【机动警察PATLABOR 2】自卫队政变（JSDF Coup d'état）
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2017
- 片段出自《机动警察PATLABOR 2 the Movie》，练马驻屯地事件后，陆海空幕僚长一齐辞职，警视厅与自卫队之间的对峙彻底升级到白热化阶段。当晚，陆自突然“治安出动”开进东京，宣布首都圈戒严。押井守所导演的动画电影都以大段描绘景色的蒙太奇为标志性特征，而这段整整7分钟的镜头则为全片最长，其对军事器械和人物状态的精细刻画再配上川井宪次的配乐《Asia》，完美地营造出了政变当夜的危机紧迫感，以及士兵们有条不紊行动下的迷茫。《机动警察2》也因此堪称写实向的军事动画之首。
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I just love old anime films from the 80's and 90's, they just seem to have a magical vibe to them that can't be recreated again (or at least it's very difficult to recapture it's magic).
I agree, anime from the 70s-90s really have that feeling of life in them, compared to now where it is kinda dull and muted. Especially meta for anime now is just proft and ecchi
Old style graphic type, unique single scene animation (Chinook landing in 4:02), landscapes shots (mostly urban areas and from hight altitude) and music (i can't recognize the type. Old synthwave? Ambient? Dunno) - recipe for '70.-'90. anime magic. ;)
Gundam wing, ghost in the shell, patlabor, Jin roh
They had lots of monies back then, thats why its so hard
It’s because of the hand drawing and painting.
A lot of care and love use to go into drawing anime back then.
Also the colour palate use to be more neutral and natural, not the glossy pastel palate of current gen.
And also Japanese economy was doing extremely well back then so studios didn’t hold back on quality and expense.
For me “Macross Do You Remember Love” takes the cake for quality!
I really love the scene of the Type 90 being wheeled off the truckbed and the POV shot of it's gun pointing right at the Diet building. Really great and subtle way to show Oshii's hatred of the military industrial complex.
They predicted the events of 1993 in Moscow
@@Blatborn
Never forget
S U B T L E
@@Blatborn Oh I wanted to comment it myself :D
@@Blatborn Damn, it was released just two months before they fired on the Russian White House with tanks.
This single scene is a way scarier than most of the thrillers. A ghost of probable civil war, tanks on the streets, emergency announcements on tv. A complete misunderstanding of what is truly happening. It reminds me of the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis.
Точняк, братишка
The terror that happened after the fall of the USSR. The things that went on just don’t get said. Maybe for the better.
The first thing i think of when i read the title is literally the 1993 russian coup
This kind of feels like what we are going through in America right now
@@someoneelse4316 It is, honestly, what may happen in the near future, the JCS may grow tired of the political bickering and rising chance of civil war breaking out to the point they deem it necessary to step in to prevent the total collapse of the nation.
自衛隊個人個人が常に目を光らせてるわけでもなく、配置に着いてぼーっと何か考え事してたり、ちょくちょく一般市民と親しくしたりしてるのが凄い現実的に表現されてて凄いな
それがもしかしたらだけど、
ロシア兵の人も中にはいるんじゃ無いかな。
分からないけど。
コメント欄で実際「メキシコ人だけどカルテルとの紛争で軍が出動したときこんな感じだったわ」とか「ミンダナオ島（フィリピン）に軍隊来たときこれみたいな感じで出動した軍隊と市民が会話したり写真撮ったりしとったわ」とか海外からコメント来てるあたり、本当にリアリティが凄いですよね
本格的に戦闘に突入する前はこんな曖昧な雰囲気らしいな。
ウクライナ侵攻でも、立っているロシア兵におばちゃんが怒って詰め寄っていたりした。
口火が切られたら本当に地獄になる・・
@@PVUA-camr 軍が軍の為に戦うことは許されないからね
兵士といっても人間だし
It's crazy how this animation back in the 90s or even late 80s could look so stellar. Arguably better even than what we get now.
Indeed, it's a testament to the team's skill that it really holds up even today.
They didn't seem afraid to go through the 'show, don't tell' route, which couldn't have been coupled better with scenes like this one where the worldbuilding is unveiled through a slow-burn of a montage. The contrast created from the juxtaposition of the military in the midst of a dense urban city, with all the mundane details of every day life, really gives it a captivating quality. It reminds me of the montage from Ghost in The Shell, which is also just a timeless piece.
Not even arguable. Here artist understood the intricacies of the world on a level I can’t even begin to comprehend, it really is a dying art form full of 3d models that “look just as good”. Stg if I hear that again I’m gonna have an aneurysm. There is just so much more life to films like this, Akira, and Jin Roh.
Imagine for a moment, the feeling of impending demise from seeing this scene unfold on your own city/town. The sudden appearance of military armor divisions posting guard throughout the area...and then the tense boredom that follows when nothing happens.
Sad to think that there are now millions of people who could describe that feeling now. Having your government attacked, either by foreign or domestic entities, is scary because at the end of the day civilians who are just trying to live their lives will inevitably be caught in the crossfire
@@wesleykim1758 Absolutely true, Wesley! Very uncertain and terrifying times that we are in.
