Rich people are so clueless on what avg person is going through. If you can't afford basic housing, food, health insurance, etc, how the hell can you have a baby?
Turns out that giving women a disposable income and birth control means that they would rather party than having families and thus society will collapse.
It's the aging population. The politicians continue to pass laws that cater exclusively to the elderly. The elderly are the largest voting block so they always win. Also the cultural mentality is "I had to suffer so the younger generation can suffer to". This is why no laws are passed granting better pay, child subsidies, tax credits, etc.. it all goes to the elderly. There's many other reasons but the politicians only cater to the old. Joe is such a moron saying video games. He knows nothing of the world. 😂
i think it's every civilize country on earth. Multinational trillion dollar corporations have overtaken the single-family home market, and there's so few homes available that they can just hold a small percentage of the market and sell them house by house while values go up with inflation.
I've worked with Japanese engineers, they come here from corporate, for a set term of 5-7 years, all expenses paid, housing, utilities, food, live in company owned houses, drive company cars, save their ENTIRE salary, and go home wealthy and semi retired.
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@@KayCee-xy4up Never watched Clannad after story? That's a good one, best father-in-law ever! (But yes, amount of high schoolers in manga and anime in their own apartment is kind of high!)
It's not just gyms, it's most places. I know because I've travelled around the country it depends on the city. Nagoya and Osaka are fine but Tokyo its still taboo. Remote places, tattoos are taboo.
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Precisely, the work-life balance is terrible in Japan. There is a culture of men and women being overworked as a respect to your employer. How do you raise a child in that environment?
What does it tell? Don’t you think tech addiction has something to do with it? I know you could also say lack of space, few cars, small houses, low marriage rates, long working hours, few farms, low religiosity, etc.
@@derek4412It’s more than that. The problem is deeper, people feel like they’re is no point to what they’re doing. This is a global issue. Many people all over the world are stuck in 30 year or even longer mortgages that they’re probably never going to pay off. Then they get married and have kids because it’s like what else are you going to do? They think it will cure their existential crisis, but it doesn’t. And then on top of that you have societal expectations, boxes that society says you need to live in. Then many of them realize they’re stuck in a job where they’re never going to advance. By the time they do advance to have any kind of power or influence, they’re already old. Some people just fill the time up with video games others with just constantly working and working, to make their lives feel like they have purpose. It’s like humanity is just going in a circle, just keeps repeating itself over and over. Technology just keeps advancing and people fade out, die and then new people come in and the circle just keeps going round and round. Like a never ending loop.
When I was with the US Navy in Japan they actually told us during our initial briefing not to stop and help Japanese people who have accidents or medical crises. The way they explained it was that Japan does not have good Samaritan laws and that you have no legal protection if you try to provide first aid to someone. In fact, if you make some kind of mistake and make the situation worse, you can actually be prosecuted. They told us to mind our own business and leave it to the medical professionals. Same thing for getting involved in someone else's dispute. If you see someone getting beat down or abused, call the cops but otherwise mind your own business. It seems strange, but Japan is a different culture. after all, and has different standards.
My paramedic cousin who works in Mexicali said never ever stop to help anyone, even if you witnessed them get ran over because if they die on your hands you will take some fault. Wild.
I use to work 16 hours a day never hung out with my kids. Bought my house got laid off found a part time job that pays my mortgage now chill with my kids all the time.
@@geraldjuvejr.6171 again; you aren't "living." You are existing. Living implies certain things. Existing is just that. Either way let's agree to agree and disagree on the semantics.
It's central banking destroying the money. Everyone is working harder and harder, longer and longer for currencies that are being devalued. So now everything is expensive, no feeling of security and a long term future and you have to spend all your time at work.
Not sure why everyone keys on Japan, South Korea actually has an even lower birthrate, and a number of other countries in East Asia and Europe have similar birthrates. This is not just a "Japan" thing, this is a thing in developed, modern societies.
@@johnpark7972 You asked why everyone focuses on Japan and not Korea. It’s because U.S. has a large presence in Japan. Some people say the U.S. is the de facto owner of Japan since U.S. defeated them in Pearl Harbor.
Yea, it's a problem in a lot of wealthier countries including Italy, Spain, Japan, South Korea, and China. The US is also experiencing a decline. People can't afford to raise families with stagnant wages and high costs of living.
Clearly it is designed by tech addiction, just think about how much do you spend time "having fun" using tech, your brain is not bored anymore. Like people are literally married to their smartphone. In Japan, there are some guys even marring robots.
So…their economy priced them out of all kinds of shit and they’re all depressed and overworked and don’t see the purpose of pro creating solely to create more miserable “live to serve” offspring. Sounds very similar to your average working Americans current feelings about the state of the country. Many similar views. I guess Japans birth rate is what we have to look forward to in the United States.
I can't speak for Japan but that's certainly not true of America. In the US the birth rate generally drops as families income goes up with the lowest birth rate being rich people.
As an American living in Yokohama… I think people here don’t seem to want to be responsible for much more than themselves. Financially and personally. If they think they can’t afford it or they work too long to be able to spend time on their kid they just won’t have any. If they can pay rent and enjoy their life they will be reluctant to add additional stress and responsibilities.
You don’t often hear about how dual parent work culture can ruin the family life. Both of mine worked full time jobs and they were often tired and wiped out when they came home. I could tell they were stressed out, and didn’t want to parent after a hard days work so they let the tv handle it which lead to an overall bad impression on having dual income with three kids. Not to mention the parents would fight over who had to do what for after work activities like dinner, chores, etc.
That seems reasonable and makes sense. A lot of places with high birth rates are places where people don't have much access to birth control. Once a person is able to control reproduction and they start enjoying life, they often choose not to have children and if someone doesn't want to have children, that's their prerogative. No one should be trying to pressure people who don't want children to have children.
I lived in Tokyo in the late 90's they got hit hard by their real estate bubble. All a sudden Japanese women wanted to date me when just a year or two before that would have never happened. They actually have a "lost generation" of people that never got a chance to get a job/career that still affects Japan deeply all these years later. I saw some suffering, not a lot but I could definitely see a difference from "everything's great" to "everything is not so great" almost over night.
@@BabylonGateLA Yeah they were definitely worried about future employment in Japan as the bubble had burst so many Japanese dreams were smashed. THe women figured they'd have more financial stability by dating me. Up to then college grads used to be guaranteed jobs upon graduation via huge job fairs in Tokyo but that ended, thus the "lost generation". At that time they never really had to fire workers they were usually guaranteed jobs with the same company for their entire working career. And I heard horror stories of how companies would fire their employees, have you ever heard about that? Very strange and cruel.
Rampage is actually onto something with the rejection idea. Japanese culture is very much about not failing publicly, and if you do, you take very dramatic action (Iykyk). It’s very likely that many Japanese men give up on dating after a few rejections and become shut ins afterwards. That probably makes Japanese women more jaded about dating as well.
with that said I remember seeing a group of boys in their early 20s/late teens "nampa"(picking up girls)-ing or trying to outside Machida station one afternoon, all dressed slick. There is a pickup artist like movement like anywhere else but generally yes, a lot of guys are too shy to even be rejected in the first place so Kokuhaku or confession of love is very difficult
@@ls.c.5682 I’m sure there is a segment of f-boys in Japan that are cleaning up because of lack of competition, but those guys probably aren’t having kids either. I think Japan just has a very exaggerated version of what is happening in the west.
