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DON'T BUY the i9 12900K! 👉 Intel i7 13700k Review
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Intel 13700k vs 12900k - Why the i7 is secretly an i9. [The 12900k killer]
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0:00 What's missing in the box?
0:43 Sponsored segment
1:04 Hold on buying 12900k!
1:30 What CPUs are we comparing?
1:42 12700k = 12900k but better - Specs
3:01 Price comparison
3:54 Z690 motherboard testing issue
4:27 test bench setup
5:33 Memory controller - IMPRESSIVE
6:40 Ultimate Power Consumption video
7:05 What does MAX POWER consumption mean?
7:47 Cinebench R23
8:28 Geekbench 5
8:49 Blender
9:59 Adobe Photoshop
10:25 Lightroom Classic
10:47 Premiere Pro
13:19 After Effects
14:12 Davinci Resolve
14:28 13700k benchmark BUG
15:39 Davinci Resolve Comparison
17:38 V-Ray
18:05 🤯 Power Efficiency
21:05 Why is Intel not telling us this???
21:45 Power efficiency in LRC
23:17 Conclusion - Intel shot themselves in the foot.
24:12 When to choose 7900x instead?
24:30 Only 8-Performance cores?
25:00 When to choose 13700k?
25:16 What to choose for 3D?
25:47 Final thing to consider
26:16 Best-Bang-For-Buck PC buying guide
I did buy the 13700K but that I bought it a month and a half ago and yes for the reasons you mentioned. thanks for confirming my choice with realistic and reliable info. videos like yours offer so much info that makes making decisions so much easier. thank you
How's your 13700k? Is it still fine? Does it crash? I'm curious with all the intel 13th and 14th gen issues seeing you had it for a year.
@@siphi7583 mine is running well no undo crashing. but it is not my daily computer. I do need to run some stress tests to actually know.
I chose the 13700K for my new build for a host of reasons, many of them covered here. Since I do not do "drop-in" upgrades on the same board, Socket 1700 being end of life had no bearing. Another reason: I suffered through the teething issues of AM4 and chose to let others Beta test AM5.
I landed om this webpage because I edit photos and don't play games. It is very hard to find a channel devoted to the creator and not the gamer. We have different hardware needs. I use 64gb of RAM and Intel integrated graphics. Gamers do not use 64gb of RAM and use dedicated graphics. You have a good point that Intel uses less power overall even though other channels fixate on the maximum power use of Intel even though you never or rarely use peak power, gamers especially. Benchmarks are informative as far as they go. Some benchmarks don't matter much to creators though. I export photos at night when I am in bed. The passive Lightroom score does not mean that much to me. Editing time, the active score means a lot to me, because that is my time. The 13th gen Intel is a lot faster in the passive score, but not much faster in the active score. When I built a new computer I used 12th generation because it saved me a couple of hundred bucks. Maybe you should include more live use examples and talk about how it feels to use. Some benchmarks in live use matter more than others.
He did it for the 13600k but not for the but not for the 13700 or 13900 loved his I5 video but I wanted something that would last a bit longer than a i5 but there are literal no videos just bench marks
You actually made me sooo happy. I have a brand new build i7 13th gen, fury ram and a (discounted) 3090 plus a z790 MB. FOMO gone until Christmas.. and I dont live in the US.All for under 2000 euros.. I would have not have done it without your channel. Keep up the great work!
Great analysis on the 13700K. It is so, so impressive and basically a 12900K +++ with better efficiency. More importantly, the power usage is excellent and those efficiency cores are making a huge difference. Overall power consumption on actual real world workloads more than balances out against AMD's 7000 series and on idle so much better as the E cores are doing most of the low-level background tasks saving power.
Makes me wonder how much power CPUs will use in the future. Seems it willing slowly increase. I hear 14th gen will drop the hybrid cores & go all performance cores. Will be on smaller node tho which will be more efficient
If powersaving is an important aspect for you, you should really look into undervolting your CPU. The 12900k undervolted is the most efficient CPU I have ever owned. You can throttle the powerdraw bei 30-50% on peak draw and still retain 95%-90% of the performance. It also runs a lot cooler like a 10C° delta. Really wondering why intel is shooting themselves in the foot right here when the only thing that they have to do is optimising the core voltage
@@MrNo0p This sounds more like power limiting than undervolting. Undervolting doesn't lower performance, on the contrary. And I believe AMD owns the efficiency crown.