I remember that back in 2009 in my country there was the BDR mutiny ( I am Bangladeshi) when the border troops laid siege to their HQ and killed their officers. The military mobilized with Tanks to storm the HQ. I was around 10 at the time. I remember seeing tanks roll past our street and btr-80s being parked in our streets. I did not really understand what was going on until years later.
@@zariftajoar9562 Wow. Simply incredible.
To a smaller extent thats what Atlanta was like during George Floyd
配備された自衛隊員たちの「俺ら何してんだろ」みたいな顔がすき。
3:22あたりに出てくる自衛隊員の「こんなことして大丈夫か？」と言わんばかりの困惑した表情が、素晴らしい演出だと思います。言葉ではなく隊員の表情で状況の深刻さを演出している。
ヘルハウンドの強襲シーンよりもこのシーンの方がある意味迫力ありますよね。
There isn't a shot wasted in patlabor 2. Every image is art.
Indeed
Love it when the chopper went around the building, the reflection.... how the heck they do this without CG?
Isaac Hiew money can make anything possible.
The only thing I thought was odd was how the Tanks Turned down the street, wasn’t as fluid
@@isaachiew676 Apparently it was one of the hardest challenges the animators had to face during the making of this movie. One of the animators came out saying "If there was something I wanted everyone to see, it's the helicopters.
有事と言う非日常が日常の中に溶け込んでいく様子を静けさのなかに描いた見事なシーンです
わかる
今見ると一層来るもんあるな。
I'm the 666th like....
的確に言語化できるの良いな
この状況下で満員の山手線で通勤する、日本人の異常性
社会風刺を含んだ鋭い描写
Love that bit of symbolism at 03:45 as the tank raises its gun barrel at Diet (parliament) building, then turns away. "Yeah, we're here to protect you, but we're pretty much a gun pointed at your head..."
May occur somewhere in the future especially with the Coronavirus affecting the Tokyo 2020 Olympics. Imagine what will happen if Japan decided to cancel it in which trillions of yen was spent in preparing for it.
Japanese Leopard 2A4 a.k.a Type 90
@@Shimizu191 well erm........ it happend
@@Shimizu191 Yikes! - from May 2020
nailed it.
上映されてた当時、陸自にいたので、｢実際に出て来る部隊は・・・｣と見ながら駐屯地の事を考えてました。
どういうことww
@@user-et3tw4cl1j
首都圏治安維持で、出て来る部隊はまず近い所からかなと、思ったんですよ。それで部隊が配置されている駐屯地は・・・と。もう３０年前の事です。
どういうことww
Name animation
実際にこの状況になった場合出動する自衛隊の部隊どの部隊か考えていたということでは？
One of the reasons that I like this anime so much is that it's not so futuristic at all compared with other similar animes that center around robots or power armors. You can see in the clip that they still use traditional TV screens, which are huge and heavy, instead of the HD flat screens that are so commonly used everywhere nowadays. The combination of reality and imagination is one of the features of this series. The more you watch this anime movie, the more you realize that the setting of the story is not the far future, but a modern world in which all of these technologies have been used for quite a while. I am looking forward to this kind of work but haven't found similar ones so far. It's a condensed, dark, and inspiring movie that people who are interested in Japanese culture or political environment should never miss.
呂建德 its in late 90s
*should not miss
I agree.... Patlabor was very much a "10 minutes into the Future" type of experience. The Team that made it wanted you to feel that this could very well be done with existing tech or cutting edge tech at the least.
Patlabor the first movie had the characters using minidisc CD Roms in Computers at a time when that was happening in real life Japan but the West was only just phasing out floppy discs for conventional PC CD Roms.
Its probably because they had no idea that tvs that flat would even exist.
Not only that, is the details.
Notmally animes are just plain things. A tank? a couple of flat sirfaces and done, here you can see the fact that plates aret just flat, they have volume, shadows and other componentes. You can see it on the image of the tanks moving through the city on the highway, the shadows that public lights create on the surfaces of those tanks and the faces of the commander.
Animes nowadays wouldnt doubt about making thos tanks plain, 0 shadows, bright colours,etc.
this animation style is beautiful. why inst modern anime this gorgeous
Boss Smasher I love the way they combined the realistic and the science-fiction style.
Well, for one, this was very expensive. Also, I think it has a lot to do with animation studios as well as artists moving away from the old-school cell animation techniques and equipment which are needed to make this kind of thing. Most cell animation didn't look all that great, and isn't missed. I think over time there will probably be more animation which simulates an older style similar to this one. I think there were also very few artists to begin with who were able to make cell animation look so damn good in the first place, and I'm guessing they're mostly retired now.
Boss Smasher Modern anime is suck
simple: It's fucking expensive. Like, shit tons of Yen.
To achieve this kind of quality, you need to roll about 3 or 4 times the average money an anime would usually spend. I'm serious.