@@Mufasa_Shabazz I think the difference between today and say 30 years ago is that back in the day women had more pressure on them to get married young. Nowadays society doesn’t push women to settle down fast. So back in the day, a woman was less likely to reject a man she didn’t find attractive if she needed to find a husband. But now women are way more selective, so they’re rejecting more men, which is causing the issue rampage mentioned.
Joe has been rich for a LONG time, he's out of touch with the reality of how people are too broke to have kids. Me and my wife aren't having any for this reason.
@@adim00lah I'm gonna check this out, but I know a lot of people who lived in Japan. They go there to work long hours in tough jobs, like gutting fish for 10h a day. And there has never been even the faint illusion of staying.
It's because it's so expensive and very hard to get into a good salary job, and then after that they work alot, long hours, an office salary man can easily put in 14, 15, 16 hour days
"They don't really give a reason why" ??? The article said very clearly why Japanese people aren't reproducing. It's the same reason why everyone else in first world countries aren't reproducing. IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE, the economy is not what it used to be, people are overworked, underpaid while corporations rake in record profits. Thank goodness I didn't have children, my life would be so much more difficult had I had any. No regrets and I understand why other people don't want to have any.
Not only in Japan having problems with population decline. Some European countries such as Germany and Italy are suffering with demographic issues. Also, Korea and some other Asian countries are having demographic problems.
it's happening practically everywhere, go and look up fertility replacement rate, and what countries are at or above the 2.1 births per woman that is required to just keep their population steady. Only third world countries are above that. It's why mass immigration is happening in most democratic countries right now. Their entire system needs constant population growth.
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South Korea's decline in birth rate is way way worse. Surprisingly though with the amount of intelligent convo that usually happens on this podcast that Joe didn't think about some more tangible reasons about the decline in birth rate and it's pretty much the same as everywhere else: People are too busy to meet anyone else Generally people are broken from work culture It's far too expensive to start a family, relatively speaking it may seem cheap from a US perspective/Dollar but the erosion of the middle class is happening in Japan the same way as the US Very difficult for women to re-join the workforce after taking time out for a baby Video games and hobbies are NOT a factor in the above The government are trying to incentivise people to have children like giving a $4k equiv "bonus" or grant for children, tax reductions, and good paternity leave but people are pressured not to take the paternity leave
@@asdfsffd-g9y if the U.S.A. was as heterogenous of a population as Japan, they could do it. Unfortunately there's been a culture clash in the USA for 150+ years.
Ironic how our parents wanted us to have it better and after all they did to us all we really want is a fraction of what they have, they won't let go of the world the promised to give us
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If you have boomer parents they absolutely don’t want to see you do better than them, they despise the very thought of it. There are exceptions, they are very, very rare.
@@Azzury.A lot of the old school media lackeys of theirs have now been spewing propaganda that Millennials and Gen Z have nothing to complain about because when Boomers start to die off, those two specific generations will “inherit” the housing they could never buy from their parents and money to boot….completely trying to make us all forget that Boomers are the very same generation notorious for overspending and over consuming sh!t. Not to mention most never saved when they had the chance to when they were young (due to that overspending), hence why they stayed in the workforce much longer than they should be and why even Gen X could not even take over leadership roles in most jobs from them either! They may be asset rich, but I guarantee most Millennials & Z will still be left with nothing because the Boomers would rather continue to spend on themselves (like cruises) than to be stuck around babysitting the grandkids they demand from younger generations!😅
@@Ellis-Tor a good is example someone else posted is our crazy demanding work schedules, long shift an work weeks, always on call and unable to take time off or have a real vacation and life. They're children never reaching the age they will because they rased us on microwaved and fast food while letting the television raise us, some how our suffering and their mediocre success is all balmed on us. If this world isn't destroying itself it certainly deserves to be. I also blame all the influencers and tech job people who arguably have even easier more pointless jobs but get seen everywhere to distract from the overwhelming majority who all work in the service industry
I live in Japan. There is a tremendous and rich comedic scene here. We don’t hear about it in America however because the comedy is in Japanese. To be fair, people from Tokyo are generally known for being very serious.
Turns out that giving women a disposable income and birth control means that they would rather party than having families and thus society will collapse.
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@@sasquatch2753Their traditional society was destroyed post Hiroshima. They are a totally demoralised people, living in a kind of soulless corporatist, capitalist experiment. They have no traditional values beyond trivial ritualising which are relics of a bygone era, they do not possess a sense of greater purpose, of a connection to a collective unconscious, to a people and a nation with history, to an inheritance - they are like slaves to their paymasters, living for nothing other than their mundane existence. It’s rather quite a hellish existence, but because of the veneer that covers it, that their society is so clean, advanced, orderly, we somehow don’t see the insidious nature of it and how loveless and baron it is, how unnatural and inhuman. Much like us in many regards.
@@sasquatch2753Their traditional society was destroyed post Hiroshima. They are a totally demoralised people, living in a kind of soulless corporatist, capitalist experiment. They have no traditional values beyond trivial ritualising which are relics of a bygone era, they do not possess a sense of greater purpose, of a connection to a collective unconscious, to a people and a nation with history, to an inheritance - they are like serfs to their paymasters, living for nothing other than their mundane existence. It’s rather quite a hellish existence, but because of the veneer that covers it, that their society is so clean, advanced, orderly, we somehow don’t see the insidious nature of it and how loveless and baron it is, how unnatural and inhuman. Much like us in many regards.
As a Asian man I also kinda afraid rejection , I’m in Europe but I just can not go on the street and try to have a conversation with them not because I’m kinda shy it just because I don’t like that a girl refuses me directly in public. I feel pretty embarrassed
On the comedy, Japanese are actually very funny and love to laugh. Japanese variety shows are just filled with laughter. Most Japanese stand-up comics work in pairs and the humor is in the back-and-forth, similar to the way Abbott and Costello used to work. Every year, there is a huge comedy competition called the M1 Grand Prix that brings together comedians from all over the country to compete against one another in a play-off bracket format. The reason most Americans don't get the humor is because we are locked out of the language. If we aren't fluent, we don't get the puns and can't understand the word play. As you gain fluency, you can pick it up more and more but it take a lot to reach that point. Rampage is right on Osaka. Comedy comes from everywhere, but the best Japanese comedians are usually from Western Japan, the region known as Kansai, around Osaka . In day to day life, most Japanese people don't typically joke around with people until they really get to know them. I think it has to do with the concept of "face." The Japanese project seriousness to the outside world, but are actually very funny and sensitive towards people who are in their "in" group. As westerners, we aren't usually in Japan long enough to develop these relationships so we only see the serious side.