I was planning to go for the 13900K at first but eventually settled with this build. My first PC build from start to end. I thought for a first build to go with the less hotter CPU. Installing CPU and IAO were by biggest anxiety.
I7 13700K
Z690E Strix
Ryujin II 360 IAO
Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 1200W
Corsair Dominator 32Gb DDR5 6200
3090TI - I think i am going to go with AMD's XTX when it launches. Hope it surpasses the 4080.
011Dynamic Evo
7 Phanteks T30 - 3 Noctua PPC industrial.
Love the video. Just a constructive recommendation opinion on the benchmarking results with the overlay background. The “red“ results can be hard to see, you could use white or white opacity transparency effect just behind the red scores or all scores or get rid of moving background. Hopefully makes viewing the benchmarks more easier to see.
Thanks for the tip! I might lower the background brightness even more and make the red brighter :)
I have a 12 and my friend has the 13 and he constantly blue screens/crashes on multiple games when I have no issue… very strange
Yeah it is widely reported 13th and 14th gen are a dud, 12th gen is stable and has good quality silicon, your friend would have to undervolt underclock their cpu so try to mitigate degradation but essentially it will just slow it down, 13th and 14th gen are doomed on a premature death because of intel.
I just build myself a new rig with a 13700KF a week ago and cant be happier. Upgrading from a 10700k and gained 30+ fps in world of warcraft which is the only game i play. Only thing I tweaked is turning on xmp to have the ram work at the advertising speed. No overclocking yet. I roll on a noctua nh-d15 and actually used a thermalright antibending plate. My temps are reaching 65-70c while playing. Not sure if temps are ok but i do plan to overclock abit like i always do but i read some people say its not necessary with this processor. Will investigate on it soon.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Did you collect sentences from the comment section. My god 😮
I've been debating for a while which CPU and when to upgrade, whether with a 13th gen Intel CPU, or wait for 14th gen. I already figured what you showed in your video, that the 13700K beats the 12900K, so thanks for making this timely video. Regarding whether to go with the 13700K or 13900K, I'm leaning towards the 13700K with the performance being enough for me, and the small single core performance boost with the 13900K not being really worth the extra money and heat.
I recently saw some rumors about the Intel 14th gen (Meteor Lake), stating that they will only max out at 6-PCores, which would likely mean the 14th gen flagship CPU would be comparable to a 13900K. Well, even though it's just a rumor, that made up my mind that the next gen will likely be totally lackluster and it's time to upgrade my system with 13th gen and not waste time waiting for the next gen, with the new socket and likely a noticeable price bump for CPU and motherboards.
So 13700K it is.
Go for the 13700k it's a much better CPU for the money with respect power draw and performance is very close. This CPU is one of the best Intel has ever made. It made AMD cut the price on the 7900x and 7950x as the 13700k was competing well with both CPU and beating the 7900x consistently. The issue with the i9 is it consumes so much power and it doesn't pull away from the 13700k as it's always close to the i9 13900k desktop performance and almost identical in gaming while consuming less electricity.
I just built t today, i7 13700k, ddr5 32gb 5200 Corsair vengeance, Rtx 3080 ti oc, evga supernova 850gt, msi mag tomahawk ddr5 mobo, deep cool ls720, Corsair 4000d airflow, Samsung 980 500gb ssd, I got 30400 score on multiple core cinebench 23, and 2100 on single core, did gpu stress test for 10min, temps went 73, cpu stress temps were 84, yet to play games on it, I really happy with the pc, took me 6hrs to assemble.
Doubt the whole thing.
Love my 13700k. Undervolted to 1.25vcore and scoring 30k in CB23. Destroys my previous 12700k
Perhaps I'm on the low low low low end of the users here, but I would like to see reviewers including more alternatives to adobe software, like Affinity and Capture One. Although I know Adobe is pretty much standard, more and more people are jumping the boat away from the monopoly. Great video as always.
13700k has been running smoothly for the past two months since I first booted up my newly built PC and I hope it stays that way. And yet, all this recent talk about high rates of 13 and 14th cpu failure/degradation is a bit concerning, to say the least. Mind sharing your experience with this specific chip a year later? Is the 13700k also "doomed"?
