Ok i picked up an 07 zx6 for $500 it has a bottom end knock. Attempted a valve chain adjustment no change. The rod in the clutch that goes through the throw out bearing is damaged at the tip. And as I don't know anybody that messed with the 07 much I might as well ask a racer. Outside of all crank/rod bearings what are some common bottom end issues with 07-08
When I bought my clutch pack, it had 2 different thicknesses of steel plates. I assume it matters where they go, but can't find info on that in the manual or online so far. Any advice?
@@kennq507Nope, the question was regarding the steel plates. What he's talking about there is the contact area of the friction plates - different plates and different measurement. I did figure it out a few years ago when I asked the question, but don't remember anymore how that worked out on that bike - sold it over 2 years ago.
What break in time and top speed or rpm can go after get new clutch I was told 6 rpm and 500 miles ... maybe thats wrong or maybe it doesn't matter ? Sucks driving slow maybe some one has better info then what I was told or if some one can confirm it is just what it is. 2022 zx10r
I ordered new steels from the local dealer and they said there were 2 that were thicker than the rest. Not sure where the two go relative to the others...
I have a zx6r and it making a clanking sounds only in 2nd gear when I get on the gas but if I pull the clutch in and rev you don’t hear it and it’s only in 2nd gear I have it on my page to
Hi ,own zx6r 08 ,cluth is not slipping and is changing good but after getting hot a whistle noise came from clutch when the clutch is pressed,need to change the clutch?
Hi, think my clutch is fried on my bike, but never had it happen maybe you can tell me if it is...my bike starts to go like normal then it loses rpm won't move then stalls...even if I rev super high does the same thing
If it were gaining rpm while slowing down, it would be the clutch. That sounds like an electrical or fuel/air issue. Check for stored codes in the ECU (see owners or shop manual).
Your video is a little better than most that I've seen I'm a beginner to motor bikes but I've spent over 30 years working on hot rods so far your video is the best
My clutch cable broke I was able to get a replacement, wasn’t the same one I had but it works, now my bike won’t speed passed 60-70mph it just redlines if I full throttle even if I shift it up to 6th gear it doesn’t want to go passed 60mph, can it be cause of my clutch? I know before I was having issues getting my bike into gear when I try an do a pull. It like slips
I'm putting Kevlar friction plates and uprated springs, as with sintered material it gives better grip so your clutch grabs sooner and will have less tendency to slip. Only worth doing if you like to ride quickly, cork are fine for normal gentle riding but will wear quicker if used hard on road or track.
@@HalfdeadRider i agree,i see you know what you talk about, i just tell you....carefull how quick you wear front discs with fine caliper measuring do it after every 7 days and write it down on garage wall,left and right, also rear, kevlar chews steel fast look at discoloration and darkening ,at those temps there is a chance original discs slide and do not brake, could even shutter in pieces,not while apply brakes, friction at high speed
@InernalCombustion that was sarcasm... you measure/inspect them because there is a service limit listed in the manual. If you like throwing away potentially good parts, go ahead and replace everything. Why bother measuring brakes, why not change oil every ride?
@@ColinBell321 right but I'm assuming people buy a clutch kit, unless you can buy individual clutch plates.....🤣. You mean to tell me that every time your clutch slips you buy an entire clutch kit and use one or 2 of the plates?
@InernalCombustion fair point 😆. This was a race bike, and I had a bin full of spare plates. Ones that measured bad got tossed, and the good ones saved for a later date.
I bought a 04 zx-6r, drove great and shifted good for the first couple rides till one I turned it off and went to first gear with the clutch and it just died, I can see the clutch moving in the casing but it still dies and when the bike is off there is still some resistance to movement with the clutch lever fully engaged. Not sure what could be the issue or what's causing it not to fully disengage the clutch? Your help would be great.
I don't have the tool to measure the thickness of things but if I'm replacing everything with oem parts is there even a need to ? I'd assume it wouldn't be out of spec with new oem parts
Thats trusting without verifying. Even if its oem, why trust something thats new to you. Always do it safely so you can say you werent the one that was an idiot and fucked up without checking first
Hola, le escribo ya que está usted dando una información errónea, debido a que el último disco de fricción lo tiene que mover hasta que se aloje en la carcasa en las ranuras diferentes al resto como lo hizo en un principio pero luego lo movió a las ranuras de los demás dejando ese más montado.... un saludo 👋 gass 🍀
Hi Colin watching you from Portugal. Great Video. Bought an accidented (small) ZX6R with 50KKm couldnt engage the clutch and after moving ajusting cable screws plus pressing several times the cluch lever it worked. While riding the bike when i wanted to acelarate fast it would increase rpms but not the speed. Slipping I guess. Next day clutch had a litle course, bike would start moving slowly and, after some tries, I could engage 1st gear but releasing the lever the bike would not move even when accelerating. Any advice, would you say this is a clutch problem? Cheers and keep up with your great videos.
