally it. Nothing else about his junior record is even close to impressive enough to warrant F1 speculation.
@@rvfharrier could say the same about zhou all he has is a bucket full of money he’s not really achieved that much and is in the second season of F2 and is getting beaten by a rookie who is schooling the whole field
@@gwcrispi given that he has shown his pace in F2 with Carlin, I'm sure the team could find a way to get him into their car over here if they really wanted to
Definitely not as hot headed in Indycar. NASCAR hell yes. That Castroneves incident with Rossi is very uncommon (but Rossi's passive aggressive shot back at Castroneves was hilarious). The drivers never get really mad at each other. This season was probably the most times I've seen guys get mad at each other by far and it wasn't too bad. They don't wreck each other on purpose or hold grudges. Indycar also has Alex Palou who is the embodiment of the phrase "cool as a cucumber." The only time he ever got annoyed by anything was at Portland and he came back to win the race with a calm mind. He has the gorilla symbol for a reason.
Don't get why he's getting flak for that.. have any of ya'll watched Norris or any other drivers streams? they often poke fun at other drivers, but calling someone.. poo? Eh guess this years sensibilities have truly become quite.. strange.
Watching Indycar this year because of Grosjean moving has made me realise how fun and intense the series is. I'm not really a Ticktum fan but would love to see what sort of shenanigans he would get into on that grid. You can race really hard in those cars.
And Indycars can take a hit well. Look no further than Ericsson's launch and win at Nashville, or Grosjean's big hip check on Johnson going into the dipper at Laguna Seca.
@@Duval-In-The-Wall nothing is more entertaining than Rossi seeing red on an oval, especially the Indy500. You can just see his rage as he slices his way through the field before he or someone else wrecks.
@thebluedot Coyne has a spot open with Grosjean moving to Andretti and Carlin is looking to expand to a second car to pair with Chilton, so there are options. Not top teams as you point out, but the nature of the series still gives the lower teams a chance to do well, not be laps behind every race
Just like any F1 reject, IndyCar is always open for new drivers. Callum Illot was doing well in his few races. I really was rooting for Dan in the Williams seat for 2022 or even Jack Aitken wouldve been my choice over Albon. I wouldve loved Liam and Alex to stay in DTM.
and the drivers that bitch about the ovals, *cough Hulkenberg cough*, you literally dont have to drive the ovals. they can have a driver who is willing to do it step in for you or just not have the car run, just like Grosjean.
Tbh Dan isn’t a bad driver but his personality will always be the key factor in him being dropped…also tbh I think Albon was a good choice because he’s already driven an F1 car properly, had done a lot of work behind the scenes at RB, and out of everyone is the most stable choice…whereas Liam, Jack, etc, will be a season or two to develop as an F1 driver… However, I’m saying this as a big Alex fan so sorry about the bias view 🤣
@@vikeshpatel9088 yeah that was hella bias. to me Alex shouldve stayed in Toro Rosso and had Gasly finish the season in Red Bull and drop Gasly back to AlphaTauri and sign an outside the Red Bull family driver. But that's just me.
"say it in your helmet, say it in the pits, don't say it on the radio" Yes, F1 seems to be even more of a political game than it ever was but making unneccessary enemies is duff move even if you're fernando alonso or something. There's something about risk and temprament in Dan's troubles with teams as much as "don't upset sponsors with bad words". Indicar or DTM or perhaps an F2 team will take a punt on him without support from above.
His outbursts aren't comparable anyway. Everyone whines on the radio, that's correct, what's not correct is saying that the level on which he frequently attacks his own team is normal. If something goes wrong, it's never his fault. There's never any "we win as a team, lose as a team". It's only ever Dan wins, or the world fails him. With such a character he would never have succeeded in F1. That's not a question of politics, that's a question of your off-track capabilities. Modern F1 is too complex to "win" by sitting in a car being fast. You need to be able to work with people. He isn't.
@@Sp4mMe I agree. The F1 grid has a lot more drivers to pick from, and would rather not risk having someone who's potentially a larger liability than the rest. Sure, some would say "shutting him up wouldn't be fun", but I'd say besides all the politics that are already built around F1; behavior like that just isn't going to be tolerated by the rest of the drivers either (let alone tolerated by the team he's in). Even if F1's all about the appearances and politics, it wouldn't be a smart move to make to get a driver who, sure, probably isn't showing an extreme amount of risk just yet, but unless he's an F3 Max-level prodigy, his F2 career just wouldn't cut it enough to make him worth any F1 seat. No team's gonna wanna risk having him on there with NASCAR-level attitude. Actually, you know what, he shouldn't be in F1. He should be in Indy or NASCAR lol.
Mate, I don't know if you have forgotten, but he also implied Mick was cheating in F3 when he started winning races and building a lead. Then he backtracked from cheating and said that Mick maybe had access to a special secret engine map. Making a virtual puppy-face in chat doesn't absolve him of his unprofessional conduct. There are at least 5 other drivers more talented than him that F1 teams can pick from, some even younger than him - why would they choose this emotionally unstable manchild over them?
Tbh, I'm surprised that he didn't get banned for 15 years, given that Luca Corberi(who pretty much harmed other drivers directly too) got banned like that. Seriously. I know people are sad to see him go. But remember, 3 teams dropped him(RB, Williams and Mugen in Super Formula). If that doesn't spells bad working attitude to you, I don't know what will.
You guys want the truth? We like it. We want some people with an edgy personality in racing. A few more James Hunt's could do the world some good. Stir up some drama, that's what makes sports interesting. Cause it sure as hell ain't interesting for the racing at the moment.
@@CharlesFreckHunt only ever stirred up drama OFF the track - ON the track he was a consummate professional and to suggest otherwise is just fucking insulting to the man's memory.
NASCAR is the one that likes the hotheads. Indycar drivers gotta calm down. Yes Ferrucci was in Indycar but he really chilled out. never got into any controversies.
Please do a video explaining how junior formula cars aren’t “equal”. I always thought that they are until you mentioned it a handful of times. Thank you!
Even when the cars are in theory identical the big teams will still have the advantage by being able to afford more/better personnel as well as replacing parts much more frequently.
Give me Dan Ticktum's talent and literally anyone else's brain, and you'd have a very very solid F1 driver He's his own worst enemy, which is a shame because when he first broke through in F4, he looked like a genuine top tier prospect, and he looked like he could've made it all the way before ramming Collard under yellows. I think he's very fortunate that he was allowed to get back in a racing car again after that, but he's certainly mellowed compared to what he was when he first came through. On a side note, he would hands down beat me in a racing car, but I beat him in a CoD game when we were on the same team, so who is the real winner?
Indy has really become a haven for F1 drivers who were determined to be “not good enough” based on everything but talent, and they have done really well. Romain killed it this year, Ericsson was in the championship battle late into the year, Rossi has done pretty decent, and the talent from non F1 drivers is there, like Herta and Palao. It’s nice to see Indy have a bit of a resurgence over the last 2-3 years.
This. I also heard Ferrari were considering starting a team in Indycar to give some of their juniors oppotunities elsewhere. Great time for Indycar if so! A great improvement from the 1990s during the IRL/CART split!
