Have just ordered one of these. Will be using my bike to pop into our local town, I see plenty of £300-£400 bikes locked up with £5 cable locks, so I'll park where they all park. My bike will be the last one to get nicked👍
Great video! One thing to consider is how locks can wear over time. Dirt and grime buildup can make it harder for the locking mechanism to engage fully, especially on older locks. This actually happened to me with an OnGuard armored cable lock I had for several years. After a while, it wouldn't fully engage the bolts. I couldn't get it to click shut properly, and it would sometimes slip out of engagement. I'm not sure if something broke internally or what caused it, but luckily, OnGuard was very helpful. This is a good reminder to check your lock regularly for proper engagement, especially if it's a few years old. Here's a tip: Make sure both ends of the U-lock (or shackle on a cable lock) are fully seated in the locking arm. A crooked insertion or misalignment might leave one side unsecured. To check this, try gently pulling on the U-lock after it's locked. If there's any give, double-check the engagement. While pulling won't stop bolt cutters completely, it's a good way to identify a potential weakness. For extra security, some U-locks have a slight resistance when fully engaged. Try giving it a little twist to see if it budges. If you notice your lock isn't engaging properly, register it with the manufacturer (most offer replacements) and consider getting a new one. Remember, a U-lock with a cable lock provides even more security for your bike.
This only demonstrates why the thief used a different tactic to overcome the weakest aspect of the unit, rather than trying to use cutters on the one strong component. They may have used a car jack in the span to wedge the shackle away from the bar where the mechanism itself failed.
IF they had locked it up correctly, through the rear wheel and frame, there is NO ROOM to get anything in there. My guess is they locked it up in a way they could flip the bike around and make it break. It's a cheap Lock! I am only here because I bought a similar lock (same brand) but newer as it is now 2020. Just waiting for it to arrive. It was $14.97 and I'm in the burbs and just need something for the 2 times I actually need to lock it.
@@TexasAxeSlinger "IF they had locked it up correctly, through the rear wheel and frame, there is NO ROOM to get anything in there." A light bulb just lit on top of my head! :) Thank you
@@bootsowen manual cutters is a wrong tool to use though, hydraulic cutter is much smaller, concealable, exerts much greater pressure and has cheap replaceable blades
I know this is 5 years later, but the model he tested against was the much thicker on guard brute. This is the onguard bulldog, which is thinner and would defintley be defeated by those cutters. Still a decent lock for the price.
*Nice lock for the price.* The other channel used the hydraulic cutter and failed too ! The lock manufacturer can increase the security by wrapping the lock core into a thick cut-proof fiber tube, so that it can not fit into the cutter without any other work. This will prevent the evil people from trying. We need better bicycle locks on our planet. This one might be a good start.
I agree with you on the cutting part, but remember that this lock was recovered when my friend's bike was stolen from outside my house! We presume that the lock was forced or burst open, rather than cutting. So maybe it is not so safe. We need a world where we don't need bike locks!
Yeh you're full of shit grinders go through these in 10 seconds. There are security pros on here doing locks tests and grinders go through even the best ones!
If a lock resists those huge bolt cutters it is more than enough just because thieves never pick and no one resists an angle grinder, it doesn't matter how expensive, wide or hardened it is.
First sensible comment on here! I agree, real thieves never pick. The grinder is just a matter of time but the bolt cutters is on or off, it either will or won't cut it!
