This topic brings up so many memories of both my parents' and my own divorce. Pain to the point of nausea, sadness, numbness, many difficulties and then daily gratitude and relief. Thank you for the discussion!
My marriage to a narcissist was like being slowly ground into the window until I was almost extinguished and my divorce was when I peeled myself off and flew away.
Marriage for many people is a way of avoiding loneliness as well as negating their deeper self thus never knowing who they truly are. This avoidance can end in frustration, anger and shame which is then projected upon their marriage partner. Too many people expect their partner to ''complete' them and this will not usually end well.
Oftentimes, these partnerships ( marriage, commitments, arrangements ) are vessels (opportunities) for unhealed individuals to entertain and wield a great amount of projection. The most toxic situations resemble a game of shame/blame ping pong.
As long as there is marriage, there will be divorce. It’s ok, to the brave ones that venture into this covenant, it’s a beautiful experience, either we learn from it or we don’t.
I agree with most of what you two talked about and appreciate that you're refraining from judgment and moralizing when it comes to infidelity. But I wouldn't say that lying and hiding things is just being clumsy or unskilled. You're treating another human being with disrespect and justifying to yourself that it's ok that you're doing that for whatever reason you feel is justifiable. Why hurt someone like that even if you're not meant to be together and it's your right to leave the marriage?
Well, when I finally escaped from my narc husband, he wouldn’t let me have any of our things, everything. And if you don’t have money to spend on lawyers, forget about it.
Actually, are you aware that there is an advertisement playing in your videos, where people ask for donations to abolish some cruelty of snatching baby bears away from their mothers? These baby bear screams are really hard to forget, they stick for hours in your brain. I don't know what the ad is for, I always close the tabs as soon as it comes on. I don't think anybody can concentrate on your videos after hearing this and traumatized people might get retraumatized right away. This is definitely not good. May be you can check and make sure that this kind of very graphic cruelty against animals does not get displayed without forewarning so that people can switch it off before they involuntarily watch it.
I think you can drag the "play" cursor (at the bottom of the video screen) all the way to the right and then tap the rewind circular arrow. That used to work to skip all ads. I haven't had to do that for some time now as I subscribed to UA-cam so I can download load videos with no ads. Sounds really awful :(
This topic brings up so many memories of both my parents' and my own divorce. Pain to the point of nausea, sadness, numbness, many difficulties and then daily gratitude and relief.
Thank you for the discussion!
My reading on Jung leads me to recall that both Feeling and Thinking are "rational" functions, just with different criteria for the evaluation.
Not all affairs are preceded by problems in the marriage. Sometimes people just want it all. There are entitled people out there.
My marriage to a narcissist was like being slowly ground into the window until I was almost extinguished and my divorce was when I peeled myself off and flew away.
Just "sub"scribed to you. Interested in hearing your story if possible some time.
Marriage for many people is a way of avoiding loneliness as well as negating their deeper self thus never knowing who they truly are. This avoidance can end in frustration, anger and shame which is then projected upon their marriage partner. Too many people expect their partner to ''complete' them and this will not usually end well.
Fantastic episode, thank you Joseph and Lisa 🙏
Oftentimes, these partnerships ( marriage, commitments, arrangements ) are vessels (opportunities) for unhealed individuals to entertain and wield a great amount of projection.
The most toxic situations resemble a game of shame/blame ping pong.
Lisa is constantly "mhm-ing" while listening to Joseph as if she was the therapist 😂😂
Thank you.
❤❤❤
Thank you 🙏
The baby image reminds me of the Tatterhood fairytale. The queen gives birth to a wild girl riding a goat carrying a wooden spoon
Thank you for this great episode, it is very helpful for me. Kind regards from Austria, Europe - Michael
As long as there is marriage, there will be divorce. It’s ok, to the brave ones that venture into this covenant, it’s a beautiful experience, either we learn from it or we don’t.
I agree with most of what you two talked about and appreciate that you're refraining from judgment and moralizing when it comes to infidelity. But I wouldn't say that lying and hiding things is just being clumsy or unskilled. You're treating another human being with disrespect and justifying to yourself that it's ok that you're doing that for whatever reason you feel is justifiable. Why hurt someone like that even if you're not meant to be together and it's your right to leave the marriage?
Well, when I finally escaped from my narc husband, he wouldn’t let me have any of our things, everything. And if you don’t have money to spend on lawyers, forget about it.
Yes, well done.
Here is a nice joke: Divorce is like an airplane bathroom; you'll be blamed for whatever preceded you.
“Stir your emotional yogurt.”👏🏾💜👏🏾💜👏🏾
Actually, are you aware that there is an advertisement playing in your videos, where people ask for donations to abolish some cruelty of snatching baby bears away from their mothers? These baby bear screams are really hard to forget, they stick for hours in your brain. I don't know what the ad is for, I always close the tabs as soon as it comes on. I don't think anybody can concentrate on your videos after hearing this and traumatized people might get retraumatized right away. This is definitely not good. May be you can check and make sure that this kind of very graphic cruelty against animals does not get displayed without forewarning so that people can switch it off before they involuntarily watch it.
They have no control over what ad is played. It is UA-cam algorithm decision.
I'd highly recommend paying for UA-cam premium, there are no ads. It's totally worth it.
Get UA-cam premium and you will no longer be exposed to those ads in this video.
I think you can drag the "play" cursor (at the bottom of the video screen) all the way to the right and then tap the rewind circular arrow. That used to work to skip all ads. I haven't had to do that for some time now as I subscribed to UA-cam so I can download load videos with no ads.
Sounds really awful :(
How can they do that?
Where is Deb today?
Lisa looks like she's got cat ears on.