What's Left of the Abandoned Ferny Grove - Dayboro Rail Line, Qld?
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2024
- The Ferny Grove to Dayboro Branch Rail Line holds a fascinating place in Queensland’s rail history. The remnants of this historic rail line on Brisbane’s north-western outskirts evokes nostalgia of an era when steam trains chugged through scenic landscapes, leaving an indelible mark on Queensland’s history.
In the early 1900s this area at the eastern base of the D’Aguilar Range was prospering as farming and timber logging country, but roads were very rudimentary, which made getting produce to markets in Brisbane and beyond very challenging.
The Ferny Grove Rail Station opened in 1918 and the branch line to Dayboro was completed in 1920, providing transportation for passengers and freight. As time went by, there was an increase of motor vehicles and improved roads, causing rail usage to decline. This particular line ceased operating in 1955, a similar time to other branch lines located around Queensland. At this time there was broad rationalization by the Queensland Government of its rail network.
We follow the abandoned rail line (or what remains of it) from Dayboro into Ferny Grove, which is where the original branch line started.
Dayboro - the end of the line! The rail reached Dayboro in September 1920, providing a vital link for the local community by connecting them to nearby areas.
Armstrong Creek was a farming district. In 1931 rail motor services were introduced, and weekend excursion trains often brought picnic groups to this station.
Kobble Creek was predominately a dairy farming community with some banana and pineapple farming on the surrounding hillsides. There was also timber logging in the area. The Dayboro branch line reached Kobble Creek in 1919.
Samsonvale Rail Station is now under water in what is now Lake Samsonvale, a catchment area for the North Pine Dam.
Mount Samson rail platform remains can still be seen in the small village beside the present Samsonvale and Districts Public Hall.
Closeburn Rail Station was originally called Cedar Creek Station but was renamed in 1931 to Closeburn Station.
Nothing remains of Yugar Rail Station, however the Yugar Rail Tunnel can still be accessed via the Currawong Rail Trail, about 800 metres in length each way. The tunnel is now home to a colony of bent-winged bats that are used for University of Queensland study purposes. There is no access inside the tunnel. The tunnel length is approximately 80m, the longest rail tunnel in the Pine Rivers area. Yugar was once a heavily forested area with limited access due to its surrounding steep ranges. Timber, dairy and bananas were the main sources of income for those who resided in this area in the early 1900s.
Samford Rail Station was located in what is now the business heart of Samford village. The old rail station is now home to the Visitor Information Centre. The rail line from Ferny Grove to Samford opened mid-1918. The establishment of the station prompted several scattered businesses to relocate nearby. It is still a busy little commercial centre to this day.
Camp Mountain Rail Station opened in 1918 as part of the extension to Samford. It served as a vital transportation hub for the local community. There was a quarry located in this area and between 1921 and 1923, quarried granite was transported via rail into Brisbane near the Roma Street rail yards. These large granodiorite blocks were used for the foundations of the Brisbane City Hall.
In 1947 Camp Mountain was the location of Queensland’s worst ever railway accident, resulting in 16 deaths, including the driver and the fireman. Another 38 people were injured. The ill-fated train was chartered by the social and recreation club for employees of the Department of Trade and Customs. This train carried around 215 passengers, mostly employees and their families, who were hoping to celebrate the Labor Day public holiday with a picnic at Closeburn. Sadly, this accident occurred on the way to Closeburn. To find out more about this rail tragedy, this link will take you to a video titled 'A screeching across the paddocks - the Camp Mountain rail disaster' by Moreton Bay Regional Libraries and Queensland Rail -
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Ferny Grove Rail Station is still open today and is the ‘end of the line’. In 2012 the Station underwent a significant upgrade as part of the Keperra-Ferny Grove duplication project which included: relocating the platform; construction of a new station building; expansion of the car park. Stage 2 of the commuter carpark is now underway and is due for completion in 2025. It is a huge carpark!
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My Dad was on the train that crashed at Camp Mountain. Having traveled that line before, he knew something wasn't right before it crashed. He never spoke about it at all until a newspaper contacted him for one of the anniversaries. He and his work mates jumped out and started helping drag people out. I remember when he was retelling the story he became very upset when he recalled trying to help the Fireman (might have been the driver, I can't remember) Apparently he'd been caught up in the wheels of the locomotive. And he told me that the whistle just kept going and for years after, until QLD Rail introduced diesels, the sound of a steam train whistle upset him.
Wow, what an interesting story. But how very distressing this must have been for your dad, which is evidenced by his ongoing reaction to steam train whistles. What a very poignant tale for your dad to tell to the media, it would have evoked a range of emotions. Thank you so very much for sharing this with us. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
My Grandfather on my Mothers side Frank Stubbs had a property near the rail line where the accident occured and made their way to the scene, my mother was a nurse and was at home at the time of the accident and assisted the injured.
Thanks for sharing that interesting story Brian. It must have been such a confronting and shocking scene for those who assisted at the accident. Thank you for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
I have a booklet titled "The Camp Mountain Railway Disaster 5th May 1947" A history compiled by Peter Burden and Graham Bailey.
@@holdenmad111 I'll have to get the booklet and see if there is any reference to what My mother had told me many years ago of her and her Father attending the accident, Mum (Valmai) was only around 15 years old and was a trainee nurse at the time.