@@ColinBell321 Not really, but due to your first answer I opened the full system cleand it, considering that the bike didn't work for a little while, and...solved. God Bless.
Creo que Tienes que asegurarte de cerrar el "kickstand" antes de ponerla en 1ra...y a viceversa tambien puedes apagarla bajando el kick stand sin darle al botón de apagado.
My 2009 zx6r is doing something weird. When I downshift from 3rd to 2nd gear it goes into neutral. It's as if it's skipping second gear. My oil in the bike is still fresh and was changed a thousand miles ago. Does this mean I need a new clutch or is it a different issue????
@@BodyRocker9 dam bro sorry to hear, it's driving me nuts 🤯 I think we both need new clutches.. Take my advice and go OEM or OEM replacement but don't spend 500$$ on an aftermarket that won't even last long
@@ayosirsnow yeah and mines a 07 Zx6r, I’m gonna take it to the shop this week, my mechanic was saying could be user error but it just started doing it and never had the issue before. I’m kinda wondering if I should of just saved up more cash and bought new.
@@BodyRocker9 yea I feel you bro. Let me know what he says or what happens and I'll do the same. There are other possibilities like a shift fork for example and a drum spring. But I'm pretty sure it's the clutch
on bikebandit the diagram show one friction plate, steel plate, friction plate, then the rings..... Is this wrong? cause you put them in before the second friction plate? Jc and Those plates look oem so are only oem packs the ones that come with the two large contact pads friction plates?
That is correct. The ring OD is smaller than the friction plate ID, so they will sit against the steel plate, even if you install them after the friction plate.
Colin Bell and the steel plates go in with the polished side away from engine? Like one side on the teeth have a round edge kinda and other side is flat.
@@coreyhickman9082 since the plates are stamped, one side has a sharper edge than the other. It's not intentional, just a a product of manufacturing. Which way they face is not critical.
Hey i just got my kit in today from a local shop and all my friction plates are the same is that a problem i dont see any difference in the pad size, also what year is your bike and is it a 600 or 636 on bikebandit they show only 5 frictions plates... how many do you have
This is an annual/consumable part on a race bike. And on principle, I don't like throwing away good parts. If they still have life left in them, they get used.
@@ademkaramusa6491 whatever motor oil the bike takes, and if they're new they shouldn't need to be cleaned. If they are not new, you don't need to soak them.
When your clutch starts slipping... replace the plates.. ALL OF THEM.
Thanks for a very good thorough steps.
You didn't show putting the cover back
Ok i picked up an 07 zx6 for $500 it has a bottom end knock. Attempted a valve chain adjustment no change. The rod in the clutch that goes through the throw out bearing is damaged at the tip. And as I don't know anybody that messed with the 07 much I might as well ask a racer. Outside of all crank/rod bearings what are some common bottom end issues with 07-08
Thanks!!!
When I bought my clutch pack, it had 2 different thicknesses of steel plates. I assume it matters where they go, but can't find info on that in the manual or online so far. Any advice?
he explains here the difference here 6:24 I believe is what you’re looking for
@@kennq507Nope, the question was regarding the steel plates. What he's talking about there is the contact area of the friction plates - different plates and different measurement.
I did figure it out a few years ago when I asked the question, but don't remember anymore how that worked out on that bike - sold it over 2 years ago.
What break in time and top speed or rpm can go after get new clutch I was told 6 rpm and 500 miles ... maybe thats wrong or maybe it doesn't matter ? Sucks driving slow maybe some one has better info then what I was told or if some one can confirm it is just what it is. 2022 zx10r
There is no break in time. Let the engine warm up and give er'!
I have a 05 zx 6r and when I put the clutch in there were 2 thicker steal plates but when I measured the old ones there was only one thick steel plate
I had the same thing on my 06' I just went by what PartZilla had listed
I ordered new steels from the local dealer and they said there were 2 that were thicker than the rest. Not sure where the two go relative to the others...
Need help on my clutch plates put ll new ones and when started the bike there was no coutch
Is it fully engaged or disengaged?
What are your Springs torqued to?