It's the cost paradox I'm afraid to say. Despite computer animation making it cheaper to animate shows (you can get this sort of quality on a computer animation set for a mere FRACTION of the cost), animation is STILL expensive and isn't guaranteed to draw in the crowds to justify the quality... and that isn't even mentioning the fact that the animation industry is in a similar position as the gaming industry and graphics. Only Disney was able to reconcile this because, well, they're Disney and have the Disney Empire at their backs (and are known innovators of the animation industry since pretty much Day 1 and still do one way or another to this day). There is a major risk with going for high quality than 'good enough'. Many GOOD cell-animation shows that are still remembered are thanks more to writing or merch than the quality of their animation.
The looks of awe on the faces of the tankers as they roll by the offices gets me every time. "Is this really happening? Are we really doing this in our lifetime?"
Edit because while I appreciate the clip being up I feel the title of the video is very misleading. While the scene shows a mobilization and the following garrison duty, it's hardly a coup d'etat in the plot. Maybe it's mistranslation, but the title ought to read "(JSDF Mobilization)" instead.
fr 💀
It truly shows that despite theyre extensive training its doesnt mean that they can feel sandness or even fear of whats happening around them
If i was a soldier in this situation i will pray evey single minute and hour!
買い占め部隊とかトイレットペーパーとか軍オタとか
これだけ緊張した映像に自然と笑いを仕込む押井監督のセンス
Huh, while out of context this does look like a coup d'état, it's actually the government calling in JSDF units that hadn't been part of the units who had protested against the government actions. I realized once I saw how in the show it talks about all "loyal" units, and when you realize that other units had been protesting, it would be pretty clear what's happening here. A really cool scene nonetheless though.
Gustav Kuriga It’s not a coup, they are enforcing martial law.
*snip* me being an ass, removed comment
Sorry. :P
Tbh this is how martial law in the mindanao regions of the philippines looks like right now. Civs interacting and taking pictures with soldiers and exchanging in small conversations.
@@ShifTac I always wondered why my Filipino relatives weren't alarmed by the fact there is martial law right next door to them, now I know!
I miss the way things were lit in a scene, the subtle glow of a screen, the shadows in a dark alley. The lighting techniques they had definitely added a certain feel to the animation
For people who are confused as to why its called a coup, as said in 4:59, all provisions for martial law were dropped after WW2. While the JSDF reacted according to the whims of the civilian government - it did so clearly against the constitution. The civilian government basically gave a duplicate key to the JSDF with that one especially as just before this - the PATLABOR units (basically the police) had been condemned for their inaction during the Bay Bridge Bombing and the blame was pinned on them.
This is why the SVD Units were hauling shit - they have been ordered to stand down while the forces who condemned them rolled in to take over their job. Who knows what will happen.
Now why did the civilian government called in the JSDF? Well the US threatened to intervene if the government doesnt get a grip on things. This was exactly what the antagonist wanted, to basically have the JGSDF (who the antagonist doesnt have much influence on) to parade around in one area which he basically threatened with nerve gas the very next scene.
The plan was for the JGSDF themselves to orchestrate a full coup fearing another attack - which would be the real thing next time. The antagonist, who is with the JASDF is going to take care of the SVD Units which he basically sent a gunship after to destroy them while the gas attack was going on.
Solid description of the scene, thanks for details!
So the army basically have no intention to make a coup d'état but they will do so if it's necessary? I mean what's the end goal of both side? Sorry haven't watch film. 😅
while the constitution does not have any overt or subtle provisions for a state of martial law, the JSDF law allows the government to call upon the JSDF to deal with internal disturbances and defence in accordance to rulings made by Japan's supreme court.
(It's difficult to find information about the JSDF law of 1954, the best that i can find is the one the library of congress, it seems that everyone knows what the law contains but couldn't cite the actual transcript except 'Act No. 165 of 1954' which does not exist online and probably requires contact with the japanese government to see one)
6:45 この戦車がぽつんとあるシーンが何か好き、明らかな異物なはずなのにずっと前からここに置いてあったようなそんな感じがなんとも。
Am I the only one who just loves the atmosphere of a coup d'etat scene? We really need more of them.
Not only you many Thais love coup d’etat
But in real life🙃
@@Firm2543 here in the Philippines, it sometimes feels like we are in a verge of one. The fearful question is which side are the coup rebels are on.
Be the change you want to see. Start a coup.
coups are fascinating
@@curly5330 They're boring here. Badically to perfrom a couo here, A unit called the 111 Birgade is deployed to the capital, They go straight to the Parliment, The Prime Ministers house, The Courtsand the Media Houses. The rest of the military is placed on high alert and provincial Governments are also detained.
I like the way the music plays out through this sequence.
lookylook1 sadly they don’t do music like this anymore
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It gives off some really interesting urban vibes.
Kenji Kawai is a master of classic anime soundtracks
これがもう30年以上前の作品って…凄いな。
UA-cam decided to recommend me this right after Wagner incident 💀
lol.
The fact that they bought everything in that convenience store using change and bills from their pockets and not goverment funds is dedication
Was that even enough money?
@@EricToTheScionti Who knows...
@@EricToTheScionti Absolutely not. Last year, a Japanese UA-camr bought up everything at a convenience store and he said it cost more than 5 million Japanese yen.
Judging from the fact that most of the contents in the helmet are coins, they paid only 40-50 thousand Japanese yen at most, which is just my estimation though.