Si, pero una amoladora hace mucho ruido y muchas chispas, y algo que no quieren es llamar la atención. Seguridad 100% no existe. Asi la metas dentro de un bunker, va a haber una bomba que lo atraviese
I'm saving you time and effort: 14mm of hardened steel can only be cut with the largest bolt cutters, that it, the 42 inchers. It is an extremely difficult job, as you need weight and the right momentum to push that handle down again and again until the link snaps. With those bolt cutters you can cut links up to 15mm, beyond that, (16mm and over), it is impossible
I cet you man,Ican only dream of having them also as they are not imported to my country and if they did,they would cost around 400 euro at least.The ones you have are lookalikes of the Irwin Record.They have to be either Eclipse of Faithfull.@@bootsowen
42" HK Porter ($150), 42" Klein ($213) and 42" Ridgid ($184) at Home Depot has maximum hard metal cut at 1/2". This lock at 13mm is at the very highest of its maximum but this shackle is made of ultra hardened steel. 4,000 pounds pressure may not be enough and the shackle can do so much damage to the blade of a real expensive bolt cutter. Ruining a $200 bolt cutter's blade may not be worth the trouble for a bike (probably cheaper) that you or may not get. Don't forget that thieves want to be sneaky and not be so obvious by carrying a huge 42" bolt cutters around. A bike thief should pass and look for another easier bike target unless it is some real fancy expensive $1,000 bike where the risk is worth it.... I have 3 bikes and lots of locks including on-guard bulldog, kryptonite NY u-lock, kryptonite NY noose chain lock, etc. and I do feel confident in my on-guard but if I was in high theft area or locking my $900 mountain bike anywhere, I definitely use the heavier, more expensive kryptonite (9 out of 10 security) locks. I do use my on-guard u-lock for my cheaper bike because it is much lighter and actually has larger shackle than my kryptonite NY u-lock.
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
I don't know, it was my friend's bike robbed from outside my house, either it was forced by twisting the bike frame against the pole to which it was locked to pop force the lock, or it wasn't locked correctly in the first place.
Ese candado es de poco milímetros de espesor por eso lo cortó, ,el candado tiene que ser de 14mm para arriba de buen acero , para ser difícil o imposible cortar con cizalla manual o hidráulica
It's only a 2 pin lock, most likely bike had its front wheel removed and spun in the air from the back wheel using lever force to distort the lock until one of the 4mm pins gave and then reassembled the bike to ride off, quite common, vids are on youtube. Still pretty good hardening, would poss defeat a hydraulic cutter too.I would guess if she had 2 of these she would still have the bike as the thief was tool-less. Irony this lock resists tool attack well but succumbed to hand attack! Most detemined thieves have angle grinders now , its on the london police channel, 3 of these would be good, maybe 4? Cost £50? Hopefully his battery goes flat before he gets your bike free!
Big clue... IF it is on display blah blah blah. My two theft deterants are, riding a $100 Kmart bike and... It never leaves my side/sight.... Not sure how i would go in the Netherlands. Maybe no one steals bikes cause everyone has them?
It seems to me that the thickness of the brace at the Bulldog castle is 11-13mm, is not it? It seems to me that this is an ONGUARD BULLDOG LS lock, the thickness of the bracket is 13 mm.
Hahahah nope that is far away from being the best bike lock in the world for and example kryptonite and abus makes some of the best bike locks in the world. And im not saying that onguard locks are trash i mean they have some good opinions too.
Think it will. Be more difficult. If done It. Like a thief... AND. In public?? , cuz. U R. Asleep. When at. Night? ... Just a waste of. Time. When do. It at. Night. Right?!
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Have just ordered one of these. Will be using my bike to pop into our local town, I see plenty of £300-£400 bikes locked up with £5 cable locks, so I'll park where they all park. My bike will be the last one to get nicked👍
Where about we’re these expensive bikes locked up with cable locks?
Great video! One thing to consider is how locks can wear over time. Dirt and grime buildup can make it harder for the locking mechanism to engage fully, especially on older locks. This actually happened to me with an OnGuard armored cable lock I had for several years. After a while, it wouldn't fully engage the bolts. I couldn't get it to click shut properly, and it would sometimes slip out of engagement. I'm not sure if something broke internally or what caused it, but luckily, OnGuard was very helpful.
This is a good reminder to check your lock regularly for proper engagement, especially if it's a few years old. Here's a tip: Make sure both ends of the U-lock (or shackle on a cable lock) are fully seated in the locking arm. A crooked insertion or misalignment might leave one side unsecured. To check this, try gently pulling on the U-lock after it's locked. If there's any give, double-check the engagement.
