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Politician ignore that problem mostly because it takes 50 or more years to materialize effects. This is essence of democracy, you think about 2 term of office not 50 years ahead.
Exactly. But then this is cultural with cost of living a secondary factor. No politician can change the culture. I think what will come is government mandates on having children with penalties and removal of benefits if one doesn't. Covid showed western governments can be dictatorial.
I wanted to reply but YT uses CENSORSHIP!
My comment did not offend anyone and was factual
@@karo2090 YT is worse than Belarus in censorship.
Course, in any true representitive government; you have really a LOT of feedback; so it really does provide you sufficient feedback to remove the bad decisions.
Democrazy will cause the fall if the west
This happens in Greece from 80s. 2 cities has gathered the 65% of entire population. Are countless villages all over country with no single one person. And hundreds villages with less than 50 residents. The only good effect of this is natural landscapes became even better that before.
Womp womp
If you look closely leftist support literally everything that will make this worse.... Seems like they are working against our countries 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Bang Bang ,Gang Bang !
And yet housing is unaffordable! I have a greek friend who calls the government a bunch of MAFFIA cartello members!!!
When you have fruits and vegetables more expensive IN GREECE than in GERMANY!!! You know you F'ed up!!!!
(Yes both countries use the euro, but salaries in Greece = garbage!)
Spain is a desert...
We went from "think of the children" to "think of the elderly"
And this is the problem with all of the world because fools believed either version. No each behavior in society is designed around giving men the benefits they'd otherwise not have
@@GhossupGurls you need a therapist
@@GhossupGurls Elaborate
I left the Canary Islands (Spain) in December 1994. I have never been back. I moved to Sydney, Australia. I've stayed home to raise and homeschool my family. We live well on one income. Folla España.
El problema es la revolución industrial y el feminismo.
@@azelucy1798 if men had more access to money like higher paying jobs and can afford a house they will want someone to share it with men will want to marry and have kids, but today men are competing with women in the work force Banks are buying up homes and apartments raising the prices.
Most European countries are in the same dire situation.
Not just Europe, look at S.Korea, its so much worse over there.
@@yafim89 true
Also Puerto Rico . @@yafim89
@@yafim89Yeah, East Asia(South Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan) are in an even worse position
@@thomasgrabkowski8283not just them. This is all over the world. Even in Muslim countries and surprisingly also in most African countries too, though in a lesser degree. It’s a world wide epidemic that is not talked about.
Older people are more important for politicians then younger people
@Hasanaljadid They vote more. Also the number of elderly is increasing whilst the young decrease in number. Politicians will pander to people that will give them the votes they need to win.
I hope you will never get old then.
@@lioneldemun6033People should save and invest for The future then living on pensions
Demographics groups that vote in large numbers are most important. In a young country they will seek votes from the young in an old country it’s the opposite a politician has to do whatever keeps them in their job
@@winterskiU Politicians pander to everybody but serve themselves and their wealthy benefactors.
I thought of a term that describes it perfectly.
We've built a mansion we no longer have the biological capacity to maintain. We are overworked, no longer in healthy functioning relationships, numbed, not sleeping enough leading to brain problems later on in life, our food is hurting us and causing loss of fertility, we are going mad and addicted. We built a mansion we are losing interest in maintaining. Maybe downsizing isn't such a bad thing.
But birth rates are plummeting even in Northern European countries with robust social welfare systems, either social welfare is completely pointless because it's clearly not the social safety net if people don't feel economically safe enough to have children, or costs of living is simply being used as an excuse by people who don't want to lose their lifestyles. My money is on the latter, as a 25-year-old, the people in my age group that I've interacted with who would want to have children are at the most 30% and that's regardless of the qualifications they hold or the kind of job they have.
As said in the video, young people want to party and have fun and unfortunately, that phase outlasts our ability to have children, that's why birth rates are declining, more so than the expensive cost of living.
You built a mansion and invited coward residents who didn't fight for their own "home"
Why will they fight for yours?
Poor nations have higher birthrates
@@NeostormXLMAX LOOK WHO RULES AND HOW THE ECONOMIES WERE STARTED MOST STARTED WITH 1 COMMON THING
Cost of living is too high, housing is too expensive. This is the story of the western world right now. As long as cost of living continues to rise and wages stagnate people are not going to have children.
This is "not" a western phenomenon. Eastern countries have the same problem with many in worse shape than Spain. For example, China and South Korea have an even lower birth rate than Spain and have had it for longer. In in the case of China it's still a poor country when compared to Spain or Korea which means it has fewer resources per capita than either Spain or Korea. Even Sub-Sarahann Africa is facing this problem just not as advanced.
Yes, but the difference is that north-western Europe doesn't have a demographic problem, or at least it won't experience one for another 20 to 30 years, as their birthrate were much higher than southern Eastern and Central Europe for the last 45 years, until the pandemic when they started to drop also.When the crisis starts happening, skilled workers from Germany, Italy, Spain, Poland, et Japan, South Korea and China mayl abandon their countries and moved to USA, UK, Scandinavia , , Netherlands and France where there won't be a crisis for at least a couple of decades
Of course, there are so many other serious or crisis level factors which could play out in the near to long-term future, which may make this a secondary issue and also the robotics and AI and improvements to older people's health in the next generation may factor in how it all plays out also
Jusy wait till low population cause falling of housing prices. Immigration legal and illegal can prolong this but will not prevent this. Sooner or later crime will increase and housing will still crash but locals may already migrated away.
yup simple as that
Nonsense.
I recommend the channel Kaiserbuch if you want to see this myth debunked.
The poorer someone is, the more likely they are to have children. Do you think the people in Chad or Nigeria are richer ?
Immigration is not a solution to population collapse. After the first generation of immigrants, the birthrate of the 2nd generation falls to match the birthrate of the host country
Sure, and if you consider many of Spain inmigrants are latinos, which happen to be coming from countries that are already facing demographic issues themselves...
sure, tell that to countries with almost no immigration at all like japan and south korea... and I wonder why the countries with the most immigrants don't have demographic issues or face any sort of population collapse. Spain's case is unique in the way it screws over young people who can barely afford to live, let alone have children.
@@chuckmarius323 What? Germany has tons of immigrants and gets more and more and still has the same demographic issues like Spain. The german population shrinks a lot as well.