I walked the old line in a fundraiser for the Bush Fire Brigade back in the mid 1990s...the drought was on and the level of the North Pine Dam was so low the trackbed was exposed. We stayed the night in the Samford Hall and watched old films of the line.
Postman's Ridge Rd has the trackbed going over the top of it, the bridge from Samford on the Dayboro side the old stumps are still there and Lanita Rd at Ferny Grove follows the alignment as well.
Great video
We're so happy that you enjoyed the video and thanks so much for sharing your experiences. We have have learnt so much more about this rail line from the comments we've received. Best wishes, Joe and lea.
My brother in law and i did that walk too and went right past my place in yugar. Our wives brought us beers much to the annoyance of the others haha.
Thanks for making the video. It’s always so shortsighted when railway lines are closed down.
Yes, we travelled in Queensland a bit last year and were really surprised when we noticed that a number of little localities were once on a branch line - many closed in the 1950s it seems. Such a shame! Thank you so much for watching, and it was lovely to receive your comment. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
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Hello Lea & Joe.
Absolutely delightful presentation on the rediscovery of our sadly "lost" Dayboro rail line.
My observations indicate the primary reason for abandoning many of Queensland's very important & once vital outlying railways can be attributed to the mass manufacture in Aust of a brilliantly useful thing called the "Utility". After General Motors Holdens began selling staggering numbers of robust, affordable & very economical passenger cars & utilities in 1948, private car ownership took off like a brush fire. By 1955 the Holden Ute was a piece of standard equipment on rural properties from Hobart to Darwin. Once local producers & smallcrops farmers in the Samford Dayboro area had a utility on hand, they could carry produce straight to market in or near Brisbane, sell, purchase items they needed & wanted & return in a day as opposed to working within train time tables, waiting around for trains to arrive, unload/load or leave & waiting to get paid for produce that had to be eventually unloaded at the Roma Street Goods Yard or elsewhere & then trucked or otherwise carted to a point of retail.
I think it's pretty safe to declare the very popular Holden Ute played a leading hand in the tragic abandonment death of many of our once vital spur lines.
When you visit old discontinued lines as you have just done & you witness the staggering amount of clearing, contouring, cutting & filling, tunnelling, batter & bank grading & retention & stabilisation carried out BEFORE sleepers, tracks, sidings, platforms, loading docks & stations were laid in, you can form a bit of an idea of the massive amounts invested to provide these fabulous railway systems.
It's heartbreaking to see all that completed work is now disregarded & largely ignored as development & nature swallow the lot up like it's all nothing of value.
Thankyou so very much for all the trouble you went to to bring us footage & wonderful information about the old forgotten Dayboro Line. I lived in the Everton Hills area in 1980 when I was just a 17 year old "hoodlum" "terrorising" the North Western suburbs of Brisbane in my noisy hotted up FC Holden. I worked in a factory in Fortitude Valley & caught the train in from Oxford Park many times all those years ago. On a Friday evening I would meet up with locals my age at the Mitchelton Skating Rink on Osborne Road right across from the "Mitchie" train station. I never skated in my life, but all the very attractive local girls who did would show up at the skating rink!
From there, carloads of us would roar about exploring the area & Samford was very popular. I spent many weekends in the early '80s racing around in old cars with likeminded friends. We would park beside the road above the "haunted" tunnel & scramble down the embankment to the railway cutting, then walk to the right straight into the gloomy disused tunnel. Some girls loved it. Some were terrified. (That was the general idea at the time).
The tunnel was completely blocked at the north end by decomposing household waste & garbage because locals had used the cutting at the northern end as a rubbish tip. What is now known as Arthur Ross Park was still in use as a dump in 1980 & the volume of deposited rubbish had completely smothered the tunnel entrance to a height way over the tunnel roof. I have very clear recollections of that area because the stripped shell of a highly desirable custom painted FC Holden panel van was laying at that dump. I desperately wanted to rescue that van, but I was just a kooky kid with no way of picking it up & nowhere to put it.
Those same old Early Model Holdens which had only a few decades earlier basicly displaced our old railways were dumped everywhere on the outskirts of Brisbane back then & I constantly hunted for them.
So, 44 years later, I still have a flock of old Holdens & many FCs. I have wanted for decades to revisit the exact same locations you just filmed for us & life got in the way... You just reminded me.
I believe I am in debt to you...
The locals I met said the tunnel was haunted after a terrible train accident had taken many lives nearby. I never found any documented evidence of that train smash, but you have found it for me! We were all just kids & we'd heard about this mysterious abandoned spooky ol' tunnel. Eventually, we headed out & found it. NO BARRIERS IN PLACE BACK THEN. We just walked straight in. The air up the end was stale & nasty due to the heaped up rubbish. No fools with spray cans had been there.
I still remember most of the wonderful faces & some of the names of the beautiful people I met in that area all those years ago. I wish I could return to them & that locality exactly as we were back in 1980. We were young & exploring. We never imagined we'd one day be looking back & calling those steamy hot summer days & nights the good ol' days, which they were.
All my friends from back then grew up. I never did. I'd go back to 1980 in a hearbeat.
Thankyou for your amazing little presentation. I really enjoyed it. It really is a treat.