Tell me you are dumb without telling me you are dumb lol Do you know what “feminism” means? And if you do, please go ahead and explain why Japans birth rate decline is due to feminism. I am dying to know 😂
I would be too nervous trying to live in Japan. I know everyone over there is taught to be polite, but I've also heard anyone who is not 100% Japanese is viewed as a second class citizen. They may treat you nice, but you'll never be one of them. I wonder if it's even possible to talk to a random person and become friends.
What are u talking about, it is not cheap to buy a house, a mortgage in Tokyo can be passed down from parent to kids and still not be paid off. In Canada we can have 20 year mortgages, in Japan they can 50 or 60 year mortgages.
The mortgage rates are usually below 1%, and are fixed over that long term. Central Tokyo is insane but some of the nicer wards like Futako Tamagawa ( about 15 mins on train from Shinjuku) has houses for about $200k with the current exchange rate and lower. You also can get income tax reduction / reimbursement if you have a mortgage of 1% of the outstanding amount of the mortgage the first year and then that declines over the next 10 years by 0.1%
Completely anecdotal. I've stayed in Japan for several years. Even in Tokyo and the outskirts countryside, everyone was extremely helpful and supportive. The amount of attention of respect and help for each other is out of this world. Sure the individuals are more reserved but the people are amazing.
I used to work with a Japanese guy, that separated from his wife when he moved to America….he said you work 80 hours a week, you don’t make any decisions for yourself, and when you go on vacation it’s like going on vacation with strangers because you don’t know your wife and kid…him and his ex-wife are both happier
@@KEYSHABLACK-r4e Are you guys that dense? We are talking about the masses. There is a population crisis and people are literally saying out of their mouths why they're not having kids. Obviously poor people are having kids LMFAO.
They are lucky. Governments only care about growing the economy but some of us want quiet spaces and slower lives. I bet some Japanese people are happy with this, i would be.
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Their traditional society was destroyed post Hiroshima. They are a totally demoralised people, living in a kind of soulless corporatist, capitalist experiment. They have no traditional values beyond trivial ritualising which are relics of a bygone era, they do not possess a sense of greater purpose, of a connection to a collective unconscious, to a people and a nation with history, to an inheritance - they are like serfs to their paymasters, living for nothing other than their mundane existence. It’s rather quite a hellish existence, but because of the veneer that covers it, that their society is so clean, advanced, orderly, we somehow don’t see the insidious nature of it and how loveless and baron it is, how unnatural and inhuman. Much like us in many regards.
Part of it is kids are so expensive, Japanese are smart and want better life and not to be poor because of kids. Also kids are distraction and if you want to move up in your job better to be alone
Saw an unhappiness index and Japan ranked really highly on there for the younger age groups. IMO, their work lifestyle has burned them out. They've lost hope for the future due to the grind of life becoming harder and harder.
Being polite is the cause. No talking in subways. Remain “professional” at work. No romantic relationships at schools. No holding hands in public. Where and when can they truly be themselves?
I am Japanese have been living abroad for 20 years and now days every year I go back to Japan, I see aging population issue is becoming real. You don’t see many old people in big towns in Tokyo like Shibuya, Shinjuku etc but once you go other parts of Japan, you see aging population issues everywhere.
Most of the countries I don't like are experiencing population decline. The UK, France, Germany, Italy arew all losing their native populations. The world is healing. God really does have a plan and its playing out.
I was in Tokyo in December 24, My son was working in a craft bar... The open and closed sign on the door.. Showed closed on the inside.... Which caused confusion for two guys.. And they turned and left by the rear door... I turned to the bar staff..." Yea ! Tokyo is closed" Caused a lot of Merryment..
Turns out that giving women a disposable income and birth control means that they would rather party than having families and thus society will collapse.
It's simple. No immigration. Yes, certain metrices are slightly lower than other G7 nations, however the one thing they do not have is a path to citizenship beyond marrying a Japanese person. Other G7 nation,( like my own) only have an increasing population rate due to high levels of immigration: birth rates are still below replacement levels. Unlike most developed countries, Japanese citizenship policy prioritizes heritage, over residency: you can live in Japan for 30 years and you are never considered Japanese: you are a foreign resident at best. But if you are of Japanese heritage, and are born and raise overseas, you can apply for immediate citizenship. Its still about blood not belonging. I'm not say it is good or bad, that's just the way it is.
"Passport Bro" culture is a byproduct of mediocre white men being rejected by Western women who have different standards. None of that nonsense exists in Japan - its deeper than that.
As a Japanese woman this kind of bs talk is always funny and cringe. We are real human being with actual personality, not zoo animals or anime characters😅 We love jokes and fun stuff. Comedians are on TV literally every single day. And if you think the "breeding visa" is real, too bad, it was a fake news on April Fool's Day 😂😂😂
Japan's Kantō region (e.g. Tokyo) vs Kansai region (e.g. Osaka) cultural differences are really fascinating. Had a blast in Nara that certainly changed my understanding of Japan. 近畿 4 life!
Koreas even worse. Cost of living crisis and wages there and in Japan stagnant for thirty plus years. Try having a kid or two when your work twelve hour plus days and make only 2k a month or less usd gross before tax. It's trash.
Rogan and Rampage are so out of touch here. It's a problem happening across the west and Japan. It's become so incredibly expensive to have children if you're on an average wage. Housing, cost of living etc. It's why the birthrate has dropped to under 1.5 children per woman in the UK and will likely be under 1 in 10 years time. That's why immigration is at an all time in the UK. Govts just aren't prepared to look at the structural causes as to why the birthrate has fallen so they'll do the easy thing of letting in a load of immigrants and allow them to be scapegoated. It keeps the lower classes fighting against each other rather than fighting the elites.
About cultural differences: I heard the story about Japanese woman, that married Polish guy- and she lived with him in Poland for 10 years(she's an ambasador, or works at embassy or some such)- in her culture if you want someone's help, you have to steer the conversation in such a way, that the other person will offer help and even then you have to pretend like you don't want said help, and only after the other person insists, you accept it with gratitude But over here if we need help, we just go to the person, that can help us and we straight up say so, and offer whatever we think is fair compensation(you helped me with my car? Let's go for drink on me- or something) It was a bit of a cultural "shock" for her at first. Then- she went back to Japan for some holidays- and as soon as her father started that beating around the bush, that old song and dance she just went "what the fuck do you want? Just tell me!". Seems our best parts rubbed off on her So if one day i'll see kinda white samurai, wearing wings, yelling "kurwa twoja mać...!" while charging with mix of katana and saber in hand- my life will be complete
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It isn't just Japan. South Korea, Italy, Taiwan, and other developed countries are facing the same birth issue. It is just too expensive to have a family, people are barely living day by day.
It has everything to do with the economy. In the country they have kids, but everyone is moving from the country to the city, like Tokyo, and it's insanely expensive to live.
His stupid are these guys? They read the article about japans declining population then say “oh it doesn't really say why “ wtf? That is literally what the article was about. I'm dumber for having watches this ans I normally love JRE
There’s a documentary addressing Japanese declining population and joe Rogan did mention some of it, but a big one is being over worked. One of the things we all admire Japanese culture is their notorious work ethic, but they also work so much and hard that they do not have much time for a personal life. We complain in America about 5 day work week with 2 day weekend, but they have a 6 day work week!
