I've spent 25 years in the paddock in US and Europe and aee roadrace mechanics just "slap it together". Following the tips from this video will give rookie team mechanic a quick leg up and consistent performance out of the clutch.
Hey thanks for taking the time to explain all of this man. I can't tell you how informative it was from a real world perspective. I appreciate you doing this!
Best, most informative video about Clutches that I've ever seen. Great job guys 👍 I can only add that if you see those little high-spots on a steel plate, you will almost always see little grooves around the fiber plate right where the high spot is on the steel plate and conversely, if you see a little groove in a fiber plate. look closely at the steel plate and you'll more than likely see a high spot on the steel that matches where the groove is on the fiber...
Thanks Brock, you style was perfect for me. The parts of the video needing time to explain were given the time they needed and the same is true of the parts that where simple or repetitive. You had my attention for the entire 50 minutes.
I couldn't believe this video was almost an hour long. I was so into the entire thing that I didn't even notice until you said something. Every detail of the clutch system was discussed. I felt like I was in a tech class for motorcycles. Almost tried to raise my hand. 😂 Many thanks for posting this video. I realized instantly what my problem was and still watched the rest. Enjoyed the educational experience in all of its entirety. Look forward to next class. Thanks again for taking the time.
Thanks Brock. Rebuilding my V45 Magna and watching videos like this are really relaxing and interesting. You really pay attention to detail. I appreciate that.
I really appreciated the patience you put in and detailed information sharing out to all 2 wheeler. I am looking out for more posts, great videos Brock!
You're probably the best bloke in the business Brock . My mate and I ran modified bike 9 second dial in. The 1990,s.. The bandit build you explained was priceless. Thanks for sharing your knowledge..
This is why Brock is the best, I've been building bikes and cars to race for nearly 20 years and I still learn vital tips and tricks from watching Brock's videos. The fact its all provided free of charge is brilliant but it's also an insight into why the Brocks Performance products are so damn good and deliver the winning results on the track and street.
@martin hodgson - thank you for the kind words. I have intended to do a video like this for years, but it wasn't in the budget. We allocated more funds for UA-cam in 2018, and positive comments like these will help us to continue... well, comments and product purchases from www.BrocksPerformance.com
@Brock Davidson I have a question I have a 2018 gsxr1000 base model and when I put the bike in gear and hold the clutch in the bike moves forward and when I am rideing it it is hard to shift gears and when at stop can't get the bike in natural when I change the oil it was some what gunky on the oil plug grays color the bike has 11k miles on it still same oem clutch sorry for any inconvenience and all the questions anything would help
Today is the end of my 1st year of drag racing. I’ve made a point to take out time to thank those who knowing or unknowingly assisted me. I purchased my alien head 2 full system almost 2 years ago from your website & slowly piece by piece attempted to follow your stock to Brock’s for my 2015 zx-14r. Like most rookies I’ve failed a lot but I kept regrouping. Your video on clutch maintenance helped me find a problem that has bothered me all year. Clutch basket had slack it cause a break in my inner basket & broke my shift selector multiple times. I repaired the basket & made progress on my stock motor thanks keep up the good work! Your Clutch mod & springs gave my bike the ability to hold mph.
@Terrance Sampson - thank you for the kind words. Drag racing is exciting/fun/challenging - but it can also be very frustrating when 'hidden' problems hamper progress. Your appreciation is exactly why we take the time to produce these vids. Good luck, be safe, GO FAST!
Many thanks for the detailed explanation Brock, put across in such a friendly, non-patronising way. I own a 2012 ZZR1400, and this has helped me understand my bike a whole lot better.
We all started out knowing little or nothing about every aspect of motorcycling.. but we learn because we love it. I used to hate when people acted like I was a dumbass for asking a question and have tried my best to be respectful to all knowledge levels.
@@BrockDavidson There are no dumb questions. Thank you - I have something that needs just this fix! I broke things and fixed a lot of junk. Drove and rode at speeds that - well - my Mother-inlaw was in the pass seat. And as I topped it out, she yells, "Holy F". Honest - I was smiling like all get out!
Brock Davidson Hi Brock, I have been having a problem with my 2018 GSXR 750’s clutch. It seems to be knocking when trying to get moving from a stand still. It tends to do it once the oil is warmed up. I have checked the sprockets and chain and they seem to check out alright. Here is a video of what happens. ua-cam.com/video/vs6GRp31eOM/v-deo.html I would greatly appreciate it if you can diagnose that as the dealer I bought it from isnt much help. Thanks.
Thanks brock for this video as a zx14 owner we definitely are in a class of our own. Us zx14 owners love well informed videos of this bike and wish there were more like yours.
Mate , I enjoy these tutorials so much , I just scored a ZX14R SE '13 , and I am learning a lot from all your ZX14R series , thanks for taking the time to put it all together for us .
The Best video I have seen on assembly of clutches.The way you shared your experience and knowledge with such simplicity kept me glued to your presentation. Thank you for sharing your learnings :)
I don't even have a street bike or anything kind of bike anymore, but I watched your full video and I feel that I know a lot more now than I knew years ago when I did have a banshee that I thought that I know how to replace the clutch, Good job brotha
Thanks for the video! T he parts guy could not believe it when I bought half a set of plates, because I was replacing only the worn out parts years ago. Thanks for such an honest informative video.
