" those who cannot see friendship as substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration on ( romance) betray the fact that they have never had a friend" ... C.S. Lewis...
@@ericvulgate I'm not sure theaters like that allowed to exist. Are you just making this up or there are really theaters in the US what actually locks you in till the end? I can imagine. There is a lot of insane thing exist in the USA.
@@Zodroo_Tint it was sarcasm poking fun at the original comment saying the hypothetical straight couple was subjected to 2 hours of the movie when they could have just left the theater.
Billy´s Wiki has "gay" 17 times, IMDB 7 times. If I searched various combinations of "lgbtqjhfd+-*/" the number would go up massively. You´re welcome :p
I’m so tired of people asserting that if two men are close, they must’ve been gay. Men can have incredibly close friendships, they are called best friends.
I guess those people are unaware and/or ignorant about platonic love since the Ancient Greeks believed in four types of love which include Eros that is erotic love obviously, Philia which is the love of friends as well as equals, Storge the love of parents towards their children then finally Agape that's essentially just love of mankind as a whole aka unconditional love.
Don’t you know? If men have male friends they are obviously gay, if men have female friends they are obviously cheating on their girlfriend. So the only solution is to be friendless i guess.
They genuinely don't believe that. That's why there's this weird push to say any historical or even fictional figure who had any kind of friendship with a member of the same sex was gay.
The Birdcage was brilliant and hilarious, even if I was technically too young to be watching it but... I loved Robin Williams and Nathan Lane, may the former R.I.P. but even that movie did well in addressing the struggle of being LGB, not including drag in the T, but the whole thing was handled so much more tastefully. Probably because Nathan Lane wouldn't settle for a trash production, as he was the BEST version of the Camp Gay archetype.
I'm only 9 minutes in and yet I've seen almost every negative stereotype about the gay community. All that's missing is a rampant STD epidemic and hamster abuse.
I'm bisexual and I agree with you, this film was purposely made to breed homophobia, this film is nothing but disgusting hateful propaganda and anyone LGB person who enjoys it should be branded a traitor!
I’m a… elder millennial gay man. This movie is basically a representation of my worst nightmare come true. Growing up was difficult for me because i was constantly made fun of. I was quiet, sensitive… I didn’t really like “boy stuff” mainly because I didn’t relate. I knew I was different at a very young age but I was always scared to bring it up because it was frowned upon. One thing that always bothered me was when I came out, IMMEDIATELY everyone thought I was sexually promiscuous. Everyone assumed I was having butt sex…. I tried my whole young adult life to convince people that as a gay man, I was more than my sexual orientation. I’m an artist, I love being creative, and I love everything beautiful about this world. I love my family and friends.…. Everything was going so great around 2015 and I was starting to feel respected as a human being, and not just some gay guy…. I don’t know what’s going on today but current LGBTQ+ LMNOP123 non binary, gender-fluid…. What the FUCK! It’s overwhelming… just like this movie! I literally wanted to have a panic attack every single fucking minute of this movie. It was horrible!!! trust me. There’s a lot of us out there who don’t agree with a lot of this crap and we’re just watching everything we’ve worked for crumble down to the ground. This is a nightmare.
Bro, men can have deep and meaniful relationships with one another without being gay. I'm sure women can too, but gays have queered the pitch. Gay men look on real male to male relationships as straight men look at a relationship with women. And they aren't the same at all, and you wrecked that for us. To someone who only has a hammer everything looks like a nail. Straight people are not one dimensional.
Well put. The vast majority of people have no problem with gays, only the pushing of transsexuality on minors has upset people, not transexuals per se. When people- mainly egomaniacs- talk as if they're the spokesperson for all gay people, they're taking liberties not with straight people, ONLY gay people. I think it's for gay people to discard every letter that comes after LGB in the ever growing alphabet of "Anything but Straight". Even being gay is seen as bigoted in a system where certainties can no longer exist.
Unfortunately its the loud ones that are heard the most. Its stupid to think that gay people are any more promiscuous than straight people, I mean we have shows like love island with a bunch of straight people being absolutely bonkers about s€x. People are people and they shouldn’t form their personalities on just the fact they either want to f other people or don’t.
You aren't gay. You're a person with deviant sexual interests, which have either been spurred on by influences in your life or just purely spontaneously. Either way, it's up to you to choose whether or not you give into these things. Also pretty strange how gay people still have sex organs.... none of it makes any sense.
Fun fact: Martina Navratilova is a Bisexual Tennis LGB activist who opposes Trans Women Competing in Women sports. The fact she was referenced in the Movie is Hilarious.
I'm Gay, never made it a big part of my personality and never ever made it even a part of my personality. Everyone who makes that stuff his or her whole personality is a sad little Wiener who has nothing else of importance in life and will most likely never have it
I'm gay, and it isn't. And none of my hundreds of gay friends think that way either. This is a product of woke Hollywood, and nothing to do with gay men.
Worse yet. Every single line of this film sounds like it's a parody of the LGBTQ Communty(tm) from their mad obsession with sex to their sole tactic being rewriting existing things to be LGBTQ to never EVER STFU about LQBTQ. But it's entirely serious. This movie's writing is more than just terrible. *_It's insulting,_* especially of the very demographic it's trying to pander to.
If a movie shows in a theater and nobody is there to see it, does it truly exist? Hell I bet even the projectionist threw in the reel and turned around to go throw in his headphones to experience *anything* else.
I still can't understand how anyone could see this movie as anything other than insulting. It basically paints the LGBTQ community as a bunch of sex obsessed, not committal, narcists who can't go five minutes without talking about being Gay. It really does feel like a parody you'd see on South Park.
And family guy. I remember that Brian's cousin Jasper was a hated character for being so stereotyping and the Gay marriage episode was controversial. Same with Family Gay. Now these episodes are spreading everywhere but more obnoxious
I mean... It's not completely false. Most of them are that way, and just because "I know A and most of them are not like that" does not mean the entire community is like the people you know.
@@Leonard_Wolf_2056 But we were told that these stereotypes are homophobic and gay people need "good" representation. Recently a trans male got attacked for his poly gay webtoon even though he's from Indonesia. And his comic is not as bad as Billy's Bros movie. At there's actually love in the comic. A/n : Also Bros is also pushing the grooming angle which is really bad. It's already bad enough that it's encouraged.
My cousin is gay and has been married to his gay husband for like 15 years now. I asked if they were gonna go see Bros. He said he and his husband had no interest in seeing a rom com. They said the great thing about being gay is they don't have to watch girly movies. I think it's possible that men, even gay men, don't necessarily enjoy romantic comedies.
A romcom about 2 men has got to cater to the smallest niche in cinema; men aren't known for liking romcoms (and being gay doesn't automatically switch your other preferences), straight women wouldn't be able to drag their partner to it, and lesbians wouldn't be interested. It was going to struggle even if it wasn't godawful.
@@CarrionCrow993 agreed. This film had quite possibly the smallest target audience in the history of mainstream cinema releases, and it had a larger budget than Godzilla Minus One - without even adjusting for inflation. This whole concept should never have been more than a quirky theatre play.
@@TagSpamCopremember when girls in school all claimed to be “bi” and would occasionally give each other a peck on the lips? B/c they thought the guy students were that into lesbians. That’s what’s happening now
@@TagSpamCop teens have always been seeking attention, now throw in gender confusion that gets nearly nothing but praise and the cancer that is social media you start to see the real problem. It's ALL planned social contagion and nothing more, teen brains aren't fully developed but these nuts are completely a-okay with allowing them to make permanent life decisions without telling them the negatives of what they're signing up for
"Hey, let's make a movie about gay people being gay. Except, let's make it the most insufferable movie of all time, then call everyone homophobic if they don't like it." - Bros 2022.
When I first saw a promo for this, I was astounded at the lack of understanding of the core audience for rom-coms: straight women. If this movie wanted *any* chance of succeeding, the lead actor needed to *look* like a leading actor (i.e. he needed to be attractive), he needed to have a straight female best friend who was trying to help him sort out his disastrous love life, and not have lines like, "I want you to f^ck me," malign parents, or act like half of a kindergarten class identifying as non-binary is funny, rather than horrifying. Basically, look at what made Will & Grace work and then do that with a splash more romance.
@@RobertMorgan no, even the current wave of gender-studies majors who proudly display their unshaved armpits are not going to spend money to watch a 3 sucking face with a 6. It reminds them too much of their miserable dating experiences seeing unattractive people making out.
@@RobertMorgan Wanna know a secret my dude? Modern women may act tough and masculine and stuff, but they still love girly things and always, ALWAYS have a crush on The Badass Chad, not The Pathetic Soyboy. (I've seen feminists have a crush on handsome right-wing essayists and it's always very funny how conflicted they are about it.)
I'm glad I waited until it was out on a streaming platform that I had so I didn't have to pay for it. It felt way too preachy. I watched it for the hot boyfriend.
Even if it was good it was going to bomb. The problem with a very gay centric film is that it simply doesn’t have a large enough potential audience to produce $140 million + that this movie needed to break even. The straight audience is just that much larger. That said, if I heard this film was good, I might watch it on streaming, but I’m not paying $15 to see it in a theater when I don’t know anyone else that wants to see it in a theater either. It’s just simple financial reality.
"You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring realty." seems like the perfect quote for Eichner's mindset when making this movie. How massive the self-created bubble of yes-men is doesn't matter, what matters is how many people want to see the movie and what the audience thinks of it.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 I mean they've convinced half the population, if not more, since the early 1900s. This part of the cult is a bit deeper though, and most wheren't ready.
Yea, I remember that Bobby doesn't want to have a gay wedding scene in the museum because he says "we're not promoting heteronormativity" or something like that. Also the guy dislikes how his lover (Aaron) likes country music, as if gays can't love any music that's not Mariah Carey...
@@nostoevskylook I’m a gay man and I HATED this movie. It made us look soooooo bad. I had low expectations going into it when he kept saying the first movie in history this and the first movie in history that just turned me off from it. Dude literally put every single gay issue into a two hour slog fest. And billy is obviously that one gay guy who loves making straight people uncomfortable and other gay people who aren’t like him feel bad. Bro has some growing up to do.
Yup, they do the same thing with other groups as well. Look at Joe Biden saying "if you're black and you vote for Trump, well, you're not black!" As if black folk's heritage is on loan from the Democrat party and can be revoked at any time if you're not doing as you're told. Keep in mind that this is the same party that brought us slavery, the KKK, segregation, Jim Crow laws and on and on.
@@perryjones7771what's funny is he thinks he makes straight people uncomfortable and he's edgy and all that, but really we just look at him like a sad little boy who rides the short bus.
I'm bi and I'm honestly sick of this self congratulatory attitude many people in the lgbt community put forth. Being gay or lesbian or whatever is not interesting, it's not a personality, it's a sexual preference. People making into their entire identity are usually very shallow and uninteresting people, which is why this movie sucked and nobody saw it
I noticed a pretty bad pattern of how studios and corporations seem supportive for the LGBT community only for it to be a false illusion to gain money from them because it's trendy, Disney, Activision-Blizzard and even Target proved that and are all speedrunning into the ground while the community is facing a very bad problem of it's own.
I remember seeing Bo Jackson (An African American Running Back for the then LA Raiders 🩶🖤) being the main character in TECHMO BOWL 🏈. And that was around at the same time at Mike Tyson's PUNCH OUT 🥊
In many ways, they admitted that the movie was more or less a self aggrandizment project. That guy admits that this piece of "art" was a "reflection of myself." In other words, it's a self-portrait. Whenever someone makes a self-portrait, they generally try to make themselves look as good as possible. Apparently "as good as possible" for these artistic geniuses was a mean-spirited and narrasistic film about just how great they are and how much everyone wishes they were them, without a shred of self-awareness.
