Ghost in the Shell- Sniper Scene (Saito)
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Ghost in the shell scene where Saito acts as a mercenary and supposedly shoots Matoko's special forces United Nation's team due to the fact they are carrying a nuke, although it's very sketchy and possible just a story due to the fact it was said to throw people off in a poker game.
Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG, Episode 14
The song at the beginning is From the Roof Top, starting at about 2:00, and then Flying Low, with Torukia playing during the Scene with the major and Saito's stand-off (there are several songs called Torukia by the same cast, and this one is a Chorus vocal).
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In the grim darkness of the far future, there are no smoke grenades.
Budget cuts
+SWAG POLICE Story of the USMC in a nutshell.
Oorah, Mattis, and Budget Cuts.
Nobody bought them at the start of the round. Fucking cardboard tier soldiers we got here.
***** SMOKE GRENADES ARE MY TRIGGER
***** Stripping and running at the enemy seems to be Motoko's schtick.
Must be a banzai thing.
"A SNIPER! TAKE COVER!"
*takes off helmet two seconds later*
Vector Vent Gotta love the Majors logic
Vector Vent maybe so the sniper is tempted to shoot her instead of her men.
If you consider that a ballistic helmet is almost useless against a shot from an elite sniper rifle
helmets don't protect against any round larger than 9mm, they are mainly used to protect from shrapnel
You take helmets off to hear better.. :f
the key to fighting a sniper is removing an article of clothing, one at a time.
begin with your helmet, work your way to the harnesses, then eventually your shirt. that way all those clothes don't impede your movement. that's what I learned from this video
It is all about style man, you either fight looking good, or die looking good. (Although I serious doubt about the "die looking good" part)
battlefield tactics 101 3 to 5 second sprints are easier with less on.
Guys in Afghanistan are manning mortars in underwear man, clothing doesn't protect as it is.
They should make bulletproof full plate armour, with the plates made of kevlar or something
EggiTheShadow I think we already do have.
"Thinks he's bloody Rambo" XD
The British dub voices here are even better than Hellsing
I really loved the brit soldiers in this episode I was sad when they got killed. D=
@@xgenesysx thanks for Spoiling !
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Mate.
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@@ahsenkhan5386 YOU LITERALLY WATCHED THE VIDEO
@@ahsenkhan5386 THIS VIDEO
"The key to surviving on the battlefield isn't courage or weapons, it's caution."
"There's no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole." ;)
***** maybe so. I just wanted to post a relevant quote...
***** Who are they?
John Smith Yeah but the purpose for you being on the battlefield isn't survival, it's commander's intent. Mission completion requires both tactical knowledge and creative intuition. Minimalizing casualties to meet go/no go requisites for actions on the objective doesn't always mean the cautious answer.... it means weighing your risks and rewards to come to the most logical answer. Does that make sense?
Caution doesn't win battles, and neither do survival instincts. In fact, the purpose of military training is to create muscle memory that counteracts the fight/flight survival instinct in humans. That way troops on deck will respond immediately with violence of action and conduct battle drills instead of freak out and go fetal.
In other words what i'm trying to say is I don't like the phrase lol caution sometimes gets people killed because they are too timid to make risky decisions.
Cole Lawton Well, caution is not the same as fear. When the opportunity presents itself, you need to attack. It's about taking calculated risks and acting when you absolutely have to.
But, in theory, caution isn't about not acting, it's about knowing when you act. Proceed with caution isn't necessarily the same not proceed at all, but proceed with tact. You can be cautious without necessarily being slow.
However, I do see your point. xP
Ah yes
Just how I learned in Basic.
"If under fire from a sniper, first thing you need to do is take off your helmet."
Real american SOP is to level the entire city block if you find a sniper and wait until afterwards to do a celebratory strip tease
🤣🤣
to be fair, helmets are for shrapenels and small arms fire, it's unlikely to do anything for a sniper rifle. Not impossible but unlikely. Plus it's white which sticks out like a sore thumb
@@otakuattacku8885 that is why you use the helmet on a stick so the sniper can shoot it giving away it's location because of the gun flash
@@otakuattacku8885 There are times helmets have saved lives do you know why? Easy answer, Ricochet just because it's not enough to protect from a high power load doesn't mean it couldn't ricochet.
This scene has a slight "Full Metal Jacket" feeling to it.
+Taras Shevchenko more like a Saving private Ryan one
+Lê Bảo Toàn No, this is way more like the FMJ sniper scene. Right down to "Mother" being a nickname and some poor son of a bitch getting his fucking Dick shot.
+Benjamin Goto not only that what struck me the most was the way the bullet impacts scattered all over the face of the desecrated building. Obviously a very FMJ inspired scene.
Never watched this show, is it any good? I just can't stand how fucking awkward the voice acting in most anime is, and this sequence didn't do much to impress me. .
+Benjamin Goto I seriously doubt that bullet went through his dick. It was right under the belt, on the left. No way one could have a dick up there.
Matthew Martin Subs, brother. Subs. Subtitles are the only way a respectable non-weeb can have the suspension of disbelief.
I love how self aware this episode was towards the end. "I saw this in a movie once with a similar plot".
"He thinks he's bloody Rambo"
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Kamiyama and his love for movies lol.
@@civilwarfare101 Queen Kong
@@fbi9490
What?
@@civilwarfare101 Did you watch the scene? One of the troops literally called Motoko "Queen King". The direct reference to King Kong is obvious. I do question the point of Motoko taking off her gear piece by piece was though...
That guy sure took his sweet fucking time rescuing his squadmate.
Too long, and he died because of it. He should have just grabbed the man under his armpits, lifting the head and dragging the body back to cover immediately.
@@Mikanojo >Known sniper threat
"Hey bro you good? Let me stand in the exact same spot you got shot in for a while."
Dead bodies attract...*drum roll* dead bodies
@Emularis It's not THAT bad...
