About sales and MSRP - I recently read about Ford threatening franchise dealers with penalties for damaging the Ford brand with severe mark ups. This is huge and I hope more manufacturers follow.
@@aluciusd1337 I think this is true. That being said my local dealership that I ordered my Mach-E from hasn't got a new one in months. They only have GTs and they're marked up around 15K.
It is amazing to see that Ford actually took the time to put the GPS active charger utility in the car. The fact that is updates itself and guides you around problem charging stations instead of sending you there is actually priceless. Because your time is priceless. Well done, Ford. I hope for Ford brings out a small entry level four-seater EV with a decent range. But all things considered, this is a damn impressive first start for Ford.
Dealer tech here: in Oct 2021 the CEO said that they were delaying the rollout of the OTA update for Blue Cruise for early adopters to Quarter 1 of 2022 so that they could work on simplifying the OTA process. On Jan 27 they sent out a notice to dealers saying the OTA update would start rolling out and there are two options for download. One is OTA, where the updates will occur in the background while the customer is driving, BUT some updates will require the vehicle to be shut off to download. It might take several WEEKS once OTA updates start before Blue Cruise is fully functional. The other option is complementary software download at the dealership, which is estimated to take between 2 to 8 HOURS with a dealer computer. Obviously this is a huge update. Either way, once Blue Cruise is activated and functioning, early adopters are getting 1 year of complementary Blue Cruise service. Here's the thing, the 2021 F150 is also part of the Blue Cruise program. All 2021 Raptors were built with the Blue Cruise hardware as part of the Raptor trim level. On Jan 27 they also announced that late in software development, they found that the off road suspension and capability of the Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard. For unsold vehicles they're sending a updated window sticker that reflects a $750 reduction in price. For sold vehicles they're going to reach out to customers and give them a $750 refund. All other early adopter F150s aren't affected, so if the truck has the hardware, the OTA update will be sent out to the truck. The awkward part is the Raptors will still have the hardware (like the IR camera that watches your eyes) which will sit unused and Blue Cruise just won't be activated. Not sure if the OTA delay for early adopters was really because they were simplifying the OTA update process or tinkering with the Raptor and trying to make it work before deciding it wasn't going to happen, or both. I'm guessing both.
"Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard" sounds like lawyer speak for "there is a safety issue". Maybe it comes down to the Raptor's setup needing custom tuning and they don't want to maintain a separate branch for that vehicle. Could even be they found the hardware isn't configured properly for it.
So I have a Jan. 2021 built MachE and I have the higher charging curve and no issues getting OTA. I've had 4 (maybe 5) OTAs. I'm on the current software build. The only thing I'm missing is to be able to open the frunk from the Phone app. I've been very happy with my car.
You talk fast and there is no fluff. Love your presentation style. Not a minute wasted. I have a 2013 PHEV Fusion and that battery will outlast the car. After a long 9 years and over 180K miles, it is still 12 miles out of 21 miles in the EV battery when new thanks to Ford not letting us use all of the battery. It's not a great car compared to modern vehicles, but it still runs good overall and I'm keeping it til it dies.
We have had our Mach-E since June and have 19k miles now. The single biggest thing I would share that Alex touched on is that in cold weather expect up to 50% range loss. The other big pain point is our center screen needs to be rebooted probably 2/5 times we start the car. Not sure if this is cold weather related or not.
@@parkerlarsen5858 things that help: being able to plug in when vehicle isn't in use, having a warm garage. We are in northern Wisconsin so we saw temps as low as -20 f this winter. It always starts though! :) Only really a concern if you do what we do which is regularly drive across the state. Make sure you have viable chargers along the way to likely destinations in the winter that are say 80 miles away or more.
I have had the GT for 6 months in Norway. It does lose some range, but I wouldn't go so far as 50%. Never had an issue with the screen. Maybe Trondheim, Norway isn't as cold as Wisconsin ... -20F is about -28 Celcius so that's quite chilly. We don't get that low numbers but for the inland or the northern areas.
While true, it probably makes little difference. most of the frontal crush area is relatively small sections of the frame rails. In a traditional front engine vehicle most of that length is to provide enough distance to prevent the engine from going thru the dash (and folding it under the vehicle if possible). Without that large, solid chunk of metal up front the crush area increases dramatically even tho the distance seems much smaller.
@@EVBuyersGuide I guess if I were to carry engine blocks or other large metal objects they would not crush well. Personally, my frunk is usually empty. The things I do carry there, takeout food, groceries, or suitcases, all crush just fine if I were in a collision.
Markups are insane. I’ve been looking and the GTs are typically 15-20k over. I had a dealer try to sell me a select base model no options for 60k 😂 I’m just gonna go for another brand. Volvo is doing 5k under msrp. I can put up with 3 years of a hybrid instead of paying 15k over for a car with limited features.
I endorse the tire swap 100%. My F350 has a recommended tire pressure of 75 PSI front, 80 PSI rear, which is simply too high for daily use. Even while towing 5 tons of trailer and tractor it's like driving on beach balls. I don't understand where Ford came up with those numbers, because 60 PSI is my preference and I have never had uneven wear or issues with heat build up or sidewall flex/roll.
Great to hear you're still so happy with the Mach-E a year in. The nav for charging is such an oversight for many manufacturers. Only Ford and Tesla really seem to bake that into the native system properly so far.
I have an 885 mile trip to the Smoky Mtns. coming up this fall. There is no way I want to stop twice just to recharge batteries. Wouldn’t touch this car.
Those with Mach-Es (mine's in chip hold after being built) have said that, if you precondition (not just remote start) your Mach-E while charging, it will warm the battery and you'll lose less range for winter.
this is true, and it’s one of my gripes with Ford for this. why in the world do i need to remote “start” my EV? why can’t i just manually start a precondition cycle? i would love for it to let me hit that button, and tell me how long it will take to be ready in current conditions, instead of just starting up and “running” for 15/30 minutes
I have submitted feedback asking for the Ford Pass app to be able to adjust the settings for the Climate control module thru the app. To me it just makes sense rather then letting the computer use preset configurations.
Ford has 100% let the early buyers down. Those that waited even 6 months to buy have more features, better features, and more frequent updates. Early buyers have been punished for being eager. Especially so for the ones that have the “can’t receive updates” problem. Ford knows what hardware needs replaced to fix the problem, and has for months. They refuse to fix the hardware and have Instead made those buyers wait for another attempt at a software update. It’s a real shame. It’s a great car, looks good, and drives well. Fords engineers can’t seem to deliver on the software/firmware side.
I would bet that the engineers are simply not allowed to deliver. Ford is not prioritizing correctly in order to do software OTA updates. Management there is likely stuck in their traditional ways of "we already have their money, it is more important to work on new cars" and do not understand how the world has changed. Or perhaps the official Ford messaging is simply not true.
@@Sylvan_dB I think it's more like, we don't have any software engineers working on this, or not nearly enough. Ford infotainment, like many other legacy makers, is done by integrating 3rd party design and software. Tesla, however, is a vertical integration company and does all everything from the ground up. Much like Apple, who can push out software updates whenever they want.
Only took about a minute before the flashing turn signal forced me to seek out a small piece of electrical tape to put on the screen - the same fix I used for the flashing 12:00 on my VCR.
A side note for frunks on this older vid: It is does make excellent crash protection. In a front end damage, it avoids damage to the EV system because the frunk is where damage occurs, improving repairability.
Alex one thing I don’t think you have considered is what is under that compartment that prevents the frunk from being full size. There’s probably mechanical equipment that prevents that space from being used. Just something to consider…
This was a great review. I have owed one for just over a year and agree with your statements. I am interested in performing the tire upgrade you mentioned.
We took delivery of our 2021 Mach E December 2021. We have full Blue Cruise capability. It's no where near Tesla autopilot, but works fairly well in high density traffic situations, and it's totally hands free. We have received OTA updates for Blue Cruise in the last couple weeks as well. I'm not sure why your 2021 still doesn't have Blue Cruise....it's definitely available.
I was hoping Mach E would be an affordable E-SUV, but in Canada, it is very expensive. Base model cost over 60k for AWD. If you factor in taxes it is over 71k for the base AWD model. No incentive is available.
@@spacebound1969 the car goes up to luxury tax territory which is why it is very expensive. Not to say it is not expensive to begin with. However, we are very happy with the ID.4 Pro AWD we bought. it wasn't as pricy.
3:05 A large front trunk also reveals how well packaged and integrated the components are. For example Tesla's octo-valve and integrated systems mean there's more room for a trunk.
The Tesla Model Y and Mach E have almost identical distances from the firewall to the bumper but the Mach E has a larger front trunk. The Octobvalve is mainly marketing, the same functions can be packaged just about as efficiently without it as Ford has proved..
It’s wild how people to see front trunks as exclusively “better packaging” and not a choice of where to allocate the additional space - it’s fine if you prefer front truck - I like the Ioniq 5 providing more passenger space - a design choice not a definitive evidence of better engineering in my opinion
@@seanz6586 And because Sandy says it, it must be true? How is it that every other EV company performs the same function without branding the valve setup they use?