If anyone who plays video games can't find a "reflection of themselves" in the thousands upon thousands of video games that have been released over the last 50 years, and is resulting upset about it, then they are not a gamer; they're just some narcissistic ponce that doesn't know that Google results go past the first page.
If nothing else, that scene where they are all sitting at the table whining about various stuff perfectly encapsulates them as a people. Miserable, always wanting more, always bickering, always correcting each other, talking over top of each other, screaming for no reason, throwing around buzzwords like they were conjunctions, worried about representation... and, of course, being as unfunny and unlikeable as humanly possible.
Don't underestimate how much actual real-world gay people despise these stereotypes and tropes. I'm gay and this looks like a freaking clown show of losers and idiots playing every gross stereotype and cliche completely - for lack of a better term, and excuse the pun - straight. With all the shoving of gender identity ideology down kid's throats, this was absolutely the last kind of movie I would want to have anything to do with. Completely tonedeaf. Luke Macfarlane is actually a good actor, and this film was obviously wasted on him.
Note "The Whale" was about a gay character, but done right. The majority of gay people can live their daily lives without flaunting their gayness. They live the same lives as straight people, but like men. How many opportunities do the majority of us discuss our sex lives with friends and co-workers? Either not at all or very rated G.
Great point. I wasn't even thinking about that when I included it in the video, because the Whale's sexuality isn't made a big deal of in the movie; in Bros, it is the movie.
What's funny is that WOMEN do that more than men. Men might go as far as "I tapped that" or "She's wild in bed" but that's really it. It's women, especially like nurses and such, who will have conversations about how pulled a guy into the bathroom to suck him off. Weird how straight men, the supposedly sexual predators, are the ones who are like "I don't really need to be part of this conversation."
@@BWMagus man, that reminds me of girls i knew when i was going to middle school. whenever they started talking me and my friends would just quietly sneak away as all they would talk about was sex and dudes. honestly i never met more stupid and empty people than that group of women
They weren't thinking at all. This is simply the few radical on your side. Just like my religion (Christianity) had and still have people hunting down others and raping kids in the name of god. Your side have the few bad apples that just don't wanna accept that people can live their lives privately. Anyone with a brain can tell that these sorta people are few and far between, and that this is simply what happens to certain people when they reach some sort of power.
This whole movie felt like a parody trying to portray gay people as the most sexually promiscuous, non-committal, and annoyingly insistent people in the world. It's no wonder that both sides of the aisle hated this movie.
"That's actually the best time to teach them, when they're young, you know, that way they develop an appreciation for queer people..." Right there. That line right there hits a bit different now, doesn't it?
saying that they want to introduce gay people as 'part of life' so that people feel compelled to be gay to fit in or whatnot...it's a combination of social engineering and societal grooming, only their cause is so stupid that it doesn't feel like a big deal even though it really is.
It's funny, they tried so hard to make the gay characters seem normal but they made them out to be offensive caricatures with their sexuality being their defining trait. But remember guys, _we're_ the assholes.
yep. straight people dont wanna go see movie because its preachy and gay people dont wanna see movie because everyone is a harmful stereotype. but hey, its obviously the audiences fault that it flops.
@@KossolaxtheForesworn It must be really nice to live like those rich idiots. Never owning a mirror so you never see the source of your problems. It's like the old saying: "If you smell shit everywhere you go, you better check your shoes."
Wait, so he made a movie ABOUT gay people DOING gay activities and after realizing that straight people do not come to see the movie, he complained? What?
I’d watch a movie featuring an interesting, well developed character from an appealing movie that just happens to be gay, but this is literally just made for gay dudes and even most of them hated it.
If this was a movie about a gay guy doing John Wick stuff nobody would really have a problem. But it's a movie about a guy guy being gay and complaining about how hard being gay is which just isn't interesting.
@@ShadowRulah Agreed. An action flick with a badass protagonist who just happen to be gay would've been far more successful. Hell, they can even make him as flamboyant as they want, as long as they're written well enough. Venture Bros already proved it can be done with Shore Leave and Colonel Gentleman.
You cant make it up. Billy REALLY used the "and everybody laughed and applauded at the end" 😭. It's legit the oldest damn trick to the point that it seems like a parody 💀
If a straight man had to take a shot every time they'd have to yell "PAUSE" at every single homoerotic interaction or modern LGBTQIACDCHVACXYZ reference, they're dead of alcohol poisoning by the middle of act 2.
imagine actually thinking that a kid is gonna know if they're gay or not when they haven't even hit puberty yet. when I was 7-8, I wanted to be an owl so I could join the Guardians of Ga'Hoole.
You so eloquently break down why the movie industry’s narcissistic bubble has led them to ruin. Bros is not an exception, just a shining example among the disasters that comprises Hollywood today.
@@kenstrumpf909agreed. The systematic ineptitude was not indicative of the whole nation. If you are unprepared for a war, surrender is not cowardly. The French Resistance were as brave or more so than the average WW2 soldier
What is ironic about the "Jar Jar Binks" effect, is that Lucas had already run into the same issue with the Ewoks. It could have just as easily been called the "Ewok Effect."
The Ewoks actually compromised a story thread that started in Empire with Chewie rescuing C-3PO and carrying the droid on his back for safety. Though technically it starts in Chapter 4 with Chewie not tearing C-3PO's arm off after losing at chess, but I digress. Anyway, the Ewoks were supposed to be Wookies, but they cut their costuming budget literally in half and had built in toys for Kenner to sell by adding them. Chewie was supposed to return home, essentially bringing God with him, and would be eternally revered by his clan. A huge life-changing aspect of the character shaved off for budget and marketing purposes.
Difference is that George Lucas knew how to implement it into the story without sabotaging Episode 6. Jar Jar Binks effect is when creator is so popular, that no one questions him, and that not questioning leads to disaster.
I remember when I saw ads for this movie. I knew immediately that it was going to be a failure but I had absolutely no idea how much of a disastrous failure it truly was
It is not an audience's responsibility to "show up" or "support" your film. It is YOUR responsibility as a film maker to make films that an audience actually wants to see and is willing to plunk down their cold, hard cash for. Hollywood has a ton of waking up to do.
Just jealous a bisexual person if they so choose (or if necessary) choose to be in a heterosexual relationship. Even though bisexuals tend to prefer one sex heavily over the other.
Is it time to stop treating this as if it's a lie and just admit the truth? 'gay sex in front of kids' 'teach 7 year olds about sex' 'it's not that young' 'I was shown gay things as a child and am fine' Because this feels like an accidental mask off moment for William here.
This is disgusting, would still be disgusting if it was about straight sexual content and there are many gays trying to distance themselves of people who think like this groomer. Yet we can't ignore that this really exists and is a threat to our children. Not the gay people, the groomers.
Teaching kids regarding this topic should NEVER involve sex…imagine asking your dad/mom how you were born and they explain process of sex to you at 7 years old…that’s gonna cause damages to you…
I'm gay and I can say mouthful that "Bros" is a humongous pile of crap, filled out with stereotypes, cliches, and unnecessary drama. A very small % of us live our lives being gay 24/7. The vast majority of us live normal, regular lives, have standard jobs, and deal with daily stuff like everyone else. This is why most of us had a really hard time identifying and sympathizing with this shit. No one lives "as gay" every single second of the day, being gay is just part of who I am, but it is not who I am as a whole.
If you're only homosexual, you need a job and a hobby, if you're writing a gay character for the love of god do not define them only by their sexuality. There's nothing wrong with being homosexual, just don't define your life by it.
Bill Eichner did zero market research for the male-male romance genre market. He got his target demographics all wrong. For starters the romance genre is mostly consumed by women. The male-male genre in particular brings in straight women. Where did Bros appeal to straight chicks? Nowhere. He made it clear it is a movie purely for gay men. Straight women do not care about the LGBT museum or any of the commentary about the gay community. If anything a lot of the comments like introducing children to gay stuff is a massive turn off for most women. He needed to keep the social commentary out and the issues that were dealt with needed to be more universal in nature. Even most gays don't like the overly woke preaching. They want to actually enjoy the movie and not be preached at. The general formula for a successful gay flick is take a straight drama and replace the chick with a dude. That is all. Don't try to change anything else. Also final note: Don't make main lead look like a beta loser. He needs to look either cool or cute.
Straight women have a big interest in gay movies, proven by call me by your name, heartstoppers, royal blue, call me by your name and countless anime. But you have to do it the right way.
Lots of LGBTQ people like Billy hate that women in general enjoy this content, and theyve managed to convince their ally minions to villify this demographic and reduce them to fetishizers. they just find it gross and would rather burn these women at the stake than admit that they need their cis hetero money to keep their content going.
Anybody remember "Will & Grace"? The main male protagonists were gay as gay can be. And the series was a wild success. Because it was mercyless funny and witty.
@@LIBERTYSINCURSION think he means the one where a gay singing group were "satirically" singing that they were indeed coming for your children to turn them gay. And they quickly took the video down when everyone was like 'oh wow, you said the quiet part loud' And the cherry on top was at least one of the members of the group was a convicted child predator.
Eichner's character Bobby is essentially a toxic narcissist. There's a scene where Bobby has an argument outside with his love interest Aaron, and he just rips his heart out in front of a bystander and leaves him there crying in the dark. It's unbelievable. Having a main character that is flawed is one thing, but for him to be cruel to someone he 'loves' makes him completely unlikeable and not interesting. It's too bad, because there was the potential to tell a new kind of gay love story with Bros, that could have been interesting and funny.
See, I actually disagree. This was never going to be a good movie because it came from the mind of Billy Eichner. They clearly gave him full reign. If he wanted to make a different movie he would have.
I'm glad the "reflection of myself" guy is getting called out. I remember watching that special. For the most part it was a lot of fun with lots of nostalgia, the few moments he was featured were really difficult to watch. The "Existing in public spaces" language he used was right out of a gender studies lecture. It would have been sad were it not so annoying. But hey, it was Netflix. Good work as always, Despot.
@@TaoScribble It was a special about self absorbed c-nts who lack the empathy necessary for them to relate to people and characters who look different from themselves, despite having shared interests, goals, abilities and so on. Calling it a "special" is being far too generous, but calling it a "normal" or a "heard it all before and didn't give a f-ck the first 500 times" doesn't generate as much interest. On a more positive note: I can't wait to see this guy as the next Cleopatra.
I’m hoping the ‘skin-tellectual’ (as the Despot called him) who said ‘it’s sexist, and it’s xenophobic’ from Netflix’s Cleopatra starts making more appearances. That guy has serious potential just like ‘Mr Reflection’ if not more so.
@@TaoScribble It was called High Score. Documentary on the history of video games. It had some really good parts until that guy appeared. He's even more cringe than you think. He was part of some memorable titles, but you could tell they interviewed the guy specifically because of his place on the intersectional hierarchy (black AND gay). otherwise he was just another programmer.
Billy Eichner: "I love this movie so much!" What he really meant: "I love myself so much!" Good thing HE does. Hope that narcissism gets him through the rest of his lonely, miserable life. Edit: I was going to say, "Failing that, he should get a cat and call it good." But that would be a bad idea, as the first time he passed by a mirror he'd forget it existed and it would starve to death. 🤷♂️
The thing i find the most disgusting about this movie is Billy just straight up admiting in the movie that grooming children is the goal of the movement. Also, he can fuck right off for that line saying that Jesus was gay.
I found some of the clips of the meeting mildly amusing, when taken out of context of the movie and assuming it’s a movie designed to mock the alphabet mafia.
I actually called this. On a Reddit thread I said that this movie was going to fail and it would be blamed on homophobia. I was promptly permanently banned from that sub.
