Netflix’s Cleopatra is so Much Worse Than You Think
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Queen Cleopatra is by far the worst documentary I have ever seen; an all out assault on Egyptian, Roman and Greek history. ‘Cleopatra was black’ is just one of the hundreds of lies and historical distortions this show asserts as truth.
Afro Kween is vile: 00:00
'Cleopatra was black': 05:25
Blood libel against Egypt: 08:34
Hackademics and skintellectuals: 11:11
Basic historical illiteracy: 13:28
Girl boss Cleopatra: 15:30
Anti-male agenda: 17:20
We wuz the julian calendar: 25:31
More anti-white male agenda: 26:44
The distortion of The War of Actium: 27:53
Character assassination of Octavian: 36:00
Evil white colonizers: 40:00
The Romans were istophobes: 42:10
Many lies: 43:08
Failure of Afro Kween: 46:10
Sources:
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10 Major Accomplishments of Augustus Caesar | Learnodo Newtonic (learnodo-newtonic.com)
War of Actium - Wikipedia
Roman Empire under Augustus (Illustration) - World History Encyclopedia
www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/reg... - Розваги
400 years later;
"Elon Musk was black because he was from Africa."
He was also a transgender woman because women are powerful :D
He was a fighting Queer! 😂
You think they'll wait 400 years? It would be a plot twist if it wasn't in the works already
@@black-redpill3 lol yea it'll release 6 min after his death 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@5tm422 i would believe this rumour 😂
When Assasin's Creed is more historically accurate than a documentary.
Hell, the fate anime/game series is more accurate, let me toss in the shin megami tensei version of Cleopatra
Ubisoft do their research...:)
Bruh, Hoi4 with community mods are more accurate than this freaking show. Let alone Assassin’s Creed.
Also nasuverse version as well
😂😂😂😂😂
They talked about Egyptians like they’re a fantasy race
they could of hired an actual Egyptian to play the role of Cleopatra, but I guess that doesn't align with their fantasy.
@@yusuke502 Nah, that wouldn't fit with their pro black Egyptian utopia.
"She's the cleopatra that works best for me, the way I imagined her!"
Despot: "That's not history. That's fan fiction"
(mic drop)
Egyptians are the Tolkien elves of black people.
Cleopatra was a mixed white from already a mixed arab. It doent change the fact that historical egypt was black, until the many waves of arabs and white invading the land and decimating the locals over the centuries.
The fact that Yugioh and The Prince of Egypt paid homage to the Eygptians with their color and history WAY BETTER than this 💀💀
Holy shit, you're right.
As well as The Ten Commandments. They cast Yul Brynner as the wicked Pharaoh. I absolutely believed he was an Egyptian king.
@@AericLee23Yul Brynner was one of those actors that could convincingly play people from different countries, a bit like Anthony Quinn
@@deboraballes9044 I love Anthony Quinn’s portrayal of Caiaphas in Jesus of Nazareth. I was also amazed to hear his Italian in a behind-the-scenes interview.
Ignore the absolutely ahistorical part of prince of egypt where the jews were mass enslaved
The show not only insulted the Egyptians and Greeks, they also managed to insult the freaking Italians.
It's actually kind of impressive how this show managed to make everyone mad lol
@@sisilotau2185 We just need blacks to point out that the show was so bad it brought down the reputation of blacks to get everyone on side.
Have there been any interviews with these people since?
a big part of the black community is seething as well.
saying : we couldnt find any fameous black woman. so we made one from a white person.
was not only blackwashing. but also really racist.
but hey its the bitch who told her bf : go beat up chris rock or i will divorce your ass.
@@HBADGERBRAD The Egyptian expert published an article in AlJazeera defending himself. He said the production never disclosed the casting choice with him. He also never met the director, and mentioned he was disappointed at her calling the documentary a political act
He also didn't know he would be the only Egyptian being consulted on the show.
Jada was as faithful to history as she was to her husband...
Jada Pinkett Smith “Queen of Denial and Entanglements”
Watch out, the cucklord will make effeminate slaps at you!
😂
Be careful, you are gonna get slap.
That's pretty irrelevant to criticism of te docudrama.
You know what's really sad? The misconception that Cleopatra was black is so popular that Netflix thought they could get away with this. It's comforting to know that in the end it still backfired.
I used to find american Afro-centrism really funny. Now its getting f*cking worrying.
The only think blks did was invent necklacing and famine as a normal state of affairs. No wonder they're so brazen in stealing everyone else's history.
The positive is that the other minorities aren't going to lay down and show their bellies to this crap.
Would be funny to have Hollywood and co portray how many african nations developed after the colonial empires fell apart.(colonialism itself being a different topic)....But an awefull amount of regions in africa have gone back to"Oh,nice stick that can shoot fire.Want to trade it for these villagers we captured"@@kenricnarbrough8191
You obviously did not actually watch the docudrama. No one in the docudrama thinks Cleopatra is black, and in fact that view is refuted in the first 20 minutes. There apparently are people who think that (and old, dead grandma was apparently one), but Netflix definitely does not. Did you only watch the 2 minute trailer? Or are you listening to lies on the internet?
when i learned that Egypt were suing Netflix, it was hugely amusing bc imagine making something so horrendous that an entire country is suing you
you might cheer for that egyptian lawsuit, but if you believe in freedom of speech you should also believe in the freedom to be a stupid fucking idiot. Netflix is first and foremost an entertainment platform and not advertised as a font of knowledge. and they are also not a establishment of factual truth like the Justice system. Netflix is not news like Foxnews, the former can spew lies and bs while the latter lost a billion dollars from tucker and his voting machines.
Im proud of Egypt and Egyptians of rejecting this trash.
@@Melvin-Deeply infidel does not mean stupid....:)
@@Melvin-Deeply Egypt is more secular than you think.
@@Melvin-Deeply lol did the Egyptians call you an infidel telepathically???
@@Melvin-Deeply i know Muslims and we disagree alot but I would rather argue with a fellow man of God then some stupid fools who don't even believe in a higher power...and the Muslims agree.
You are infidel to our beliefs and we are infidel to your/non muslims beliefs so it goes both ways which we don’t believe in the same god cuz people are different you know,however almost the entire planet agreed on one thing and one thing only Cleopatra was not black and the series is trash! 😂
"My grandmother told me... I don't care what they tell you in school... Black Panther was white."
*Standing ovation.*
My grandfather told me MLK was white so it must be true 🫤
@@Jay3up My grandfather told me that Malcolm X was white, then faked his own death and changed his name to Shaun King!
And that is the truth, the Golden Age Black Panther was white... It's the Silver Age one who was black...
🤣🤣🤣
You are strong and brave!
Men can give birth!
I think ppl forget you can be african without being black
Yeah it's a big place with a lot of different people.
@@Noxthedunmer If they want to make an African Queen documentary why not make one that is true and not made up. If they need a Black Queen why not tell the story of Seble Wongel Empress of Ethiopia. During the Ethiopian-Adal war and how important she was as an advisor and counselor to her sons and grand children.