I absolutely love these informative videos. I'm a maintenance tech by trade. I know mechanical systems. I really appreciate these. Couldn't learn from a better person. I would usually replace my whole clutch with the kit provided. This next time around I'm going to stretch this clutch kit out by replacing only what's bad. I really never gave it a second thought about scrutinizing each plate and fiber.
Just reiterating the other comments.. I did learn lots more about bike clutch set-up and maintenance in that one video than so many other vids on here. Keep up the great work. Regards Richard from Australia
Save the new clutch as long as possible. The word is going around that it is no problem to let your clutch hang between engaged and disengaged... the clutch was never meant to be between these positions. In fact, it is made to transfer energy from the engine to the drive wheel smoothly and that puts enough wear and tear on it without deliberately dragging the clutch... which is called burning the clutch. If you know of a long light that you have going to work it is best to shift to neutral and sit which puts no wear on the clutch. I have noticed that MSF and the Police Rodeo are advocating to drag your clutch (burn) to get a slower movement... this will tare up clutch plates. When the clutch goes out in the mountains it will not be a fun ride.
You are top man.Thank you for showing the tricks and ways to inspect the clutch.I have 4th zzr1400 and absolutely adore this motorcycle and its build equality.
Brock thanks I enjoyed, I learned a couple things and really liked the video thumbs up. I’ll be looking at the rest of your tech talk videos in the near future.
Replaced the clutch on an old Kawasaki KZ750 years back and I tried to torque those spring loaded bolts down and ended up ripping the head off one of them, it wasn't a new bike and I freaked out that I wouldn't be able to get the right bolt again or even remove the rest of it but got lucky and a friend had an old 400 or 450 from the same generation laying around gathering rust. definitely a learning experience.
I think we have all been there? I used to think the OEM's used soft/shitty clutch bolts on purpose...now I know the heat generated in the clutch area anneals the bolts and makes them soft. That's why all of our clutch bolts are grade 8 out of the package.
I bought my Busa's billet clutch mod from you and fitted it myself. Bike has been perfect. After watching this, I think I could have done better on the springs. Great insights, thanks.
Wow, great video man. I now have a much greater understanding of how exactly a motor cycle clutch operates and goes together. I work in auto body and listen to your vidoes all day while im working. Great stuff keep them coming. And a huge Thank You...
Hi Brock i am from South Africa and have been in drag racing for many years and even build Suzuki GSX Motors and a tap on the shoulder for you for the way you explain things and also why you do it that way.Well done mate and keep it up and you must get a market for your exhaust systems here in Cape Town where i stay Regards Albie
@@BrockDavidson sure i will do so an a very good friend if mine has a Motorcycle Service Centre and i think that he might be interested and you also sell extended swing arms?
The ZX14 friction plates are such a good design....I have cleaned up metal plates with scotch bright or 600grit wet/dry paper and reassemble ....amazing bikes
I watched this hoping to know how clutch works, I didn’t figure it at all, but understood bad clutch implications and this is maintenance explanation. I like a lot your style!
Brock, Thank you Sir. For the very informative clutch maintenance seminar. Lol. I know now way more then I did about my 2016 ZX14R SE. Clutch. ! And I saved this to go back and listen again and again what you said so it's stamped in my brain. Thank you. So very much. ! God Bless. !
I got a 08 zx10r I appreciate the detail that you went into just for all of us. I'm doing my clutch for the first time, I think I may have cooked my clutch that was im sure in need of being replaced after the first season of riding. I have some mild gruving in my clutch basket. Ran finger over it and I can't feel the spots so I think that's alright. I'm just not familiar with clutch fiber plates and the sharp edged steel plates. Not sure if it's relevant but my steel plates don't feel very sharp on the outer edges or along the contact spots for the fiber plates. If you or anyone else has some insight it would be greatly appreciated
@Christopher - glad you like our vids. The metal plates are stamped, so the "sharp" edge is on one side and the smooth is on the other. Some are harder to feel than others, so if you don't know...neither will your bike. Put them in however you like :)
Great vedio bro man and a great lesson on clutch and your clutch basket overall..tips that will keep you and your baby runing better for a life times..keep up the good works and blessing to you your team and family
Getting ready to do my gen 5 vfr800 ive done prob dozen other bikes so id say I know enough to do but love how ya broke all down and explained lots thank you
Thank you for great video and detailed explanation. You help me to avoid 5/6 hundred pounds bill My clutch on my honda vfr1200f was slipping on high reves After opening my clutch cover 3 times was giving up. 1st time i changed clutch fibers Worked 3/4 days and back to same slipping. 2nd time i changed metal disks. Same 3rd time springs. Same. Then replaced master cylinder, slave cylinder and hose new fluid. Same. I was going to take it to garage tomorrow. 😩 After watching yor video today i have opened it for 4th time and managed to fixe it. I sow deep groves on the clutch basket. I took a file and after 1 hour in shed was looking like new. Then installed a diamond disk on my bench grinder and angle grinder and made interlocking clutch basket by changing angle on the basket tooth- male and female. Just came back from test ride I'm still smiling 😃😊🙂😀 Going to treat my girls with something nice. God bless you All the best 👍
Another great video from Brock. I have worked on many different bikes over the years and all I can say is, listen and learn from this video. A good clutch makes the bike.