Hi John, thank you so much for your wonderful comment. We had a lot of fun preparing the video and are amazed at the positive feedback and views we've received. I believe that you're on the money as to the demise of that branch line, utes came along and the roads got a hell of a lot better, but it's so sad to see the the huge amount of effort and materials just fade away in relevance. I grew up close to you in Stafford and went to Everton Park High in the 70s. I also have fond memories of the Michelton Skate rink and it's timber floor, some skaters sounded like they had 2 stroke engines as their wheels roared across the floorboards. It sounds like you had a fantastic time of it taking your rite of passage in the area back back then. Lea and I are very pleased that you enjoyed our little video, we're very new to UA-cam and must apologise that we didn't get back to you sooner as we missed your reply. Wishing you all the best, Joe and Lea.
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The old steel pipe farm gate laying beside the bed at the beginning of the cutting which leads to the tunnel was upright & securely locked as a barrier to kooks like me back in January 1980. Had it not been there, we would have driven straight up to the tunnel AND STRAIGHT INTO IT!
My eyesight was excellent back then. I could pretty much see in the dark. I don't remember owning a torch. I recall walking all the way to the end of the tunnel hoping to emerge at the other end. I was terribly disappointed when I discovered our path was completely blocked by household rubbish.
We returned to my car & drove a short distance to where we figured the other end of the tunnel should be & found the entire cutting filled to the brim with rubbish. I'd never seen anything like that before & I was totally dumbfounded. It all seemed rather grubby & inconsiderate to me.
I know now, with just one truck & my excavator, I could easily clear that mess away in just one day. I'm sure we could provide the bats with an alternate new home nearby if that suited our erm. . . "friends" in government. By rights, all that seeping contaminating garbage should have been cleaned out of there 30 years ago by the EPA. Declaring the tunnel an undisturbable bat haven lets them off the hook. Whacking up a massive steel grate to keep prying eyes away from their mess would have been a very cheap alternative to tidying things up & decontaminating the site... Good ol' honest gov.
The Camp Mountain Disaster has always been a mystery for me. The kids I met in the area said a train had crashed near the tunnel & people had died. It was a local legend I never forgot about. They said the tunnel was haunted by these lost souls. I just assumed there had been a rail incident between Samford & the tunnel or perhaps inside the tunnel itself, but never found any history of such an incident. It's been well over 40 years since I heard that legend. Amazingly, you also found the tunnel, found the real story behind the legend, found out what actually did indeed happen & you solved that mystery for me. I'd always looked for history of a Samford Train Crash as opposed to a Camp Mountain Train Crash. No one knew anything about any rail incident at Samford. I always believed the kids were honest & onto something, but I never could find any truth to that local legend. I owe you one!
I'll plan a trip down to the tunnel. The resident bats will certainly fly out at night. They're 100% nocturnal. I'd like to aim a pencil beam straight to the very end through that grille & have a look at what our honest gov friends have done about the stinky mess heaped up at the end of that tunnel with my binoculars. I'll bet a hundred bucks they've capped the end just short of that rotten rubbish with a brick wall to hide the filth they don't want seen & that they don't want to clean up. That tunnel could be cleaned up in a day & reopened to the public exactly as it should be. I expect that land will all still be gazetted transport corridor or crown land. It would have been that way when the gov negligent grubs let other grubs dump all their garbage in there.
I believe a small quiet investigation is warranted. I'll look into it. I'm sure our beloved gov will want to make amends & put things right rather than see themselves on TV facing an unhappy public. I'll see if we can have that tunnel cleaned up & returned to the public.
I did notice a truckload of fairly fresh concrete & rubble has been dumped on the fill in the vicinity of the blocked end of the tunnel. That sort of thing should have been stopped & policed 20 years ago. When you look at what local councils & enthusiasts have done with other old disused rail tunnels near Cooyar & elsewhere, you can't help but realise the Pine Rivers Shire Council IS WAY OUT OF ORDER with their... erm management of the Yugar Tunnel. I think some "rescue" may be in order.
If you decide to head off, camera in hand on further adventures, I recommend heading out to Coominya & that area. There are some simply stunning old disused bridges out there. Some are very old timber & simply awesome. There's a real beauty in steel between Coominya & Lowood. I worked in that area years ago & saw numerous wonderful old bridges worth some attention.
Thankyou for your great little movie on the old Dayboro Railway. It brought back fabulous memories for me.
I'll see what can be done to have the old tunnel sorted out. In today's money, that lovely old tunnel is worth around 2 Million Dollars. Leaving it blocked with rubbish, calling it a bat house & locking everyone out of it is just wrong & typical of what you get from gov nowadays. We can do better than that. First step is to determine who owns the land. The tunnel runs directly under the roadway, so we won't have to look too far to find those responsible.
John, I can just imagine what a wonderful walk the Currawong Trail would be if it included the tunnel and beyond. I'm certain it would be immensely popular.