While pulling won't stop bolt cutters completely, it's a good way to identify a potential weakness. For extra security, some U-locks have a slight resistance when fully engaged. Try giving it a little twist to see if it budges.
If you notice your lock isn't engaging properly, register it with the manufacturer (most offer replacements) and consider getting a new one. Remember, a U-lock with a cable lock provides even more security for your bike.
This only demonstrates why the thief used a different tactic to overcome the weakest aspect of the unit, rather than trying to use cutters on the one strong component. They may have used a car jack in the span to wedge the shackle away from the bar where the mechanism itself failed.
IF they had locked it up correctly, through the rear wheel and frame, there is NO ROOM to get anything in there. My guess is they locked it up in a way they could flip the bike around and make it break. It's a cheap Lock! I am only here because I bought a similar lock (same brand) but newer as it is now 2020. Just waiting for it to arrive. It was $14.97 and I'm in the burbs and just need something for the 2 times I actually need to lock it.
@@TexasAxeSlinger "IF they had locked it up correctly, through the rear wheel and frame, there is NO ROOM to get anything in there." A light bulb just lit on top of my head! :) Thank you
@@TexasAxeSlinger you found an onguard bike lock for fifteen dollars?? what model number??
Good video showing the strength of the steel 💯
I have posted a more recent video in my cutting bike locks playlist where I open one like this with a hammer!
I was just waiting for it to cut and the off cut shoot into the side of your van!
It is amazing how tough it was, if it shot off it would have made some dent!
I bougth one of this on a garage sale, just for 8 dollars, it works fantastic!
Brand new is $20 on ebay. Its the best lock I use it all the time, my bicycle never gets stolen
Lockpicking Lawyer has a video on these. He ruined the jaws of his hydraulic bolt cutter on the hardened steel. But he can pick the lock.
I think I ruined the jaws of my manual bolt cutters. They cost a fortune to replace.
@@bootsowen manual cutters is a wrong tool to use though, hydraulic cutter is much smaller, concealable, exerts much greater pressure and has cheap replaceable blades
Fortunately most crackheads can't lockpick.
I know this is 5 years later, but the model he tested against was the much thicker on guard brute. This is the onguard bulldog, which is thinner and would defintley be defeated by those cutters. Still a decent lock for the price.
I'm reassured by this, I've just ordered the gold standard one from the same maker
David: Is that the Onguard 8001 model? it's half the price over: krypto ny, abus 540 & seatylock p 300. Any good?
@@roostermagma32 i got the mastiff chain and the 8001 brute
Ram driver can break the housing off and they are extremely easy to pick.
It's not bad but I would go bigger
Thanks for this. That's really strong! The only thing that would get through that is a hydraulic cropper. Thanks.
*Nice lock for the price.*
The other channel used the hydraulic cutter and failed too !
The lock manufacturer can increase the security by wrapping the lock core into a thick cut-proof fiber tube, so that it can not fit into the cutter without any other work. This will prevent the evil people from trying.
We need better bicycle locks on our planet. This one might be a good start.
I agree with you on the cutting part, but remember that this lock was recovered when my friend's bike was stolen from outside my house! We presume that the lock was forced or burst open, rather than cutting. So maybe it is not so safe. We need a world where we don't need bike locks!
Yeh you're full of shit grinders go through these in 10 seconds. There are security pros on here doing locks tests and grinders go through even the best ones!
Until an angle grinder shows up....
if you dont want your bike nicked, two locks - the onguard Brute is pretty good for one of them ... pretty cheap too
Yeah, put a brand new pair of 42 inch bolt cutters on that. Not some dull pair that's obviously too small.
He lacks the strength of a opioid addict.
I really do!
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If a lock resists those huge bolt cutters it is more than enough just because thieves never pick and no one resists an angle grinder, it doesn't matter how expensive, wide or hardened it is.
