NEUROSIS: Befriending Our Broken Places
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2020
- Although neurosis is no longer a clinical diagnosis, it is often used to describe anxious attitudes and behaviors that are maladaptive to life situations. Neurosis often entails a capacity to function well despite feeling bad; emotional suffering leeches ease and pleasure from life. A neurotic symptom-a phobia, compulsion, or addictive tendency-is no different from a dream. It is important to hear the unconscious story ego has disallowed, welcome fantasies, fears, and instinctual life, and understand their symbolic meaning. Symptoms ask us to know ourselves as we really are so that we can live the life we are meant to be living. Jung says neurosis “must be understood, ultimately, as the suffering of a soul which has not discovered its meaning.” The purpose of neurosis is to help us discover our purpose.
HERE'S THE DREAM WE ANALYZE:
"I am with my family. I go to the kitchen, as this isn't my family's home. I have broken glass inside my mouth; I open my mouth to try and get it out. There aren't many shreds but they are tiny and sharp, I can't get rid of everything, my tongue bleeds but the blood is curdled, dry, dark and thick. As I'm trying to remove the glass with both hands I realize I have broken glass on my lips, too. The shredded glass is inside both lips, and the blood is coagulated and my lips shrank. Now I have broken glass inside my nostrils; I can't breathe from my nose. I just can't, I breathe through my mouth. I bleed profusely but the blood is thick and dark, dry and slimy, it's coagulated. I pull it out like an endless slime that just won't come out all at once. I'm suffocating, no air gets through my nostrils, it's all blocked. I call my brother for help. I complain about it saying I can't breathe and I can't handle it alone. But he doesn't show up. Other things happen in the dream after this that I can't remember, but somehow I end up again in this kitchen with blocked nostrils - because of thick blood, not glass anymore - and now the thick blood has covered my chin, my neck; it's awful and I can't stop it. The blood is dark, slimy and dry (not shiny like slime). I call my dad for help. He appears in front of me. I am persuaded that he's the one who can help me. I wake up."
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The most criminally underrated program I know. Wtf UA-cam algorithm!?!?
Every time I try and get away from Jung...through forms of consciousness or willfullness I keep getting drawn back into Jung...I thank AA/Bill Wilson for this vigilance/adoration. My mind and soul drift towards Jung for comfort and interest as I transition to my later years.
The three of you and your work are such a blessing. Thank you.
I totally agree about the rising of the 'dark feminine'. I've been sensing for quite a while a deep rejection of men beneath all these feminist movements, labeling masculinity as 'toxic', labeling any quality that has to do with assertion, dominance, courage as part of a toxic patriarchy (unless those qualities come from women in which case they are to be celebrated.)
While I understand the bringing to light of abuse, and the push to be treated equally as a woman, I find it reprehensible that many people feel the need to belittle and mock men.
It's much better to celebrate and uplift honorable qualities in men and in women, that way we can be whole and holy creatures to each other and create things that are bigger than the sum of our parts.
Well said. I'd take another step back as well. When we look at the realm of politics the left has a feminine symbolic quality and the right a masculine. Recent history I think shows us some toxic qualities of both.
Perhaps we attach too much symbolism on to this political realm as spiritual ones become more and more eroded in modernity. Perhaps it's a function of social media magnifying our more toxic sides for clicks. Or even this digital revolution may have disembodied us so much to result in these avatar husks that miss some essential synthesis of those better angels you mention in your comment.. I really dont know and am not particulary bright enough to do so.
@@Thomas...191 Yes! Have you watched the Social Dilemma documentary? It highlights these very things you mention.
@@MissNatalonga... haha... I've not watched it yet but you're like the fourth person to ask me that this week!!😂... I am a fan of a few of the people who feature in it so I'd say I'm familiar with some of its contents... it's great that those ideas are now penetrating through the zeitgeist, that gives me great hope because I think these things can only be ameliorated once people are conscious of them.
Men are still shamed far more for feminine behaviour than masculine.