Also nowadays some second generation migrants don’t want to adapt, so what the point if our culture would be erased anyway
@@chuckmarius323the countries in Europe with the highest immigration still have the same demographic problems overall. The only ways they could solve it would be to increase immigration so high the native population becomes a small minority of the population which is politically infeasible in a democracy especially or find methods of increasing birthrates a lot which so far nobody has managed to do around the world.
this is a problem of almost all highly developed countries not just Spain....Italy, France, South Korea, Japan,,,just to name a few
It is also impacting undeveloped countries. This is a global issue effecting ever country in the world. Even Sub-Saharan countries are not immune to this phenomenon their just not as advanced as the highly developed countries. What this means for the world nobody knows for certain, but we are almost certainly in for a few decades radical change and instability as a result.
soooo...it doesnt matter?
If you actually watched the video you would know that he mentions this
The speed of the drop in population is a huge factor. A fertility rate of 1.1 means that the population is getting halved, while a 1.8 or 1.9 means a more controlled descend while also giving more time top plan for solutions.
We need the Human population to decline to preserve the species. The Human population will peak at around 10.5 billion people. There is a limit to how many modern Humans our planet's atmosphere can maintain, best to stay within that limit. In the meantime new paradigms on how local resources and already existing infrastructures are allocated will have to be explored and ultimately applied, automation increased to take the place of Human labour etc. Humanity has adapted to social upheavals many many times before and each time society has viewed that change with fear and trepidation, yet each time we have thrived in the end bringing us to this modern, albeit overpopulated, world we [most of us] enjoy today. We will adapt again and today's fears will seem just as illogical as the fears of peoples' in our distant past. The transition will be the most difficult part.
Im portuguese and my father told me: "we lived an easy life and didn't know it at the time, you either emigrate or you'll be a slave for the system". Unfortunately, like 1/3 of the Portuguese people between 18 to 35, I will also emigrate. I'm a software engineer and my pay is 1800 euros a month (and people say that I'm rich and should be taxed more). A 0 bedroom apartment or with some luck a 1 bedroom apartment in a very bad condition is 1200 euros(higher than the median salary) where I live, it's actually impossible to live. I know some EU countries are going thru a bad time but when I look at the Netherlands that's in a housing crisis, i call tell its still much better than here.
if you're a software engineer, come to Germany or Austria. Rent is dirt cheap and IT professionals are in high demand. Median salary is 3,500€ per month
@@sebastiangruenfeld141 yea I’ve been looking at both countries, but idk if the Portuguese are part of the group that isn’t welcome there. I dont really want to disturb the locals for only living. If we are welcome, then I would seriusly consider it.
@@goncaloaraujo6644
@@goncaloaraujo6644 nao oicas este gajo renda na alemanha e muito maior eu vivo aqui e o clima aqui e uma bela merda cada vez ta tudo pior provavelmente vou sair daqui no proximo ano o governo alemao e o pior que ja vi e ja vivi em muitos paises na europa oeste e nem sempre aceitam os teus estudos aqui , tens de traduzilos e isso demora as vezes anos no minimo meio ano por causa da burocracia awqui que tambem e a pior que ja vi , austria e suica e muito melhor
@@sebastiangruenfeld141seriously, despite the fact that I like Germany however tax and home prices are damn high. Society as well hard to integrate
28M married homeowner.
We're trying to have kids and while my wife is not worried about this ("when de boomers finally die in 30years we will all be fine"), I honestly lose sleep to this issue every single week.
It just doesn't get better, we're headed straight to a geriatric society, outside most people are older than me, hospitals are full, and I know it's only going to get worse when we have children.
None of my childhood friends have kids. None.
All I wonder is which country is going to be the first one to either ban birth control or ban abortion.
What ever the cramps society will pull to try and fix this, it will be too little too late.
It's truly an incredible time to be alive, yet it has me at times terrified on what is to come.
Here's to the future everyone, God bless you and carry the light of humanity forward❤️
Good luck with the kid 🤞
@@AskTorin your wife is right. Boomers are not immortal. Children are dependent nowadays into their twenties so a country with fewer children is better off than developing countries with large elderly and children/ adolescent populations to carry. That’s why high fertility countries are desperate to export their “doctors and engineers” since they face economic collapse otherwise. Even China has a youth unemployment crisis. Most people are useless eaters at any age.
Congratulations
‘Do’
Abortion and birth control in past societies were highly dangerous and illegal by most legislations secular and ecclesiastical , but as a measure it did not work. We have found abortion instruments in all archaeological contexts. Population trends remained pretty stable and restricted in medieval and early modern Europe due to lack of vaccines, antibiotics, hygiene, wars, plagues, famine, disasters. Not even forced or encouraged celibacy for parts of the population (e.g. monasticism) worked to stop abortion and contraception. Because we know for a fact that no force on earth heaven or hell ever stopped a woman from refusing to gestate and give birth to an unwanted child even at the risk of her own life. Women are humans too and partake of human free will, determination, and actions.
If the Spanish govt overtaxes young people to give big pensions to the old, then the young people might emigrate massively to countries with better deals. Or not immigrate to Spain. Then the govt budget will collapse and force a rethink.
actually, Spain is seeing a net population increase.
I would not worry that much about Spain. They are still able to attract educated and culturally unproblematic immigrants from Latin America, their former colonies, due to their common language. I would worry more about countries like Germany, Austria, Denmark, Sweden, etc. Those countries are facing many problems in the future due to uneducated muslim migrants from North Africa, Middle East, Afghanistan, etc.
Denmark and Sweden don't have a birthrate crisis as they have only been just under replacement levels for the last 45 years, unlike Germany, Italy and Spain these birthrates have been catastrophically bad.immigration also doesn't solve birthrate problem as immigrants revert to dazed countries birthrate very scene after arriving
Not only common language, also culture and religion are similar between Latin America and the Iberian peninsula. Spain can be the powerhouse of Europe but only for a lack of contenders
Lol, lets me realistic here. If you come from an African nation, and you could pick Sweden or Finland over Spain. You would pick whichever country pays you better. Its not rocket science why Sweden has a problem and Spain lesser so.
@@erickgomez7775and there’s a lot of Spanish/Iberian diaspora in the Latin countries. Hence why I’m pale and born in the Americas.
I would worry, because Latin America as a whole fell below replacement in 2019 and in certain LA countries demographers use the word "vertiginous" to describe the drop. Uruguay and Argentina dropped from 2 children per woman in 2016 to 1.3 today, in just 8 years (!).
Chile is on the way to drop below 1 in next couple of years based on the latest numbers.
The cost of living is too high to be having children you can’t support.
yes.. import africans... and pay their expensess...
not really, studies show the problem is much more complex
rent is like 70% of your monthly earnings
@@jason4275 Flat owners do not have children as well, so the problem, as I mentioned above, is much more complex and mostly bound to career obstacles for people/families with children.