It always amazes me when people like this pretend "heteronormativity" is a problem. It's not. It's how we all get here. Like it or not, being straight is normal and there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm gay and I completely agree. Most of my gay friends do too --- being straight _is_ normal, and "heteronormativity" is basically just a description of reality. I mean, don't go out of your way to _erase_ us or whatever, but I hate forced representation in TV and cinema. Like, no, not every story has to include a gay character. When it suits the story, or adds texture to a character or whatever? Then sure! But people getting bent out of shape because they don't "feel" "represented" enough is so much delicate-snowflakism I can't stomach it.
@@eunomiac I'm gay and same. If it weren't for hEtErOnOrMaTiViTy I wouldn't have been born, nor would anyone reading this comment right now. So if you think it's a problem, you really don't appreciate your life.
I'm bisexual too and i know right ? This is just awful, even Birdcage from 1996 and Hirschfeld's "Different From Others" (1919) did a better job on lgbt representation. Even Fallout New Vegas from 2010 did a better job
They really missed a great opportunity. They could of shown the struggle of a middle aged gay man who wants to find a serious partner to share the rest of his life with and finally settle down. Unfortunately, all he can find is hyper sexual younger gay men that are only interested in hook up culture and one night stands. So now he is in a panic that he will grow old and die alone, especially when his physical attractiveness diminishes. Every single gay friend my age is going through this same exact struggle in their lives, and I think it would have been a great way to address a real world problem.
That's really no different than any other person who worries about that though. And it's not as if being gay is a handicap either. The story has been done to death. It's boring when it's specifically about what is now been pushed to the absurdity it us now - KINK & pedophiles on display & drag/tranzing being forced onto kids as a normal gay thing to "progress" into.
You wrote a better movie in a comment section. How is no one else in the industry creative enough to do that? And that idea has universal appeal because a lot of middle aged people have had similar experiences with trying to reconnect with people after the death of a loved one or a divorce. They don't want to engage with hookup culture at that age. That would have helped the movie make money.
This movie was doomed the minute it had Billy Eichner involved as star and writer. Billy was by no means a draw nor was he particularly well liked or respected. It just makes no sense. The fact that the film mocks Schitts Creek is a riot because Dan Levy would have made a more endearing lead and probably would have written a better script.
@@ralphwiggum1982 Well it's best for HIM to teach them young. Besides he was exposed to gay sex when he was a little kid and "he turned out fine". Fine as in a gay man, so obsessed with gay sex everything in his life revolves around it. From his gay job, his gay friends, his gay dream of making a gay movie about a promiscuous gay man with, wait for it, a cast and crew that are all 100% gay. What's the big deal?
10 minutes in, and I’m averting my eyes. If my husband had taken me to see this when we were dating…I think we’d have both fled together, or I’d be leaving that theater single. I have gay friends/family; it’s fine, whatever. I don’t need to see it just like they don’t need to see what I’m doing in my bedroom. There’s something to be said for privacy and respect that’s totally lacking in today’s culture.
I couldn’t even make myself watch Brokeback Mountain. I love the main characters, but as soon as I heard about the direction the film takes, I was like HARD PASS.
"I don’t need to see it just like they don’t need to see what I’m doing in my bedroom" - that's probably the best summary of everything related to LGBTQ+ I've ever seen on the internet :)
Honestly, that goes for straight stuff too. There's nothing like having to sit awkwardly in a full cinema theatre waiting out a gratuitous sex scene that adds nothing to the plot/characters and is only there to tick a box.
@@RuailleBuaille I was about to say this 😂 people call me a prude for it, but it honestly gets annoying after a certain point, but I just skip the scenes
The only good part is bringing to light the term transphobic. They’ve rendered it useless. Calling people who didn’t like his movie transphobic is just golden.
@@R-Lee- Neither of those things are "phobic", so I guess they could be considered to be somewhat interchangable in the way that they get used for gaslighting.
Moonlight had allegories, metaphors and deep perspective of what is is like to be gay in an extremely rude (thug) environment. Bros is just vulgar. It's like some of these people can't create anything artistic or thoughtful without being vulgar. Take a look at their parades.
No Billy children don’t need to learn about anything gay history when they are still learning to add and subtract. The parents will decide that thank you very much.
Kids can barely pick a favorite color, what to eat for dinner, what cartoon they want to watch for movie night, nir do things like own a firearm, drive, drink, or use drugs stronger than Nyquil under parental supervision, etc. But apparently they're mature enough to know their sexual orientation and gender🤪 Leave em alone; maybe when they are smart enough to identify Japan on a map before we teach them about buttplugs, we'll be making progress back toward our perfectly awful as it was education system.
Im gay and yeah - 7 is way too young. however I do think by the 5th/6th grade kids could use a class on bullying and differences. I think a big problem with my community is the way bullying in childhood can have life long consequences for us.
We may live in a world where the vast majority of people are afraid to speak up when they disagree but at least the results speak for themselves. It’s embarrassing that the film industry has allowed this garbage to go on for so long. They need to wake up, not woke up.
The problem is that the decent heterosexual people let themselves get shouted down by these prancing, disgusting squealing limp-wristers. Why, I do not know, it mus be some kind of media induced trance or some spell.
When you did the maths and worked out the average amount of people in the cinemas would have been 6, i nearly died laughing. The build up and delivery tickled me something chronic.
Man, and that's the AVERAGE, meaning that some bored projectionist was just probably smokin a j and jackin it for the runtime with absolutely nobody to ask him what is going on. I bet the cleaning staff were disappointed because they had nothing to do 😹 Like "Breh isn't there supposed to be a fine film of dried soda and a whole crust layer of popcorn crumbs?"
I’m a gay man. After seeing the trailer for Bros, I was never going to watch it. It was just further promoting all gay men do is party, have random hook ups, can’t be monogamous, all have 5% body fat, and travel around the globe. Even the love interest is unrelatable. He is like a 9/10 or 10/10. In comparison, I’m like a diseased troll with a doughy body. So I couldn’t even relate to the quality of men in the movie. Everything about the movie turned me off.
Isn't the guy who make this gay himself why would he portray gay people as a bunch of filthy degenerate I would expect something like this from those extreme religious group to do something like this. IS the guy making this just hate himself
"Do you guys remember straight people? Yeah, they had a nice run" ... So did the human species. Them thinking the world would be a better place if everyone acted abnormally is pretty laughable if not extremely sad.
And the Santa Clause thing drove me nuts too. They don't teach kids about Santa in school and why would they teach about a has been tennis pro from 40 years ago?
I'm not kidding, in the middle of this video an ad popped that said how a 20 year old gay man was found dead and was stabbed 42 times and told me to stop hate crimes against LGBT people lol
I'm gay and would never in a million years watch Bros. This movie is made by and made for the alphabet people who view the entire world through the lens of their sexuality and even they didn't go and see it in any great number.
Bi dude here and honestly, even the Birdcage, a movie all about a gay couple, one of whom being a drag queen, put sexuality practically on the backburner aside from when it was plot relevant, the climax being where Nathan is forced to decide if he wants to pretend to be a straight guy for appearances. And that shit starred Nathan Lane, one of the gayest dudes in Hollywood at the time. If they could do it right in the 90s, what is their excuse now?
@@viscountrainbows2857 I've watched dozens of gay rom-coms, although not so many recently - Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss, Trick, All Over the Guy, Eating Out, Jeffrey, Beautiful Thing, The Broken Hearts Club - and none of them were as overtly partisan and activist as this clearly is. You could possibly guess the politics of many of the characters in the aforementioned films, but you wouldn't necessarily know, particularly of the time. But this has ideology and partisanship at its core, and hits you over the head with it in a way that many LGB people despise and want nothing to do with.
Eichner: "I'M GAAAAAAAAY!" for 1 hour and 55 minutes. $22 million later, World: "We know, who cares?" (drops quarter in empty coffee cup while passing by on the sidewalk)
I only saw a single ad for this movie, when I was in the theatre for Elvis surrounded by the elderly. It was like 3 minutes of dead silence and the most awkward moment of my adult life
I'm so embarrassed on Eichner's behalf. There are a lot of films/shows starring LGB people (many of which are romance/relationship based) that have had actual impact (including Oscar recognition) in the past or are doing really well right now: Heartstopper, Sex Education, Brokeback Mountain, The Kids Are Alright, Milk, Call Me By Your Name, The Normal Heart, The Danish Girl, A Single Man, Carol, The Imitation Game, Pride, and that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. To blame your own lack of skills on an allegedly homophobic audience is embarrassing af at this point in time.
@@insertnamehere5809 Yes top gun was very closeted gay. I remember seeing that movie and thinking: _Why is this scene even here? I was promissed aircrafts shooting other aircrafts._
If sexual identity is so important for him, just make a gai porn with more or less plot. No one will argue or criticise, they could have even made some money. These people cannot articulate anything without mentioning their sexuality. So damn weird.
You're thinking like a normal person. Left-wing identitarianism can't be satisfied simply by living as they wish, doing their thing. It must be front and centre in everything, whether it's film or baking bread - all must be gay/black/whatever.
Yeah and they wonder why the "Conservatives"(aka people who don't feel like hypersexuality 24/7 is acceptable) call them degenerates and perverts. It's like, you LITERALLY, are making your whole personality, worldview, goals, about sex. Sex is fun and all with the right people at the right time, but when that is essentially your whole identity, and you make a whole movie about it, you rite; just make a pr0n and get it over with. Don't pretend this is some kind of great step for the LGBT; this is just a vanity project with cringe jokes that only would have maybe landed in the mid-2000s for a week or two a-lá Napoleon Dynamite
@@viscountrainbows2857 Worst part it's not even sex in the sense of an ultimate expression of love and togetherness, no it's litterally about weird, promiscuous kink sex that often is done more for hooking up and bragging rather than expressions of love...effectively what porn is.
Finding out that Billy basically made himself an echo chamber in the people involved makes SO much sense now. When I saw this film watching any scene where he’s spouting his theories and beliefs I was thinking “Wow, this guy is talking like ‘ this is the way it is and everyone agrees with me.’ “ probably because everyone around him agreed with him.
My parents went to go see this movie... for some reason. They wanted me to come but i flat out refused. When they got back, my dad said that I dodged a bullet. 😁😎
Not so fun fact. The guy who played Jar Jar Binks wanted to unalive himself because of the backlash to the character and shame and embarrassment he felt after. He climbed onto the BK Bridge one day before deciding not to go through with it. He seems like a really nice guy in real life and was an Off Broadway actor in the play Stomp when a casting director saw him in the play and gave him the chance of a lifetime to act in Star Wars. Just wanted to humanize the Jar Jar situation cause even though it was and is cringe, these are still human beings we're talking about
@@GoldenMushroom64People who aren't assholes and dont want to see someone die because everyone thinks a slightly abnoying, subpar character is the spawn of satan and insult the actor for daring to take a role in star wars.
The "do you remember straight people? LOL they had a nice run" was LITERALLY the line I saw in the trailer that cemented me not wanting to see it. Like I'm all for adults doing whatever they wanna do to be happy or whatever but there's no need to disparage straight people...
Straight people do this all the time by making gay people feel weird so I don't agree with the amount of butthurt this poor-taste joke got. But I still agree with your sentiment
@innitbruv-lascocimics9910 millions of gay people could care less I have rarely seen any straight people mock gay people for people gay I’ve seen assholes gah people for being gay Don’t lump straight people under one umbrella because of a couple asshoke Not every straight person does this
If it’s bad for rude people to do it DONT DO IT BACK. Find the hood people and don’t mock them. It’s equivalent of hating big companies and insulting a mom and pop store because there also selling
@@dimitriwarchief301 Don't lump gay people because of one asshole either. Egdy humor is meant to be enjoyed by all, if gay people can't take the piss outta straightness or straight people for laughs then you sir are no proprietor for edgy dark humor. Why are you even watching this video knowing the creator himself is a fan of this humor. Is it rules for thee but not for me? How hypocritical of people like you to take the high road in public but stoop low in private and pretend like WE don't notice. Misinterpreting my words to fulfill some denial fantasy in your head
"Do you remember straight people? Yeah... *scoffs* they had a good run." Meanwhile straight people: "Did you know that we're so powerful that we destroyed this entire movie without even noticing it?" Billy Eichner: "RHEEEEEEEEEEE... RHEEEEEEEEEEE... RHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."
