-UC: They tax the shit out of you -Shek: They eat all your food -Bandits: They raid you -HN: They force you to pray 😪🥱 ... -Hivers: Do you need protection from the beackthings or from the evil spirits of the mist, my friend? 😎👑🦍
The worst part of settling in Vain is eventually the nearby hive gets taken over by beak things and it's sad to see all the friendly hivers torn apart.
@@karakaaa3371 just experiencing that now with my current playthrough. 1 Hive village, 3 Beak thing nests. I really tried to help. Now they all just crawl around waiting to be eaten.
After you are done using them for protection you can easily just abuse them for combat XP and steal their ever respawning basic level resources to supplement your early development 10/10 zone best zone of all zones
It is also located nice and close to the HN if you plan on taking them out, only issue I really had was iron but I worked around that with theft on the western hive but mostly just turning squad size up for roamers and groups when I was strong enough. The real issue arises when you have hundreds of rendered corpses and have to manually transport all the items to the scrapper lol D;@@paulrogersgaming
Legit though, I think they have some kind of anti-aggro buff... I don't have any information to back this up, but I avoid detection more often than not when I sneak and have the lantern even if the character's stealth isn't high.
>Plans to abduct Western Hive Queen >Decides to retire and disbands his army of hiver gangsters in Vain after disposing the W. Hive Queen (We forced her to fetch our milk in the Fog mists) >"Great base locations..." as the world of Kenshi plunges into Purple Hiver incursions
Went there to loot the ancient library today. Had to endure a constant stream of beak things, it was rough. I don't think I'd dare making a new base there, maybe nearby one of the villages but on the Shek side of the border
Once build a retirement lodge (snailhouse) on one of the islands. Pretty cool, make it self sufficient with hydroponics, small wind turbines, nice camping spot outside etc. upside, enemies can be seen from a mile away. and you won't be bothered. downside, going to land took 5 minutes irl, and you need to bring All the materials. was fun though
From a role playing perspective, that's a perfect retirement spot. No worries about getting attacked, and if people aren't leaving/arriving frequently the swim isn't so bad.
Great video! I once had a beak thing nest spawn right next to a hiver village, literally just across the river. Everyone was getting along until I aggroed the beak things. I got to loot the nests for eggs though, so that was nice.
Good beakthing strategy: All beakthings attacks do low-moderate AOE damage to targets in front of them in their attack range and high single damage to their intended target. This is why even a small swarm of beakthings appears to squad wipe easily and consistently. Instead of grouping on beakthings, have a high defense character blocking as the bait, and move a couple guys behind it. Your blocker will take minimal damage while your hitters quickly incapacitate it. If you get a swarm, just make sure each beakthing is separated and focused on one target to allow your heavy hitters to deal one-on-one kills until you can gang up and rescue your weaker characters.
Also, unlike the Southern Hive which is aggressive and antagonistic. The Western Hive is the second friendliest faction in the game after the Crab Raiders, so long as you're nice to them and not an exiled Hiver. They also love sending Cat rich caravans to cities and player bases to trade and if you're located in Vain, you'll be the first stop! Doesn't matter there isn't Iron in the region, you do not need to be self sufficient in Vain; There you can be co-dependent with the Hivers. Trade copper and hide for Iron. Basically, you're playing a Civ game there, make friends with the locals and establish a trade network. This is also the best location for "out of the box" Freedom Seekers, if you don't want to first go to a city to tech up. No one will bother you, the Hivers will trade with you and protect you and even tier 1 base defences is enough to keep out breakthings and other wildlife as the only attack you if they see you. If you set up on the coast in the top corner, you'll also avoid pretty much everyone you'd want to avoid, including dust bandits. The only thing you really need to look out for when travelling to the Hivers and back to base is Breakthings.
This location is actually full of spots for a good base! Aside from spots you've shown, there are some other decent ones there I've found on my own. But beak things' nests there can be really annoying! They've nearly killed one of my squads of 3 40+ warriors (others were left back in Hub) and some 10-15 stat rookies.