The rear doors don't have a handle because when Ford tested it out, people would open the door without using the handle and would typically grab it up by the button instead of on the body.
The most expensive version (I’m assuming is the GT) needs to be the luxury one. I don’t like the cheap door handle alternatives. They need to have door handles that go inside the door. Also I feel like the sunroof should open. It also needs 300 miles of range. Other than that I see no issues with this car.
Wait... My 3000 dollar Bonneville has a sunroof that opens, but the 80k Mustang doesn't? I'm both surprised and not surprised at all. Yep, I don't need to get a different car for at least another decade. I have too many features that modern and expensive cars don't have! 😂
Tesla Model 3 owner here, I have to admit the Mach E was on the shopping list for me but decided against when the base price model was either unavaliable or "upgraded" to go beyond my budget, that is, if I was willing to wait on the delivery. I had to get back to Model 3 RWD and, while I don't have as much space, it'll do. As for the "frunk" I generally use that to get my hot smelly takeout from restaurants. I never noticed that when I had the old ICE car, the "new car" smell is quickly getting away within a few weeks, and the cabin starts filling up with burned oil particulates, especially in winter, when the windows must stay closed. We are getting used to it and our noses ignore it, but the lungs will feel that for sure, and the brain too (for the missing oxygen in the air). After more than a year my EV still smells fresh inside, which is simpy amazing, and placing smelly stuff in the frunk, I keep the bad odours out.
@@JAMESWUERTELE I suppose you know that when there is not enough oxygen in the air, the brain doesn't function in the same way (medical term "cerebral hypoxia"). Also, the air filters and oil filters in the car are not 100% efficient in stopping the impurities. The internal combustion engine, generally in front in the car, will still give a big smell, notably because, and I quote " Although commuters typically spend only 5.5% of their time in vehicles, the emissions from various interior components of motor vehicles as well as emissions from exhaust fumes carried by ventilation supply air are significant sources of harmful air pollutants that could lead to unhealthy human exposure due to their high concentrations inside vehicles' cabins" this from a study published a couple of years ago in Sage Journals.
Mustang Mach-Es built before July 2021 can have their DCFC charge curve updated at the dealer for 45 kw 80-95% SoC, instead of “falling off a cliff”. Ask for CSP 21P22.
@@EVBuyersGuide unfortunate. But for most people a trip to the dealership is only a minor inconvenience since they were used to going to a dealership or other facility routinely. They SHOULD offer it OTA. But even if they don’t, one trip to the dealer isn’t that big of a deal if you want the update now vs waiting.
I didn't realize you had this channel until I saw on your main - subbed! All this EV talk pretty much convinced me to wait another 5 years before I consider one. I have a F150 Tremor, and I originally reserved a Lightning. I have since cancelled the reservation- they are simply not ready yet.
I have been driving an EV for 5 years and I can tell you its the best experience with a car I have ever had. These are great cars. I would have taken your reservation!!
EVs aren't for everybody and won't be for quite some time unfortunately. Battery technology still needs improved for improved range, charge times and expected lifespan. The next biggest requirement is cost vs. ICE.
Excellent review. I’ve been curious about this vehicle, even though I bought a 2020 Mustang Ecoboost. I learned quite a bit, although for the foreseeable future I’ll stay with the regular Mustang.
In all reality, I think they’re aimed at different audiences. I think Ford used the Mustang as the inspiration and mainly used the name to create attention. But the Mach E seems to be aimed at the person who wants the speed of a Mustang, but for whom the Mustang is no longer practical because he may have children or may regularly ride passengers. Perhaps a person who would otherwise get an Edge but wants something that sits a little lower.
@@dmandman9 So they aimed this Mach E at wannabe people? Nah, the target market would buy an Escape or Bronco Sport if they came out as an EV, the Mustang name wouldn't influence them. They share the same platform albeit modified anyway, so not many would be able to tell any performance differences. This vehicle just doesn't know what it wants to be, it's a crossover trying to masquerade as a Mustang but failed at it. Attaching the Mustang name to it just tells me Ford did not have confidence in their electric vehicle technology so they attached the Mustang name to try and salvage it. When they said we were getting an electric Mustang, people thought we getting a 2 door sports car that would go up against the Tesla Model S. It being a crossover was a large disappointment and largely written off as such. It was only that highly modified Mach E that some builder created that generated the first positive news for it, but that one shared very little with the production Mach E. And only the GT that brought in the performance people were expecting.
@@bl8danjil They’re selling all they can produce and are actually selling more of them than the “real” Mustang. I’m not a fan of them putting the Mustang name on it. But it’s selling. This vehicle is more likely to share an audience with the Model Y. That’s who everyone is comparing it to. As for performance, Fords regular Mustang GT is the one they look to for performance as well. So it was always expected that the Mach E GT would be the performance model. It’s Ford’s first serious effort at an EV. So I believe things will only improve from here.
@@dmandman9 It was the only ev from Ford. If they only sold one type of vehicle obviously that vehicle is going to "sell." Or if they only sold black cars, they could say black cars are selling out. There is just nothing to compare it to in their lineup, which is funny because the Escape and Bronco Sport ride on the same platform. I know who they were trying to compete with. It was obvious it was the model Y. That was not my point. They could have slapped the Escape name or Bronco Sport name on it and they would have sold just as many. If they had made an actual electric sports car, not a crossover, Mustang they would have satisfied the Mustang fans too. Instead they got dunked on at launch.
@@bl8danjil If I’m not mistaken , there is an EV Mustang in the works. By the way, it’s NOT in ANY way related to the Escape/Bronco sport. 1. It’s primarily rear wheel drive with all wheel drive optional. The Escape is fwd, The Bronco Sport is all wheel drive but front wheel biased. 2. The Mach e front suspension is virtually the same as the Regular Mustang. I looked underneath. Its basically an extended Mustang chassis wise modified for an electric motor between the wheels. Much like a stretch limo. I didn’t realize it until I went the the Mustang Training class and the instructor showed us a few things. Again, totally different from the Escape/Bronco. As for the ridicule, part of the reason for the name sharing was indeed to create the “buzz” . People started talking that normally wouldn’t. Free publicity. Then people drove it and found even the base version was faster than most versions of the current Mustang. Yes, it’s a crossover. No, it’s not marketed at the same demographic as the regular Mustang. Ford has one thing in mind: sell it. A couple version would NOT have sold as many because people simply don’t buy that many coupes. Coupes are a niche market. So they wanted to make it closer to mainstream If the only complaint against this vehicle is the wrong name, that’s no big deal. Most simply call it the Mach E anyway. . In a few years it’ll probably be officially named the Mach e. And a real Coupe will likely be called the Mustang. That’s just my prediction. Again, the Escape Bronco sport have NOTHING in common with the Mach e platform. Whoever said that gave you some misinformation. The Bronco sport, escape and MAVERICK share the same platform.
I completely disagree with the charging port being in the front being convenient. I think it is a huge pain in the ass for the charging port in the front because not everyone's garage extends into the home and it makes it weird when I have to unload stuff from my trunk. That means in my case I would have to unload the groceries first and then have to start the car and reverse and back into my garage in order to charge my car for the night. I would much rather have cables that extend to the back of the car so that when I park in my garage, I can just charge and not have to worry about the front. I would much rather have the charging port on the rear side to avoid this issue and I am sure most people would much rather prefer that method.
Too small for a family. What ticked me off the most was the dealership. They wanted $70,000 for a low end. Walked out, next day I schedule a test drive with Tesla Model Y. They let me take it for 30 min with no one with you. The same day I placed an order and 3 months later my 07StangGT OG clutch sits in my garage with battery cables disconnected. Love my Model Y, besides I don’t trust the public charging system. I drive from El Paso TX to our company in Odessa TX and it’s a blast of a drive.
I have a 2021 GTPE, and my only complaint is the radio presets randomly reset for no apparent reason. Very annoying. Actually, I have 2 complaints, the 2nd being the navigation is poor and I hate that it constantly says to go to the carpool lane.