Remember the 1996 film 'The Birdcage'? That was a very gay themed comedy movie that landed & performed well with straight audiences... because it didn't have an identity politics agenda. It was just a fun film about 2 gay men trying to act straight to impress their adopted sons fiance. Bro's appears to be charged with gay supremacist themes which are even expressed in the trailer. A film hating on & insulting people that make up 99% of the world's population and overimposing gay intimacy was never going to land. It's actually a miracle Warner execs signed off on the script! What on earth were they thinking??? I have a gay friend who saw it. He said & I quote: “it was a very embarrassing & nothing but *regressive* anti-straight propaganda" Not even gay people liked this movie.
I think Universal were testing the waters, Hollywood desperately want to make this kind of vomit a movie / TV staple, and this garbage was the canary in the coal mine.
It wasn't the fiancé they were trying to impress. She knew that they were a gay couple. They were trying to impress her *parents* who were not only conservative Republicans but the father was running for office. But yes, there were many many LGBT movies that handles themes far better than whatever Bros. was attempting to do. Which is depressingly hilarious because Bros. is a "modern" movie and movies like the Birdcage came out in 1996 at a time when being not only gay but out and proud was heavily frowned upon. It still put butts in seats.
I actually feel kind-of sorry for Billy Eichner. Imagine being completely convinced of your own genius because of your innate narcissism plus constant affirmation from various outside sources. Then you get this devastating reality feedback proving that not only are you NOT a beloved genius, but you're actually disliked by most people and incompetent at your job. No wonder he had a hard time processing his failure.
@@wegdhass5587 sadly people like him don't "wake up" they construct fantasies to inhale the copium so they don't ever have to admit that no one likes anything they put out because it's pure garbage and even your niche audience doesn't care
He's so deep into his delusion I wonder if it's even physically possible for him to accept the truth of the matter. And I mean the neurons responsible being completely absent from his brain. And I wouldn't be surprised if this was the result of grooming from a young age, considering how normal his "character" seems to think sex in front of children is.
Yeah shit think about it. Extremely high confidence based in cement (as far as Eichner is concerned) and then gets told he is actually the opposite and is literally a bad filmmaker. I have 2nd hand hurt
Funny you mentioned George Lucas: I think, even he recognized he went too far with how controlling he was with the prequels. Something Eichner has yet to even consider.
In the original trilogy, he was shopping for different directors because he didn't believe he could do it alone. Too bad he shopped for David Lynch, someone who would never give something like Star Wars the time of day. Thanks to Lynch, George got used to being the figurehead, when the reality is that he really benefitted from different voices. Too bad, Billy will never know the taste of success that comes from really working with people who have different perspectives.
More people should be picking up on that. We were shamed ten years ago for suggesting that they were faking being normal folks to get political decisions and here he basically says exactly that.
It also shoots the "no kids arent too young to learn gay history" line in the foot because gay history has just been established to be in fact, about being a slut.
@@matthewmosier8439male homophilia is advanced hypersexuality and female homophilia is advanced frigidity. Homophilia is retarded sexual development, because one is unable to love the 'other', often caused by sexual trauma.
Dont confuse being gay with being Billy Eichner. The vast majority of gay people just want to live normal lives where they fall in love like everyone else.
" those who cannot see friendship as substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration on ( romance) betray the fact that they have never had a friend" ... C.S. Lewis...
I think we’ve found another example of a love story that is not, in fact, a better love story than Twilight
Least that was bad good
😂
Imagine writing a worse love story than _Twilight_ 😂
@@the_absurd_hero"365 days" would like to have a word...
@@magicmoon6375*Laughs in the After franchise*
A moment of silence for that one straight couple who blindly went to see the movie, and was subjected to 2 hrs of mental torture.
Too bad they went to one of those theaters that locks you in til the end.
I cant even imagine the horror. I have trouble even watching this here. *shudder*
You can totally just walk out if a film sucks enough. I've walked out of a few lately so I don't lose that time forever
@@ericvulgate I'm not sure theaters like that allowed to exist. Are you just making this up or there are really theaters in the US what actually locks you in till the end? I can imagine. There is a lot of insane thing exist in the USA.
@@Zodroo_Tint it was sarcasm poking fun at the original comment saying the hypothetical straight couple was subjected to 2 hours of the movie when they could have just left the theater.
I wouldn't be surprised if Billy Eichner's resumé read as follows: "I'm gay."
There is absolutely no chance that the word "gay" doesn't appear atleast once.
Billy´s Wiki has "gay" 17 times, IMDB 7 times. If I searched various combinations of "lgbtqjhfd+-*/" the number would go up massively. You´re welcome :p
Reflection of myself.
Reflection of myself.
Reflection of myself.
I’m so tired of people asserting that if two men are close, they must’ve been gay. Men can have incredibly close friendships, they are called best friends.
I guess those people are unaware and/or ignorant about platonic love since the Ancient Greeks believed in four types of love which include Eros that is erotic love obviously, Philia which is the love of friends as well as equals, Storge the love of parents towards their children then finally Agape that's essentially just love of mankind as a whole aka unconditional love.
Don’t you know? If men have male friends they are obviously gay, if men have female friends they are obviously cheating on their girlfriend. So the only solution is to be friendless i guess.
They genuinely don't believe that. That's why there's this weird push to say any historical or even fictional figure who had any kind of friendship with a member of the same sex was gay.
These people have never had friends. Likely because they are simply too narcissistic.
@@georgeray1906 Actually they thought the ancient Greeks was a gay paradise
Imagine making a movie about your entire personality and flopping
And calling people phobes for not watching
People liked _The Birdcage_ and _Withnail and I_ back in the day. It's probably not the audience that's at fault.
Maybe we're all just Eichnerphobic
The Birdcage was brilliant and hilarious, even if I was technically too young to be watching it but... I loved Robin Williams and Nathan Lane, may the former R.I.P. but even that movie did well in addressing the struggle of being LGB, not including drag in the T, but the whole thing was handled so much more tastefully. Probably because Nathan Lane wouldn't settle for a trash production, as he was the BEST version of the Camp Gay archetype.
It doesn't help the movie's name and poster didn't scream romance when it looks something out of a porno ad.
I would say more, making an entire movie over a lack of personality
Bros has got to be one of the most mean-spirited movies ever made. If their goal was to make people homophobic, they succeeded pretty well at that.
I'm only 9 minutes in and yet I've seen almost every negative stereotype about the gay community. All that's missing is a rampant STD epidemic and hamster abuse.
As someone in middle school. This movie feels like it was made by teenagers whose only mind set was gay=funny.
I'm bisexual and I agree with you, this film was purposely made to breed homophobia, this film is nothing but disgusting hateful propaganda and anyone LGB person who enjoys it should be branded a traitor!
"If their goal was to make people homophobic"
That seems to have been the goal of the entire gay movement for at least the last decade.
I always saw homosexuality as a sexual preference. This director managed to make it political AND sound like a conglomerate of political extremists.
I’m a… elder millennial gay man. This movie is basically a representation of my worst nightmare come true. Growing up was difficult for me because i was constantly made fun of. I was quiet, sensitive… I didn’t really like “boy stuff” mainly because I didn’t relate. I knew I was different at a very young age but I was always scared to bring it up because it was frowned upon. One thing that always bothered me was when I came out, IMMEDIATELY everyone thought I was sexually promiscuous. Everyone assumed I was having butt sex…. I tried my whole young adult life to convince people that as a gay man, I was more than my sexual orientation. I’m an artist, I love being creative, and I love everything beautiful about this world. I love my family and friends.…. Everything was going so great around 2015 and I was starting to feel respected as a human being, and not just some gay guy…. I don’t know what’s going on today but current LGBTQ+ LMNOP123 non binary, gender-fluid…. What the FUCK! It’s overwhelming… just like this movie! I literally wanted to have a panic attack every single fucking minute of this movie. It was horrible!!! trust me. There’s a lot of us out there who don’t agree with a lot of this crap and we’re just watching everything we’ve worked for crumble down to the ground. This is a nightmare.
Bro, men can have deep and meaniful relationships with one another without being gay. I'm sure women can too, but gays have queered the pitch. Gay men look on real male to male relationships as straight men look at a relationship with women. And they aren't the same at all, and you wrecked that for us. To someone who only has a hammer everything looks like a nail. Straight people are not one dimensional.
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Well put. The vast majority of people have no problem with gays, only the pushing of transsexuality on minors has upset people, not transexuals per se. When people- mainly egomaniacs- talk as if they're the spokesperson for all gay people, they're taking liberties not with straight people, ONLY gay people. I think it's for gay people to discard every letter that comes after LGB in the ever growing alphabet of "Anything but Straight". Even being gay is seen as bigoted in a system where certainties can no longer exist.
Unfortunately its the loud ones that are heard the most. Its stupid to think that gay people are any more promiscuous than straight people, I mean we have shows like love island with a bunch of straight people being absolutely bonkers about s€x.
People are people and they shouldn’t form their personalities on just the fact they either want to f other people or don’t.
You aren't gay. You're a person with deviant sexual interests, which have either been spurred on by influences in your life or just purely spontaneously. Either way, it's up to you to choose whether or not you give into these things. Also pretty strange how gay people still have sex organs.... none of it makes any sense.
Fun fact: Martina Navratilova is a Bisexual Tennis LGB activist who opposes Trans Women Competing in Women sports.
The fact she was referenced in the Movie is Hilarious.
She's been excommunicated by the alphabet community 🌈
Martina Bigotilova then.
I was wondering by the way is she gonna give presents to the childrens if she will takes santa's place?
@@Zodroo_Tint nah, she just has a view you can't accept that it's her right to hold, you are the bigot, and a dense one at that.
The fact that Twitter people will call her TERF explains why this movie flopped.
Imagine your sexuality being EVERYTHING. and yet THE ONLY THING in your life.
..and then putting it ALL out there on the big screen, and then nobody even cares.
@@DSKekaha no that's the best part
I'm Gay, never made it a big part of my personality and never ever made it even a part of my personality. Everyone who makes that stuff his or her whole personality is a sad little Wiener who has nothing else of importance in life and will most likely never have it
I'm gay, and it isn't. And none of my hundreds of gay friends think that way either. This is a product of woke Hollywood, and nothing to do with gay men.
Worse yet. Every single line of this film sounds like it's a parody of the LGBTQ Communty(tm) from their mad obsession with sex to their sole tactic being rewriting existing things to be LGBTQ to never EVER STFU about LQBTQ. But it's entirely serious.
This movie's writing is more than just terrible. *_It's insulting,_* especially of the very demographic it's trying to pander to.
When an Adam Sandler comedy about two straight men pretending to be gay, makes for a more pleasing and endearing couple than the actual gay couple...
Keep it real! Adam Sandler sucks.
One came before the other in order to normalize perversion. It's called boiling the frog.
I remember that movie, I liked it
And it even had a great moment of an angry, fearsome man opening up and coming out.
I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.. he kinda got away with that one scott free 😂
"A romantic comedy so bad gay people didn't wanna watch it."
- Nerdrotic
I can back this up.
Can confirm, the annoying guy in my dorm David Conomos did not see it (this is an insult to him, he’s not gay)
Eichner can't blame the audience as there was no audience.
There was an audience, they clearly didn't give a shit.
Ouch.
*_Critical Hit!_*
If a movie shows in a theater and nobody is there to see it, does it truly exist? Hell I bet even the projectionist threw in the reel and turned around to go throw in his headphones to experience *anything* else.