Well that's the point, that's why he died.
Funny how Motoko casually undresses while relaying her plan.
why
Her whole body except the brain is artificial, she has been a full cyborg from a very young age, and she is one of the best and disciplined soldiers in the whole world.
She also has wild lesbian cybersex in her free time sometimes.
@@Ribbons0121R121 another reasons is most likely to make herself light footed since carrying a load of equipment cyberized or not makes it very difficult to move when your carrying around excess gear.
She's full cyber
I got to meet her voice actor once! Nice lady!
@2:55 this is exactly why 1. Medics are taught to stay behind cover until fire is neutralized. 2. To perform no interventions aside from a hasty tourniquet at the point of wounding. 3. To get away from the point of wounding ASAP. 4. Why modern combat medics don’t wear symbols denoting them as such.
Bruh it's an anime...
@@ManOfPillowDoom still a good lesson in what not to do.
This is pretty much after 2 world Wars, many thing have changed
But agree, these guys doomed themselves
Agreed.
1) The sniper was using .50 cal, the hip of that first man getting shot should have had shattered and exploded.
2) The whole squad doesn't have a single smoke grenade?
3) Shooting randomly at windows without knowing where the enemy sniper is isn't "covering fire", it is completely ineffective.
4) The sniper should have set up some kind of booby trap on the decoy sniper rifle.
Ik 4 years late lol, but just saying, the sniper he was using looks to me like a steyr scout, a light bolt action that's (usually) chambered in .308, not 100% on that but it definetly wasn't a .50 bmg rifle unless they've made up some .50 sniper rifle for this scene, but that wouldn't track because all the other guns drawn are real, accurate to their irl military service weapons.
5) If the army isn't Japanese, they act like an idiot.
@@Count_GustavThis anime makes American army look unprofessional and JSDF look alot cooler and smarter.
5) Its a cartoon. If it makes plot go, anything goes.
@@RestlessBogatyr yes
I watched this before graduating high school in 2006 and immediately after becoming an infantry Marine at the middle of the Iraq war with imminent sniper threats aside form IEDs. Whenever we went out and there was a sniper threat, remembering this scene gave me comfort some how. It's unrealistic entertainment, but Queen Kong will always be a bad ass. Too bad the clip was cut short.
Yeah, something about it was always really cool to me. It's also nostalgic for me, I remember watching it late at night with my brother at a family reunion. It was an interesting time and to see something so good out of nowhere floored us. I was hooked ever since
Sadly we haven't gotten anything this good since then. Let me know if you've got some recommendations @@everybodydothatdinosaur519
So how did Saito get into section 9 if he's an insurgent responsible for the deaths of numerous coalition personnel probably including Japanese forces during the War? Do they even know that it was him?
That's my question xD
It's because they have use of his skills
It may have well has been all bullshit, his story doesn't add up with the other character's backstories. It is after all a poker game story it's to fool the other players.
I think you answered your own question my friend.
I thought he was a mercenary.
SNIPER, QUICK TAKE YOUR HELMETS OFF!
+Ye Xia You're totally wrong, mate. If there is a sniper, doctrinally you must lie on the ground and take cover. The helmet can save your life even against a .308 depending the angle it hits you.
+Ye Xia It's common knowledge that most personnel protection gear aren't designed to protect from direct fire, let alone sniper fire, but there's a reason we wear them
+Drebolaskan The military gear like the helm is designed to protect against metal objects that coming from grenades and artillery fire.
Ye Xia well if a helmet is designed smartly it should not affect your view and besides helmets are supposed to protect you from dangers why would they wear the if they wouldnt help against anything.
It's funny how just about any Japanese military anime paints American soldiers as pigheaded and unprofessional, there is military doctrine for this exact situation. It is super interesting though, that they have a left handed sniper.
It's funny because WE train the JSDF, and some Japanese are kids salty about that
That exactly what i want to say. this anime makes the JSDF lot cooler and smarter.
Yeah we're the best trained military in the world with more cumulative combat experience than britain and japan combined. Dnno why they gotta make our soldiers look stupid.
@@brandonporter6223 you say that but then again look what happened with afghanistan. to be fair that spectacular incompetence was a direct result of the current president but still.
@@thatguybrody4819 Fair enough, but I'd say that the professionalism and skill of the individual soldier or squad level unit has very little to do with the poor decisions of leadership.
I remember I was in Chicago back like in 04 in the hotel. And this came on late at night. I watched the original Ghost in the Shell as a kid, but seeing this episode got me hooked. Then ten years later I ended up watching it again. Now I just happened to find this clip on UA-cam. Ha Crazy, but this scene has stuck with me for years since I saw it on adult swim the first time
"We're under fire, quick take off our helmets"
I love GITS so much. I had watched this first before ever hearing about saving private ryan. And just this afternoon I saw saving private ryan and their sniper stand off. I was thinking, "hey, i saw this somewhere before" and then i remembered GITS. I laughed, and then i started re-watching all of the GITS episodes because it made me want to watch it hahaha.
I saw the saving private ryan scene first, am just seeing this scene now 🤯
by watching this scene it looks quite terrible
Damn, I've never watched Ghost in the Shell, but they did my US Boys dirty with this one.
Yeah man they made us look like dumbasses. And we train the jdf too lmao.
@@brandonporter6223 jidf you mean
@@rhetoric5173 oy vey!
This is set in a world where Japan becomes the world's number 1 super power and America declined into a civil war.
@@brandonporter6223 The show constantly critiques the American empire. It's practically became even more relevant with American decline over the last decade.
For English dubbing, this is really well done tbh
Most english dubs are pretty good imo. Live action ones are usually the issue.
Because people actually cared
I am sorry to inform you, the dubbing is fine, but the translation is way off from the japanese original line. It has been a while but I believe the original line from major at 5:42 is "This guy is confident enough to challenge us with his sniping skill without GPS/satellite assist, if he is a true pro who even master the Coriolis effect on top of his head, everyone here will be killed."
