He’s Nearly 30 And Engaged To My Teen With Braces

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
  • Jean says her 17-year-old daughter, Cheyenne, was the all-American girl -- a cheerleader, track star and straight-A honor student -- until she began dating Josh, a 28-year-old divorced father. Dr. Phil takes a look at Josh’s history -- should Jean be concerned? (2213001)
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  • @marathonbleu
    @marathonbleu 16 днів тому +1223

    When she turns 28 she’s gonna realize just how weird this is

    • @judithmiller7308
      @judithmiller7308 16 днів тому

      Yep, GROOMED
      With his criminal record this sounds like the Mica Miller tragedy.

    • @cfietz2010
      @cfietz2010 16 днів тому +17

      Absolutely!!

    • @NH-tb2sm
      @NH-tb2sm 16 днів тому +67

      By the time she's 28 he will have dumped her already.

    • @nastybigJim
      @nastybigJim 16 днів тому

      She is 26-27 now I found her on Facebook she’s married to someone else and has kids edit also on her wedding pic with her mother he mother appears to have had a stroke.

    • @RindaJane
      @RindaJane 16 днів тому +46

      ​@@NH-tb2smmost definitely. At 28 she will be too old for him. Sick 😫

  • @CJ-tf5yd
    @CJ-tf5yd 16 днів тому +857

    My father would take this guy to another planet.

    • @andreajones886
      @andreajones886 16 днів тому +14

      as he should!💯

    • @blueberrymarie908
      @blueberrymarie908 16 днів тому +15

      I as a mother of a young lady would 1000% be under the damn jail happily

    • @andreajones886
      @andreajones886 16 днів тому +5

      @@blueberrymarie908 now,it turns out jail has a basement,okurrr?

    • @blueberrymarie908
      @blueberrymarie908 16 днів тому +2

      @@andreajones886 some of them do 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @shilohivy4590
      @shilohivy4590 10 днів тому +1

      Same

  • @morgandubie
    @morgandubie 16 днів тому +992

    Citing your favorite color as having something in common is the most childish thing I’ve heard in a long time hahahah

    • @lindz916
      @lindz916 15 днів тому

      Yeah she is much less mentally and emotionally mature than a typical 17 year old. I'd bet money she had some type of mental disability.

    • @nikirrae8495
      @nikirrae8495 11 днів тому +20

      I couldn’t even control my reaction when she said that lol. Like wow, so deep.

    • @morgandubie
      @morgandubie 11 днів тому +3

      🤣😂 right?!

    • @McKelT
      @McKelT 10 днів тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @klz9500
      @klz9500 8 днів тому +6

      😢 but what's your favorite color? I need a bestie

  • @lauramclaine504
    @lauramclaine504 16 днів тому +839

    The concerning thing with her is, she’s not even mature for even a 17-year-old. She’s more like a 12-year-old and for her not to be concerned about his past marriage, abuse, and the fact that she would be a stepmom to a child that’s not even hers at such a young age hopefully he’ll let her go to college so she can grow up.

    • @mimiruss8444
      @mimiruss8444 16 днів тому

      College doesn’t make you grow up for most of these kids. It just makes them stupider.

    • @jilliangrannon1939
      @jilliangrannon1939 16 днів тому +37

      He is just as immature. Like he seems slow AF. She's also slow and doesn't see it.

    • @SinFinkleflor
      @SinFinkleflor 16 днів тому +11

      predators like that

    • @marylamb9708
      @marylamb9708 14 днів тому +24

      @@jilliangrannon1939 She's an honor student.
      He's deliberately keeping her a child as part of his grooming.

    • @s.k.m.8756
      @s.k.m.8756 14 днів тому +21

      I agree. Her emotional development is not at par for a 17-yr-old.

  • @mari_e2676
    @mari_e2676 16 днів тому +300

    Playground and stuffed animals? This feels so off.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 днів тому +5

      Very off.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +1

      Not necessarily if she likes to go there and hang and adults do like stuffed animals but it would be different if she was an adult and they did those things

    • @tedmccarron
      @tedmccarron 30 хвилин тому

      Women in their 30s have their boyfriends and husbands push them on the swings on the playground sometimes and they consider it very romantic and sweet. Grown women will also get teddy bears on Valentine's Day so there's nothing wrong with that.

  • @neurodivergentautie
    @neurodivergentautie 16 днів тому +590

    Chris Hansen & Steve Wilkos, Where Are You?

    • @jet4653
      @jet4653 16 днів тому +14

      Yes! Steve is awesome

    • @sweetsjohnson8573
      @sweetsjohnson8573 16 днів тому +5

      Ok where y'all at 😮

    • @YoutubeUser-mb2oz
      @YoutubeUser-mb2oz 15 днів тому +3

      Don't play that game here, in a few months when she's 18, none of this is going to be relevant.

    • @buzzzzzz69
      @buzzzzzz69 15 днів тому +12

      ​@@UA-camUser-mb2oz
      You mean when she's about to give birth to his baby & he's nowhere to be found so her parents have to look after her & her unwanted child.

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому +1

      Tell me about it!

  • @kathconserv
    @kathconserv 16 днів тому +520

    She has the mental clarity of a 10 year old and he a 9 year old.

    • @julielasater2448
      @julielasater2448 16 днів тому

      You're giving these two idiots way too much "age" on them for acting like toddler! I would have said maybe 2 or 3!

    • @The_Food_Police
      @The_Food_Police 6 днів тому +1

      Maybe they're made for each other then 😂

    • @rrrealqueen
      @rrrealqueen 5 днів тому

      "But His favorite color is orange and i like oranges! My favorite gumpack is flavored that"

  • @gailwebb9619
    @gailwebb9619 16 днів тому +412

    This creeps me out for lots of reasons……he is WAY too old for her and she is very immature for 17. She talks like she is around 12.