@@coldplay8680 Maybe they only buy the edible stuff and forget other expensive stuff such as toys, magazine, toiletries, cigarettes, medicines... And I wonder if stuffs were cheaper in the 90s.
@@WatermelonAttack Even assuming that they bought only food and beverage, and considering the difference in prices, 40-50 thousands Japanese yen would have been far from enough to purchase all food a convenience store had at that time. This is in part thanks to the inflation Japan has been suffering.
金ローとかで流してほしい。
もっと世間に広まるべき作品だと思います。
There was a time when Patlabour was actually more of a comedy than a Tom Clancy's thriller
Yeah lol
bro I tried watching Patlabor because of this scene thinking it was a grim military and politics anime 💀
Thats what makes Patlabor great.
One episode can be a wacky and fun slice of life and then the next one is a serious political thriller
Huh, alright.
Like fucking hell it was basically Brooklyn 99 with giant robots.
The way the Military just blends into the civilian world, it's so surreal along with the music.
Just like in Thailand in 2014.
Or Mexico in 2023.
I really like it
Wow I never seen scene so chilling yet so beautifully portrayed
Wagner convoy reaching Moscow ETA 6 hours left
平和の象徴である鳩と平和の逆である武器が一緒に映るシーン好き。
Kawai's soundtrack for this film is probably my favorite of his and might be my favorite anime film ost period (it's tied between this and Dirty Pair Project Eden). Shit sends chills up my spine every time I listen to it. This, Patlabor 1 and Ghost in the Shell are the reasons I adore Oshii and place him at the number 1 spot of my favorite anime film directors, with Yoshiaki Kawajiri coming in at number two.
I agree 100% with the Kawai comment. I come back to these scenes often just to enjoy. Really wish more of Kawai's older were on Spotify.
Shame Oshii is now more concerned about live action then anime, watched garm wars not long ago and was not too impressed compared to gits and patlabor it doesn't hold a candle to those
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@@redeyerob2176oshii are just human sometimes they goes down. Same like Ridley Scott and James Cameron
2024年に見ても、とてもリアルで美しい、名作中の名作。押井監督の新作を求む。
back when anime artists understood how to draw vehicles
they still do, GATE's vehicles are pretty well drawn
@@Robloxchat123 gate is the exception to the rule, and theyre not even that good, its just atleast theyre real
Now its just artist drawing big ass trucks to isekai people
@@Robloxchat123 Yeah but the story is stupid af
Never heard of Initial D?
Oh my God, I just realized this after all these years… the birds. In this sequence the birds only appears on screen.
Normally the Japanese, only saw the tanks on the screens. Now Tsuge made it that they are now actually on the streets of Tokyo, and the birds are now on screen.
Careful how you say his name dude amen 🙏
Read John 3:16 🙏
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 a Christian warthog? Well brother, hello there
Are the birds symbolic of something?
@@mr_girr3488 The tanks and the birds just traded places in the lives of Tokyo residents. So yeah, it's kinda symbolic, but in movies by this director that's just like every 40 seconds.
Welcome to another episode of: Why is this in my recommended?
Can I participate in the episode?
@@ragnarokstravius2074 yes
Welp i just got involved in this too
I'm in the episode but why did we click it?
Where's your friend Memes Bob bro 😂
6:21 brilliant juxtaposition - for those who don't speak French "Lumière et Ombre" mean "Light and Shadow"
Ombre umbre umbrella
also i love the scene where the cannon was raised and aimed at the Parliament of Japan then swerved off, I interpret this as "Fuck your laws, the army is now taking over"
Ca ressemble a un oxymort
Rostov-on-Don 2023:
God damn it you've beaten me to it
what I love about patlabor, the writer seems to have thought of everything even though it is based on science fiction, yet such things as hoarding food, coup d'état parade, strobing lights, seems never escaped their thoughts.
That's Mamoru Oshii for you, he's also the person behind other masterpieces: Ghost in the Shell, Jinrou, Tenshi no Tamago, The Sky Crawlers
９０の砲身が一瞬国会議事堂に向けられている、こういう匂わせる描写がいいですよね。地味ながら好きなシーンの一つ。
砲打司令部（確信）
226事件を想起させる議事堂・戦車・雪とかね。
@@hagehagehage 当時の押井守のケツモチのリクエストですよ😀
@@hagehagehage 歴史マニアからすると、ものすごくセンスの良い有能なアドバイスだと思います！！226事件のときは、珍しく東京で豪雪だったようですね。
@@user-pk9lb6gj9o 素晴らしい提言！
普通では見れない物を、普通の世界に写し込めている所がとても好き
Prigozhin's unreachable dream
haha
Why does this feel so real? Hats off to the production team.
Covid-19 and great animation
@@isakjohansson7134 this was long long long before COVID lmao.
@@luxeternity Yes i know that, i meant thats why it feels so real
maybe covid somehow made it feel more real nowadays?
apparently people that lived during actual coups and similar events (ie; military in cities] seemed to say that this scene felt accurate
The director and storywriter translated a lot of personal military experience into the script.
I love those animes without giant eyed chicks
Those animes=thotimes
Lol
Well I can't stand those anime if they aren't lol
Yes! All of the yes!