Sucks but there's just no room for him in F1 unless Alpine can swing a deal with Sauber which seems unlikely. And with the way Alonso is racing and Ocon's new contract, there may not be an Alpine seat for him for years still. This is a bad time to be a young hotshot driver as F1 has been taken over by such a successful young generation that there probably aren't going to be many seats opening up.
Tbh, I'd quite like to see Ticktum in IndyCar. The Indycar season this year was brilliant! Was great watching Grojean perform pretty consistently for a rookie and with Illot in the mix as well for next season...
I wish F1 fans could get over their seemingly reflexive disdain for IndyCar (and people think Americans are arrogant...). IndyCar isn't F1; American racing fans know that. But IndyCar is still very entertaining and features a lot of good drivers. They may not be the best of the best but they're still pretty damn talented. And you can like both series! Here in America I love watching an F1 race in the morning and then having an IndyCar race as a chaser in the afternoon.
Also I agree that this past IndyCar season was brilliant. They're almost always brilliant from a competitive standpoint. I think the championship has gone down to the final race for like the past ten years.
@@BiggieTrismegistus In many ways, IndyCar is superior! In terms of racing and championship battles, it doesn't have the fanfare and history behind it that F1 does though, travelling all around the world to exotic places etc. But as a racing series it's better! It's why I like the British Touring Cars more than F1, I usually just watch the 5 minute highlights on FB or youtube for F1, whereas I will spend the whole day watching the BTCC because they have three Touring car races, plus a load of support series races!
@@Jimmer93 From the UA-cam clips I've seen the BTCC looks very entertaining. Unfortunately it's not available on US TV and my crappy internet means I can't reliably stream anything.
Ticktum going on about how "Latifi is poo" right after unofficially leaving Williams makes me think of Bottas and how can no longer be bothered to help Mercedes with Lewis
@@valerierodger7700 Yup. He isn't very good at defending a position. I believe it was France when Max stormed back on fresh tires and Merc really needed Bottas to hold up Max for a few laps to try and eek out the win for Lewis and he simply couldn't do it. That was well before he knew he was done at Merc.
With the sheer talent on the F1 grid this season, Dan wasn't anywhere near good enough a driver. He doesn't have the billionaire backing to be another mediocre rookie.
Nah. He might have the raw talent for a decent F1 career but he does not have the temperment or focus. He'd screw it up with an off track (or on) incident within a year.
Relevant for what? I get that a racer wants to race no matter what. However, there's not a single driver out there that wouldn't swap over to F1 if they got the opportunity.
There's some drivers from F2 starting to move to Indy as it seems with Ilott already confirming a seat while Lundgaard will probably race there as well
I love how the asshole F1 fans say "indycar is just a bunch of F1 rejects." Imagine what they'd say if Piastri ends up over here lol. Arrow McLaren SP is looking into a 3rd car by the 2023 season ;)
The fact is he had only mediocre results, but was running his mouth as a prima donna. (And I don't think he had a lot of money or a rich daddy behind him). No team in the world is going to take a change with a possible public publicity disaster waiting to happen. As things stands he will be remembered for his unhinged attitude, not for his race results.
Around September of 2018, motopark collaborated with Redbull to have an F3 test at Hungaroring. At that testing, Yuki recorded a lap time that is only 0.2 seconds slower than Dan. This was done under Yuki having zero experience with F3 while Dan was leading the F3 championship. The clear difference in the potential made the resource concentration switch on Yuki. (This result is Dan running SF and Yuki running in the smallest F3 team). From that point, it is clear that his hope for F1 is half or almost gone. This news was kind of spread around Japanese motorsports media but has not been seen on the Western side so I think it will give more insight into what happened to the Redbull Junior at that time. (BTW sry for bad grammar)
And for Dan, it was even worse in SF. He made comments that looked like he underestimated SF, then he struggled quite badly. I think I laughed about it at the time
i like dan because he goes for it, i used to hate him but liked him after your first video and really rooted for him in monza, his save through the chicane is still one of the gnarliest saves i have ever seen in an open wheel car. he had to easily have changed like 15 settings on his wheel after throwing it side to side trying to stay straight. absolute gladiator who will always send it and i hope he continues to be in a competitive racing series.
Dan Ticktum's story to F1 reminds me of Xqc's attempts in Overwatch, both making very dumb decisions that follow them overshadowing their actual talent
@@1ittlegs Goes to show that sometimes, some personalities aren't built for certain kinds of success. Does that mean xQc still deserves to be in professional Overwatch? Probably not. Therefore that doesn't mean that Ticktum ought to deserve an F1 seat as long as his demeanor doesn't change, either. Though, he might find some success in IndyCar, and that ain't so bad.
Here is my take, a relatively new formula 1 fan. To drive at F1 you need 3 major characteristics: Money, Reputation, and Talent Some lean heavily on one while most try to balance out things. Hamilton came through into F1 with the sheer talent while Mazapin came in with buckets load of money, while people like Stroll, Parez, and most drives balance between these three. Ticktum doesnt seem to have massive backing, his reputation started out negative and when media is lacking a bad guy, Ticktum was a treat on a platter. While I haven't watched any of his performance, the community response is he has talent but not the next WC. So in aggregate, 0 for money, -0.5 for reputation, and 0.8 for talent = 0.3. Which is I guess meh for most teams. While Stroll would be 1 for money, 0 for reputation, and 0.6 for talent = 1.6. From an emotionless corporate outlook, I would pick Stroll over Ticktum if they were the choice I am presented with.
I wish you would do a video about how f2/f3 aren't really spec series like we think they are or should be. I'm really interested in hearing more about that.
they are all the same cars with a engine that has the same spec. But you have all the freedom in setting up the car. F1 teams spend millions per year to just find the right setup for each track. That has nothing to do with the car development. The same goes with f2. The top teams can spend more money for finding the right setup. And a good setup compared to a average setup can easily be 5 tenths in the very same car. And it seems like, that the distribution of the mechachrome engines isn't 100% fair either.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD It also depends on which F3 we're talking about. The FIA F3 world championship which replaced GP3? Yeah, they're spec and there's no development even if the engines are very uneven. Regional F3 though? Not spec in reality even if it usually is in practice. The chassis is, but if someone wants to spend the money to develop a car they can. Lance Stroll won his championships with a front suspension developed by Williams in the Williams F1 tunnel.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Well, the same can be said for any series that uses identical chassis and/or engine - the big teams with bigger budget and manpower will always find the edge compared to the competition. Case in point IndyCar. Many praise it for being a "series of equals" when in reality is not - since 2003 the champion has been from one of the Big 3 teams (Andretti, Ganassi and Penske). In the 2021 season the stranglehold of the Big 3 was still strong in terms of race wins - out of the 16 wins, 13 were from Andretti, Ganassi or Penske drivers. Only on 3 times that stranglehold was broken - at Texas' 2nd event by Pato O'Ward (Arrow SPM), Rinus VeeKay (Ed Carpenter Racing) at the GMR Grand Prix and the Indy Road Course, and Helio Castroneves (Meyer Shank Racing) at the Indy 500. And in the Top 10 in the standings, only 2 drivers were from teams other than the Big 3 - Pato O'Ward and Graham Rahal
Yeah I dunno why excuses are being made for this guy, after his race ban he still acts like a 🔔end, that's completely his decision and he needs to live with the consequences of that
Ehh, his personality and antics are simply too much for someone with his midfield F2 talent. Way too many people in the queue and too few seats. Zhou is a better driver with no controversy attached, same for Illot or Aitken. He'd have to have prime Senna type of pace for people to ignore his attitude and offer him an F1 seat.
