He doesn’t actually “love” film, he idolizes it. That’s why Scorsese or Tarantino can say something is crap no problem. Because they’re actually interested in the medium/craft, and becoming a celebrity is a side effect. Whereas Chris clearly cares more about having the title of “filmmaker” (and the potential status boost), and creating movies is just a vehicle to access that.
This is exactly right. When I hear him talk about ✨ F I L M S ✨ I hear this kind of religious devotion to the art of filmmaking, like the masters descended from on high with the art of films etched on stone tablets. He’s clearly in love with the prestige, honour and to some extent the mystery that comes from being a filmmaker, of being regarded as a great artist, of having your works beloved by many and analysed by the select few critics who understand how brilliant they are. The actual mechanics of making movies or stories isn’t as important to him as just being called a filmmaker, which is a pretty shallow and surface level understanding of the craft. Ironically, Chris might make a great film where the protagonist is a tragic character who is always yearning to be something that he doesn’t actually understand so always falls short of achieving his goals.
Chris doesn't care about films, he cares about what films can do for him. The prestige, the respect, the fame. He sees films as his path to glory, not an art form to be cultivated.
lol what? So to be a “lover of film” you need to be at the same level of filmmaking as QT and MS are in their current careers? How are you measuring labeling someone as a “lover of film”?
Stuckmann refusing to properly critique abysmal movies reminds me of when Ned Flanders refused to properly critique his new “house”, until it collapsed into rubble. “So, Stuckmann, what do you think of the movie that love built?”
“Chris, with respect, I like it when some people don’t like my movies.” “What’s that? Do I hear the sound of butting in? Gotta be little Rian Johnson, Hollywood’s answer to a question NO ONE ASKED!”
Chris Stuckmann has openly stated (he released a video on this two years ago) that he was changing his approach to videos on his UA-cam channel. That he’s going to focus more on celebrating movies that he likes than criticize them. He’s not wanting to function as a film critic anymore. He’s never lied about this, he was very open and honest about this approach moving forward with his channel. His entire sixteen minute video was an editorial on studios injecting themselves into the creative process of filmmakers, and he used Madame Web as an example. His video wasn’t about the pros or cons of the movie, the quality, the presentation, the acting, directing, cinematography, etc, it was literally about how he thinks studios expose themselves in the creative process. Everything he talks about was from that perspective. He was open and honest about this at the beginning of the video when he said “this isn’t a review on Madame Web.”
@@B1G_WENGHYou’re absolutely right. Chris is totally not doing this because he wants to be a director. And will not do anything to put that in jeopardy. It’s divinely because being critical of film is a terrible thing. Which is something every great critic believes.
Timestamps 0:00 Ethimology 1:30 Wed-Efap 9:30 Intro 10:38 The Video Starts 12:33 Embargo 14:26 Dune 2 16:10 Stuckman Statement 20:00 Kneeling 30:40 Indipendency 33:10 Director 38:30 Rotten Tomatoes 40:42 Better Help 49:39 Studio Influence 1:33:40 Writers 1:54:20 Producer's Powers 2:08:50 Technical Issue 2:10:48 Control 2:15:38 Sony & The Director's Freedom 2:30:12 2000s Superheroes 2:36:15 Winners & Liars 2:48:05 Money Generators 2:50:00 assumption 2:51:30 The Filmmaker 2:57:27 Zeitgeist 3:04:29 Pepsi 3:07:55 Poor Writers 3:13:28 The Ideal Industry 3:24:08 Ideas 3:30:23 Uncreative In Power 3:36:08 Support Good Movies 3:38:39 The Acclaimed Critical Filmmaker 3:40:56 The Uniue Position 3:43:20 End Credits 3:46:00 Jlongbone Controversy 4:34:30 Stuckman's Comment Section 4:48:00 The Old Stuckman 4:54:45 The Assassination of Chris Stuckmann 4:56:07 What we have Learned? 5:02:25 RLM 5:18:12 airfrying 5:19:45 What Rags Have Learned? 5:24:14 UA-camrs 5:27:30 Wondering 5:30:00 The Guests 5:32:55 Closing a pointless stream
JLongbone: Oh my god, Chris Stuckmann is so annoying. Simps: STFU JLONGBONE YOU'RE THE ANNOYING ONE, CHRIS STUCKMANN IS AMAZING, HE IS KIND, HE IS CARING, I LOVE HIM, HE IS THE BEST HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET, AND IF YOU CRITISIZE HIM IN ANY WAY, YOU'RE AN AWFUL PERSON! CHRIS STUCKMANN IS MY SENPAI!!!!! But then they call us simps for simply liking a content creator they don't.
Yep, the "party of compassion" in action ladies and gentlemen. Imagine behaving that way and then being surprised at society's collective coordinated removal of you.