@@viscountrainbows2857 Poor projectionist.
Watching this review exposed me to more clips from this movie than I ever wanted to see. I will forever begrudge you this Despot.
The key is to listen and not to watch.
I think we all feel that way.
@@manoz6194 I learned that too late. It burns us! It burns us!
@@manoz6194 Just listening to the movie's dialog is torture enough.
Lol yeah as much as i enjoy the Despot it took me 3 or 4 tries to listen to this one
I still can't understand how anyone could see this movie as anything other than insulting. It basically paints the LGBTQ community as a bunch of sex obsessed, not committal, narcists who can't go five minutes without talking about being Gay. It really does feel like a parody you'd see on South Park.
And family guy. I remember that Brian's cousin Jasper was a hated character for being so stereotyping and the Gay marriage episode was controversial. Same with Family Gay. Now these episodes are spreading everywhere but more obnoxious
I mean... It's not completely false.
Most of them are that way, and just because "I know A and most of them are not like that" does not mean the entire community is like the people you know.
@@Leonard_Wolf_2056 But we were told that these stereotypes are homophobic and gay people need "good" representation. Recently a trans male got attacked for his poly gay webtoon even though he's from Indonesia. And his comic is not as bad as Billy's Bros movie. At there's actually love in the comic.
A/n : Also Bros is also pushing the grooming angle which is really bad. It's already bad enough that it's encouraged.
Oh, please, Billy wishes he could be as great as Big Gay Al.
@@Leonard_Wolf_2056exactly , that's literally who they are, otherwise we wouldn't see all of these woke stuff supporting them this way
My cousin is gay and has been married to his gay husband for like 15 years now. I asked if they were gonna go see Bros. He said he and his husband had no interest in seeing a rom com. They said the great thing about being gay is they don't have to watch girly movies.
I think it's possible that men, even gay men, don't necessarily enjoy romantic comedies.
He should've made an action movie full of shirtless men. That'd probably get gay men in seats.
Exactly! Like claiming that if you are heterosexual, you *have* to like Tommy Wiseau's "The Room."
A romcom about 2 men has got to cater to the smallest niche in cinema; men aren't known for liking romcoms (and being gay doesn't automatically switch your other preferences), straight women wouldn't be able to drag their partner to it, and lesbians wouldn't be interested. It was going to struggle even if it wasn't godawful.
@@CarrionCrow993 agreed. This film had quite possibly the smallest target audience in the history of mainstream cinema releases, and it had a larger budget than Godzilla Minus One - without even adjusting for inflation. This whole concept should never have been more than a quirky theatre play.
When did he find out that his husband was gay?
“Half the children in Brian’s class are non-binary!” That’s got to be the most horrible movie quote of all time.
Because trans is the new emo, a fad & nothing more.
But it also says so much as far as it being a fad and a social contagion.
@@TagSpamCopremember when girls in school all claimed to be “bi” and would occasionally give each other a peck on the lips? B/c they thought the guy students were that into lesbians. That’s what’s happening now
If the kids are non binary the teacher is a groomer.
@@TagSpamCop teens have always been seeking attention, now throw in gender confusion that gets nearly nothing but praise and the cancer that is social media you start to see the real problem. It's ALL planned social contagion and nothing more, teen brains aren't fully developed but these nuts are completely a-okay with allowing them to make permanent life decisions without telling them the negatives of what they're signing up for
"Hey, let's make a movie about gay people being gay. Except, let's make it the most insufferable movie of all time, then call everyone homophobic if they don't like it." - Bros 2022.
This was 2 years ago? Time is flying.
When I first saw a promo for this, I was astounded at the lack of understanding of the core audience for rom-coms: straight women. If this movie wanted *any* chance of succeeding, the lead actor needed to *look* like a leading actor (i.e. he needed to be attractive), he needed to have a straight female best friend who was trying to help him sort out his disastrous love life, and not have lines like, "I want you to f^ck me," malign parents, or act like half of a kindergarten class identifying as non-binary is funny, rather than horrifying.
Basically, look at what made Will & Grace work and then do that with a splash more romance.
Eichner seems to believe that gay men are nothing more than straight women in the wrong bodies
You're wrong in how you're right:
This is tailor made for MODERN straight women, who act very masculine.
From that angle, it makes all the sense.
@@RobertMorgan no, even the current wave of gender-studies majors who proudly display their unshaved armpits are not going to spend money to watch a 3 sucking face with a 6. It reminds them too much of their miserable dating experiences seeing unattractive people making out.
@@RobertMorgan No, even they don't like this shit.
@@RobertMorgan Wanna know a secret my dude? Modern women may act tough and masculine and stuff, but they still love girly things and always, ALWAYS have a crush on The Badass Chad, not The Pathetic Soyboy. (I've seen feminists have a crush on handsome right-wing essayists and it's always very funny how conflicted they are about it.)
I’m gay and this movie makes me understand why people are homophobic
I don't understand how this movie was shown in as many theaters as it was; did they not see the trailer?, or were they not given a choice?
@@chcarroll5164I remember seeing trailers for this, and was immediately turned off by it.
I'm glad I waited until it was out on a streaming platform that I had so I didn't have to pay for it. It felt way too preachy. I watched it for the hot boyfriend.
"I don't fear the gay, they fear me" -Sun Tzu
Even if it was good it was going to bomb. The problem with a very gay centric film is that it simply doesn’t have a large enough potential audience to produce $140 million + that this movie needed to break even. The straight audience is just that much larger. That said, if I heard this film was good, I might watch it on streaming, but I’m not paying $15 to see it in a theater when I don’t know anyone else that wants to see it in a theater either.
It’s just simple financial reality.
"All these other people were wrong!" - No Billy, they were not. Your movie bombed! Your father was right, "these people" were 100% correct!
Ironic, he was so looking forward to being right
The real bottom line about this flick to me is that it's not funny. It's mean spirited & bitchy, but no laughs.
"You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring realty."
seems like the perfect quote for Eichner's mindset when making this movie.
How massive the self-created bubble of yes-men is doesn't matter, what matters is how many people want to see the movie and what the audience thinks of it.
Wrong,if the bubble of yes-men was big enough it would've made the movie a success.
The issue is convincing 30 million people to join your cult.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 I mean they've convinced half the population, if not more, since the early 1900s.
This part of the cult is a bit deeper though, and most wheren't ready.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 NOTHING could have been done to make that travesty a "success." Let be REAL here.
That's all Hollywood *IS*; step outside the echo chamber and your career gets memory-holed.
To be honest, the movie even attacked gays themselves, as if being gay but not their kind of gay were wrong...
Yea, I remember that Bobby doesn't want to have a gay wedding scene in the museum because he says "we're not promoting heteronormativity" or something like that. Also the guy dislikes how his lover (Aaron) likes country music, as if gays can't love any music that's not Mariah Carey...
@@nostoevskylook I’m a gay man and I HATED this movie. It made us look soooooo bad. I had low expectations going into it when he kept saying the first movie in history this and the first movie in history that just turned me off from it. Dude literally put every single gay issue into a two hour slog fest. And billy is obviously that one gay guy who loves making straight people uncomfortable and other gay people who aren’t like him feel bad. Bro has some growing up to do.
Yup, they do the same thing with other groups as well. Look at Joe Biden saying "if you're black and you vote for Trump, well, you're not black!" As if black folk's heritage is on loan from the Democrat party and can be revoked at any time if you're not doing as you're told. Keep in mind that this is the same party that brought us slavery, the KKK, segregation, Jim Crow laws and on and on.
@@perryjones7771what's funny is he thinks he makes straight people uncomfortable and he's edgy and all that, but really we just look at him like a sad little boy who rides the short bus.
@@brandocalrissian3294 THIS!!!!!
I'm bi and I'm honestly sick of this self congratulatory attitude many people in the lgbt community put forth. Being gay or lesbian or whatever is not interesting, it's not a personality, it's a sexual preference. People making into their entire identity are usually very shallow and uninteresting people, which is why this movie sucked and nobody saw it
Outing Lauren Chen for elderly abuse on grounds of her making her father watch Bros is priceless.
"Is my daughter upset with me for some reason?"
I noticed a pretty bad pattern of how studios and corporations seem supportive for the LGBT community only for it to be a false illusion to gain money from them because it's trendy, Disney, Activision-Blizzard and even Target proved that and are all speedrunning into the ground while the community is facing a very bad problem of it's own.
Bud Light too
Company called Black Rock is to blame for ESG scores for company's.
@@crazychase98 is every company a slave to Black Rock or something?
@@playedit0ut290 if you want to be a bit conspiratorial, every company and government is a slave to blackrock
@@playedit0ut290Look up videos talking about Black Rock.
That Company practically owns them with the amount of Influence they have
Dont ever stop bringing "reflection of myself" guy back, he's pure gold
He did well in this video.
I remember seeing Bo Jackson (An African American Running Back for the then LA Raiders 🩶🖤) being the main character in TECHMO BOWL 🏈.
And that was around at the same time at Mike Tyson's PUNCH OUT 🥊
In many ways, they admitted that the movie was more or less a self aggrandizment project. That guy admits that this piece of "art" was a "reflection of myself." In other words, it's a self-portrait. Whenever someone makes a self-portrait, they generally try to make themselves look as good as possible. Apparently "as good as possible" for these artistic geniuses was a mean-spirited and narrasistic film about just how great they are and how much everyone wishes they were them, without a shred of self-awareness.
@@insertnamehere5809Can't forget about Little Mac's coach on the bike too. OG.
If anyone who plays video games can't find a "reflection of themselves" in the thousands upon thousands of video games that have been released over the last 50 years, and is resulting upset about it, then they are not a gamer; they're just some narcissistic ponce that doesn't know that Google results go past the first page.
The fact that this movie pissed off both the left and the right is very impressive.
If nothing else, that scene where they are all sitting at the table whining about various stuff perfectly encapsulates them as a people. Miserable, always wanting more, always bickering, always correcting each other, talking over top of each other, screaming for no reason, throwing around buzzwords like they were conjunctions, worried about representation... and, of course, being as unfunny and unlikeable as humanly possible.
I was thinking the very same thing and that there's often more infighting within the communities instead of doing anything good.
Don't underestimate how much actual real-world gay people despise these stereotypes and tropes. I'm gay and this looks like a freaking clown show of losers and idiots playing every gross stereotype and cliche completely - for lack of a better term, and excuse the pun - straight.
With all the shoving of gender identity ideology down kid's throats, this was absolutely the last kind of movie I would want to have anything to do with. Completely tonedeaf.
Luke Macfarlane is actually a good actor, and this film was obviously wasted on him.
@Brenden_Marshallas a straight guy, all I have to say is: 🧐
@Brenden_Marshall didn't want to assume you were, because I'd be "disrespectful and making an ass of myself"
Sooooo....
Like twitter?
Note "The Whale" was about a gay character, but done right. The majority of gay people can live their daily lives without flaunting their gayness. They live the same lives as straight people, but like men. How many opportunities do the majority of us discuss our sex lives with friends and co-workers? Either not at all or very rated G.
Great point. I wasn't even thinking about that when I included it in the video, because the Whale's sexuality isn't made a big deal of in the movie; in Bros, it is the movie.
What's funny is that WOMEN do that more than men. Men might go as far as "I tapped that" or "She's wild in bed" but that's really it. It's women, especially like nurses and such, who will have conversations about how pulled a guy into the bathroom to suck him off. Weird how straight men, the supposedly sexual predators, are the ones who are like "I don't really need to be part of this conversation."
@@BWMagus man, that reminds me of girls i knew when i was going to middle school. whenever they started talking me and my friends would just quietly sneak away as all they would talk about was sex and dudes. honestly i never met more stupid and empty people than that group of women
Press X to Doubt
@UltimateThanos the normal people don’t care only elites would
And no one likes them
I watched Bros, I loved it, then realized I watched super Mario Bros.