In the past you had a business as a family, so u used your children as workers in your business and household.
Now a dayz, most people dont work in a family business and children are just a very expensive luxury item, that do nothing to your wealth accumulation, so there is absolutly no reason, for having children anymore.
And, there are much more better luxury items, than kids...
Spain has one ace in the hole: immigration from Latin America. They speak the same language, have the same religion, and a similar culture. They'll integrate into the culture and their kids will identify as Spaniards. That Spanish Empire will pay off for them in the end.
true
Yes, similar culture.. that’s why reggaeton is booming for a few years now and replacing (continental) Spanish music..
@@tudi it is similar music, but the fact that reggaeton is displacing Spanish music is a crime against humanity. Flamenco and it's guitar expressions were a gift from God to the world.
The descendants of those immigrants will adopt Western habits (strong focus on career, consumerism) and their birthrate, as a result, will go under replacement levels like it was for the "original" Spaniards. Mass import of immigrants is not a solution in the long term, the reality is that birthrate is mainly a cultural issue and you can't solve it through politics
@@tudiI'm 40 years old and reggaeton is booming in Spain since I was 13...
So many people engage in lazy thinking and reach for the convenient reason: cost of living, bad economy, blah blah. The fertility rate has been going down for a century. The last year Spain had an above replacement level fertility rate was 1981. Can't blame the high cost of housing for that. For my country it was in 1967, and we were communists back then...This is a cultural phenomenon. People are moving to the cities, having one, two children is the norm, and for many it's none. And those women without kids are some of the wealthiest, with a house/apartment of their own, cars, clothes, they are simply unable or unwilling to find a partner and "settle" down. Don't blame the "economy" and take the easy way out. You want to know the reason for low fertility? Look in the mirror.
I lived 2 years in Spain/Valencia, the city and people are amazing but one thing that caught my eye is the number of old people, too many and too old and there are no children on the street playing football/game
@@AvioftheSandimagine not wanting to create more slaves for the system
which years did you live in spain? is this recent?
@ccc332 my country is the same shitshow as Spain, no difference between the two
@@ccc332 yes I came back to my country a month ago so it covers last 2 years
@@misaka3468 which country?
I definitely want to live in the mountains surrounded by cows
It's an economic problem, most people can't even afford to live alone on a normal salary. How will they afford a family? The middle class in Spain is getting smaller and smaller.
As on all over the world. Middle class is doomed by the greedy capitalism.
Exactly. There might be over a million people living in shared apartments in Spain. Nobody is going to make a family in such conditions
@@sanher20 And most people even at 40 live at home, it's crazy.
This is the same problem in most Western countries - particularly the Anglosphere - sucking up to Boomers because they were a HUGE generation, had easy wealth and concentrated/retained that wealth with minimal to no consequences. In Australia they lowered the retirement age to 55 for them and gave them tax breaks that allowed them to lower their main income tax because they were paying more for a loan on a property they'd bought as "an investment" than they were making from it in rent. The whole cycle was set up to favour them and THEM ONLY. The retirement ages for later generations - 65-67 and probably higher by the time they actually reach preservation age. Tax concessions will ALL go away.
Property skyrockets because that's seen as a safe and easy gambling chip for Boomers to make even more money on - they weren't making money for retirement or comfort, it was about prestige and status of having a bigger portfolio than the next one. I worked with one who owned 13 houses - that's 13 families who could never compete to buy those houses because he wanted to buy them all up for his portfolio. This drove prices up and up and up in perpetuity - to a point that property price falls were hardly within living memory for an entire population.
The other problem with this is the insane amounts of capital tied up in non-productive consumption assets - Boomer retirement investment funds will go away and leave the capital market driving up prices for funds and down availability - that plus the sharp drops in generations following will lead to a collapse of development, technology and innovation. The only real way to counter this is to deliberately crash property - the losers will be those stuck with large portfolios, those who lose on their family home will lose if they go to move but they will also have a lower cost of buying elsewhere. Failure to do this will lead - as it already has - to entire generations having zero stake in the society. Good luck getting THEM to go fight in the trenches of the 3rd world war (which many argue has already begun).
Sorry but the problem is eternal generational favouritism - and this favouritism will have dissolved by the time Gen-X reach preservation age, let alone the Millennials or Gen-Z/Alpha. There's no way to avoid this - governments will gradually see the shift in power changing, we MIGHT finally see that in places like Canada soon for instance - failure to do it will leave them in civilisational collapse states like Russia was/is.
"This is the same problem in most Western countries - particularly the Anglosphere" - false. The Anglosphere has it better, much better than Spain, or Italy, or Japan and South Korea. And how do you fit the abysmal birth rate of China into your theory? You can't.
@@BorisBoris-sl1sf you don't seem to know much about that Anglosphere then do you - this is a massive issue throughout all of those countries, I am a citizen of two of them and I am currently in one of them experiencing all of these problems. China is an entirely different collapse in motion resulting from their idiotic one child policy. This is seeing them heading for a societal collapse that will fracture the continuity of their very civilisation - and it's happened before but the world has never seen a collapse of population on that scale before, even The Black Death in Europe didn't see that scale of decline that quickly. You mentioned Spain and other countries, I have no focus on those but I have heard they have experienced the boomer takeover in an awful lot of them.
@@davocc2405 You have no idea what the middle-class 'boomers' are going through. They are being asset-stripped to death. In 2008, 1/3 lost most of their pensions due to the crisis and inflation has erased gains away despite asset price increases (which mean nothing if you can't turn it into money). Then we have the rest... the speed of wealth decline from the early 2000'a to now in this group has been huge. Governments want to rob the goose that laid the golden egg - the most educated generation in history (parents of the worst and least educated generation in history - the irony!). The result - everyone is poorer. China is not just collapsing due to the one-child policy (this merely speeded it up), they are crashing due to authoritarianism and Xi's rule. China could have lasted another 10 years or so. Covid and subsequent absurd policies fast-forwarded what's happening. Stock markets will not longer provide pensions and viable returns on average. There isn't the young people not disposable income. The way to make money now is in trades - infrastructure maintenance will be future-proofed as business. Scarcity of qualified people.
Urbanization destroys birthrates. You could just give young men a house but noone wants to help men.
Used to be a man could show up in America and be given 200 acres of land for free and he could just build whatever house he wanted. Now you are prevented from building your own house by building codes and zoning laws and ain't nobody giving you nothing free.
Urbanization actually maintained a replacement rate birthrates. Women had two, even three kids.