This thing about Japanese people not understanding jokes is COMPLETELY non-sense. Their TV is only packed with Manzai (漫才), which is a traditional style of comedy. Japanese people can be hilarious, their humor is just different.
People have some the most unrealistic illusions about Japan. Check out what Japanese attitudes towards “hafu” (mixed race children). And check out Japanese attitude towards foreigners. And Japanese work culture and a Japanese conformist mindset.
They're rich to really understand. I bet they didn't even think maybe it's too expensive now a days and people would rather just not go through all that. Finding housing, paying for kids, paying for education and etc, cost way more than it did back then. Some rather just not have to deal with all that
It’s more than the Rejection. In Japan they work them to the bone so they don’t got time to really socialize or date. Unlike the US where women are very open, in Japan women prefer to be asked out first. And being respectful and honorifics is important out there.
They birth rate in japan is about the same in many western countries, we just keep the replacement level “artificially” in place with immigrants. Low birth rate is not a Japan problem, it seems to be a problem with pretty much all wealthy and developed nations.
Rich people are so clueless on what avg person is going through. If you can't afford basic housing, food, health insurance, etc, how the hell can you have a baby?
You ever watch Financial Audit?
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj No. What is it?
nature engineered us to make babies regardless.
If you think japanese are broke think again
Your the clueless one people in bad neighborhoods in America have babies all the time and they are broke.
It’s because it was so expensive. The real estate bubble in the 90’s ruined young peoples lives and still is happening
Turns out that giving women a disposable income and birth control means that they would rather party than having families and thus society will collapse.
It's the aging population. The politicians continue to pass laws that cater exclusively to the elderly. The elderly are the largest voting block so they always win. Also the cultural mentality is "I had to suffer so the younger generation can suffer to". This is why no laws are passed granting better pay, child subsidies, tax credits, etc.. it all goes to the elderly. There's many other reasons but the politicians only cater to the old. Joe is such a moron saying video games. He knows nothing of the world. 😂
Sounds like Canada right now!
It's a global thing, most sensible people just don't see the point anymore
i think it's every civilize country on earth. Multinational trillion dollar corporations have overtaken the single-family home market, and there's so few homes available that they can just hold a small percentage of the market and sell them house by house while values go up with inflation.
I've worked with Japanese engineers, they come here from corporate, for a set term of 5-7 years, all expenses paid, housing, utilities, food, live in company owned houses, drive company cars, save their ENTIRE salary, and go home wealthy and semi retired.
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THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
and lonely. and single.
Divorce means that they at least tried 😂 not the case in your country
@@deplorablecovfefe9489 is this why every Anime dad is working over seas or just gone
@@KayCee-xy4up Never watched Clannad after story? That's a good one, best father-in-law ever! (But yes, amount of high schoolers in manga and anime in their own apartment is kind of high!)
With a full Japanese sleeve, Joe only been to Japan for a day
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Hard facts
Japan is extremely anti-tattoo. Even if there are a few onsens open to foreigners, many gyms still require you to cover up any visible tattoo
@@johnpark7972 Not anymore, you’re just not allowed to show them on bath houses and gyms
It's not just gyms, it's most places. I know because I've travelled around the country it depends on the city. Nagoya and Osaka are fine but Tokyo its still taboo. Remote places, tattoos are taboo.
They expect corporate employees to work 14 hours a day.
i worked 12 at factory and wanted to unalive my self.... 14... everyday.. 20+ years? Hahah sounds like a amazing life. :)
Thats coming here with Project 2025.
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@@boristheamerican2938Beat it with the propaganda, nerd.
Precisely, the work-life balance is terrible in Japan. There is a culture of men and women being overworked as a respect to your employer. How do you raise a child in that environment?
The fact that Joe went straight to "video games" instead of financial reasons and societal expectations is pretty telling
Joe knows nothing but standard, alt-right "culture war" talking-points, spoon-fed to him by his MAGA friends.
What does it tell? Don’t you think tech addiction has something to do with it? I know you could also say lack of space, few cars, small houses, low marriage rates, long working hours, few farms, low religiosity, etc.
@@derek4412It’s more than that. The problem is deeper, people feel like they’re is no point to what they’re doing. This is a global issue. Many people all over the world are stuck in 30 year or even longer mortgages that they’re probably never going to pay off. Then they get married and have kids because it’s like what else are you going to do? They think it will cure their existential crisis, but it doesn’t. And then on top of that you have societal expectations, boxes that society says you need to live in. Then many of them realize they’re stuck in a job where they’re never going to advance. By the time they do advance to have any kind of power or influence, they’re already old. Some people just fill the time up with video games others with just constantly working and working, to make their lives feel like they have purpose. It’s like humanity is just going in a circle, just keeps repeating itself over and over. Technology just keeps advancing and people fade out, die and then new people come in and the circle just keeps going round and round. Like a never ending loop.
@@derek4412 Joe is utterly desperate to turn EVERY Social issue into an alt-right talking-point he heard from his MAGA friends....
@@derek4412it telling how ignorant he is talking about a topic he has no idea about
When I was with the US Navy in Japan they actually told us during our initial briefing not to stop and help Japanese people who have accidents or medical crises. The way they explained it was that Japan does not have good Samaritan laws and that you have no legal protection if you try to provide first aid to someone. In fact, if you make some kind of mistake and make the situation worse, you can actually be prosecuted. They told us to mind our own business and leave it to the medical professionals.
Same thing for getting involved in someone else's dispute. If you see someone getting beat down or abused, call the cops but otherwise mind your own business. It seems strange, but Japan is a different culture. after all, and has different standards.
I think its also a cultural thing with saving face
I wholeheartedly prefer society has good Samaritan law
I thought that's just in China where morals don't exist even old people will steal from you
My paramedic cousin who works in Mexicali said never ever stop to help anyone, even if you witnessed them get ran over because if they die on your hands you will take some fault. Wild.
@@c3ramics😮😮😮😮
Working 14-16 hours a day isn't a life...it's just living.
Nah, that's just existing. Living implies, well, living life.
I use to work 16 hours a day never hung out with my kids. Bought my house got laid off found a part time job that pays my mortgage now chill with my kids all the time.
@Xoulrath_ you could be in a coma 'living' it wouldn't be much of a life.
I get what you're saying, pretty much what I meant.
@@geraldjuvejr.6171 again; you aren't "living." You are existing. Living implies certain things. Existing is just that. Either way let's agree to agree and disagree on the semantics.
I'm Japanese and not a single person around me works those long hours.
It seems to me that foreigners have too many stereotypes about Japan.ー
It's central banking destroying the money. Everyone is working harder and harder, longer and longer for currencies that are being devalued. So now everything is expensive, no feeling of security and a long term future and you have to spend all your time at work.
Exactly, like so many other countries now. Most people do not understand this.
Wrong! It's because everyone is following the Greco-Roman ways of the white man.
@lewispaine4589 I've being hearing alot about this lately
BINGO!!!!!
Exactly
Not sure why everyone keys on Japan, South Korea actually has an even lower birthrate, and a number of other countries in East Asia and Europe have similar birthrates. This is not just a "Japan" thing, this is a thing in developed, modern societies.