    • @deroffene-fenster-wahnsinn1326
      @deroffene-fenster-wahnsinn1326 11 днів тому +11

      I thought the same thing. She's acting like a child and she also looks younger than 17.

    • @ginmill5280
      @ginmill5280 8 днів тому

      @@deroffene-fenster-wahnsinn1326is she autistic? I am,she acts and talks like she’s on the spectrum

    • @DavidThomas-me6pi
      @DavidThomas-me6pi 8 днів тому +2

      Were YOU a virgin at 17?

    • @gailwebb9619
      @gailwebb9619 8 днів тому +4

      @@DavidThomas-me6pi Why are you asking such a question?

    • @DavidThomas-me6pi
      @DavidThomas-me6pi 8 днів тому +2

      @@gailwebb9619 exactly. So you were not a virgin at 17 but you want her to be?

  • @chriseggleston7573
    @chriseggleston7573 16 днів тому +419

    He will not allow her to attend college. Nope.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 днів тому +28

      I can guarantee u, she will not be allowed to go to college If she stays with him. He would get in the way of her building a future for herself.

    • @clittle10301
      @clittle10301 7 днів тому +9

      A pervert I know who’s done this doesn’t want his victim to go to college. I bet she doesn’t go.

    • @deeboy84gradybaby24
      @deeboy84gradybaby24 4 дні тому +3

      Right he won't want her to wake up and find someone her own age

  • @wotintheworld
    @wotintheworld 15 днів тому +259

    The playground for a first date with a child, that's a stomach curdling thought.

    • @tedmccarron
      @tedmccarron 27 хвилин тому

      I've seen women in their twenties and thirties have their boyfriends push them on a swing, nothing wrong with that!

  • @puddysue
    @puddysue 16 днів тому +420

    She isn't even mature enough to think up a good lie when she needs it.

    • @amybess
      @amybess 14 днів тому +2

      That's a teenager for ya
      Also, this episode is old

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +3

      @@amybesswhen I was 17 I could come up with a better lie

  • @SASunflower07
    @SASunflower07 11 днів тому +203

    This is one of the reasons why Dad's are important.

    • @meowy4720
      @meowy4720 5 днів тому +2

      Why did you spell "dads" with an apostrophe?

    • @NickatYouTubeSucksJK
      @NickatYouTubeSucksJK 5 днів тому

      Why isn't there more shame for women who reproduce without a committed father?

    • @traviswilliams3366
      @traviswilliams3366 4 дні тому +2

      @@meowy4720clearly a typo relax wtf lol

    • @saoirsew7215
      @saoirsew7215 4 дні тому

      @@traviswilliams3366lol

    • @sucks2bthem
      @sucks2bthem 4 дні тому

      Yup, too bad so many men don't agree

  • @oliviawalter5583
    @oliviawalter5583 8 днів тому +104

    This was aired in 2014. She is married and has children with a different man

    • @TheLauratkd
      @TheLauratkd 5 днів тому +14

      Where did you find this information?!

    • @analisaacosta974
      @analisaacosta974 4 дні тому +13

      This was the comment I was looking for! Thank God for that!

    • @oliviawalter5583
      @oliviawalter5583 4 дні тому +16

      @@TheLauratkdI dug deep onto Reddit and found her Facebook lol

    • @oliviawalter5583
      @oliviawalter5583 4 дні тому +13

      @@TheLauratkd her name is Cheyenne Kiona Martin

    • @TheLauratkd
      @TheLauratkd 4 дні тому

      @@oliviawalter5583 Send a link?

  • @songbirds3712
    @songbirds3712 16 днів тому +247

    She is very immature!! After watching and listening to her, she comes across as 15, not 17!

    • @ameliajoel6427
      @ameliajoel6427 16 днів тому +34

      I was thinking 12

    • @songbirds3712
      @songbirds3712 16 днів тому

      @@ameliajoel6427 I’m good with that!

    • @Kira7London-Spencer
      @Kira7London-Spencer 15 днів тому +20

      I was more mature at 14 than this. I'd say she's 11 or 12

    • @songbirds3712
      @songbirds3712 15 днів тому +5

      @@Kira7London-Spencer definitely! She has a lot of growing up to do if she wants to live peacefully in this world!

    • @s.k.m.8756
      @s.k.m.8756 14 днів тому +1

      @@ameliajoel6427 I was thinking the same thing.

  • @BobbieXxoo
    @BobbieXxoo 15 днів тому +218

    His son is 5 years old…. 2 years from being 7…. the AGE he met HER!!! This is sick on way too many levels!!!

    • @lonewolfclique1815
      @lonewolfclique1815 13 днів тому +10

      His son is 15 now this episode aired 10 years ago . I wonder if there is an update on them.

    • @amandalidey329
      @amandalidey329 9 днів тому +1

      She's young enough to be his daughter.

    • @lanceneol865
      @lanceneol865 2 дні тому

      ​@amandalidey329 so he had a kid at 11? Lol it's bad but it's not that bad

    • @valentinacoral3959
      @valentinacoral3959 6 годин тому

      @@lanceneol865no, I don’t think that’s what he meant. The kid is now 15, probably had his kid in his early 20s

  • @YourDarksideGuide
    @YourDarksideGuide 13 днів тому +88

    She doesn’t act her age at all which makes it worse she acts like she’s 12.

  • @artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886
    @artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886 16 днів тому +163

    What does a 28 year old have with a 17 year old... answer: nothing... not a thing. If that were my daughter, I'd have the cops on speed dial.