@@insomniacresurrected1000 as opposed to the 6 on farms
It's the opposite, urbanization increases the supply of housing lowering it's price, which allows people to find a place to live and to make a family. Nobody wants to make a family if you can't even find a place to live in
@@sanher20 Construction of new homes increases the availability of housing. Rapidly growing cities normally have a shortage of housing, slums, and communal flats.
Using housing as investments is a big part of the problem
It is the biggest one. Western nations are following pakistan method into economic stagnation for young middle class
Don’t forget regulations and taxes , I think they’re are doing much more harm than any speculation. On time of my grandfather he just have to buy a peace of land and could build a house, no permits no taxes no need to hire professionals . I built my house 5 years ago and almost 70% of the cost was just to comply with regulations, taxes, paper work, inspections . If we could go back in time with taxes and regulations properties would be affordable to anyone again.
Plenty of cheap housing in Spain.
It's europe's most dramatic housing crisis. 60% of people under 35 live with their parents because they can't afford leaving their house even with a job. The massive amount of turists we receive turn the housing market extremely competitive. It's the same for Japan.
I'm from one of those dying rural cities in the middle of spain. The video is extremely accurate. The town Is like a big retirement home. The big cities keep growing because everyone from the rural has fed them. But once there is no one, they will stop growing too. It's a matter of time. Immigration will change the culture too.
You’re not alone. Spain is the subject of this video but all of Europe at the same stage.
Well, I am a foreigner now living in the costa brava for a year. My father in law lives near Teruel, so I’ve seen it too.
That said; the elderly here are not living on generous pensions. This is 100% not the case. And the Spanish government has no money to pay for it either.
There is only one way this situation improves: the housing market needs to implode. It is the poison in the system. It is what is distorting the reality from what it is supposed to be: working adults are supposed to be worth their weight in gold. Not houses. A house, should be lucky to have a tennant.
Too many people try to create an artificial scarcity that suffocates the real scarce commodity of productive labor. You get problems.
If you stop your brain from getting enough oxygen, it doesn’t function either.
But no. Rather than letting a free market be a free market. We try to put as many economic immigrants as possible into as many vacant houses as we can. This is not a Spain problem. It is a western problem. A China problem.
This is not sustainable.
It made me laugh and cry, when one of the local radio stations had a 30 year old woman come on and explain; “having a dog, was just as, if not better, than having kids!”
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@@ZeeBraam couldn't be explained better. I'm.actually from Soria which is pretty much the same as Teruel. But the same could be said of the rest of the provinces that aren't on the coast. I remember my geography teacher used to explain it as if Spain was a demographic doughnut. All the people lives on the coast and the hole in the middle. Which is Madrid.
Don't worry mate, when your big cities get so big they're not pleasant for many to live in, too expensive for people to live in, some people will just want to get out into clean air and peace and quiet. We've seen this trend for over a century in London which is why London is so multicultural, as successive groups leave for the country others must be brought in to keep the megacity ticking over. We even let people from up north move into London with their weird accents and black pudding, not enough people from abroad to fill all the jobs.
The death of rural living and towns is nothing new and was predicted long ago.. well before the depopulation hysteria became popular. People move where the jobs and excitement and their peers are. One doesn’t need fourteen children to help out on the farm when there are machines these days. People day trip to rural areas from the cities. Rural areas if they want to survive, need to appeal to city folk who want short trips to buy artisan products or go to a winery and maybe stay overnight.
There is simply no solution.
I have two young kids and I worry about their future. My wife and myself are professionals, currently moving house which is extremely expensive. It occurs to us that while we are both better educated than our parents before us, we earn comparatively less, and housing, cars, fuel, food etc is all more expensive. We are poorer than our previous generation and this is before significant demographic collapse. I want another child but my wife is adamant we can’t afford another.
How much worse off will my daughter and son be than us, if we are already far behind our own parents at comparable ages?
Spain shafts young people in employment too. For example, in public sector jobs, older workers have cushy benefits and pensions. Younger workers in the same job are often on temporary contracts. Furthermore, Germany is facing similar demographics and has in the past bankrolled poorer EU nations. This will not continue into the future. The money is running out across EU.
Well... my wife and I are doing our part. We moved to her rural hometown and had 3 kids; a large family by modern standards...
Sorry, but to claim that the low fertility rate is connected to high youth consumption is very far from reality. Young people establish families when they acquire a home. When wages go down, and housing prices go up, people establish families later, which has run-off effect on family size.
Have you considered how many people will be willing to change their lifestyle to have children? Like how they have to curb their spending to save for baby things like clothes and food that they have to keep replacing as the children grow up.
@@kailee2166 There is something to it... Perhaps one gender (women) need to be taxed based on not having kids...
@@looseycanon Do that and you will have revolt, of being forced to spend either money on taxes or childcare, who is willingly going to do that?
@@kailee2166 he who want's to save mankind maybe? :D
No it's got nothing to do with wages or house prices. First off, poor people have more children, not less. And no, it's not just free labour as this also holds in cities as well as in countries with mandatory state provisioned schooling. Secondly, cash incentives and other public policies to reduce costs have had negligible impact on birth rates. Thirdly, there are groups that have large families still even at the same income and expense levels. One is highly religious communities - they tend to have more kids than their peers in similar economic situations. Fourthly, the ultra-rich also have few kids.
Young people be like, screw them old people with jacked up rents,
Why is men's age never mentioned? Yes 60 year olds can technically have children, but the older the father, the higher the chance of miscarriage, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, ADHD, autism, lower weight at birth, premature birth, gestational diabetes for pregnant women, congenital diseases, childhood leukemia, among other issues
Also young ladies don’t like old guys.
@@SC-sh6ux *if they are broke
Not a problem. Lots of people want to move to Spain
People go to cities for jobs, not for recreation. Cities are hell, and nobody wants to have children in hell.
exactly
You didnt mention that in urban areas the birthrate is much higher than rural areas in spain, there are too many old people, so how do young people who move there find someone?
Divorce risk is also a significant factor for men avoiding having children. This needs to be resolved
Both risks can be mitigated by choosing better partners. Basically ask important questions and get ready to compromise after marriage.
@@A-man3607-p7onow the question is why isn’t that happening ?
@@sbk2207 Uhu, so where do the 30% of paternity tests coming in back negative figures in this?
@@crabLThoney it is 3% for the overall population. When men check their paternity they either are paranoid 😂😂😂 - 70 % are or have reason to suspect there is a problem. But for all the couples it is 3%.
@@zumurudlilitanother option is to outlaw paternity tests, like in France.