Thank you so much Brock for this video, as a owner of a 2016 ZX-14r I'm constantly looking for tech information about my bike. As I love for looking at ways to making things faster and run better...Thanks again for sharing your wealth of experience to help out others who enjoy our sport.
fwh79 lol and thanks for your concern on our subscriber count. I'm pretty sure we will catch on, but until then - please tell your friends about us as we prefer organic growth to the use a service that brings non-enthusiasts to our page just to make the numbers look good.
Brock Davidson: You do a great job and I want you to know how much I respect you, your team, and all the hard work all you guys put in every week. There are so many channels on youtube that are just posers. Yet, they have hundreds of thousands subbed up. I hope your channel catches on because you deserve way more attention. Keep doing what you do. There are plenty of people out here who really respect your opinion. Thank you again!
As a Motocross rider, now getting back on the Street, Pay close attention to the cable length changes on your Clutch. As the Plates wear, the length increases. Granted, this may not apply to Hyd Clutches, but my GSXR has Cable.
I watched the video helping me to do the oil pump upgrade. Where you spin the clutch pack freely. Mine does not. I took everything off and just put the inner hub on and it still drags us there anything I’m missing. It is in neutral. I can get it to shift into first and neutral that’s it. It will not go into 2nd or any higher gear.
Some drag is normal as you are spinning the input shaft and associated transmission gears. The Kaws won't let you shift into 2nd and above unless the bike is moving (Kawasaki positive neutral finder) .. So that's normal also.
@H2 Beast Mode - also, the clutch steels and frictions are not installed in my demo. The effort required to spin the inner hub is considerably more difficult when they are installed.
Brock Davidson I assumed that. I did messaged you on Facebook with a video of it. I show it in the basket and out of the basket. I don’t have my rear stand under my bike I have it resetting on my kickstand I’m not sure if that makes a difference. I can’t see anything wrong with it unless I bent the shaft some how when trying to torque the main nut on it.
That was a top tier video. Thanks. It is surprising how similar the clutch is to a automatic transmission setup, I expected it to be something different. I enjoyed watching your thorough inspection techniques. That is probably the most important aspect of being a competent dyi builder/racer. It is an art to be able to see and understand the clues of what is happening inside the machine.. it will tell you what is wrong if you can spot the signs.
I know nothing about clutches..im just a street rider....but i would really like to go grab a beer with you brother and keep the clutch convo going!! Great vid.
There is so much information these days that even we have trouble referencing it all - so we create the time stamps to speed things along. Glad you noticed :)
Love these videos. I'd watch and listen to them all day! I've had a clutch apart that far but am guilty of just dropping in a whole new stack. Def informative and learned a ton
How do you adjust the clutch free play and actual adjustments for engagement/ disengagement with a Hydraulic clutch on a zx14r. No one seems to talk about this. I know new fibers that are oiled will swell and can cause creep. Dry hops will wear them back to normal height, but you need to adjust the clutch engagement/disengagement. On a normal clutch with a cable I know how to do that. This is my first Hydro clutch and understand how it works in principal. The master cylinder send hydro pressure to a slave cylinder that moves a puck and this pulls the hat in and let’s the plates slip past each other. where is the actual adjustment for that process of the slave Cylinder. On all the stuff I worked on in the past, there is a set screw and lock but in the center of the clutch hat and you break the nut, back off the center set screw, then start turning that in until you have the free play you want in clutch lever and lock down that nut and your done. This is a whole different world and I can’t find the info on proper adjustment of the hydro clutch engagement/ dis engagement as well as free play in the lever on my 2013 zx-14r. I did watch a Ricky Gadson video and he used your stuff with track king fibers and steels. He said that the clutch head/hat should be flush with the fingers of the basket. My bike 3,600 original miles is no where near being flush, they must of been riding this bike out of adjustment as the stack height is way thin if that statement is true about fingers to hat being flush. Sorry for the long winded post, can I call and speak to you about everything and order some shit to fix my bike properly?
Hydraulic clutches are self-adjusting (aka, no free play since they don't need it). The engagement is adjusted from the wheel on the clutch lever as well as stack height adjustments via thicker/thinner steels and/or fibers. Ignore comparing your OEM plate situation compared to aftermarket....the reason they are so inexpensive is because they are a generic fitment/not direct OEM replacement and no, they are not flush.
@@BrockDavidson Thanks so much, I was freaked out that the man burned up my clutch plates. I need to update it anyway. I want to stage race this bike. So I’ll be calling for an order soon. On a different subject, can you tell me how to pull codes on a 2013 zx-14r. It doesn’t have that Mode- Reset button like Gen1, and the holding the Select button like a 2017 and up does.