You go way beyond the standard reviews available, much appreciated! Very useful info on the the average power consumption. I have the Ryzen 9 5900x, and use Lightroom a lot, with a lot of passive use--big exports. It is very good, but sometimes I'd like better. I will likely upgrade to the i7 13700K in near future.
Thanks for making me aware of this. Even more so since 13700k is only 379 dollars at my micro center right now and 12900k is 100 dollars more.
I bought the 13600k couple weeks ago because it sounded like its better than a 12700k but cheaper. Been super happy with it so far, and barely uses full power for high end games and 3d modeling
I am thinking in buying the 13600k as well but i have being doubting if i should go for the 13700k since i am a software developer and usually i need to run multiple developments at the same time, I think I am going to buy the 13600k and look at its performance while doing my tasks and look how much cpu it consumes
@@carloscorrea260
Same thing what should i choose ?
13600k or 700k ?
700k is more difficult to cool than 600k
@@salemgx1963 I end up buying the 700k but realize that the 600k would have been perfect for me, keep in mind that the difference in energy consumption is a huge when it comes to your your energy bill, i am cooling the 700k with a noctua nh D-15 and it works perfectly
The 13700K was the CPU I went with. At worse, it was listed as being a 12900K with a slight overclock on top of it. Which was more than enough for me to pull the trigger at the price they were going for at launch.
with a better IMC as well. The 12th gen had very poor IMCs leading to memory instability at XMP settings...
Which motherboard you are using with 13700k.
I love how you just show the comparison and let us choose the one that we need the most, thanks for your work.
I love my 13700k, it’s a monster but needs more cooling than I have currently.
What cooler are you currently use?
@@devarmax a 280mm nzxt, for normal work and content creation it’s fine, but it will thermal throttle in cinebench.
@@TheRealLawnFather Surprised, I would have thought the 280mm AIO would be more than good enough. I am using a 360mm AIO and have no issues with 80 degree max temps in Cinebench R23 with over a 31K score and that's with a small overclock to 5.3 all P cores and 4.4GHz all e cores though on an offset voltage. Do you live in a hot country, is your case a mesh type airflow case? A little tinkering in BIOS may set things right..
@@vMaxHeadroom I’m all stock settings, using a b660 board so no settings to REALLY change things in the bios. I got around 29k in cinebench r23, using a push/pull config. In a lian lol o11d mini case. I’m not in love with the case and I’ve been thinking about changing the case up a little.
@@TheRealLawnFather IT is normal BC you set (Or motherboar set) no power limit. Just set power limit and you dont lose any performance on cinebanch and you dont have 100c. Also cheak bclk normal value is 100. In my gigabyte deflaut was be 103,5 - it is OC value. My clook go to 6hz insted 5.8 and have hight coltage core. I set to 100.
13700k was perfect for me. I went from 3rd gen 3820 and a cheap used 3930k to 13700k. I carried over a 1080ti and a noctua d15, using a thermalright frame now. I'm still just amazed at what it can do, and how much control that I have. Out of box R23 was 30001 and it hit 97c. I have barely messed with anything, but my cpu got to 5.4 all and 5.8 on the best 2 cores without adding voltage.
Temps were a little too crazy for me, I just wanted to hit 31k in R23 really fast. Im just now messing around with a nice undervolt and I feel like this is how they should be. I lost barely any performance even in synthetic benchmarks with a -.190 voltage offset. 5.3 on 6 cores, 5.4 on the best 2. Dropped from 97 in one run to 81c after the 10 minute throttle test.
It really seems like every single chip can significantly reduce the voltage offset and run the same clocks, I just wonder why they're set on kill. I mean it pretty much requires high end liquid cooling to not throttle. Manufacturers are just in a race to cherry pick numbers from their own set of benchmarks so they can put them on a bar graph without any labels or something.
Man I've been waiting for somebody to review the i7. Picked it up the first week because the 13600k is a beast, and the 13700k is the same but 2 more p cores for $100. Super worth it.