That is always something I have seen on that "type" of movie critic. There is not a single method they criticise they do not also use. Dogpiling, review bombing, censorship, and petty insults are all valid only when they do it. As MovieBob said, there are no bad tactics, only bad targets.
What I don’t get is that Chris Stuckmann stopped “criticizing” movies because he wants to be a filmmaker in some capacity and believes this direction on his channel will help him achieve that goal. And then he goes on to criticize studio interference nonstop. Which studio is actually going to hire you to make their film if you won’t let them make some forms of creative decisions. And even if he ends up making a movie with a studio and it bombs, then the studios are just going to be afraid that Stuckmann will blame their decisions or interference on the failure of the movie instead of taking some blame himself. If he only wants to make independent films exclusively for creative control, then what’s the bloody harm in criticizing all movies fairly? Does he genuinely believe no actor/producer/cameraman/etc wouldn’t want to work with him if he critiques movies fairly? Edit: Ok, Fringy brings up this point at 3:24:00. The producer Fringy has ruined my creative idea and destroyed my comment as a result.
He's basically signaling to the studios that he's going to be difficult to work with because he'll fight every decision, every note, and every suggestion they offer while still expecting their money. That's going to put some studios off. And because he's a newbie, he has no one in the industry to vouch for him. We know these "creatives" are willing to throw each other under the bus if it's convenient, and they'll do it to him, too.
I have no idea if Chris Stuckmann is really trying to be nice or if he's a total sellout, but it boils down to this: refusing to address negative aspects of a film is a complete dereliction of duty as a film critic, and he is doing his viewers an immense disservice by doing so. He has absolutely no business being called a "film critic" if he sticks to this. Used car salesmen have higher professional standards than Stuckmann.
You have to watch to the end but I think Chris is legitimately worried about how his movie is gonna be received. If his reaction to the RLM joke is anything to go by, he doesn't handle criticism very well. And you can bet he is scared because the guns of criticism are pointed in HIS direction for once.
No you mean criticise the company but don't shit on the workers (even though they were either unqualified to build it or didn't say anything about it being badly built or the architect because he only wanted to make his creative vision a reality. Nevermind that he might have put artistic vision above security or practicality.
Building a car is hard. So if you by a car and it keeps losing brakes and the doors keep jamming shut and don't open properly and the windscreen wipers aren't long enough and gearbox is out of alignment and you end up trapped in a fireball on the highway, don't criticize the car for being badly built. Don't criticize the designers or the engineers who designed the doors to open 40-degrees. Its the shareholders and execs of the company who imposed their bs on the designer's creativity. THAT'S why the car is a deathtrap.
Holy crap, I've had people actively wish for the demise of my family and myself and I wasn't as upset about it as Stuckmann was when RLM called him a prick.
You don't get it, they were his IDOLS! He even gave them money! :D Poor lad has some seriously stunted ability to handle even weak banter, no wonder he started panicking at the idea that his work might get criticised.
@roarshack5879 the meme is explained earlier. The thumbnail didn't update in time do the alert thumbnail was the Ocean spray thumbnail from the previous EFAP
"The studio just wants to retain the rights to a character, so they don't actually care about the project, so they heavily interfered with the project they don't care about." - Chris Stuckmann.
they dont do that, no? most directors have made complaints about the studios messing with their scripts and micro managing their movies, wasn't half the internet crying because they wanted zach snyders version of his movie just a few years ago? we saw a perfect example of the studios interfering and remaking the movie different and changed it into what they wanted while not caring that the characters were being portrayed and stupid bumbling idiots. its clear they love involving themselves into projects, making changes and also dont care that the characters are shit hence the new age of whatever bs the studios want to preach
@@amandacantcometothephone in this video Chris said the studio probably didn’t care about this project and just wanted to retain rights so why would they even get involved if they didn’t care? Look studios do interfere. Sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse. I think it’s probably more the latter when they’re changing what a good creator with a clear vision has made and then you have product placement stuff which, even when they can integrate it well into the film, is not something that was added because they thought it would elevate the art. The main problem with Chris’ take is that he doesn’t have any idea what was caused by studio interference here yet he makes sweeping claims about the work which are unfair to the creatives behind it. If you want to have a mature discussion about this issue you need to have evidence to explain your points. He doesn’t even address when studios have made good suggestions to explain what the difference between those projects and Madame Web were. What is the role of the creatives if the studio is behind it all? How do we know when there was studio interference? Is it just when we think something sucks because that’s gonna be a lot of different projects depending on who you ask. Chris doesn’t make any arguments and I don’t like how he talks about creatives. To be fair to him I don’t think it was intentional or that he really would agree with much that he said in this video if you say him down and presented basic research on this film that takes less than a minute to find or if you just asked him to explain his claims in more depth. Those are the issues people are taking about his studio takes. I think it’s hapless rather than malicious here though. It doesn’t seem like he workshopped these claims very much. The video doesn’t give any real insight and that’s the most neutral thing I can say about it.