I've watched a few of your videos & theyre really good. Its people like yourself that enable us bikers to tackle jobs with confidence!! Keep up the good work Brock!! Much appreciated!!
I have a 1998 Kawasaki Voyager XII (1200cc) and have the same clutch slipping problem. To make this comment short I have done the same to the clutch. I replaced the clutch frictions with new generic frictions (paper cork material) and also replaced with new 6 clutch springs (generic). The steel clutch plates are excellent (no hot spots or warpage). Went for a test ride and the clutch still slips while accelerating hard in 4th and 5th gear. I dissembled and shimmed the 6 springs with .091" washers (1 under each spring) to increase spring pressure and that reduced slippage by 85%. My question is should I have installed Kevlar frictions instead of generic paper-cork? Maybe Kawasaki used Kevlar frictions when the bike was new. Your video is great and explains everything you need to know. Thanks Brock.
@289 Mustang - as a general rule we only use OEM clutch steels and fibers. I'm not saying the aftermarket units won't work, or can't be made to work...I am saying I don't have time to figure out the formula to do it. How are you measuring your slippage? Seat of the pants or dyno?
@@BrockDavidson Thank You for the quick reply. I'm measuring slippage by the seat of my pants and the Tach. I think later this year I'm going to buy a set of Kevlar frictions. From the info I found "Both Kevlar and Carbon clutch fibers will grip better than OEM." Maybe Kevlar will be the answer. Thanks for the information enjoy your videos.
@@289mustang8 Careful not to confuse "grip" with "grab". I hate a grabby clutch (never a problem with OEM) aftermarket "marketing" jargin can get confusing, frustrating, and expensive. Before jumping ship on what you have, please also consider that some motor oils (especially "wet clutch approved") can cause slip. If you can add more shims (or aftermarket springs) without coil bind, you can stop all slippage.
@@BrockDavidson I only rode the cycle for a mile because of weather so the next nice day I will give it another try. I'm using Castrol GTX motor oil which has great lubricating properties. Years ago I had a (used) cycle with a grabby clutch and changed oil to Castrol GTX and that fixed the grabby issue. Maybe my next oil change I could try another brand. I checked for coil bind while adding shims and I'm getting close but could be room to shim a little more. Appreciate all your tips. Thank You.
I’m only 20 minutes in but already feel like an expert on clutches, thank you for taking the time to make this video and explain each part
Same
That aerosol cap and masking tape to keep the clutch lever from depressing screams of a lessen already learnt the hard way 😆
Wow! "the guys in the factory know more than we do". I trust humble people and this is the best clutch video every. thank you.
Whenever I'm in a down mood all I need to too is watch (sometimes re-watch) a Brock tutorial to feel better. Thanks!
most informative video about Clutches that I've ever seen
I've spent 25 years in the paddock in US and Europe and aee roadrace mechanics just "slap it together". Following the tips from this video will give rookie team mechanic a quick leg up and consistent performance out of the clutch.
Thanks Brock! I just learned more about clutches in 49 minutes than I have in the previous 49 years!
thanks Brock, this is the sort of thing that distinguishes aftermarket developers from one another.
Hey thanks for taking the time to explain all of this man. I can't tell you how informative it was from a real world perspective. I appreciate you doing this!
Best, most informative video about Clutches that I've ever seen. Great job guys 👍
I can only add that if you see those little high-spots on a steel plate, you will almost always see little grooves around the fiber plate right where the high spot is on the steel plate and conversely, if you see a little groove in a fiber plate. look closely at the steel plate and you'll more than likely see a high spot on the steel that matches where the groove is on the fiber...
Thanks Brock, you style was perfect for me. The parts of the video needing time to explain were given the time they needed and the same is true of the parts that where simple or repetitive. You had my attention for the entire 50 minutes.
I couldn't believe this video was almost an hour long. I was so into the entire thing that I didn't even notice until you said something. Every detail of the clutch system was discussed. I felt like I was in a tech class for motorcycles. Almost tried to raise my hand. 😂 Many thanks for posting this video. I realized instantly what my problem was and still watched the rest. Enjoyed the educational experience in all of its entirety. Look forward to next class. Thanks again for taking the time.
I'm new to bikes and for someone with next to no experience this was very well explained !! Thank you !
Thanks Brock. Rebuilding my V45 Magna and watching videos like this are really relaxing and interesting. You really pay attention to detail. I appreciate that.
I really appreciated the patience you put in and detailed information sharing out to all 2 wheeler. I am looking out for more posts, great videos Brock!
You're probably the best bloke in the business Brock . My mate and I ran modified bike 9 second dial in. The 1990,s.. The bandit build you explained was priceless. Thanks for sharing your knowledge..
This is why Brock is the best, I've been building bikes and cars to race for nearly 20 years and I still learn vital tips and tricks from watching Brock's videos. The fact its all provided free of charge is brilliant but it's also an insight into why the Brocks Performance products are so damn good and deliver the winning results on the track and street.