Nice review. We received our 2023 Model Y LR in March and we love the driving experience and the regenerative breaking But here a few things we have experienced: - No sun screen on the roof. We live in Texas and all the other cars we have owned have one and its a must have for our hot summers - No instrument screen in front of the driver. I don't care for "you will get use to it", if you have to shift your head and eyes off the road it's not a good thing. Tesla puts them on the Model S and X. Its just a cost cutting measure. - Its nice that when you turn on your blinker an image pops up on the screen for the right or left side of the car. Only problem is, who looks right to make a left turn? They should also have a blind spot light on the exterior mirror like all other cars. - Since we ordered the white seats they also gave us the white door and dash trim. We get a lot of glare from it, I rather have the wood. And tan seats for that matter. - No Apple Car play, I knew it when we order it, but we use different apps on our iPhone's, pads, TVs and stereo equipment. So streaming it from our phone is a poor substitution. As an example is when I are streaming something from my iPhone and the Nav system announces turning directions, it does not pause the streaming media just speaks over it. Because you are streaming, you have to use your phone to make changes. Not even Tesla can match the resources of Apple or Google to update the software or the number of applications. Leave the infotainment to Apple and Google. - The phone as a key doesn't work ten or fifteen percent of the time. I ordered a key fob to see if it can work better. - On a recent 250 mile trip using the adaptive cruse control (Autopilot) I had the phantom breaking five or six times. I tried it with and without lane keeping. Real pain. I agree with the comment, just give me a door handle. All these gimmicks for door handle add cost and do give you any improved function. The next few years are really going to be interesting. New battery chemistry, shorter recharge times, and more competition to drive down prices and improve the creature comfort of the cars.
This has to be the most comprehensive and truthful list from a Tesla user. The refresh 3 and y is going to be even more annoying since somehow they decide a screen on the back is more important than one in front on the dash and they are removing the stalks too. Still a great and efficient drivetrain with better tech integration but you do give up a lot of traditional creature comfort for those
botched Updates are a Classic Ford Problem. I had a ‘16 Mustang that didn’t ship with CarPlay but it was promised, and did get it as an update… but only for certain USB ports so I had to remove my center console and replace the USB port and then update the software, and the OTA failed so I needed to use a USB drive or go to a dealer.
How about an i4 M50 next for review? On paper it has a slight edge on the Mach E Performance, but real life can be different. Be curious to see such a comparison. The E Perf loaded easily hits the same purchase cost as i4 M50's (which start 'loaded' as is), so they are in the ball park for a lot of comparisons to be done?
It is a great car. Amazing to drive. Way to low ground clearance however for my use. Battery sticks out like half way on bottom. Nothing else to complaing. Price also good.
While I'm not totally convinced by the extra price of my 2021 MME GT, I am super happy it actually shipped with BlueCruise and I've been able to use it for the last 8 or so months (since I got it in early November). I would be very upset with Ford if I wasn't able to use BlueCruise on the MME Premium I nearly bought. One of the big features that the MME is supposed to have.
i know it would have added to the cost but another 5" wider (or 3 1/2' wider and 1 1/2" shorter) would have done wonders for the look and some heritage.
charger in the left side makes sense for UK, stupid for right side driving. when you park your car parallel to the road you always have to pull the cable across the hood.
Thanks for the detailed review! I just got a Bolt EV but this was really helpful for me to see the differences. I'm guessing the price difference makes the Bolt EUV not a competitor but I found it surprising that the EUV has combined leg room of 83.4 inches, more than every other car in the list. Bolt EUV 2nd row headroom is a little tighter though beating only the Niro EV and the Model 3.
The heat pump issue is a deal breaker. I'm tired of having to bundle up like an eskimo on cold days. I am definitely not keeping my mach e when the lease is up.
Good summation of your experience. It is hard to see this as anything but a glowing endorsement of the Mach E. I don't have one, a test drive convinced me it was simply bigger than I wanted. I prefer a car sized car for personal use, rather than one trying to be an SUV. Nevertheless, I am very pleased to see this historic American company changing direction to embrace EV technology with such a quality and effective product.
Great rundown of your experiences without the cultish devotion that would either have you tend to glorify the Mach-E or denigrate it in service to brand loyalty for another EV maker! I've been following reviews of the Mach-E since test driving a Premium 4EX last summer, and yours have been consistently the most informative. This video makes me feel better about not succumbing to the high degree of interest that I had after my test drive and watching countless videos on this and other EVs. I'm old enough to be patient, and my gut was telling me that it's a bad idea to buy the first generation of any new model (or significant overhaul of an existing model). That seems to have been very wise in retrospect because of the growing pains that early buyers are facing and how many changes have already come to the later models. In time, I'm sure the software updates will be normalized, but we live in a society where software is updated regularly and it's made us an impatient lot. I don't recall having an issue with the tires on my test drive, but with so much new and just a few hours of seat time, there's only so much to notice. I didn't take it canyon-carving or for an autocross event, so I didn't stress the grip of the tires like others have. While I didn't find the ride at all harsh, I have to admit to really wanting the Magneride suspension just for that extra level of adjustability in the suspension. I don't need all the other things that come with the GT Performance Edition, so the tremendous bump in price cannot be justified. In my mind, this vehicle is a great family version of a Mustang. The "not a Mustang" crowd needs to remember that not all Mustangs have been GTs and Shelby models. Not everyone wants that, and not everyone needs that for a vehicle they want to use every day. Perhaps the criticisms of those that want everything, want it cheap, and want it now will persuade Ford to keep paying attention and improve their operations. Tesla didn't come out of the gates with vehicles at the level of quality and performance that they exhibit today, so patience is key. It will be interesting to watch how Ford supports the vehicles that have already been sold, and how it handles the improvements that they should make to future models. It will also be interesting to see if/how the 300-pound gorilla reacts over time!
I initially got annoyed when I heard Ford limited the access to the full battery, but after thinking about it...it makes a ton of sense. You can charge this vehicle to 90%-100% every time and not have to worry about depleting your battery's lifespan. Almost every other EV manufacturer suggests only charging to 100% if doing something like a road trip, and otherwise just charge to 80% for normal use and nightly charging
Exactly. Although it is worth noting that most companies (Tesla excepted) walls off at least 5% of the battery, Tesla walls off some but it’s a small percentage
Thank you Alex for talking about how a frunk is kind of legacy of ICE cars profile - I also like the Ioniq 5 and EV6 giving that space to passengers - though still love Mach E
In an EV with high nickel based chemistries you are not supposed to routinely charge above 80% and must leave at least 10% charge to ensure that the pack last longer. That’s 30% gone. So available range is not really 264 miles. It is 264 x 70% = 185 miles or 295 kilometres. Secondly this much range may not suitable for people living in the North with extreme cold temperatures. A battery pack can loose up to 40% of its range if parked in the open. If you add both of these two conditions together IMHO an EV is not yet ready for colder climates.
That’s built into the software. When the cars shows 0%, there’s actually 10% battery left. Likewise, when the car shows 100%, there’s still about 10% capacity left. So the range is accurate. It will not ALLOW you to empty or overcharge the battery.
My brother just bought a Bronco l, after he let me me drive it man I'm sticking with gas car for as long as fossil fuels are around. Sorry but there's just something about hearing the roar of the engine/exhaust while being able to change gears yourself it's just awesome. I know in the future everything will be electric but as long as oil doesn't run out, I'm sticking to internal combustion
I’m sure you will have that option to stay……I’ve been told that the mach e can make some sounds like an engine……. I have been driving an EV for 5 yrs now……..i do like the quiet….. in late may my Tesla LRMY arrived……i was shocked that after driving my car once….a coworker put in an order for one…..he also test drove many different EVs …….last week…..he just couldn’t wait for his performance MY ….so he opted for the mustang Mach e……..he & his wife are very happy….. i do like the interior and the ride….. it has a cushiness that my Tesla doesn’t have……when i drove his Mach e…..i found it to be quite nice & soft……it drives like an ice car (to me) with the one pedal setting….. i find my MY to be more grippy & exciting to drive……..overall i think the Mach E is a great option for those wanting an EV! Its just a shame at how the dealers are making so many markups
Thanks for the long term review. We went to a couple EV events and were able to try out the Mach E, Toyota BZ4X, EV6, Lucid and XC40. I had put the Mach E very low on my list, but came away impressed. What we kind of didn't like was the "tacked" on iPad and the panorama roof. I think I can live with the iPad and I see you addressed the roof. Seems counterintuitive to have a source of excessive heat and then rely on the a/c to compensate for it drawing dependent electrons. We still need to look at the Ioniq 5, our #1 and the Ariya, #2, but now the Ford is #3.
Got it: thin tires standard, no heat pump, slow DC charging, no V2L; otherwise great. Maybe Ford is working on OTA paint color changes, in return for having to wait for OTA updates? :)
The longer I watched this review of the Mach-E, the more I appreciate my little 2022 Bolt EV 2LT. I won't go into details too much, but I like my Range better and my regular door handles. I don't need a Frunk as I can get everything I ever need in the back. I don't need it to go any faster as I worry about speeding tickets already. After 5700 miles, the ONLY thing I see as a negative is the longer charging times for really long trips (greater than 150 miles one-way). Glad that Ford is trying, but I'm not tied to any single automaker. This is the first Chevrolet (or Ford) since the 70's for me. I have been driving for 58 years and my Bolt is the absolute easiest vehicle I have ever driven. And it was incredibly CHEAP (like THOUSANDS cheaper than anything comparable). No - my Bolt does NOT handle like the sports cars that I have owned for years, but it is still awesome. I hate that GM is abandoning it.