"Jada Pinket's *bald* faced lies"
Please stop, i can't take any more! 😂
I was waiting for Will Smith's hand to slap the hell outta him for that line...HAHAHAHA!
I’m ashamed to admit I missed that
@@iAmEbolaWoT that 'sIap' was more fake Cleopatra's swordsmanship...
@@bdleo300 I am hazy on the various weapons of the period, and she’s not holding a scimitar, but I could swear both she and her opponent are holding their weapons backwards/upside down. I came out to the comments trying to anyone’s remarks upon that because I don’t know it just looks wrong.
I hope that whenever Jada makes a post online people call her out for her sexual encounters with the very young 14 y/o boy from the kiddie band Kriss Kross not to mention she turned him onto drugs which he died by drugs. Also involved with the boy was Chili from the R&B band TLC. Not to mention Robert De Niro who was involved in underage trafficking in France. The liars at Fact Check you know the sexual deviants claimed he wasn't arrested! True he bought his way out of that trouble.
You have to admit, it's pretty damn impressive to botch history so badly that an entire country comes at you with a lawsuit.
Wait until Jada Smith releases her next documentary on Julius Caesar. Because her grandma told her "they ain't no white man named Julius! Caesar was a black man!"
@gintokisakata1917 imagine in 2140 A New documentary about how putin the Leader of Russia Was black because my great alcoholic grandfather said so!!11!!1!!1
It wasn't botched, it was a deliberate attempt to push lies.
Then cry racism when they are corrected. Because holding black people accountable for their actions is racist.
@@geeebuttersnap2433 Amen to that, mate
"You can imagine what Cleopatra looked like in your own way." NO! No, you can't! She was a real person, not a fictional character.
I cried with joy at the bit where Napoleon Bonaparte is cowering in fear at Austerlitz, then Cleopatra burst through the enemy lines in her tank, rousing Bonaparte to believe he could win the day.
Everyone in my house stood up and clapped
As an Egyptian I ask every human with a logical operating mind and respect to human history to help fight the pseudoscience ignorance such as this for the sake of our future! DON’T LET STUPID PEOPLE WIN!
So, Arabs are native to Africa now? you are aware that your people invaded alllll of north Africa during the 7th century AD right?
Bro I made a video about the actual black pharaohs (kushite empire) and you wouldn't believe the amount of pseudoscience garbage that has been posted in the commentsection lmao
This time they lost, brother. Far more people know the truth about Queen Cleopatra now because of people debunking their lies.
Can the Egiptian people make a documentary about Abraham Lincoln?
Just make him Arab descendent. My grandma told me no matter the school teach me, he was Musulman. 👁️ 👄 👁️
blessings and peace be upon Egypt - 🍁
"I don't care what they tell you in school, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was white". - my Grandmother.
How dare you gender assume! SHE was white!
😂😂😂 i aqree
Black is the new Nazi
Momma says Life is Like a Box…🤣 FR like the fact that this whole show is based on “I DONT CARE WHAT THEY TELL YOU IN SCHOOL” just makes a mockery of so many aspects of history and even film making.
you know how we can prove that Martin Luther Sr. was a white German^^.
I hate when male characters are downplayed or made out to be outright stupid just to make the female character(s) look like badasses, especially so when the female is ALREADY pretty badass in her own right! It just screams "women can't be cool unless the men are stupid!"
Yeah, it works very much against them in my opinion. The way they approach female empowerment reeks of overcompensation and just reminds me of the Mary-Sue characters I used to read in fan fiction that used to annoy me so much. If you want to make a point about the strategic brilliance of a female character, you shouldn’t need to dumb down a man to make her look better by comparison.
@@ayana_0150 EXACTLY!
Every single white male character in the last series of F*cking Fargo.. You know what I can't even say or type it without putting the word F*cking in front anymore.
That’s every single sitcom. The husbands are always complete idiots and the wives are always right.
Agripa was a fantastic general, strategic genius and tactically perfect leader. He was an incredibly loyal friend to Augustus and deserves the spotlight.
Ok
They nailed her accent perfectly also. Cleopatra definitely had a proper British accent and that’s a fact.
English. She has an English accent. Britain contains the Welsh, Scots, and those across the way under N.I. _All vastly different accents and even languages_
@@n0odles86 touche
patdaley9098: "yOu dIDn't WatCh thE doCUdraMa dIdn'T yOu?"
@@n0odles86If you're going to be that pedantic then she doesn't even have an "English accent" and you'd want to specify because there are more English accents in 10 square miles than there are across multiple American states.
English accent is a British accent.@@n0odles86
13:38 "All of Gaul?" Well, not entirely... One small village of indomitable Gauls still holds out against the invaders.
Ah yes, no one can handle Asterix and Obelix, not even the mighty Romans.
@@Fullmetal85 Netflix could actually be an Asterix character.
Not really and Gual was not a country. It was a race of tribes only united by Caesar for a short time until they lost. It was the Germanic tribes who held out until Rome overcome by uncontrolled migration weakened by corrupt multi ethic army and broke by social spending who beat their B
It's a reference to a funny Comic book series
@@edmundcowan9131it’s a reference to a cartoon chill 😂
Make the lie simple, make the lie big, repeat the lie until it becomes truth.
This is the standard formula for Orwellian monsters.
And Hollyweird has become Orwell's Ministry of Truth come to life.
Really similar to another quote
*_“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”_*
- Joseph Goebbels, war propagandist for the Nazi Party
I am a victim of that
I love how the power struggle between "tWo MeN" is somehow framed as toxic but Cleopatra's feuding with her own siblings is just glossed over
Also the incest part, the part where she married her brother according to an ancient Egyptian custom.
@@jeanvandenberg8986 Obviously, neither of you actually watched the docudrama!
It goes over the incest and the issues between her and her own siblings. I don’t remember if it glosses over her brother trying to get rid of her in a coupe but it does mention the incest. She married both of her little brothers and the stuff with her sister is also in it
My grandma told me “now matter what they tell you, the slaves from Africa brought to USA were white.”
@@patdaley9098 You clearly didn't, and just in case you need a reminder, dude, it's BAD and 1000000% historically INaccurate. :)
Guys, her grandma said she was black, there's no higher authority than that. We need to accept that an old black woman who probably lived in the 30s knows exactly what color she was even better than PHDs in the subject. How are you not getting this?
The PhDs will soon be echoing her, lest their right-thinking comrades yank their funding. Higher ed leads the charge up Woke Hill.
I don't even know her gran.
Cleopatra was also a transgender woman 🤣.
ikr!!! my gran told me that cleopatra led the mongol horde after genghis khan and that she conquered all of asia!
Forget PhDs. My grandma Joe Biden knows better than Roman historians. She knows better than the sculptors who created his busts at the time. If you think my grandma Joe Biden is wrong, you ain't black.
"No matter what they say, my grandma told me Despot was black."
“Reflection of myself”
@@CEAsfg "Yes, Mr Reflection, that is indeed a reflection of yourself."
Netflix should be sued in _every_ country for this. Calling this a "documentary" is false advertising.
"I don't care what they tell you at school - Cleopatra was black"
Watch it again.
That one sentence is spread over TWO SHOTS.