I honestly want to see his film that he says was in production but got delayed. If it releases and its anywhere near the level of his directing and writing on his past short films, then good fucking luck to him.
In an amorphous, unspecific sense so that he could take all the heat off the "creatives" which is a "class" that he wishes to now consider himself a part of. I'm sure if he ever became part of the industry ingroup deep enough to work as a studio exec they'd also suddenly become part of his hallowed groups as well (like how Bernie railed against the "millionaires & billionaires" til he became a millionaire and he suddenly only criticized the "billionaires").@@Relugus
@@RelugusNo one called him a coward in this comment thread? Chris is also not criticizing the actual filmmakers and only went after the corporation and the execs, which is honestly what I think he wants to happen when he releases his film and people think its shite.
@@ChickenKingTW I will say for as bad as his Movie/TV takes are, he has always had a great insight on reviewing. If you actually ask him or listen to how he thinks a critic should present their argument, you would be shocked by how much you'd find yourself nodding your head in agreement.
@@FisherTheOtter Even post-2016 he still has that mindset. The only thing that I don't like about his review system is using the long outdated 10-point system (10 outta 10).
It's really kinda funny that Blade Trinity got brought up, that one is a great example of how too much creative freedom can be a problem. David Goyer was the writer who basically created the modern version of Blade with the first movie, it was like his personal project and his idea (Blade in the old comics was much different from movie Blade) He also wrote for Blade 2 But for Blade Trinity he was both writer and director (and producer as well if I'm not mistaken) and the studio seemed to think he could do no wrong. It was his first time directing, and he would talk about how he would get in arguments with himself over what needed to be cut or stay in from each perspective and how it became very stressful- likely leading to many of the issues with that movie. He also didn't really seem to run the production as a tight ship, there were a lot of pranks and jokes and stuff disrupting the process, including Goyer himself getting in on the pranking. If I remember right that was a part of the reason Snipes got angry The other lead actors and Goyer and the some of the crew seemed to have fun, but it wasn't really super professional which Snipes always struck me as being
3:11:50 Drinker's comment here reflects an experience I had. I sent my second novel off to my agent and she said it would work better if I removed one of the characters. He'd been in the book from chapter 2 onwards. I removed him and realised she was right; I gave his bits to other characters and it tightened up the whole story. Sometimes the creative person is the last one to see what needs doing to his creation. (And for the record, this was in the days before I had a computer, so the whole book had to be retyped manually.)
They've been majorly fined and sited by FTC already. It's just the whole idea behind the service is so some dudes could make bank... it was NEVER about legitimate and compassionate mental health care. You couldn't PAY me to use them. They're literally like a cancer and everything wrong with the profiteering off of unwell people.
There's a saying/philosophy in writing. "Your first idea is never your best idea. Never settle for your first idea. Have a fifth idea. What about a fiftieth idea? Go. Work at it. Mold it. Do the work." Chris Stuckmann is a critic who seems to terminally attached to his very first thoughts, his first opinions, his first ideas, and after he produces his first draft of these ideas, he then hits "publish" and that's what his channel is.
When RedLetterMedia made fun of Chris and quite *_clearly_* hurt his feelings, instead of making a pathetic response video trying to downplay it and convince himself he wasn't really upset; if he had any wit he could have just tweeted: "Oh.... Well I guess now I know how Mike felt when he got 'cyber bullied' by his idol William Shatner."
Armoured Skeptic got called a prick in the same frame as Chris, and that guy easily laughed it off. HE knew what the deal was. These are matters of being or not being socially oblivious.
If we were to count the number of times Chris has said “I love movies,” or something to that effect, and the number of times Fringy has referenced The Simpsons on EFAP, which would be higher? 😂
The moral of the story: “REAL” criticism and “ACTUAL” analysis is when you defer any and all issues with a film to the boogeyman studio heads and producers. This is incredibly mature and helpful for creatives, because telling them they’re perfect and that they only ever fail due to vague, unproven sabotage always leads to great things
His entire sixteen minute video was an editorial on studios injecting themselves into the creative process of filmmakers, and he used Madame Web as an example. His video wasn’t about the pros or cons of the movie, the quality, the presentation, the acting, directing, cinematography, etc, it was literally about how he thinks studios expose themselves in the creative process. Everything he talks about was from that perspective. He didn’t lie or anything. He was open and honest about this at the beginning of the video when he said “this isn’t a review on Madame Web.”
@@Indigo_Gaming So every movie he does not talk about is immediately assumed bad by omission? This is illogical. There is such a thing as unremarkable or neutral movies, not everything is just good or bad.
@@B1G_WENGH Are you his alt? Only being positive and never calling a turd a turd will do nothing for movies aside from allowing even more turds to be produced. We all know the reason he does this is because he doesn't want to close doors for himself. This means whenever he talks about movies you know his opinion is worthless because he will censor himself and not give you his real opinion and just say it's good no matter what issues it has. The madam web video might not be a review but he still does them, making him a critic and his exclusively positive approach makes his opinions as a critic useless and biased.