Regarding front trunk and front overhang length. What about safety in a crash? Isn’t likely that a longer “hood” provides a better crumple zone making the vehicle likely to perform better in a frontal crash?
MachE battery buffer is too big, 10kwh being walled off sounds bad when you realize a tesla will lose around 7-8kwh of capacity after 200,000 miles according to data compiled by drivers but still manage to have 30-20 miles left at 0% charge.
I just remember one major problem with my Mustang Mach -E. the outside mirrors are not worth the glass they have. I normally set my mirrors to jst see my side of the my car. All others car mirrors I see cars along side of me. So I don't change lanes and cause an accident. NOT the mustang mirrors. Several time i did not see a car along side of me. I needed to drastically move the mirrors out. But for me I lose perspective of depth of view.
Portrait mode in Apple CarPlay actually has been updated OTA already, Not sure why your car hasn't gotten yet. It's included in Power-Up 2.3.0, which my car got about a month ago.
As he said early adopters have failed installs and are no where near receiving 2.3.0. As you note you have it so we assume not an early adopter. OTA with Ford has been nothing but a bad joke.
@@stangmatt66 You appear to be one of the lucky ones. I have below 2000 vin and have been stuck on 1.6 with a fail 1.7.1 like forever. Understand Ford keeps up grading you lucky ones while continuing to ignore the ones that they sold a defective one to.
Must be sad to see it go with that short list of nitpicks. Waiting forever for my order to actually be put into production and Ford just halted the factory due to chip shortage again. Perfect by no means I loved it on my test drive and the wait is killing me.
I’ll be interested when I can get an awd one of these for around 35 Wishful thinking on my part though My interest is peaked and idc about the Mustang name and I do like the styling and size and hatchback like versatility. I’m going to give it a couple years and hopefully they come down a little on price and figure out some of the quirks but it’s a great start
The charging experience in the Mach-E is excellent and very Tesla-like when using Electrify America, and frustrating on the VW ID.4, which is ironic considering that EA was set up as a result of Volkswagen's doing (diesel-gate)!
@@JustWasted3HoursHere I see charging as a weakness for non-Tesla cars. Electrify America averages between 3-5 stalls per station. As EVs become more popular, the EA stations will have long wait times. Tesla stations have a minimum of 8 stalls but more commonly 12. In the case of the I5 corridor, Tesla has almost three times more stations. 3 stations have 50+ stalls, 1 with 40, the rest have 8-30 stalls each. Tesla is also building an additional 40, 50, and 80 stall station on the same corridor. Tesla is committed to add more stations as needed and properly maintain them unlike EA.
@@spencer4733 Well for sure Tesla saw, right from the beginning, that charging infrastructure was going to be task number one for making Teslas appealing to the public, and it didn't hurt that early Teslas got "Supercharging for life" (don't know if that's still a thing or not). They have massively poured resources into expanding that infrastructure worldwide and are only increasing that. I drive a non-Tesla EV, a 2016 Kia Soul EV+, and for me it's no issue because I do 95% of my charging at home with only the very occasional stop at an outside DC fast charger, and only to get enough charge to either get me to my destination or home. EV adoption is going to be the hardest for people who don't have access to a home charger, in my opinion, because that's the most convenient and cheapest option (I pay about 10 cents per KW).
Alex, how many OTA updates have you received in the last year? Also, how many were fixes to problems vs new features/improvements to existing features? I would love to see auto reviewers provide more in-depth coverage of OTA updates. With many OEMs making a big deal of OTA updates in the marketing of their EVs, most if not all (except Tesla) still seem to far short with software updates that still require dealer visits or releasing very few or no updates at all.
Most people who are not in the software business have no idea how complicated software is. It takes an army of software engineers to maintain and write new code everyday. Ford? No way, unless they move their headquarters to Silicon Valley and hire an army of software engineers there. Until then, forget about anything decent from Ford, or almost any other legacy automakers.
I’m similar miles on same car, when the trail of the built in GPS, Alexa and blue oval is over are they gona charge people monthly to use built in feature
Having been a ford person most of my car owning life the Mach-e was very tempting we bought last summer, but went more tried and true with a Y. Happy with the car, the tech is wonderful. The ride is too rough. Winter range...SUCKS. I often see 1% drop per mile of driving...in 15F type weather. So that's what, 60 miles if you keep it between 20% and 80%...not sure if this is the same for all EVs, and ours lives outside for now. Flip side is not spending $200/month on gas (aka fuel), so that's good. There are not chargers where you need chargers...that affects all EVs and should get better with time. An interstate trip is no worry, but take a day trip into the country/rural areas and even smaller towns and you find range anxiety is real.
Pre-warm your vehicle if it’s on a charger before you leave, that will keep you from leaving with a cold battery and give significantly improved range.
@@chrisperry3525 the initial drop is usually quite high in cold weather as the car heats its battery and cabin (even if you preheat for 30 minutes) if you drive for an hour consumption will dropp and you will be able to get more than 60 miles out of 60%. Also on longer trips you should not be afraid to hit 10% before charging unless the weather is really bad. I have 7 years and 200 000miles behind me in a Model S in Norther Norway with winter temperatures down to -35C/-31F and have driven way longer than 60 miles even in my old P85+
Alex - great job - BUT - one huge question: You mentioned that your range is approximately 265 miles. However - in this video, the center screen showed you were getting 2.7 mi/kwh. If that's so - your range would be approximately 240 miles. So - can you please explain? Thanks - and keep up the great work!
you were using the rear door wrong, you don't have to grab the door, you grab by the release button to open, there is a rubber grip inside that you use, after a year I am surprised you didn't realize that unfortunately
About sales and MSRP - I recently read about Ford threatening franchise dealers with penalties for damaging the Ford brand with severe mark ups. This is huge and I hope more manufacturers follow.
unfortunately this only applies to the F150 Lightning. They still marking it up with the Mach E without repercussions.
@@aluciusd1337 I think this is true. That being said my local dealership that I ordered my Mach-E from hasn't got a new one in months. They only have GTs and they're marked up around 15K.
30k markup on a GT performance at the ford dealership near me.
It's lip service. Ford won't do anything, can't do anything, and in their memo they were equal at being anti-consumer also.
The solution is simple, don’t pay over sticker. I just bought a new Santa Cruz for 2k under sticker. Stop paying over sticker or even sticker. 🤦🏻♂️
It is amazing to see that Ford actually took the time to put the GPS active charger utility in the car. The fact that is updates itself and guides you around problem charging stations instead of sending you there is actually priceless. Because your time is priceless. Well done, Ford. I hope for Ford brings out a small entry level four-seater EV with a decent range. But all things considered, this is a damn impressive first start for Ford.
Dealer tech here: in Oct 2021 the CEO said that they were delaying the rollout of the OTA update for Blue Cruise for early adopters to Quarter 1 of 2022 so that they could work on simplifying the OTA process. On Jan 27 they sent out a notice to dealers saying the OTA update would start rolling out and there are two options for download. One is OTA, where the updates will occur in the background while the customer is driving, BUT some updates will require the vehicle to be shut off to download. It might take several WEEKS once OTA updates start before Blue Cruise is fully functional. The other option is complementary software download at the dealership, which is estimated to take between 2 to 8 HOURS with a dealer computer. Obviously this is a huge update. Either way, once Blue Cruise is activated and functioning, early adopters are getting 1 year of complementary Blue Cruise service.
Here's the thing, the 2021 F150 is also part of the Blue Cruise program. All 2021 Raptors were built with the Blue Cruise hardware as part of the Raptor trim level. On Jan 27 they also announced that late in software development, they found that the off road suspension and capability of the Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard. For unsold vehicles they're sending a updated window sticker that reflects a $750 reduction in price. For sold vehicles they're going to reach out to customers and give them a $750 refund. All other early adopter F150s aren't affected, so if the truck has the hardware, the OTA update will be sent out to the truck. The awkward part is the Raptors will still have the hardware (like the IR camera that watches your eyes) which will sit unused and Blue Cruise just won't be activated.
Not sure if the OTA delay for early adopters was really because they were simplifying the OTA update process or tinkering with the Raptor and trying to make it work before deciding it wasn't going to happen, or both. I'm guessing both.
Ford is going to love having to call OTA OS updates RECALLS which is the bs they're pulling with Tesla
"Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard" sounds like lawyer speak for "there is a safety issue". Maybe it comes down to the Raptor's setup needing custom tuning and they don't want to maintain a separate branch for that vehicle. Could even be they found the hardware isn't configured properly for it.
@@FragEightyfive Baseless conspiracy theories.
My blue cruise definitely works
So I have a Jan. 2021 built MachE and I have the higher charging curve and no issues getting OTA. I've had 4 (maybe 5) OTAs. I'm on the current software build. The only thing I'm missing is to be able to open the frunk from the Phone app. I've been very happy with my car.
Same here
3:24 The purpose of the front is to absorb a front impact. You have crush zoned on the frame. So yes, it's very much necessary.