They filmed her saying it, then they MOVED THE CAMERA, set focus and framing, and had her SAY IT AGAIN.
This is no throwaway line, this is no casual comment - this is PLANNED AND CAREFULLY CRAFTED PROPAGANDA.
We're supposed to feel guilty/pressured/rude if we dare contradict that deceased grandmother.
They were planning to call any white American saying anything racist as usual but they didn’t take into account that Egyptians can speak and call out their lies without being called racist since we are not white 😂
@@ahmadesmail Roast them for us, Egypt-bro. Roast them good.
@@mirceazaharia2094 😂😂😂
This is something that people don’t pay enough attention to, and I’m glad you’re mentioning it. The amount of focus they put into the camera shots in both the acting and the monologue tells you all you need to know about their bullshiete agenda. There are certain shots that they want to stand out more than others (i.e., those annoying little boss bitch side eyes from Cleopatra)
@@ahmadesmail
Allow me to be the first to welcome you lads to the White Race when the left screeches about you like they did the Cubans and Asians.
Again, Jada is as good as making docu-series as she is at being a faithful wife
right and I cannot believe no one talks about how she groomed her sons friend! WTF
@@masunrise7471 Older Women benefit from young Men lusting after them. Whatever benefits Women is good, whatever benefits Men is neutral at best and evil if it inconveniences Women.
@free_at_last That's the truth. Female nature is very ugly.
Like as if Cleopatra was faithful too. LOL ☕
@@aaironparker2837 only thing Jada relates to cleopatra. They're both wh0r**
Calling Egyptian people white supremacists as a counter to the backlash was just hilarious
Its a type of pshychological warfare, they just screech the same thing repeatedly to piledrive the nonsense through mental attrition.
Cleopatras father Ptolemy XII was illegitimate and only became Pharaoh after his father and then half sister had died. Being illegitimate meant he was probably not fully Greek and likely of mixed Greek and Egyptian heritage. Cleopatra became Pharaoh upon his death. There is no record of Cleopatra’s maternal line. Neither her mother (supposedly Cleopatra V) or Grandmother is confirmed. It makes sense that her mother was mixed (African and Greek) especially as she is the only Ptolemy to learn Egyptian.
let add - men and all european skin color to your statement👍
@@infinitesimotel That's what toddlers do.
@@DirtyTurtle67 Indeed, but do they use political race rhetoric in their propaganda vectors?
Remember when CRT started to be taught in schools. Everyone who was opposed to it got the response, "Why don't you want children to learn real history?"
Is this the "real history" they were talking about?
For being a "bad guy" as the title Despot suggests, you sure are a champion of justice and truth! I'm glad to have discovered your channel.
Jada wasn’t content with ruining Will Smith; she had to go after Egypt, too
I snorted lmao
Egypt survived for thousands of years, it can survive Jada (Will knocks on my door and slaps it)
Lmao
What a leap, from man to country.
only one punch man could handle the 100 pushups, situps and squats. he could manage to handle the baldness.
She said she never wanted to study Cleopatra until someone said we're going to make her black and she was on board
Don't know if you watched it. But she actually says she had a dream that Cleopatra visit her in a dream. Told her to tell her story.
@@kylemendoza8860 ...right after she was offered a stupid amount of money to weasel-word history into making black Cleopatra plausible...
Well at least it's accurate and not that white washed crap they gave us in school
She needs to check her own racism instead of accusing audiences of being racist. 😅 “Oh, I won’t study this queen of European descent bc of her skin colour.”
@@kylemendoza8860
Lol..I heard about that, she had a dream that cleopatra came to her, stupidity at its finest.
I’m still shocked that Netflix approved trash like this, they should go broke and close down.
Your bit with Jada as Palpatine as an allegory for the current state of affairs was beyond brilliant.
Masterful memecraft sir.
It's inaccurate: Palpatine was actually intelligent
It's funny they say "We don't KNOW who Cleopatra's family was.". When the actual truth is THEY don't know. Historians do. That's why they are called historians. They've researched this topic.
My grandfather told me: I don't care what they tell you in this documentary, Cleopatra had big boobs.
I see your grandfather was a man of culture
My grandfather said she had 3 big ones. And her real name was Clitophatass.
as a self appointed highly qualified historian, this is 100% accurate
Cleopatra was a dude, man. He died from yanking his snake. 😃
You know, this might not be fake, she was the Marilyn Monroe of her era, except with higher education than Monroe
When Cleopatra pulled Excalibur out of the rock and shouted "I have... THE POWER!!" was one of the moments of African history.
I think the moment she said 'its morbin time" was the moment that blew me away.
😂😂😂😂😂
Dudeeee i lost it when abraham lincon said to cleopatra "we was kkweennzzz" and finally took his mask off revealing he was a black tranagender woman. We all cried
But what about when she destroyed the Roman armies with her farts 💨? That was surely empowering!
When Cleopatra, Anne Boleyn and Haakon Sigurdsson used the Delorean to stop Sauron and Octavius from completing the Death Star and reclaim Europe from the evil ‘whitey colonizers’ I was shaken, and when they busted out into a rap song, I had to scoop my jaw off the floor. 😂
One minor correction, Octavian was not known as Octavian at the time, as you mention at 36:10. His name was Gaius Octavius Thurinus prior to his adoption by Caesar. After being adopted, his name changed to Gaius Julius Caesar. This is the name he was known by at the time of the show's setting. Later, he would add the cognomen "Augustus" to his name, becoming Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus. "Octavian" is short for "Octavianus", which means "formerly Octavius". It is only a convention used by historians to prevent confusing Octavian himself with his grand uncle Caesar, it was never used as his name by Romans.
Excellent analysis, commentary and very interesting!
My eyebrows kind of went south down to my nose felt like, when they said Cleopatra was black. And they stayed there for the whole documentary on Netflix. Yup, I did watch the whole thing because im curious, didn't know really how to react to so many misconceptions.
You've done it so well in your video and I applaud you 👏👏👏 You also gave me some laughs since the video is made and also your spot on commentary.
And wtf is it with all this wokeness??? Drives me nuts! Greetings from Sweden 🌹 🇸🇪
Cleopatra also ordered the deaths of her younger sister and two younger brothers, who were both children.
Her father assassinated his eldest daughter who threatened his rule.
No doubt, they failed to mention the brutality of her ambitions.
Yeah...gloss over that why don't they? I think it's weird that we are so scandalized by her being in a relationship with two different men, one after then other, and being a serial monogamist, when she literally committed fratricide. She was a calculating person who increased her power in maybe not the most ethical ways. You cant ignore that. But of course, they do.
No they admitted to it. I do however agree with their defense. They were products of their time and environment. It really wouldn't be fair to trust them by modern standards. But I think they're a few historical examples that their head would explode if you try to extend the same courtesy.
Easily explained! That was her Greek side! 😏👀
Well, given her father's example, it was kill or be killed in her family. She was a kid herself at about age 16 when she met Caesar! Her story is not unusual in history. It was often kill or be killed in royal families in many cultures throughout history. Yet none of that has anything to do with race.