Because the U.S. military presence there is bigger.
@@ArturoGarzaIDI don’t think US military presence makes a country’s birth rate lowest in the world
@@johnpark7972 You asked why everyone focuses on Japan and not Korea. It’s because U.S. has a large presence in Japan. Some people say the U.S. is the de facto owner of Japan since U.S. defeated them in Pearl Harbor.
Yea, it's a problem in a lot of wealthier countries including Italy, Spain, Japan, South Korea, and China. The US is also experiencing a decline. People can't afford to raise families with stagnant wages and high costs of living.
Clearly it is designed by tech addiction, just think about how much do you spend time "having fun" using tech, your brain is not bored anymore. Like people are literally married to their smartphone.
In Japan, there are some guys even marring robots.
You think japan is bad you need to look at South Korea
Really that’s crazy
South Korean culture is delusional. They live in a constant lie. Everything needs to be extra perfect
Yep, South is much worse. Many of the South Korean graduates come and look for work in Japan.
Yep. Birthrate is HALF of japans
They have the highest income tax in the world.
So…their economy priced them out of all kinds of shit and they’re all depressed and overworked and don’t see the purpose of pro creating solely to create more miserable “live to serve” offspring.
Sounds very similar to your average working Americans current feelings about the state of the country. Many similar views. I guess Japans birth rate is what we have to look forward to in the United States.
This comment should definitely be at THE TOP!!
It’s already happening
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I can't speak for Japan but that's certainly not true of America. In the US the birth rate generally drops as families income goes up with the lowest birth rate being rich people.
@@BrandonHeat243 Yeah it also drops when people are taking out credit cards to buy fucking groceries. Two different extremes obviously
As an American living in Yokohama…
I think people here don’t seem to want to be responsible for much more than themselves.
Financially and personally.
If they think they can’t afford it or they work too long to be able to spend time on their kid they just won’t have any.
If they can pay rent and enjoy their life they will be reluctant to add additional stress and responsibilities.
You don’t often hear about how dual parent work culture can ruin the family life. Both of mine worked full time jobs and they were often tired and wiped out when they came home. I could tell they were stressed out, and didn’t want to parent after a hard days work so they let the tv handle it which lead to an overall bad impression on having dual income with three kids. Not to mention the parents would fight over who had to do what for after work activities like dinner, chores, etc.
Same
Smart.
Makes sense
That seems reasonable and makes sense. A lot of places with high birth rates are places where people don't have much access to birth control. Once a person is able to control reproduction and they start enjoying life, they often choose not to have children and if someone doesn't want to have children, that's their prerogative. No one should be trying to pressure people who don't want children to have children.
I lived in Tokyo in the late 90's they got hit hard by their real estate bubble. All a sudden Japanese women wanted to date me when just a year or two before that would have never happened. They actually have a "lost generation" of people that never got a chance to get a job/career that still affects Japan deeply all these years later. I saw some suffering, not a lot but I could definitely see a difference from "everything's great" to "everything is not so great" almost over night.
So why they wanted to date you out of nowhere? You got money?
@@BabylonGateLA foreigner might be perceived as wealthy
@@BabylonGateLA Yeah they were definitely worried about future employment in Japan as the bubble had burst so many Japanese dreams were smashed. THe women figured they'd have more financial stability by dating me. Up to then college grads used to be guaranteed jobs upon graduation via huge job fairs in Tokyo but that ended, thus the "lost generation". At that time they never really had to fire workers they were usually guaranteed jobs with the same company for their entire working career. And I heard horror stories of how companies would fire their employees, have you ever heard about that? Very strange and cruel.
Happening in Canada right now.
@@BabylonGateLAbasically women are insidious opportunists
Rampage is actually onto something with the rejection idea. Japanese culture is very much about not failing publicly, and if you do, you take very dramatic action (Iykyk). It’s very likely that many Japanese men give up on dating after a few rejections and become shut ins afterwards. That probably makes Japanese women more jaded about dating as well.
with that said I remember seeing a group of boys in their early 20s/late teens "nampa"(picking up girls)-ing or trying to outside Machida station one afternoon, all dressed slick.
There is a pickup artist like movement like anywhere else but generally yes, a lot of guys are too shy to even be rejected in the first place so Kokuhaku or confession of love is very difficult
@@ls.c.5682 I’m sure there is a segment of f-boys in Japan that are cleaning up because of lack of competition, but those guys probably aren’t having kids either. I think Japan just has a very exaggerated version of what is happening in the west.
Man that freaking suck. I couldn't imagine giving up on dating.
What have they been doing all of these years in the past then?
@@Mufasa_Shabazz I think the difference between today and say 30 years ago is that back in the day women had more pressure on them to get married young. Nowadays society doesn’t push women to settle down fast. So back in the day, a woman was less likely to reject a man she didn’t find attractive if she needed to find a husband. But now women are way more selective, so they’re rejecting more men, which is causing the issue rampage mentioned.
Joe is clueless 😂 this population collapse is WORLD WIDE
What countries
All industrialized advanced countries are having fewer kids while the immigrants/ refugees are still of the mentality to have many kids.
@@haashemmalik6112 Every first world country for a start. And even some second and third world ones. Plummeting sperm counts and testosterone levels
Yes but in Europe it's masked by immigration same with USA
Joe has been rich for a LONG time, he's out of touch with the reality of how people are too broke to have kids. Me and my wife aren't having any for this reason.
The one thing Japan ain't doing is "asking people to go there"
I don't think they even want niseis
They would rather have Koreans come to japan and they hate them with a passion.
They are asking highly educated people to come work there. But not the shit Joe is referring to with asking people to get kids.
Japan is offering a 1 year visa, and 10,000 dollars as part of their regional revitalization program for foreigners who wish to move there.
@@adim00lah I'm gonna check this out, but I know a lot of people who lived in Japan.
They go there to work long hours in tough jobs, like gutting fish for 10h a day.
And there has never been even the faint illusion of staying.
My father was born in Osaka. I always tell my wife. We're moving there.
The population decline in South Korea is worst. Italy has this problem as well
Japanese people just don’t have babies irresponsibly. They actually think about the future and their ability to care for the child
This is such a bad argument it's comical
@@mrscruff66Americans could use this mindset
The beginning of Idiocracy😂
Ironically, there future is looking bleak with there reduction in population.
yeah and black men aren't known to be responsible baby makers! Japanese women please be careful!!
It's because it's so expensive and very hard to get into a good salary job, and then after that they work alot, long hours, an office salary man can easily put in 14, 15, 16 hour days
"They don't really give a reason why" ??? The article said very clearly why Japanese people aren't reproducing. It's the same reason why everyone else in first world countries aren't reproducing. IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE, the economy is not what it used to be, people are overworked, underpaid while corporations rake in record profits. Thank goodness I didn't have children, my life would be so much more difficult had I had any. No regrets and I understand why other people don't want to have any.
Not only in Japan having problems with population decline. Some European countries such as Germany and Italy are suffering with demographic issues. Also, Korea and some other Asian countries are having demographic problems.
it's happening practically everywhere, go and look up fertility replacement rate, and what countries are at or above the 2.1 births per woman that is required to just keep their population steady. Only third world countries are above that. It's why mass immigration is happening in most democratic countries right now. Their entire system needs constant population growth.