    • @user-cg9zq4bt5q
      @user-cg9zq4bt5q 16 днів тому +2

      Why not every calibers you own?

    • @noraxbeth
      @noraxbeth 16 днів тому +7

      They could have things in common. Mentorship can be good for kids if they share a common ambition. This is NOT mentorship, this is gross. I wonder why he isn’t interested in women his own age… 🤢

    • @citizenken7069
      @citizenken7069 16 днів тому +1

      HECK YEAH!!!!

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 16 днів тому +2

      Just one thing, and he'd be after it.

    • @joywebster2678
      @joywebster2678 16 днів тому +2

      As an adult I met and married a man 6 yrs older than me. I quickly noticed that age, and experience difference. His friends were guys and their wives another 5 yrs older than him. So my friends and their new husband's bored him as too young and inexperienced. It was ok initially, but he really wanted a wife with years of housekeeping, and cooking experience. I worked fulltime, stabilized our finances, and learned how to cook, yes there were errors, he wasn't very patient.

  • @ashleygilliland4331
    @ashleygilliland4331 16 днів тому +145

    He’ll be worse when she wants to go to college.
    She’s 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies.

    • @filthiestfish
      @filthiestfish 16 днів тому

      She's 27 or 28 now

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel 16 днів тому +9

      I disagree. The sooner we teach girls about babies the better they can think through the hormones and emotions rather than succumbing to jealousy or the biological clock. Teach them the responsibilities, the lack of sleep, the pain, the sacrifice, the gross outs, the giving of your time and body to another BEFORE they start looking at boys and you'll see less teen pregnancies.

    • @LeFrenchGuy101
      @LeFrenchGuy101 15 днів тому +10

      ​@@Undomaranel that's not what they mean.... they mean having a baby.

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel 15 днів тому +1

      @@LeFrenchGuy101 Exactly. Teach girls what having a baby really means before hormones hit and some guy wants to knock you up.

    • @ashleygilliland4331
      @ashleygilliland4331 14 днів тому +4

      @@Undomaranel that’s not at all what I meant!
      **What I meant is that she should be thinking about college, jobs, settling down, etc. before having a baby.
      What makes you think it was about what you brought up?

  • @gloryakiepper7918
    @gloryakiepper7918 16 днів тому +208

    Go to college and when you graduate see if you still feel the same way.

    • @YoutubeUser-mb2oz
      @YoutubeUser-mb2oz 15 днів тому +1

      The reason older women don't feel the same way is because of competition, they feel competition from younger women.
      If she's married and settled down she won't feel the same way as sorority girls.
      It's just mate guarding behavior from older women.

    • @gloryakiepper7918
      @gloryakiepper7918 15 днів тому +15

      @@UA-camUser-mb2oz what are you talking about ?

    • @buzzzzzz69
      @buzzzzzz69 15 днів тому +8

      ​@@UA-camUser-mb2oz
      I think you may have watched a different video.
      Your comment is completely irrelevant to this one.

    • @simonezuri8303
      @simonezuri8303 15 днів тому +11

      @gloryakiepper7918 Yes, please let her go to college and wait until in her twenties to decide if she feels the same about him. Sometimes space is needed between 2 people and if meant to be they will end up together.

    • @gloryakiepper7918
      @gloryakiepper7918 15 днів тому +3

      @@simonezuri8303 I agree . I did not like him. The age of his girlfriends on the line
      at 17. He gets older but the age stays the same.

  • @klz9500
    @klz9500 8 днів тому +21

    Too many people insulting the girl in these comments. This isn't about her, she's been groomed, abandoned and abused. This is about her desperately clinging to something she doesn't have, and a creep taking advantage of her.

  • @alyssameyer7261
    @alyssameyer7261 16 днів тому +118

    He seems very immature for being 28. Not just for dating a child, but the way he talks. And I’m in no way shape or form saying that makes it okay for him to date a CHILD. He’s just all around not right….

    • @alyssameyer7261
      @alyssameyer7261 16 днів тому +16

      “Both our favorite colors are blue. She likes to go fishing and so do i”
      Like okayyyy

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel 16 днів тому

      Which is the common denominator between pedos/ MAPs/ whatever you want to call adults attracted to minors. They seek people close to their mental interests, not their physical development.

    • @iheartdates
      @iheartdates 10 днів тому

      @alyssameyer7261 I totally agree with you. I’d venture to guess he has a developmental delay.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому

      @@alyssameyer7261fishing can be something to bond over but I’ve never seen people do it over a color

    • @danniifan3115
      @danniifan3115 17 годин тому

      If she were 21 & he was 33 it would still be a bit weird but better than the current situation of 16 & 28. She's still a child & he should keep well away.

  • @sammieg8641
    @sammieg8641 16 днів тому +103

    Why isn’t he in jail

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +5

      If she’s the age of consent and depending on the laws with that there’s probably nothing they legally can do

    • @melissahelen88
      @melissahelen88 6 днів тому +5

      didn't they say he tried to drown his ex-wife? he should be underneath the jail for that..

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 6 днів тому +3

      @@melissahelen88 did they find evidence he did it? Maybe he served jail for that

  • @kristenkaz3080
    @kristenkaz3080 16 днів тому +92

    She’s an honor student? Of what? A nursery school?

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому +2

      🤣

    • @D-Fens_1632
      @D-Fens_1632 7 днів тому +6

      It doesn't take much these days.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +5

      U can be book smart but not street tho just because mentally she’s not 17 doesn’t mean academically she’s not smart

  • @patsysoyars4435
    @patsysoyars4435 16 днів тому +61

    This child is to young to even start to have a clue. Very immature and it's disgusting for him to want to be with a child

    • @Eric_Bassett
      @Eric_Bassett 8 днів тому

      lol 17 year olds in 2024 have a clue pat, do you live under a rock ? The issue here is she’s WAY too young for him. But if this was say 2 teens together then that would be acceptable.

