Many thanks go out to 🏆#Georgios over at 🏆#quippr for getting a hold on these CPUs for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩 What would you consider the biggest improvements, as well as downsides here? 🤔😅
I think I'll hold onto my 12700. It does what I need it to do. if I'm going to spend a ton of money, I want a ton of performance improvements and not just high temperatures and a big power draw.
Nope, only on 100% full load, like rendering and stuff, the power draw is gonna be insane. I don't think games is gonna use all 100% CPU usage, NOR at idle. In fact, idling on desktop, it's can go single digit value.
@@rattlehead999 Why don't use use your CPU usage at 100% on idle--fill up the usage chart, fill up your system RAM to the max that it forces to swap out to SSD. Fill up your SSD to the max, and best to waste the write cycle too!
I am very pleased with this comparison video because in early 2022 i build my son a new PC with the i7 12700k, GSkill Trident Z5 DDR5 32Gb 2x16 CL36 and an Asus Rog Strix Z690-F 😄
Obviously the TOTAL System Power Draw is higher, because you achieve more fps. And that means your gpu is working more. So no, the 13th does not draw 50% more power
Good Video! One thing I miss here: You also should have tested the CPUs with the same Clockspeed. With that, we could have seen how much Raptor Lake is faster Clock for Clock...
Good video to come back to. I originally had a 12700k, and upgraded to 14900k back in April 2024. Following the debacle on 13th- and 14th gen chips, I returned my 14900k. The replacement 12700k is now being overclocked with maxed settings with performance comparable to 14th gen. Plus there is a huge benefit on power comsumption and overheating. Happy with going back to 12th gen however I will be switching to AMD in 2025. I have had bad experiences with AMD compatability and overheating in the past, however Intel has forced my hand.
I got a 13700k coming to replace my 12700k. Wondering if this chip is gonna do the same performance up-lift when de-clocking the E-Cores. Gonna tinker with this and see... Excited. 12700k been a good chip there is a up-lift for sure!
I have the same AIO than you and i cant use 253W without Thermal Throttles with my 13700k. But, if you want a right Battle between these CPU, why dont you block the 13700k at the same TDP (190w) ?
Intel had to do a 20% IPC uplift on Raptor Lake and keep the 3.4-3.8GHz range for the e-cores. Power draw increases by a lot once you go past 3.8GHz. Making e-cores that run at 4.2GHz and P-cores way beyond 5GHz kinda kills the entire purpose of Big-Little on x86.
The 13700K has good perfomance, but it's an 12900K 2.0 after alll, efficency is bad making that chip very impractical for a lot of people. I would recommend a Ryzen 9 7900 over that chip.
Great, very detailed and informative review! Unfortunately the upgrade is not really worth it for me personally. I have a 12700k but i dont know how to have it unlocked i wanna use its full potential in gaming i want to activate its turbo boost mode so it can draw as much power and to put as much load on itself as possible if it is needed, any idea how can i do that ?
It turbos on its own. There isn't much overclocking headroom on the 12700k since it runs pretty hot and uses 230 watt, 250 to 270 when turboing and being overclocked. What kind of cpu cooler you using? You might be talking about thermal throttling where your processor slows down to cool off. Or lowers voltage. You do all this in the motherboard bios or in the app that the motherboard may have come with for easy basic overclocking.
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Many thanks go out to 🏆#Georgios over at 🏆#quippr for getting a hold on these CPUs for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩
What would you consider the biggest improvements, as well as downsides here? 🤔😅
I think I'll hold onto my 12700. It does what I need it to do. if I'm going to spend a ton of money, I want a ton of performance improvements and not just high temperatures and a big power draw.
I'm sure the water cooling companies want to to upgrade to 1000 watt PCs.
i got my 12700k for $200 less then the 13700k i think i made the right descision
Same. Just got mine brand new on Amazon for 215
@@Tanzu15Same with the coupon it was a great deal.
Got mine for $176 through a Microcenter bundle, feelsgood
@@dentyo5238 damn bro! That’s a steal!!
Got my bundle in 2022 and still not used it. Still new in box. I put it for sale to get the 7800x3d. My bundle at the time cost me $330
1:49 i dont agree to this, so won't watch. Should test both on the same Mobo, same everything.
I don't know what camera you have. But, the CPU product shot at 8:22 looks amazing.
Great review as always. IMO the power consumption is insane on 13th gen CPUs, anything over an i5 13400f IMO consumes way too much power.
Nope, only on 100% full load, like rendering and stuff, the power draw is gonna be insane. I don't think games is gonna use all 100% CPU usage, NOR at idle. In fact, idling on desktop, it's can go single digit value.
Thank you very much!