I have a zx6r and it making a clanking sounds only in 2nd gear when I get on the gas but if I pull the clutch in and rev you don’t hear it and it’s only in 2nd gear I have it on my page to
Does it matter where the friction plates are inserted? I noticed there a divet on each one and you put them on the gear in different orientations.
No, the manual does not make mention of their orientation. I staggered them just because.
Hi ,own zx6r 08 ,cluth is not slipping and is changing good but after getting hot a whistle noise came from clutch when the clutch is pressed,need to change the clutch?
Hi, think my clutch is fried on my bike, but never had it happen maybe you can tell me if it is...my bike starts to go like normal then it loses rpm won't move then stalls...even if I rev super high does the same thing
If it were gaining rpm while slowing down, it would be the clutch. That sounds like an electrical or fuel/air issue. Check for stored codes in the ECU (see owners or shop manual).
Your video is a little better than most that I've seen I'm a beginner to motor bikes but I've spent over 30 years working on hot rods so far your video is the best
My clutch cable broke I was able to get a replacement, wasn’t the same one I had but it works, now my bike won’t speed passed 60-70mph it just redlines if I full throttle even if I shift it up to 6th gear it doesn’t want to go passed 60mph, can it be cause of my clutch? I know before I was having issues getting my bike into gear when I try an do a pull. It like slips
Is there supposed to be two thicker steal plates
Your last friction plate goes in the different notch
You're right. I made a mistake in the video. I've run it both ways and noticed no difference though.
@@ColinBell321 wasn't sure if that would be the problem or not
Cork or sinterized metal,why are there those different kinds ,what do they used them for
I'm putting Kevlar friction plates and uprated springs, as with sintered material it gives better grip so your clutch grabs sooner and will have less tendency to slip. Only worth doing if you like to ride quickly, cork are fine for normal gentle riding but will wear quicker if used hard on road or track.
@@HalfdeadRider i agree,i see you know what you talk about, i just tell you....carefull how quick you wear front discs with fine caliper measuring do it after every 7 days and write it down on garage wall,left and right, also rear, kevlar chews steel fast look at discoloration and darkening ,at those temps there is a chance original discs slide and do not brake, could even shutter in pieces,not while apply brakes, friction at high speed
Ineed help finding the clutch kit for a good price
Is there any certain orientation that clutch hubs needs to be reinstalled?
What's the ft torque for the clutch spring?
Yea what is it? Anyone knows?
Why go through the hassle of measuring them? Why not just replace all the plates
Why go through the hassle of measuring anything? May as well just replace it all 🤷
@@ColinBell321 yea that's what I'm asking
@InernalCombustion that was sarcasm... you measure/inspect them because there is a service limit listed in the manual. If you like throwing away potentially good parts, go ahead and replace everything. Why bother measuring brakes, why not change oil every ride?
@@ColinBell321 right but I'm assuming people buy a clutch kit, unless you can buy individual clutch plates.....🤣. You mean to tell me that every time your clutch slips you buy an entire clutch kit and use one or 2 of the plates?
@InernalCombustion fair point 😆. This was a race bike, and I had a bin full of spare plates. Ones that measured bad got tossed, and the good ones saved for a later date.
I have a 95 zx600 dont know what starter i need....
Thanks for the video, helped on my own racebike
I bought a 04 zx-6r, drove great and shifted good for the first couple rides till one I turned it off and went to first gear with the clutch and it just died, I can see the clutch moving in the casing but it still dies and when the bike is off there is still some resistance to movement with the clutch lever fully engaged. Not sure what could be the issue or what's causing it not to fully disengage the clutch? Your help would be great.
Most likely turned out to be a poorly adjusted cable preventing the clutch fully engaging.
U used second hand parts for clutch :))))
I don't have the tool to measure the thickness of things but if I'm replacing everything with oem parts is there even a need to ? I'd assume it wouldn't be out of spec with new oem parts
Thats trusting without verifying. Even if its oem, why trust something thats new to you. Always do it safely so you can say you werent the one that was an idiot and fucked up without checking first
Had a look at a zx9r gearbox I bought. Had clutch as well with it. Noticed the washer and spring were on 1st then all friction plates n steels.
Hola, le escribo ya que está usted dando una información errónea, debido a que el último disco de fricción lo tiene que mover hasta que se aloje en la carcasa en las ranuras diferentes al resto como lo hizo en un principio pero luego lo movió a las ranuras de los demás dejando ese más montado.... un saludo 👋 gass 🍀
Soy uno de tus seguidores att Guatemala
What are some common problems for bad clutch plates I have a 06 and likes to jolt when upshifting could that be the problem?