  • @ashleymarks3726
    @ashleymarks3726 16 днів тому +120

    birth control for cancer control?? the science ain't scienceing 🤣🤣

    • @queenbee3647
      @queenbee3647 16 днів тому +6

      Estrogen is a notorious troublemaker. You dont feed your cancer Estrogen! I have a reproductive cancer. Ive had several protocols tried, including radiation. Right now my doctor has applied Progesterone. Its working.

    • @karahupp4589
      @karahupp4589 15 днів тому +6

      I know. And the funny thing was she said her doctor just kept asking and asking and she finally gave in and started the pill to just shut her up. She made it sound like the doctor was showing up at her house and calling her all the time:

    • @TheAllyathome
      @TheAllyathome 14 днів тому

      @@queenbee3647she doesn’t have cancer. Cruciferous vegetables, edamame beans, linseeds are all proven to reduce risk of estrogen based cancers. OCP to prevent cancer 👀 it ain’t ‘sciencing ‘

    • @ktown8139
      @ktown8139 12 днів тому +6

      @ashleymarks3726 • Regardless of the reason she chose to go on birth control, let’s just feel relieved and pleased she’s using it. He completely steamrolls her so if she was relying on him using condoms, I doubt he would use them.

    • @texassaxet4893
      @texassaxet4893 11 днів тому

      "women who use the birth control pill have a slightly increased risk of breast, cervical and liver cancer"

  • @LindaEckertBallard
    @LindaEckertBallard 15 днів тому +56

    I got married at 17 to a 24yo - I was too young to make that kind of decision. He promised me everything and "Love Bombed" me and now older can recognize. There is NEVER a situation that a older individual grooming children ... he is a pedo and will train her to be a gr8 housewife/cook/clean/raise children/ etc ... but at some point she will find out she does not know everything or even anything :(

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому +3

      Sorry to hear about your experience.
      Thanks for sharing!

    • @deadbeats4417
      @deadbeats4417 11 днів тому +2

      that's not exclusive to age, lots of men my age are the same with their same age gfs

    • @Rara-lc4ip
      @Rara-lc4ip 3 дні тому

      How is 17 and 24 a big deal ??? Men are naturally way more immature then women so I think 24 and 17 isn’t a big deal

    • @LindaEckertBallard
      @LindaEckertBallard 2 дні тому +3

      @@Rara-lc4ip 17 yo can not give consent that is the difference

    • @ilsev6511
      @ilsev6511 2 дні тому +1

      What's wrong with being a housewife if it's your own choice?

  • @breezeh1127
    @breezeh1127 15 днів тому +36

    Please don't stop trying to get your daughter away from this guy. Especially with his background. My 19 year old cousin became pregnant with her 30 year old boyfriend's baby and mysteriously ended up dead. He was returning the baby stuff the next day and texting women during her funeral. Please get her away. If it feels off..it is!!

    • @Crissa42082
      @Crissa42082 15 днів тому +4

      Oh my I’m so sorry

    • @ItsWAWGaming
      @ItsWAWGaming 8 днів тому +3

      He did it, and not only that he's a serial killer clearly.

    • @jessicaatkins3173
      @jessicaatkins3173 7 днів тому +1

      Wow 😢

    • @ItsWAWGaming
      @ItsWAWGaming 6 днів тому +1

      I'd have this investigated thoroughly with him as a prime suspect, he clearly knows what happened and probably did it.

    • @chloedion
      @chloedion 4 дні тому

      oh my god, was there ever an investigation if you don't mind me asking? that sounds like something police would at least look into.

  • @wendydomino
    @wendydomino 6 днів тому +8

    "We were just friends". Why was a man of that age friends with a teenager? I won't even accept friend requests on games that have a lot of young players because it's inappropriate for me as an adult to have them on my "friends list". You shouldn't have even been friends.

  • @rosiered3403
    @rosiered3403 16 днів тому +41

    She's like a 12 year old.

  • @sl1102
    @sl1102 8 днів тому +17

    “He took me to get birth control because I heard it prevents cancer.” 😮‍💨

    • @gingercake6645
      @gingercake6645 6 днів тому +2

      Apparently it can help reduce the risk of ovarian cancer, but it can also increase the risk of breast and cervical cancer, but we all know the real reason she's taking it.

    • @TheLauratkd
      @TheLauratkd 5 днів тому +2

      Tell her that when she has his babies 👶

  • @SWUploads971
    @SWUploads971 5 днів тому +9

    What's more werid is that this relationship is legal in 39 states

    • @lilnoodle02
      @lilnoodle02 5 днів тому

      She’s going to be 18 soon. At that point you can be with anyone you want despite their age. Even if you all disagree and think it’s disgusting, it’s legal and clearly not that wrong or it would not be LEGAL. if nobody is being forced into anything .. why is everyone else so inclined to give their unwanted opinion. 😑

  • @D-Fens_1632
    @D-Fens_1632 7 днів тому +12

    Honestly the age difference became irrelevant after seeing his past crimes. That should have been the intitial dealbreaker.

  • @JackSimple-xw1ng
    @JackSimple-xw1ng 16 днів тому +114

    17 is of legal age in many states (in fact 16 is in some states). What's concerning is not the 10 year age difference - it's the fact that he allegedly abused his ex-wife. Yet people are ignoring that and just focusing on age.