Love your content man, you're my first reviewer to check out every time something new drops. I have a question, do you think it's worth upgrading to a 13900k or 13700k from a 12700K? I work mainly in Davinci Resolve, Media Encoder and a little in Premier for stabilizing. Upgraded to the 4090 after I saw your review on it and saw a massive difference in Davinci. Absolutely life changing coming from a 2060 super. I have a 360 AIO, 1000watt platinum PSU, Z690 MOBO - so have all the components to just slap in a new Intel CPU. I work exclusively with 8k RED Raw, although I never export or have an 8k timeline except for screen grabs. That said, from your videos I know an AMD CPU would have been a slightly better option. However, not going down that road of having to buy a new MOBO just to get a CPU with a slight edge. Also currently only have 2x 16GB DDR5 5600. Waiting for 2x 32GB DDR5 6000+ to become available in my country and will then upgrade to that. Curious to know if having 64GB running at XMP will work better with the 13th Gen over the 12 Gen. Would love to hear your thoughts or anyone else with experience in this. Keep up the good work!
Hey there.. I just gave up on trying to get my 12900K to run stable. I've swapped everything BUT the CPU. Watching some other stuff, I'm convinced that mine has a "not great" memory controller and just hangs. I'm picking up a 13700K tomorrow and look forward to dropping it into my system. It was on sale for $345 at bestbuy.. we'll see if that gets it done.
Thanks for the video.
Cheers
Rick
Cheers bro! finally make up my mind to replace my 2700x to 13700k! And still rocking with 1080ti, hopefully will replace that in 2 years
You are a legend m8. I'm rocking a i5-4460, gtx970, and I'm at the end. I feel I gotta upgrade. Way to milk everything out of that system!
@@12463trf yep!
Yes, very interested in power consumption video! max,idle,average.
i´m a 3d artist. I'm working with 3ds max and corona renderer but i'm slowly learning UE5 (in the future i will work with this two tools). Beside of grafic card, what CPU and Motherboard i should buy (and some alternatives )?
Im considering a 12900 only because its cheaper then a 13600 second hand. But im stuck with ddr5 ram so 13th gen is still tempting.
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Sporting a 13700k with the fury beast DDR5 64gb 5200 and it's an absolute beast paired with the Z690-I ROG STRIX from Asus. Those 24 threads are a joy to have. i'm using 2 x 990 Pro 2TB in both PCIe Gen4 M.2 slots.
Yeah, when I saw I the price of 13700k was significantly cheaper than the 12900k and had better specs I was confused at first but over time it made more sense. Also if I already have a 12900k should I upgrade to the 13700k when the time is right or go all out and just get the 13900k?
I'd go straight to 13900k when the price is right ;)
12900k will be good for a few years. Won’t be much uplift going to 13900k & the insane power draw. Just upgrade to new platform when needed
@@mikeramos91 ok thank you
12900k and 13700k is about 10% difference. Definitely jump to 13900k or a new platform when you’re ready to upgrade
Awesome video! I hope you review and compare the 7900xtx for productivity workloads compared to a 4090 to see if AMD really did fix their productivity performance or not.
It would be super valuable for someone like me who wants to use my computer for both work and play
So much so! Same! Bump this comment up!
Though I'm thinking I may go 13700kf, cause I don't intend on overclocking it, and if 7900xtx can't bring the heat, I may go 3080..... 4000 series is just BLEGH
@@12463trf you want the normal 13700k due to quicksync! No matter how good your GPU is, quicksync will boost your performance
I got the 13700kf I only game and do CPU work. On a MSI z690 was able to put it at 5.6ghz all P and 4.5ghz E core. That’s max it can do without de lid. I was able to hit 5.7-5.8 but it needs a de lid for that. Amazing performance and when I’m gaming it’s only pulling 40-70watts. Full OC load at 1.28v I’m pulling 240 watts about 100w less than my 5.3 ghz 11900kf at full load.
i really like how you showing power sonsumption at 100% utilization because i running programs which can do that if you desire (some computing boring stuff) and that is important when i choosing PSU for my setup
Wow you're right. Thanks for the heads up!
Good info! Besides price, any advantage to getting the 13700k vs 13900k?
less power consumption/heat
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I have no Option on Davinci for Intel Codec processing for the Timeline in the Decode Options. I think thats all Keywords......
You have an idea?
Great Content btw.
love it!
Thank you so much for your super informative and useful videos. I learned a lot within few months thanks to you.
Which cooler both AIO and air cooler would you suggest for both 13700k and 13900k? Photo editing for now and video editing in the nearest future.