Importing Muslim from Middle East was worst idea for Europe
It’s was the best idea since the start of Erope civilization. Iron working was introduced to Erope in the late 11th century BC, from the Caucasus, and slowly spread northwards and westwards over the succeeding 500 years. The wheel was invented in the 4th millennium BC in Lower Mesopotamia(modern-day Iraq). The oldest evidence of wheels in India, for example, dates from 4,500 years ago. The wheel did not reach Europe until 3,000 years ago. In the Old World, one of the last peoples to adopt the wheel were the Britons just 2,500 years ago. Europe don’t even numerals of their own, let alone have an alphabet of their own. European alphabets derive from the Roman/Greek alphabet, even then the Latin alphabet derives Phoenician/Egyptian alphabets. Europeans were hunter gathers until Middle Easterners introduced farming.... Researchers already knew that agriculture in Europe appeared in modern-day Turkey around 8,500 years ago, spreading to France by about 7,800 years ago and then to Britain, Ireland and Northern Erope approximately 6,000 years ago.
Fats forward, Golden Age Middle East then took Erope out of the Dark Ages and into the Renaissance/Scientific Revolution era. I could go on.
Correct. Europeans had a wealth of South American middle class youth in countries such as Brazil, Argentina, Chile etc to draw from. They could have established migration programmes in those countries already in the late 70's and early 80's to make emigration easy and millions and millions of youngsters and families might have filled European countries with ambitious, hard working people and with the added plus they would have come from westernized societies with more or less similar religious and cultural backgrounds ( take the case of those countries mentioned above, heavily influenced by European immigration in the 19th century). Spain, Portugal and Italy did take timid steps towards that goal by providing passports to their descendants. But not enough. All of Europe should have opened widely to millions of South Americans who could have saved their societies without social and cultural clashes.
Long live the mighty Islam.
@@Egr-et6ar No, it didn't.
Children are for the poor, or affluent with nannies.
At least that will solve the housing problem.....
It is also a matter of affording a family, even on two full-time incomes. Spain already has the "empty doughnut", basically the coasts and Madrid are populated but the area inbetween in nearly vacant.
The Med coast is overpopulated though
@@geocam2 Madrid ? Valladolid? Toledo ? Guadalajara? Salamanca? Zaragoza? Burgos ? All Big cities in the center of the country!
Loads of young people from Spain and Portugal moved here to Leeds because there aren't any job opportunities back home
cant afford kids anywhere.
I moved to the Andalucían mountains of Spain. I am surrounded by mountains, birds and goats! Wild boar, foxes and deer too. I bought a beautiful house for 42K. No renovations needed. It beats big city life 100%. Get out of the big cities if you can. Life is better in rural Spain.
That's not enough. Have at least 2+ children if you are young.
Give some contribution for the existence of your country.
Why would one worry about demographic. In late sixties there were 3,5 billion people on Earth. It was just fine. It’s a long way to go back to that number.
It's not the same, because 3,5 billion with a "normal" age distribution, i.e., children, young people, middle aged, and a few old people is much better than a population of old people and few children. Think harder. Young people are going extinct.
Sure but everything will stop working as we know it....
@@dcgallin realestate could get more afordable
@@BobanMisevic even free but what's the point? No kids no future..in the 60 there were a lot of children, hence the name baby boomers ....
@@BobanMisevic it will be free, and without young people there will be no infrastructure.
That's the whole.point of the video.
Ppl are ignoring the fact that you almost need to live in the city and or have access to the city to earn a good amount of money.
You also spend most of that money living in a city.
They chose hardcore feminism........this is the outcome ppl shouldn't be surprised
It is bizarre isn't it. Spending a life of drudgery and boredom washing clothes and hoovering, hoping you picked a decent man that would give you a decent amount of housekeeping. Just weird a woman wouldn't want to go back to those halcyon days.
You actually think it’s because of women’s desire for equality and autonomy … and not because of an economically oppressive system that makes affordable living non-viable for young people, let alone trying to support dependents? Congratulations, you’ve been successfully brainwashed by the elites!
@hilarygibson3150 yeah because that's how all our grandmother's lived isn't it men and women supported each other. Modern western women are so angry
@@geoffbarber3501 No, you're right that's not how ALL grandmothers lived but 99% lived that way and No, men and women did not support each other. Men took while women gave. That is still the model today, albeit only miniscule-ly better
It is the opposite the countries with the strongest patriarchy shrinking most.
The fact that this video (and similar ones) have so few views for its quality and importance, shows how unaware and therefore unprepared people are.
It's the same in the Netherlands don't come here we don't have the Space
😂😂😂😂
Sea levels are the big problem for the Netherlands future
Gotta be honest. Out of all the European countries I want to visit. The Netherlands didnt even cross my mind. It's more of an attraction for countries without legal cannabis. Enjoy the loud brits lol. I'd prefer Portugal, France, Italy etc. Did you know Lisbon was built by Carthage and is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world. 500ish years older than Rome itself. The Netherlands kinda looks like Massachusetts/Cape cod without the beaches. -Edit: Ok ya'll do have beaches but your hot days are 70f.-
But you have space for moroccans😢
You should try south east England mate. The Netherlands issue is to do with housing, for centuries you guys didn't build enough housing because half your population was at sea leaving you short of stocks now because you never needed them in the past. The reason we have so much old stuff is because (apart from the Germans being appallingly bad at war) we've never been able to afford to be able to knock it down to replace it.
if young people stop paying taxes then the seniors will have to pay for theirs own vacations
The other thing to talk about is young people leaving, especially the more educated and skilled who have the easiest time leaving and the most rewards to leave. I had a friend, who is a mechanical engineer move with his wife to Thailand and get a remote job and they love it.
Europe is doomed.
true, hardly any european citizen realize this
@@hrisoflinoski4803 Most Europeans realize this. But they are old anyway and don't care what happens in 30 years or so.
All western countries are doomed, Australia, USA, United Kingdom
Oh yes, It is because we lost a world war VS asia and america
Am I familiar with the aging population problem of my country? Yes, I am, but I'm also familiar with the irrefutable fact that the richest are not paying taxes. I'm also familiar with the fact that housing prices have at least tripled in the last 40 years. In 1984, a worker could buy a home in Barcelona or Madrid with only one salary and pay off the mortgage in 10-15 years. With current wages, paying off a mortgage takes some 30, 40 or even 50 years. I'm also familiar with the extremely precarious jobs people can get if they don't have any contacts, such as myself. I'm also familiar with the labour law reformation of 2011 that condemned millions of Spaniards to poverty. I'm a 39 year old Spaniard with poor health who lives on benefits and below the poverty line.