@martin hodgson - thank you for the kind words. I have intended to do a video like this for years, but it wasn't in the budget. We allocated more funds for UA-cam in 2018, and positive comments like these will help us to continue... well, comments and product purchases from www.BrocksPerformance.com
@Brock Davidson I have a question I have a 2018 gsxr1000 base model and when I put the bike in gear and hold the clutch in the bike moves forward and when I am rideing it it is hard to shift gears and when at stop can't get the bike in natural when I change the oil it was some what gunky on the oil plug grays color the bike has 11k miles on it still same oem clutch sorry for any inconvenience and all the questions anything would help
brocksperformance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360060427952-What-is-Clutch-Creep-and-what-causes-it-
Today is the end of my 1st year of drag racing. I’ve made a point to take out time to thank those who knowing or unknowingly assisted me. I purchased my alien head 2 full system almost 2 years ago from your website & slowly piece by piece attempted to follow your stock to Brock’s for my 2015 zx-14r. Like most rookies I’ve failed a lot but I kept regrouping. Your video on clutch
maintenance helped me find a problem that has bothered me all year.
Clutch basket had slack it cause a break in my inner basket & broke my shift selector multiple times. I repaired the basket & made progress on my stock motor thanks keep up the good work!
Your Clutch mod & springs gave my bike the ability to hold mph.
@Terrance Sampson - thank you for the kind words. Drag racing is exciting/fun/challenging - but it can also be very frustrating when 'hidden' problems hamper progress. Your appreciation is exactly why we take the time to produce these vids. Good luck, be safe, GO FAST!
Many thanks for the detailed explanation Brock, put across in such a friendly, non-patronising way. I own a 2012 ZZR1400, and this has helped me understand my bike a whole lot better.
We all started out knowing little or nothing about every aspect of motorcycling.. but we learn because we love it. I used to hate when people acted like I was a dumbass for asking a question and have tried my best to be respectful to all knowledge levels.
That's what comes across so well in your videos. A good teacher never assumes anything.
@@BrockDavidson There are no dumb questions. Thank you - I have something that needs just this fix! I broke things and fixed a lot of junk. Drove and rode at speeds that - well - my Mother-inlaw was in the pass seat. And as I topped it out, she yells, "Holy F". Honest - I was smiling like all get out!
Thank you
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Brock Davidson Hi Brock, I have been having a problem with my 2018 GSXR 750’s clutch. It seems to be knocking when trying to get moving from a stand still. It tends to do it once the oil is warmed up. I have checked the sprockets and chain and they seem to check out alright. Here is a video of what happens. ua-cam.com/video/vs6GRp31eOM/v-deo.html I would greatly appreciate it if you can diagnose that as the dealer I bought it from isnt much help. Thanks.
I want to replace my clutch where are you location
Definitely a long video but it went quickly because I'm learning so much. Really great stuff Brock, thanks for taking us through it!
Brock you are the man! Real talk, without any BS.
Thanks brock for this video as a zx14 owner we definitely are in a class of our own. Us zx14 owners love well informed videos of this bike and wish there were more like yours.
The best clutch instructional video I've seen - many thanks Brock - pity you're in the US and I'm in the UK - take care and ride safe
@Tony Tucker - Glad you like our vid!! Btw, world location just doesn't matter as much these days. More Info: bit.ly/3aXtFTK
Thank you Brock for sharing your knowledge. I don't drag race bikes, only road race, and your info is just as useful !
Mate , I enjoy these tutorials so much , I just scored a ZX14R SE '13 , and I am learning a lot from all your ZX14R series , thanks for taking the time to put it all together for us .
Hey! I did also. How many miles on yours when it went? Mine had 10,000 on mine. Thanks.
I have that same issue..I plan on replacing my clutches and doing the clutch mod as well
The Best video I have seen on assembly of clutches.The way you shared your experience and knowledge with such simplicity kept me glued to your presentation. Thank you for sharing your learnings :)
Best motorcycle clutch tech talk on youtube good job brock👍
I don't even have a street bike or anything kind of bike anymore, but I watched your full video and I feel that I know a lot more now than I knew years ago when I did have a banshee that I thought that I know how to replace the clutch, Good job brotha
Knew how to replace the clutch
Thanks for the video! T he parts guy could not believe it when I bought half a set of plates, because I was replacing only the worn out parts years ago. Thanks for such an honest informative video.
I absolutely love these informative videos. I'm a maintenance tech by trade. I know mechanical systems. I really appreciate these. Couldn't learn from a better person.
I would usually replace my whole clutch with the kit provided. This next time around I'm going to stretch this clutch kit out by replacing only what's bad. I really never gave it a second thought about scrutinizing each plate and fiber.
Thanks for watching!
I appreciate you going into depth and explaining how to make the clutch perform and showing the results on the dino. Thanks Brock
Just reiterating the other comments.. I did learn lots more about bike clutch set-up and maintenance in that one video than so many other vids on here. Keep up the great work. Regards Richard from Australia
Save the new clutch as long as possible. The word is going around that it is no problem to let your clutch hang between engaged and disengaged... the clutch was never meant to be between these positions. In fact, it is made to transfer energy from the engine to the drive wheel smoothly and that puts enough wear and tear on it without deliberately dragging the clutch... which is called burning the clutch. If you know of a long light that you have going to work it is best to shift to neutral and sit which puts no wear on the clutch. I have noticed that MSF and the Police Rodeo are advocating to drag your clutch (burn) to get a slower movement... this will tare up clutch plates. When the clutch goes out in the mountains it will not be a fun ride.
