UNREQUITED LOVE: Can Eros Be Revived?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Unrequited love evokes deep feelings from hatred to sorrow. A Jungian lens on the myth of Anteros reveals the archetypal structures rejection evokes.
One day long, long ago, Aphrodite was a new mother. Her son, Eros, was the living symbol of her endless passion for his father, Aries. Despite her divine gifts, Eros failed to thrive. Desperate, she brought the goblet to the ancient mother, Themis, who knew the boy was dying at once. Aphrodite was instructed to bear a second child who, when presented to Eros, would cure him. Dutifully, she lay with Aries and begot a second son. She brought them close and was astonished to see her new son leap toward Eros, who met him in midair. In a tremendous exultant cry, they rolled and laughed-Eros grew strong. His brother was then named Anteros, whose name means 'Love Returned.'
Even the God of Love cannot survive without love's return. Are we so different?
The arrows of Eros strike our hearts, and we are filled with wild love. Psychotherapists call this limerence, that initial stage of love when all we ache for is found in one person. This projection can carry us into a new relationship with intrepid confidence for a time. If that love is unreturned, a second archetype, Anteros, is called forth to punish those who reject love. Armed with his lead club, he strikes the unloving and drives them to ruin.
From time immemorial, the human heart, once filled with passionate fantasy, if rejected, turns to vengeance.
Prepare to discover the intricacies of unrequited love and its psychological underpinnings; how unrequited love is illuminated through Jungian psychology; what constitutes unrequited love, including its symptoms, psychological impacts, and its potential for personal transformation; where this discourse positions itself within the realm of psychological study and mythological exploration; whether unrequited love serves a destructive or constructive purpose in one's life; which myths and psychological theories illuminate the experience and consequences of unrequited love; why unrequited love is pivotal, acting as a catalyst for deeper self-knowledge…and so much more…
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As a retired substance use counselor, I have come to believe that "limerance" is much like a stimulant drug. There's an initial high that last 6 months or sometimes longer, and then later a crash when it becomes painful because this intense crush is not returned by the person with which one has fallen in love. I also wonder if some of us have a complex created from abandonment. fear of intimacy, and the belief that one is unloveable that leads to some sort of repetition compulsion which creates a tendency to fall for those unavailable to us. I love your singing Joseph. The mystics all long for union with the One.
Sometimes with one I love, I fill
myself with rage, for
fear I effuse unreturn'd love.
But now I think there is no unreturn'd love-the pay
is certain, one way or another;
(I loved a certain person ardently, and my love was not return'd
yet out of that, I have written these songs.
Walt Whitman
Boy , did I need THIS topic today 😂
Lisa, just got the book on Audible. God what a treat!!!! Your voice is utter honey dripping in my ears and such profound feminist lessons ❤.
Oef Lisa when you said. "Longing is Divine...' I felt such a recognition. As if the sentence were Eros's arrow, pulsing with pixie dust. Maybe a future podcast subject?
Sing Joeseph! ❤
Yes!
31:39 Joseph's amazing technicolor solo (with zoom!)
I’m 34, never been in a relationship, lots of past trauma, and currently experiencing unrequited love.
Deborah’s remark about “feeling these feelings safely” is a huge revelation… thank you 🙏
Love your discussions. Great chemistry and wise insights. Thank you 🙏
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you all 🙏
Been waiting on this one!!!! Thank you!
Hope you like it!
I loved it. Joseph’s singing was perfect! The book “Divine Madness: Archetypes of Romantic Love” by John Haule also uses a Jungian lens to look at unrequited love. It helped me a lot as well and I recommend it to anyone suffering from unrequited love. I was in the throws of it for a good 5 years and am still slowly finding my way through it. It has been very painful and also transformative. Lisa, I appreciated what you said about the suffering needing to be felt and lived out. Hearing that made me feel okay about doing so.
Love your storytelling Joseph!😊
Love this program!!!!😊
Excellent, thank you!
Yes. This happened to me. My obsession led me to digging deep within myself. Some of these people say six months, while mine lasted ten years.
I love the discussion of the dynamic of projection of the golden shadow and the projection of anima/animus.
So lovely an episode
I adored Joseph’s musical take on R&H’s Cinderella 🎶
*We need more of this!*
I've never really understood the anger people have when others don't return their feelings. That has always puzzled me. I understand it a little bit more now. Also, Joseph, what an impressive singing voice!
Jimmy Stewart in the Philadelphia Story. How did the Katherine Hepburn character not fall for him?
Joseph singing 😆🙏 love love love
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on Charles Taylor book A Secular Age, the idea of the buffered and Porous selves... disenchantment, discipline, individuality vs. Absorbing, Cosmic order, Spiritualism,
This theme and discussion makes me think of "the fool" archetype in the tarot, which marks the first card in the major arcana and the beginning of the journey towards individuation. When love cannot be required, what is the medicine and what path does this set us on?
That stardust in many cases has a strong physical component, and ego gratification might also play a part. Let's be alert on that. How true are we?
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A toxic relationship is another kind of unrequited love…u can actually suffer this in a full blown relationship
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As an analyst, do you find it hard to exit analysis?
"We are morose like that.."😂
We are syncing
Hmm
Linda Leonard's On The Way To The Wedding was the second book mentioned, just in case anybody else comes thru here before i relisten, what was the first book?
The impossible love- why the heart must go wrong
By Jan Bauer
“Divine Madness: Archetypes of Romantic Love” by John Haule is one I highly recommend.
@@linli2798 Thank you Lin!
@@wr9733 Thanks for the recommendation, WR!