Stuckman's simps skins are so thin, they lose their minds over a very lukewarm ribbing by JLongbone. Imagine what would happen if Jlong went full scorched earth.
As someone who's only seen Chris Stuckmann through efap, it was jarring as fuck to see the man actually emote and move in the compilation of his old stuff.
It’s amazing that what took his audience to turn on him was to *explicitly* state he wasn’t going to review a movie…as if he was doing real reviews beforehand.
@@unpopularopinions7407Twitter is torn between getting traction because it can be monetized and ignorant people either having no idea what Chris has become or those who are from subjective/positivity crowd
I just realized, Stuckmann tries to argue that the absurdity of One Piece is a result of the current state of Hollywood, but the Netflix show is adapting stuff that was written over 20 years ago. He really doesn't do any research, does he?
I hope that the "you don't like our movies because you hate women" narrative will die after this movie's box office results get published - because the movie ends with a woman blind and paralyzed, misogynists ought to love "Madame Web".
Stuckmann is spitting in the faces of the people who he wants to be his boss, to defend the honor of people he’s deluded himself into thinking are his peers. How can you be this assbackwards on accident
Dude. Thank you so much for saying that lmao. I’ve been telling my friends that the dude clearly never worked a real job a day in his life, due to his dumbass idea that it makes more logic to get on camera and insult his potential bosses, rather than the talentless, current-wave of hacks that he’s surrounded by. Dude is a fucking idiot.
If working under the studio system is so horrible as he makes it out to be, why is he so adamant to get there to be disappointed with the "clueless producers"? Boggles the mind...
Chris Stuckmann looks like someone most of the way through succumbing to a zombie bite. Edit: His beard is draining his critical thinking. It has to be. He's become more neutral as it's grown longer.
I get that people do work on films. All films have that. But to sugarcoat criticism because they might get offended is why there's such visceral reaction whenever someone has negative opinions on a film. "Toxic positivity" can be just as reductive as "toxic negativity."
Memes aside, what HAPPENED to this dude? Did he have some kind of traumatic experience a couple years ago? His entire demeanor is completely different now to the point where he just seems like a lifeless husk of the man that used to be Chris Stuckmann
In his video about leaving the Jehova's Witnesses 3 years ago he also mentioned that his parents and siblings went no contact due to the religion playing such a controlling factor in their lives. However it was also clear when showed a picture of his wife, that she is a progressive who likely doesn't get on with his family. She likely wanted to change him, forced him to leave the religion and abandon his family, encourage him to make a video to justify it all and make it permanent. His videos and personality have never really been the same since.
5:01:00, There's a chance that him stopping being a Jehovah's Witness is actually part of the drain. When you quit they do a thing called disfellowship you, which basically is shunning. So if most of his friends and family were part of the church then they'd basically be told by the church to no longer associate with him. If that's the case then it could have taken a pretty heavy emotional toll.
I think we should only be throwing out something as harsh as a Peepo Sus for FAPs under 4hrs. But I'm not really sure which we should use for that foggy 4-6hr period.
Stuckmann is TOTALLY avoiding to make any more film criticism to "promote positivity" so that he can get fewer people criticizing his own movies. This is the same guy who had a freakout over Rich Evans jokingly calling him a pr*ck. His skin is as thin as tissue paper. Listen, I'm no filmmaker or screenwriter. I am also not a 5-star restaurant chef, but I don't need to be one to tell when food has spoiled ... Just like how I don't need to be a filmmaker to tell when I'm watching a bad movie.
I don't even mind if he's thin-skinned and wants "positive vibes only" or whatever. It's good that he recognizes that he can't take it, so he doesn't dish it. The problem I have is that he doesn't admit his insecurities to his audience, because he knows they would take him less seriously as a reviewer/filmmaker if they knew how sensitive he was. I'm somewhat sympathetic towards Stuckmann, because his entire income is based on a façade of pseudo-intellect he's touted for his room-temperature IQ audience, and it's scary to lose that.
I like how whenever someone has to leave, Mauler announces it himself first. It's like he just randomly decides to kick someone off mid show. At any moment, Mauler could just decide that it's time for you to leave! No provocation, no warning, he just says it out of the blue and that's it, you're off.
30:35 Isnt the entire competitive edge of Stuckmanns channel the fact he made a film and has an education in directing, thus would have a better understanding of the trials of being a film maker than some random joe? Chris. You cant just pick and choose when your knowledge base is useful about something.
While your point is valid, MauLer and Drinker are two "random joes" who have never directed a movie. Whereas Uwe Bowel and Tommy Wiseau have both directed multiple movies. I'd love to listen to the latter about their experiences making their films, but crikey, I've no interest in hearing what they think constitutes good filmmaking or how stories should be told.