It'll start shifting smoother, more like an automatic car. It won't bite hard into the next gear.
Hi Colin watching you from Portugal. Great Video. Bought an accidented (small) ZX6R with 50KKm couldnt engage the clutch and after moving ajusting cable screws plus pressing several times the cluch lever it worked. While riding the bike when i wanted to acelarate fast it would increase rpms but not the speed. Slipping I guess. Next day clutch had a litle course, bike would start moving slowly and, after some tries, I could engage 1st gear but releasing the lever the bike would not move even when accelerating. Any advice, would you say this is a clutch problem? Cheers and keep up with your great videos.
Thanks for the kind words Jorge. That defenitely sounds like a slipping clutch. Do you have any free play in the clutch lever when it's released?
@@ColinBell321 Not really, but due to your first answer I opened the full system cleand it, considering that the bike didn't work for a little while, and...solved. God Bless.
Amigo tengo un proble con mi kawasaki arranca en neutro pero cuando le doy primera se apaga auque deje el clushe metido ayuda porfavor
Creo que Tienes que asegurarte de cerrar el "kickstand" antes de ponerla en 1ra...y a viceversa tambien puedes apagarla bajando el kick stand sin darle al botón de apagado.
My 2009 zx6r is doing something weird.
When I downshift from 3rd to 2nd gear it goes into neutral. It's as if it's skipping second gear. My oil in the bike is still fresh and was changed a thousand miles ago. Does this mean I need a new clutch or is it a different issue????
Mines doing the same thing but when shifting up
@@BodyRocker9 dam bro sorry to hear, it's driving me nuts 🤯 I think we both need new clutches.. Take my advice and go OEM or OEM replacement but don't spend 500$$ on an aftermarket that won't even last long
@@ayosirsnow yeah and mines a 07 Zx6r, I’m gonna take it to the shop this week, my mechanic was saying could be user error but it just started doing it and never had the issue before. I’m kinda wondering if I should of just saved up more cash and bought new.
@@BodyRocker9 yea I feel you bro. Let me know what he says or what happens and I'll do the same. There are other possibilities like a shift fork for example and a drum spring. But I'm pretty sure it's the clutch
what year is this zx6r
2008
@@ColinBell321 thanks. i have an 06. plates on disengage. after replacement. all parts complete.
@@ColinBell321 I have an 082 with torque specs did you use for your pressure plate and cover?
on bikebandit the diagram show one friction plate, steel plate, friction plate, then the rings..... Is this wrong? cause you put them in before the second friction plate? Jc and Those plates look oem so are only oem packs the ones that come with the two large contact pads friction plates?
That is correct. The ring OD is smaller than the friction plate ID, so they will sit against the steel plate, even if you install them after the friction plate.
Colin Bell and the steel plates go in with the polished side away from engine? Like one side on the teeth have a round edge kinda and other side is flat.
@@coreyhickman9082 since the plates are stamped, one side has a sharper edge than the other. It's not intentional, just a a product of manufacturing. Which way they face is not critical.
Hey i just got my kit in today from a local shop and all my friction plates are the same is that a problem i dont see any difference in the pad size, also what year is your bike and is it a 600 or 636 on bikebandit they show only 5 frictions plates... how many do you have
Is there supposed to be two bigger steal plates
You put a judder spring wrong
Wonder if this is the same on a 2016 zx6r
Have you switched yours out yet?
@@afroswagger1754 no I haven't but nice weather approaching so I want to do it before summer hits. Do you ride a zx6r?
sir snow yes I do a 2016 aswell, what are you experiencing that you are switching your plates?
@@afroswagger1754 clutch slipping which actually causes loss of power mainly in lower rpm
sir snow mine is mainly in second gear, and my top speed is reduced. Are you getting oem?
I think it's my clutch wanna sell it
I’m sorry why not just replace everything and not be cheap pay once cry once and not have to take it apart every time
This is an annual/consumable part on a race bike. And on principle, I don't like throwing away good parts. If they still have life left in them, they get used.
@@ColinBell321 to each there own I suppose
I have a question, Do you need to soak clutch plates in oil before installing?
Yep, overnight.
@@ColinBell321 in what kind of oil and how to clean them before soaking them into the oil?
@@ademkaramusa6491 whatever motor oil the bike takes, and if they're new they shouldn't need to be cleaned. If they are not new, you don't need to soak them.