Wish you lots of success!
Eagerly waiting for each and every video of yours.
Best regards ✨️
The bad thing about this new gen is the CPU temperature. I had to put the watt limit consumption to 190 Watts (short duration power limit) and 180 (long duration power limit) for my 13700k. The score in Cinebench R23 was only 5.66% less (with multi-core only, because single core performance is just the same): from 30,334 to 28,617 (and single core: 2,035). So there is no difference in "the real world".... I won't notice that 5.66% while working but I will on that -13°C (I use Asus ROG Ryujin II 240mm).
I just got the i7 1300k as you recommended, along with all the upgrades for the do it all computer on your video, but I got 4 sticks of Corsar Vengance 32 GB DDR5 5200MHz. Will this work ok for video editing?. I have seen on another of your videos that it can be a big problem, I wonder if with this CPU will work fine, or I should stay with 64 on RAM
I'm getting the 13900k and 4090, thanks for the heads up from you and others
I was just thinking about those two processors, thanks for the help :)
Thanks! Based on this video, I returned my unopened 12900k and bought the 13700k at microcenter for $379 -- $70 cheaper then the 12900k!
Nice review. Can you do a review for 13700k and 4080 combination. I feel like that is the sweetspot combination for now.
$1200 4080 not worth it
once you get an aftermarket aib 4080... not so much the sweet spot as entering the highest tier of pricing for the not-highest performance.
5:39 i dont think all that difference in hardware for the AMD is fair. Should use same hardware on both with just the Mobo and CPU being the only difference for obvious reasons. Every brand of SSD and memory performs differently. PSU is also important in how it delivers power.
4:06 raptor lake runs fine in z690 but at least on Asus motherboards you are required to update the management engine from within windows (before installing raptor lake if you can) to the latest one on Asus’ website. Asus release notes doesn’t explain the process unfortunately. Asus is at fault for its poor communication on this issue.
But once you apply the management engine update, and update to bios 2103, raptor lake will run just fine in z690. I know because I have the 13900K boosting to 6 GHz (under lightly threaded conditions) in an Asus z690 formula board. Also, I Tweaked the all-core boost voltages to a much lower level than the Asus stock voltage… to reduce power consumption under all core workloads temps went from 100C to 80C. The stock voltages are waaaaay too high and require manual tuning.
hi - and thanx! idle consumption is VERY interesting .. pc is - depending on use - on average mostly running in idle for @ least 50% of the time or even more. so this is a really important point.
best cpu
This video did not age well lol
There is some serious problem with the Ryzen X-series. My Ryzen 5700G(Monolithic die unlike X Series) idles at around 3.5 watts and my older Intel i7 4790 idles as low as 1.67 watts which is absolutely mad. My only reason for going with the Ryzen G-Series was Idle power draw.
You have done it again 🤩 great video.
hey this info is good for me thanks for the help i am getting ready to make my new pic soon this year and this helps a lot thanks !!
How does it compare to the 12600K price/performance wise?
Would be interesting
The 13700K is $379 at Microcenter and they'll give you $20 off the on motherboard of your choice if need a motherboard
just an insane value
$329 now, plus $25 off coupon for first time buyer. About to buy later today :D
Well, now this should be taken down, eh? :-S
For someone like me that leave the pc on almost 24/7 and have burst of loads this is really important information. Why does no one talk about idle power consumption more??? Can I cool
a 13700k with a good air cooler?
Got a 12700k/w z690 Asus TUF wi-Fi for $350 and a 11700k/w z590 Asus TUF wi-Fi for $200 in the last month and a half at Microcenter!
Fast forward to now when the 12900k IS cheaper. Amazon lists the 12900k for almost 10% less than the 13700k, and the Microcenter bundles are 25% cheaper! None of these tests show 25% lower performance, on any metric. Does this video have any relevance now that the relative prices have completely swapped?
I'm wanting to build a rig that can edit basic 4K video smoothly in davinci but without a graphics card for now. I'm thinking if either the 13th gen i7 or i5 with fast DDR5 ram. Is there a BIG difference in this use case between the i7 and i5? Thx
Did you get the new nvidia drivers? They fixed some performance isues with w11 22h2.