Excellent and informative. I like the speed of speech. Lots of information, no interruptions. Good diction and precision speaking.
You talk fast and there is no fluff. Love your presentation style. Not a minute wasted. I have a 2013 PHEV Fusion and that battery will outlast the car. After a long 9 years and over 180K miles, it is still 12 miles out of 21 miles in the EV battery when new thanks to Ford not letting us use all of the battery. It's not a great car compared to modern vehicles, but it still runs good overall and I'm keeping it til it dies.
That is almost half range lost. I guess the Fusion doesn't have active heating and cooling for the battery pack.
We have had our Mach-E since June and have 19k miles now. The single biggest thing I would share that Alex touched on is that in cold weather expect up to 50% range loss. The other big pain point is our center screen needs to be rebooted probably 2/5 times we start the car. Not sure if this is cold weather related or not.
Interesting, I'm in cold weather as well and am considering buying one
@@parkerlarsen5858 things that help: being able to plug in when vehicle isn't in use, having a warm garage. We are in northern Wisconsin so we saw temps as low as -20 f this winter. It always starts though! :) Only really a concern if you do what we do which is regularly drive across the state. Make sure you have viable chargers along the way to likely destinations in the winter that are say 80 miles away or more.
I have had the GT for 6 months in Norway. It does lose some range, but I wouldn't go so far as 50%. Never had an issue with the screen.
Maybe Trondheim, Norway isn't as cold as Wisconsin ... -20F is about -28 Celcius so that's quite chilly. We don't get that low numbers but for the inland or the northern areas.
Long hoods provide more crush area to absorb energy in a front end collision. I prefer a long hood with frunk vs. a short hood.
While true, it probably makes little difference. most of the frontal crush area is relatively small sections of the frame rails. In a traditional front engine vehicle most of that length is to provide enough distance to prevent the engine from going thru the dash (and folding it under the vehicle if possible). Without that large, solid chunk of metal up front the crush area increases dramatically even tho the distance seems much smaller.
It makes little difference if the frunk is full of objects that don’t crush well
Rear end collision 💥?
You could have 20ft of area in the front. If it's open space, that doesn't help anything...
@@EVBuyersGuide I guess if I were to carry engine blocks or other large metal objects they would not crush well. Personally, my frunk is usually empty. The things I do carry there, takeout food, groceries, or suitcases, all crush just fine if I were in a collision.
Nice focused channel Alex. With your excellent communication skills and review techniques I expect this to be a big winner.
Thanks for addressing the heat pump - that's a major consideration here in the north.
Markups are insane. I’ve been looking and the GTs are typically 15-20k over. I had a dealer try to sell me a select base model no options for 60k 😂
I’m just gonna go for another brand. Volvo is doing 5k under msrp. I can put up with 3 years of a hybrid instead of paying 15k over for a car with limited features.
I endorse the tire swap 100%. My F350 has a recommended tire pressure of 75 PSI front, 80 PSI rear, which is simply too high for daily use. Even while towing 5 tons of trailer and tractor it's like driving on beach balls. I don't understand where Ford came up with those numbers, because 60 PSI is my preference and I have never had uneven wear or issues with heat build up or sidewall flex/roll.
Great to hear you're still so happy with the Mach-E a year in. The nav for charging is such an oversight for many manufacturers. Only Ford and Tesla really seem to bake that into the native system properly so far.
I sold mine for MSRP. I did NOT want to go through the windshield/roof recalls. With the tax credit I came out ahead by approximately $1800.
Score!
@@EVBuyersGuide I sold it to AutoNation. They beat Carvana, Vroom and all other local dealerships. I had a check in about 45 minutes.
smart. you know garbage when you see it.
@@mikesmith1702 Seriously, grow up!
I have an 885 mile trip to the Smoky Mtns. coming up this fall. There is no way I want to stop twice just to recharge batteries. Wouldn’t touch this car.
Holy moly - 140 mile range with the heater on. Someone up north is would surely die while stranded.
Those with Mach-Es (mine's in chip hold after being built) have said that, if you precondition (not just remote start) your Mach-E while charging, it will warm the battery and you'll lose less range for winter.
this is true, and it’s one of my gripes with Ford for this. why in the world do i need to remote “start” my EV? why can’t i just manually start a precondition cycle? i would love for it to let me hit that button, and tell me how long it will take to be ready in current conditions, instead of just starting up and “running” for 15/30 minutes
I have submitted feedback asking for the Ford Pass app to be able to adjust the settings for the Climate control module thru the app. To me it just makes sense rather then letting the computer use preset configurations.
Ford has 100% let the early buyers down. Those that waited even 6 months to buy have more features, better features, and more frequent updates. Early buyers have been punished for being eager. Especially so for the ones that have the “can’t receive updates” problem. Ford knows what hardware needs replaced to fix the problem, and has for months. They refuse to fix the hardware and have Instead made those buyers wait for another attempt at a software update. It’s a real shame. It’s a great car, looks good, and drives well. Fords engineers can’t seem to deliver on the software/firmware side.
I would bet that the engineers are simply not allowed to deliver. Ford is not prioritizing correctly in order to do software OTA updates. Management there is likely stuck in their traditional ways of "we already have their money, it is more important to work on new cars" and do not understand how the world has changed. Or perhaps the official Ford messaging is simply not true.
@@Sylvan_dB No it's true they 100% update every thing as they do it on Gas mustangs all the time...
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough What new features did they promise on your gas mustang and then successfully deliver months later with an update?
why would you expect anything different from Ford?
@@Sylvan_dB I think it's more like, we don't have any software engineers working on this, or not nearly enough. Ford infotainment, like many other legacy makers, is done by integrating 3rd party design and software. Tesla, however, is a vertical integration company and does all everything from the ground up. Much like Apple, who can push out software updates whenever they want.
Only took about a minute before the flashing turn signal forced me to seek out a small piece of electrical tape to put on the screen - the same fix I used for the flashing 12:00 on my VCR.
A side note for frunks on this older vid: It is does make excellent crash protection. In a front end damage, it avoids damage to the EV system because the frunk is where damage occurs, improving repairability.
Alex one thing I don’t think you have considered is what is under that compartment that prevents the frunk from being full size. There’s probably mechanical equipment that prevents that space from being used. Just something to consider…
This was a great review. I have owed one for just over a year and agree with your statements. I am interested in performing the tire upgrade you mentioned.
Thank you as always for all the information. It does help so much in trying to make the correct best informed decision.
We took delivery of our 2021 Mach E December 2021. We have full Blue Cruise capability. It's no where near Tesla autopilot, but works fairly well in high density traffic situations, and it's totally hands free. We have received OTA updates for Blue Cruise in the last couple weeks as well. I'm not sure why your 2021 still doesn't have Blue Cruise....it's definitely available.
I was hoping Mach E would be an affordable E-SUV, but in Canada, it is very expensive. Base model cost over 60k for AWD. If you factor in taxes it is over 71k for the base AWD model. No incentive is available.
Canada has too many damn taxes.
@@spacebound1969 the car goes up to luxury tax territory which is why it is very expensive. Not to say it is not expensive to begin with. However, we are very happy with the ID.4 Pro AWD we bought. it wasn't as pricy.
Very cool video. Very well done. Nice Job. Really informative and I appreciate the work you put into it.
I love this vehicle and have tested it to its max. Snowy conditions, driving from NY to California and back... Very pleased overall
But have you done any barrel rolls? 🤔
3:05 A large front trunk also reveals how well packaged and integrated the components are. For example Tesla's octo-valve and integrated systems mean there's more room for a trunk.
The Tesla Model Y and Mach E have almost identical distances from the firewall to the bumper but the Mach E has a larger front trunk. The Octobvalve is mainly marketing, the same functions can be packaged just about as efficiently without it as Ford has proved..
It’s wild how people to see front trunks as exclusively “better packaging” and not a choice of where to allocate the additional space - it’s fine if you prefer front truck - I like the Ioniq 5 providing more passenger space - a design choice not a definitive evidence of better engineering in my opinion
@@EVBuyersGuide you say that the octovalve is simply just “marketing”? Wow. Not what Sandy Munro says. You are certainly wrong here.
@@seanz6586 And because Sandy says it, it must be true? How is it that every other EV company performs the same function without branding the valve setup they use?
@@seanz6586 Tesla guilty of overhyped marketing!? I don't believe it!
The rear doors don't have a handle because when Ford tested it out, people would open the door without using the handle and would typically grab it up by the button instead of on the body.
Informative review, articulate reviewer, and excellent audio. Thank you and subscribed!
We bought my wife’s Mach E California Route 1 Edition in Sept 2021 and it came with Blue Cruise. Not sure why yours doesn’t yet have it.
Ford has not said why, but very early adopters cannot get that software update
The most expensive version (I’m assuming is the GT) needs to be the luxury one. I don’t like the cheap door handle alternatives. They need to have door handles that go inside the door. Also I feel like the sunroof should open. It also needs 300 miles of range. Other than that I see no issues with this car.