Because black people can't do anything bad according to Netflix
You know what also pisses me off in this 'documentary'? The fact that despite Cleopatra was known for doing great things - it wasn't enough. Oh no, she also had a hand with the calendar creation, was a powerful warrior, and a military strategist.
Implying that the original Cleopatra wasn't good enough and needed to be perfect at everything. Which is pretty insulting and a bad message for girls that are pretty much told "Remember, even if you're great at certain things and have accomplishments you reached, it's not enough. It's never enough."
a good point, well put.
Exactly. Cleopatra VII was incredibly intelligent in her own right, and was a master at negotiation. I'd personally like to see a show about her political pursuits in that vein.
I don’t think this false bs of a documentary wants a universal message for girls in general, their shitty producers and actors made very clear that this insult to intelligence was directed at “melanated sisters” and all that crap
It's lazy tokenism 101: make sure you stress how good that race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, or religious group is by making them better then anyone else and free from flaws so you can show how more evolved they and -the writers- their views are compared to everyone else, and avoid any possible accusations of being some kind of racist, sexist, or other -ist or -phobe by making that minority character a Mary Sue free from human defects.
As long as they also show the truth about her killing 2 of her siblings, and marrying both her brothers 🤷🏽♀️ She's idolized and fetishized as this powerful strategist, seductress and queen but they sanitize her vile history and her families vile history
Thank you for including clips from Rome’s depiction of Cleopatra, that show was incredible and ironically it portrayed Cleopatra in a far more complex and powerful way, she was intelligent, witty, cruel and deceptive. It was a masterful portrayal and far more realistic than this dross. I wonder who’s history black feminists are going to co-opt next? What about Anne Boleyn? Oh wait….
41:44 the Sphinx lost her nose because of a Gaul, at least according to the Asterix Comics, which are more acurate then this Netflix "documentary"
I can't believe an anime about card games was more historically accurate than a California made documentary
This show needs to be banished to the shadow realm 😂
It's in the name "California made" is a recipe for disaster
jojos is more accurate jojos has vampires
california? fucking yuck, no wonder its so awful
Why someone would make this for any reason is beyond me 😢
The problem isn’t with female characters being allowed to be strong - it’s with them not being allowed to be weak
And considering a woman "strong" if she trains , moves, have s*x and behave ruthless and prepotent like a male stubborn jerk. Hollywood female characters became what self respectful men and proud women don't need and don't want to be.
How about females who actually existed being shown the way they were? In real life Cleopatra was not a warrior woman.
There are many ways to be strong plus being strong doesn’t mean you will succeed in fact it could be your downfall just look at Julius Caesar he was killed by his own alies because he was so powerful it scared them
@@alicianelson1252 by all means Julius Caesar succeeded. His death was premature but that does not at all take away from his accomplishments, and arguably his biggest accomplishment of all, his commitment to mentoring and raising Octavian, Augustus. Arguably the greatest emperor that Rome ever had.
@@yesyes-om1po true but if he kept himself in check and didn’t scare the shit out of people he could of lived longer and accomplished more still not the only Roman emperor to be murdered
I can't imagine how much time you put into these videos. Your analysis is almost always poignant, in depth, and observant. Please keep it up!
That old movie you showed clips from for context and in contrast looks pretty great, including even wardrobe, including on Cleopatra herself, the decor and styling with her hair. Should watch it
A lot of the clips are from HBOs “Rome” series, which was great, as far as the portrayal of Roman culture and history, but which also takes quite a few unsupported liberties with Cleopatra, where she is a more portrayed as a bimbo drug addict sex kitten.
I also love how they made Caesar and other Romans as phenotypically Scandinavia instead of more Mediterranean like the average Roman would have been, they really wanted to drive home the point that brave black Cleopatra was fighting against pasty white AngloSaxons
problem is that they show us that later everyone in norway and england was black too kinda shows us that whites lost or something?
@@Jimoshi1 they literally believe white people were created by a scientist named Yakub because he was evil
@@jamescuttler8047 lmao never thought to see his ig being referenced on yb
Right XD?
Actually "Mediterranean ethnic" doesn't exist.
Roman were an European people(ethnically, language...) so yes more closer to Scandinavian than to egyptians
The biggest insult to Octavian is the fact that irl, he spared Cleopatra's so-called "half-breed bastards." (With the exception of Caesarian, because he was Caesar's true, if not legitimate son.) The three children she had with Antony were sent to be raised by his own sister after Cleopatra's death. But no, they couldn't show a man honoring the deal he made with a defeated queen. Instead we get Grand Wizard Octavius Ruckus of the Westboro Baptist Church, a malicious, sneering, bigoted, and low-IQ mockery of the actual man.
I think I speak for many when I say the sooner Hollywoke dies in it's own irrelevance, the better.
Augustus was actually a handsome guy, and they made him look like a creep.
I agree! When I first learned his sister had taken in her children I was shocked at that act of kindness in a less than kind time. The Romans did not like Cleopatra so his sister taking them in was a huge deal and a great example of humanity.
@@marniekilbourne608 But he still killed Caesarion because he could become a rival.
@Pat Daley "Caesarion" was also an adult at that point who came back to Egypt from exile thinking he had a chance to take back the title of Pharaoh. If he just stayed in exile in India, he would have been completely fine. His own ambition doomed him.
I’ll never forgive the Octavian slander in this “documentary”. You have an actually interesting and intelligent historical figure, who by all accounts was a decent person and good ruler. who did what he thought he had to do to achieve his political goals, which he genuinely believed to be in Rome’s best interest.
So what do you do? Turn him into a misogynistic, violent caricature of a “roman general” for your wacky propaganda show, because you think that having an intelligent, compelling male character would ruin your female protagonist.
This was the video that really got me into you, Despot of Antrim. Your presentation style, tone and factoids really convinced me you were an interesting UA-camr.
'Reflection of myself reflected back at myself' was clever
So glad to know we live in 1984 now. Netflix is now literally roleplaying the Ministry of Truth.
I was about to comment that, if you agree with everything in this documentary, it would be Doublethink. They say that her dynasty was from Makedonia and that they practiced incest, and at the same time they race-swap her. That means that either there a adults who are not sentient enough to realize their Doublethink or that nobody was happy with this production (including the producers). There really isn't any other option that I'm aware of.
Liberal Pluralism isn’t authoritarian it’s simply it’s inevitable conclusion
@AtheJbaka. Indeed. That’s why the basic process of history, as folks like Marx pretty much laid it out, is as as such. Liberal Pluralism, or “Democracy/Capitalism” leads to Socialism. Socialism leads to Communism. And Communism leads to the End of History! Cycle complete.
This docutruth was double plus good
We all need to worship Big Grandmother. Big Grandmother Is Watching You.
My grandma always said "no matter what they try to tell you, there's a man living inside of my walls who comes out at night to watch me in the shower and hide my television remote from me."
She...she wasn't well in her final years.
Sounds like a smart woman... most never notice me
That's exactly the plot of the movie "The Boy" 😅
this reminded me of a comedy skit from blark and son
He is in the walls
@@queenberuthiel5469 I was just thinking that...