HOW THEY GONNA TALK ABOUT POPULATION DECLINE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT AINT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT EXACT SITUATION IN AMERICA????
THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
S Korea has actually the lowest rate by a wide margin. 0.7 or something.
Korean population decline is way worse than Japan.
@@Dragonstar-p5cIt’s not happening practically everywhere. Only to some.
I'm sure the whole culture of never being good enough is kinda not encouraging individuals to have their kids to go through what they did.
HOW THEY GONNA TALK ABOUT POPULATION DECLINE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT AINT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT EXACT SITUATION IN AMERICA????
THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
Too much work not enough pay not enough time to live life
South Korea's decline in birth rate is way way worse.
Surprisingly though with the amount of intelligent convo that usually happens on this podcast that Joe didn't think about some more tangible reasons about the decline in birth rate and it's pretty much the same as everywhere else:
People are too busy to meet anyone else
Generally people are broken from work culture
It's far too expensive to start a family, relatively speaking it may seem cheap from a US perspective/Dollar but the erosion of the middle class is happening in Japan the same way as the US
Very difficult for women to re-join the workforce after taking time out for a baby
Video games and hobbies are NOT a factor in the above
The government are trying to incentivise people to have children like giving a $4k equiv "bonus" or grant for children, tax reductions, and good paternity leave but people are pressured not to take the paternity leave
It shouldn't be interesting how clean it is. Everywhere can be that clean.
Not with American demographics
No, it cannot. New York City will never, ever be Tokyo.
@@CTKearns if we create a better education system... Oh, wait... Nope, you're right.
of course anywhere can be. the interesting part is that it actually is.
@@asdfsffd-g9y if the U.S.A. was as heterogenous of a population as Japan, they could do it. Unfortunately there's been a culture clash in the USA for 150+ years.
Ironic how our parents wanted us to have it better and after all they did to us all we really want is a fraction of what they have, they won't let go of the world the promised to give us
HOW THEY GONNA TALK ABOUT POPULATION DECLINE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT AINT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT EXACT SITUATION IN AMERICA????
THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
If you have boomer parents they absolutely don’t want to see you do better than them, they despise the very thought of it. There are exceptions, they are very, very rare.
@@Azzury.A lot of the old school media lackeys of theirs have now been spewing propaganda that Millennials and Gen Z have nothing to complain about because when Boomers start to die off, those two specific generations will “inherit” the housing they could never buy from their parents and money to boot….completely trying to make us all forget that Boomers are the very same generation notorious for overspending and over consuming sh!t. Not to mention most never saved when they had the chance to when they were young (due to that overspending), hence why they stayed in the workforce much longer than they should be and why even Gen X could not even take over leadership roles in most jobs from them either!
They may be asset rich, but I guarantee most Millennials & Z will still be left with nothing because the Boomers would rather continue to spend on themselves (like cruises) than to be stuck around babysitting the grandkids they demand from younger generations!😅
the collective resentment that the boomers have for the younger generations is pretty intense
@@Ellis-Tor a good is example someone else posted is our crazy demanding work schedules, long shift an work weeks, always on call and unable to take time off or have a real vacation and life. They're children never reaching the age they will because they rased us on microwaved and fast food while letting the television raise us, some how our suffering and their mediocre success is all balmed on us. If this world isn't destroying itself it certainly deserves to be. I also blame all the influencers and tech job people who arguably have even easier more pointless jobs but get seen everywhere to distract from the overwhelming majority who all work in the service industry
I live in Japan. There is a tremendous and rich comedic scene here. We don’t hear about it in America however because the comedy is in Japanese. To be fair, people from Tokyo are generally known for being very serious.
Work life certainly doesn't help
Turns out that giving women a disposable income and birth control means that they would rather party than having families and thus society will collapse.
HOW THEY GONNA TALK ABOUT POPULATION DECLINE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT AINT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT EXACT SITUATION IN AMERICA????
THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
There work ethic has been successful for over 3000 years.
@@sasquatch2753Their traditional society was destroyed post Hiroshima. They are a totally demoralised people, living in a kind of soulless corporatist, capitalist experiment. They have no traditional values beyond trivial ritualising which are relics of a bygone era, they do not possess a sense of greater purpose, of a connection to a collective unconscious, to a people and a nation with history, to an inheritance - they are like slaves to their paymasters, living for nothing other than their mundane existence. It’s rather quite a hellish existence, but because of the veneer that covers it, that their society is so clean, advanced, orderly, we somehow don’t see the insidious nature of it and how loveless and baron it is, how unnatural and inhuman. Much like us in many regards.
@@sasquatch2753Their traditional society was destroyed post Hiroshima. They are a totally demoralised people, living in a kind of soulless corporatist, capitalist experiment. They have no traditional values beyond trivial ritualising which are relics of a bygone era, they do not possess a sense of greater purpose, of a connection to a collective unconscious, to a people and a nation with history, to an inheritance - they are like serfs to their paymasters, living for nothing other than their mundane existence. It’s rather quite a hellish existence, but because of the veneer that covers it, that their society is so clean, advanced, orderly, we somehow don’t see the insidious nature of it and how loveless and baron it is, how unnatural and inhuman. Much like us in many regards.
Atleast the Japanese are smart enough to keep their homeland and not be replaced lol
As a Asian man I also kinda afraid rejection , I’m in Europe but I just can not go on the street and try to have a conversation with them not because I’m kinda shy it just because I don’t like that a girl refuses me directly in public. I feel pretty embarrassed
How many times have you been rejected
Brother, you are ok. You have an entire planet to choose from. Don't let those rejections keep you down.
@@geysi6122 you miss all the shots you don't take
I use to be like that but now a days I don’t even care
On the comedy, Japanese are actually very funny and love to laugh. Japanese variety shows are just filled with laughter. Most Japanese stand-up comics work in pairs and the humor is in the back-and-forth, similar to the way Abbott and Costello used to work. Every year, there is a huge comedy competition called the M1 Grand Prix that brings together comedians from all over the country to compete against one another in a play-off bracket format.
The reason most Americans don't get the humor is because we are locked out of the language. If we aren't fluent, we don't get the puns and can't understand the word play. As you gain fluency, you can pick it up more and more but it take a lot to reach that point. Rampage is right on Osaka. Comedy comes from everywhere, but the best Japanese comedians are usually from Western Japan, the region known as Kansai, around Osaka .
In day to day life, most Japanese people don't typically joke around with people until they really get to know them. I think it has to do with the concept of "face." The Japanese project seriousness to the outside world, but are actually very funny and sensitive towards people who are in their "in" group. As westerners, we aren't usually in Japan long enough to develop these relationships so we only see the serious side.
they are not asking anyone to come lol
1) Feminism
2) Workaholic culture
3) Cost of living
Feminism in Japan? Lol
Tell me you are dumb without telling me you are dumb lol
Do you know what “feminism” means? And if you do, please go ahead and explain why Japans birth rate decline is due to feminism. I am dying to know 😂
@@Haizukihomie has no clue.and placed feminism as first 😂
Sound like America
@@Haizuki Women working and being independent of men is a concept from feminism. So yes, feminism.