    • @carcar97
      @carcar97 16 днів тому +27

      Of course, but the age difference is still concerning. Why does a 30 years old want to be with a 17 years old fresh out of high school girl? It’s one thing if the age gap was between too much older people. In this case, it is abnormal and strange regardless of how legal it is. And says a lot about him.

    • @BreAunnaElliott23
      @BreAunnaElliott23 16 днів тому +27

      17 may be legal age of consent but it’s still weird for a 30 year old to be dating a high schooler.

    • @kirbyhatesincels917
      @kirbyhatesincels917 16 днів тому +28

      Stop defending predators. Anyone under 18 is a child whether you like it or not. He is obviously predatory.

    • @CJ-tf5yd
      @CJ-tf5yd 16 днів тому

      That is absolutely a concern. She is 17. What is wrong with you? It’s not 30 and 40. Are you a child molester as well?

    • @jessday.
      @jessday. 16 днів тому +20

      "We met when I was 6. Then we reconnected when I was 16."
      Yeah, I find that to be highly concerning.

  • @andreajones886
    @andreajones886 16 днів тому +37

    "check my forehead...did somebody write stupid on there?"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @cindycurry246
    @cindycurry246 16 днів тому +87

    If she was 28 and he was 39. This would not be a problem. But what I have a problem with is he tried to drown his ex. That’s a huge problem. Birth control does not prevent cancer. In some cases of cancer birth control and make it worse or accelerate the cancer.

    • @violetmanson5514
      @violetmanson5514 16 днів тому +14

      She’s 17 so yes its different then being 28 vs 38 try again tho 😂

    • @juicysmith38235
      @juicysmith38235 16 днів тому +3

      ​@@violetmanson5514 try again to NOT be an internet troll ...

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 16 днів тому +1

      That's still gross.

    • @dianericci8369
      @dianericci8369 15 днів тому

      Nobody believes she's taking birth control because it prevents cancer.

    • @breezeh1127
      @breezeh1127 15 днів тому +6

      Or maybe that he met her at age 7 and came back to date her and kept a relationship with her secret after that. This is planning and grooming.

  • @pdig2963
    @pdig2963 16 днів тому +71

    So this recording is from 2014. I wonder if they're still together ?

    • @nastybigJim
      @nastybigJim 16 днів тому

      No they aren’t she’s married to another man last name Martin they have kids. Her mother had a stroke and is in a wheelchair now sadly.

    • @Omar_Zazzle
      @Omar_Zazzle 16 днів тому +18

      I hope not.

    • @wotintheworld
      @wotintheworld 15 днів тому +14

      My pedo ex turned really nasty after I turned 17, I'll bet he left once she womand up.

    • @MaiaMendez12
      @MaiaMendez12 15 днів тому +7

      @@wotintheworldyes !! My pedo ex left me before I turned 18. He got scared I think but our situation was different because it was secret
      But yea maybe I was becoming too woman for him

    • @joestetz8325
      @joestetz8325 15 днів тому

      Even michael Jackson booted them all after age 11. It's a real pattern with chomos

  • @user-wt4bf6qw2o
    @user-wt4bf6qw2o 16 днів тому +21

    If her father was in her life this most likely wouldn’t happen.
    This girl is so immature for a 17 year old… This is SO CREEPY. He is a predator and I’m sure can’t get a woman his own age so he finds a little girl. 🤮

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому +4

      He don't want a woman his own age. He wants a kid he can take to the playground and control!

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +1

      U know it can still happen right

  • @nicksery791
    @nicksery791 16 днів тому +27

    Can you not get a restraining order?

    • @Undomaranel
      @Undomaranel 16 днів тому +6

      They could, but it would likely turn him into a martyr in her eyes.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому

      He hasn’t done anything that we’re aware of to her so can she really?

  • @dohner29
    @dohner29 16 днів тому +63

    This episode aired 10 years ago can we get an update on these people lol. Did he kill her? Did they have kids together?

    • @RS54321
      @RS54321 16 днів тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @monadrake755
      @monadrake755 12 днів тому +36

      No. She married a man named Tony Martin and has two kids now. Josh married a woman named Crystal.

  • @robhayes7155
    @robhayes7155 11 днів тому +29

    If she was my daughter, she wouldn't be dating him. I'd be waiting for parole.

    • @falkwulf3842
      @falkwulf3842 4 дні тому

      All I have to say is go back through your own family tree. Child marriages were common back in the 1970's going all the way back to biblical times. I guarantee someone in your family tree married a child bride. And without that marriage you would not be here today.

  • @lee4094
    @lee4094 16 днів тому +50

    Where is that girls father ??????!!!! This person is extremely creepy… father any male figures where are you?????

    • @Dontgiveafabouturfeelings
      @Dontgiveafabouturfeelings 16 днів тому +9

      With his other family

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +2

      @@kimkaragiannis848u know when children with the most loving of families can fall victims to things right

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому +2

      @@kimkaragiannis848 I mean not having a parent figure will automatically make u a victim of something tho she should’ve been taught signs of grooming regardless of of who she lives with

  • @pennyk1943
    @pennyk1943 8 днів тому +9

    My parents had 11 years apart and my in-laws 12. But the difference is they met and married when the ladies were in their twenties not in elementary or middle school!

  • @rebeccab6009
    @rebeccab6009 16 днів тому +10

    If she was older and more mature she would realize that him trying to drown his previous wife is a solid no for dating him. She will be abused, it just how long will she will put up with him. For the love of God do not have a child with this man!