@@paulrogersgaming I too suffered my first deaths in Vain. I think I quitted after that, feeling Kenshi was too hard for me. Now I'm back with Universal Wasteland Expansion mod and after recruiting a 20 ppl/animal squad, I thought it would be a good plan to visit the nearby hive village in Vain. Heavily encumbered a single Gorrillo wiped my entire squad lol. Not giving it up this time though!
I would unironically recommend Vain as a good getting started shack location if you started at the Hub, get Hobbs, do some iron and hungry bandit strength and toughness training, head off to get Beep, show up in vain, mine ALL ZE COPPER, sell to hivers, get backpacks, and start hauling goods between Vain and the Hub for some early capital, and further hungry and dust bandit combat training. If you feel invested it might be worth settling long term, or use your strengthened up starting crew to head out somewhere else either to settle or adventure, maybe get Beep to intentionally lose a limb or two to get Borg Beep going. I would also recommend the region for those familiar with the game, but have no idea what they are doing for settlements as its a perfect learning area for settlements in my opinion if you can handle the danger.
I love vain. It's my favorite early game base region. Perfect for leveling your armorsmith with just making animal skins to leather alone. Plus, you can level up your scientist by doing electronics, which is easier to sell than copper, when you are recovering in between adventures for research materials. Also, dont sleep on Shun for early game base. No raids. No tax. Alot of Ancient Libraries around you for early research. Plus, if you settle near the river or water, you can grow excess catcus for rum, trade that rum with the swamp, buy sake and hash there, then sell it to clownsteady/drifters last, and pickup anything you need there before returning home to complete your trade circle.
You know, the beginning of this video puzzles me. Do people really play this game like this? Mark your entire team and right click on an enemy? No.... you know... spreading your guys to avoid AoE attacks, no avoiding splash damage from multiple guys getting hit by one enemy countering, no forcing the AI to spread out in response, making the fight longer, and thus easier to micro. I guess you get more toughness this way, but you also make yourself an easier target for a random beak thing, that will casually stroll over to find multiple guys downed and one who has both his arms broken and unable to fight or heal anyone. You do you, i guess. Some people like flowers, others when their feet smell.
I agree. I'll keep tabs on it and check if I'm slowing down my pace during recording. If all else fails, I can manually increase the speed on my end. I'm blown away by how good it sounds with increased speed. Interesting.
Am I the only one who absolutely DREADS fighting gorillos? They may be slow (when they don’t run), but their attacks can staggerloop even characters with 70+ melee att, and they are really friggin’ tanky… I have the Hives Expanded and Hiver Expansion mods, which significantly buff hivers by making the villages more populated and giving both good weapons and heavy armor to them, but even with those mods about five gorillos can sizably wreck a village!
-UC: They tax the shit out of you
-Shek: They eat all your food
-Bandits: They raid you
-HN: They force you to pray 😪🥱
...
-Hivers: Do you need protection from the beackthings or from the evil spirits of the mist, my friend?
😎👑🦍
Unless they're too far south, then they sacrifice you to an ancient crimper.
Hivers are so damn friendly and fun, it's my big weakness.
The worst part of settling in Vain is eventually the nearby hive gets taken over by beak things and it's sad to see all the friendly hivers torn apart.
let us trade in the tradition of the humans!
@@karakaaa3371 just experiencing that now with my current playthrough. 1 Hive village, 3 Beak thing nests. I really tried to help. Now they all just crawl around waiting to be eaten.
What mods do you use?
Recruit Prisoners
Genesis - Map
Dark UI
Attack Slots x3
256 Squad Limit
+A handful of performance mods to lower load times
@@paulrogersgaming thanks man
After you are done using them for protection you can easily just abuse them for combat XP and steal their ever respawning basic level resources to supplement your early development 10/10 zone best zone of all zones
Totally agree! Vain doesn't get enough credit
It is also located nice and close to the HN if you plan on taking them out, only issue I really had was iron but I worked around that with theft on the western hive but mostly just turning squad size up for roamers and groups when I was strong enough.
The real issue arises when you have hundreds of rendered corpses and have to manually transport all the items to the scrapper lol D;@@paulrogersgaming
Do I spot some sarcasm when you talk about magical lanterns ? They are essential to ward off the evils in the mist.
I wouldn't dare! Even if they cost 10,000 cats, I would buy them.