Makes sense alot 😂😂😂😂 Jokes aside, I hope he can change for a better version of himself now, he is talented but he need to control his overflowing anger while racing. I wish him the best for his career
Getting into F2 and F3 brings so much pain of seeing those who won’t get their dream. Although everyone in F1 dreams of winning and that doesn’t happen either
He should come to America. That kind of attitude plays well over here. IndyCar would be fun, but coming over and racing a couple of Xfinity or Truck road courses. Or World Of Outlaws. He's probably never raced in dirt in his life but he's got talent and you never know.
Ticktum did say his options for 2022 were Indy (assuming the seats don't fill up fast), Formula E (again, same as Indy, and depending on Techeetah's financial situation which could dictate whether Da Costa and JEV remain) or DTM.
Honestly this dude probably belongs in nascar. Where he can get away with crashing into people on purpose and screaming over the radio for an entire race.
Fun fact my F1 2021 my team fired Danny Ticktum after his first contract expired. He had bad focus and did not he capitalized on our car's performance.
I am pretty happy with the growing indy car exposure this year! Josh pls do a piece on scott dixon. Fellow kiwi and a greatstory to talk about on the channel
He is talented, ok, but hot headed as no other! And what he won, to deserve a F1 seat? A few F3 races? There simply are not only better sponsored but also more talented and more consistent drivers around that deserve that seat even more! That's why he should go to Indy-series, where he can prove us wrong and eventually get a seat in F1 (or not...)
@Atalante Alter ??? mazepin never went over the limits in races? Dude literally runs people off the road, smashed the standing into Yuki etc. Cue the F2 highlights. He's literally a threat on the road
I feel like it's a bit harsh to drop a driver even though they got p4 in the standings. He's immature, but he has talent. I think the best thing for him would be to go to Indy.
I think that Nicky said "get him outta my face or Sofina and Lavazza are leaving" But of course Dan would surely fit in nicely in F1, both skill and personality-wise imo
I don't think Ticktum should ever be in F1 but I do think he should remain in motorsport. The dude has talent and hopefully driving in some other series, without being under the constant media spotlight of being potential pick for F1 team, allows him to mature as a driver and person while having successful racing career outside of F1.
There is too much talent atm, and too many drivers who were able to develop pace (i.e. Stroll, Latifi) to make a case for Tan Dicktum in F1. Plus, making a case for him is like making a case for Mazepin. After all, Nikita did have top results, bad luck and finished top 5 in the F2 standings, didn’t he? And it's not like Mazepin has said more racist things and more dumb things than Dan. To make a case for Danny Boy here is honestly just brit bias. There are better drivers who are better blokes in his own category, and perhaps also lying around in other categories. Also: the whole thing he told you about ppl not knowing the real him? The real you is defined by what you do and what you say. He has done and said awful things, and until he stops doing them when the opportunities arise, that's what he will be defined by. Most ppl, like myself, will not care that you know him at a more personal level and for that you want to see him succeeding, we'll just know that this video is biased and pointless.
He would be a good fit for Indycar. As an American, and diehard F1 fans since 2007, until DTS most Americans, even gearheads, had almost know awareness of Formula 1. They're well aware of it now, and have caught up, but pre-2017/2018 the only open wheel race cars were Indycar, and his personality (unlike my personal preference) would fit right in with American motorsports, dare I say, he'd be a fan favorite.
What team principal said something along the lines of "I prefer an unruly fast driver over a slow nice guy, because you can tame the wild one, but the slow guy will never be fast."? EDIT: This is not a defence of Tictum, just a thought. At times I felt sorry for him, some other time I was all "He got what he deserved." In the end, it doesn't even matter. Had he behaved himself just a bit more, we could have had another Montoya in F1. Oh well.
@@valerierodger7700 Yeah, but we have to be hones. A f1 team is a big marketing machine. Those are basically engineering ads for the car manufacturers. And they are driving billboards. So you need a driver that is marketable. We will never see a Nazi in f1 (and that's good) even if he is the fastest driver in history, because literally everybody will hate except the nazis.
But he is not the fastest he is only 4th fastest in F2 and is controversial, so why would you pick him if you need a Rookie and not one of the other 3 which are not so controversial and faster.
I do think it's undeserved for someone to get hate and to be judged so harshly as a human by people who don't know him, sure. But, that still doesn't change our judgement towards him as a racing driver, and most of all; as an F1 seat contender. He still isn't fit for it, and anyone who's been that loose with their public image (and therefore arguably; someone who's been that loose with their personality) isn't going to do well in F1.
Well just like the last time, this is his own doing. The worst part about Ticktum is that he is actually quick and talented and it feels like he’s his own worst enemy.
Fantastic vid as always josh, I would love to see him in Indycar , his talent is perfect, his ability to basically just send it would suit perfect for late races with weird strategies, and also American fans (not American myself but include me in this) absolutely love hot headed drivers 😂
Dan has Indycar written all over him. An American audience loves a fast, rough around the edges, heart on their sleeve racer who says what he thinks (no matter how off colour). He'd be box office there.
well he found his way to Formula E, driving for NIO 333. Hopefully he does well in Formula E, I mean he's in a team that has been struggling for awhile now but hopefully he gets to show what he's capable of and hopefully F1 teams can look at his potential once again.
Would make a standout character in BTCC. Or in the home for all of F1's past and now future talent, Indycar. It's always a little sad when these guys shut off their options for a shot in a series that barely has a 20 car field, has consistently proven that at least 25% of its seats are full of drivers who aren't championship winning material, AND hasn't been competitive until this season of the hybrid era
I suspect this guy has some kind of mental disorder. Not to bully him. I have Bipolar. That's why I think I can see that with this guy. He just looses it and is so high of himself and so convinced that he is right while it is so obvious he is not. He should let himself get checked..
Dan Ticktum seems to get his head straight, maybe go to anger management classes, also maybe coming over to America to compete in either IndyCar or NASCAR would be good for him, especially since the F1 dream is clearly dead as he's been booted from two different driver development programs
Generally speaking to get into F1 you either have to be WDC material or be able to bring money (at they very least be sponsor friendly). Dan sits somewhere in between.
you either got to be in an academy or rich to get in as a rookie now. just look at the rookies of last 3 years. only latifi and mazepin have not been from an academy. lando (mcl) albon/tsunoda(RB) schumacher/gio(fer) russell (merc)
@@gigsawsoljier1408 Nope you have to finish inside P3 in F2 to have a claim at F1. Ticktum didn't achieve it. Leclerc, Russell, Albon, Norris, Latifi, Tsunoda, Mick, Zhou all did that. Mazepin is the only one who didn't. If Ticktum wanted F1 he really should have tried to win F2 in 2022.