America isn't far behind them either.
You're wrong mate. America had a growing population. How are we not that behind from japan?
@@Nicola.M7because america has mass immigration, it's not the birthrate
@@ree2453 but what about the white Christian conservatives? Aren't they having enough kids?
@@Nicola.M7that is due to immigration not birthrates.
@@Nicola.M7they are not
I would be too nervous trying to live in Japan. I know everyone over there is taught to be polite, but I've also heard anyone who is not 100% Japanese is viewed as a second class citizen. They may treat you nice, but you'll never be one of them. I wonder if it's even possible to talk to a random person and become friends.
South Korea: hold my beer
The cost of childcare and the availability of it is a factor. Education is crazy expensive too.
What are u talking about, it is not cheap to buy a house, a mortgage in Tokyo can be passed down from parent to kids and still not be paid off. In Canada we can have 20 year mortgages, in Japan they can 50 or 60 year mortgages.
The mortgage rates are usually below 1%, and are fixed over that long term. Central Tokyo is insane but some of the nicer wards like Futako Tamagawa ( about 15 mins on train from Shinjuku) has houses for about $200k with the current exchange rate and lower. You also can get income tax reduction / reimbursement if you have a mortgage of 1% of the outstanding amount of the mortgage the first year and then that declines over the next 10 years by 0.1%
The country side is basically giving away houses, that’s where most of the depopulation is happening
Tokyo and a few other metro areas are expensive but if you want to live in Tohoku, Shikoku, or South Kyushu it is incredibly cheap.
Jamie: "Doesn't really give a reason why," after immediately giving the reasons why.
Completely anecdotal. I've stayed in Japan for several years. Even in Tokyo and the outskirts countryside, everyone was extremely helpful and supportive. The amount of attention of respect and help for each other is out of this world. Sure the individuals are more reserved but the people are amazing.
If you give a Japanese woman children or a pet they’ll do what? I couldn’t understand what he’s saying
I don't even think Joe himself understood wtf this man said.
What he said was poorly cut censored. He said once they have a pet or kid they're never 'fucking' again.
@@spowers8691Thank you! I suspected he was saying roughly something like that, but I was very confused as to what exact thing he'd said.
I used to work with a Japanese guy, that separated from his wife when he moved to America….he said you work 80 hours a week, you don’t make any decisions for yourself, and when you go on vacation it’s like going on vacation with strangers because you don’t know your wife and kid…him and his ex-wife are both happier
Working literally every waking hour of the day like automatons might have something to do with it.
Same thing in my native Italy. While I have five children most of my family back home have one to two at the most.
Two rich guys wondering why people aren’t having kids
That doesn’t mean much considering it’s the poorest African countries that make the most babies
You don’t have to be rich to have kids. Your parents werent…
@@AlvinEugene11 Are you special or something? We're talking about now. Generation is a thing lol. Where do you live at in your head?
since when don't poor people have kids ?m
@@KEYSHABLACK-r4e Are you guys that dense? We are talking about the masses. There is a population crisis and people are literally saying out of their mouths why they're not having kids. Obviously poor people are having kids LMFAO.
Rampage "Peter Ziehan" Jackson
They are lucky. Governments only care about growing the economy but some of us want quiet spaces and slower lives. I bet some Japanese people are happy with this, i would be.
HOW THEY GONNA TALK ABOUT POPULATION DECLINE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT AINT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT EXACT SITUATION IN AMERICA????
THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
Their traditional society was destroyed post Hiroshima. They are a totally demoralised people, living in a kind of soulless corporatist, capitalist experiment. They have no traditional values beyond trivial ritualising which are relics of a bygone era, they do not possess a sense of greater purpose, of a connection to a collective unconscious, to a people and a nation with history, to an inheritance - they are like serfs to their paymasters, living for nothing other than their mundane existence. It’s rather quite a hellish existence, but because of the veneer that covers it, that their society is so clean, advanced, orderly, we somehow don’t see the insidious nature of it and how loveless and baron it is, how unnatural and inhuman. Much like us in many regards.
Part of it is kids are so expensive, Japanese are smart and want better life and not to be poor because of kids. Also kids are distraction and if you want to move up in your job better to be alone
Saw an unhappiness index and Japan ranked really highly on there for the younger age groups. IMO, their work lifestyle has burned them out. They've lost hope for the future due to the grind of life becoming harder and harder.
Being polite is the cause.
No talking in subways. Remain “professional” at work. No romantic relationships at schools. No holding hands in public.
Where and when can they truly be themselves?
I like your comment it reads like a haiku.
I am Japanese have been living abroad for 20 years and now days every year I go back to Japan, I see aging population issue is becoming real. You don’t see many old people in big towns in Tokyo like Shibuya, Shinjuku etc but once you go other parts of Japan, you see aging population issues everywhere.
Are you guys trying to fix it?
I see a lot of older folks working at restaurants and as safety guys in construction zones who wave and stop traffic. They are ALL over 50 at least.
Man, why can’t it be one of the countries we don’t like that’s having a population decline?
They are. Russia is in deep do-do, as is North Korea and China.
Birth rates are slowing globally. The 1st worlders are just ahead of the curve.
Judgement for following the white man and his Greco-Roman Christian ways.
If you know you know. Cry more.
Separation is coming.
Russia and China are facing demographic collapse.
Most of the countries I don't like are experiencing population decline. The UK, France, Germany, Italy arew all losing their native populations. The world is healing. God really does have a plan and its playing out.
This is the most normal human that I’ve seen Rampage behave , he usually bullies someone or says something stupid.
I was in Tokyo in December 24, My son was working in a craft bar... The open and closed sign on the door.. Showed closed on the inside.... Which caused confusion for two guys.. And they turned and left by the rear door... I turned to the bar staff..." Yea ! Tokyo is closed" Caused a lot of Merryment..
Great conversation. Super insightful about Japanese normal marriage life from Rampage
Its the cost of living long work hours also very reserved
Turns out that giving women a disposable income and birth control means that they would rather party than having families and thus society will collapse.
Thrse two guys are clueless about Japanese society. I've lived in Japan for more than 17 years, but after just six months I knew more than these two.
Please enlighten us
It's simple. No immigration. Yes, certain metrices are slightly lower than other G7 nations, however the one thing they do not have is a path to citizenship beyond marrying a Japanese person. Other G7 nation,( like my own) only have an increasing population rate due to high levels of immigration: birth rates are still below replacement levels. Unlike most developed countries, Japanese citizenship policy prioritizes heritage, over residency: you can live in Japan for 30 years and you are never considered Japanese: you are a foreign resident at best. But if you are of Japanese heritage, and are born and raise overseas, you can apply for immediate citizenship. Its still about blood not belonging. I'm not say it is good or bad, that's just the way it is.
"Passport Bro" culture is a byproduct of mediocre white men being rejected by Western women who have different standards. None of that nonsense exists in Japan - its deeper than that.