Lol what? Just get out of here with your patronizing comment saying “fOr EnglIsH duBbInG, THiS iS rEaLly wElL dONe tBH” lol what kind of conceited comment is THAT as MOST English dub Anime have been excellent for the last 20 YEARS now. You people are the WORST way you talk conceited like this here. The entire English dub voice acting for this anime is nothing sort of phenomenal and outstanding. And not only that. Most to if not all English dub voice acting has been nothing short of the word fantastic since the past 20 years. This isn’t the 90s anymore where your anime English dub get any guy off the street anymore, just no far from it.
@@tarotaro6933 you will complain for things that has no fault. Sub elitist need mental help
to all the people wondering, this music is called "somewhere in silence".
My nigga
Much appreciation man, I was cruising through the comments looking for someone who knew it before I posted a request. I wish you much fortune in the upcoming 2017 year
Another black anime fan lol@@OOOoOOOAAAHa
Real Rolex watches actually have a sweeping second hand, not a ticking one. ;^)
"everything becoming electric, even Rolex”
Burt Kocain i spotted that too
Sniper prolly got it from a sketchy backalleyway for 50 quid
@@1911Zoey 50 quid? That's a bargain, guvnah.
Sniper is china man. He bought china made Rolex
The Full Metal Jacket inspirations are strong in this scene.
4:22 This operation will require the removal of my jacket (clishee).
Major Matoko: "You're good with that rifle you son of a bitch. From now on, you're mine!"
POV: nobody in the team memorized smoke locations, they are all running toward site A while bomb is at B
I still want this to be a series for every relativly major Section 9 member.
Anything special ops team worth their salt would deploy smoke. Pretty sure they were said to be special forces just to make this sniper character sound like he's good.
A sniper is firing at us? QUICK! TAKE OFF YOUR HELMETS!
+Gustavo Sanches Cause helmet will never stop a sniper bullet
DarkSerris
neither does (most of) bullet-proof vests and yet you don't see people running around the battlefield naked...
+DarkSerris That is actually a lie, not every sniper uses the same calibre round.
+Unirond Shirt Swag But many sniper rounds can rip through a helmet with ease, but then again, for the most part, it depends on the weapon and the ammunition being fored from it. Nowadays, sniper rifles and their ammunition can easily go through a helmet like that, and most bullet resistant vests (calling them bulletproof is really a bad term, that would mean the bullet will always be stopped by the vest, most vests are only resistant, though they still do provided adequate protection) but again, it all comes down to the weapon, ammunition, and protective gear.
Excalibro -Scorch
dude, I don't care if he is shooting with a 22 kid rifle or a 50 cal, I would still not take my damn helmet off. I think no one would. Also, if you are taking cover, the helmet might have a chance to bounce off the bulet.
If he knew they were going to come after his unmanned 20mm, then why not place charges so anybody checking it out gets taken out.
Placing a few claymores at the points of entrance is the oldest sniping trick in the book.
Can confirm from my time playing COD and Battlefield.
@@McGeistly I mean yeah they have cybernetics, so a claymore probably wouldn't work. But he literally has a camera watching the thing. A little C4 in the right places and a 20mm gun becomes a whole lot of nasty shrapnel, and he can just watch and wait for them to approach but not have time to inspect it.
A sniper would have made a trap there. It's there job to harass the enemy as much as they can. Hell even some home alone prank if he didn't have an explosive.
Motoko had the perk to see the clays through walls, so she avoided them.
"SNIPER GET DOWN" *immediately takes off head protection*
This series pays quite a lot of attention for details. you can see the US army, the SAS and the Japanese all using their own main rifle and strategies which are used in real life
Like how the us guys just wanted to level everything lol. Us airpower
the japanese arent allowed to have special forces in real life as per the treaty of world war 2
Standard tactics would be to pull out smokes in the direction you took contact from so the west and then pull your wounded back into cover then move out of the kill zone.
They did the exact opposite of what they should have done and show how good the Japanese attachment are.
@@koc988 concealment from smoke far enough in the future that soldiers have cybernetic enhancements and weapons might just not be any good anymore.
@@historys_sentinel1066 leveling the building was what you would do in real life. If a sniper is stupid enough to stick around after his position had been compromised, he deserves the BRRRR
this is one of the best EPs that I enjoyed, simple yet in-depth of story-telling about the relationship between the Major and Saito.
never even heard of this film before, but this began with my curiosity and by the end it had my attention. amazon here I come
Everybody Else: Sniper! TAKE COVER!
Japanese: Now it's time to strip off all of my protective gear becaus I am more intelligent than the rest.
Could be a calculated risk. After all, the sniper is looking for the cameo colors and patterns. The change might throw him off the microsecond he needs to notice the change. It's not looking like the stuff is helping anyway. Just a guess.
If you know you're under "Sniper Fire" you should never allow anyone to expose themselves even to allow your Medic (or Corpsman depending on which branch of service you're in) to care for the wounded. You don't know where s/he is but he sure does know where you are.
The best way to deal with a sniper is stay under cover and wait for heavy armour, that or use your own Sniper to locate and kill him/her.
That's assuming you're fighting in a well organized, conventual War zone with organized command and good intel on all of your troop placements. See the US prefers airstrikes in these situations but thats extremely expensive. For a less wealthy army, the answer may very well have to be triangulation, elimination and then neutralization of the actual sniper. That's why they call it the art of warfare and not the science of warfare. There is no 100% guaranteed way to succeed in any situation because anything could go wrong at any point.
@@reaverfang377 dude they have a fucking tactical nuke
How the hell do they not have some sort of ISR if not air support?
@@amistrophy Not talking about this fictional armies, I was saying for poorer IRL armies. Idk whats going on in this fictional army.