I remember my grandmother saying to me"I dont care what they tell you in school,
"Malcom X was Asian"
I think the words
"Executive Producer
Jada Pinkett Smith"
Should've been thee first clue.
Congratulations on your Netflix sponsorship! I'm really excited to see your review of the series you showed the trailer for. :)
My Latin teacher forced me to translate those Roman historical texts about Egypt around this time. If I had known that I could simply ask my grandmother what she felt was right and then just copy paste her quotes into my homework and still get an A++, that would have been good.
Everyone know’s that me’ma’s drunken tirades about white supremacy in the classical period hold more weight than contemporary accounts! What are you stupid or something?
The uncut version has Cleopatra being portrayed by Fallon Fox and depicting African's magical powers of flight, energy bolts, weather manipulation and time travel.
It had more facts than this trash.
😂😂
Apparently you could have gotten a PhD if you just listened to Grandma
I GOT A PHD IN EBONICS, WE WUS KANGS N SHEET BRUH
what a time we live in when the "Asterix & Obelix" depicted history more accurately than "documentary series"
You seen the new Netflix asterix an obelix?
@@ComradeCommissarYuri It is still more accurate than “Cleopatra”… (and that is saying something).
Yes, in Asterix, Cleopatra had a beautiful nose
@@martinmayhew145 And a temper ! *Breaks a pot*
Asterix and Obelix were written by Comedian duo, who have life experience, studied history and know how to make jokes. Uderzo based the comic franchise on his life experiences, people he knew, literature he read and understood and also historical facts. Goscinni also did this, but he died by the time Franchise reached its PEAK, then Uderzo had to make comics on his own, which wasnt as high as the peak, but was still near its peak. RIP UDERZO(My second favorite comic book writer)
Female He-Monarch was based on isolated world views of activists, who think that entire world is like their Neo-Bolshevik school studies.
The Afroamerican Kween is Female He-monarch, but with taste of Cultural revolution in Mao's era.
If you want some historical movie, id reccomend 1612, which is a 2007 Russian movie about guy, who joins defense of Moscow against Polish army. Some people claim that this is "Propaganda" because reasons, but i dont see much of the propagandistic things about it, other than "Strong leadership, dangers and treachery of strangers and importance of patriotism"(Like in The Patriot, Braveheart and so on)
Or in case of "Historical" TV Show, Spartacus: BLood and Sand(300 + Tits and Ass + Gachimuchi + Jupiter's cock + Gladiator = MANLY MEN)
The source for this documentry is basically "I made it the fuck up"
In the meanwhile I’ve been waiting for almost 10 years for someone to make a movie or a show about African mythology. Someone was shooting one I think in Algeria and then production stopped and I got no more news. Like… come on Hollywood, give me that. Give me a cool story about African myths.
And here we all thought Jada Smith's worst offense was going to be inspiring Will to make an absolute ass of himself in front the world on live television. Turns out she was just warming up.
Will Smith is a simp.
I'm looking forward to Will Smith right-handing some little, old Egyptian scholar who doesn't accept the phactual accuracy of JPS's documentary.
Well she also sleep with her sons friend
Her and Will clearly deserve each other.
This ‘documentary’ is atrocious. However Will Smith is a grown man and fully responsible for his own actions.
Jada Pinkett Smith didn’t need a self insert like this, she’s already royalty; Jada is the “Queen of Denial and Entanglements”
Queen of cuckolds
And, just like her husband, she likes to slap the cheeks of other men.
The depictions of Cleopatra as a white woman originated during the Renaissance period, specifically in the 16th century. During this time, European artists and writers often portrayed historical and mythological figures from ancient civilizations according to their own cultural ideals and standards of beauty. Cleopatra, being an Egyptian queen, was subject to these artistic interpretations, resulting in portrayals that did not accurately reflect her likely appearance.
It is important to note that Cleopatra was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, which was of Macedonian Greek descent, and historians believe that she likely had Greek or Mediterranean features. Additionally, there is evidence to suggest that Cleopatra took measures to present herself as a legitimate Egyptian ruler, including adopting certain aspects of Egyptian culture and dress. However, the Renaissance depictions of Cleopatra as a white woman continued to persist in art and popular culture for centuries, contributing to a widely accepted but historically inaccurate image of her appearance. By the way, there were 7 Cleopatras the 7th being the most popular. Most people just parrot what they hear instead of doing actual research.
@@horusba2620 There were pale Greeks also. and in almost all times and places pale was associated with beauty and high-status. Even black Americans prefer lighter-skinned mates.
I'm not saying that Cleopatra was pale skinned, but to say it necessarily had to be some whitewashing is absurd. Especially since the very idea of "white" is a very recent invention.
@@hideousruin
وصف المقريزي لأهل مصر :
"أهل مصر يغلب عليهم الدعة والجبن والقنوط والشح وقلة الصبر وسرعة الخوف والحسد والنميمة والكذب والسعي إلى السلطان وذم الناس بالجملة، كما يغلب عليهم الشر والدنية التي تكون من دناءة النفس والطبع .....ومن أجل توليد أرض مصر الجبن والشرور والدنية لم تسكنها الأُسد، حتى كلابها أقل جرأة من كلاب غيرها من الأمصار، وكذلك سائر ما فيها أضعف من نظيره في البلدان الأخرى، ماخلا ما كان منها في طبعه ملايمة لهذا الحال كالحمار والأرنب".
"المواعظ والاعتبار بذكر الخطط والآثار".
.........
هذا ما كتبه المقريزي في عصره, والجدير بالذكر ان المقريزي شيخ المؤرخين المصريين المعروف باسم تقي الدين المقريزي ولد وتوفي في القاهرة(764 هـ ـ 845 هـ) (1364م - 1442م),
أي عاش معاصرا لدولة المماليك البحرية ثم دولة المماليك الشركس (المماليك البرجية).
"Skintellectual" is an amazingly appropriate pun. Well done!
That's what we call a linguistic killshot
Definitely!
"culture vulture" is another term that comes to mind
I dream of the day they make a Latino Hitler movie
They could try making h8.... more juicier
That'll never happen. He was evil, so he will forever be chwite
Jewish hitler
Ive been to brazil and there are actually black nazis! Theres a funny french movie, cant remember the name, but its set in brazil and is kind of a spoof of james bond. There is a scene where there are black nazis. I bet a brazillian was involved with the production.
Native American Ghenghis Khan next pls. And Asian Stalin
I just found you! I subscribed cause i really like your voice, great for storytelling and your humor make me laugh 😊
Thanks man. Welcome to the channel!
I love how they thought that ladies like about “my grandma said cleopatra was black” was going to be so amazing they put it in the trailer and did a music drop to emphasize it and think it was epic. While it just showed how embarrassing it is
Indeed. It's like the most asinine thing I have ever heard in a "documentary", yet they try to portray it as some sort of powerful moment. Oh lord the cringe!
So you didn't watch the docudrama but feel you can criticize it,, anyway. The old lady does not agree with her late grandmother, and indeed, they proceed to refute her. They describe her Macedonian ancestry as a Ptolemy, and they discuss some ambiguities in her familyytree; But no one suggests any black ancestors.