You NEED the laterns.. NEED! PLEASE! HUMAN! THEY ARE A NEED IN LIFE!
Legit though, I think they have some kind of anti-aggro buff... I don't have any information to back this up, but I avoid detection more often than not when I sneak and have the lantern even if the character's stealth isn't high.
@@TheVampireAzriel I'll agree. My hash runner has a lantern and he rarely takes combat running from Fog to Flats.
Beep! 🔦
why you should NOT settle in vain:
LOAD FREEZE
i wonder if this is a problem with rainy biomes because i made a base in the great swamp and the load times make me want to kms
@@lolihitler4198vain has lots of foliage and hivers are numerous
@@lolihitler4198the reason for the swamp long load time is THE FOG
My first ever encounter with Beakthings was in Vain. Its now a no-go zone for me, and I only know it as "Beakthing Territory"
2:50 Actually, Your crops don't need water in Vain. Due to all that rain, I never had to water the crops
>Plans to abduct Western Hive Queen
>Decides to retire and disbands his army of hiver gangsters in Vain after disposing the W. Hive Queen (We forced her to fetch our milk in the Fog mists)
>"Great base locations..." as the world of Kenshi plunges into Purple Hiver incursions
Went there to loot the ancient library today. Had to endure a constant stream of beak things, it was rough. I don't think I'd dare making a new base there, maybe nearby one of the villages but on the Shek side of the border
Similar experience, had to camp inside. And then the bloodspiders visited as well 😂😂
Once build a retirement lodge (snailhouse) on one of the islands. Pretty cool, make it self sufficient with hydroponics, small wind turbines, nice camping spot outside etc.
upside, enemies can be seen from a mile away. and you won't be bothered.
downside, going to land took 5 minutes irl, and you need to bring All the materials.
was fun though
From a role playing perspective, that's a perfect retirement spot. No worries about getting attacked, and if people aren't leaving/arriving frequently the swim isn't so bad.
Great video!
I once had a beak thing nest spawn right next to a hiver village, literally just across the river. Everyone was getting along until I aggroed the beak things. I got to loot the nests for eggs though, so that was nice.
Beak thing egg money is BIG money. Thank you for watching the vid!
Good beakthing strategy:
All beakthings attacks do low-moderate AOE damage to targets in front of them in their attack range and high single damage to their intended target. This is why even a small swarm of beakthings appears to squad wipe easily and consistently.
Instead of grouping on beakthings, have a high defense character blocking as the bait, and move a couple guys behind it. Your blocker will take minimal damage while your hitters quickly incapacitate it.
If you get a swarm, just make sure each beakthing is separated and focused on one target to allow your heavy hitters to deal one-on-one kills until you can gang up and rescue your weaker characters.
You should do the southern wetlands in the grid, I was surprised by what was there. I’ll leave the rest to you
🧐 I'm gonna have to check it out now. Thanks for the suggestion!
Also, unlike the Southern Hive which is aggressive and antagonistic. The Western Hive is the second friendliest faction in the game after the Crab Raiders, so long as you're nice to them and not an exiled Hiver. They also love sending Cat rich caravans to cities and player bases to trade and if you're located in Vain, you'll be the first stop!
Doesn't matter there isn't Iron in the region, you do not need to be self sufficient in Vain; There you can be co-dependent with the Hivers. Trade copper and hide for Iron. Basically, you're playing a Civ game there, make friends with the locals and establish a trade network.
This is also the best location for "out of the box" Freedom Seekers, if you don't want to first go to a city to tech up. No one will bother you, the Hivers will trade with you and protect you and even tier 1 base defences is enough to keep out breakthings and other wildlife as the only attack you if they see you. If you set up on the coast in the top corner, you'll also avoid pretty much everyone you'd want to avoid, including dust bandits. The only thing you really need to look out for when travelling to the Hivers and back to base is Breakthings.
Hivers sell cheap Hash which you can gather up and run to the thief towers in the UC. You can run from village to village collecting it.
The wildlife and the hivers are what i remember most about my time in Vain. I also remember hanging out by the river.
This location is actually full of spots for a good base! Aside from spots you've shown, there are some other decent ones there I've found on my own.
But beak things' nests there can be really annoying! They've nearly killed one of my squads of 3 40+ warriors (others were left back in Hub) and some 10-15 stat rookies.