Awesome video! Technical representation better than anything else on UA-cam. Thank You! (Brock must be an ME!)
Just a guy who paid attention in elementary school 😉
You are top man.Thank you for showing the tricks and ways to inspect the clutch.I have 4th zzr1400 and absolutely adore this motorcycle and its build equality.
Brock thanks I enjoyed, I learned a couple things and really liked the video thumbs up. I’ll be looking at the rest of your tech talk videos in the near future.
Replaced the clutch on an old Kawasaki KZ750 years back and I tried to torque those spring loaded bolts down and ended up ripping the head off one of them, it wasn't a new bike and I freaked out that I wouldn't be able to get the right bolt again or even remove the rest of it but got lucky and a friend had an old 400 or 450 from the same generation laying around gathering rust. definitely a learning experience.
I think we have all been there? I used to think the OEM's used soft/shitty clutch bolts on purpose...now I know the heat generated in the clutch area anneals the bolts and makes them soft. That's why all of our clutch bolts are grade 8 out of the package.
I bought my Busa's billet clutch mod from you and fitted it myself. Bike has been perfect.
After watching this, I think I could have done better on the springs. Great insights, thanks.
good video im gearing up to inspect a clutch that doesnt pull anymore u made it see pretty simple
That is one of the best moto tech videos I have ever viewed. Class dismissed!
Hello. Just got my 03 Bandit back track bound.
I'm new to the motorcycle world and let me tell you that this video was done right. I learned soo much from it. Thank you.
You are an amazing mechanic. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Must be nice to have Brock as your buddy. A wealth of experience and knowledge. He's from Ohio 👍. Big what's up from Cleveland
Wow, great video man. I now have a much greater understanding of how exactly a motor cycle clutch operates and goes together. I work in auto body and listen to your vidoes all day while im working. Great stuff keep them coming. And a huge Thank You...
Hi Brock i am from South Africa and have been in drag racing for many years and even build Suzuki GSX Motors and a tap on the shoulder for you for the way you explain things and also why you do it that way.Well done mate and keep it up and you must get a market for your exhaust systems here in Cape Town where i stay
Regards
Albie
Hello Albie Rossouw and thanks for the kind words. Our SA presence is getting better, but still not strong...tell your friends about us!
@@BrockDavidson sure i will do so an a very good friend if mine has a Motorcycle Service Centre and i think that he might be interested and you also sell extended swing arms?
,Brock I have tons of respect for you doing these tech videos..
Great video. Finally got around to watching the whole thing on this cold winter day.
The ZX14 friction plates are such a good design....I have cleaned up metal plates with scotch bright or 600grit wet/dry paper and reassemble ....amazing bikes
To the best of our knowledge, the ZX-14 is the only bike drag raced in Japan during the development process...so it's not by accident.
I watched this hoping to know how clutch works, I didn’t figure it at all, but understood bad clutch implications and this is maintenance explanation. I like a lot your style!
What an awesome instructor. Thanks for the attention to details.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing the (racing type) info with us, at home about the ZX-14R clutch!!
(You are a gentleman, and a scholar!!)
I don't drag race, but I'm putting a new clutch in my klr650! And found this video helpful!
Increasing spring pressure by changing configuration was a real eye opener, very cool. Need to remember that.
Extremely knowledgeable. Very informative. Excellent video 👍. Keep them coming.
Brock, Thank you Sir. For the very informative clutch maintenance seminar. Lol. I know now way more then I did about my 2016 ZX14R SE.
Clutch. ! And I saved this to go back and listen again and again what you said so it's stamped in my brain. Thank you. So very much. ! God Bless. !
Man... I'm just finding your videos and it feels like I'm at MMI. subscribed💪
Tell your friends!
@@BrockDavidson i don't have any motorcycle friends, so i got you all to myself. Do you have any Honda CBR 929 content?
@P.E.1, We don't, sorry. But the theories and work we do applies to all makes, models etc.
More than I ever didn't know. Thank you, amazing detailed information.
Glad it was helpful!
Just ran across this. Good video! Thanks Brock.
Thanks Brock! Long videos like this are fine by me.
excellent explanation. Im a car mech and when it comes to bikes, still have a lot to learn. This video really explained clutches well. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I have learned so many things. Thanks for this video.
Man... what a very nice video!!! I really enjoyed it. Thanks!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This guy is a bike guru!!! Thanks!