@@patdaley9098 I’ve watched multiple reviews of it. It’s utter nonsense and they reimagine history to paint the guys as emotional and inept while cleopatra is the best.
@@mikemcmike6427 As I said, you didn't watch the docudrama but you criticize it anyway. I'm sure the same is true of many of the "reviews" you have watched: they didn't watch it, either.
@@patdaley9098 they provided direct clips and evidence of the nonsense historical reinagination. They paint some of the greatest people in history as irrational, emotional idiots and drunks. All so they can elevate Cleopatra in comparison. It’s not just dishonest but disgusting.
Even the critics on Rotten tomatoes give it a 20%. Of all the experts they bring in to Talk there’s only ONE historian with a degree in Egyptology and they aren’t even finished their masters!! Multiple actual experts have come out saying it’s nonsense. Egyptians historians came out saying it’s nonsense.
Why you would choose this hill to fight on is frankly embarrassing for you.
10:15 "No. You do not _imagine_ history, you *_discover_* history"
Whole lot of imagining happened in this "Documentary" for sure.
The only people who imagine history are the people who want to rewrite it
Imagining history would be called "alternate history" and it can be pretty popular
You obviously have never done much history, much less tried to write about history. In a docudrama, the dramatic reenactments are imagined of necessity. In a pure documentary, any conclusion you draw from the (sparse) evidence necessarily requires imagination. So what do you imagine Cleopatra looked like?
@@patdaley9098 Well, for starters, she wasn't black and didn't have an afro. She was likely tanned, had short hair or hair that went down instead of out into an afro for no reason, and been showered with all the finery an Egyptian noble could get their hands at the time. We don't have to imagine much about her appearance, all the information we have on her and her familial history is more than enough to make an educated guess.
You do realize we still have people who live in Macedonia who could easily play the part of Cleopatra, alternatively there's this group of people in Egypt called Egyptians who would also be fairly close. Cleopatra was only 2,000 years ago, we have plenty of information on her even without very many surviving portraits.
@@patdaley9098dude we have sculptures, paintings, and written accounts, she wasn't black get over it already.
its frustrating because Cleopatra was a very unique leader with a very interesting story and it would've been way cooler if they recognised her actual achievements instead of trying to re-imagine her
as an egyptian whos been silently dealing with Black Supremacy insults going my way & knowing and hearing these people spouting all this bullshit to me all these years, im so glad they are finally being called out for their BS.
الصمت ليس الحل، الأفروسنيتريك يجب أن يضربوا على وجوههم حتى يستيقظوا، لعنتهم العزى
I'm Native American and recently had certain people trying to convince me that there's no such thing as Native Americans. We are African Americans because they are the true indigenous people of America. I give up trying to argue it's like hitting my head against a brick wall.
@@darlahays2471 oh yes yes yes to that one too. they love to dismiss all native americans & claim they are the true natives... in their world view they are literally everything. we see you too.
When you have no clue, no education and no actual culture to speak of... steal everyone else's.
@@darlahays2471 Holy Shit, didn't even know that one was a thing.
As an Egyptian, i like to thank you for the video and for bringing up the Egyptian population at the time as no one mentions it, I just would like to add that Arabs conquered Egypt with an army of 6000 soldiers and they wouldn’t be able to succeed without the help of Egyptians themselves as they were fed up with the Romans, so they are trying to convince themselves that 6000 men genocide 5million inhabitant and managed to replace the entire population…
يا صديقي انت ناسي حاجه تقولها وياريت تعدل تعليقك وتضيف هذه المعلومة لهم اساسا العرب من نسل ام مصريه هاجر ام العرب فزاي العرب من اصل مصري يغزوا مصر؟
@@MCShifo111 والله ياما قولنا للمصريين قبلهم اصلا بس مين يسمع
I am not sure if there was much difference between the Romans and the Arabs that came in, but in the end the Arabs lived around Egypt anyway. So the Egyptians already looked like them already because obviously to me at least neighboring countries do look similar. Greece and Cyprus is not that far away and also Libia is a neighbor country, Israel is sort of connecting to Egypt. In fact quite an amount of sub-Saharan africans went to Egypt while the black slaves during I believe 1500s or 1600s but that is quite an amount of time later that these people came there then the pyramids were built. Maybe there were darker skinned slaves before too but then again we are not talking about the farao, but also people get darker skinned the more they are in the sun. Slaves would be in the sun quite some more than others. Especially if those were working outside or building. I think that some people forget that having darker skin doesn't make you black. When I cycle for 4 weeks in the sun I get darker too. That is just logical. I don't know exactly about the people that came into the country but I just base it now in the neighboring countries on the opposite side of the see or literal neighbors, but if we base "Arabs" it is not really a separate race. North-Africa is seen as caucasian if I search that.
@@-_YouMayFind_- true that I’d just add that Arabs believed to originate from Egyptians through Hager peace be upon her which believed to be the mother of Arabs
looks like i have to deal with the original thieves of Egyptian history. Listen buddy. The Copts didn't like you and they didn't help you conquer Egypt. I would know being Coptic myself. You are not even Egyptian so don't say as an Egyptian. So shut your mouth. You and that stupid laywer that in his lawsuit says the documentary doesn't fit Islamic values. Who gives a fuck about your Islamic values . Egyptians are Christian, actual Egyptians that is . And in that period of time they were neither. You rely on the ignorance of the western audience of these facts to further spread your lies. I guess if you lie about something long enough you finally believe it.
somehow i think it's sad to view this kind of videos because i've learned way more this way than that studied in school.
great video btw
Youve earned my subscription today.
This is one hell of a video, respect to you. Brilliantly done.
Old Lady: "Cleopatra was black."
Me: "Charlize Theron is African-American."
And Elon Musk of course.
@@klausroxin4437 For Elon Musk they believe he is alien... People today are crazy....
We wuz kweens and shiet
Well you know everyone in Africa, then also in South Africa is black. So Charlize is black, and so am I! It's as ridiculous as Charlize saying only like 44 people in the world speak Afrikaans.... ek is een van hulle. It's so stupid and insidious. I HATE when they do this.
Actually, she is a pure African, born and raised in Africa , and because that all Africans are black.. she is black also :p
“an expert in applying black feminist and critical race approaches to the study and teachings of classics”
That makes no sense whatsoever. Applying modern politics into something written way before those politics existed is something you shouldn’t do at all.
I would have more respect for her and her work if all she did was watch 80s horror movies and spend the whole time saying “why not just use her cell phone? Where is her cell phone?”
She's a soldier in the war against culture, truth, and history, an useful idiot that pushes the agenda of the regime.
What that means is.... she's an expert at altering history to suit her own needs and ideas
@@bluesageful Which is what a lot of people are trained to do in Universities, especially in the more social fields like sociology and linguistics. Psychology is a field of mines, can't tlak ablt dah fld uph uhmem jexpejinentation.
The obvious lesson has been ignored by all commentors and commentrices: when hybrids of the Beast of the Field team up with Zevites, nobody cares about truth.
Listen to Prem Rawat.