Dude
この自衛隊がいる異常事態と普段通り暮らしている人達、町、景色、とても好きです。2の中でも。BGMも相まって…
元自衛官です。
普通科隊員でした。
自分もこういう状況に居たらどんな気持ちで警戒してるんだろうな？と考えさせられました！
普通科でも役立つのだろうか？とか思いました笑
劇中の隊員の心境がソレ
自分が何のために配備されてるのか、誰と戦うのかわからないまま立哨する。
そのため「カカシ」になりきり、だだ無心で立哨する。
The animation is top when it comes to mechanical detail. And the tension from background music fits perfectly. I feel like they aren’t cheap and you can’t see anything like this get released often.
This scene probably inspired by the 26 February 1936 Coup and the Kyujo Incident 1945. Both incident were military coup started by the Imperial Japanese Army which occured in Tokyo.
このシーンは、クーデターじゃなくて、 来るべきテロに備えた治安維持出動 なんですけどね。
@Roniixx HUH?
@@dodgedemonsrtxIt really resembles the 1980 Turkish Coup D'état in which Turkish Armed Forces took over the civilian government in order to stop armed infighting between Right and Left wingers. The scenes from Patlabor 2 are also very similar to captured footages of the 1980 Coup.
A “coup d'état” in snow.
It is derived from February 26 Incident.
That was an attempted coup d'état in Japan on 26 February 1936.
In that day Tokyo was in heavy snowstorm.
金属の光沢、光の描写、機械や航空機や車両の細かい描写etc
今でも通用するすごい作画ですね
当時のセル画技術が高すぎる
これはロストテクノロジーになりますね…
まさか日本のデジタル映像技術がココまで想像の斜め下とは思わなかったもんなあ
多年後回顧這個片段
仍然被深刻震撼
音樂跟氣氛
還有大螢幕不斷出現的
鴿子跟飛鳥
政變自衛隊跟
一樣忙碌於生活的百姓
形成奇妙的畫面跟無法言喻的感覺
新聞也有暗示說
有在醜化警察的治安能力
6:32 「君の名は」に出てきた歩道橋
若干雪降ってるとこも似てて草
そうなんだ笑笑
日常の中に兵器が待機しているという非日常……
何か見えない事が始まりつつあるという「圧倒的な現実」への不安感……
具体的には何もできないという焦燥……
I never understood Patlabor 2 as a kid (I loved the first movie even as a kid), but I go back to watch this every once in a while and the older I get the more I truly appreciate what a masterpiece this movie is.
Inb4 wagner comments
When you think about it, the JSDF is basically the only group of people in Japan that has weapons at their disposal, so they could basically do what they want.
There are the police and the navy too
SV2 (the protagonists) have them though, and by weapons I mean literal cannons that look like shotguns or revolvers
Your ragtag team of suburban militia losers have no chance against a modern, industrialized military.
@@zico739 tell that to the Vietnamese
@@xaina222 Yeah no, Vietcong and North Vietnam army is actually supported by Soviet Union and PRC by weapon or money and they actually get a pretty advanced weaponry too like MIG and anti-air gun. So no, Vietnam war is not entirely about a rag tag militias against a global superpower.
Also, imagine someone doing a banzai charge at a labor, now that's dedication.
you havent notice the subtlety in this scenes.. despite the coup de tat or rather protest act of the military... the part where the kids were all getting excited with the robot the pilot gestured to the kids wonderfully and playfully witht he kids... showing they still want to keep the civilians feel safe and not panic with their presence
Yeah loved that touch too, shows that the troops on the ground are still citizens of the nation.
The standoff between the army base troops against the riot police was also pretty good, neither side wanted to be there.
4:56
5:31
These scenes actually exist in Shinjuku, Tokyo.
I go through these places to the office, every day.
When I go to work, I think "It's the Patlabor scene" several times.
That's important to me, it's a reason to go to the company.
パトレイバー2、二重三重の入れ子として表現された戦争における現実と幻想のテーマや、押井守の都市論的側面、立体的人物描写、美しい冬の東京、脚本構成レイアウト等の技巧等魅力的な側面が沢山あるアニメ映画だと思うのですが、私が一番好きなのは東京という都市が舞台なのにもかかわらず完璧に冒険映画として成立させている巧さなんですよね
東京という日常であるはずの光景においても、戒厳という非日常、電子戦による情報的孤立、超法規的決断による孤立無援、日常的には決して目にすることができない物理的視点から切り取られた画面等の要素によって東京の潜在的な魔境ともいえる性質が浮かび上がり、それが冒険モノとしての魅力を出しているのが凄いんですよね
And as the snow fell, everyone soon realized... That they are now in Russia.
LibeFiken What? Russia? Wtf is Russia doing here?
cause tanks in the middle of capital = Russian way. Just like what Russian do every year on v-day :D
LibeFiken They have mechs and shit.
DomScatterbrain France does it since 1798.