In all honesty I grew to like this bloke a lot the past year and I feel kind of sad that talent like his falls off the charts when it comes to getting an F1 seat.
Personally I think that to truly 'deserve' to be in F1, you've got to have the attitude for it. Seeing people who just have talent and nothing else get into F1 is to me almost as bad as seeing people who just have money and a little talent. I feel like he'd do much better to take the Montoya route and storm off in a huff to NASCAR, where they applaud 'strong' personalities a lot more. With that being said, I think it was very nice of him to message you directly and admit his wrongs. I noticed that he actually admitted your videos are quite fair and balanced, which is unexpected considering the 'Dick Tantrum' nickname! Dan's not all bad, and he's not all good. He's just in the wrong place in my opinion, and he's letting it frustrate him, which leads to situations like what we've seen...
But even in NASCAR he wouldn't get a top ride if he doesn't change his attitude. Not everyone is Kyle Busch (and luck was on his side when Hendrick dropped him because of his attitude).
With so many IndyCar seats still open, he'll likely have a chance if he shows interest and finishes the year well in F2. Heck even Santino Fetuccini drove in IndyCar for a while
He's clearly going to DTM, they named the whole series after him.
underrated commment ngl
Hilarious! Like the VTB ads in sochi!
Dan Ticktum Motorsports
Nice!
DTM - Dan the man
Honestly looking at how he acts, mans is a perfect fit for NASCAR lmao
I mean he'd be better than Cody Ware... Maybe hop in an Xfinity seat later this year.
Indy car would be better
I'd say indy because it is a single seater which is what he's more used to
Noah Gragson would show him levels
😂😂
He can always go and do voice overs for EA as Devon Butler next year.
He sounds EXACTLY like him too, wonder if he is actually Devon 🤔
@@oliveranimatesyt The real Devon Butler is actually someone called "Adam Sanderson", he even has a UA-cam-channel: ua-cam.com/channels/ZX8KjkuUCvadnuDX61xV-w.html 😁😂😂
I think he's the face of Devon but I think it's a different voice.
Funny.
I think he's the real life embodiment of the character...
I thought Dan is like Garry in NFS No Limits ?
I love how Ticktum said “I’d rather be the best driver in F2 than the worst driver in F1” despite the fact that he is nowhere near being the best driver in F2
“I’d rather be the best driver in F2 tha…”
Piastri and pouchaire : you wot mate ?
He's in the top 5 lol
Yeah, I've never understood the hype behind him and why people talk about him being in F1. When has he ever achieved something to merit that? 2nd in the 2018 F3 season, sure, but that's literally it. Nothing else about his junior record is even close to impressive enough to warrant F1 speculation.
He didn't say that, his friend said that on stream to him
@@rvfharrier could say the same about zhou all he has is a bucket full of money he’s not really achieved that much and is in the second season of F2 and is getting beaten by a rookie who is schooling the whole field
With Grosjean doing as well as he is in Indycar, Dan should consider it.
Also the Americans in Indy are as hot-headed as he is. He'll fit right in.
He'll need to take a check to Coyne or Carlin or Juncos. But he'll have to get in line.
@@gwcrispi given that he has shown his pace in F2 with Carlin, I'm sure the team could find a way to get him into their car over here if they really wanted to
@@tylercady3985 there have been some rumors that Carlin could add a second car. That would make sense if they want Ticktum there...
He races like a NASCAR driver yet has the personality of an Indycar driver
Definitely not as hot headed in Indycar. NASCAR hell yes. That Castroneves incident with Rossi is very uncommon (but Rossi's passive aggressive shot back at Castroneves was hilarious). The drivers never get really mad at each other. This season was probably the most times I've seen guys get mad at each other by far and it wasn't too bad. They don't wreck each other on purpose or hold grudges.
Indycar also has Alex Palou who is the embodiment of the phrase "cool as a cucumber." The only time he ever got annoyed by anything was at Portland and he came back to win the race with a calm mind. He has the gorilla symbol for a reason.
*hearing Dan's rendition of the Scooby Doo theme*
*spits out tea*
dang it.
Was he wrong?
@@frazerparkinson4951 nah it just caught me off guard.
Don't get why he's getting flak for that.. have any of ya'll watched Norris or any other drivers streams? they often poke fun at other drivers, but calling someone.. poo?
Eh guess this years sensibilities have truly become quite.. strange.
@@dasmoools606 Dan trashed on Latifi and called Rosberg a cheat.
And considering dan's behavior...
However he did this post Williams firing
@@dasmoools606 Only we (internet) can judge drivers an exception can be made in case of exceptional talent or pedigree!
I will never get tired of the "Bruh" Gelael meme.
Nobody will
Me neither haha 😂😂
as an Indonesian. Me too
Same lmfao 😂😂
I somehow never and always expect it and it gets me every bloody time
Watching Indycar this year because of Grosjean moving has made me realise how fun and intense the series is. I'm not really a Ticktum fan but would love to see what sort of shenanigans he would get into on that grid. You can race really hard in those cars.
And Indycars can take a hit well. Look no further than Ericsson's launch and win at Nashville, or Grosjean's big hip check on Johnson going into the dipper at Laguna Seca.
He’d get in a fight with someone like Rossi after 3 races
@@Duval-In-The-Wall nothing is more entertaining than Rossi seeing red on an oval, especially the Indy500. You can just see his rage as he slices his way through the field before he or someone else wrecks.
He'll be the modern day version of Paul Tracy; blisteringly fast with the attitude to match
Indy is if Nascar and F1 had a baby
IndyCar: "We'll take him, thank you!"
Or Haas
@thebluedotRahal Letterman Lanigan might have a spot, Sato is probably on his way out.
@@Rand0mContnt jack harvey and super sub >>>>
@thebluedot Coyne has a spot open with Grosjean moving to Andretti and Carlin is looking to expand to a second car to pair with Chilton, so there are options. Not top teams as you point out, but the nature of the series still gives the lower teams a chance to do well, not be laps behind every race
Haven't they taken Callum Ilott already?
In an entertaining timeline, Mick would move over to Gio's seat, and Ticktum could be Maz's teammate just for the lolz.
jeeez, and Günther dropping massive F-bombs every race because both just do, what they're known for... I'd love it ^^
Haha!!! The driver radio would MORE than be worth the cost of the F1 TV subscription!
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@@DamonMurphy1 I’ll pay for it for as long as they stayed as teammates.
:)
Gio's better than Mick
To quote a famous bald-headed movie producer from my neck in the woods: "He yeeted himself."
damn even goku hates this guy
Fancy meeting you here on a F1 UA-cam video.
Feeling this crossover
Masako?? You're an F1 fan? Quite the surprise seeing you here
@@Senny_V He loves Mclaren
I won't tolerate the shade on Alex in this intro Joshua. 😤😤😤
Lol
My guy brought out the Joshua you know it's serious
After all, Alex Albon... is bloody wonderful.