If you're interested, we used these online resources for our research, they're excellent:
trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/
ourstory.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/
A screeching across the paddocks - the Camp Mountain rail disaster' by Moreton Bay Regional Libraries and Queensland Rail -
ua-cam.com/video/C2uRGANCgEg/v-deo.htmlsi=wCBnLsrtXlwzYpVU
Best wishes, Joe and Lea
Wow , i just found your vlog , brings back some memories , i vaguely remember when i was a child going to the tip at the end on the tunnel with my father in his crane t lift an od tractor someone had dumped onto his mates truck for scrap metal , many years later in the late 90s i tracked the cuttings as much as i could back to Camp mountain starting at Dayboro , theres was still a few stumps from the bridge over the North Pine river then , i found the cutting again on the south side of the river again but one part was a bit of a tip with a few cars in there and scrap metal , i didn't look for the stations as technology and information wasntias easy to get back then , found the cutting again at Kobble creek park then it veared off into the dam about a mile south , found the cutting again near the Samsonvale hall where it looked around the back of it and off to Samford direction, the tip at the tunnel was totally overgrown with vegetation and the other end was still open , anyway my reply is getting a bit long lol , i enjoyed your vlog , thanks for sharing .
Hi Ray, so glad you liked the video and thanks for sharing your experiences as a child and hunting the trail. We were very lucky to have the ExplorOZ mapping software on a GPS enabled tablet. The mapping is incredibly detailed with the entire disused track and the location of all of the stations. We couldn't get close to Samsonvale, I would have loved to see the cutting heading into the dam but we saw a heck of a lot on that day. Thanks again for your wonderful comment and for watching. Joe and Lea.
Almost 60 years ago a fellow scout and myself were on a "first class hike" and one of our objectives was the Camp Mountain station. We didn't find it because there was nothing left even then, but a local farmer did confirm that we were very close to it and when he bumped into us, we were hiking down a small track that was where the line ran. That whole area was largely bush in those days except for a few dairy farms. It certainly has changed!
Thanks very much for your comment, that's very interesting that everything was gone only 10 years after the line closed. I was wondering about that. It sounds like you had a great hike, I would have loved to have seen it back then. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. Joe and Lea.
We actually got lost for about half a day as the maps and the hike instructions were hopelessly out of date. But that tells you how much bush was still around in that part of Brisbane in those days. We managed to re-establish where we were after we bumped into that farmer who was quite puzzled anyone, especially spotty-faced youths would be tramping around in the bush out there looking for a train station that was long gone.
Samford was almost all dairy farms then. My dad had a WW2 friend who had one out there and we kids used to swim in the beautiful creek on his property while the adults drank tea and chatted. Great days and great memories.
What a wonderful story, from a time when kids could be adventurous. I love it, looks like that hike gave you some great memories. Was the first class hike part of your Adventurer badge "Big Green" ? if so I hope you have a photo receiving it. Thanks again for your amazing insights. Joe and Lea
It would have been a great tourist attraction. Having a steam train running through to Dayboro. The horse rider clubs still travel the main parts.
Wouldn't it just be the best. The Mary Valley Rattler does very well. Thanks so much for watching and your comment. Joe and Lea.
Before Lake Samsonvale was built, my grandparents owned a farm that straddled the North Pine River between Whiteside Rd and the new Petrie~Dayboro Rd with Assets Rd right through the middle of the farm. I remember from my childhood (late 1960s early 1970s) there used to be a high wooden trestle railway bridge across the North Pine River where the Apex Park is now along Mount Samson Rd. We crossed it one night in my Dad's car when the river was in flood. The track had been removed and replaced with running boards for car tyres. It was not much wider than the car, there were no side rails or lighting. I remember being so scared the car would fall off into the flooded river. I think there might have been a causeway or low bridge for the main road back then, but locals used the high trestle when the river flooded.
When I got my license in the 1980s I remember going 4wding under the new concrete bridge and we found the holes left behind after the old trestle bents were removed. I've always thought it was such a pity they removed the original wooden trestle bridge.
What a fantastic story Tony, thanks so much for sharing it with us. I can just imagine what is was like. Samsonvale was one area we couldn't get into, we understand it's a nature reserve now where the old station was. We really appreciate your watching the video. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Adsetts Road was once part of Daybro Road. The eastern part of Daybro Road was renamed after it was bypassed with the flooding of Lake Samsonvale, circa 1970s. The western bypassed section is now Rush Creek Road. Cheers
I grew up at Kallangur during the late 60s, 70s and 80s and I was interested in reading your recollections of the area. We often spent time on the North Pine river at Petrie and would drive to Dayboro for outings. I remember when they built the North Pine Dam and also swimming in the river at Young's Crossing. I didn't realise there was a railway line to Dayboro until I saw this video. Great memories!
The Locomotive C17. 824 still survives In a park at Injune. Typical QR station staff not letting you film... nice video
Thanks for the info and really glad you liked the video. I was aware the loco is at Injune, would have loved to filmed it for the video but a little too far away. I'm sure we'll catch up with it on our travels. As for filming the station, that's our rookie error not following up on permits. Thanks for commenting, Joe and Lea.
@RoaminWithTheRubes it is an over reaction in my opinion, to something people do all the time. It's a public space. Anyway I will pass this onto a friend of mine who has a large collection of information on the line and disaster. There were also quarries on the line that QR used to obtain ballast for the Brisbane suburban network in the 1950's. Cheers from Emerald
Thanks for passing the info on Adrian, it such an interesting subject. Thanks so much for watching, Joe and Lea.