Such a refreshing thread to find 😀
Who's that creep looking at me
Is that my destiny
that's deep - see what you see
clearly your enemy - blocks you from living freely
break the walls - it's only your personality
piece by piece - build a new identity
softly and gently
compassionately
treat yourself like royalty
do things orderly
rehearse repeatedly
daily, weekly
with a smile that's uniquely
yours to use magically
sincerely and lovingly
tell yourself that you're "friendly"
Soulfully and Intently
search for a new ability
the best kept secret
is called "responsibility.
-AURIEL
Blood can represent family line, old dark blood can represent old wounding. Maybe childhood wounding that feels overwhelming, never ending.
Thank you for this. I had a similar vision and didn't know what it meant. It was brown almost black blood.
Sex is still the crisis.
Death too.
We avoid both in bad ways
Another rich episode! Thank you for naming shame as (sometimes) a weapon (of, I would add, patriarchy's dark side).
Thank you. One of the best talks of Jung is on stages of life. If you have already not done a talk on that, please do so. We are indebted to you for sharing your wisdom. Somehow i believe that the way Jung could articulate about inner world, no other psychologist has reached that level of insight.
Yes, yes, yes. The rise of the Dark Feminine, and the observations on the state of male sexuality in contemporary culture are spot on.
These are my favourite podcats ever. Thank you!
Thank you! ~ Joseph
the dream at the end :
I'm feeling this : a woman who is feeling trapped in her family, the wounding is happening inside the kitchen so it's coming from within the structure, yet she is not allowed to express her feelings of deep pain/ suffering. it is "chocking her". the initial pains was from words she may have even said (mouth) but also from words she as recieved on a more etheric level ( nose breath intake) may be some guilt around these events, and they are blocking her life force (air, expression)
she is not allowed to bleed freely, to let the pain out properly, and her masculine side ( active, going outwards could be the key, but it needs to be from the archetype of the father, so authoritative action, not from that of a peer (brother friend) so she needs to have an integration of an Internal strong, safe, and grounded masculine that gives her ( as in she giving to herself) the space in order to feel but express her pain fully.
When I started to do shadow work I came to realisation that a whole new level of evil lives inside me. Capable of killing and having no regrets. Few days ago I had a dream where I was looking at myself in the mirror and I saw my evil smile with eyes full of rage, nasty and vengeful expression while I was applying a face mask on my face ... This dream actually revealed to me who I truly am and what mask I put on. When Jung said ''full potential'' I have a full understanding of what this means
14:00 cbt example of not working for a neurosis, phantasy resolving it
21:20 Projection, neurosis as an attempt
When Joseph was talking about the emphasis on niceness in the culture I thought immediately of Arthur Miller’s play “Death of a Salesman,” in which Willie Loman fundamentally confuses being liked with success even as his entire world crashes around him into confusion and then death. Now we have the competing social values of being kind and being nasty, aggressive, and destructive in fierce battle.
The demonization of male sexuality has probably messed with my growth and progress more then any other subject 😅❤
"The nobility of Men" - ❤
Coagulated blood is old blood. Coagulation takes a little time and the blood darkens as it dries and coagulates
This episode has helped me so much. I listened tI the threshold between thr realms episode and this one today and I feel as tho I am right in the middle of theDr two ppinnacle points. Feels good to be umderstood
And then there is neurosis of the liver. That's the worst kind. Just kidding great videos my friends.
Dream 51:04
Thank you so much! Do you have the transcript of the conversations?
No, sorry. We tried to create transcripts but found they required so much time editing that it was unmanageable.
@@thisjungianlife it's an awesome podcast anyways! ❤️🙏
What is the meaning of seeing and sitting with presidents I have this often ❤
King archetype wants to constellation. Communion with your inner emperor. That's my best guess.
I personally have found that still men have far more shame about their femininity than their masculinity. To me it seems we need to promote authenticity and respect for each other. Could you delve into gender more deeply in future podcasts?
I wonder if the blood is also a symbol/reference to her family i.e her "blood"