WE WILL DESTROY YOU WITH RUSSIAN BIAS!!!!!!!!! LONG LIVE THE SOVIET UNION
東京という大都市で、内戦に近い状態が起こっているというのに、人々がいつもと変わらない日常をおくっているコト、もしかしたら自衛隊や警察でさえ、危機感を感じていないのでは？と思わせる描写に考えさせられます。
人は常に無意識にある
心無しか描写の画像が「アキラ」見たいに見える
コロナ禍にあって品川駅から吐き出される通勤客の波がオーバーラップする。
確かに今の日本を風刺している!!
響きます!!
最近思ったけど、これが良いことなのかもしれない。
なぜかわかんないけど、有事に近い状況でも、いつも通り経済活動が出来るって強いなぁって。 バタバタしてても何にもなんないしって。
何が正しいのか知らんけどさ。
The scenes of tanks posted in the streets,students saluting the tanks and people taking pictures with the troops reminds me very much of what happened in Egypt after the January 25th revolution when the Egyptian army "protected"(it was a coup lol) the people of Egypt from the government.
Which was probably the less bad option compared to being governed by the muslim brotherhood
@@timmteller871 yes lmao agreed
That's exactly what I was thinking
コロナ禍で緊急事態宣言出ましたが
真っ先にこのアニメーション映画を思い描きました。首都Tokyoに「信頼のおける部隊」が派兵されても会社は休みにならず満員電車に揺られ出勤する日常
まんまコロナ禍の緊急事態における東京の風景そのまま
The roots of Ghost in the Shell grow here...
And Pacific Rim too.
Do you know what anime this is
@@letsspamdude5661 it's in the title, PATLABOR
Thanks
the soundtrack is just incredible... match the scene so perfectly
3:23 I like that this one scene is included. It shows that this is surreal to them as well, not just to the onlookers.
コロナコロナって騒いでるけど、結局は全てを日常として飲み込んでる。
治安出動後の日常シーンを見てて、正しく今と同じ状況だなって思ったわ。
正常性バイアスってやつだ
パニックと平和ボケは天秤なようで背中合わせさ
生きるためには働かなければならない。
都会の人には、いまひとつわからんだろうがな。
待機が許されるのは、「生産性のない仕事」だけ。
つまりだ、生きる糧を得るためには、得体のしれないウイルスなんか恐れてる場合じゃない。一杯のかけ蕎麦にありつかなければ、その蕎麦や小麦を栽培しなければ、感染する前に餓死してしまう。
この程度で緊急事態宣言してる現在の日本が平和ボケ。
オニギリはコンビニの棚に生えてくると思ってるんだろ。
異常な事態も、日常として受け入れるのが、本来生物として正しい。
なので、正常性バイアスとは違う。
日常として受け入れてることを、正常性バイアスと言っちゃうことが「平和ボケ」の象徴。
リスクを負ってでも、生きる糧の生産は怠れない。
コンビニやスーパーに並んでる「食品(平和)」は、誰が生産し、誰が調理し、誰が包装し、誰がそこに運んだのか？そして、それを買いにコンビニに足を運ぶ人は、何故リスクを承知で買い物に出てる？医療従事者も含め、それに関わる人々は「正常性バイアス」で動いてるのか？
パチンコに並んでるアホは、正常性バイアスによる行動だがな。
もう一度書こう・・・
オニギリはコンビニの棚に生えるのか？
今日食った飯は、一体どこから来た？
その成果(飯、医療、給付金＝払った税金)だけはしっかり受け取っておきながら、そこが戦線(感染リスクを承知で働いてる人々)の単なる後方に過ぎない事を忘れる。
いや、忘れたフリをする。
そんな欺瞞を続けていたら、いずれ大きな罰が下される。
そう考えた事はないか？
テレワーク？リモートワーカー？在宅勤務？
「事件は会議室で起きてるんじゃない！現場で起きてるんだ！」
そんな働き方が許される職業は滅んでも誰も困らん。
米を栽培してるのは誰だ？
肉や魚を調理してるのは誰だ？
宅配サービスを宅配してるのは誰だ？オンラインで患者の胸に聴診器当てられるのか？
電線引いたのは誰だ？アンテナ建てたのは誰だ？
それなのに、オンライン名刺交換だのなんだの、こいつらは会議室に引きこもって一体何を言っているんだ？
「突然ですが、貴方がたにはほとほと愛想が尽き果てました！私も南雲警部と行動を共に致します！」
@@user-fs2wi4lf4l いやあ名言ですなwww
後だしじゃんけんですが
コロナ禍は実際ヒトが戦禍単位で死んでますけどね
この劇中でのリスクとは同一視出来ないかと…
どちらにせよ第一線をイメージできない(知らない)で自分の立場でしか喋れないのがボケてるんだと思いますが…
まぁ誰しも自身の限界がその世界の限界と考えてしまうので
私も貴方も皆も
アニメなんだけど実写のようだ。不思議。今のアニメとは違う。体温を感じる。
素晴らしい。
まろまろ 今のアニメだとこういうのやったら滅茶苦茶批判されるのかな
すーぱー醤油さん
昔のアニメ関係者は、実写映画を見ているのに対し、最近の人はアニメしか見ていないことも大きいかと。
つまり、アニメーション作画とは、ものの構造、数学的なパースや人物や物体の運動等の物理法則をイメージできないと描けません。色彩に関しても本物をほとんど見たことがないデジタル世代ばかりが携わっているため、最近のアニメはリアリティがないというのはよく聞きます。ストーリーに関しても、話が薄いものが多いのは、最近の監督や演出が本を読まず自分自身の経験も乏しいからだと思います。