@@RoaminWithTheRubesTwo carriages also survive at the Southern Downs Railway Society in Warwick
Thanks, that's good to know, hope to look them up next time we are in Warwick.
Yes the council should mark the former sites of railway stations. For reference station buildings of that era were almost identical for ease of construction so it's likely they all resembled closely the surviving building in Samford. Thanks for the informative and interesting video 👌
We're very glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for your comment. We'd love to see them marked before they fade away forever. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Great video. I knew about the tunnel..they used to grow mushrooms in it back in the 70's...but wasnt aware of the complete railway line...thanks for the great education
Glad you enjoyed the video. Wow! we're learning so much for the comments about this old line. I never knew they grew mushrooms in the old Yugar tunnel. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Joe and Lea
Wow hasn't Ferny Grove changed. I used to go to Dayboro almost every weekend when I lived in Gaythorne. I was house hunting in Ferny Hills in the late '90's and Ferny Grove was still the old wooden station, now look at it. Parking was a huge problem with only about a dozen spots. The house I put an offer in on was about a 15 minute walk away but they were stuck on the $153k asking price and I could only go to $149k. I never new the rail ran further than Ferny Grove.
It's amazing how Ferny Grove is powering along, we couldn't believe it either. Thanks for watching and sharing your story, we really appreciate your getting back to us. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Being from a "railway" family this was a great watch. You need to go to Monto and check out the railway there, very interesting
Thanks so much, was fun following the track remain and we learnt lots along the way. We’ve been through Monto but not really spent time there, will have to spend more time there next time we head north.
Fascinating. A pity so little remains to mark the train route. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Margaret, thanks so much watching. Yes, not a lot left at all. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
Absolutely appreciate your investigations and revelations of the old railway. As a former resident of Samsonvale I sincerely appreciate the insights. Thank you!
Hi Gary, Lea and I are very pleased that you liked our little video. Thank you so much for your kind words. Joe and Lea.
Thank you. I'm in the "Hills" district and it was really interesting learning more about the old Ferny Grove - Samford - Dayboro line. What became sleepy townships are now bustling once again with a new wave of townsfolk and day trippers. Have walked on, driven along, or ridden through some of those stretches many times. And I agree that more stations and parts of the old line could be marked with commemorative markers like the one at the Yugar tunnel. Cheers.
Thanks for your comment Neil, glad you enjoyed the video. It's a wonderful area indeed, we loved that day out filming. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Great work, super interesting. I'd never heard about this line at all.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for the positive feedback, it's so encouraging for us. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Thanks for sharing. I did an exploration about 10 years ago. There are a few bridge remains left, albeit not much. Timber posts at Terrors Creek, as well as in a farm paddock visible and east of Dayboro (at Briscoe Rd) (you can also see the embankment). Cut off posts in North Pine River, station platform as per Closeburn at Samsonvale still remains (hidden in the grass), cut off posts in South Pine River near Warwick Lane and more cut off posts in Dry Creek - which is visible along the McClean Rd bikeway. The original telegraph line poles are still in place along McClean Road and Lanita Road (some, not all). These carry comms lines and are distinctively shorter than modern power line poles and have metal domed tops. Finally, the line alignment between Lanita Rd and McClean Rd is now a bikeway through the bush. Some the drainage culverts are original. If you didn't know what you were looking for, you'd never know.
Thanks Brad for all of that information. We would never have imagined the rabbit hole we were entering on the subject of this branch line, it's absolutely fascinating and thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. We're going to have a look based on your notes and see what we can find. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Thanks for that video. Hard work following that old trail. I took a photo a few years ago where the track bed came down beside a shop at Dayboro then crossed the road to it's terminus but I suppose that's gone by now. Cheers
Thanks for watching Dave, and we really appreciate your feedback. Yes, nothing much at all left at Dayboro. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
I realy enjoyed this in many ways. I began work in 1974 with the rail in NSW working as cleark in the ticket office in Moree for 7 years and 18 months in. Gunnedah. My last 9 years of working life was as a Security Guard on the Brisbane Suburban network. I worked Cabbolture to Ipswich a lot of my 9 years. Also done a few months 1 station south of Woomby. At one point I done several months Ferny Grove to Central on Sunday nights.
The branch to Samford opened in 1920 the year my farther was born. Closed in 1955 the year I was born. My brother-in-law had a dairy farm at Koble Creek and took his milk up every morning to the station. Would have been a few years before the line closed.
I realy loved this video. Mote of these things need to be preserved. As you said a few post pointing out approx site of station and a plaque. I will never loose my love for trains. Loved ridding the old rattler. Used to travel Raleigh to Casino when I was 4 or 5. Mum and us 2 boys would go have a week with mums mother. I have also Done Casino to Perth around 74 or 75
Hi John, thanks for watching and sharing your lovely story. I can so understand rail getting into your blood. I was trying to imagine your brother-in-law heading to Kobble Creek station each day with his milk, it must have looked so different then. We're so glad you enjoyed the video, best wishes Joe and Lea.
Oh my gosh. I used to travel to school, then later to work every day in the 70's, 80's & 90's from the Ferny Grove station. Always wanted to know the full story of this. And yes, the ticket office was a small wooden structure that smelled weird. ☺️Thanks.
Thanks so much for watching and glad you enjoyed the story. Interesting about the ticket office! Cheers, Lea and Joe.