@@williamgrant1103Quite the opposite I suspect 😂
“a holocaust of truth”😭😭
This has become my favorite UA-cam channel, hands down
Like I said before, this show needs to be put as a permenant mark of SHAME on the resumes of all the woke "experts" who took part in this garbage show.
Netflix and Afrocentricity create a cultural invasion of the future. They say Cleopatra is black. People get angry with her, so they come back and say, sorry, Cleopatra is white, but the families before Cleopatra were of the black race, so we accept this in the future.
As an Egyptian, I am very sad about what is happening now because racism and aggression are being practiced against us
Because they call the Egyptians now that they are Arab invaders
I'd like to give you a little bit of history, you ignoramuses.
The Arabs trace their origins to an Egyptian mother named Hajar. Now we say that Egypt is the mother of the Arabs and the mother of the world.
So don't come now and call us invaders
All Africans know that each country has its own culture, so the ignorant person who has no history claims that the Egyptian civilization belongs to him.
An entire people is now being stripped of its identity
Is it possible to say that all the peoples of Asia are of Chinese origin?
You can say that the Latino is of Mexican race
Not just this show. Woke "experts" period.
They sure do love their "bUt tHe ExpeRts sAY"... As if no person with authority has ever been wrong, or been ideologically possessed...
Not that i expect leftists to not be naïve, it's par for the course, but still.
The fact they have the nerve to call this barrel of shameless vanity and historical misrepresentation a documentary is unbelievable to me, and I'm on the left politically.
If there is any justice in this world, Debora Heard is denied her doctorate for her participation in this pathetic revisionism.
@@Prich319 The guys who launched the idea of a black Cleopatra were pioneers of Pan-African and Africana Studies of sociology, not history of course. They spent years maybe decades teaching this lie as a fact completely ignoring the rejection of their claims from serious historians. The lie is now too deeply rooted to be removed from public consciousness.
How bad do you haveta screw up to get sued by an ENTIRE COUNTY💀💀💀
Netflix Levels of Bad
Jada levels of bad 💀
The ironic part is if she wanted to tell a story about black Africa history there is plenty of history there.
And that makes it worse because it means that they are trying to rewrite history as they know none of the crap they're saying is true and are stupid enough to believe that we will fall for it.
love ur attitude im so tired of ppl tryna sugar coat the point
It’s actually kind of sad
They could've talked about African queens and respected history, actually bringing attention to African history, something that is severely overlooked
Instead they rewrite history for politics
It's called historical revisionism. They're in the same league as Holocaust deniers.
Like Disney and the frog movie, they had to rip off a European folk tale, they couldn't promote an African one?
If they wanted a black African character, they should have made an actual documentary about Mansa Musa or Shaka Zulu! Granted, they were men so the people who made this trash would probably get offended at the very IDEA of making a movie about yet another DUDE.
@@flickcentergaming680 I half agree. This project was for African queens, not African kings. However, these are interesting figures in Africa's history, so I say they deserve their own docudrama, which coincidentally helps further the goal of these people
Because the point is to attack white americans
As an Egyptian, I applaud your bravery and thank you for your honesty. The culture war is still raging in Egypt. Afrocentrists have already started immigrating here in millions to try to "colonise" our land and our population is already large enough that our resources are hardly sufficient.
We have the same problem in Britain. You rarely see English people on the streets of London these days.
Don't overestimate this. I know it feels like it's permeated everything, but it's actually just the cultural elite, mostly in the USA.
People don't actually move in great numbers to sway politics, because most normal people seriously don't give a shit or are against this. People move because of economic interests usually and that's okay.
I'm commenting because it can be easy to slip into "great-replacement" rabbit holes and the like, but that's not true, it's a culture war, not a real one after all.
I can recommend reading Antonio Gramsci, also an Italian, about "cultural hegemony".
Even if you don't agree with him politically, these people know that concept and try to use it. It can explain a lot of what's happening in my opinion
The great replacement is about lowering the general IQ of populations so they're easier to control. The elites will be going full steam ahead with their plans after it was recently revealed how many people lack basic critical thinking ability
@@PrimeNPC Your comment was the funniest thing I read all day. But now I'm unsure whether it was on purpose
@@steffenjensen422 you think "the great replacement" is a "rabbit hole" lol when there's plain to see evidence that excessive immigration is being forced on many counties. Excessice immigration of low IQ populations. You also laugh about the general dumbing down of populations as if that isn't painfully obvious too. How do I know you're fully vaccinated and boosted?
Great video thank you for defending history. One correction tho around 36:00 ish.... At the time of the final naval battle at Actium, Octavian would have been going by his new legal name, he was 100% referred to as Julius caesar as his uncle caesar in his will in death adopted octavian, which gave him his name, so from the time at caesar's death until the defeat of Cleopatra and Antony he was legally and called by everyone Julius caesar... after he beat Antony and became "first citizen " he had the Senate change his name to Augustus Caesar and a bunch other titles
I'm also his doppelganger which is crazy. I see his statues and it's like looking in a stone mirror
Antony's invasion of Parthia was not competent in any way. His army stayed with him because there was nowhere to go, it was freezing cold, and the Parthians were on their heels. The Armenians almost certainly didn't betray him, he just miscalculated when he left his supplies relatively unprotected under the Armenians while he marched into Parthia. When the Parthians found out and destroyed all his supplies, he was forced to abandon his campaign and walk home in shame, losing half his army to starvation and the cold. His conquest of Armenia was a temper tantrum to shift the blame of his own incompetent strategy onto a foreign kingdom and to restore his pride and image.
I have a few words to say on this subject as a history buff in general, AND a lover of Roman History In particular;
1. Thank you despot for watching something that we cannot watch ourselves for our own sanity.
2. The scene where Cleopatra burns a Roman soldiers face, that NEVER would’ve happened, because if it did happen, Queen Cleopatra would not have been queen very long as that soldier was a Roman citizen, and Rome was very touchy about how you treated Roman citizens.
3. I absolutely love Augustus, he is one of my favorite Roman emperors and see him treated like this in this mockumentary, is nothing short of character assassination.
4. Cleopatra was Macedonian and no amount of fake historians, or as you call them,skintulectuals, Can say or do to change that.
Octavian seemed to me to be portrayed as Ralph Fiennes character in Schindlers List. The actor even looked like Ralph Fiennes. Also, the close ups of shackles on the children as they're led into what looks like some kind of truck was egregious. It seems to me that probably the greatest Roman of them all was portrayed straight up as a slave owning nazi officer
...and yes, I agree, I love Octavian/Augustus too
@@mitchamcommonfair9543 Which is even dumber because Cleopatra herself was a slave owner. There's also the fact that one of the main reasons that Cleopatra was able to get Caeser on her side was because Ptolmey had killed Pompey.
That and the fact that Ptolemy was HEAVILY in debt to Rome, and Cleopatra promised to pay back while Ptolemy tried to kill Caesar. I think Adrian Goldsworthy said it best; despite her fame as a seductress and the image of a strong independent woman in a man’s world, Cleopatra was nothing more than one of several Client kings that had to bow to Rome, she was nothing special
Augustus is my favorite historical figure as you can see. I knew this show sucked, but I never knew what they did to him until now. Furious.