Hopefully he comes to Indy just so we can get more of his team radio
😂No cap
Facts
a real nascar chatter type of mood I get from him when hes pissed off
That's not very nice. Everyone knows that going to indycar is a fate worse than death
@@mathewgill3058 I'm guessing you're joking. Indycar is on par if not better then F1 in terms of personality and racing.
@@elianioriofarrell I speak nothing but the truth
Just like any F1 reject, IndyCar is always open for new drivers. Callum Illot was doing well in his few races. I really was rooting for Dan in the Williams seat for 2022 or even Jack Aitken wouldve been my choice over Albon. I wouldve loved Liam and Alex to stay in DTM.
and the drivers that bitch about the ovals, *cough Hulkenberg cough*, you literally dont have to drive the ovals. they can have a driver who is willing to do it step in for you or just not have the car run, just like Grosjean.
Tbh Dan isn’t a bad driver but his personality will always be the key factor in him being dropped…also tbh I think Albon was a good choice because he’s already driven an F1 car properly, had done a lot of work behind the scenes at RB, and out of everyone is the most stable choice…whereas Liam, Jack, etc, will be a season or two to develop as an F1 driver…
However, I’m saying this as a big Alex fan so sorry about the bias view 🤣
@@vikeshpatel9088 yeah that was hella bias. to me Alex shouldve stayed in Toro Rosso and had Gasly finish the season in Red Bull and drop Gasly back to AlphaTauri and sign an outside the Red Bull family driver. But that's just me.
and then by 2021/22 one of them wouldve been more ready.
Or none of the above? Why not a good driver to Williams such as Nyck de Vries?
"Dan Ticktum's F1 dream is OVER"
Me - "Oh no.... Anyway"
"say it in your helmet, say it in the pits, don't say it on the radio" Yes, F1 seems to be even more of a political game than it ever was but making unneccessary enemies is duff move even if you're fernando alonso or something. There's something about risk and temprament in Dan's troubles with teams as much as "don't upset sponsors with bad words". Indicar or DTM or perhaps an F2 team will take a punt on him without support from above.
a F2 team sure but not A F2 team
I disagree, F1 has always been this political. The politics have just been more noticable due to information being easier to gather.
His outbursts aren't comparable anyway. Everyone whines on the radio, that's correct, what's not correct is saying that the level on which he frequently attacks his own team is normal. If something goes wrong, it's never his fault. There's never any "we win as a team, lose as a team". It's only ever Dan wins, or the world fails him.
With such a character he would never have succeeded in F1. That's not a question of politics, that's a question of your off-track capabilities. Modern F1 is too complex to "win" by sitting in a car being fast. You need to be able to work with people. He isn't.
@@Sp4mMe I agree. The F1 grid has a lot more drivers to pick from, and would rather not risk having someone who's potentially a larger liability than the rest. Sure, some would say "shutting him up wouldn't be fun", but I'd say besides all the politics that are already built around F1; behavior like that just isn't going to be tolerated by the rest of the drivers either (let alone tolerated by the team he's in). Even if F1's all about the appearances and politics, it wouldn't be a smart move to make to get a driver who, sure, probably isn't showing an extreme amount of risk just yet, but unless he's an F3 Max-level prodigy, his F2 career just wouldn't cut it enough to make him worth any F1 seat. No team's gonna wanna risk having him on there with NASCAR-level attitude. Actually, you know what, he shouldn't be in F1. He should be in Indy or NASCAR lol.
I want dan ticktum on Haas with mazepin lmfao. Imagine the shit show
YYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSS !!!!!!!!!! And Mick can join Antonio Giovinazzi at Alfa Romeo. LOL
@@HyperHorse Or Mickster could replicate his father's success at Ferrari
@@HyperHorse Nope Gio Out.... Bottas is a much better driver. Keep Bottas and Mick, yeet Antonio
YES I want to see that.
Ok, I gotta admit that's a nice idea!!
Mate, I don't know if you have forgotten, but he also implied Mick was cheating in F3 when he started winning races and building a lead. Then he backtracked from cheating and said that Mick maybe had access to a special secret engine map.
Making a virtual puppy-face in chat doesn't absolve him of his unprofessional conduct. There are at least 5 other drivers more talented than him that F1 teams can pick from, some even younger than him - why would they choose this emotionally unstable manchild over them?
Tbh, I'm surprised that he didn't get banned for 15 years, given that Luca Corberi(who pretty much harmed other drivers directly too) got banned like that.
Seriously. I know people are sad to see him go. But remember, 3 teams dropped him(RB, Williams and Mugen in Super Formula).
If that doesn't spells bad working attitude to you, I don't know what will.
You guys want the truth? We like it. We want some people with an edgy personality in racing. A few more James Hunt's could do the world some good. Stir up some drama, that's what makes sports interesting. Cause it sure as hell ain't interesting for the racing at the moment.
@@CharlesFreck I watch racing for the racing, not the drama. And it's been fairly decent this year after being a wet noodle for the past few.
@@trueinnovator7207 if luca is who I think he is, wasn't he twenty something when he did that whole karting shenanigan, not quite the same
@@CharlesFreckHunt only ever stirred up drama OFF the track - ON the track he was a consummate professional and to suggest otherwise is just fucking insulting to the man's memory.
the guy putting his k/d ratio in the title of his twitch streams probably says enough
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Just another spoiled ass millenial
@@andredelay8111 He's literally a zoomer, we millenials do not claim him
ZOOMERS LULW
we zoomers do not claim him either
12:15 Let's all praise our respects to the living legend, the four times Indy500 winner, Hélio Castroneves!
'Keeping it on the island' sounds like one of the most Kiwi expressions ever.
If I can make a request, how about a video on the Karting rivalry between Dan Wheldon and Jenson Button?
Good idea
rip dan
11:54 i thought about it earlier, and man indycar fans would probably love dan, an aggresive driver, and an explosive personality
NASCAR is the one that likes the hotheads. Indycar drivers gotta calm down. Yes Ferrucci was in Indycar but he really chilled out. never got into any controversies.
I love Dan & I love IndyCar I think it’d be really cool and I reckon he’d do well
Please do a video explaining how junior formula cars aren’t “equal”. I always thought that they are until you mentioned it a handful of times.
Thank you!
Even when the cars are in theory identical the big teams will still have the advantage by being able to afford more/better personnel as well as replacing parts much more frequently.
You can tune a car to be better at a certain circuit or in certain situations (ie, medium speed corners, straights etc.)
Give me Dan Ticktum's talent and literally anyone else's brain, and you'd have a very very solid F1 driver
He's his own worst enemy, which is a shame because when he first broke through in F4, he looked like a genuine top tier prospect, and he looked like he could've made it all the way before ramming Collard under yellows.
I think he's very fortunate that he was allowed to get back in a racing car again after that, but he's certainly mellowed compared to what he was when he first came through.
On a side note, he would hands down beat me in a racing car, but I beat him in a CoD game when we were on the same team, so who is the real winner?
he was in F1, but the FIA had introduced super licences and blocked RedBull's request
Indy has really become a haven for F1 drivers who were determined to be “not good enough” based on everything but talent, and they have done really well. Romain killed it this year, Ericsson was in the championship battle late into the year, Rossi has done pretty decent, and the talent from non F1 drivers is there, like Herta and Palao. It’s nice to see Indy have a bit of a resurgence over the last 2-3 years.