Good point. The funny thing is, I think he went to film school after he started his doing movie reviews on UA-cam, and the reviews he makes after film school are just as unsubstantial as the reviews he made before film school. The only difference is that he was mildly funnier in the past. Now he just seems tired, but he tries to pass the fatigue off as intelligence, but it just makes him look pretentious. Or, to use someone else's words, it makes him look like a prick.
Agreed. When Critical Drinker released his Venom two review and stated Sony Studios’ meddling was the cause for that movie and Venom one, Amazing Spider-Man one and two, and Spider-Man three being bad, I was like, “wait, where’s your evidence for this statement, Drinker?” I looked on Google and was able to discredit Drinker’s statement on all the movies he’s listed. Guess he didn’t learn, though, because he made the same claims about Sony when he released his Morbius review
@@B1G_WENGHi was of the opinion that reshoots are always due to studio demands? Or do they dish out more millions because the scriptwriter changed their minds?
Here before all the Chris Stuckmann simps and r/saltierthankrayt members find this video and whine about the EFAP crew daring to insult their opinion validating husbando.
Something that's been hilarous from the fallout of Madame Web, is that all the mcu stans are now saying that Sony should absolutely hand over the Spider-Man rights to Marvel Entertainment, or to Feige specifically. And whenever I ask them "Why would Sony ever decide to do that?" I can never get an actual answer from them.
To add onto the conversation about the purity of the creator’s artistic imagination in contrast to the soulless emptiness of the executive suit who doesn’t understand anything, I would like to draw everyone’s attention to Andrei Konchalovsky’s Nutcracker 3D/The Untold Story, a film that he directed, produced and wrote. And no, your memory isn’t failing you, this is the one where the rats are dressed like Nazis and the Rat King does a musical number while overseeing a Holocaust of toys they go out of their way to establish are still alive as they’re burnt in a giant pile… again, with a rat that looks like Andy Warhol singing over it. Do you think that this is something that should never be interfered with under any circumstances to respect the creative vision? Or do you think there should have been someone with money who had the ability to say “Hey… maybe no?” What would Chris have to say about that? Would he look at a project that was unquestionably this creator’s vision and still blame studio interference? Would he admit that this idiotic perspective is as silly as it sounds? Or would he commit and say that a scene which has stuck with me for nearly 20 years because of how sick I feel about it is nothing but pure genius because it was a creative vision? I just do not understand how he’s fallen in love with the idea of making movies so much that the obvious notion that a creative person can be wrong just no longer occurs to him anymore.
He'd probably cop out saying "it's not for me, but he got to complete his vision". Which of course is stupid because if it's "just for you" with absolutely no care to what other people think, they why make it publicly available? Because obviously on some level he wants attention or people to like/engage with it. It's not mandated that anything you make HAS to be accessible. I've made things for friends that only they've seen even though I could put it out there. But once you put it out, you can't complain when other people have thoughts on it.
The studio execs changed the ending of Pitch Black so that Riddick lives and the captain dies because Riddick would be more marketable for sequels. I would argue that was not a bad decision, even though I hate the 2nd film.
that's madame web. she's got my back. her web connects us all through fate. i was with her mother in the amazon researching spiders. right before she died.
So apparently this level of fence sittery is unique to Chris because his comments are having a fuckin AA meeting about it to the point where Angry Joe typed a whole dissertation about criticism and it's benefits in the comments of his video.
I am holding fast on my MCU conspiracy theory. Inexperienced writers and directors are getting MCU jobs because they are either using their once in a lifetime favor or burning their bridges in some way to get the job. MCU has become so big that if you only had one favor, one bridge to burn, or one use of nepotism in your life your gonna spend it on that. We don't know how connected or related to decision makers these inexperienced people are.
Wow, hearing you defend producers was such an unexpected but very welcome balm for the soul. I'm not in the movie industry, I'm a game producer but the same still applies for us too, we're often the punching bags, the ones to blame for all failures who never get any credit for a success. So, thank you! ❤
I was constantly saying "Wonder Woman 1984" to my screen. Amd then Fringy or Cap brought it up. Watch the deleted scenes from Captain Marvels and The Marvels. Those movies are trash. The director shot those scenes with the intention to include them in the movie. But at least someone at Disney had the foresight to say, "cut it out". We don't know why those scenes were cut, whether it was some exec who saw the light or just to save runtime. Either way, The Captain Marvel deleted scenes are just eye-rolling girlboss cringe. But THE MARVELS scene is downright creepy and not comedic at all.
@@Lampoluke Sure, a few sh*theads always manage to f*ck everything up for everyone else in any industry. You're right to be suspicious/cautious. But I do hope you don't think every producer is like those loud few at the very top. (And once again a lot of blame gets placed on the producers' shoulders when it's mostly the directors and CEOs and COOs who make the final decisions and we're left to put everything together and fit it within their demands. Usually.)