Wait... My 3000 dollar Bonneville has a sunroof that opens, but the 80k Mustang doesn't? I'm both surprised and not surprised at all. Yep, I don't need to get a different car for at least another decade. I have too many features that modern and expensive cars don't have! 😂
Tesla Model 3 owner here, I have to admit the Mach E was on the shopping list for me but decided against when the base price model was either unavaliable or "upgraded" to go beyond my budget, that is, if I was willing to wait on the delivery. I had to get back to Model 3 RWD and, while I don't have as much space, it'll do. As for the "frunk" I generally use that to get my hot smelly takeout from restaurants. I never noticed that when I had the old ICE car, the "new car" smell is quickly getting away within a few weeks, and the cabin starts filling up with burned oil particulates, especially in winter, when the windows must stay closed. We are getting used to it and our noses ignore it, but the lungs will feel that for sure, and the brain too (for the missing oxygen in the air).
After more than a year my EV still smells fresh inside, which is simpy amazing, and placing smelly stuff in the frunk, I keep the bad odours out.
Missing oxygen? Oil particles?
@@JAMESWUERTELE I suppose you know that when there is not enough oxygen in the air, the brain doesn't function in the same way (medical term "cerebral hypoxia"). Also, the air filters and oil filters in the car are not 100% efficient in stopping the impurities. The internal combustion engine, generally in front in the car, will still give a big smell, notably because, and I quote " Although commuters typically spend only 5.5% of their time in vehicles, the emissions from various interior components of motor vehicles as well as emissions from exhaust fumes carried by ventilation supply air are significant sources of harmful air pollutants that could lead to unhealthy human exposure due to their high concentrations inside vehicles' cabins" this from a study published a couple of years ago in Sage Journals.
Alex, thank you for posting this, very informative
Never understood the bigger wheel and tires fad. Gee, I love tires that blow out whenever i hit the smallest pebble.
*bigger wheels, smaller tires. If it was what you actually wrote, then there wouldn't be an issue.
@@awesomeferret if you had wrote "bigger wheels, smaller tires, then there would be an issue" there wouldn't be an issue.
Well done as always! Providing such thorough information all the time.
Mustang Mach-Es built before July 2021 can have their DCFC charge curve updated at the dealer for 45 kw 80-95% SoC, instead of “falling off a cliff”. Ask for CSP 21P22.
Yep, sadly it isn’t an OTA yet
@@EVBuyersGuide unfortunate. But for most people a trip to the dealership is only a minor inconvenience since they were used to going to a dealership or other facility routinely. They SHOULD offer it OTA. But even if they don’t, one trip to the dealer isn’t that big of a deal if you want the update now vs waiting.
Good point on the back door easy-to-be-scrached. my ring definitly will screach it when I grab...
How has the piano black trim on the outside of the car held up especially around the wheel wells, etc.?
Got a serious recall issue the wiring fuses together
I didn't realize you had this channel until I saw on your main - subbed! All this EV talk pretty much convinced me to wait another 5 years before I consider one. I have a F150 Tremor, and I originally reserved a Lightning. I have since cancelled the reservation- they are simply not ready yet.
Welcome aboard!
I have been driving an EV for 5 years and I can tell you its the best experience with a car I have ever had. These are great cars. I would have taken your reservation!!
EVs aren't for everybody and won't be for quite some time unfortunately. Battery technology still needs improved for improved range, charge times and expected lifespan. The next biggest requirement is cost vs. ICE.
Not with a gun to my head, a knife to my throat, or any in other form of coercion will I EVER acknowledge this car as a Mustang.
How about with a $12,500 federal rebate?
My 2021 MME Premium was built in December '21 and came with Blue Cruise installed. I wonder why the delay for earlier builds?
Excellent review. I’ve been curious about this vehicle, even though I bought a 2020 Mustang Ecoboost. I learned quite a bit, although for the foreseeable future I’ll stay with the regular Mustang.
In all reality, I think they’re aimed at different audiences. I think Ford used the Mustang as the inspiration and mainly used the name to create attention. But the Mach E seems to be aimed at the person who wants the speed of a Mustang, but for whom the Mustang is no longer practical because he may have children or may regularly ride passengers. Perhaps a person who would otherwise get an Edge but wants something that sits a little lower.
@@dmandman9 So they aimed this Mach E at wannabe people? Nah, the target market would buy an Escape or Bronco Sport if they came out as an EV, the Mustang name wouldn't influence them. They share the same platform albeit modified anyway, so not many would be able to tell any performance differences. This vehicle just doesn't know what it wants to be, it's a crossover trying to masquerade as a Mustang but failed at it. Attaching the Mustang name to it just tells me Ford did not have confidence in their electric vehicle technology so they attached the Mustang name to try and salvage it. When they said we were getting an electric Mustang, people thought we getting a 2 door sports car that would go up against the Tesla Model S. It being a crossover was a large disappointment and largely written off as such. It was only that highly modified Mach E that some builder created that generated the first positive news for it, but that one shared very little with the production Mach E. And only the GT that brought in the performance people were expecting.
@@bl8danjil They’re selling all they can produce and are actually selling more of them than the “real” Mustang. I’m not a fan of them putting the Mustang name on it. But it’s selling. This vehicle is more likely to share an audience with the Model Y. That’s who everyone is comparing it to. As for performance, Fords regular Mustang GT is the one they look to for performance as well. So it was always expected that the Mach E GT would be the performance model. It’s Ford’s first serious effort at an EV. So I believe things will only improve from here.
@@dmandman9 It was the only ev from Ford. If they only sold one type of vehicle obviously that vehicle is going to "sell." Or if they only sold black cars, they could say black cars are selling out. There is just nothing to compare it to in their lineup, which is funny because the Escape and Bronco Sport ride on the same platform.
I know who they were trying to compete with. It was obvious it was the model Y. That was not my point. They could have slapped the Escape name or Bronco Sport name on it and they would have sold just as many. If they had made an actual electric sports car, not a crossover, Mustang they would have satisfied the Mustang fans too. Instead they got dunked on at launch.
@@bl8danjil If I’m not mistaken , there is an EV Mustang in the works. By the way, it’s NOT in ANY way related to the Escape/Bronco sport. 1. It’s primarily rear wheel drive with all wheel drive optional. The Escape is fwd, The Bronco Sport is all wheel drive but front wheel biased. 2. The Mach e front suspension is virtually the same as the Regular Mustang. I looked underneath. Its basically an extended Mustang chassis wise modified for an electric motor between the wheels. Much like a stretch limo. I didn’t realize it until I went the the Mustang Training class and the instructor showed us a few things. Again, totally different from the Escape/Bronco. As for the ridicule, part of the reason for the name sharing was indeed to create the “buzz” . People started talking that normally wouldn’t. Free publicity. Then people drove it and found even the base version was faster than most versions of the current Mustang. Yes, it’s a crossover. No, it’s not marketed at the same demographic as the regular Mustang. Ford has one thing in mind: sell it. A couple version would NOT have sold as many because people simply don’t buy that many coupes. Coupes are a niche market. So they wanted to make it closer to mainstream If the only complaint against this vehicle is the wrong name, that’s no big deal. Most simply call it the Mach E anyway. . In a few years it’ll probably be officially named the Mach e. And a real Coupe will likely be called the Mustang. That’s just my prediction.
Again, the Escape Bronco sport have NOTHING in common with the Mach e platform. Whoever said that gave you some misinformation. The Bronco sport, escape and MAVERICK share the same platform.
Can’t love either door handles in front or back seats
I completely disagree with the charging port being in the front being convenient. I think it is a huge pain in the ass for the charging port in the front because not everyone's garage extends into the home and it makes it weird when I have to unload stuff from my trunk. That means in my case I would have to unload the groceries first and then have to start the car and reverse and back into my garage in order to charge my car for the night. I would much rather have cables that extend to the back of the car so that when I park in my garage, I can just charge and not have to worry about the front. I would much rather have the charging port on the rear side to avoid this issue and I am sure most people would much rather prefer that method.
Great review, no fluff, helpful graphics
Too small for a family. What ticked me off the most was the dealership. They wanted $70,000 for a low end. Walked out, next day I schedule a test drive with Tesla Model Y. They let me take it for 30 min with no one with you. The same day I placed an order and 3 months later my 07StangGT OG clutch sits in my garage with battery cables disconnected. Love my Model Y, besides I don’t trust the public charging system. I drive from El Paso TX to our company in Odessa TX and it’s a blast of a drive.
I have a 2021 GTPE, and my only complaint is the radio presets randomly reset for no apparent reason. Very annoying. Actually, I have 2 complaints, the 2nd being the navigation is poor and I hate that it constantly says to go to the carpool lane.
They are all recalled. How much do they cost?!
Nice review.