You had me there for a sec! Good one.
You had me in the first half NGL
Same
You had me at first and I was like…what?
Say what you will about the movie itself but Bob Hoskins was pretty good as Mario
I’m gay myself and literally couldn’t get through the first scene. Wtf were they thinking with this?
They weren't thinking at all. This is simply the few radical on your side.
Just like my religion (Christianity) had and still have people hunting down others and raping kids in the name of god. Your side have the few bad apples that just don't wanna accept that people can live their lives privately.
Anyone with a brain can tell that these sorta people are few and far between, and that this is simply what happens to certain people when they reach some sort of power.
This whole movie felt like a parody trying to portray gay people as the most sexually promiscuous, non-committal, and annoyingly insistent people in the world. It's no wonder that both sides of the aisle hated this movie.
Same here. I saw the trailer and it was so bad I had zero interest in seeing the film.
I'm not gay myself and I literally couldn't even get through the first scene.
1/10
Came out straighter than I went in.
"That's actually the best time to teach them, when they're young, you know, that way they develop an appreciation for queer people..."
Right there. That line right there hits a bit different now, doesn't it?
Bro say less. I did a double take.
Saying the quiet part out loud.
saying that they want to introduce gay people as 'part of life' so that people feel compelled to be gay to fit in or whatnot...it's a combination of social engineering and societal grooming, only their cause is so stupid that it doesn't feel like a big deal even though it really is.
Billy just straight up admiting that grooming children is the goal
"ThE sLiPpErY sLoPe Is A fAlLaCy!!!"
"I snuck into a sold-out theater with everyone laughing nonstop" yeah, that didn't happen.
Totally true, but he was drunk and didn't realize it was a showing of Jackass Forever.
That lie was so pathetic and obvious, even for the twitter weirdos...
He snuck into the premiere.
if it was true it was have been one he bought for and had his yes men/women watch and laugh at it
It was LA, so I believe it. I also believe it was forced laughter, even after he purposely stacked the deck.
It's funny, they tried so hard to make the gay characters seem normal but they made them out to be offensive caricatures with their sexuality being their defining trait.
But remember guys, _we're_ the assholes.
yep. straight people dont wanna go see movie because its preachy and gay people dont wanna see movie because everyone is a harmful stereotype.
but hey, its obviously the audiences fault that it flops.
@@KossolaxtheForesworn It must be really nice to live like those rich idiots. Never owning a mirror so you never see the source of your problems.
It's like the old saying: "If you smell shit everywhere you go, you better check your shoes."
Self-caricatures - that's right! Like the movie is done by homophobics :-)
To be frank, it’s not _that far from the truth._
@@Jerrycourtneyare you stupid
"Thats actualy the best time to teach them, when theyre young"
How tasteful
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ BuT tHeRe NoT gRoOmInG!~1!1!! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wait, so he made a movie ABOUT gay people DOING gay activities and after realizing that straight people do not come to see the movie, he complained? What?
We’re supposed to find gay people interesting and watch what they do because we admire them or some such nonsense.
I’d watch a movie featuring an interesting, well developed character from an appealing movie that just happens to be gay, but this is literally just made for gay dudes and even most of them hated it.
If this was a movie about a gay guy doing John Wick stuff nobody would really have a problem. But it's a movie about a guy guy being gay and complaining about how hard being gay is which just isn't interesting.
@@kiplingwasafurry1108 Spartacus blood and sand! AKA how to implement gay guys into straight world without being alienating towards heteros
@@ShadowRulah Agreed. An action flick with a badass protagonist who just happen to be gay would've been far more successful. Hell, they can even make him as flamboyant as they want, as long as they're written well enough. Venture Bros already proved it can be done with Shore Leave and Colonel Gentleman.
You cant make it up. Billy REALLY used the "and everybody laughed and applauded at the end" 😭. It's legit the oldest damn trick to the point that it seems like a parody 💀
Even in the context of this review, these scenes are absolutely painful to watch
If a straight man had to take a shot every time they'd have to yell "PAUSE" at every single homoerotic interaction or modern LGBTQIACDCHVACXYZ reference, they're dead of alcohol poisoning by the middle of act 2.
They are 1.5x as disgusting as maggots.
I caught the trailer here on UA-cam and had to watch THAT in sections!
I'm bisexual and honestly I'd sooner hang around homophobes than my own kind, I accept you homophobes! you have every right to hate us, I hate us too
It’s utterly disgusting, it’s immoral and wrong and I am not violent but gees
imagine actually thinking that a kid is gonna know if they're gay or not when they haven't even hit puberty yet. when I was 7-8, I wanted to be an owl so I could join the Guardians of Ga'Hoole.
I knew I had crushes on guys at 7.
You so eloquently break down why the movie industry’s narcissistic bubble has led them to ruin. Bros is not an exception, just a shining example among the disasters that comprises Hollywood today.
sadly true...
Respect for the 40k+ french soldier that gave their lives that allow (among other things) english soldier can escape through Dunkirk.
The persistence of the myth of French cowardice in 1940 is maddening. They fought fiercely and bravely.
WTF has that got to do with a gay film?
@@BENTLEYQUAMPThe defeat of Germany set us down the road of Bolshevik degeneracy.
@@kenstrumpf909agreed. The systematic ineptitude was not indicative of the whole nation. If you are unprepared for a war, surrender is not cowardly. The French Resistance were as brave or more so than the average WW2 soldier
@@BENTLEYQUAMP the video references the German conquest of France in 1940.
What is ironic about the "Jar Jar Binks" effect, is that Lucas had already run into the same issue with the Ewoks. It could have just as easily been called the "Ewok Effect."
Ewoks were George Lucas's self insert character....🤔🤫🤭
The Ewoks actually compromised a story thread that started in Empire with Chewie rescuing C-3PO and carrying the droid on his back for safety. Though technically it starts in Chapter 4 with Chewie not tearing C-3PO's arm off after losing at chess, but I digress. Anyway, the Ewoks were supposed to be Wookies, but they cut their costuming budget literally in half and had built in toys for Kenner to sell by adding them.
Chewie was supposed to return home, essentially bringing God with him, and would be eternally revered by his clan. A huge life-changing aspect of the character shaved off for budget and marketing purposes.
@@roringusanda2837How so? The only resemblance is the Wookie fur color
@@marcusblackwell2372 🙄it's a joke about how George Lucas resembles a short fat hairy ewoks...
Difference is that George Lucas knew how to implement it into the story without sabotaging Episode 6. Jar Jar Binks effect is when creator is so popular, that no one questions him, and that not questioning leads to disaster.
I remember when I saw ads for this movie. I knew immediately that it was going to be a failure but I had absolutely no idea how much of a disastrous failure it truly was
I didn't know it did that - well. That over a million people saw it leaves a portion who aren't cynical UA-cam reviewers needing content.
It is not an audience's responsibility to "show up" or "support" your film. It is YOUR responsibility as a film maker to make films that an audience actually wants to see and is willing to plunk down their cold, hard cash for. Hollywood has a ton of waking up to do.
I love how called Martina Navratilova a Lesbian even though she's a self Identified Bisexual.
And they Bisexual Erasure isn't real.
And now, she's been excommunicated by the alphabet Mafia 🌈 for wanting to keep out men in women's sports.
Just jealous a bisexual person if they so choose (or if necessary) choose to be in a heterosexual relationship. Even though bisexuals tend to prefer one sex heavily over the other.
Is it time to stop treating this as if it's a lie and just admit the truth?
'gay sex in front of kids' 'teach 7 year olds about sex' 'it's not that young' 'I was shown gay things as a child and am fine'
Because this feels like an accidental mask off moment for William here.
You forgot "we're talking about gay kids here"
Yeah I noticed that - they so often end up telling on themselves.
The P has really wormed their way into the Rainbow Mafia, haven't they?
And I'm not talking about so-called Pansexuals.
This is disgusting, would still be disgusting if it was about straight sexual content and there are many gays trying to distance themselves of people who think like this groomer. Yet we can't ignore that this really exists and is a threat to our children. Not the gay people, the groomers.
Teaching kids regarding this topic should NEVER involve sex…imagine asking your dad/mom how you were born and they explain process of sex to you at 7 years old…that’s gonna cause damages to you…
Never confuse a niche audience with the general audience when it comes to funding a film.
I'm gay and I can say mouthful that "Bros" is a humongous pile of crap, filled out with stereotypes, cliches, and unnecessary drama. A very small % of us live our lives being gay 24/7. The vast majority of us live normal, regular lives, have standard jobs, and deal with daily stuff like everyone else. This is why most of us had a really hard time identifying and sympathizing with this shit. No one lives "as gay" every single second of the day, being gay is just part of who I am, but it is not who I am as a whole.
If you're only homosexual, you need a job and a hobby, if you're writing a gay character for the love of god do not define them only by their sexuality.
There's nothing wrong with being homosexual, just don't define your life by it.
You are obviously homophobic...
I would assume it’s the equivalent to those frat boy stereotypes of straight men who only think about “boobs” and are creepy with women.
Yep. Most gay people don't see their sexuality as both a personality and an accomplishment that'd make Alexander the Great envious.
only a small percentage of us is like you
rest is just like in the movie
Bill Eichner did zero market research for the male-male romance genre market. He got his target demographics all wrong. For starters the romance genre is mostly consumed by women. The male-male genre in particular brings in straight women. Where did Bros appeal to straight chicks? Nowhere. He made it clear it is a movie purely for gay men. Straight women do not care about the LGBT museum or any of the commentary about the gay community. If anything a lot of the comments like introducing children to gay stuff is a massive turn off for most women. He needed to keep the social commentary out and the issues that were dealt with needed to be more universal in nature. Even most gays don't like the overly woke preaching. They want to actually enjoy the movie and not be preached at. The general formula for a successful gay flick is take a straight drama and replace the chick with a dude. That is all. Don't try to change anything else. Also final note: Don't make main lead look like a beta loser. He needs to look either cool or cute.
It's amazing how this movie even repulsed WOMEN, the sole demographic pushing the romance genre to the most successful genre in media.
Straight women have a big interest in gay movies, proven by call me by your name, heartstoppers, royal blue, call me by your name and countless anime. But you have to do it the right way.
Lots of LGBTQ people like Billy hate that women in general enjoy this content, and theyve managed to convince their ally minions to villify this demographic and reduce them to fetishizers. they just find it gross and would rather burn these women at the stake than admit that they need their cis hetero money to keep their content going.
@@6Kubikcall me by your name had yearning and build up and beauty. Bros had constant whining and ugly characterisation.
Anybody remember "Will & Grace"? The main male protagonists were gay as gay can be. And the series was a wild success. Because it was mercyless funny and witty.
Uh, okay pal, let's watch the hyperbole--it wasn't really funny.
I hated its Cliche characters and a camp queen that would get angry when any body asked if he was gay..
Because Will and Jack had personality, ambitions, and character outside of their sexuality. THAT is how you write gay characters.
That show was ass
The movie filled with characters that their only personality traits is being gay, instant toxic boredom.
watching the scenes of the men admitting to want to indoctrinate children really shows that the music video from a couple years back was really true.
"the music video from a couple years back was really true" - Huh? What music video?
Oh yes, very vague.
@@LIBERTYSINCURSION think he means the one where a gay singing group were "satirically" singing that they were indeed coming for your children to turn them gay. And they quickly took the video down when everyone was like 'oh wow, you said the quiet part loud'
And the cherry on top was at least one of the members of the group was a convicted child predator.
@@Gorbag01 Ithey did not sing " to make them gay " - they sung " to make them tolerant" - big difference.