First sensible comment on here! I agree, real thieves never pick. The grinder is just a matter of time but the bolt cutters is on or off, it either will or won't cut it!
Si, pero una amoladora hace mucho ruido y muchas chispas, y algo que no quieren es llamar la atención. Seguridad 100% no existe. Asi la metas dentro de un bunker, va a haber una bomba que lo atraviese
What differance does it make if it cuts or not, bike still got stolen.
I think you would cause more damage to the bike using the method you exhibit. Most probably some hydraulic bottle jack was used to pop it out.
Possibly, who knows. It was a shame, because this was a friend's bike!
most ulocks lasts 5 seconds if you use a long tube to twist the ulock against the locking post/pillar/frame/whatever. its u locks fatal desing flaw.
What long tube
You can adjust the bulk whoppers, so they’re not so wide apart
Good old bulk whoppers
I have that one. Its a freaking beast.
The thing is , nowadays most thieves cary a battery powered grinder with a pack of wheels ..
yes
It looks like they don't' need so must trouble :) They open it without bolt cutters.
I'm saving you time and effort: 14mm of hardened steel can only be cut with the largest bolt cutters, that it, the 42 inchers. It is an extremely difficult job, as you need weight and the right momentum to push that handle down again and again until the link snaps. With those bolt cutters you can cut links up to 15mm, beyond that, (16mm and over), it is impossible
Who needs bolt cutters when you could just twist the bike and the locking mechanism will pop open
What is security level?..
He used a bottle jack to force it
Use the 42" Irwin Record bolt cutter and if it survives again then we can call it cutter proof.The 30" will not work on this lock.
If only I had a 42" bolt cutters!
I cet you man,Ican only dream of having them also as they are not imported to my country and if they did,they would cost around 400 euro at least.The ones you have are lookalikes of the Irwin Record.They have to be either Eclipse of Faithfull.@@bootsowen
My blue ones are old record, before irwin came along, but the jaws are a bit worn now.
42" HK Porter ($150), 42" Klein ($213) and 42" Ridgid ($184) at Home Depot has maximum hard metal cut at 1/2". This lock at 13mm is at the very highest of its maximum but this shackle is made of ultra hardened steel. 4,000 pounds pressure may not be enough and the shackle can do so much damage to the blade of a real expensive bolt cutter. Ruining a $200 bolt cutter's blade may not be worth the trouble for a bike (probably cheaper) that you or may not get. Don't forget that thieves want to be sneaky and not be so obvious by carrying a huge 42" bolt cutters around. A bike thief should pass and look for another easier bike target unless it is some real fancy expensive $1,000 bike where the risk is worth it.... I have 3 bikes and lots of locks including on-guard bulldog, kryptonite NY u-lock, kryptonite NY noose chain lock, etc. and I do feel confident in my on-guard but if I was in high theft area or locking my $900 mountain bike anywhere, I definitely use the heavier, more expensive kryptonite (9 out of 10 security) locks. I do use my on-guard u-lock for my cheaper bike because it is much lighter and actually has larger shackle than my kryptonite NY u-lock.
what onguard was it?brute?and only got a quick shot of you croppers..the jaws looked a bit shot
brute has gold standard
Looks like the pitbull
@@JoseFerreira-qh1pd no it's not the Pitbull (sold secure gold) for sure. It looks more like the Bulldog (silver) to me.
No, Brute is a lot stronger than this lock.
this was not the brute for sure
Nice! thanks
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
The steel is tempered. just get a blow torch. Heat a spot till it goes red then cut. It will go through like butter
Yes, but it is difficult to do that when you are stealing a bike on the street, not a real theft test.
Why not go the whole hog and use a portable oxyethelene cutter, laser or high pressure water cutter.
as one guy say earlier just cut the part of the bike and repare them before.
Hay q probar el Napoleón con un hombre más grande y fuerte no tan delgado para que sea completa la evidencia
The lock is left from the stolen bike ??? How did the thieves manage to open the lock?