Hey! So I’m building my first setup . (This is my first and starting setup) I got the asus z690 prime-a motherboard. I7-13000k CPU and Vengance Ram ddr5 5600Mhz C36. So the setup doesn’t boot it shows DRAM yellow led. I’m trying to solve the issue and wanted to know if you have any info. that is it the bios update problem that it doesn’t recognise the 13gen cpu? Or is something else. I would be happy for any information or knowledge about this issue.
Thank you very much in advance.
I like what you did with the asus laptop in the background.. Neat way of telling the viewers to sub 😌👌
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Super agree with the video, anybody remotely glancing at the 12900K needs to just get this CPU instead. And heck, most people might be even better with a 13600K also.
I have also z690 pro art (flashed bios via usb stick before first boot to be 13th gen ready) and 13700k and with a little undervolt of -80mV it runs the cinebench without a throttle by full mhz on all cores (cpu cooler noctua nh u 12 a)
What temps do you get in cinebench?
@@eghoyst max 80 C (without undervolt above 100C), idle around 35-40C
Brother! Which camera do you have. Real crispy quality
In the description :)
Fr bro i get rtx2060 used like new 200 dollar + and intell i9 12900k used 370 dollar only,and i get 700w psu,asus motherboard,16gbram,500gb ssd,2tb hdd,rgb fan and casing set,all total is 610 dollar only
@thetechnotice i am a 3d architecture visualizer works in 3ds max corona and vray.. Pls tell me should i buy amd or intel?
I really like the idea of idle power consumption being significantly lower than ryzen. However, when rendering a feature length film, with full color grading and vfx we should be looking at overall energy used vs time taken to render. The 125W max power consumption of a ryzen 5950x seems more reasonable than the nearly 250W max power draw from the 13700k in this case. Though we limit ourselves by not utilizing DDR5. It’s really a matter of what you can get for a certain deal. I went ryzen am4 back in January because ddr4 ram and motherboards were less expensive. Choosing your cpu is definitely based on scenario and workflow/load. Personally I’m happy with my 5950x work rig for the years to come. I have. 12400f in my gaming rig, and I think if I ever wanted to upgrade cpu, I’d try to grab the 13700k at a good used price.
For the record, I started this year with the overpriced 5600g, then found a 5950x new for $400. And a 32gb ram kit (3200mhz) for $50. You damn well know I had to grab em haha
Ok. Please forgive me if I got this wrong. But in the puget for premiere pro (higher is better)
I see an error
Gpu
You have the 13700k at 115.5 for gpu and the 12900k at 120.1 yet you have it in red.
What gives.. ?
Excellent presentation! And based on your presentation and recommendation I purchased Intel i7 13700. But could you kindly tell me why your are using Asus Pro Art Z690 board instead of the Asus Pro Art Z790 boatd? Thanks again and continued success to you and your channel.
Coz it's cheaper and no real difference in the performance of the CPU :)
I’m basing off my pc build after your build in the 3500 pc build video you made. So would you switch this out the i9 for i7? I haven’t bought anything yet.
Yes
my i7 13700k is around 28000 score for cr23 multi core. why is it like this?
hat beat was used around the 7 min mark?
I upgraded from a z97 Mark S DDR3 with i7 4770k at 4.8Ghz to a Z690-F (Might seem expensive but what is cheap nowheredays) with an i7 13700k and it is a incredibly huge difference even tough i was still able to properly play all games with the RX5700XT and the old setup. The i7 13700k will also be more then enough for at least 6-7 years or even more with a good motherboard and DDR5 Ram. The performance increased by at ca 5-15% depending on the game because of CPU bottleneck which is now GPU bottleneck because of the overkill CPU. But keep in mind that you should go for a Z-series and not the B-series because the B-series motherboard might seem good and cheap but you are not able to undervolt or overclock in with the B-series. In that case you should go for a non "K" version because you can't enjoy the proper unlocked version of Intel CPU's wich are the "K" ones. Buy cheap buy twice is very common in the PC world. The Z790 might also get cheaper in future for more DDR5 frequenzy but that doesn't really make a huge differenz. For people who only play games the Ryzen 7 7800x3d might also be a better choise because it delivers i9 13900k performance for nearly about the price of the i7 13700k but only in games because of the huge 3d cache. Both are defenetly a future proof choise :)
Now that the 13700K is more expensive, I went with the cheaper 12900KF, hope that wasn't too bad.