@@reaverfang377 the tactic against snipers has always been Artillery. For the US it might mesn 105mm howitzers or 500 lb bombs. For a poorer force it means 120mm mortars, heavy machine guns, and RPGs.
The art of warfare has changed. Everything getd fucked over by explosives these days. Artillery is the king of battle for a reason.
@@amistrophy I was under the impression it was still airstrikes, did they change it or?
Damn, Kakashi has turned into a badass sniper.
Shout out to the algorithm pulling a post from 7 years ago onto my recommendations
God this isn't how people would act in any combat scenario, especially when dealing with snipers.
I don't care what technology you have or what TV show you're in, Ghost in the Shell is trying to take this seriously but everyone's reactions (yes, I know some of them are robots) are surreal. "This is not how you act in a combat situation. This requires caution."
It sounds like I'm watching an episode of Rescue Heroes.
Well, if a sniper purposefully wounds and avoids a killshot on one of your allies in the middle of the open, feel free to shout and panic and run to save his life and have the sniper's work done for him.
Until you've faced a professionally trained and experienced sniper in such a situation, I don't think you can really say how you're supposed to react lol.
+Aickavon the Techpriest pop smoke and cover fire move in a vertical position different form the previous point cover fire based on the wound received. Remove wounded and the starting point draws the most agro.
Aickavon the Techpriest
It's silly, but it's anime which is why. There's no real tension because all the real humans we empathize with are usually killed off first, then the robots just "do their job" and that's that.
"Why me?"
You'd be so annoyed if you were the first one to be snipered and everyone else was ok
Anime has a huge potential in making war movies or even war docu and yet they always need to blend in some fictional shit which ruins everything
+Alex Сheremisin You should watch the Waltz with Bashir.
+Alex Сheremisin You should watch the Waltz with Bashir.
Already did and it was amazing! But it is not anime
+Alex Сheremisin Think you've got it the wrong way round. This anime is "some fictional shit" with war blended in.
If you want realism in anime : stop. If you eant a realistic depiction of war, join the army.
The song at the beginning is From the Roof Top, starting at about 3:00, and then Flying Low for the end. xP
Also, the scene with the stand-off with the major's song is Torukia, although it's not featured in this video.
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@@everybodydothatdinosaur519 Technically it's "Somewhere in the Silence (Sniper's Theme)"; "From the Roof Top" is the first part of the track, which is another (jazzy) thing, but they're released as one track.
This song is one of the best in whole GitS SAC OST, pretty much all of Yoko Kanno's songs with Ilaria Graziano on vocals are superb. I especially like it because it's in a "gentle" variation of nu-breaks style.
Even though it is the song for a 2nd GIG episode, the track itself was released on Solid State Society movie OST.
@@cjnf11 Was this gentle variation of Somewhere in the Silence released somewhere? I can't seem to find it.
My question is why the hell did she take off her helmet?
Fan service.
Lorenzo Aguilar Visionary
Apparently, as a full-cyborg, helmets don't qualify! =/
Probably to shed weight and ensure her vision isn't impeded by it. Also there's no way it was going to defeat a shot from Saito's rifle anyway.
@@flashkirby101 6 years later:🤤 "UUUOOOGGHHH... SSEEEGGGSSSS....!!!"
This is exactly the same as full metal jacket
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Man, Kakashi's new jutsu is terrifying.
This scene already made me want to look up the entire series and watch it all.
Where did you learn when and how to use smoke grenades?
+Oscar Jeong It's mostly common sense. If you're pinned down by the enemy you conceal your position with a smoke grenade to prevent anyone from seeing you. If you know you have to move out of cover to rescue one of your guys or something valuable like say, a nuclear bomb, you provide concealment when you don't have cover. You also don't stand there all day taking 5 minutes to carry someone, knowing full-well you're standing wide out in the open to be shot.
+John Smith what if their modern technology made smoke unusable?
NoName Well, they used smoke in a later scene, and I doubt that would be the case. Even infrared can be blocked by adding additional particulates to the Aerosol, such as metal flakes.
+John Smith "Chaff", right?
+Flemme Werfer correct. It makes sensors all fucky and infrared becomes distorted
This is why snipers are hated by the enemy and, as they say, aren't often taken prisoner, or at least not for long.
Sees sniper and takes off her helmet (1:35)
Helmet wouldn't help much
CyberJellos See?
+IDKMYNAMEURGAY A sniper round would rip through a helmet like that, also, snipers mainly go for center mass, so chest and abdomen, a helmet against a sniper is pretty damn useless, especially with how powerful snipers are these days.
+IDKMYNAMEURGAY Not necessarily, depending on the caliber of the round, and also factor in what sort of helmet you might be using, usually a sniper's round can tear through a Kevlar helmet. Helmets are more for protecting your head from falling debris, and deflecting shrapnel rather than blocking bullets.
+Rick Garcia I'd say IIIA helmets are be somewhat bulletproof though
“Look out , a sniper just shot one of our guys!”
“Time to take off our helmets then.” 😂😂😂
The bullet of a sniper will penetrate your skull either way.
@@Mandrew_ people have literally survived grazing sniper shot because of the helmet there is even videos of it on UA-cam
need better reception for their cybernetic implants 😄
Having read Mr.Smith's huge essay about this scene's "rookie mistakes even infantry wouldn't make," as a former infantryman I'll tell you right now, I knew this was gonna be cliche hollywood action right away. How? Because we don't even walk that close together.
+AmericanJokerman What Mr. Smith essay?
Classic series! Highly recommended for those new to the franchise
2:50: instead of dragging him staying low. nope staying up high so sniper can spot you even more easily. Also he should stfu and start pull him from a safe place.
Calling Batou a rookie never gets old
Anyone else notice the sniper was voiced by the guy who did Kakashi in naruto
Okay, this is real friggin' reminiscent of the sniper scene from Saving Private Ryan.