I got a 08 zx10r I appreciate the detail that you went into just for all of us. I'm doing my clutch for the first time, I think I may have cooked my clutch that was im sure in need of being replaced after the first season of riding. I have some mild gruving in my clutch basket. Ran finger over it and I can't feel the spots so I think that's alright. I'm just not familiar with clutch fiber plates and the sharp edged steel plates. Not sure if it's relevant but my steel plates don't feel very sharp on the outer edges or along the contact spots for the fiber plates. If you or anyone else has some insight it would be greatly appreciated
@Christopher - glad you like our vids. The metal plates are stamped, so the "sharp" edge is on one side and the smooth is on the other. Some are harder to feel than others, so if you don't know...neither will your bike. Put them in however you like :)
Great vedio bro man and a great lesson on clutch and your clutch basket overall..tips that will keep you and your baby runing better for a life times..keep up the good works and blessing to you your team and family
Getting ready to do my gen 5 vfr800 ive done prob dozen other bikes so id say I know enough to do but love how ya broke all down and explained lots thank you
Thank you for great video and detailed explanation.
You help me to avoid 5/6 hundred pounds bill
My clutch on my honda vfr1200f was slipping on high reves
After opening my clutch cover 3 times was giving up.
1st time i changed clutch fibers
Worked 3/4 days and back to same slipping.
2nd time i changed metal disks. Same
3rd time springs. Same.
Then replaced master cylinder, slave cylinder and hose new fluid. Same.
I was going to take it to garage tomorrow. 😩
After watching yor video today i have opened it for 4th time and managed to fixe it.
I sow deep groves on the clutch basket.
I took a file and after 1 hour in shed was looking like new.
Then installed a diamond disk on my bench grinder and angle grinder and made interlocking clutch basket by changing angle on the basket tooth- male and female.
Just came back from test ride
I'm still smiling 😃😊🙂😀
Going to treat my girls with something nice.
God bless you
All the best 👍
Glad we could help.
Another great video from Brock. I have worked on many different bikes over the years and all I can say is, listen and learn from this video. A good clutch makes the bike.
Thank you so much Brock for this video, as a owner of a 2016 ZX-14r I'm constantly looking for tech information about my bike. As I love for looking at ways to making things faster and run better...Thanks again for sharing your wealth of experience to help out others who enjoy our sport.
We love watching others work. Long videos while we're learning. No problem
Thanks for the amazing video Brock. It was a real big help for me.
Awesome video Brock! You are the man. This channel only has 13k subs... that's depressing.
fwh79 lol and thanks for your concern on our subscriber count. I'm pretty sure we will catch on, but until then - please tell your friends about us as we prefer organic growth to the use a service that brings non-enthusiasts to our page just to make the numbers look good.
Brock Davidson: You do a great job and I want you to know how much I respect you, your team, and all the hard work all you guys put in every week. There are so many channels on youtube that are just posers. Yet, they have hundreds of thousands subbed up. I hope your channel catches on because you deserve way more attention. Keep doing what you do. There are plenty of people out here who really respect your opinion. Thank you again!
Very informative and helpful for us who like to DIY!! Keep the tech talks coming!
Wow. That was awesome! More clutch info than I bargained for and totally glad I watched the whole video.
Thanks for the video am not a racer but I've learnt so much about clutches I love bikes so thanks.
As a Motocross rider, now getting back on the Street, Pay close attention to the cable length changes on your Clutch. As the Plates wear, the length increases. Granted, this may not apply to Hyd Clutches, but my GSXR has Cable.
oh i need to check my basket thanks so much
Thanks Your a great guy. Thanks for your honesty.
Wow.... what a great and informative video. I definitely appreciate your content Brock! Thanks!!!
Hi, nice more high quality pro info, never knew there was so much to clutches, thanks Brock .
Uk 🇬🇧 Dave.
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Glad you enjoyed it
As always very informative,, but the best part is the " Friends Anti Fiddler FIX "
Many thanks for the demo!
I watched the video helping me to do the oil pump upgrade. Where you spin the clutch pack freely. Mine does not. I took everything off and just put the inner hub on and it still drags us there anything I’m missing. It is in neutral. I can get it to shift into first and neutral that’s it. It will not go into 2nd or any higher gear.
Some drag is normal as you are spinning the input shaft and associated transmission gears. The Kaws won't let you shift into 2nd and above unless the bike is moving (Kawasaki positive neutral finder) .. So that's normal also.
@H2 Beast Mode - also, the clutch steels and frictions are not installed in my demo. The effort required to spin the inner hub is considerably more difficult when they are installed.
Brock Davidson I assumed that. I did messaged you on Facebook with a video of it. I show it in the basket and out of the basket. I don’t have my rear stand under my bike I have it resetting on my kickstand I’m not sure if that makes a difference. I can’t see anything wrong with it unless I bent the shaft some how when trying to torque the main nut on it.
30 minutes in about clutch stack height was guru moment.. 😮
Awesome and very informative video i learned alot of new things beyong just stack height thanks for the videos!
You are a really gifted teacher.
Thanks!
That was a top tier video. Thanks.
It is surprising how similar the clutch is to a automatic transmission setup, I expected it to be something different.
I enjoyed watching your thorough inspection techniques. That is probably the most important aspect of being a competent dyi builder/racer. It is an art to be able to see and understand the clues of what is happening inside the machine.. it will tell you what is wrong if you can spot the signs.
I know nothing about clutches..im just a street rider....but i would really like to go grab a beer with you brother and keep the clutch convo going!! Great vid.