If all goes according to plan, I will also be reviewing those cheaper Raptor Lake SKUs in the near future. :)
@@AlfaPro1337 You don't build a PC with the idea of not using 100% of it.
@@Nicolas11x12English looking forward to it :)
@@rattlehead999 Why don't use use your CPU usage at 100% on idle--fill up the usage chart, fill up your system RAM to the max that it forces to swap out to SSD. Fill up your SSD to the max, and best to waste the write cycle too!
I am very pleased with this comparison video because in early 2022 i build my son a new PC with the i7 12700k, GSkill Trident Z5 DDR5 32Gb 2x16 CL36 and an Asus Rog Strix Z690-F 😄
Nice! :D
W dad
What graphics card did you get.
Obviously the TOTAL System Power Draw is higher, because you achieve more fps. And that means your gpu is working more.
So no, the 13th does not draw 50% more power
Good Video! One thing I miss here: You also should have tested the CPUs with the same Clockspeed. With that, we could have seen how much Raptor Lake is faster Clock for Clock...
Good video to come back to. I originally had a 12700k, and upgraded to 14900k back in April 2024. Following the debacle on 13th- and 14th gen chips, I returned my 14900k. The replacement 12700k is now being overclocked with maxed settings with performance comparable to 14th gen. Plus there is a huge benefit on power comsumption and overheating. Happy with going back to 12th gen however I will be switching to AMD in 2025. I have had bad experiences with AMD compatability and overheating in the past, however Intel has forced my hand.
What would you buy today if you wanted to build a pc? 7800x3d?
Yeah, my personal choice would most likely be the 7800X3D. :)
I would like to see how the power draw of the 13700f compares to the 13700K.
some old games consume around 90w to 100w. but newest games with RT enable will consume up to 150w.
I got a 13700k coming to replace my 12700k. Wondering if this chip is gonna do the same performance up-lift when de-clocking the E-Cores. Gonna tinker with this and see... Excited. 12700k been a good chip there is a up-lift for sure!
How did it fair after you declocked it?
Why would I De-clock it? 14900k replaced it now. 13700k in capture machine. Sold my 5950x @@harryhasselhoff9692
I have the same AIO than you and i cant use 253W without Thermal Throttles with my 13700k.
But, if you want a right Battle between these CPU, why dont you block the 13700k at the same TDP (190w) ?
Which aio
I wonder if the 13700k would be able to be cooled by the 420mm arctic liquid freezer(3x140m fans)
Isnt even 13600k is better than 12700k?
They are about the same
Intel had to do a 20% IPC uplift on Raptor Lake and keep the 3.4-3.8GHz range for the e-cores. Power draw increases by a lot once you go past 3.8GHz.
Making e-cores that run at 4.2GHz and P-cores way beyond 5GHz kinda kills the entire purpose of Big-Little on x86.
60% more power consumption for 33% performance increase? i think i pass i would wait more years
Lol just got a 12700k from Amazon brand new this week for 215. Shits all over the 13th gen in value.
same. will upgrade to the 14700k in a couple years when the price drops by half. Good mhz increase and 8 more e-cores than 12700k.
@@mitchmurray2260Just got an i7-12700kf, this thing will do me until 15th gen at least.
What cpu cooler are you using
Not really fair comparison, as raptor lake has a much better mc controll. With APEX board you can reach 8000 mhz on memory.
If Intel did a 20% IPC increase on Raptor Lake vs Alder Lake, overpriced RAM isn't needed.
could use the 12th gen CPU in the z790 mobo for better test :D
thanks bro i was waiting for this review
You're welcome and thanks! :)
Wow, I watched a few videos and more powerful CPU result in small FPS gains, im sticking with my 14400f and 4070 Super combo
Even your 14400f has minimal gains over a 12700k 😂.
The 13700K has good perfomance, but it's an 12900K 2.0 after alll, efficency is bad making that chip very impractical for a lot of people.
I would recommend a Ryzen 9 7900 over that chip.
Excellent!
Thank you!
too hot
Great, very detailed and informative review! Unfortunately the upgrade is not really worth it for me personally.
I have a 12700k but i dont know how to have it unlocked i wanna use its full potential in gaming i want to activate its turbo boost mode so it can draw as much power and to put as much load on itself as possible if it is needed, any idea how can i do that ?
It turbos on its own. There isn't much overclocking headroom on the 12700k since it runs pretty hot and uses 230 watt, 250 to 270 when turboing and being overclocked. What kind of cpu cooler you using? You might be talking about thermal throttling where your processor slows down to cool off. Or lowers voltage. You do all this in the motherboard bios or in the app that the motherboard may have come with for easy basic overclocking.
An upgrade from 1 gen to the gen immediately after it is never really worth it.
i'm waiting for 14th gen after seeing this video :)