  • @vickieself4762
    @vickieself4762 15 днів тому +19

    I was this girl back in 2005 at 17 years old. I spent almost 14 years of my life and my entire adult life with that man until about 4 years ago. He was controlling, manipulative, jealous, demeaning in order to get his way, etc. I’ve been on my own now for just over 4 years, I’m 36 years old now, and it’s hard for me to have a relationship with another man, bc I’ve become so selfish after spending so many years with a man whose wants and needs were always put over mine, I just want what I want at this time and do not have the ability to compromise. Even though I’m not with him anymore and have a happy stable life, that relationship still has effects me to this day. I wish o could tell this young lady on stage the big mistake she’s making.

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому +1

      You don't have to compromise.

    • @BlackChambermaid
      @BlackChambermaid 10 днів тому +2

      ​@@RescueAlwaysOfficialyou always have to compromise if u want companionship. Romantic and platonic. I think what OP meant is that she is so scared of losing herself again that she put up walls. It's hard to go back to normal and if u come out of an abusive relationships u have to even learn what normal is. Not being able to compromise is not a good thing and shows the damage her abuser has done.

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 10 днів тому +1

      @@BlackChambermaid are you American? Asking because I think if you were you would understand what I mean.
      Of course you always make compromises dealing with anyone- regardless of the type of relationship. I mean compromise more as in "settle".

    • @BlackChambermaid
      @BlackChambermaid 10 днів тому +2

      @@RescueAlwaysOfficial If you meant settle it does make sense. But why are u asking if I am American?

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 10 днів тому +2

      @@BlackChambermaid because I figure an American would understand what I meant because of how we speak. 🤣

  • @adiroseschierbaum6445
    @adiroseschierbaum6445 9 днів тому +6

    At my prom there was a strict rule on guests, if they were older then 21 they couldn’t attend

  • @Lynnda86
    @Lynnda86 16 днів тому +16

    I so wish someone had told me this at age 15, 16, 17, 19, & 21... my life would've been SO different. 😭😭😭💔

    • @kristenkaz3080
      @kristenkaz3080 16 днів тому +2

      But at that age would you have listened? That’s the hard part.

    • @savedbygrace6108
      @savedbygrace6108 7 днів тому +2

      So many people would say the same thing. We need to Trust God to help us move forward❤️🙏🏼❤️

  • @PhnxI3
    @PhnxI3 11 днів тому +15

    Mentally she’s 9

  • @MsDana-mo9fp
    @MsDana-mo9fp 16 днів тому +37

    He is losing his hair already! When she gets 30 - he will be using a walker & she will walk away!

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT 16 днів тому +5

      28 is actually the age that most men start losing hair, but I've even seen people in high school with hair loss. It's not age related. It's simply genetic. There are men in their 80's who have more hair than young men in their early 20's.

    • @jenniferesser8249
      @jenniferesser8249 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@TheSixthSLoT
      😇💜 Loosing your hair also IS due to wearing hats and mainly wearing baseball hats.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT 16 днів тому +9

      @@jenniferesser8249 That's a myth.

    • @kathconserv
      @kathconserv 16 днів тому +2

      How does a 40 year old man need a walker?

    • @mariahoulihan9483
      @mariahoulihan9483 16 днів тому +4

      what..using a walker at 42.. get your facts straight. he's 'nearly 30 now' ie 29.. that is 12 years older than her. I am not saying this is right. but your talk of a walker at that age is unusual.

  • @Beautyinthebreakdown.
    @Beautyinthebreakdown. 12 днів тому +6

    If a man hurt one woman, he’ll hurt the next. Speaking from experience.

  • @isaacmettle
    @isaacmettle 16 днів тому +27

    HECK NO!! I’m 44 and got had to deal with a 17 year old. NO WAY!!(not worth the headache)IT WONT LAST!! Before she hits 25 I GUARANTEE she will want out

    • @KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza
      @KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza 16 днів тому +5

      You dated a 17 year old? At what age? Come on and speak out with it bud 😡

    • @callanightshade8079
      @callanightshade8079 16 днів тому

      Age of consent in their state was 17 at the time

    • @mimid6354
      @mimid6354 16 днів тому

      The problem was you not her, believe me.. what did you think you would get from a barely legal teen? Creep. A man going for a woman that young is looking for someone they can run game on an manipulate - of course they want out by 25, because they realise how creepy the elder man they are with really is and that the man is no more emotionally or mentally mature than she is. Facts… a man that is mentally mature would want someone who can mentally stimulate him, unless he has no mind to stimulate. That tells me all I need to know

    • @SuzanneGoins1981
      @SuzanneGoins1981 16 днів тому +1

      Each U.S. state has its own general age of consent. As of August 1, 2018, the age of consent in each state in the United States is either 16 years of age, 17 years of age, or 18 years of age. The most common age of consent is 16, which is a common age of consent in most other Western countries.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT 16 днів тому

      ​@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza Ohhhhh, we've got a big man over here! Look out, he's got an emoji XDXDXD

  • @katiecampbell9191
    @katiecampbell9191 9 днів тому +4

    There is no way they have anything in common. I’m 30 years old. That guy is just a pervert. Period.

  • @MrSuperchargeron
    @MrSuperchargeron 16 днів тому +13

    I remember when I was a senior in high school there was a girl in my class that got engaged and married a cop. I don't think it lasted long...

  • @Usedw0tm8
    @Usedw0tm8 12 днів тому +4

    My former best friend did this... she stayed on Skype or calling 24/7 because he lived in Wales and they eventually got married after meeting in person like...4 times. They were EXTREMELY codependent and moved WAY too fast.
    They are now divorced because she cheated.
    This is your future, Cheyanne.

  • @captainsasquatch824
    @captainsasquatch824 15 днів тому +35

    Can we get an update on this trainwreck?