I don't know, it was my friend's bike robbed from outside my house, either it was forced by twisting the bike frame against the pole to which it was locked to pop force the lock, or it wasn't locked correctly in the first place.
It the lock was twister for sûre it will bends the bar..while hère this is not the case
I think tour friend didnt properly lock his bike
They probably had a similar key and managed to open it these commercial locks have almost identical keys
@@elmundir she.
@@michealangel1556 if its truth its brutal flaw in security.
Ese candado es de poco milímetros de espesor por eso lo cortó, ,el candado tiene que ser de 14mm para arriba de buen acero , para ser difícil o imposible cortar con cizalla manual o hidráulica
is that a bull dog onguard 13mm?
Erick R. Yes
I got one so hope my bike is secured now :) like
Bolt cutters. Won’t cut it ! Use a wireless grinder , spinning the frame will break the locking mechanism . Best use 2 dlock stop frame being moved
It's only a 2 pin lock, most likely bike had its front wheel removed and spun in the air from the back wheel using lever force to distort the lock until one of the 4mm pins gave and then reassembled the bike to ride off, quite common, vids are on youtube. Still pretty good hardening, would poss defeat a hydraulic cutter too.I would guess if she had 2 of these she would still have the bike as the thief was tool-less. Irony this lock resists tool attack well but succumbed to hand attack! Most detemined thieves have angle grinders now , its on the london police channel, 3 of these would be good, maybe 4? Cost £50? Hopefully his battery goes flat before he gets your bike free!
Send it to LockPickingLawyer so he can use the hydraulic cutter on it.
The LPL tried and it didn't work out
lpl's all around trouble breaking and picking one of these onguards is what made me buy it
@@fallback8314 lpl didnt have problem picking that lock...
Что это за модель или названия ?
Big clue... IF it is on display blah blah blah. My two theft deterants are, riding a $100 Kmart bike and... It never leaves my side/sight.... Not sure how i would go in the Netherlands. Maybe no one steals bikes cause everyone has them?
I got 2 of my bike stolen with this lock. I don’t know how the fuck people do it. I’m still looking for the person that sole it lacking.
my shackle won't get that hard
How thick of the lock shackle? Please
~10mm
It seems to me that the thickness of the brace at the Bulldog castle is 11-13mm, is not it? It seems to me that this is an ONGUARD BULLDOG LS lock, the thickness of the bracket is 13 mm.
1:50 of talking jesus christ
What do you want? 1:50 of silence?
@@bootsowen damn right
El ladron pudo forzarlo usando palanca con dos llaves de apretar tuercas o enfriandolo con aire a presiòn
Have you ever tried that ?
Kryptonite is overated
Kryptonite is an expensive premium brand
Cut the piece of bike its wrapped around fix the break.....done
hahahaahahhaa sounds good for me.
Best lock in world =)))
Except for the fact that the bike had been stolen.....
Hahahah nope that is far away from being the best bike lock in the world for and example kryptonite and abus makes some of the best bike locks in the world. And im not saying that onguard locks are trash i mean they have some good opinions too.
I want that to be the end of the story, but there are hydraulic bolt cutters.
hammer for a u lock 2 seconds
You sound like you steal bikes
Maybe the thief picked the lock and thats also why you cant put the key in
I'm not sure that that is how lock picking works, but you might know more than me.
Tell her to buy a kryptonite u lock can't go wrong
Have a look at my video about cutting a kryptonite lock. I wouldn't rely on one.
Wrong angle
Get a bigger bolt cutter
Think it will. Be more difficult. If done It. Like a thief... AND. In public?? , cuz. U R. Asleep. When at. Night? ... Just a waste of. Time. When do. It at. Night. Right?!
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Whats means kkkkkk in brazil? Вы задыхаетесь hahaha?
@@dombree563 "kkkkk" its like hahaha, jajaja, rsrsrsrs, huashuashua, oaspkoaspk(?), hehehehe, hihihihi, kakakaka, shuashuashua, lol (?) and i dont know more
Romperia uma veia no cérebro dele.