This. I also heard Ferrari were considering starting a team in Indycar to give some of their juniors oppotunities elsewhere. Great time for Indycar if so! A great improvement from the 1990s during the IRL/CART split!
Palou used to be in F2
@@funkykidjr787 wasn't it F3 he was in?
@The Piran one that’s makes no sense lol. If they get the most money why not try and get even more by winning in another series…
I mean Grosjean and Ericsson weren't good enough on talent either.
Frankly, Ticktum moving to IndyCar hurts me MUCH less than Piastri having to spend next season on the reserve bench.
Sucks but there's just no room for him in F1 unless Alpine can swing a deal with Sauber which seems unlikely. And with the way Alonso is racing and Ocon's new contract, there may not be an Alpine seat for him for years still. This is a bad time to be a young hotshot driver as F1 has been taken over by such a successful young generation that there probably aren't going to be many seats opening up.
@@mattdsoares alpine might be able to get ghou in that seat.
But I do hope Oscar Piastri gets a F1 Seat. I feel that he is going to be a future F1 World Champion..
@@shivabalannagakumaran6019 not a chance
I want Piastri to come to Indycar
Tbh, I'd quite like to see Ticktum in IndyCar. The Indycar season this year was brilliant! Was great watching Grojean perform pretty consistently for a rookie and with Illot in the mix as well for next season...
I wish F1 fans could get over their seemingly reflexive disdain for IndyCar (and people think Americans are arrogant...). IndyCar isn't F1; American racing fans know that. But IndyCar is still very entertaining and features a lot of good drivers. They may not be the best of the best but they're still pretty damn talented. And you can like both series! Here in America I love watching an F1 race in the morning and then having an IndyCar race as a chaser in the afternoon.
Also I agree that this past IndyCar season was brilliant. They're almost always brilliant from a competitive standpoint. I think the championship has gone down to the final race for like the past ten years.
@@BiggieTrismegistus In many ways, IndyCar is superior! In terms of racing and championship battles, it doesn't have the fanfare and history behind it that F1 does though, travelling all around the world to exotic places etc. But as a racing series it's better!
It's why I like the British Touring Cars more than F1, I usually just watch the 5 minute highlights on FB or youtube for F1, whereas I will spend the whole day watching the BTCC because they have three Touring car races, plus a load of support series races!
@@Jimmer93 From the UA-cam clips I've seen the BTCC looks very entertaining. Unfortunately it's not available on US TV and my crappy internet means I can't reliably stream anything.
Ticktum going on about how "Latifi is poo" right after unofficially leaving Williams makes me think of Bottas and how can no longer be bothered to help Mercedes with Lewis
I don't follow F2- did the Williams team screw him over prior to this?
@@HighLordBlazeReborn Not really, but they had no seats available anywhere so it made no sense to continue backing him
@@valerierodger7700 Yup. He isn't very good at defending a position. I believe it was France when Max stormed back on fresh tires and Merc really needed Bottas to hold up Max for a few laps to try and eek out the win for Lewis and he simply couldn't do it. That was well before he knew he was done at Merc.
With the sheer talent on the F1 grid this season, Dan wasn't anywhere near good enough a driver. He doesn't have the billionaire backing to be another mediocre rookie.
And his attitude
@@anhuman7022 attitude doesn't matter if your rich enough.
A Mazepin reference :)
I feel ticktum would have had a good Carer in f1 but he always done the wrong thing when he was closest
Had to many chances good prospect but major fuck ups hamper him
carer lol
Nah. He might have the raw talent for a decent F1 career but he does not have the temperment or focus. He'd screw it up with an off track (or on) incident within a year.
He woulda struggled hes not nearly good enough for f1
7:01 F2 had that, too? Someone in NASCAR's feeder series also recorded whilst driving the car.
There's enough characters in IndyCar for him to fit right in. Keeps him relevant too.
Relevant for what?
I get that a racer wants to race no matter what. However, there's not a single driver out there that wouldn't swap over to F1 if they got the opportunity.
@@azynkron nah, some driver refused to drove for caterham back in 2015, and i bet they would do the same if they got offered by Haas this season
@@azynkron Alex Palou has said in multiple interviews he doesn't want to race in F1 and he just won the championship in his 2nd season
@@drmaulana2600 Alexander Rossi tested for them a few times so might've been him.
There's some drivers from F2 starting to move to Indy as it seems with Ilott already confirming a seat while Lundgaard will probably race there as well
soon enough F2 will be Indycar's 2nd feeder series lmao
@@drmaulana2600 Very possible icl 😂
I love how the asshole F1 fans say "indycar is just a bunch of F1 rejects." Imagine what they'd say if Piastri ends up over here lol. Arrow McLaren SP is looking into a 3rd car by the 2023 season ;)
The fact is he had only mediocre results, but was running his mouth as a prima donna. (And I don't think he had a lot of money or a rich daddy behind him). No team in the world is going to take a change with a possible public publicity disaster waiting to happen.
As things stands he will be remembered for his unhinged attitude, not for his race results.
I wanna see him being a villain that drives for Aston Martin
Around September of 2018, motopark collaborated with Redbull to have an F3 test at Hungaroring. At that testing, Yuki recorded a lap time that is only 0.2 seconds slower than Dan. This was done under Yuki having zero experience with F3 while Dan was leading the F3 championship. The clear difference in the potential made the resource concentration switch on Yuki. (This result is Dan running SF and Yuki running in the smallest F3 team). From that point, it is clear that his hope for F1 is half or almost gone. This news was kind of spread around Japanese motorsports media but has not been seen on the Western side so I think it will give more insight into what happened to the Redbull Junior at that time.
(BTW sry for bad grammar)
And for Dan, it was even worse in SF. He made comments that looked like he underestimated SF, then he struggled quite badly. I think I laughed about it at the time
i like dan because he goes for it, i used to hate him but liked him after your first video and really rooted for him in monza, his save through the chicane is still one of the gnarliest saves i have ever seen in an open wheel car. he had to easily have changed like 15 settings on his wheel after throwing it side to side trying to stay straight. absolute gladiator who will always send it and i hope he continues to be in a competitive racing series.
Dan Ticktum's story to F1 reminds me of Xqc's attempts in Overwatch, both making very dumb decisions that follow them overshadowing their actual talent
yea but, XQC now gets more views by himself than the league he played in
@@TheJonesdude Yeah he sorta won in that battle
@@1ittlegs Goes to show that sometimes, some personalities aren't built for certain kinds of success. Does that mean xQc still deserves to be in professional Overwatch? Probably not. Therefore that doesn't mean that Ticktum ought to deserve an F1 seat as long as his demeanor doesn't change, either. Though, he might find some success in IndyCar, and that ain't so bad.
Here is my take, a relatively new formula 1 fan. To drive at F1 you need 3 major characteristics: Money, Reputation, and Talent
Some lean heavily on one while most try to balance out things. Hamilton came through into F1 with the sheer talent while Mazapin came in with buckets load of money, while people like Stroll, Parez, and most drives balance between these three.