Thanks Rubes. Really enjoyed this. My father"s family were all strewn through the area from Morayfield to Redcliffe to Kobble. Many of the family are part of the historic furniture of Samsonvale/Mt Samson. Well done! Makes me consider doing the rounds with a couple of the cousins, before they fall of the perch, to get their knowledge of the heritage.
Thanks so much for watching, and we're pleased that you enjoyed our video. Wonderful to hear that some family members are still in the region. Yes, if you can drive to some of the locations. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
"f you’re filming in public places for personal use, then you don’t have to obtain permission from the person you’re filming or the council. Personal use means that you are filming for your own enjoyment (or for your social media channels)." Only professional film crews need a permit, otherwise no one could take a selfie or a goodbye photo.
Thanks for your comment, Joe and Lea
Hi Joe and Lea, just up from the Samford station the old railway line run adjacent to Station Street. My Mother and Father In-law lived (now my Sister In-law lives there), directly next to the line and there was a rail bridge across the creek. This is now a continuation of Station Street into the new estate. You can still some of the railway cuttings which go past what was the CSIRO. Thanks for sharing your wonderful information. TrickyTrev 👍🐝🍯
Hi Trevor, thanks for watching and thanks so much for all of that information. Lea and I are really happy that you enjoyed the video. We have been overwhelmed by the interest in this branch line. Looks like we'll have to go roamin' there again in the not too distant future. Best wishes, Joe and Lea
We are looking forward to many adventures in our new used Jayco pop top 👍😊
We are sure you will enjoy it very much. Hope you’re planning to have an adventure in it soon.
Mate I reckon that rail line and the one that went out to esk would be so popular now more than the airport line
LOL, very good point - yes I’m sure they would be. Thanks for watching, Lea and Joe.
That huge carpark at Ferny Grove station suggests to me that the rail line land to Samford should have been retained for rebuilding a rail line to Samford and beyond. Thanks for the interesting video.
Thanks so much for watching. Yes, it is a very large carpark that's for sure. We were quite surprised when we saw it. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
Great viewing and history lesson guys. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Peter, glad you enjoyed the video, we had a lot of fun doing that one.
My old shed made a cameo appearance. Matters to no one but it made my day.😅 i loved exploring the old rail line on bikes. Local people are quite proud of knowing about it.
So glad we made your day, that’s wonderful to hear! Yes, it would have been loads of fun and adventure exploring the line. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe
Wow great videos guys,we did what you guys did in purchasing a used camper with all the extras and halved the price 👍
Thank you so much Gaby, glad you liked the video. Joe and Lea.
I grew up around there. You just took me right back! I used to play at the end of Lanita Road in Ferny Grove where there were still traces but that was a long time ago!
So loved hearing that our video resonated with you. Thank you so very much for your feedback. We have been thrilled to hear from a few people who once lived along the line. Kind regards, Lea and Joe.
Great video loved it
Thanks so much! glad you enjoyed it Graham. Best wishes, Joe and lea
Very interesting thankyou for your hard work in making this video.
Thanks so much for your feedback, we're glad you liked the video. We found it a really interesting subject and enjoyed making the video immensely. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
I enjoyed watching this. Cheers!
Thanks so much for watching and giving us feedback. We are really pleased you enjoyed our content. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
From a Pommie, thanks, cobber. I hadn't heard of this railway - indeed, apart from on youtube Aussie railways don't get much coverage over here so its good to see.
Sadly the wreck is all too typical - a national holiday, a special train together with a driver who isn't familiar with the road, and a tragedy results - so many times that has happened, in Europe, USA, Jamaica, Aussie.......
Thanks Mate! Glad you took the time to comment, it's awesome getting some feedback from the UK. You're so correct about the tragedy of these accidents, they're always an end to what should have been a wonderful time. Thanks for watching John, we really appreciate it, Joe and Lea.
Excellent
Thank you
Thank you too for watching, we're glad you enjoyed the video. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
Nice job. Thsnks
Thanks so much for your feedback, we very much appreciate your comment. And thanks for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
Thanks for the video, I'm really interested in old railway lines, you should do one on the old line that runs through the Boyne valley from Caliope down to Monto. There's a few old tunnels I've been to, I find it all quite fascinating. Thanks again.
Hi Tony, thanks so much for watching and we are so pleased you enjoyed the video and gave us feedback. Funny you should mention the line to Monto - we were just talking about this earlier. We also have a video about the Muntapa Rail Tunnel that you may enjoy. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
😮I’d love to see the tunnel at closeburn reopened as a walking trail! It’s still the only tunnel of any kind in the Moreton Shire
Wouldn't that be great, would probably need an umbrella with those bats up on the ceiling though. Thanks for your comment, Joe and Lea.
Half of it is full of rubbish as it was a rubbish tip for decades. A bit hard to reopen and the bats would get displaced.