I have no idea where my comment disappeared to. Ha, that's giving me flashbacks, actually! :D You are right to feel apprehensive, suspicious or at the very least cautious. I still hope you know not all producers are talentless hacks who only want to make their (often alleged) hobbies worse in order to push the MESSAGE!!! There's so many talented and passionate people/even producers, believe it or not, here who really want to make their hobby of choice better but CAN'T.
it's the biggest misconception of modern society, that good artists just fall from the sky and are just GOOD. art IS HARD and EVERY artist, writer, creator ect is a bad artist first, and gets better with learning from trial, error and.... CRITISISM. not every critisim is educated & constructive (aka usefull to the skill), but educated, constructive critisim is HOW artists grow to the great artists they are. if you can't take, nor give constructive critisism, you gonna have a haaaaaaaaard time in any creative industry. and chris is the perfect representation of that struggle. he is scared to be bad, scared to critic bad, scared to accept bad, when bad is the start of the journey, and neccecary to EVERY creative person. amazing artists do not fall from the sky like magic.
An executive producer saying "I don't understand your decisions but I trust you completely" to a creative director also counts as a studio decision. Do they get credit for that when the end product is good?
In the southern USA there is a saying: "Bless your heart". This is sometimes confusing to people not used to southern culture, because it sounds harmless, but is actually the most heinous insult a southerner could say about someone. The implication is that there is nothing good about the person's abilities, intelligence, moral character, appearance, life choices, or relationships so the only way they could expect something nice to happen is if it's a miracle from God. Perhaps Stuckmann could realize that many people in the world speak passive-aggressive more expertly than he does and it doesn't come off well to others when you do it ineptly.
@@o00nemesis00o It's pretty bad. People usually don't get into a fistfight over it if they realize the person saying it doesn't know what it means, but people's heads will turn if you say in in public.
Dude, where the hell do you live in the south where that phrase has all that ridiculous baggage to it? I'm a ways down past the mason-dixon myself and I've never heard it used as anything but a simple pitying comment on someone who is naive, stupid, or incapable in some way.
@@TheRealJabbergeist I'm in Texas, which is not genuinely southern, but I learned it from my grandparents who are very much trained in southern etiquette. If you just want to say someone is dumb, you call them "cute" or "sweet". If you want to say someone is rude and dumb, you call them "northern". If you want to say go fuck yourself in hell, you say "bless your heart". There are tons of people who use it incorrectly, just as there are many people who use big words incorrectly because they don't know what they mean. If you want a video example of someone using the phrase correctly, watch Pecos Hank's "Stupid Tornado Chasing- Dangerous Behavior" from about 8:34.
Throwing away his miraculously successful youtube career by refusing to do what his channel was built upon for a career that isn't promising to say the least "Its a bold strategy cotton let's see how it pays off for him"
46:29 The exact moment I realized JLongBone was in the pod. What's with her lately? She used to be so energetic and enthusiastic about the topics being brought up, but lately she's been so quiet and downlow I barely even notice she's there. Same thing happened in the Madame Wb episode. I hope she's okay and it's just a phase cause she's too funny and adds way too much happyness to the podcast to be wasted.
He seemed like a fun guy in those old clips. Maybe it's because he wanted to get his foot in the door as a director or maybe it's because he's a family man now. Either way, a real shame he lost that spark.
Y'know.... as an amateur writer, I absolutely CRAVE hard criticism. Nothing is worse, to me, than someone just "trying to be nice" to me. How in the hell can I possibly improve at the craft if people only ever tell me "Yeah, this is good" or whatever? Sure, tell things that you like, tell me what's working. BUT! ALSO tell me what is NOT working! What's missing? What can I do to make my writing better? What am I missing? What have I overlooked? Arguably, one learns more from criticism than they do from praise.
Fr. I made some flash-cards for teaching and a dude not knowing I made them said off-hand "That pizza does NOT look good. . ." And now I know how to draw pizza that look good. Because I know what not to do.
I feel you, since I have the exact same issue. It's ridiculously hard to get any kind of constructive criticism. Out of a 100 comments, 90 will say "This is really good", 9 will say "I don't like X character/development/plot device, therefore the whole story is trash", and 1 will say "Hey, there's an inconsistency here, you might want to fix it". Reviews are even worse, because bad ones just get extremely over-represented, and most of the time, their criticism is completely worthless for improving the story (e.g.: "It's boring.", or "This character annoys me", or my favorite "I thought this story was going to be about X, it was actually about Y, therefore it's bad"). How is anyone supposed to gleam insight out of that?
As someone who used to watch Stuckman vids I’m embarrassed for both him being nothing but a shill and myself for giving him the time of day. Looking back he was a surface level reviewer and now he’s not even that
Chris Stuckmann is to film criticism what Jodie Whittaker is to being The Doctor. In name only. Adding nothing. Yet presented and operating with an air of empty importance just waiting for someone to notice how nothing they are.