Im here for the aged milk.
hello, a question, excluding gaming and content creation, what really matters in a gpu? remains its coder support, its codecs and its media engine? Surely rasterization and making 20 fps more is not something that interests me, so what should I focus on?
Cuda. You want Cuda cores. Nvidia.
stability issues, go 12 or amd
I'm thinking about upgrading to a 13700k and wondering if the asus z690p will do the trick or should I spend more and go with a 790? Any thoughts are welcome thanks!
Z690 is fine :)
Would the i7 13700k be good enough for obs streaming while gaming?
I run a 13900K with a 4080 OC …. And can’t get it above 60 degrees Celsius on game Ultra settings . Best CPU for me
Hey there. What's the cooler and MB that you have?
@@mixasphil4228 I run a z690 asus and the asus Riyu cooler. I don’t use AsusAI so all is purely system driven without tweaks. I only got once to 88 degrees when running cinebench. This 4080 surpasses my expectations
I would really appreciate if you could specify asus z690 model and coller model as well. Thanks a lot 🙏
- PSU Asus ROG Thor 2 1200W (Cable Custom for PCIe 5.0)
- Mainboard Asus Z690 - A Gaming WiFi D4 , a rare DDR4 supported one
Todays average temperatures were roving around 45-50 Celsius . Note I don’t use 4K though,but 2K. Hence why a 4090 at 2500 $ local market price would be an overkill
Do you plan a video about the ROG STRIX Z790-I GAMING WIFI Motherboard?
I looking to build a mini-itx PC in NR200P MAX case from the Cooler master.
This Motherboard you have is my number one choice because of its connectivity. Also, I planing to use 13700k with 64GB ddr5 ram and rtx4080.
My daily software is Lightroom and Photoshop but I want to get into video creation with DaVinci Resolve and sometimes play COD MW2
Thanks 😊
Yep, video filmed coming out soon! :)
@Tech Notice Thank you so much appreciate 🙏
Me watching this after I got a 12900KF for Christmas 😐
Edit: With that said at the time my dad bought it, the 12900KF was $20 less than the 13700KF and for some reason thought I already had a 12th gen i7 in my PC when I had the 12400.
I almost bought the damn thing!! Just in time. 👏 👏
Would you recommend me to sell off my 12700K which I bought couple of months backs and get 13700K or stick with 12 Gen?
I plan to keep this PC for a long time without upgrading anytime soon so will I be losing a lot of performance if I don't upgrade it now considering I bought everything very recently, I am running it on Z690 board with DDR4 and will also stick with air cooler NH-D15, so will I face any cooling performance issues with air cooler on 13 Gen?
Lmk if u upgraded I plan on doing the same coming from the i7 12700f tho
oh my god this is exactly something I was having a dilemma over! how even.... sir you are scarily amazing
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Thanks For The Info!!! 🖤
I was going to get a 13700k but changed my mind when I found out about the motherboard flaw that made all 13th gen intel cpu's have poor contact with cpu coolers resulting in cpu temps that are over 95c. Went with a AMD 5700x instead since it was only $188
Is it possible to air cool the 13700k? I'm not comfortable with water cooling (bad past experience).
Yeah, but get the very best of Air coolers!
@@theTechNotice i have the NH-D15s with one fan. Would that be enough or should i add a second fan?
@@theTechNotice Buddy will Deepcool AK620 work well. I dont plan on cinebenching all cores, just gaming, I'm asking same question, It would really help me.
Ly your videos. greetings from Portugal!!!
I have the 12900k and to be honest I went with as the 13th Gen was not available yet. Yes the 13700k is slightly faster than the 12900k.. but to be honest it's Negligible at best .. the price to performance is what bothers me.. intel is playing a good game .. in that they are putting out cpus slightly tweaked, renamed and way too quick I mean the 12900k is barely a year old and with the 13th Gen it's pretty considered old.. I mean just 2 months ago everyone was raving about the 12900k and now it's like don't buy it.. I guess that makes since if your going to build now and your trying to decide but it sucks for people like me. That have the 12900k
Don't put too much stock in clickbait channels like this. Dude has another video from the same time that says "Don't buy the i7!"