We received our 2023 Model Y LR in March and we love the driving experience and the regenerative breaking But here a few things we have experienced:
- No sun screen on the roof. We live in Texas and all the other cars we have owned have one and its a must have for our hot summers
- No instrument screen in front of the driver. I don't care for "you will get use to it", if you have to shift your head and eyes off the road it's not a good thing. Tesla puts them on the Model S and X. Its just a cost cutting measure.
- Its nice that when you turn on your blinker an image pops up on the screen for the right or left side of the car. Only problem is, who looks right to make a left turn? They should also have a blind spot light on the exterior mirror like all other cars.
- Since we ordered the white seats they also gave us the white door and dash trim. We get a lot of glare from it, I rather have the wood. And tan seats for that matter.
- No Apple Car play, I knew it when we order it, but we use different apps on our iPhone's, pads, TVs and stereo equipment. So streaming it from our phone is a poor substitution. As an example is when I are streaming something from my iPhone and the Nav system announces turning directions, it does not pause the streaming media just speaks over it. Because you are streaming, you have to use your phone to make changes. Not even Tesla can match the resources of Apple or Google to update the software or the number of applications. Leave the infotainment to Apple and Google.
- The phone as a key doesn't work ten or fifteen percent of the time. I ordered a key fob to see if it can work better.
- On a recent 250 mile trip using the adaptive cruse control (Autopilot) I had the phantom breaking five or six times. I tried it with and without lane keeping. Real pain.
I agree with the comment, just give me a door handle. All these gimmicks for door handle add cost and do give you any improved function.
The next few years are really going to be interesting. New battery chemistry, shorter recharge times, and more competition to drive down prices and improve the creature comfort of the cars.
This has to be the most comprehensive and truthful list from a Tesla user.
The refresh 3 and y is going to be even more annoying since somehow they decide a screen on the back is more important than one in front on the dash and they are removing the stalks too.
Still a great and efficient drivetrain with better tech integration but you do give up a lot of traditional creature comfort for those
botched Updates are a Classic Ford Problem.
I had a ‘16 Mustang that didn’t ship with CarPlay but it was promised, and did get it as an update… but only for certain USB ports so I had to remove my center console and replace the USB port and then update the software, and the OTA failed so I needed to use a USB drive or go to a dealer.
How about an i4 M50 next for review? On paper it has a slight edge on the Mach E Performance, but real life can be different. Be curious to see such a comparison. The E Perf loaded easily hits the same purchase cost as i4 M50's (which start 'loaded' as is), so they are in the ball park for a lot of comparisons to be done?
It is a great car. Amazing to drive. Way to low ground clearance however for my use. Battery sticks out like half way on bottom. Nothing else to complaing. Price also good.
While I'm not totally convinced by the extra price of my 2021 MME GT, I am super happy it actually shipped with BlueCruise and I've been able to use it for the last 8 or so months (since I got it in early November). I would be very upset with Ford if I wasn't able to use BlueCruise on the MME Premium I nearly bought. One of the big features that the MME is supposed to have.
i know it would have added to the cost but another 5" wider (or 3 1/2' wider and 1 1/2" shorter) would have done wonders for the look and some heritage.
charger in the left side makes sense for UK, stupid for right side driving. when you park your car parallel to the road you always have to pull the cable across the hood.
Thanks for the detailed review! I just got a Bolt EV but this was really helpful for me to see the differences. I'm guessing the price difference makes the Bolt EUV not a competitor but I found it surprising that the EUV has combined leg room of 83.4 inches, more than every other car in the list. Bolt EUV 2nd row headroom is a little tighter though beating only the Niro EV and the Model 3.
Appreciate the heads up for the new channel
Great, thorough job sir. Thank you.
No software update for 2021 model?😢
Why is the Tesla Model Y, "all important?" So it doesn't have a heat pump. How does the heater work?
The heat pump issue is a deal breaker. I'm tired of having to bundle up like an eskimo on cold days. I am definitely not keeping my mach e when the lease is up.
Good summation of your experience. It is hard to see this as anything but a glowing endorsement of the Mach E. I don't have one, a test drive convinced me it was simply bigger than I wanted. I prefer a car sized car for personal use, rather than one trying to be an SUV. Nevertheless, I am very pleased to see this historic American company changing direction to embrace EV technology with such a quality and effective product.
Car sized car? The mach E is not much bigger then a gas mustang or a land yatch like a Rolls or old Cadies.
Also good luck getting any small that's quality besides the MX-30 as my 2020 Gas mustang is like a foot smaller then my 2002 Suberban...
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I have a Lucid Air GT on order. It is spacious inside without having that SUV feel.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough it's actually smaller than the regular Mustang
Great rundown of your experiences without the cultish devotion that would either have you tend to glorify the Mach-E or denigrate it in service to brand loyalty for another EV maker! I've been following reviews of the Mach-E since test driving a Premium 4EX last summer, and yours have been consistently the most informative.
This video makes me feel better about not succumbing to the high degree of interest that I had after my test drive and watching countless videos on this and other EVs. I'm old enough to be patient, and my gut was telling me that it's a bad idea to buy the first generation of any new model (or significant overhaul of an existing model). That seems to have been very wise in retrospect because of the growing pains that early buyers are facing and how many changes have already come to the later models. In time, I'm sure the software updates will be normalized, but we live in a society where software is updated regularly and it's made us an impatient lot.
I don't recall having an issue with the tires on my test drive, but with so much new and just a few hours of seat time, there's only so much to notice. I didn't take it canyon-carving or for an autocross event, so I didn't stress the grip of the tires like others have. While I didn't find the ride at all harsh, I have to admit to really wanting the Magneride suspension just for that extra level of adjustability in the suspension. I don't need all the other things that come with the GT Performance Edition, so the tremendous bump in price cannot be justified.
In my mind, this vehicle is a great family version of a Mustang. The "not a Mustang" crowd needs to remember that not all Mustangs have been GTs and Shelby models. Not everyone wants that, and not everyone needs that for a vehicle they want to use every day. Perhaps the criticisms of those that want everything, want it cheap, and want it now will persuade Ford to keep paying attention and improve their operations. Tesla didn't come out of the gates with vehicles at the level of quality and performance that they exhibit today, so patience is key. It will be interesting to watch how Ford supports the vehicles that have already been sold, and how it handles the improvements that they should make to future models. It will also be interesting to see if/how the 300-pound gorilla reacts over time!
"Real Mustang that got stung by a bee"... good one Alex!
I initially got annoyed when I heard Ford limited the access to the full battery, but after thinking about it...it makes a ton of sense. You can charge this vehicle to 90%-100% every time and not have to worry about depleting your battery's lifespan. Almost every other EV manufacturer suggests only charging to 100% if doing something like a road trip, and otherwise just charge to 80% for normal use and nightly charging
Exactly. Although it is worth noting that most companies (Tesla excepted) walls off at least 5% of the battery, Tesla walls off some but it’s a small percentage
It's a great for normal use. I do wish they'd have a mode that let you charge the battery fully if you need a bit more range though.
The front trunk space also doubles as a significant crumple zone. Reduce this and safety scores and utility go way down.
Thank you Alex for talking about how a frunk is kind of legacy of ICE cars profile - I also like the Ioniq 5 and EV6 giving that space to passengers - though still love Mach E
In an EV with high nickel based chemistries you are not supposed to routinely charge above 80% and must leave at least 10% charge to ensure that the pack last longer. That’s 30% gone. So available range is not really 264 miles. It is 264 x 70% = 185 miles or 295 kilometres. Secondly this much range may not suitable for people living in the North with extreme cold temperatures. A battery pack can loose up to 40% of its range if parked in the open. If you add both of these two conditions together IMHO an EV is not yet ready for colder climates.
That’s built into the software. When the cars shows 0%, there’s actually 10% battery left. Likewise, when the car shows 100%, there’s still about 10% capacity left. So the range is accurate. It will not ALLOW you to empty or overcharge the battery.
My brother just bought a Bronco l, after he let me me drive it man I'm sticking with gas car for as long as fossil fuels are around. Sorry but there's just something about hearing the roar of the engine/exhaust while being able to change gears yourself it's just awesome. I know in the future everything will be electric but as long as oil doesn't run out, I'm sticking to internal combustion
I’m sure you will have that option to stay……I’ve been told that the mach e can make some sounds like an engine……. I have been driving an EV for 5 yrs now……..i do like the quiet….. in late may my Tesla LRMY arrived……i was shocked that after driving my car once….a coworker put in an order for one…..he also test drove many different EVs …….last week…..he just couldn’t wait for his performance MY ….so he opted for the mustang Mach e……..he & his wife are very happy….. i do like the interior and the ride….. it has a cushiness that my Tesla doesn’t have……when i drove his Mach e…..i found it to be quite nice & soft……it drives like an ice car (to me) with the one pedal setting….. i find my MY to be more grippy & exciting to drive……..overall i think the Mach E is a great option for those wanting an EV! Its just a shame at how the dealers are making so many markups
Thanks for the long term review. We went to a couple EV events and were able to try out the Mach E, Toyota BZ4X, EV6, Lucid and XC40. I had put the Mach E very low on my list, but came away impressed. What we kind of didn't like was the "tacked" on iPad and the panorama roof. I think I can live with the iPad and I see you addressed the roof. Seems counterintuitive to have a source of excessive heat and then rely on the a/c to compensate for it drawing dependent electrons. We still need to look at the Ioniq 5, our #1 and the Ariya, #2, but now the Ford is #3.