4:05:32 Also, even with regards to Marvel not giving VFX workers adequate time, it's still possible and valid to critize the directors for making poor choices which add burdens to the artists, especially for unimportant scenes. I know he's comparing how you don't blame the artist themselves, but the studio, so he's not talking about directors in this comparison, but it's relevant because even with his best example, not all the blame is always on the studio. Plus the video Browntable's defending is promoting that you never bring this, or other such things, up at all.
His solution is for investors and producers to fork over millions of dollars to "creatives" and then shut up and go away and take whatever they get. I don't think many will want to invest.
Hail to Fringy defending those of us in retail and fast food. When someone says that these are easy jobs that lets me know they are a privilaged person who never had to work a bottom of the barrel job in their life.
PLEASE keep making these Keys to KO videos. Not only do they illustrate the techniques used, but they also can be an oppurtunity to highlight lesser known and/or appreciated boxers that had moments of brillance in their career.
Ya know, I'm not very familiar with Chris Stuckman, but seeing this gives me the impression that when the Oscars are happening he's on his couch, watching with baited breath and then lets out a shocked gasp, covers his mouth before starting to clap while shaking his head
Speaking of "celebration of movies" if Stuckmann knew a thing or two about movie criticism, he would know that THAT is a part of movie celebration! Siskel & Ebert are a big reason of what made me love movies. They covered everything so they made me discover a lot of movies I would not have known without them. And they also made me laugh talking about movies that sucked. And it this did not detract me for loving movies in general. Quite the opposite cause it's supposed to be fun. Comparisons are fine. This movie is good, this movie is bad. That's part of the game. And it helps us identify quality.
I’ve done work in 0 budget, out of pocket feature length films and multi-million dollar sets as various positions from PA to writer to director. At what point am I allowed to criticize Stuckmann’s statement? I think I’ve pulled ahead of him resume wise already. If I’m bonafide enough for the Twitter randos, I’d be saying a lot of what the stream is saying. Producers “buy their way” into having say, but they’re crucial elements and deserve a say. All the producers I’ve worked with have been incredible people and mainly only speak up when they really have something to say. They weren’t Marvel or Disney level producers, but Stuckmann didn’t make that distinction either. Producers have their eye on everything on the set, they’re not just there to throw money. Even if it’s all business to them and no passion, they’re there and doing work. Let them speak. It goes without saying that was isn’t said is just as important as what is said and Stuckmann doesn’t say a LOT. What he does said is pretty empty and useless too, but he’s very verbose in what he doesn’t say. It’s incredible to think he’s not super harsh in this video. Madame Web wasn’t just not worth him even attempting to review properly, but it wasn’t even worth looking into more. If you used my video as a vehicle to talk about something entirely else based entirely on your own assumptions without even trying, I don’t know what to take about that other than an insult.
"The movie was bad, you say? Tell that to *Madame Web's snapped spine!"* - Christoph Stuckmannized
GOT EM!
When you realized that all of Peter Parker’s misery could be blamed on Madame Web.
@@nont18411 "Uh, oh! The misery! Madame Web wants to be my enemy!" - Peter "destroy my marriage Mephisto" Parker
We need the piss cut of this comment Indigo.
@@nont18411Well tell that to Uncle Ben's shot chest!
He doesn’t actually “love” film, he idolizes it. That’s why Scorsese or Tarantino can say something is crap no problem. Because they’re actually interested in the medium/craft, and becoming a celebrity is a side effect. Whereas Chris clearly cares more about having the title of “filmmaker” (and the potential status boost), and creating movies is just a vehicle to access that.
This is exactly right. When I hear him talk about ✨ F I L M S ✨ I hear this kind of religious devotion to the art of filmmaking, like the masters descended from on high with the art of films etched on stone tablets. He’s clearly in love with the prestige, honour and to some extent the mystery that comes from being a filmmaker, of being regarded as a great artist, of having your works beloved by many and analysed by the select few critics who understand how brilliant they are. The actual mechanics of making movies or stories isn’t as important to him as just being called a filmmaker, which is a pretty shallow and surface level understanding of the craft.
Ironically, Chris might make a great film where the protagonist is a tragic character who is always yearning to be something that he doesn’t actually understand so always falls short of achieving his goals.
Chris doesn't care about films, he cares about what films can do for him. The prestige, the respect, the fame. He sees films as his path to glory, not an art form to be cultivated.
@@Longshanks1690You've got it right. Stuckman isn't totally cynical like some are saying. He dies love film, but it's a shallow "religious" love.
lol what? So to be a “lover of film” you need to be at the same level of filmmaking as QT and MS are in their current careers?
How are you measuring labeling someone as a “lover of film”?