@@Gorbag01nice try you lying homophobic sack of shit
Eichner's character Bobby is essentially a toxic narcissist. There's a scene where Bobby has an argument outside with his love interest Aaron, and he just rips his heart out in front of a bystander and leaves him there crying in the dark. It's unbelievable. Having a main character that is flawed is one thing, but for him to be cruel to someone he 'loves' makes him completely unlikeable and not interesting. It's too bad, because there was the potential to tell a new kind of gay love story with Bros, that could have been interesting and funny.
See, I actually disagree. This was never going to be a good movie because it came from the mind of Billy Eichner. They clearly gave him full reign. If he wanted to make a different movie he would have.
Like you I wanted to like this movie & was very disappointed that it was so poorly conceived & written, but i don't think it was salvageable.
@@jewdeayeah, dude just seems like a really nasty person in real life.
@@brandocalrissian3294 It's not that much of a surprise to anyone who watched even bits of the last season of "Parks & recreation".
I'm glad the "reflection of myself" guy is getting called out. I remember watching that special. For the most part it was a lot of fun with lots of nostalgia, the few moments he was featured were really difficult to watch. The "Existing in public spaces" language he used was right out of a gender studies lecture. It would have been sad were it not so annoying. But hey, it was Netflix.
Good work as always, Despot.
What was the special even about?
@@TaoScribble It was a special about self absorbed c-nts who lack the empathy necessary for them to relate to people and characters who look different from themselves, despite having shared interests, goals, abilities and so on. Calling it a "special" is being far too generous, but calling it a "normal" or a "heard it all before and didn't give a f-ck the first 500 times" doesn't generate as much interest.
On a more positive note: I can't wait to see this guy as the next Cleopatra.
I’m hoping the ‘skin-tellectual’ (as the Despot called him) who said ‘it’s sexist, and it’s xenophobic’ from Netflix’s Cleopatra starts making more appearances. That guy has serious potential just like ‘Mr Reflection’ if not more so.
@@TaoScribble It was called High Score. Documentary on the history of video games. It had some really good parts until that guy appeared. He's even more cringe than you think. He was part of some memorable titles, but you could tell they interviewed the guy specifically because of his place on the intersectional hierarchy (black AND gay). otherwise he was just another programmer.
I absolutely despised that guy. Using a fun show about old video games as a platform to push the messages of his detestable cult.
Billy Eichner: "I love this movie so much!"
What he really meant: "I love myself so much!"
Good thing HE does. Hope that narcissism gets him through the rest of his lonely, miserable life.
Edit: I was going to say, "Failing that, he should get a cat and call it good." But that would be a bad idea, as the first time he passed by a mirror he'd forget it existed and it would starve to death. 🤷♂️
The thing i find the most disgusting about this movie is Billy just straight up admiting in the movie that grooming children is the goal of the movement. Also, he can fuck right off for that line saying that Jesus was gay.
Argeed fuvk that shit
As someone who is a Christian, I am sick and tired of this community saying that. Such blasphemy!
@@siyabongabhebhe7403🔥🔥🔥🏳️🌈🔥🔥🔥
They need to leave Jesus alone. He would already support gay people as he was, they dont need to make up shit to support their cause.
@@siyabongabhebhe7403 in my country the last degenerates who made a blasphemy like that got their studio burned down by a molotov
Pretty sure if Eichner came by and saw someone being molested, he would say it is the molested ones fault for not being able to enjoy it.
He does look like a nonce
He's clearly a nonce
Or try keep trying he will develop a taste for it! And if not he’s just a homophobe
nah it's better to teach them when they're young - Billy Eichner
Imma molest Eichner to see if that's true when applied to himself too.
That mash up of clips was literal torture. Anyone who found any part of that movie entertaining is a psychopath
I found some of the clips of the meeting mildly amusing, when taken out of context of the movie and assuming it’s a movie designed to mock the alphabet mafia.
Nonsense, they should be played on repeat…
… in an interrogation room.
Narcissism the movie.
It was utterly disgusting, I would rather watch actual violence, than 2 men together, and I abhor violence
I actually called this. On a Reddit thread I said that this movie was going to fail and it would be blamed on homophobia. I was promptly permanently banned from that sub.
What was the thread called?
I don't remember, it was so long ago.
It always amazes me when people like this pretend "heteronormativity" is a problem. It's not. It's how we all get here. Like it or not, being straight is normal and there's nothing wrong with that.
Heteronormativity is not a word. That's Marxist new-speak.
And there’s nothing you can do to change that
Without the Straight he whould never ever be exit till this day
I'm gay and I completely agree. Most of my gay friends do too --- being straight _is_ normal, and "heteronormativity" is basically just a description of reality. I mean, don't go out of your way to _erase_ us or whatever, but I hate forced representation in TV and cinema. Like, no, not every story has to include a gay character. When it suits the story, or adds texture to a character or whatever? Then sure! But people getting bent out of shape because they don't "feel" "represented" enough is so much delicate-snowflakism I can't stomach it.
@@eunomiac I'm gay and same. If it weren't for hEtErOnOrMaTiViTy I wouldn't have been born, nor would anyone reading this comment right now. So if you think it's a problem, you really don't appreciate your life.
As a bisexual myself, this movie literally makes us look so bad and it’s really annoying
I know right? :(
this movie gave the same impact BET gave to the public about black culture. Worst tropes on display, nothing neutral or productive
No such thing as being bisexual.
@@anonymousonyx7755 Maybe don't be bisexual.
I'm bisexual too and i know right ? This is just awful, even Birdcage from 1996 and Hirschfeld's "Different From Others" (1919) did a better job on lgbt representation. Even Fallout New Vegas from 2010 did a better job
They really missed a great opportunity. They could of shown the struggle of a middle aged gay man who wants to find a serious partner to share the rest of his life with and finally settle down. Unfortunately, all he can find is hyper sexual younger gay men that are only interested in hook up culture and one night stands. So now he is in a panic that he will grow old and die alone, especially when his physical attractiveness diminishes.
Every single gay friend my age is going through this same exact struggle in their lives, and I think it would have been a great way to address a real world problem.
Would actually be a interesting movie not gonna lie
That's really no different than any other person who worries about that though. And it's not as if being gay is a handicap either. The story has been done to death. It's boring when it's specifically about what is now been pushed to the absurdity it us now - KINK & pedophiles on display & drag/tranzing being forced onto kids as a normal gay thing to "progress" into.
You wrote a better movie in a comment section. How is no one else in the industry creative enough to do that? And that idea has universal appeal because a lot of middle aged people have had similar experiences with trying to reconnect with people after the death of a loved one or a divorce. They don't want to engage with hookup culture at that age. That would have helped the movie make money.
>>They could of shown the struggle
I'm sorry that's even more worse of a cliche
This movie was doomed the minute it had Billy Eichner involved as star and writer. Billy was by no means a draw nor was he particularly well liked or respected. It just makes no sense. The fact that the film mocks Schitts Creek is a riot because Dan Levy would have made a more endearing lead and probably would have written a better script.
Interesting how this movie just outwardly admits to supporting child grooming, thats just fantastic wowee
It was disgusting hearing him say it’s best to teach them young like no it’s definitely not best to do that
@@ralphwiggum1982 Well it's best for HIM to teach them young. Besides he was exposed to gay sex when he was a little kid and "he turned out fine". Fine as in a gay man, so obsessed with gay sex everything in his life revolves around it. From his gay job, his gay friends, his gay dream of making a gay movie about a promiscuous gay man with, wait for it, a cast and crew that are all 100% gay. What's the big deal?
10 minutes in, and I’m averting my eyes. If my husband had taken me to see this when we were dating…I think we’d have both fled together, or I’d be leaving that theater single. I have gay friends/family; it’s fine, whatever. I don’t need to see it just like they don’t need to see what I’m doing in my bedroom. There’s something to be said for privacy and respect that’s totally lacking in today’s culture.
I couldn’t even make myself watch Brokeback Mountain. I love the main characters, but as soon as I heard about the direction the film takes, I was like HARD PASS.
"I don’t need to see it just like they don’t need to see what I’m doing in my bedroom" - that's probably the best summary of everything related to LGBTQ+ I've ever seen on the internet :)
Yeah you're so tolerant 🙄 okay homophobic bitch
Honestly, that goes for straight stuff too.
There's nothing like having to sit awkwardly in a full cinema theatre waiting out a gratuitous sex scene that adds nothing to the plot/characters and is only there to tick a box.
@@RuailleBuaille I was about to say this 😂 people call me a prude for it, but it honestly gets annoying after a certain point, but I just skip the scenes
The only good part is bringing to light the term transphobic. They’ve rendered it useless. Calling people who didn’t like his movie transphobic is just golden.
Do you mean homophobic? Because I've never heard anyone say if you don't like this movie you're transphobic they just say you're homophobic.
@@R-Lee- Neither of those things are "phobic", so I guess they could be considered to be somewhat interchangable in the way that they get used for gaslighting.
Moonlight had allegories, metaphors and deep perspective of what is is like to be gay in an extremely rude (thug) environment.
Bros is just vulgar. It's like some of these people can't create anything artistic or thoughtful without being vulgar. Take a look at their parades.
No Billy children don’t need to learn about anything gay history when they are still learning to add and subtract. The parents will decide that thank you very much.
Hes disgusting 🫣
Kids can barely pick a favorite color, what to eat for dinner, what cartoon they want to watch for movie night, nir do things like own a firearm, drive, drink, or use drugs stronger than Nyquil under parental supervision, etc.
But apparently they're mature enough to know their sexual orientation and gender🤪 Leave em alone; maybe when they are smart enough to identify Japan on a map before we teach them about buttplugs, we'll be making progress back toward our perfectly awful as it was education system.
Im gay and yeah - 7 is way too young. however I do think by the 5th/6th grade kids could use a class on bullying and differences. I think a big problem with my community is the way bullying in childhood can have life long consequences for us.
@@viciouzvalentine4993 im sorry but lecturing kids on not bullying wont stop bullying. Bullys will always exist.
@SCP-Dr_Bright sure but if there's a way to decrease ignorance towards groups of people, I'm all for it
We may live in a world where the vast majority of people are afraid to speak up when they disagree but at least the results speak for themselves. It’s embarrassing that the film industry has allowed this garbage to go on for so long. They need to wake up, not woke up.
The problem is that the decent heterosexual people let themselves get shouted down by these prancing, disgusting squealing limp-wristers. Why, I do not know, it mus be some kind of media induced trance or some spell.
When you did the maths and worked out the average amount of people in the cinemas would have been 6, i nearly died laughing. The build up and delivery tickled me something chronic.
Man, and that's the AVERAGE, meaning that some bored projectionist was just probably smokin a j and jackin it for the runtime with absolutely nobody to ask him what is going on. I bet the cleaning staff were disappointed because they had nothing to do 😹 Like "Breh isn't there supposed to be a fine film of dried soda and a whole crust layer of popcorn crumbs?"
I’m a gay man. After seeing the trailer for Bros, I was never going to watch it. It was just further promoting all gay men do is party, have random hook ups, can’t be monogamous, all have 5% body fat, and travel around the globe. Even the love interest is unrelatable. He is like a 9/10 or 10/10. In comparison, I’m like a diseased troll with a doughy body. So I couldn’t even relate to the quality of men in the movie. Everything about the movie turned me off.
Isn't the guy who make this gay himself why would he portray gay people as a bunch of filthy degenerate I would expect something like this from those extreme religious group to do something like this. IS the guy making this just hate himself
"Do you guys remember straight people? Yeah, they had a nice run" ... So did the human species. Them thinking the world would be a better place if everyone acted abnormally is pretty laughable if not extremely sad.
'everyone belongs to everyone else'
@@ericvulgate oh, what a Brave New World, that has such people in it...
The time of heteros is over! Let us repopulate the world with gheys!
Eddie Murphy doing Jackie Gleason voice: "Now when I bend over, start fkn"
And the Santa Clause thing drove me nuts too. They don't teach kids about Santa in school and why would they teach about a has been tennis pro from 40 years ago?