I mean, we know on which side they were in the 1940's
@@DarioFKVyour point?
Do you know anything from anywhere but a War 80 years Ago?
We are gradually becoming the same way
I visited Japan for a month and absolutely loved it. My favorite country.
Japan 🇯🇵 is awesome!!
Lived there for 8 years as an expat.
the thing rampage said about pets and kids, its true
Do you know exactly why this occurs??
@@tropikalboz no I haven't figured it out yet
maternal instinct kicks in, woman's duty shifts from needs of husband to needs of dependents, all-or-nothing mothering switch turns on
It’s actually a cultural and financial problem. Cost of living and low focus on approaching strangers. Lots of emotional regression
South Korea is the another level
Same problem everything is expensive. No money No family. Live with it
As a Japanese woman this kind of bs talk is always funny and cringe. We are real human being with actual personality, not zoo animals or anime characters😅 We love jokes and fun stuff. Comedians are on TV literally every single day. And if you think the "breeding visa" is real, too bad, it was a fake news on April Fool's Day 😂😂😂
No, the problem is their economy has been bad for 30 years. People can't afford it.
Low population is nice quiet life.govt wants to grow population so they can get tax money. It's its own entity.
They can’t fix it, going to be a collapse! No government has ever fixed population decline!
Japan's Kantō region (e.g. Tokyo) vs Kansai region (e.g. Osaka) cultural differences are really fascinating. Had a blast in Nara that certainly changed my understanding of Japan.
近畿 4 life!
Koreas even worse. Cost of living crisis and wages there and in Japan stagnant for thirty plus years. Try having a kid or two when your work twelve hour plus days and make only 2k a month or less usd gross before tax. It's trash.
This.
Rogan and Rampage are so out of touch here.
It's a problem happening across the west and Japan. It's become so incredibly expensive to have children if you're on an average wage. Housing, cost of living etc. It's why the birthrate has dropped to under 1.5 children per woman in the UK and will likely be under 1 in 10 years time. That's why immigration is at an all time in the UK.
Govts just aren't prepared to look at the structural causes as to why the birthrate has fallen so they'll do the easy thing of letting in a load of immigrants and allow them to be scapegoated. It keeps the lower classes fighting against each other rather than fighting the elites.
Tbh this is the first time I actually listened to rampage talk normal, bro sounds really smart and aware for a fighter named rampage 😂
Lived in Japan 12 years. Seen its decline
About cultural differences: I heard the story about Japanese woman, that married Polish guy- and she lived with him in Poland for 10 years(she's an ambasador, or works at embassy or some such)- in her culture if you want someone's help, you have to steer the conversation in such a way, that the other person will offer help and even then you have to pretend like you don't want said help, and only after the other person insists, you accept it with gratitude
But over here if we need help, we just go to the person, that can help us and we straight up say so, and offer whatever we think is fair compensation(you helped me with my car? Let's go for drink on me- or something)
It was a bit of a cultural "shock" for her at first. Then- she went back to Japan for some holidays- and as soon as her father started that beating around the bush, that old song and dance she just went "what the fuck do you want? Just tell me!". Seems our best parts rubbed off on her
So if one day i'll see kinda white samurai, wearing wings, yelling "kurwa twoja mać...!" while charging with mix of katana and saber in hand- my life will be complete
HOW THEY GONNA TALK ABOUT POPULATION DECLINE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT AINT GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT EXACT SITUATION IN AMERICA????
THATS WHY THEY BRINGING IN ALL THESE MIGRANTS CAUSE THE US CANT GET THEY POPULATION GOING.....
CULTURAL DIFFERENCE???? AMERICA IS HAVING THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM
She cursed at her father? Yeah idc not cool polish culture to inherit
Lol. Japan isn't going anywhere. Their population is just leveling off. Infinite Growth is very bad.
Lots of misconceptions about Japanese culture and society here
Yo rampage is just chill as hell now. The mature him is way cooler
It isn't just Japan. South Korea, Italy, Taiwan, and other developed countries are facing the same birth issue. It is just too expensive to have a family, people are barely living day by day.
Our taxpayer dollars in the U.S. is over spent on unwanted babies
I lived there for about a year. Loved it, right outside of Tokyo.
Overwork
Rampage such an authentic person
4:19 what did rampage say never again what?
My guess is you ain't getting laid
I'm wondering that too
He said if you give your Japanese wife a pet or kids, she'll never let you sleep with her again.
@@Minzalin thank you!
@@MinzalinI can attest to this and it’s extremely frustrating.
It has everything to do with the economy. In the country they have kids, but everyone is moving from the country to the city, like Tokyo, and it's insanely expensive to live.
His stupid are these guys?
They read the article about japans declining population then say “oh it doesn't really say why “ wtf? That is literally what the article was about.
I'm dumber for having watches this ans I normally love JRE
There’s a documentary addressing Japanese declining population and joe Rogan did mention some of it, but a big one is being over worked. One of the things we all admire Japanese culture is their notorious work ethic, but they also work so much and hard that they do not have much time for a personal life. We complain in America about 5 day work week with 2 day weekend, but they have a 6 day work week!
This thing about Japanese people not understanding jokes is COMPLETELY non-sense. Their TV is only packed with Manzai (漫才), which is a traditional style of comedy. Japanese people can be hilarious, their humor is just different.
People have some the most unrealistic illusions about Japan. Check out what Japanese attitudes towards “hafu” (mixed race children). And check out Japanese attitude towards foreigners. And Japanese work culture and a Japanese conformist mindset.
We’re next.
I’ve been to Tyson’s bar in New Matrix Roppongi . The best bar and great conversations with Tyson.
Its because everyone broke!!! plain n simple
And no free time
And small homes
Yeah that’s true Tokyo is a lot more uptight than the more laid back Osaka
They clean their room, they work hard, study, have high IQ's, and believe in capitalism...according to Jordan Peterson Japan should be a paradise.
Jordan Peterson is also the guy that tells everyone how to live while he hid a benzo addiction.
I, Jordan Peterson, DO consider Japan to be a paradise, and this is the model we should be striving to replicate.
@@sendtodevnull1269Lol it is really easy to fall into a benzo addiction dude especially how doctors prescribe medicine.
Still better than most countries.
@@AlphaChadBricks They have such high IQs that they aren't reproducing 😂 and are willing to let my people occupy their land once they're gone.
It’s the work/life balance. They do not have it.
Ah Rampage Jackson discussing population decline in Japan. Lol
They're rich to really understand. I bet they didn't even think maybe it's too expensive now a days and people would rather just not go through all that. Finding housing, paying for kids, paying for education and etc, cost way more than it did back then. Some rather just not have to deal with all that
Rampage is fucking hilarious
I lived in Japan for a few years and omg it's the best place in the world for black Americans
It’s more than the Rejection. In Japan they work them to the bone so they don’t got time to really socialize or date. Unlike the US where women are very open, in Japan women prefer to be asked out first. And being respectful and honorifics is important out there.
They birth rate in japan is about the same in many western countries, we just keep the replacement level “artificially” in place with immigrants. Low birth rate is not a Japan problem, it seems to be a problem with pretty much all wealthy and developed nations.