Sure bring in more immigrants that certainly will solve the housing price issue.... 😂😂
@@MarketsDriveTheWorld I never said that immigration from third world countries was beneficial to this or any developed country; I'm critical of it. But I'm even more critical of the gap between the rich and the poor. The labour law reformation of 2011 must be abolished and the rich must pay taxes. Then we will see what we do with toxic immigration (most South Americans, most Africans and most Asians). It's a question of priorities.
@@CollapsingRealities Why do you reduce latin americans to ¨south americans¨. As a Puerto Rican living in Spain as a cross-border transactions lawyer working in Spain, I wonder if you get any geography classes at all during, at least, high school. Central America is a region of North America, just as the Antilles. We are not sudamericanos.
@@Dbbrainer The only Latin America is French Canada. We, the Latins, are the people of Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Romania and Moldova. Central Americans (including most of the Caribbean) and South Americans are not Latins; they created their own culture heavily influenced by Spain and Portugal. Speaking Spanish or Portuguese and being Christian doesn't make a person Latin. Fully Latin people (racially and culturally) are a minority in Central America and South America.
Saying that a Central American or a South American is a Latin is like saying that a Cherokee is an Anglo Saxon.
@MarketsDriveTheWorld technically 3rd world immigration pushes prices down since it make the cities more dangerous
Being child free is great when you're young because they get in the way of fun. The problem is that fun is no longer fun when you're older. You'll find that in middle age you won't want to go to bars and clubs and deal with the drunks and bad behavior. You won't want to travel all the time. You'll want to stay in your comfortable home where everything is the way you like it. You won't want to go to concerts and festivals because music will change and your body won't be able to handle all the standing. You get sore and tired faster.
You'll realize that you will have no support network when you get older because your parents will be dead. When you die your spouse will be left alone. No one really cares about you in this life except for family.
I drank the kool aid and now I regret it because in my fifties I'm no longer interested in life being nothing but entertainment and leisure. I've realized that the only thing that really matters is love. Jobs don't matter. Pleasure doesn't matter.
On the other hand I don't worry about the future. The world only has to hold it together until my wife and I are gone. This whole life thing seems to be rigged against humanity so I'm not terribly enthusiastic about it.
At least you have a wife, I am 35 and single. On the bright side I understood that pleasure just numbing my senses for a short time and it isn't really fulfilling, pleasure and happiness are very different things, happiness can last for weeks or even years, pleasure lasts at most a few hours, then you need to give your dopamine receptors a break. You can also experience pleasure but be extremely lonely and even suicidal (drugs etc.) You cannot be happy and suicidal.
I'm part of the baby boom in my country that happened in the decade ending in 1985. We're set to nearly bankrupt the social welfare system when we start hitting it up for our benefits,
The few politicians who are worried about this get scoffed at by the public. Relying on immigration isn't going to help us and there are already local districts where the entire school population is less 100 kids or you don't hear or see kids out and about because there aren't any.
I can only imagine how the rural areas here will look like in the upcoming decades when there aren't enough people to make building out infrastructure economically viable.
Mind you... in the past, families relied on one income to buy a house, settle down, get company pensions, etc... I'm guessing many couples would be happy to have children sooner, but if they cannot afford a home or find well-paying work, then how can they bring up a family? This is an issue in most of the western world.
The real reasons are high unemployment rate, therefore people have more chance in a city. Also non existing family support benefits
It goes both ways. The average Nigerian has 8 children. But having a lot of children create a hardship for families and government. There's simply not enough jobs to employ all these new people coming into the world. So this forces people to leave their homeland. It also leads to a low lifespan. So you have a country of a lot of young unskilled workers. And the fewer older brains who can fix the situation.
Very biased and misinforming content. Spaniards don't have children because of the low wages! Not because they want to go partying. And the housing market is too expensive because of uncontrolled tourism.
No, that's just a popular excuse. First off, poor people have more children, not less. And no, it's not just free labour as this also holds in cities as well as in countries with mandatory state provisioned schooling. Secondly, cash incentives and other public policies to reduce costs have had negligible impact on birth rates. Thirdly, there are groups that have large families still even at the same income and expense levels. One is highly religious communities - they tend to have more kids than their peers in similar economic situations. Fourthly, the ultra-rich also have few kids.
An interesting point for you to ponder might be to ask some of your middle or upper class friends who say they'd like to have children just how many kids they'd like to have. This is just the subset of people who want kids, so it's already skewed. Still, you'll mostly hear 1, 2 or in a few cases 3 kids (unless they're highly religious or something). Now ask your great grandparents how large families used to be in the old days. You'll hear numbers like 5 - 12 or even more. Mine had 10 siblings! Yet almost no one wants such large families anymore even if money was not a factor. And keep in mind that the replacement level birth rate is 2.1, so fewer people choosing to have 1-2 kids is already below replacement. And you can see this in the ultra rich - money isn't a problem there, but they still usually have only small families.
This is so true! Sick of the analysis being oh young people are just selfish. How was I supposed to consider children at 28 when I had to live with 4 roommates and a temporary work contract until I was 32? Even now I have just one kid because I can’t afford an apartment with more than 1 bedroom. The collapse of fertility rates below replacement rate follows direclty the collapse in living standards. Let’s not kid ourselves… sure, people don’t want 5 or 6 kids like in our grandparents generation but most people would have a solid two if the financial conditions of millennials were not so desperate.
@@sjg9887 That doesn't explain the poor or even the rich, nor the religious, all of whom buck that reasoning. It also doesn't explain why public programs to incentivize births have failed to make a dent in it. If you think you're desperate, try being a (non-us) boomer coming out of a world war that's destroyed their world. Evidently that didn't stop them from having kids. If you think we'll have more kids if only money wasn't an issue, tell that to the rich. Also tell the orthodox that they're not behaving in line with how your economics says they should. And so on. Your idea just doesn't fit the facts.
@@sjg9887 That doesn't explain the poor or even the rich, nor the religious, all of whom buck that reasoning. It also doesn't explain why public programs to incentivize births have failed to make a dent in it. If you think you're desperate, try being a (non-us) boomer coming out of the 1940s that's just seen, you know. Evidently that didn't stop them from having kids. If you think we'll have more kids if only money wasn't an issue, tell that to the rich. Also tell the orthodox that they're not behaving in line with how your economics says they should. Your idea just doesn't fit the facts.
Hah People want to enjoy their twenties I don’t blame them, for anyone think back to when you were in your twenties
Compared to Asia, esp Korea, Spain has twice the birthrate.
You’re comparing caca to poo
Try visiting the Philippines, it's packed with not only children but old people. It's got the worst of both worlds.