押井守や宮崎駿は相当な知識人としても知られます。彼らが言うのは、矛盾しているようですが、「アニメなんて見るな」ということです。
@すーぱー醤油さん
私は初めて見たアニメがファーストガンダムだったので、温かみのあるセル画に魅了されましたが、
最近のアニメはどれも昔からあった
日本のアニメって感じが全くなくて
寂しいです…(16のガキンチョが言っております)
吉良吉影 ガンダムの生みの親である富田監督も同じことをおっしゃってましたね
いいアニメを作るためにはアニメ以外のものに触れなければならないと
結局アニメも表現技法の一つであって、映画や本なんかと本質は変わらないってことですかね
エヴァの庵野監督も旧エヴァの最後で実写を用いてましたし、アニメでは表現し切れないものがあるとおっしゃってました
うまく説明できませんが、昔は実写のものをアニメとして表現していたけど、今のはアニメをアニメで表現していると言うか、コピーをコピーしているような感覚を持ちます
劣化は必至でしょうね
もちろん今のアニメらしいアニメも嫌いではないですが、本物の名作と呼ばれるようなものは今後出て来にくくなるような気がします
The A E S T H E T I C is real
indeed! retro anime rocks
日常に非日常が入ってきて、すぐ普通に溶け込むとこすこ
I was immediately reminded of this scene following the Wagner revolt in Russia.
もうこんなアニメ二度と拝めないだろうな
What is its name?
@@xarxhad8623 patlabor 2
Glad I'm not the only one that looked this up because of what's going on in Russia right now 🫡
Дааа, на улице танки стоят. Уверен ничего не будет.
普通のアニメや映画だと
街に出て来る軍隊は強さとか戦争が始まる恐怖、もしくは自衛隊ガンバレーを写すだけだが
日常に違和感なく溶け込んだ恐怖を描くのはこれだけだわ
描かれる全ての人間がどこか対岸の火事だと思ってるこの雰囲気。自衛隊員でさえ。
実際こうなるんだろうな。戦車配備されても道が混んだくらいにしか思わない
つか3.11の雰囲気がまんまこれだわ
チンパンジー ただ、最初は興奮するな(オタク的思想)
日本人って平時はギャーギャー煩いけどいざ事が起こるとすんなりと受け入れるからな。
Ｐ２みたいに、自衛隊が治安出動したら、日本国は危険国認定され、
ロシア、トルコ パキスタン フィリピン エジプト、タイなど、
ここらみたいに、日本国債が大暴落、国債金利が狂乱上昇という超ド級増税になり、まさに狂乱物価、オイルショックな状態になる。1ドル＝500円になる。日経平均株価も、10000円ぐらい大暴落する事態に。 地価もまた、記録的な大暴落になりそうｗ詳細 一部を表示
@@rikvarz1714 タイトルに英語で書いてある
加藤清 そんなに日本の立場低くねーよ馬鹿
押井守監督は間の作り方がほんとに上手い
Very realistic and clear depiction of the uncertainty and the atmosphere of the approaching war. Saw this in the spring of 2014, saw this in the winter of 2022.
There's nothing quite like the unreal feeling of armed forces in the streets to remind you of how vulnerable you are.
パトレイバー初見だけどこれ一目惚れした。
戒厳令下の日本に謎のノスタルジーを感じる。
あと、この時代のアニメの光の表現すごく好き。多分ポリゴンショック以前はこんな感じで光炊きまくってたんだろうなと思う。
やっぱポリゴンって大戦犯だわ←
パトレイバーに興味持ってくれたのは嬉しいけど、正直この2は他のシリーズと雰囲気違いすぎるからなんとも言えない
劇場版1とテレビシリーズやOVAとかが本来のパトレイバーっぽいけど、劇場版2とWXⅢは別の作品みたいな雰囲気だから
@Arakawalongrider SNCA
押井監督がヘッドギアに集まったのは最後の方で、元々ゆうきまさみと出渕裕の二人で始まった企画なので作品の良し悪しはともかく劇場版2はパトレイバーの名を借りた別物ですね
それで押井監督による実写版の出来も悪かったのでパトレイバーに押井監督は関わるな、とファンからも言われる原因でしょうね
あとWXⅢはポケットの中の戦争の高山文彦が主導した映画で押井監督は関係無いですね
@ALR AL7劇パト 1も旧OVAも監督は押井だぞ
違うのはTV版（続編の新OVA含む）とWⅩⅢだけ
ちなみに劇パト2の脚本はシリーズに最初から係わってる伊藤だぞ
押井が嫌いでもかまわんが何でも押井のせいにするのはどうかと思う
@ALR AL7 好きなのに1と2が別監督だと思ってたの？
ALR AL7
＞1やOVAはギャグアニメも含んでいたので2などとは別物
＞そもそも監督が違うので…
＞パトレイバーの名前を利用した別の映画ですね
↑自分で書いた文章じゃないの？忘れてんの？
君が書いたコメの「戦争を始めようとしていた」の下の
「詳細」ってとこクリックしてみ
懐かしいです。
1993年の真夏に公開された映画でしたが、劇中の季節は真冬。
真冬の澄んだ空気感まで伝わってくる傑作でした。
映画を観終わって、映画館を出ると表は猛暑。
そのギャップがすごく思い出深いです。
この時代の作品好き。
ファッキン異世界転生より古き良き時代の作品をネットフリックスにあげてほしい。
ついに東京でこれが現実に．．．．
しかも明後日(2020/3/29)、関東で大雪予報ってね。。
緊急事態宣言中に見るとまた感慨深いものがあるな
"Hello this is the shopping unit"
"You are now the hoarding unit! Grab everything you lay your hands on!"