The performance difference is negligible in most real world use cases. If you were buying right now and could get one cheaper than the other, you might as well.
But the best chip for you is the one you already have.
Awesome video and review, as always! Bought my 13700k the week it launched and paired it with a Gigabyte B660i board for my ITX build. It works beautifully for my production rig, but throttles badly in Cinebench. My ITX build limited my cooler choice to a Deepcool 240 rad. Tried to undervolt, but don't quite know how to do it on the new Gigabyte bios.
Don't know if I can on those boards. Needs to be z690 or z790
@@KinGDGaminG63 thanks for the response. My bios shows I have Vcore modes, but I don't really know which of the modes to go with - don't want to try something and fry my brand new i7. I have 'adaptive, fixed and override' modes. I'm probably better off just selecting a power limit.
@@ThePearlDrummer10 stock is adaptive. Can you change the value? I mean the number.
@@KinGDGaminG63 I am able to input values for each of the modes, yes. Should I go with fixed?
@@ThePearlDrummer10 what is your goal? Just lower temps or? You trying to over clock?
Completely destroys? I'd still take the 12900k over the 13700k if my primary workflow is Premiere, no?
Pitty you did not compare the 13700k with the 13600k for best value for productivity and less with last gen..
Thanks for sharing basic idea of what is to choose for my new PC. Since 13700kf is cheaper than 13700k, but 13700k perform better than 13700kf. Is it worth it to choose 13700k rather than 13700kf in terms of performance different? FYI I want to use the new PC for Blender and animation in UE5.
Hope you went with the K and not the KF
@@greatbigbeard Thanks.
bought for the same reason, so far very happy
So far and I having a lot of luck with the i7 13700K, Out of the Box it was OK but from everything that I read it's meant to be overclocked so I tried undervolting and overclocking it and the temperatures and performance are way worse now and I cannot get it fixed it still runs fast but it's not better than my previous processor so a waste of money as of right now
Thanks!!!
The efficiency numbers are a bit misleading in my opinion. I have a 12700k and with the e cores enabled, when idle, it consumes 12watts and with e cores disabled it uses 45watts, so i imagine if you do the same with the i7 13700k it would be even higher due to the higher clocks on cores and cache... the AMD chip is no inefficient, it just doesn't have a way to manage the idle power properly with 12 p cores and no hardware accelerators or some kind of e cores which they don't have... so AMD is still far more efficient for the amount of p cores it has... the only problem that i see now with AMD is, of course, pricing and the fact that apps like photoshop still doesn't take advantage of the RDNA2 igpu, because in rendering the ryzen 9 7900x is the clear choice here. The video is really informative and all, but it doesn't show the whole picture of the Intel 13th gen cpus.
That's the reality of the situation. Intel put the e-cores in there for a reason. They just need to make it work in mobile.
@@geforce5591 in mobile the idle power will be similar because the clockspeeds will be a lot lower on AMD side too, because if you lock the cores on 5ghz for example the chip draws in total 140w more or less, and in single tasks is a lot more efficient... and in my opinion in multicore AMD will win because of their efficiency... but they need to implement an update for adobe to take advantage of their IGPU... their loosing a lot of sales because of that too... i hope we see one soon anyway
So you're saying that 54 W is more efficient than 9 W? And the i7-13700K is superior in nearly every rendering task except Blender where it loses by 1.5% and AVX-512 programs like V-Ray (there are very few programs that make use of those instructions, so it wouldn't be an issue for the majority of users). Don't forget it's $100 cheaper, actually has reasonable motherboard pricing, and supports DDR4. Sure the Ryzen 9 7900X is more efficient in full-on multi-core tasks like Cinebench/Blender, but how often are you running those, because in all other situations (like browsing the web), the 13700K is far more efficient. In the end, you'll be paying less for electricity with the 13700K. The reason Intel is winning in many video/photo benchmarks is because Quicksync is superior to AMD's hardware accelerator, not because the RDNA2 iGPU is not supported.
@@vaggeliskosiatzis5487Intel has certainly made strides with their 7N process but I still think AMD comes out on top when it comes to battery life because they have mobile specific optimizations/design choices and the single core delta between Ryzen and Raptor is app dependent and mostly in the single-digits unlike the 30% gulf between alder lake and Ryzen 5000.
So true, my 13700k is coming up!