@@kalliste23lmaooo why would you say that it is not literally a problem and the elderly population of the Philippines is not that big compared to youth population were it is literally half of the whole population, it is literally overpopulated. It's one of the countries who contributed the most on world population growth (and sorry for my english)
@@joyanimation5579 that's what I'm saying. The Philippines is extremely over-populated and it barely survives thanks to massive food imports (the Philippines is the world's largest importer of rice in spite of its own fairly substantial production) and exporting a large chunk of its population. Not only are there enormous numbers of very young children there are very large numbers of old people. I live there I know.
It's because working people are working themselves to the ground, getting ripped off on taxes given to mass immigration with 7 kids on average while locals are at best freezing their eggs hoping for the future not realising it will be so demographically dangerous the kids will need a militia to insure they even grow up and militia and farming will be the only career choices.
Young people don't vote enough.
Spain has an enormous fountain of youth to tap on!! Latin America, the colonial history ( which includes same or similar culture, religion, social stigmas) even certain love and respect for old mother Spain that could be use to help restore the declining number, but they must change certain things ( politically speaking) they need to boost helping programs so young citizens and immigrants are compelled to come to Spain!! For example immigration ( right now is more easy for a Muslim citizen to be allowed in Spain than a a 3rd generation ( Spanish descendants) too much politics and bureaucracy.
Well I wanna go to the mountains be surrounded by cows 😜.
Baaa
Pigs are more likely in Spain. And you can do it on the cheap in Spain. Caveats are, you have the right passport, can work remotely, drive and have at least 50-60k euro to buy a house [long term rentals are possible but hard to find]. Speaking the language is a bonus but not strictly necessary.
You will be surrounded by veiled women.
Lol, I moved to the Andalucían mountains of Spain. I am surrounded by mountains, birds and goats! Wild boar, foxes and deer too. I bought a beautiful house for 42K. No renovations needed. It beats big city life 100%. Get out of the big cities if you can.
Of course it is, have you seen the ridiculous prices of housing here in Spain? There are literally hundreds of thousands of people living on shared flats, how is anyone going to want to make a family if you don't even have a place to live in? There's no more space for construction, everything has been filled up already and everything is occupied, this is one of the clearest examples of overpopulation and bad housing planning
People dont want to walk or bike to a job.
The want tech gadgets,internet,phones, data, they enjoy lisure, travels , movies,restaurants,nice clothes(like in american movies) (we doubeled , if not tripeld expectations)
They dont want to raise kids in bad conditions.
Simply they dont want to survive they want to live.
Except we dont have american salaries.(100,000$ a year) we have 26136€ average.
So after we pay for nice life , we are left with one or none for kids.
Heavy focus on financing seniors. Example: in the US, Social Security payments indexed for inflation, parents' income is not. Seniors vote, children do not.
No matter what happens, I will not get married and will not have children.
I am 49, single and childfree. Best choice of my life.
Better go out dancing every evening than quaralleling with nagging kids
@@unn5443 my mother was miserable because of our misfortunes. We did not make her happy. Unfortunately she was allergic to cats and did not like dogs.
@@14margott rip mom
Same here, childfree for life!🎉🎉🎉
As a young spaniard, I'm preparing my one way flight to Canada.
Gee, I can guarantee that (numerically speaking) houses in 30 countries I can rattle off haven't doubled in price, have done so at a rate anywhere between 4.5, to 8 times. And for the really rich areas this is 10+.
When I first started working in 1970, at the Home bush meat works every one of the thirty guys aged between 30-60 either owned a house or had about a 50% equity in a property. And there were a few that either owned another property or were well on the way to owning another property.
But in every case the people in question were employed in low skilled occupations in a meat works. In the period between 1965, until inflation took off (in all Western societies) in 1973 an adult worker, putting in 40 hours per week here in Australia, took home between $45, and a MAXIMUM of $60pw. And a three bedroom property on a quarter acre block in the suburban spreads of all Australia's capital cities was in 1972, was about $12k: or about 4.5 times the accrued take home pay of the clear majority of workers.
As for petrol, in 1974, in the middle of the OPEC oil crisis it was (as I recall) 80 cents a gallon.
The first points you raise about the youth are good (having fun, etc). Most people discussing this topic absolve the youth of any hand in the matter
So this is why I am reading so much about replacement populations immigrating to European countries. The Spanish, and people in the West in general, need to have more children. But sheesh is it difficult to do with government policies seemingly destroying that possibility.
It seems like leftist works against us.... Well migrants vote for them....
It doesn’t seem to be policy related. Denmark had a big well funded campaign to try and increase its birth rates but it had only a small uptick. Iran even has this problem and it’s a religious theocracy. The problem is really entrenched.
This isn't about govt. policy. First off, poor people have more children, not less. And no, it's not just free labour as this also holds in cities as well as in countries with mandatory state provisioned schooling. Secondly, cash incentives and other public policies to reduce costs have had negligible impact on birth rates. Thirdly, there are groups that have large families still even at the same income and expense levels. One is highly religious communities - they tend to have more kids than their peers in similar economic situations. Fourthly, the ultra-rich also have few kids.
An interesting point for you to ponder might be to ask some of your middle or upper class friends who say they'd like to have children just how many kids they'd like to have. This is just the subset of people who want kids, so it's already skewed. Still, you'll mostly hear 1, 2 or in a few cases 3 kids (unless they're highly religious or something). Now ask your great grandparents how large families used to be in the old days. You'll hear numbers like 5 - 12 or even more. Mine had 10 siblings! Yet almost no one wants such large families anymore even if money was not a factor. And keep in mind that the replacement level birth rate is 2.1, so fewer people choosing to have 1-2 kids is already below replacement. And you can see this in the ultra rich - money isn't a problem there, but they still usually have only small families.
What the video didn't acknowledge is that a lot of young people are leaving Spain do go find work and better opportunities in other EU countries with better economies.
Spain has an unlimited basket of Catholic Spanish speakers from its former empire
This was a very good video on a very important issue which is not spoken enough about.
To anyone who thinks low birth rates are a problem. Spain has a 12% unemployment rate. India has a youth unemployment rate of 44%.
We already have a huge surplus of people on this planet. We have only just begun mechanizing our farm work and automation.
Humanity will be better off as a small and more productive species than ever before.
The unemployed people could be entrepreneurs, but don't want to be.
@@SimonTmte this is VisualEconomik. The point this video is attempting to make is regarding economics.
Its COST! People cant afford to have them.
Its as bad in scotland, the reason they dont show is the figures are absorbed into those of the UK as a whole.
Scotland is in dire straights with no return as almost 1 million of them live in England.