I have lost many characters in Vain. When I was new, I think my first death was in Vain too. BUT, like you said, it's got good land 👍
@@paulrogersgaming I too suffered my first deaths in Vain. I think I quitted after that, feeling Kenshi was too hard for me. Now I'm back with Universal Wasteland Expansion mod and after recruiting a 20 ppl/animal squad, I thought it would be a good plan to visit the nearby hive village in Vain. Heavily encumbered a single Gorrillo wiped my entire squad lol. Not giving it up this time though!
The rain in vain atays mostly in the plains
I would unironically recommend Vain as a good getting started shack location if you started at the Hub, get Hobbs, do some iron and hungry bandit strength and toughness training, head off to get Beep, show up in vain, mine ALL ZE COPPER, sell to hivers, get backpacks, and start hauling goods between Vain and the Hub for some early capital, and further hungry and dust bandit combat training. If you feel invested it might be worth settling long term, or use your strengthened up starting crew to head out somewhere else either to settle or adventure, maybe get Beep to intentionally lose a limb or two to get Borg Beep going.
I would also recommend the region for those familiar with the game, but have no idea what they are doing for settlements as its a perfect learning area for settlements in my opinion if you can handle the danger.
My prayers have been answered
Is Narko or is Okran to be praised? That is the real question we all must answer.
I love vain. It's my favorite early game base region. Perfect for leveling your armorsmith with just making animal skins to leather alone. Plus, you can level up your scientist by doing electronics, which is easier to sell than copper, when you are recovering in between adventures for research materials.
Also, dont sleep on Shun for early game base. No raids. No tax. Alot of Ancient Libraries around you for early research. Plus, if you settle near the river or water, you can grow excess catcus for rum, trade that rum with the swamp, buy sake and hash there, then sell it to clownsteady/drifters last, and pickup anything you need there before returning home to complete your trade circle.
You're the first to mention Shun. I was wondering if someone would bring it up. 👍
You know, the beginning of this video puzzles me. Do people really play this game like this? Mark your entire team and right click on an enemy? No.... you know... spreading your guys to avoid AoE attacks, no avoiding splash damage from multiple guys getting hit by one enemy countering, no forcing the AI to spread out in response, making the fight longer, and thus easier to micro.
I guess you get more toughness this way, but you also make yourself an easier target for a random beak thing, that will casually stroll over to find multiple guys downed and one who has both his arms broken and unable to fight or heal anyone.
You do you, i guess. Some people like flowers, others when their feet smell.
Vain is so damn good if using the Genesis mod, they added another Town and you can buy a 3 story warehouse within that town.
So who else randomly found one of this guys videos and discovered Kenshi as a result?
My base? It was all in Vain...
Only thing is how do I turn the rain off! :(
Love this channel keep up the good work mate!
Thank you kind sir!
The rain in vain is a pain when from Spain. Should i explain? Don't complain
Dude as an ancap i don't like democracy as well.
Your videos and voice sound
better on 1.5 speed, maybe just put them like that by default? Try listening to it
I agree. I'll keep tabs on it and check if I'm slowing down my pace during recording. If all else fails, I can manually increase the speed on my end. I'm blown away by how good it sounds with increased speed. Interesting.
Oh I see it now nice
East.....i mean West
Exciting!
keep it up
LETS GOOOOOOO
Am I the only one who absolutely DREADS fighting gorillos? They may be slow (when they don’t run), but their attacks can staggerloop even characters with 70+ melee att, and they are really friggin’ tanky… I have the Hives Expanded and Hiver Expansion mods, which significantly buff hivers by making the villages more populated and giving both good weapons and heavy armor to them, but even with those mods about five gorillos can sizably wreck a village!
bro imagine if you had thought for like 2 seconds before deciding to disregard your communities poll
Hello Mormon! The rationale for creating a video on Vain before the Cannibal Plains is explained in the first minute of the episode.
oh i'm sorry, i meant imagine if you had thought correctly for 2 seconds before disregarding your communities poll@@paulrogersgaming
seriously though looking at the analytics you secured a ton of hype on those first videos, are you sure it was insignificant?@@paulrogersgaming