  • @LLOOYYYDD
    @LLOOYYYDD 8 днів тому +4

    *She'll see him for what he is when he dumps her after she's 21 and then goes after another child*

  • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
    @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому +1

    I love the way Dr. Phil is "handling" her!

  • @RKB74
    @RKB74 7 днів тому +6

    all the other points aside (and there are DEFINITELY problems with this "relationship" and it's criminal in most civilized societies, as it should be)...shame on Dr. Phil for shaming the girl for taking the RESPONSIBLE step of getting on birth control. That's the ONE smart thing about what she's doing! The only thing that could make this tragic, criminal "relationship" even worse would be for a child to come out of it...she'll hopefully grow out of this nonsense and be able to go on with her life...with an unwanted pregnancy coming from this mistake--especially now that the US is a country (along with Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia) where girls are forced to give birth to unwanted pregnancies, even those from rapes--her life would be permanently ruined.
    Lock the dude up, tell the girl she's nuts...fine. But do NOT ridicule her for being responsible about birth control.

  • @mom2jsh
    @mom2jsh 11 днів тому +6

    This was 10 years ago. I wonder if they're still together ... I'm banking on them having split up after she matured.

  • @patricias5122
    @patricias5122 16 годин тому +2

    Wait, this Josh guy was arrested for a violent crime? Why doesn't his probation officer send him back to prison?

  • @mrgreenav1091
    @mrgreenav1091 16 днів тому +21

    What in the Drake is this?

  • @PowerHouseWrestling
    @PowerHouseWrestling 16 днів тому +7

    When I was growing up the cops probation officers, the courts they took care of business. Now it’s like they don’t even wanna be bothered by this stuff.

  • @warwolf88
    @warwolf88 16 днів тому +17

    he's seems like he's a bit of a groomer

  • @natalie9884
    @natalie9884 16 днів тому +22

    A lot of this boils down to parenting styles/parenting in general.

    • @puddysue
      @puddysue 16 днів тому +5

      Not always.

    • @puddysue
      @puddysue 16 днів тому

      I apologize... in this case, you are correct!

    • @LHP069
      @LHP069 15 днів тому +3

      Most of the time it’s the lack of a father in the home, she’s looking for love in a father figure

    • @RescueAlwaysOfficial
      @RescueAlwaysOfficial 13 днів тому

      I don't know. You can't control these teenagers sometimes!

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому

      Not necessarily people can be victims/ trash people even when they came from loving homes

  • @Samira87333
    @Samira87333 16 днів тому +9

    She's going to find a boy her own age in college and then this guy will try to unalive her like his ex.
    That's if he doesn't knock her up before she even has the chance to go.

    • @nancymorris995
      @nancymorris995 15 днів тому +2

      Yeah, I can totally see him trapping her with a pregnancy. There’s no way he’s on board with her going off to college.

    • @monadrake755
      @monadrake755 12 днів тому

      This was 10 years ago. She married a man named Tony Martin and has two kids now. Josh married a woman named Crystal.

  • @gigis731
    @gigis731 16 днів тому +8

    Unfortunately she is at the legal age of consent so calling the police will do nothing.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 7 днів тому

      Apparently in the state the show is filmed it’s not at least according to dr Phil but idk what state they’re in

  • @user-zd8kq2uu5y
    @user-zd8kq2uu5y 8 днів тому

    We need an update on this story!!

  • @arferret
    @arferret 8 днів тому +3

    Child grooming 101 right here. So disturbing.

  • @Cruella_DG
    @Cruella_DG 16 днів тому +13

    Way way beyond creepy

    • @falkwulf3842
      @falkwulf3842 4 дні тому

      All I have to say is go back through your own family tree. Child marriages were common back in the 1970's less common in the 1980's but still went on, start with the 1980's go all the way back to biblical times. I guarantee someone in your family tree married a child bride. And without that marriage you would not be here today.

  • @aAngel93
    @aAngel93 13 днів тому +4

    Teen girls take my advice because I care about our youth if an older man tempts you into relations or in a relationship with him RUN RUN RUN to your mom and away from him

  • @grachisol8236
    @grachisol8236 9 днів тому +2

    They’re not together anymore. She’s married some guy named Tony and has 2 kids now.

  • @alexandravatavuk3796
    @alexandravatavuk3796 15 днів тому

    Dr. Phil is spot on!

  • @brendasnow8255
    @brendasnow8255 16 днів тому +4

    She’s 17 now, which their state may allow, but he groomed her when she was younger. There is a legal complaint.

    • @monadrake755
      @monadrake755 5 днів тому +2

      She’s 28 now. This was filmed a long time ago

  • @jessicakilby1678
    @jessicakilby1678 15 днів тому +4

    When she hits 30 she will realise the damage this has done. Unfortunately she won’t be able take it bk 😞

  • @user60521123
    @user60521123 6 днів тому +2

    The best thing the mom can do is make sure she graduates HS and goes off the college. Once she at college and meets boys her age-he’ll be history.

  • @melissadanielle629
    @melissadanielle629 День тому +1

    I feel so bad for her, I was the same way as her. I grew up so fast that I ended up dating much older than myself. She seems like a good kid I hope she finds inner happiness

  • @nattyl2070
    @nattyl2070 8 днів тому +4

    He wants someone he can easily control!!!

  • @ericbogar9665
    @ericbogar9665 4 дні тому +2

    Elvis, do you think it's appropriate for a 25 year old to date a 14 year old? Elvis: Everybody in the whole cell block
    Was dancin' to the Jailhouse Rock

  • @bolotabr12
    @bolotabr12 5 днів тому +1

    Someone once said don’t worry about the 30 years old woman because everyday somewhere a girl turns 18. 🙄

  • @puddysue
    @puddysue 16 днів тому +3

    He's also not "with it" enough to come up with a lie... a believable lie.