Ticktum doesnt seem to have massive backing, his reputation started out negative and when media is lacking a bad guy, Ticktum was a treat on a platter. While I haven't watched any of his performance, the community response is he has talent but not the next WC. So in aggregate, 0 for money, -0.5 for reputation, and 0.8 for talent = 0.3. Which is I guess meh for most teams.
While Stroll would be 1 for money, 0 for reputation, and 0.6 for talent = 1.6.
From an emotionless corporate outlook, I would pick Stroll over Ticktum if they were the choice I am presented with.
I wish you would do a video about how f2/f3 aren't really spec series like we think they are or should be. I'm really interested in hearing more about that.
they are all the same cars with a engine that has the same spec. But you have all the freedom in setting up the car. F1 teams spend millions per year to just find the right setup for each track. That has nothing to do with the car development. The same goes with f2. The top teams can spend more money for finding the right setup. And a good setup compared to a average setup can easily be 5 tenths in the very same car. And it seems like, that the distribution of the mechachrome engines isn't 100% fair either.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD It also depends on which F3 we're talking about. The FIA F3 world championship which replaced GP3? Yeah, they're spec and there's no development even if the engines are very uneven. Regional F3 though? Not spec in reality even if it usually is in practice. The chassis is, but if someone wants to spend the money to develop a car they can. Lance Stroll won his championships with a front suspension developed by Williams in the Williams F1 tunnel.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Well, the same can be said for any series that uses identical chassis and/or engine - the big teams with bigger budget and manpower will always find the edge compared to the competition. Case in point IndyCar. Many praise it for being a "series of equals" when in reality is not - since 2003 the champion has been from one of the Big 3 teams (Andretti, Ganassi and Penske). In the 2021 season the stranglehold of the Big 3 was still strong in terms of race wins - out of the 16 wins, 13 were from Andretti, Ganassi or Penske drivers. Only on 3 times that stranglehold was broken - at Texas' 2nd event by Pato O'Ward (Arrow SPM), Rinus VeeKay (Ed Carpenter Racing) at the GMR Grand Prix and the Indy Road Course, and Helio Castroneves (Meyer Shank Racing) at the Indy 500. And in the Top 10 in the standings, only 2 drivers were from teams other than the Big 3 - Pato O'Ward and Graham Rahal
the entire f1 fanbase: Latifi is a subpar pay driver
Tictum: yeah you're right
fanbase: how DARE you
When Gelael's description started I knew what was coming...
B R U U U H
Imagine being one of the fifty most talented people in the world in your chosen field and choosing to throw it away by being a prat.
Seems to be a growing trend for some reason, you'd think the common sense plan would be to do everything in your power to hang on to it.
Yeah I dunno why excuses are being made for this guy, after his race ban he still acts like a 🔔end, that's completely his decision and he needs to live with the consequences of that
What a delightful message from Dan! ☺️
Ehh, his personality and antics are simply too much for someone with his midfield F2 talent. Way too many people in the queue and too few seats. Zhou is a better driver with no controversy attached, same for Illot or Aitken. He'd have to have prime Senna type of pace for people to ignore his attitude and offer him an F1 seat.
Or a big amount of Cash , refering to Zespin
Ticktums incident in f4 is like the most open lobbies in F1 2021
He really, truly, has embraced his nickname of Dick Tantrum
Makes sense alot 😂😂😂😂
Jokes aside, I hope he can change for a better version of himself now, he is talented but he need to control his overflowing anger while racing. I wish him the best for his career
Once you hear him called "Dick Tantrum" its near impossible to use his real name.
Getting into F2 and F3 brings so much pain of seeing those who won’t get their dream. Although everyone in F1 dreams of winning and that doesn’t happen either
While it maybe a Crowded House in F1, as another Kiwi once sang; Don't Dream it's Over.
Now if only he can catch a deluge in a paper cup.
He should come to America. That kind of attitude plays well over here. IndyCar would be fun, but coming over and racing a couple of Xfinity or Truck road courses.
Or World Of Outlaws. He's probably never raced in dirt in his life but he's got talent and you never know.
Ticktum did say his options for 2022 were Indy (assuming the seats don't fill up fast), Formula E (again, same as Indy, and depending on Techeetah's financial situation which could dictate whether Da Costa and JEV remain) or DTM.
Honestly this dude probably belongs in nascar. Where he can get away with crashing into people on purpose and screaming over the radio for an entire race.
Fun fact my F1 2021 my team fired Danny Ticktum after his first contract expired.
He had bad focus and did not he capitalized on our car's performance.
I am pretty happy with the growing indy car exposure this year! Josh pls do a piece on scott dixon. Fellow kiwi and a greatstory to talk about on the channel
He is talented, ok, but hot headed as no other! And what he won, to deserve a F1 seat? A few F3 races? There simply are not only better sponsored but also more talented and more consistent drivers around that deserve that seat even more! That's why he should go to Indy-series, where he can prove us wrong and eventually get a seat in F1 (or not...)
Imagine his career if he wasn’t such a bozo
imagine his career if he had Mazepin money. It's not whether u a bozo or not
nah, he would've get that Haas seat if his father is a billionaire
@Atalante Alter ??? mazepin never went over the limits in races? Dude literally runs people off the road, smashed the standing into Yuki etc. Cue the F2 highlights. He's literally a threat on the road
@@herewegoagain7403 I heard he also punched Ilott when he was at F2
@@vipbeef2174 lets be honest ilott probably deserved it
7:24 that is a bullshit penalty, he gave Pourchaire and Armstrong all the space he reasonably could, It was Theo bad decision to make it 3 wide
Yeah, it'd be better if he goes to Indy Cars where drivers are not crybabies.
Thumbnail makes this video look like a braking point sequel
Well, as Ricardo Gelael said, whilst its nice to have dreams, sometimes you have to accept that they will only ever be dreams.
I feel like it's a bit harsh to drop a driver even though they got p4 in the standings. He's immature, but he has talent. I think the best thing for him would be to go to Indy.
I will literally never get tired of the Galael bruh moment
Just like someone said before, Dan Ticktum is the real life version of Devon Butler.
I think that Nicky said "get him outta my face or Sofina and Lavazza are leaving"
But of course Dan would surely fit in nicely in F1, both skill and personality-wise imo
Crazy how Alex Albon's and Dan Ticktum's careers are so similar yet so insanely different at the same time
great video. would love to see a video about the f2 rookie Fitipaldi .
I don't think Ticktum should ever be in F1 but I do think he should remain in motorsport. The dude has talent and hopefully driving in some other series, without being under the constant media spotlight of being potential pick for F1 team, allows him to mature as a driver and person while having successful racing career outside of F1.
There is too much talent atm, and too many drivers who were able to develop pace (i.e. Stroll, Latifi) to make a case for Tan Dicktum in F1. Plus, making a case for him is like making a case for Mazepin. After all, Nikita did have top results, bad luck and finished top 5 in the F2 standings, didn’t he? And it's not like Mazepin has said more racist things and more dumb things than Dan. To make a case for Danny Boy here is honestly just brit bias. There are better drivers who are better blokes in his own category, and perhaps also lying around in other categories. Also: the whole thing he told you about ppl not knowing the real him? The real you is defined by what you do and what you say. He has done and said awful things, and until he stops doing them when the opportunities arise, that's what he will be defined by. Most ppl, like myself, will not care that you know him at a more personal level and for that you want to see him succeeding, we'll just know that this video is biased and pointless.