Got it: thin tires standard, no heat pump, slow DC charging, no V2L; otherwise great. Maybe Ford is working on OTA paint color changes, in return for having to wait for OTA updates? :)
Ive seen 1. Where are they all going
The longer I watched this review of the Mach-E, the more I appreciate my little 2022 Bolt EV 2LT. I won't go into details too much, but I like my Range better and my regular door handles. I don't need a Frunk as I can get everything I ever need in the back. I don't need it to go any faster as I worry about speeding tickets already. After 5700 miles, the ONLY thing I see as a negative is the longer charging times for really long trips (greater than 150 miles one-way). Glad that Ford is trying, but I'm not tied to any single automaker. This is the first Chevrolet (or Ford) since the 70's for me. I have been driving for 58 years and my Bolt is the absolute easiest vehicle I have ever driven. And it was incredibly CHEAP (like THOUSANDS cheaper than anything comparable). No - my Bolt does NOT handle like the sports cars that I have owned for years, but it is still awesome. I hate that GM is abandoning it.
Regarding front trunk and front overhang length. What about safety in a crash? Isn’t likely that a longer “hood” provides a better crumple zone making the vehicle likely to perform better in a frontal crash?
MachE battery buffer is too big, 10kwh being walled off sounds bad when you realize a tesla will lose around 7-8kwh of capacity after 200,000 miles according to data compiled by drivers but still manage to have 30-20 miles left at 0% charge.
I just remember one major problem with my Mustang Mach -E. the outside mirrors are not worth the glass they have. I normally set my mirrors to jst see my side of the my car. All others car mirrors I see cars along side of me. So I don't change lanes and cause an accident. NOT the mustang mirrors. Several time i did not see a car along side of me. I needed to drastically move the mirrors out. But for me I lose perspective of depth of view.
Alex nice to have all the EV's in on channel, love the channel and good luck!
Portrait mode in Apple CarPlay actually has been updated OTA already, Not sure why your car hasn't gotten yet. It's included in Power-Up 2.3.0, which my car got about a month ago.
As he said early adopters have failed installs and are no where near receiving 2.3.0. As you note you have it so we assume not an early adopter. OTA with Ford has been nothing but a bad joke.
@@peterpan8727 I have an early Jan 2021 build (same as Alex) and I’ve received every OTA successfully.
@@stangmatt66 You appear to be one of the lucky ones. I have below 2000 vin and have been stuck on 1.6 with a fail 1.7.1 like forever. Understand Ford keeps up grading you lucky ones while continuing to ignore the ones that they sold a defective one to.
Must be sad to see it go with that short list of nitpicks. Waiting forever for my order to actually be put into production and Ford just halted the factory due to chip shortage again. Perfect by no means I loved it on my test drive and the wait is killing me.
In my market, there are none on the sales floor and orders have up to a 1-year wait, made worse by the continued chip shortage.
I'd recommend the Model Y instead. It's a better investment.
@@Tom-cn4cm Yeah, less car for more money lol.
The factory is taking a siesta.
My 2021 I bought back in Dec 2021 has full blue cruise and got the fast charge update. I'd be pissed if I bought the first ones and got pushed aside.
A long hood does allow for crumple zones making it safer (if designed properly) in an accident than an extremely stubby front end
I’ll be interested when I can get an awd one of these for around 35
Wishful thinking on my part though
My interest is peaked and idc about the Mustang name and I do like the styling and size and hatchback like versatility. I’m going to give it a couple years and hopefully they come down a little on price and figure out some of the quirks but it’s a great start
Makes me wonder if I should avoid buying the first year 2022 BMW
Overall, looks like Ford is doing a good job.
So what would you do in Canada at -30C ? Drive 2 miles?
We love our Mach-E!
The charging experience in the Mach-E is excellent and very Tesla-like when using Electrify America, and frustrating on the VW ID.4, which is ironic considering that EA was set up as a result of Volkswagen's doing (diesel-gate)!
Tesla-like? You have definitely not owned a Tesla
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 Eh? You pull up, plug in and the car communicates with the charger, just like at a Tesla Supercharger.
@@JustWasted3HoursHere I see charging as a weakness for non-Tesla cars. Electrify America averages between 3-5 stalls per station. As EVs become more popular, the EA stations will have long wait times. Tesla stations have a minimum of 8 stalls but more commonly 12. In the case of the I5 corridor, Tesla has almost three times more stations. 3 stations have 50+ stalls, 1 with 40, the rest have 8-30 stalls each. Tesla is also building an additional 40, 50, and 80 stall station on the same corridor. Tesla is committed to add more stations as needed and properly maintain them unlike EA.
@@spencer4733 Well for sure Tesla saw, right from the beginning, that charging infrastructure was going to be task number one for making Teslas appealing to the public, and it didn't hurt that early Teslas got "Supercharging for life" (don't know if that's still a thing or not). They have massively poured resources into expanding that infrastructure worldwide and are only increasing that. I drive a non-Tesla EV, a 2016 Kia Soul EV+, and for me it's no issue because I do 95% of my charging at home with only the very occasional stop at an outside DC fast charger, and only to get enough charge to either get me to my destination or home. EV adoption is going to be the hardest for people who don't have access to a home charger, in my opinion, because that's the most convenient and cheapest option (I pay about 10 cents per KW).
Great video, info, comparisons, and rapid delivery. Time stamps would be cherry on top.
Can anyone tell me why there are so many 2021 used Mach E’s for sale? Low mileage cars wondering why they have been traded in.
Alex, how many OTA updates have you received in the last year? Also, how many were fixes to problems vs new features/improvements to existing features? I would love to see auto reviewers provide more in-depth coverage of OTA updates. With many OEMs making a big deal of OTA updates in the marketing of their EVs, most if not all (except Tesla) still seem to far short with software updates that still require dealer visits or releasing very few or no updates at all.
Most people who are not in the software business have no idea how complicated software is. It takes an army of software engineers to maintain and write new code everyday. Ford? No way, unless they move their headquarters to Silicon Valley and hire an army of software engineers there. Until then, forget about anything decent from Ford, or almost any other legacy automakers.
I’m similar miles on same car, when the trail of the built in GPS, Alexa and blue oval is over are they gona charge people monthly to use built in feature
the Michelin pss or p4s is a superior tire in every way, if you upgrade on your next one I highly recommend giving those a shot.
Having been a ford person most of my car owning life the Mach-e was very tempting we bought last summer, but went more tried and true with a Y. Happy with the car, the tech is wonderful. The ride is too rough. Winter range...SUCKS. I often see 1% drop per mile of driving...in 15F type weather. So that's what, 60 miles if you keep it between 20% and 80%...not sure if this is the same for all EVs, and ours lives outside for now. Flip side is not spending $200/month on gas (aka fuel), so that's good.
There are not chargers where you need chargers...that affects all EVs and should get better with time. An interstate trip is no worry, but take a day trip into the country/rural areas and even smaller towns and you find range anxiety is real.
Pre-warm your vehicle if it’s on a charger before you leave, that will keep you from leaving with a cold battery and give significantly improved range.
@@nicholasthon973 that's what I do. In 15f I get about 1 mile for every 1%
@@chrisperry3525 the initial drop is usually quite high in cold weather as the car heats its battery and cabin (even if you preheat for 30 minutes) if you drive for an hour consumption will dropp and you will be able to get more than 60 miles out of 60%. Also on longer trips you should not be afraid to hit 10% before charging unless the weather is really bad. I have 7 years and 200 000miles behind me in a Model S in Norther Norway with winter temperatures down to -35C/-31F and have driven way longer than 60 miles even in my old P85+
Just ride the bus:)
Cacn you please review the 2022 Mach E Premium
I have been checking the cost per mile and priced paid at charging station. cost in much greater to drive the much -e.
Alex - great job - BUT - one huge question: You mentioned that your range is approximately 265 miles. However - in this video, the center screen showed you were getting 2.7 mi/kwh. If that's so - your range would be approximately 240 miles.
So - can you please explain?
Thanks - and keep up the great work!
Range is dependant on a wide variety of things, the trip computer shown was after mountain climbing so the consumption rate was higher.
Alex…I appreciate your reply, but the video shows that you’ve traveled over 9,000 miles (trip B), with 2.7 mi/kWh. Right?
Is there a safety factor to having the longer front end? Longer crumple zone seems like it would be better, but perhaps not.
you were using the rear door wrong, you don't have to grab the door, you grab by the release button to open, there is a rubber grip inside that you use, after a year I am surprised you didn't realize that unfortunately