Our house was on the edge of the line in yugar, we even built the water tanks in the cutting. The yugar station slab is still there 2 houses towards rossleigh ct from our place. Not the pile of concrete you showed :)
Thanks for watching Derek and your comment. I've had a look at my map again and think that I didn't go far enough down the street. I'm super curious now and will have to go and have a look again. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
interesting, thanks
I support your endeavours to showcase the City of Moreton Bay history. Video production tip: Like all documentaries, the narration conveys the story, the vision takes second place to the audio, which can make or break a production. This being the case, the audio levels should be even and audiable. Narration presented to the camera on location does present many difficulties. To overcome some of these difficulties and record the best possible sound, the use of good radio microphones fitted with wind protection is a must. I hope this helps. Cheers, 35 years professional, retired ACS membership.
Thanks so much for watching and your informative comment. I totally accept what you say. We have invested in a set of wireless microphones with dead cats and have been using them. It's a bit of a learning curve which includes how secure the receiver USB-C on an action cam is (not). We appreciate your comment, Joe and Lea.
In some locations you can pick up the path of the old railway via aerial photos. It shows up as slightly less green. Movie location scouts have shown an interest in using the old tunnel (the bat cave) for movie scenes
Thanks for your great comment, it's very much appreciated. We've been using the excellent "ExploreOz" mapping on an android tablet. It identifies the abandoned rail lines on it's topographical map and it's an easy switch to satellite view to see if the formations are still there. It also had the locations of the station ruins which was very very handy for us. That's great about the bat cave, I'm sure it would make a great location for a movie. Best wishes, Joe and Lea
The tunnel is a habitat for microbats and protected. It would never be available for movies.
@@RoaminWithTheRubes which Explor Oz? I can only find rhe traveller and tracker apps
They were just going to be outside when the bats left for the night
It's the traveller app with the etoppo offline maps. Many points of interest on that mapping plus it has a great search feature. Regards Joe.
Wow very interesting story about history old railway to Dayboro .. I love old stream train yes sad about crash ( deaf )
Thank you for watching, and your feedback. We found this to be a fascinating subject and really enjoyed creating the video. Glad you found it interesting. Joe and Lea.
Another interesting point is that a 4 coupled loco with a 4 wheel leading bogie was apparently negotiating the curve until it was tipped over by the derailing tender!
Thanks for your comment Roland, We found that interesting too. Regards Joe and Lea.
I think my grandmothers cousin helped with the rescue of that accident
That’s so interesting Daryl. I’m sure it must have been a horrific scene for those who assisted. Emergency Services in 1947 were nothing like what access today. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
That tunnel looks different to when I was last there in the 1980s. There were no steel bars or graffiti then.
Thanks for watching, gee we would have loved to have seen the tunnel like that. Regards Joe and Lea
i think they will have to put another rail line in there
Yes, the way Brisbane and surrounds are expanding it may certainly need some consideration. Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
Hope not. Railways bring undesirable idiots.
In the 1960s, I was a member of the 1st Brisbane Company of the Boys Brigade. Each year, the company would do an annual hike along the abandoned line, which was easily found in order, to gain the Wayfarers badge.
Hi David, thanks for watching and posting a comment. Lea and I are starting to realise that the old rail is still alive and giving many stories, thanks so much for sharing yours. I would imagine the hike would have been fantastic fun. best wishes, Joe and Lea
@@RoaminWithTheRubes It wasn't just a hike. The boys were charged with collecting wild flowers (I think 10) which were abundant en route. They were then pressed and identified. Great memories.
@@davidarmstrong3564 Wow David, I wonder if any of those pressings still survive. Sounds like a great experience for the boys. Thanks for sharing your insight, best wishes from Joe and Lea.
11.13 standing at the tunnel carn you were standing on top of the tunnel the trail was to the ladys right goes down some stairs to the tunnel under that intersection, the northern end was filled in used as a rubbish dump.
Yes, we did hear the northern end was used as a rubbish dump. We have lived in Moreton Bay for most of our lives and didn’t know about the tunnel at all until researching the branch rail. Hope you enjoyed the video, and thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
A very informative sweet and enjoyable presentation , my family lived in Strathpine for many years and enjoyed day trips to Dayboro and Samford . The colonial past is an eternal existence of virtue and morals ..........chronovision will reveal.
Hi Gavin, so pleased you enjoyed our video, thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe
Currawong trail is very active and is used daily. Everybody knows about the train track around. There was a tip but also a major tunnel collapse that closed the tunnel. Council erected the grills to protect the bats.
Hi Carl, thanks for your comment. We could see on our walk that the trail was used a fair bit, our map showed it as disused. It's a lovely walk for sure, thanks for your information. Best wishes, Joe and Lea.
not allowing filming may be because of antiterrorism laws banning filming at locations that could terrorist targets. I was banned from taking photos at Milton station and told it was to prevent terrorism
Hi Graham, thanks for that heads up re filming and photography bans. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe
Totally ridiculous hey? One can simply hop on google maps and street view and get all the information a terrorist would need without leaving the comfort of their lounge room. Time for these authorities to use some common sense.