The music in the series is so beautiful.
I like how nobody had a smoke grenade, to recover casualties.
This scene is really cool but any American leader in charge of a British SAS operator is going to at least be at his level. The US wouldn’t send anyone lower then tier 1 ( DELTA or SEAL TEAM 6) to command a unit like that. And Japan damn sure wouldn’t be anywhere close to involved 😂😂
SAS are the top tier standard for special forces and as the SAS train the seals I don't think they'd be at their level
Yeah.. seemed a bit demeaning to American Military.
@@-lightningwill-6014 SAS don't train SEALs, SEALs train SEALs. There's a common misconception for some reason that the SAS train every countries SOF teams (which is completely false). What they did during the 80s is help pave a way into how modern counter-terrorism operations are done. They have many other tier one counter parts around the world that they train with like Delta Force or GROM. The SAS are a highly talented group but don't think that just because they've had the most recognition that other units couldn't or haven't done similar feats before.
@@christopherbertoli7322 To be fair, if any country has good cause to develop anti-fallout/nuclear cleanup technology, it's Japan.
@@BluFor18 even then SEALS are not a Tier 1 unit im pretty sure they are tier 2 now DEVGRU is tier 1.
>Fires at moving target
>Doesn't lead the shot
>Shot hits anyways
0/10
+This_American Also, they don't make the logical assumption that the belltower is the most likely spot of attack.... this is kinda ridiculous.
+This_American they assumed that the sniper was with the jamming device. The guy on the computer said he had figured that there were three possible locations for the sniper to be.
+This_American I didn't get a good look at his weapon but some snipers do have a muzzle velocity that, depending on the distance ofcourse, could theoretically hit without leading the target.
tysej4 I'mma tell you this right now. No. There is no weapon on earth that leading is not a thing. It would need a muzzle velocity of like 20,000 m/s or something from only a quarter mile away for there to possibly be no need for leading, which is ridiculous.
+This_American Maybe his scope was sighted in for that exact range or so, with leading already in mind of a normal human pace. Although, that would be weird.
I love the Japanese portrayal of US soldiers lol. so far from the truth that it's funny but at the same time upholding the stereotypes lol.
How is this “far from the truth” at all here? People casually act and behave like this in the front line in casual every day talk, obviously they’re more professional than in the show but it’s still fantastically well portrayed, none the less.
For the people asking what the song playing faintly in the beginning and background, it is titled From the Roof Top / Somewhere in the Silence (Sniper's Theme) off of the Ghost In the Shell: S.A.C Solid State Society O.S.T.
It is sung by Ilaria Graziano. It is a beautiful song with equally beautiful lyrics.
You know if he had shot them while they were walking, in order of back to front, likely none of them would have ever noticed.
The sad thing is that if this platoon was all American, the moment Saito killed Doc, that entire grid square would've gotten leveled, and the Geneva Convention would've gotten a few new entries.
This episode is called "Ghost in the Full Metal Jacket"
What I don't get is why the full fledged cyborgs didn't go out and retrieve the body since they could afford getting shot, or why they didn't pop a smoke grenade to conceal their position at that moment.
Even as cyborgs getting shot isn't a good thing, not by a rifle of that caliber. And assuming that they had smoke grenade it wouldn't do much good for them.
jrupert1 Well, it might conceal their position long enough to avoid being sniped as they retrieve their friend.
Also the robits would be faster. xP
John Smith For a bit, but you have to take into consideration the sniper. Maybe he can see through it with the rifle, or he could be a cyborg himself or maybe he's just that good. Even if it worked in allowing them to move that's a lot of ground to cover there and back, their window is small. Them being fast 'cause they're cyborgs doesn't mean they're safe from having their head taken off by a sniper they don't even have the location of. Fast enough to get there carry someone back? Even with their speed and strength that's too uncertain. Information is key; along with strategy and caution. All of that is too much of a gamble, they don't have a good play and that wouldn't be it.
And again this is all assuming they even have smoke grenades (I haven't seen the episode in a while so I don't remember if they do or not). And if they did, yes not using them here is wise. Use something like that when it can give you a tactical advantage. Just saying.
jrupert1 Well, they used smoke grenades from their grenade launchers to cover their position later in the operation, and special forces and regular infantry use them to conceal their positions all the time.
If it worked well enough, he wouldn't be able to see the target, and he's likely using a scope, considering that none of his shots were perfectly accurate. In any case, it would at least give them more time to try to grab the wounded individual, since they're going to move in to try to grab him anyways.
The distance seemed pretty short, since it didn't really take moving much, just the medic was rather slow.
But of course, a team of multiple countries in a single special forces team carrying a nuke on foot when it could have been in a mechanized unit (of which the reason for the nuke was never really explained in the first place) is a little unorthodox in the first place.
John Smith Yes, that's what I was wondering about. It doesn't change that this would be a tactically illadvised moment to waste them. Them attempting was brash and stupid. The wounded were in the open, yes not far from some of the soldiers but he is from the cyborgs.
And in an age of cyberbrains trusting concealment to smoke at this unideal position would be foolish. We have technology now that makes smoke not all that effective. While some of the soldiers are acting foolish, that doesn't mean Motoko would risk her team or herself to achieve something so little with so much risk.
Yes, he's using a scope but like I said the scope could have tech rendering smoke less effective. Like the fact that he can see and shoot from multiple angles. And nothing would be stopping him from shooting into the smoke. Smoke screens are good for distraction (which wouldn't work on Saito) and moving in close quarters. My point is, yes there is a chance they could do this and it'll all work out but on the battlefield you don't risk this.
And his accuracy is perfect I don't get what would make you think his shots were inaccurate. He did what he wanted to do. You think he missed kill shots on accident? It's to use them for bait. Notice how he waited for them to enter an area in the open? This scene is a tribute recreation of the sniper scene in Full Metal Jacket.