  • @llunaeldas8055
    @llunaeldas8055 16 днів тому +5

    I'd have him arrested.

  • @AshlynTeague
    @AshlynTeague 4 дні тому +1

    The last update on this pair is from 2019. She and Josh separated and she got engaged to a new partner 1 month prior to Josh getting engaged to a new... Victim, which may or may not be a coincidence. It seems that she moved on, atleast.

  • @mimimonster
    @mimimonster 13 днів тому +1

    I want an update on this story soooo bad

  • @rachelpadilla9368
    @rachelpadilla9368 16 днів тому +4

    There’s no doubt that she will out grow him, But she’ll probably have a couple of babies by then, so she’ll never get rid of him.

  • @lmbscriptsharcs2044
    @lmbscriptsharcs2044 16 днів тому +13

    Creepy!

  • @texastreat8721
    @texastreat8721 15 днів тому

    Dr. Phil is so right.

  • @blueberrymarie908
    @blueberrymarie908 16 днів тому +2

    Wonder what ever happened with them ? So disturbing

  • @brandyb2931
    @brandyb2931 15 днів тому +5

    She is book smart but is very naive. I don't think she has had any experience with boys her age which is why this has been so easy for him. If she ever decides to do anything for herself besides focus on him that threatens his control over her, he will treat her the same way he treated his ex. She doesn't grasp that he is seperating her from her support systems like her friends and her mother. She thinks its love. She doesn't understand its abuse. I would be interested in the update of these 2 in 5 years. Its probably gonna take awhile for her to get out of this.

  • @georgiabelle5176
    @georgiabelle5176 16 днів тому +3

    He is not as smart as she. She will outgrow him quickly if he doesn’t harm her first

  • @franklydarling....7244
    @franklydarling....7244 4 дні тому +1

    Who writes these titles?
    What the heck do braces have to do with anything?! He's dating a teenager!!!

  • @vickieself4762
    @vickieself4762 15 днів тому +1

    I started sneaking around and talking to my BIL’s cousin when I was just 16. When I was 17, he was 28, I had literally “fallen in love”, and told my parents. They objected but knew I was months away from 18 and they wouldn’t be able to stop me. My mind was made up. He was controlling and possessive the more serious things got, and I ultimately didn’t have any friends my age anymore. I moved into his house after graduating HS at 18. I ended up not going to college bc I knew he was concerned that I would meet someone better than him and didn’t want to deal with the drama of him constantly accusing me of cheating. When I was 20 we had an unplanned pregnancy, she is 15 years old now and is my one and only child bc I didn’t want to being another child into the world bc he was so selfish and I did almost everything for our daughter myself. After spending almost 14 years together when my daughter was 10 years old, I realized I couldn’t take it anymore. I’d lived under his thumb my entire adult life and didn’t have anything for myself, nor any support. And it took me that long to leave a man I need to say good for me b/c he did everything he could to make me believe I could not take care of, and provide for my daughter and myself on my own. At about 32 y/o I left that house that I helped pay for and make into a home for almost 14 years with nothing but my truck and our clothes. Stayed on my moms couch for about 5 months and finally by Gods grace a house that I could afford with a gf of mine who just separated with her husband, our daughters were best friends so we all moved into the house together, and slowly but surely and only by God’s grace after 4 years my daughter and I live in this house by ourselves now and have been for 3 years, and life is pretty good. But I allowed that man to rob most of my adult life and this young girl is about to do the same thing.

  • @shybearr
    @shybearr 16 днів тому +8

    This has to be a joke?💀

  • @RyneMurray23
    @RyneMurray23 3 дні тому +1

    This is so damn creepy. He gives her gifts. They are already planning to have one child. He's grooming her

  • @megankerins
    @megankerins 5 днів тому +1

    This poor poor girl. Failed by both parents and running to the first "safe" adult she finds.

  • @ember13dp
    @ember13dp 13 днів тому +5

    I mean, why does the "with braces" matter 😂

  • @jeannietimberger2556
    @jeannietimberger2556 12 днів тому +6

    Just wait till she gets a little older and he shows less interest in her and more interested in other 17 year old girls. He's messing her up mentally.

  • @cleliaparnell8743
    @cleliaparnell8743 6 днів тому +1

    She has that teenager "know it all" attitude but her smirk was wiped away when she heard some facts.

  • @andreajones886
    @andreajones886 16 днів тому +3

    Josh be resembling Channing Tatum a little

  • @margipinto7925
    @margipinto7925 16 днів тому +4

    Is there an update on this case?

    • @angiebirdwell7069
      @angiebirdwell7069 16 днів тому +6

      According to my research on Google and instagram, they aren’t together anymore

    • @sylviaguerrero9794
      @sylviaguerrero9794 16 днів тому +4

      She left him after a couple of months. She moved on married someone else and had a baby.

    • @simonezuri8303
      @simonezuri8303 15 днів тому

      What?! Did she not go to college?

    • @margipinto7925
      @margipinto7925 12 днів тому

      @@sylviaguerrero9794 thank you!

  • @Only1Los
    @Only1Los 4 дні тому

    Wasn’t the doctor that kept asking, it was him hounding her about it. When you tell a doctor no to meds they’re not gonna keep asking.

  • @KMF3
    @KMF3 6 днів тому

    Well over 40 years ago I was 17 and my boyfriend was 24. He was the father of my child when I was 20. We ended up breaking up when my son was around 9 months old. My son is now 41. So glad I have him. Best thing that happened to me.