You know.
They could have said this wasn't a documentary. Just tell the audience it's a fictional depiction of what could have happened if Cleopatra was a demigod Mary Sue character. Then yes, it would have been a mess, but no one could complain.
Because right now, it honestly looks like a fanfiction of ancient Egypt.
It's all a big false flag on their part. They intentionally mislabel it as such, and then if people point out how wrong it is, they scream "racist!" It's the same "lather, rinse, repeat" tactic of the woke patrol and narcissists to convince themselves that everyone is just like them.
It's a Western, particularly North American, attitude to go into a foreign nation and lecture them on what their history is, why they should be offended, or how they are a society of "racists" and "colonizers." Historical fact is anathema to them, and even then, they only see what they want to see. I look at people like this, and it's awful that these are the kind of people that are given a platform to speak for us. They claim to be "diverse, equitable, and inclusive," but then lecture so-called "colonizers" on what they can't wear or cook because "you're not from that culture" and that learning English is "imperialist." In a different way, they're telling you and everyone else to "stick to your own kind."
Meanwhile, they prance around doing all the things they accuse everyone else of, including this blatant attempt at cultural appropriation, but since they're "diverse, equitable, and inclusive" and therefore "get it," they think, "oh, but it's okay when we do it."
"DEI" no longer stands for "diversity, equity, and inclusion. It stands for "division, exclusion, and intolerance."
I'd say this looks like a discord RP server, but most actually have good mods
Yep. Gladiator wasn't slammed nearly as much as Braveheart, despite being just as historically inaccurate, precisely because, unlike Braveheart, Gladiator never presented itself as a true story.
The Great hasn't stirred up this kind of controversy, even though it's a ridiculously inaccurate portrayal of Catherine the Great. It works because they're very open about the fact that it's a comedy that's loosely based on a historical person and that they aren't trying at all to be realistic.
@@snowangelnc look at monthy python
The irony of this is that the show intended to be very progressive, yet it became one of the most offensive shows in all of history….
Frigging hilarious. I gotta point out @42:00- the image of the Sphinx sans nose would also (probably) be historically incorrect. While the era of and reasons for its removal remain uncertain, it would likely have still been intact during the 'reign' of Cleopatra.
(But kudos to the Despot for pointing out in his rail against Ridley Scott's Napoleon that the latter's artillery would have been mathematically incapable of shooting it off...)
Ironically, the backlash that this "documentary" got is what is actually educating people about Egypt, the Ptolemaic dynasty, and the Classical World in general, instead of the series itself so... task failed successfully hahah
I am a history student, currently writing my masters degree. What baffles me is not only the AUDACITY to ignore the hundredes of years of resesrch but «PhD» idiots WITHOUT ANY real expertise within the field of Egyptology speaking as if they have any authority on this subject. This is insane… (also Cleopatra came to me in a dream lady… what???)
Yeah, but do you have a black grandma? Because if you did, you'd already have a PHD and proof that Julius Caesar was black too. Because her grandma told her "Ain't no white man named Julius! Julius Caesar was black!"
Actually, the scholarly experts are quite real. Look them up. They just don't say what some random internet commentators say they do. The have taught the material, participated in excavations, given lectures, written relevant books, etc.
Some people have dreams, sometimes they inspire them to study or do something. Her dreams did not tell the old lady professor what results she should get.
@@patdaley9098my grandmother told me that trump is black. you cant say otherwise. deal with it
@@syafiqulaiman6950 I certainly can say otherwise.
-First, no one in the docudrama thinks Cleopatra was black. The lady does not agree with her old, dead grandma, which you would know had you actually watched it.
-Second, actress Adele James skin tone is a lightish brown. She is mixed race, not black.
-Donald Trump may have a black heart but his skin not black.
@@patdaley9098
Dude, just stfu.
You've been asserting utter nonsense in every reply you give.
The "bald faced lie" line really got me, hah.
Your vids are brilliant
Thanks. Glad you enjoy them.
I love the "We don't know who Cleopatra's mother was, we don't know who her grandmother was" line, because we do know and her (Cleopatra VII, the famous one) mother was Cleopatra V (Cleopatra VI was around a year old when she died and was Cleopatra VII's older sister), her grandmothers were Berenice III and Cleopatra IV. Cleopatra V's grandmother (Cleopatra VII's Great-Grandmother) is believed to be Cleopatra Selene I, who is Cleopatra IV's sister. Both Cleopatra Selene I and Cleopatra IV share a mother in Cleopatra III.
that must have been fun at family gatherings
Did George RR Martin name them?
With a history that "easy" I am in favor of saying "Yeah we don't know"
Goddam the level of confusion this caused my brain 😂
@@rishab0B If you think this is bad, go look at the hapsburg family tree.
@@NinjaBray oh those incestuous bunch of retards with Easter island heads?
While Velma was the first most reviled of this year, it was only the prologue of things to come later down the line
At least Velma was just an unfunny comedy and is thus harmless. This garbage claims to be historically accurate and this kind of historical revisionism is dangerous.
The thing about Velma is that the animators to intentionally draw Velma eyebrows all angry bird-ish. Why? Same thing with Korg at the end of thor love and thunder; why does grotesque animation get green lighted.
She was of Macedonian decent (some say she had a distant ancestor who was of Persian origin) and thus looked like a sun-tanned Greek\North Macedonia\Greek Cypriot.
Did they show the truth about her killing 2 of her siblings, and marrying both her brothers? How her father killed her other sister after she took his throne? How her parents were siblings and THEIR parents were siblings, and her whole family were married to multiple siblings to produce several heirs and when siblings werent available, nieces, or cousins? How only one of them married outside the family and brought in a Seleucid queen bc he had no sisters? Oh and the little fact of generational sibling and child murder, including one sibling pair in which the husband/brother killed his wife/sister 19 days into their marriage? Just wanna make sure. Regardless of race this dynasty was fcking vile.
I remember my grandmother saying to me: "I dont care what Netflix racists say, they can't rewrite history."
Perfectly represents the ideology of people who use phrases like "My truth".
And does Ruan Woodside's documentary not try to present the real Cleopatra?
@@patdaley9098 Everyone ignore this person. They’re in every comment section trying to push really hard. Seriously, DO NOT even attempt to entertain them. You can see for yourself.
You the mythology, not ideology.
@@chocolategirl2741It's a joke, with the only standing ovation being a walk to a nearby salad bar for tomatoes to throw
@@patdaley9098get back in the sewers bitch
As a german, the sentence "I don´t care what school taught you" hits different in terms if history
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This feels like it should be a crime against humanity or something. It's not as severe as destroying physical artifacts, but it's somewhere in that region.
*It is.*
Agreed
It's partly an attempt to use propaganda to degrade the honorable history of European people as a racial group.
It is potentially worse than destroying artifacts. What they're trying to do is to change history in order to suit their own needs and motivations. History might be distorted and lost for entire generations or more if done on a scale large enough. This is akin to what is done in 1984.
It's worse. It's destruction of the history behind the artifacts, and the very idea of history itself.