Did no one else notice the homage to Full Metal Jacket's sniper scene? Even some shots are identical!
This similarity to this scene to Jackson's last stand in Saving Private Ryan is uncanny. Saito is left handed, with a rifle designed for a right handed person (you can tell by how he has to reach over the stock to chamber another round.) Jackson is also left handed, and reloads in the same manner. Both a church and a clocktower are in this scene, same as during the last firefight in Saving Private Ryan.
One of my favorite songs of the series and my fav origin stories of members of Sec.9
I love this scene just like all the rest of S.A.C. I see no need to criticise it, I just accept it. If you are in that frame of mind, you could question everything that happened in the whole series. This is just how it happened; it could have happened any multitude of other ways, but this is just how it played out.
That's cool, I respect your decision to accept it, but I don't like the tactics they use and I think the excuses are kinda shitty.
Nice opinion. Only one problem. (I am in your walls)
Another thing that was always weird to me, at the end was, he supposedly guessed incorrectly that she wouldn't have mid range targeting software. So, okay, wut?
Why wouldn't she already have mid range targeting software? Why would she be downloading it from a satellite? Is this something soldiers usually do, not keep the targeting software on them? Because as a combat soldier, you would presume this targeting software would be among the first things you downloaded, even if you had to keep it on external memory drives. Apparently, it's common enough to not download it to make him think that she'd download it in the middle of combat.
And she shot the bullet out of the air? With that kind of accuracy, why not just shoot him a dozen times earlier when he exposed himself? Why not used infrared to spot his location, why didn't he switch to a semi auto weapon, at least a pistol so he'd have more than one shot? Instead he used a slow moving weapon just ot allow her to do that. Most snipers will use at least one back up weapon, so, why would she expect him not to? None of it really made any sense.
I'm supposed ot believe that it's usual enough to be predictable that people don't just have targeting software on them all the time, and that she could bluff that she didn't? Wut? There's a thousand different things you could have user there. It was a cool episode, but the more I go and look back at it, the stupider it seems to get.
John Smith Bro just let it go...
Rjuga1 I'm just saying.
+John Smith Then can you explain why she shot three shots in the box. What do you mean by shot the bullet out of the air? For the pistol, I'm not an expert with guns but the distance may be the main reason why he didn't use it in the first place.
Trung Le You can carry two guns, in fact carrying a backup gun is rather common, especially among Snipers. My point was that, he could have had even a pistol as a back-up weapon, instead of relying on the sniper rifle. It's like, 2.5 pounds or less.
My second point was in a later scene, which was she took out the satellite communication jammer that Saito had, she shot it, to try and make a bluff that, she was downloading aiming technology. She ended up shooting a bullet out of the air, which, seems a bit ridiculous.
Yeah. Saito did carry a pistol. I don't understand what you mean. The second part , I never notice that before.
Ah Japan. Every time I get to close to being a weeabo you quietly remind me that you still see Americans as titanically raging racists, to the point of referring to people on a battlefield by their racial slurs alone.
+HotaruZoku that may have more to do with the English dub than the japanese writers. Stuff gets changed between both. Usually to fill in the blanks when something isn't clean when attempting a translation. Also, they're not very accepting of outsiders in general.
ArtisChronicles Agreed.
+HotaruZoku What racial slurs?
SlyBiffrons The man neither speaks as though, nor do the other troops respond as if, any of them WANTED those nicknames. They were clearly pejorative, derogatory, and as insultive as he could be while keeping himself limited to single words at a time.
Meanwhile the English guys were pointing out how sloppy American is supposed to be in fighting, and true to stereotypical form the Japanese trio was working perfectly together with minimal communication.
Text book.
HotaruZoku I suppose.
So, here's what I think. He made the ending up, and a few other parts since it followed a movie (to deliberately throw off the other person), but the rest of it is true.
Since Saito is a sniper, he thinks like the enemy, and thus imagines the story as himself in the sniper's shoes. That's also why he's so good at poker, since he can think like his enemy and knows what they are doing and how to prepare for it; a person wouldn't suddenly gain that ability after one fight with Motoko.
And how did he know the conversations the people on the ground, for instance?
But it's all speculation.
Saito joined Motoko's team. So he could have learned of the conversation after the fact.
"Following the movie" was admitted by Saito not because that's true but because he felt it was meaningless to argue against it.
Most movies are made "based on an actual event" anyways. I felt Saito's admission meant nothing.
I believe all of Saito's narration really happened in the past.
And yes, one can acquire a skill after a single fight. Especially in the future.
You have to remember this is a distant future and almost everyone has electronic brain.
Turning off facial expression and creating a poker face is as easy as flipping a switch if they chose to do so.
This actually catches my attention
I have never been into anime but this might be the one to break it
Man this reminds me of Full Metal Jacket
+SirTickleTots This scene reminds me FMJ too.
+SirTickleTots I wouldn't be surprised if it took inspiration.
The nicknames of "Mother" and "Snow" are straight from FMJ. Nice homage to the classic.
The whole scene seems to be ripped right out of FMJ, as well as the nicknames. And Saito reminds me alot of Daniel Jackson from Saving Private Ryan, both being left-handed snipers using right handed bolt guns.
This was the scene that got me int ghost in the shell. Back then it blew my mind cuz I hadn't seen anything like it.
The key to survival on the battlefield isn't courage or weapons, it's caution. And by the way, when there's a sniper in the area, take off your helmet immediately.
Why take off your helmet?
So that the audience knows at a glance that you're part of the principle cast, and not some generic throwaway character. It makes you nearly immortal.
@@poisonhemlock Ah, 7 years later and still make senses.👍🏻
Honestly this was my favorite episode
A guy was wounded by a sniper from somewhere, so instead of using, say, a rope to drag him, smoke the area or, if you don't, just pull him in cover by the shoulders/feet, just get a guy who has probably a fractured pelvis on his feet and just stay there starting a philosophical conference...Ah, japanese style...