At least when there reinforcements turned up they had enough cash to pay for the entire contents of the store.
“You morons! This isn’t no picnic! Think of what will last the longest! Buy ramen by the case!”
These older anime from the 90s were so detailed and hand drawn with so much love and care......the artists and animators were making an art, not just a commercial product to sell toys and merchandise.
押井守にできて庵野秀明にできないのがこういうとこ
The Military Industrial Complex is a terrible affliiction upon humanity.
But damn
It looks so cool
That is why some people hates curiosity because if it's potential on the long term. but i like curiosity.
This had something both intimidating and then magical, first like a clockwork going into place and then the second part had a slight dreamworld-like vibe.
Digital or animated art.
my god, imagine this 80 90s style with today's high resolutions, it will be a dream come true
I love the two military otakus at 5:25, i won't lie, if they had a Patriot Missile launcher or an M1A1 parked in my home town square, i'd want a photo too.
As a person from Ukraine I feel that. There are horrors of war but sometimes there are moments like this when you get mezmerized by how cool and unnatural the situation is and want to watch soldiers and vehicles like a child.
Martial law + no war or war limited to the combat area = strong, united & disciplined society
Да
元自衛官ですが、戦車の旋回のとこだけは違和感。ちなみにこれを中学の時観て自衛官なりました。
上から見た戦車の旋回をイメージするのは難しそうですよね
ロボットには乗れましたか？
@@user-hd3ew9es8n
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と思ったけど、そゆことかw
@@user-hd3ew9es8n レイバーが出来て無いよね。何年後なんだろう。
@@user-lk6vy1tr3z
でも、ガンダムは動くし10式は変形するs
おっと誰か来たようだ
Japan is far ahead of its time that's for sure. One of my favorite animated pieces along side ghost in the shell. Amazing.
그 당시를 살아보진 않았지만 한국도 80년대까진 이와 유사한 상황이 역사에 존재하였기에 더욱 공감되네요
軍事政権時代か
こんなんかっこよすぎるだろ
God damn 90s anime was so detailed. I’m so in love with the bubble time anime.
アニメ見て、怖い、格好いいって思ったのこのシーン
that part at the end where it starts snowing at night in the empty streets with just the vehicles out there is so beautiful in a weird way
what i like about patlabor is how realistic the environment is, the robot is not too big and can't fly and not colorful.
The personnel also have a simple personality, not too much like the Gundam story. All in all I really like this series
Very beautiful cinematography
Translation from Title:
The clip is from "Mobile Police PATLABOR 2 the Movie", after the Nerima garrison incident, the Chief of Staff of the Army, Navy and Air Force resigned, and the confrontation between the Police Department and the Self Defense Force escalated to a white hot stage. That night, the army suddenly "security forces" into Tokyo, declared martial law in the metropolitan area. While Mamoru Oshii's animated films are characterized by large montages depicting scenery, this seven-minute sequence is the longest in the film, with its fine portrayal of military equipment and the state of the characters, and its soundtrack, "Asia" by Kenji Kawai, perfectly creating a sense of urgency on the night of the coup, and the confusion of the soldiers' methodical actions. The "Mobile Police 2" is thus the top military anime in terms of realism.
I think the same is true in Moscow now. Japanese animation and directors are really too realistic and amazing. After all, it is the country that launched the 226 deeds.
Well, as a muscovite I can say that no, there is nothing even remotely like that. Neither I nor anyone I know saw a single military vehicle or soldier. The revolt/coup of the Prigozhin took place for us, as well as for the whole world, in the news and telegram channels. Since the beginning of the war, purely visually and on a personal level, nothing has changed. People go to work, sit in coffee shops, watering trucks clean roads, and public services mow grass in parks. But it feels much better exactly what Oshii originally wanted to show with this scene. In fact, there is no war here, everything around is the same as usual, but there is a feeling of its invisible presence. You don't see it, you don't hear it, but you feel it. You can read in the faces of people constant tension and expectation of something bad. The calmness around is felt as something unnatural and false, you expect it to fall apart at any moment and reveal the ugly truth.
It all started when the police misidentified the actions of the terrorist organization as the Self-Defense Forces and insulted the Self-Defense Forces. The government dispatched the Self-Defense Forces to maintain public order in retaliation against the police. this is not a military coup