Test tube babies when?
Babe wake up new Despot video just dropped
I'm not kidding, in the middle of this video an ad popped that said how a 20 year old gay man was found dead and was stabbed 42 times and told me to stop hate crimes against LGBT people lol
I'm gay and would never in a million years watch Bros. This movie is made by and made for the alphabet people who view the entire world through the lens of their sexuality and even they didn't go and see it in any great number.
yeah literally!
Bi dude here and honestly, even the Birdcage, a movie all about a gay couple, one of whom being a drag queen, put sexuality practically on the backburner aside from when it was plot relevant, the climax being where Nathan is forced to decide if he wants to pretend to be a straight guy for appearances. And that shit starred Nathan Lane, one of the gayest dudes in Hollywood at the time. If they could do it right in the 90s, what is their excuse now?
Well how in the hell is a gay movie supposed to be made uh? 🤔
Same. It's for people who "identify" as things, rather than simply are things and get on with their lives.
@@viscountrainbows2857 I've watched dozens of gay rom-coms, although not so many recently - Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss, Trick, All Over the Guy, Eating Out, Jeffrey, Beautiful Thing, The Broken Hearts Club - and none of them were as overtly partisan and activist as this clearly is. You could possibly guess the politics of many of the characters in the aforementioned films, but you wouldn't necessarily know, particularly of the time. But this has ideology and partisanship at its core, and hits you over the head with it in a way that many LGB people despise and want nothing to do with.
Eichner: "I'M GAAAAAAAAY!" for 1 hour and 55 minutes. $22 million later,
World: "We know, who cares?" (drops quarter in empty coffee cup while passing by on the sidewalk)
They spent that much on marketing and this is literally the first time I've ever heard of this movie
To be fair, $40M is almost the same as no marketing at all.
Seriously tho with the stuff I'm into the stupid algorithm should have at least put this on my radar at some point but nope. Bullet dodged I guess. 😅
I only saw a single ad for this movie, when I was in the theatre for Elvis surrounded by the elderly. It was like 3 minutes of dead silence and the most awkward moment of my adult life
That's awfully funny
I'm so embarrassed on Eichner's behalf. There are a lot of films/shows starring LGB people (many of which are romance/relationship based) that have had actual impact (including Oscar recognition) in the past or are doing really well right now: Heartstopper, Sex Education, Brokeback Mountain, The Kids Are Alright, Milk, Call Me By Your Name, The Normal Heart, The Danish Girl, A Single Man, Carol, The Imitation Game, Pride, and that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
To blame your own lack of skills on an allegedly homophobic audience is embarrassing af at this point in time.
I wasn't homophobic but watching bros definitively changed that. Congrats.
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LOL, I remember seeing the trailer for Bros just before Top Gun: Maverick, and thought who the hell wants to see that?
Prolly gay man
I'm sure far more gay boys enjoyed that volleyball scene 🏐 in the first TOP GUN film 😅
@@insertnamehere5809 Yes top gun was very closeted gay. I remember seeing that movie and thinking: _Why is this scene even here? I was promissed aircrafts shooting other aircrafts._
@@Zodroo_Tint Quentin Tarantino did a whole speech about how TOP GUN was about one man's battle with his own sexuality 😂
@@Zodroo_Tint It was for the women in the audience whose boyfriends dragged them there
If sexual identity is so important for him, just make a gai porn with more or less plot. No one will argue or criticise, they could have even made some money.
These people cannot articulate anything without mentioning their sexuality. So damn weird.
You're thinking like a normal person. Left-wing identitarianism can't be satisfied simply by living as they wish, doing their thing. It must be front and centre in everything, whether it's film or baking bread - all must be gay/black/whatever.
Yeah and they wonder why the "Conservatives"(aka people who don't feel like hypersexuality 24/7 is acceptable) call them degenerates and perverts. It's like, you LITERALLY, are making your whole personality, worldview, goals, about sex. Sex is fun and all with the right people at the right time, but when that is essentially your whole identity, and you make a whole movie about it, you rite; just make a pr0n and get it over with. Don't pretend this is some kind of great step for the LGBT; this is just a vanity project with cringe jokes that only would have maybe landed in the mid-2000s for a week or two a-lá Napoleon Dynamite
@@viscountrainbows2857 Worst part it's not even sex in the sense of an ultimate expression of love and togetherness, no it's litterally about weird, promiscuous kink sex that often is done more for hooking up and bragging rather than expressions of love...effectively what porn is.
@@viscountrainbows2857some people need to accept that they’re not changing the world,they’re just horny
@@hydrailce3404 For real; they got like 5 hookup apps; keep that energy there.
"... a nothing burger served with air sauce..."
That part was worth a genuine ROFL. 😎
Thanks, I liked that line.
Finding out that Billy basically made himself an echo chamber in the people involved makes SO much sense now. When I saw this film watching any scene where he’s spouting his theories and beliefs I was thinking “Wow, this guy is talking like ‘ this is the way it is and everyone agrees with me.’ “ probably because everyone around him agreed with him.
My parents went to go see this movie... for some reason. They wanted me to come but i flat out refused. When they got back, my dad said that I dodged a bullet. 😁😎
Not so fun fact. The guy who played Jar Jar Binks wanted to unalive himself because of the backlash to the character and shame and embarrassment he felt after. He climbed onto the BK Bridge one day before deciding not to go through with it. He seems like a really nice guy in real life and was an Off Broadway actor in the play Stomp when a casting director saw him in the play and gave him the chance of a lifetime to act in Star Wars. Just wanted to humanize the Jar Jar situation cause even though it was and is cringe, these are still human beings we're talking about
Who tf cares
well you wasted your time reading everything I typed so the joke is on you @@GoldenMushroom64
@@GoldenMushroom64People who aren't assholes and dont want to see someone die because everyone thinks a slightly abnoying, subpar character is the spawn of satan and insult the actor for daring to take a role in star wars.
The "do you remember straight people? LOL they had a nice run" was LITERALLY the line I saw in the trailer that cemented me not wanting to see it. Like I'm all for adults doing whatever they wanna do to be happy or whatever but there's no need to disparage straight people...
It's hilarious they say that when it's only because of STRAIGHT PEOPLE that they even exist in the first place
Straight people do this all the time by making gay people feel weird so I don't agree with the amount of butthurt this poor-taste joke got. But I still agree with your sentiment
@innitbruv-lascocimics9910 millions of gay people could care less
I have rarely seen any straight people mock gay people for people gay
I’ve seen assholes gah people for being gay
Don’t lump straight people under one umbrella because of a couple asshoke
Not every straight person does this
If it’s bad for rude people to do it DONT DO IT BACK. Find the hood people and don’t mock them. It’s equivalent of hating big companies and insulting a mom and pop store because there also selling
@@dimitriwarchief301 Don't lump gay people because of one asshole either. Egdy humor is meant to be enjoyed by all, if gay people can't take the piss outta straightness or straight people for laughs then you sir are no proprietor for edgy dark humor. Why are you even watching this video knowing the creator himself is a fan of this humor. Is it rules for thee but not for me? How hypocritical of people like you to take the high road in public but stoop low in private and pretend like WE don't notice. Misinterpreting my words to fulfill some denial fantasy in your head
"Do you remember straight people? Yeah... *scoffs* they had a good run."
Meanwhile straight people: "Did you know that we're so powerful that we destroyed this entire movie without even noticing it?"
Billy Eichner: "RHEEEEEEEEEEE... RHEEEEEEEEEEE... RHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."
Yes I am blessed with another analytical roasting of a woke garbage movie 🙌
You don't use gay characters to write a scrip, you write a scrip with characters which some are gay
Remember the 1996 film 'The Birdcage'? That was a very gay themed comedy movie that landed & performed well with straight audiences... because it didn't have an identity politics agenda. It was just a fun film about 2 gay men trying to act straight to impress their adopted sons fiance.
Bro's appears to be charged with gay supremacist themes which are even expressed in the trailer. A film hating on & insulting people that make up 99% of the world's population and overimposing gay intimacy was never going to land. It's actually a miracle Warner execs signed off on the script! What on earth were they thinking???
I have a gay friend who saw it. He said & I quote:
“it was a very embarrassing & nothing but *regressive* anti-straight propaganda"
Not even gay people liked this movie.
I think Universal were testing the waters, Hollywood desperately want to make this kind of vomit a movie / TV staple, and this garbage was the canary in the coal mine.
It wasn't the fiancé they were trying to impress. She knew that they were a gay couple. They were trying to impress her *parents* who were not only conservative Republicans but the father was running for office. But yes, there were many many LGBT movies that handles themes far better than whatever Bros. was attempting to do. Which is depressingly hilarious because Bros. is a "modern" movie and movies like the Birdcage came out in 1996 at a time when being not only gay but out and proud was heavily frowned upon. It still put butts in seats.
As a gay man, I hated this movie so much. It was insulting. And the main character was INSUFFERABLE
As a non-gay man I also hated this movie.
This video is so satisfying to watch. Watching rich arrogant super left leaning people get completely crushed with reality is awesome
I actually feel kind-of sorry for Billy Eichner. Imagine being completely convinced of your own genius because of your innate narcissism plus constant affirmation from various outside sources. Then you get this devastating reality feedback proving that not only are you NOT a beloved genius, but you're actually disliked by most people and incompetent at your job. No wonder he had a hard time processing his failure.
I don't feel sorry for him at all...F him
Everyone needs a wake up call
@@wegdhass5587 sadly people like him don't "wake up" they construct fantasies to inhale the copium so they don't ever have to admit that no one likes anything they put out because it's pure garbage and even your niche audience doesn't care
He's so deep into his delusion I wonder if it's even physically possible for him to accept the truth of the matter. And I mean the neurons responsible being completely absent from his brain. And I wouldn't be surprised if this was the result of grooming from a young age, considering how normal his "character" seems to think sex in front of children is.
Yeah shit think about it. Extremely high confidence based in cement (as far as Eichner is concerned) and then gets told he is actually the opposite and is literally a bad filmmaker. I have 2nd hand hurt
Funny you mentioned George Lucas: I think, even he recognized he went too far with how controlling he was with the prequels. Something Eichner has yet to even consider.
In the original trilogy, he was shopping for different directors because he didn't believe he could do it alone. Too bad he shopped for David Lynch, someone who would never give something like Star Wars the time of day. Thanks to Lynch, George got used to being the figurehead, when the reality is that he really benefitted from different voices.
Too bad, Billy will never know the taste of success that comes from really working with people who have different perspectives.
I worked at a theater in California while this movie was running. This movie was DOA and barely lasted a month. Nobody watched it.
I haven’t even seen this movie, but just watching it in your video made me physically and verbally recoil at how bad and absurdly “gross” it is
That scene about "love is love is love" is really telling. It isnt love at all it is just degeneracy thank you Billy for point that out.
Absolutely. He's so vain and in need of attention he laid out in the open all the secrets of his cult.
More people should be picking up on that. We were shamed ten years ago for suggesting that they were faking being normal folks to get political decisions and here he basically says exactly that.
It also shoots the "no kids arent too young to learn gay history" line in the foot because gay history has just been established to be in fact, about being a slut.
@@matthewmosier8439male homophilia is advanced hypersexuality and female homophilia is advanced frigidity. Homophilia is retarded sexual development, because one is unable to love the 'other', often caused by sexual trauma.
Dont confuse being gay with being Billy Eichner.
The vast majority of gay people just want to live normal lives where they fall in love like everyone else.
"Love is not love!"
Way to go, Billy.
Along with proving the slippery slope, you managed to destroy the whole slogan for LGBT acceptance.
“Is it homophobic if I’m bored and want to leave?” 😂❤
Yes.
Unless you buy a hotdog with extra cheese on the way out.
Leaving without sucking a single dick? That's deeply homophobic.