I wish they'd bring this type of anime back.
As a country who's been at war for most of its existence, you'd think American soldiers would be less shit at shooting things and avoiding being shot.
Judging by the fact that the sniper uses satellites to fund his targets, well......
*find, lol fund. "Here US Soldiers, have this grant money"
And I find it weird that the Japanese soldiers seem to be experienced when their military hasn't been in combat since WW2
That's funny considering this a fucking anime made by the Japanese. In real life it is the opposite and they aren't shit at what they do.
This is my favorite scene of the series.
1:07 That's a fake watch. Rolex watches don't tick
i love finding anime like this through youtube recommendations
Wow just like saving private Ryan with a touch of futuristicness
I love the music choice for this scene. Great soundtrack.
This is Saving private ryan
I guess you never heard of Full metal Jacket...
Tyler Bannon Its more like saving privat Ryan, the sniper scene in France.
Tyler Bannon
Also, if the first guy that got shot is supposed to be a Marine, why is he wearing what looks like a Corporal's rank insignia? Marines don't wear rank insignia in combat situations like this. You might think you're talking to a private, but you then learn that you're actually talking to a Sergeant. I pulled this from Jack Coughlin's autobiography, Shooter, published after he retired from the Marine Corps.
Plus, Doc Jay didn't get shot in the neck.
Full Metal Jacket is easily the best Marine-based Vietnam War movie ever made. Platoon and Apocalypse Now are also very good movies. Movies like Full Metal Jacket are the only good thing to come from Vietnam.
Vasili Kamarov saving private Ryan is the best war movie ever
Steven Stifler
In my original comment, I didn't mention WW2. I mentioned the Vietnam War. Saving Private Ryan is a WW2 Army movie.
this show made my childhood aha
Occasionally Ghost in the Shell shows its age and the added CGI elements, while appropriate for the story, also help make this film feel more dated than it might have otherwise.
It's from the tv series Stand Alone Complex, season one I think. It was still pretty DAMN expensive, at least a million+ dollars, or 100 million yen. Or, even 800 million (6 million dollars). It was mentioned in a UA-cam-show, I think DigiBro's overview of the franchise. It was so expensive they didn't have money to continue it beyond the 2nd season (Second Gig). But yesterday the director said on Twitter they may have some cool news relating to it, after a fan asked about the 3rd season. And the director has always said they will make more of the show if the fans really demand it.
The problem I have with ghost in the shell is that it suffers in the plot. It is really "pretty" but the storyline is pretty hashed out scifi copy paste of various components.
Just now realizing where my military fascination stemmed from. GITS is amazing
lol I've been looking for this anime for 4 damn years... finally found it!
Gang Games I know the feel mate.
8 year now
I still think that, to this day, this is one of the most clever, well-directed, well-written scenes in cinema. Everything about it is perfect. The animation quality. The soundtrack. The acting. The pacing. The both physical AND psychological duel between Saito and the Major.....it's incredible. This episode is amazing.
lmao....
everything they did is wrong.
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I know this from 4 years ago but this is FAR from the best in cinema
@@kameronjones7139 I posted this comment 4 years ago. Conveniently get two negative replies within a few days of each other. You're prolly the same person. Lol
@@chewface uh no we are not.... The video is starting to get recommend to people with that being said it is remarkable how you managed to get dumber in those years.
As much as I love this scene, the more and more I go back and watch it, the crazier it seems to me. I'm supposed to believe that, the Japanese government not only let a traitor, mass murderer, serial killer for hire, mercenary, who killed multiple special forces individuals and countless others, who tried to steal a nuclear weapon, you know WMD's, mass murder, terrorism, not only live, not only go free, but be put into a police unit, and not just any police unit, a special forces police unit with secret clearances, specifically designed to save hostages and have self autonomy and such?
I like to believe this isn't true, particularly because I liked Saito and the others characters, but now of course he's a mercenary in the new retcon of Ghost in the shell Arise, so, that's been changed around quite a bit apparently. And that the Japanese government would allow a POW who kill all these people to go on to become a member of the capturing force's personal squad... it's just, it seems quite a bit far fetched. It's something I don't like to believe; I don't like to believe Motoko would forgive this person, let alone make them part of their squad on rescue missions, or that people would be okay with this guy walking around in public with a gun ever again. In other iterations he still comes to the aid of his fellow police buddies, and seems to genuinely care about them and civilians, even though he's also shown to be a mercenary who kills his own countrymen and military personnel for money, so it kind of makes no sense. In just a few short years he goes from being a pyscho killer to suddenly caring about people and having a higher purpose? I might have believed pazu was a criminal informant who worked in the Yakuza or something, but this is just nearly unbelievable, or just over the top. This episode always seems to leave a stain on an otherwise amazing series.
What would be cool is if, see, he sees things from the enemy's perspective, so well, that he practically becomes the enemy, he sympathizes with the enemy, he understands their motivations. So, when he tells the story, he tells it from the point of view of the enemy sniper, because from Saito's point of view, that is how he sees the battle, to a point where Saito himself doesn't even imagine himself existing on the battlefield. I mean, he knows all the conversations on the ground, exactly what's going on right, almost like he is there, and it seems rather strange they wouldn't have a counter-sniper or marksmen in their squad, being a special forces unit, as well. Perhaps the "first order" thing was him being told by Motoko to kill the enemy sniper, even though he sort of didn't want to. He had simply followed Motoko up to that point because he agreed with her, not because she told him to, but he might have done it this time simply because she said so.