Amazing video and the long description box has every section of it!!
There is so much information these days that even we have trouble referencing it all - so we create the time stamps to speed things along. Glad you noticed :)
Love these videos. I'd watch and listen to them all day! I've had a clutch apart that far but am guilty of just dropping in a whole new stack. Def informative and learned a ton
Thanks Brock . Very good informative video 👍
Wow, what a great in-depth explanation! It’s really great that you take the time to share your knowledge. Kudos to you!
How do you adjust the clutch free play and actual adjustments for engagement/ disengagement with a Hydraulic clutch on a zx14r. No one seems to talk about this. I know new fibers that are oiled will swell and can cause creep. Dry hops will wear them back to normal height, but you need to adjust the clutch engagement/disengagement. On a normal clutch with a cable I know how to do that. This is my first Hydro clutch and understand how it works in principal. The master cylinder send hydro pressure to a slave cylinder that moves a puck and this pulls the hat in and let’s the plates slip past each other.
where is the actual adjustment for that process of the slave Cylinder.
On all the stuff I worked on in the past, there is a set screw and lock but in the center of the clutch hat and you break the nut, back off the center set screw, then start turning that in until you have the free play you want in clutch lever and lock down that nut and your done.
This is a whole different world and I can’t find the info on proper adjustment of the hydro clutch engagement/ dis engagement as well as free play in the lever on my 2013 zx-14r.
I did watch a Ricky Gadson video and he used your stuff with track king fibers and steels. He said that the clutch head/hat should be flush with the fingers of the basket.
My bike 3,600 original miles is no where near being flush, they must of been riding this bike out of adjustment as the stack height is way thin if that statement is true about fingers to hat being flush.
Sorry for the long winded post, can I call and speak to you about everything and order some shit to fix my bike properly?
Hydraulic clutches are self-adjusting (aka, no free play since they don't need it). The engagement is adjusted from the wheel on the clutch lever as well as stack height adjustments via thicker/thinner steels and/or fibers. Ignore comparing your OEM plate situation compared to aftermarket....the reason they are so inexpensive is because they are a generic fitment/not direct OEM replacement and no, they are not flush.
@@BrockDavidson Thanks so much, I was freaked out that the man burned up my clutch plates. I need to update it anyway. I want to stage race this bike. So I’ll be calling for an order soon.
On a different subject, can you tell me how to pull codes on a 2013 zx-14r. It doesn’t have that Mode- Reset button like Gen1, and the holding the Select button like a 2017 and up does.
Press and hold the SEL button for more than two seconds - the codes appear on the dash... You will need a service manual to determine code meanings.
Great video mate! Very informative!!
Glad you liked it!
I've watched a few of your videos & theyre really good. Its people like yourself that enable us bikers to tackle jobs with confidence!! Keep up the good work Brock!! Much appreciated!!
Very helpful as usual thanks Brock
I have a 1998 Kawasaki Voyager XII (1200cc) and have the same clutch slipping problem. To make this comment short I have done the same to the clutch. I replaced the clutch frictions with new generic frictions (paper cork material) and also replaced with new 6 clutch springs (generic). The steel clutch plates are excellent (no hot spots or warpage). Went for a test ride and the clutch still slips while accelerating hard in 4th and 5th gear. I dissembled and shimmed the 6 springs with .091" washers (1 under each spring) to increase spring pressure and that reduced slippage by 85%. My question is should I have installed Kevlar frictions instead of generic paper-cork? Maybe Kawasaki used Kevlar frictions when the bike was new. Your video is great and explains everything you need to know. Thanks Brock.
@289 Mustang - as a general rule we only use OEM clutch steels and fibers. I'm not saying the aftermarket units won't work, or can't be made to work...I am saying I don't have time to figure out the formula to do it. How are you measuring your slippage? Seat of the pants or dyno?
@@BrockDavidson Thank You for the quick reply. I'm measuring slippage by the seat of my pants and the Tach. I think later this year I'm going to buy a set of Kevlar frictions. From the info I found "Both Kevlar and Carbon clutch fibers will grip better than OEM." Maybe Kevlar will be the answer. Thanks for the information enjoy your videos.
@@289mustang8 Careful not to confuse "grip" with "grab". I hate a grabby clutch (never a problem with OEM) aftermarket "marketing" jargin can get confusing, frustrating, and expensive. Before jumping ship on what you have, please also consider that some motor oils (especially "wet clutch approved") can cause slip. If you can add more shims (or aftermarket springs) without coil bind, you can stop all slippage.
@@BrockDavidson I only rode the cycle for a mile because of weather so the next nice day I will give it another try. I'm using Castrol GTX motor oil which has great lubricating properties. Years ago I had a (used) cycle with a grabby clutch and changed oil to Castrol GTX and that fixed the grabby issue. Maybe my next oil change I could try another brand. I checked for coil bind while adding shims and I'm getting close but could be room to shim a little more. Appreciate all your tips. Thank You.
@289 Mustang - Nice work. FYI: We try to keep .030 off of coil bind as a min.
Great video. When clutch on my ZZR1400 gets funny I will take it apart using this video.