The finding of the inquiry on the camp mountain disaster was very conveniently blamed on the deceased driver and fireman involved and little was accredited to the bad condition of the center casting of the lead bogie of the tender which jumped the tracks and derailed the loco. It wasn't the loco that jumped the tracks. It was the tender which caused the loco to derail. That tender could have caused the derailment to occur at any other point of the rail network and with the ability to have caused even greater carnage. Qld Rail skimped on paying Public Holiday wages by not providing an extra man on the loco who was experienced on the line as a pilot and the fireman also had limited knowledge of the line. The dead driver and fireman who were conveniently dead and thereby could not testify, were offered up as scapegoats to cover up other shortcomings of other people. If the driver had had any way of knowing that the center casting on the tender was in such bad condition, I believe he would not have been driving that loco on that day. From the report, and knowing what I do about QR steam locos, the tender had multiple levelling shims in it instead of one purposely made shim which shows that the last time the tender was overhauled, someone had not installed the proper shim. Lubrication was not getting through which was not allowing the bogie to turn freely which would have tended to cause the bogie to climb off the track as it hit the curve. A very grave injustice was done to the driver and fireman and their families and also the guard who was not in a position to do much about what was happening to the loco. The finding of that inquiry should be revisited and appropriate justice should be done. Justice Matthews would have no knowledge of makes a loco tick so, without the testimony of the driver and fireman, had to believe what others were telling him which would be given by those who wanted to cover their backsides.
Hi Roland, thanks so much for your response. We found it a very interesting read. Thanks for watching, Joe and Lea.
Rebuild the rial!
I'm certain the residents of Samford and Dayboro would love that. Thanks for watching, Joe and Lea
G'day Rubes, I just watched your video on the Abandoned Dayboro branch line, just wanted to know if you would be interested to do a video on the Abandoned Caboolture to Killcoy line 😊?
Hi Mark, Joe has done a little research on this line and thinks it could be quite interesting. So yes, we are keen and do have it in mind. Hopefully we can find some time in the not too distant future. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea.
The audio needs some work folks!
Thanks for the feedback, always learning
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I'm with you. Audio was great.
Thanks for the reply
The badly injured driver was of the opinion that insufficient knowledge of the track was a probable cause but he did not know about the condition of the tender bogie center casting when he made the statement and died not a long time after. If that loco had been on the Manly line and the tender derailed on the curved bridge at the bottom of Morningside bank where trains used to lurch heavily as they entered the curve, there would have been the potential to take the whole train crashing to the creek below. The possible result if that happened would have made the Camp Mountain incident pale into insignificance. Having ridden on the footplate of the locos over that bridge, I know just how possible my former statement is for plausibility. It could have. Happened anywhere. Sadly it happened where it did with such tragic consequence. They say dead men don't tell tails and I believe it is fortunate for some that that was the case in the subsequent enquiry.
Interesting insight Roland, thanks for you comment. Joe and Lea
Rail lines followed the lay of the land...all dug by hand horse and dray
Thanks so much for watching. Yes, I don’t think we fully understood what hard work it was back then for the rail workers. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
QR used to stop me taking a video and the staff member often said. . . . . do you have permission to film? My answer was yes. . . . and the staff member walked away! It is public property and I was told that as long as you stay behind the yellow line and have a valid rail ticket, you can take photos at any time!
Thanks John for sharing your rail filming experience. Thanks for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
Go to Mt Perry near Bundaberg
Thanks so much for watching David. We visited Mount Perry a while ago, but yes, would love to go back and do some video. Cheers, Lea and Joe
Thank you for this video, that line has always interested me. But i really don't see why a permit to film is needed in a public area? in public area's there can be no expectation of privacy!
Thanks so much for your feedback, we’re glad you enjoyed our video. I think it was our camera tripod that perhaps caused the concern. There are some guideline for filming on QR property which we are now aware of for next time. Totally a rooky error on our part. Cheers, Lea and Joe.
These old rail lines need to be turned into rail trails like the Brisbane valley rail trail
Yes, there is a great opportunity there. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe
You can follow the rail trail from Ferny Grove Station to Samford. I cycle part of it every morning. It is very popular.
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Thanks for the tip John, we just went and set that up. Kind regards, Joe and Lea
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I don't understand why a permit is needed simply to film parts of a Queensland Government owned railway station. This is a public facility and there should be no censorship involved. Anyway, you could have filmed it from the road or across the line.
Thanks for watching and giving us a comment. Yes all we really wanted was a shot of the entrance, the staff member was very pleasant and explained that it was policy not to permit recording without a permit. It wasn't a biggie for us so we moved on and used a still. we know better for next time.
Weird that you need a permit to film on a railway platform. And you got sprung at Ferny Grove of all places! Must be over zealous power hungry railway employees :-)
Hi Larry, I think perhaps our tripod made us look more official than we are, LOL. The QR employee was lovely. We’ve looked up what we need to do now, so are aware for next time. Not a permit as such, but need to carry the guidelines document with us, and make ourselves known to rail staff. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers, Lea and Joe
@@RoaminWithTheRubes QR infrastructure is not a public place because QR is a corporation, thus making it private. Filming for UA-cam is not regarded as personal use because it is published, which requires permission from QR Corporate. The same goes for national parks, etc. These are not public places. The other element of production is the minefield of copyright. Cheers
Thanks so much for that info. Cheers, Lea and Joe
@RoaminWithTheRubes I've always been curious myself about what was left...
Not a lot Steve, was interesting what we did find however.
@@RoaminWithTheRubes Yes; sadly there are fewer and fewer remains, that once told the story of our local history...
We just love trying to ferret out the history behind things. Have you watched any of Walkabout with Rob, that guy's a legend. Joe
@@RoaminWithTheRubes Yes, I've followed him since he started 👍