Britain has very high fully LEGAL (not boats) migration from the commonwealth tho! It’s just that almost all of commonwealth folk just pick England and Wales over Scotland. At this rate rest of UK’s population will keep going up while Scotland plateaus or drops.
- Those in power create difficulties so that people don't have children!!!
, but they give help to foreigners who come to the country... it's crazy ! no sense !
We are not disappearing, we live in the Americas, if they want recognize us all the descendants of Spaniards in the Americas, we could repopulate Spain again.
@@cordfortina9073 because they want be political correct, recognizing Irish-Argentinians, or Spaniard-Mexicans as Europeans 150 years after their families immigrated to the Americas, could sound racist to the leftist, but we are children of Europe, if the Jews recognize Israel as their home after 2000 years, why cańt we do the same thing.
High cost of living forces people to mind their own business.
Im here walking the camino from australia .. and im really noticing aging poulation.,
Also there is a massive proportion of young Spaniards working ( and paying taxes ) in Northern Europe.
Its called behavioural sink and it was proved in Universe 25 with mice.
Excellent news!
The wolves are angry because the sheep are not reproducing
who are the solves and who are the sheape??
Or the sheep are too stupid to understand the consequences of what's happening to the flock while the wolves are picking off the more thinly spread and separated prey.
@@anonymousperson1771 Thinly separated or thick flock never made a difference and stopped a wolf's appetite. Because sheep cannot fight nomatter what their numbers might be.
Leisure activities are highly discresionary whereas child rearing expenses are very obligatory so stop making moral judgements.
Spain has a simple solution, invest in universities and increase university intake. Bring in highly qualified students from Latin America. Lations speak same langauge and have closer clutural ties to Spanish.
They already do that and they aren’t Spanish.
@@santostv. Spain attracts mostly unskilled Latinos.. Spain universities are very pooor none in top 100 in world rankings
@@karthikarvindcs My country attracts unskilled palop’s and south Asians, top 100 universities don’t mean much never heard Western Europe complaining about our college graduates meanwhile in the list appears college’s from South America.
Economies like ours reliant on tourism snd cheap products although Spain industrial based is bigger will never attract high skilled migrants until our government become wiling to have long term plans even if it means opposite parties taking credit for it.
@@karthikarvindcs Becoming like the uk and Australian for example taking that foreigner student money, idk about spain but my country pay for some poorer Palop’s countries education with deals we have with their countries also most are poor af so wouldn’t change much, also they aren’t dumb if they are educated they would take a plane to Switzerland,Benelux ect just like our college grads do
Very valuable video. Thanks for all the excellent information on this subject!
I notcied in the Spain football team, most of the players only have 1 sibling (ie 2 children families)
The muslim ninjas have 3+
@@banzaaiiiii is that a bad thing?
@@banzaaiiiiicry harder INFIDELS
@@adamelghalmi9771 Depends, if you are trying to transform west into islamic state in the future. Imagine islamic culture everywhere, i rather prefer european culture of each country flourish for more "diverse culture" than just the same all everywhere
@@nitr0gen949 ignoring the broken English, i doubt that a group of people from a certain religion that have a slightly higher birthrate than other religious groups is going to turn any country into an "Islamic state in the future" as you put it, but if you believe that to be the case, who am i to tell you that you are wrong and that isn't how demographics works at all.
All non melinated nations are going thru this. Places like africa are fine
same thing is happening there. but their falling fertility rates are still well above replacement rate, so they will be facing this issue the last
Raising children mainly benefit the state, not individuals. More workers, consumers, taxpayers, soldiers, pension contributors.
Exactly.
Dumbest comment in the world. Why should we pay taxes if not to have good infrastructures, education, healthcare, military and pensions? We are the ultimate receiver of those "pension contributions".
Cannon fodder.
There's plenty of cheap housing in Spain but the young don't want to live there because it doesn't fit the Instagram party lifestyle.
What are the inheritance tax laws in Spain? If generous, then, although it creates other inflationary problems, the money will ultimately trickle down. If stringent, then younger people are shafted, holding a candle lit on both ends.
poorer countries have more children, so its not a money problem. Dont avoid the issue.
@@griefwnl7641 is Spain a poor country?
By stopping overspending by governments and loose money printing you could slow down inflation. The middle class has lost 90% of its buying power since the 1960s. Young couples used to be able to buy a house with just the husband working. Same for a car. Same for graoceries.
My wife and I went to Spain the last winter, in March 2024.
We were 4 weeks there, in Madrid (7 nights), Granada (2), Málaga (2), Sevilla (3), Valencia (3), Barcelona (6) and Bilbao (4).
We did not realize the problem that this video talks about, maybe because we were only in urban areas. By the way, what a nice country, what beautiful cities!!
Same problem as many other countries, but Spain receives a lot of positive immigration, (also some bad, as all countries) and population is rising.
As a Spaniard, I’m fully in line with your comments.
I have an unpopular answer to Spain's pains--pun fully intentional:
1) Encourage immigration from former Spanish colonies. A good number are mostly Spanish anyways, so its like taking in a fellow Spaniard but with some native blood.
2) No pensions for individuals who did not have/parent at least 2 children. If you want to show some compassion, have a pension tier. 0 kids = some pension. 1 kid = more penion. 2 kids = full pension. 3+ kids = full pension plus you can write off all taxes paid (sales, inheritance, business, ect.). Just an idea.
This is first video on this subject that I’ve seen elude to container ships/supply chains disappearing if this population collapse trend isn’t reversed immediately, although it’s something I’ve been thinking about for a while.
I don’t think people have any concept of how dire the future looks if we don’t start having more babies, or how unequal life will become in our never-ending strive for inequality.. Climate change is utterly irrelevant in comparison.
In 2022 Spain births was 329,551 Spain Deaths was 464,417 and Spain Net Migration was 727,005. Spain's population is not disappearing.
He meant people with spanish genes are declining. Only alarming if you are a spaniard. Spanish nationals are perhaps not declining. But same thing can happen to 2nd generation of immigrants after they have assimilated.
The entire population may not be going down yet but those who are actually Spaniard is going down. And that net migration numbers are not sustainable in the long run since all of the countries that these immigrants are from a suffering the same situation just at a different stage.
@@A-man3607-p7oMuslims born in Spain immediately have no children 😂After assimilating into the Spanish population
A lot of the people moving in are also retirees. In other words, not going to have children.
They talked about immigration in the video. And why it just delays the inevitable by one generation, nothing more. They're also a net negative return in the long run.
One of the Spanish guys I know said taxes are high in Spain....