As well, why carry the nuke on foot; why not carry it in a mecha tank, which is just as agile and were shown earlier in the war scenes, so they apparently exist already, as do cyborgs. You could drive it in and park it in a building, and it would be nigh impossible to take out, where as a suitcase would not only be harder to carry, as it would be better in a backpack, but easier to take away and steal, as well as spot in the open. Why carry in a nuke on the ground at all? Especially with space based kinetic weaponry and the like, and the micro machines mitigating much of the effect. And why were the special forces so dumb in this scene, I mean making mistakes, okay, they need to show why the major is so boss, but they made rookie mistakes even regular infantry wouldn't. None of it really makes sense, but it makes for a cool action shot. Ignoring all the obvious stereotypes, of course.
I like to think the background to ghost in the shell is more or less pointless and unnecessary, as after I went back and looked through a lot of it I realized it was either a jumbled mess, made no sense, or simply was nonexistent; sometimes it even changed, multiple times in the same episode. Especially cross seasons. But it's an awesome episode, both for the action scenes, the character interactions, the style, and many more reasons, but the background itself seems rather horrible. I've come to realize that the background to the show is more or less irrelevant, but still, kind of weird.
So basically, my version is better; nope, too late, already done it, it's canon now. Can't take it back.
who knows its a tv/movie thing, of course there has to be inconsistencies
Donteo50 lol yeah, I just find it funny xD
It seems to be a clear shout-out to the Saving Private Ryan scene. TBH, I didn't watch the episode, but the description says it may be just a tall story.
The whole episode is on youtube. He gets pissed at how the war is being handled, and signs up for a mercenary unit. In the U.S, the Army Special Forces train indigenous troops in combat, some of which have fought against us in the past. They trained the mujahedeen, back in the 80s, to fight against Russia in Afghanistan, and the CIA provided crates of Stinger missiles to knock down the Russian's Hind helicopters that were tearing the Afghans apart. Now, lots of those U.S funded AK47s and RPGs are being used against our ground troops.
As to his being on a secret military unit, Section 9 has a long history of acting outside of the government and military in this series, so it's not too far of a stretch that Aramaki would hire a sniper with a questionable background, just to get a world class shooter on their team.
Lastly, Paz was in the Yakuza, so the unit has a history of hiring members with a questionable past, in order to get the skills necessary to do their job.
TRoss240 Actually, the mujhadeen did not receive any training from the U.S., and there was very little mixing between them and the taliban, particularly considering that they fought each other, and sadly Massoud, the leader of the organization, was assassinated by the Taliban 2 days before 9/11, or 9/9. They received money funneled through the president of Pakistan, who also unfortunately died under mysterious circumstances and a power restructuring began, leading to new leaders which created the Taliban. These two groups fought against each other extensively, differing in many ideological views. The U.S. also does not produce Ak-47's.
Pazu could be an informant, and is shown in some iterations to be an under cover cop, so the exact details behind him are never explained. The difference between pazu and Saito, is that while Pazu, an organized crime member, might have been born into the Yakuza and forced into it against his will, since it's very family oriented, and might not have killed anyone or committed any major crimes, could be seen as a good guy in unfortunate circumstances who primarily provides information about organized crime (an important task of a special police force), but who appeared to be able to handle himself, and later was given some missions in field activity.
Saito, on the over hand, is a mass murderer, serial killer for hire who tried to steal a nuke. Pretty much unforgivable, and the guy would show close to no loyalty so, he would be an incredible liability to have, particularly in an anti-corruption organization.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
the first shot and scene that happens after is a nice nod to Saving Private Ryan, gg gis creator
how come in every sniper scene when one guy is down, nobody uses para cord or some other rope and throw it to the downed guy. How hard is it to throw him a Rome and pull him in.
Which Ghost in the Shell is this from? There are too many spin offs and reboots for this series.
+Benjot Sumal
Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG, Episode 14, 40
xD
John Smith Thanks
+Benjot Sumal When the first dude got shot, it kinda felt like Saving Private Ryan when vin diesel got shot
Vesphuong Yeah it does kinda. Usually I'm upset about when x thing sorta copies y thing but for some reason not so much here. Probably because it feels a lot of heart went into this scene vs a lazy copy. Like when the sniper was using a different gun to confuse him. And it is oddly realistic for a cartoon like the sniper wasn't just picking them off like instantly even if his crosshairs are on half of the exposed body like at 4:41.
+Vesphuong it's a tactic to pin people and make them risk their lives to save an incapacitated soldier.
This is why I carry a grappling hook and cord in my combat kit; to drag the fallen out of danger
I love the clear FMJ influence for this scene
One of my favourite episodes.
I see people point out errors, but i was totally into it when i saw it and i still think it works great.
The way both sides predicted each other and used tactics that weren't blatantly explained to the viewer really help to convince me that these are intelligent characters that know their stuff.
I'm sick of "intelligent" characters written by stupid people that just know everything, happen to notice every relevant detail and basically don't seem intelligent by themselves, but rather as if they read the skript.
Scenes like this make me feel like the characters actually had to solve the situation by themselves instead of being chosen by the author as the one that happens to solve the conflict like in a cheesy detective story with a single right solution that is written in the skript.
the U.S. is japans best friend. but yet they make us look like stupid amateurs in more than one anime. why?
+justin fleming every country on earth thinks they are the best of the best, its nothing new :D
Dávid Elek tru tru
Yeah don't get me wrong most Americans are complete idiots but this you know this kinda feels a little excessive but best friends a little too much cough Hiroshima cough
Hellbound Angel Bringing up something that happened over 70yrs ago is irrelevant given the treaty of cooperation and security between two nations. If japan is attacked by a foreign threat the U.S. will give military assistance in combating the threat to Japan. Since Japan's military purpose isn't for an outward military campaign. So if I depended on a nation for many things one of the biggest being " heavy military backing" yea I'd call them my best friend. Especially that friend being a nation as powerful as the United States.
+justin fleming fair point but some people even today still make it a controversial matter that while the US had every right to do it the p pole even some Americans believe that nuking an entire city vaporizing 100s upon 1000s of innocent civilians was too excessive.