Brit bias? Josh is a freaking Kiwi LOL
Lol he got in trouble for saying Latifi is poo? Come on, that can barely be considered banter at worst.
Josh should make a video about the Top 10 Best Tracks in F1 History.
He would be a good fit for Indycar. As an American, and diehard F1 fans since 2007, until DTS most Americans, even gearheads, had almost know awareness of Formula 1. They're well aware of it now, and have caught up, but pre-2017/2018 the only open wheel race cars were Indycar, and his personality (unlike my personal preference) would fit right in with American motorsports, dare I say, he'd be a fan favorite.
Well, this guy could be the next gen of Da Costa(never made it into F1, but a formidable driver in any championship he participate in)
Except that Da Costa is mature enough to not crash into someone else just because a person piss him off.
da costa wasn't formidable tho....
Tbh Indycar is just as entertaining as F1. As an American I get to see it in person and I love it
What team principal said something along the lines of "I prefer an unruly fast driver over a slow nice guy, because you can tame the wild one, but the slow guy will never be fast."?
EDIT: This is not a defence of Tictum, just a thought. At times I felt sorry for him, some other time I was all "He got what he deserved." In the end, it doesn't even matter. Had he behaved himself just a bit more, we could have had another Montoya in F1. Oh well.
@@valerierodger7700 Yeah, but we have to be hones. A f1 team is a big marketing machine. Those are basically engineering ads for the car manufacturers. And they are driving billboards. So you need a driver that is marketable. We will never see a Nazi in f1 (and that's good) even if he is the fastest driver in history, because literally everybody will hate except the nazis.
But he is not the fastest he is only 4th fastest in F2 and is controversial, so why would you pick him if you need a Rookie and not one of the other 3 which are not so controversial and faster.
In 2023 I think I speak for all of us when I say that we've all forgotten about him.
Yes, we did
Update: He's racing with NIO 333 In Formula E now, not the greatest debut race but IDK what you can do with that new quali format.
I got a Williams ad
I didn't even know the had ads
He is so nice in real life, people are talking bad about him but they don’t know him
Well ofc we don’t know every driver personally. Him being a twat in public isn’t gonna be changed by him being a nice guy in private
Yeah, that's even more hilarious when you're a nice guy off the track but you act like a dickhead on the track. How poetic, isn't?
I do think it's undeserved for someone to get hate and to be judged so harshly as a human by people who don't know him, sure. But, that still doesn't change our judgement towards him as a racing driver, and most of all; as an F1 seat contender. He still isn't fit for it, and anyone who's been that loose with their public image (and therefore arguably; someone who's been that loose with their personality) isn't going to do well in F1.
Well just like the last time, this is his own doing. The worst part about Ticktum is that he is actually quick and talented and it feels like he’s his own worst enemy.
Fantastic vid as always josh, I would love to see him in Indycar , his talent is perfect, his ability to basically just send it would suit perfect for late races with weird strategies, and also American fans (not American myself but include me in this) absolutely love hot headed drivers 😂
Dan has Indycar written all over him. An American audience loves a fast, rough around the edges, heart on their sleeve racer who says what he thinks (no matter how off colour). He'd be box office there.
Before I watch this, no! He's part of my team in f1 2021.
Love hearing Kiwi voices in media.
Lawson, Armstrong and Cassidy are great prospects from our tiny nation.
I guess you could say Dan Tick't off!
well he found his way to Formula E, driving for NIO 333. Hopefully he does well in Formula E, I mean he's in a team that has been struggling for awhile now but hopefully he gets to show what he's capable of and hopefully F1 teams can look at his potential once again.
Indycar: now this looks like a job for me.
What side of the flipflop are we on today then, I reckon in another year something will pop up again and the cycle repeats
What is the greatest trilogy ever made?
Some say the Star Wars prequels or Drive to Survive, but it is the Josh Revell Dan Ticktum timeline
Would make a standout character in BTCC. Or in the home for all of F1's past and now future talent, Indycar. It's always a little sad when these guys shut off their options for a shot in a series that barely has a 20 car field, has consistently proven that at least 25% of its seats are full of drivers who aren't championship winning material, AND hasn't been competitive until this season of the hybrid era
Ah yes, Oscar Pastry, infamous brother of F2 driver Oscar Piastri!
The baker boy😂
other carlin guys*
Daruvala : Focused(to prove helmut marko)
Lawson Focused " "
Dan: "lAtiFi iS pOo"
I suspect this guy has some kind of mental disorder. Not to bully him. I have Bipolar. That's why I think I can see that with this guy. He just looses it and is so high of himself and so convinced that he is right while it is so obvious he is not. He should let himself get checked..
hands down the best video you've done so far jokes landed, info vs opinion balance, editing, all top tier.
Dan Ticktum seems to get his head straight, maybe go to anger management classes, also maybe coming over to America to compete in either IndyCar or NASCAR would be good for him, especially since the F1 dream is clearly dead as he's been booted from two different driver development programs
Generally speaking to get into F1 you either have to be WDC material or be able to bring money (at they very least be sponsor friendly).
Dan sits somewhere in between.
you either got to be in an academy or rich to get in as a rookie now. just look at the rookies of last 3 years. only latifi and mazepin have not been from an academy. lando (mcl) albon/tsunoda(RB) schumacher/gio(fer) russell (merc)
@@gigsawsoljier1408 Nope you have to finish inside P3 in F2 to have a claim at F1. Ticktum didn't achieve it. Leclerc, Russell, Albon, Norris, Latifi, Tsunoda, Mick, Zhou all did that. Mazepin is the only one who didn't. If Ticktum wanted F1 he really should have tried to win F2 in 2022.
In all honesty I grew to like this bloke a lot the past year and I feel kind of sad that talent like his falls off the charts when it comes to getting an F1 seat.
He made a good point about Latifi tho. You gotta give him props for that.
Personally I think that to truly 'deserve' to be in F1, you've got to have the attitude for it. Seeing people who just have talent and nothing else get into F1 is to me almost as bad as seeing people who just have money and a little talent. I feel like he'd do much better to take the Montoya route and storm off in a huff to NASCAR, where they applaud 'strong' personalities a lot more.
With that being said, I think it was very nice of him to message you directly and admit his wrongs. I noticed that he actually admitted your videos are quite fair and balanced, which is unexpected considering the 'Dick Tantrum' nickname! Dan's not all bad, and he's not all good. He's just in the wrong place in my opinion, and he's letting it frustrate him, which leads to situations like what we've seen...
But even in NASCAR he wouldn't get a top ride if he doesn't change his attitude. Not everyone is Kyle Busch (and luck was on his side when Hendrick dropped him because of his attitude).
With so many IndyCar seats still open, he'll likely have a chance if he shows interest and finishes the year well in F2. Heck even Santino Fetuccini drove in IndyCar for a while