@@B1G_WENGH That seems like an awfully and deliberately incorrect reading of their point. Go back to Special Ed.
Stuckmann refusing to properly critique abysmal movies reminds me of when Ned Flanders refused to properly critique his new “house”, until it collapsed into rubble.
“So, Stuckmann, what do you think of the movie that love built?”
"Well, I can't grow up with good intentions Mauler!"
"You are the worst director I have ever met."
"Woohoo! I got off easy!"
“Chris, with respect, I like it when some people don’t like my movies.”
“What’s that? Do I hear the sound of butting in? Gotta be little Rian Johnson, Hollywood’s answer to a question NO ONE ASKED!”
Chris Stuckmann has openly stated (he released a video on this two years ago) that he was changing his approach to videos on his UA-cam channel. That he’s going to focus more on celebrating movies that he likes than criticize them. He’s not wanting to function as a film critic anymore. He’s never lied about this, he was very open and honest about this approach moving forward with his channel.
His entire sixteen minute video was an editorial on studios injecting themselves into the creative process of filmmakers, and he used Madame Web as an example. His video wasn’t about the pros or cons of the movie, the quality, the presentation, the acting, directing, cinematography, etc, it was literally about how he thinks studios expose themselves in the creative process. Everything he talks about was from that perspective. He was open and honest about this at the beginning of the video when he said “this isn’t a review on Madame Web.”
@@B1G_WENGHYou’re absolutely right. Chris is totally not doing this because he wants to be a director. And will not do anything to put that in jeopardy. It’s divinely because being critical of film is a terrible thing. Which is something every great critic believes.
Guys, please, be more understanding. Stuckmann's milquetoast anti-criticisms of shitty movies are the only thing that bring him joy in life.
Did you *see* Googly Eyes, released 2012?
Jebus crust. Is that how milquetoast is actually spelt?!
Stuckmann's milquetoast anti-criticisms are my only joy in life.
I think he delivers the same milquetoast reviews of good movies, too. He is just really one-dimensional. It is the only schtick he can do.
I'm inclined to doubt he's able to feel joy. His hard drive only has so much capacity.
Timestamps
0:00 Ethimology
1:30 Wed-Efap
9:30 Intro
10:38 The Video Starts
12:33 Embargo
14:26 Dune 2
16:10 Stuckman Statement
20:00 Kneeling
30:40 Indipendency
33:10 Director
38:30 Rotten Tomatoes
40:42 Better Help
49:39 Studio Influence
1:33:40 Writers
1:54:20 Producer's Powers
2:08:50 Technical Issue
2:10:48 Control
2:15:38 Sony & The Director's Freedom
2:30:12 2000s Superheroes
2:36:15 Winners & Liars
2:48:05 Money Generators
2:50:00 assumption
2:51:30 The Filmmaker
2:57:27 Zeitgeist
3:04:29 Pepsi
3:07:55 Poor Writers
3:13:28 The Ideal Industry
3:24:08 Ideas
3:30:23 Uncreative In Power
3:36:08 Support Good Movies
3:38:39 The Acclaimed Critical Filmmaker
3:40:56 The Uniue Position
3:43:20 End Credits
3:46:00 Jlongbone Controversy
4:34:30 Stuckman's Comment Section
4:48:00 The Old Stuckman
4:54:45 The Assassination of Chris Stuckmann
4:56:07 What we have Learned?
5:02:25 RLM
5:18:12 airfrying
5:19:45 What Rags Have Learned?
5:24:14 UA-camrs
5:27:30 Wondering
5:30:00 The Guests
5:32:55 Closing a pointless stream
You're doing the lord's work, thank you for your dedication.
Thank you!
Just a heads-up, there's a few entries with no timestamps on that list.
@@toriaoi1695 no problem
@@EthanMallonee you're welcome
I love how Jlongbone’s response to Stuckman’s “review” is absolutely tame compared to the responses to her response!
The same type of people that constantly champion “marginalized voices” until a black woman actually says something.
JLongbone: Oh my god, Chris Stuckmann is so annoying.
Simps: STFU JLONGBONE YOU'RE THE ANNOYING ONE, CHRIS STUCKMANN IS AMAZING, HE IS KIND, HE IS CARING, I LOVE HIM, HE IS THE BEST HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET, AND IF YOU CRITISIZE HIM IN ANY WAY, YOU'RE AN AWFUL PERSON! CHRIS STUCKMANN IS MY SENPAI!!!!!
But then they call us simps for simply liking a content creator they don't.
Yep, the "party of compassion" in action ladies and gentlemen. Imagine behaving that way and then being surprised at society's collective coordinated removal of you.
That is always something I have seen on that "type" of movie critic. There is not a single method they criticise they do not also use. Dogpiling, review bombing, censorship, and petty insults are all valid only when they do it.
As MovieBob said, there are no bad tactics, only bad targets.
Lots of people shitting on her don't even know she's black or a woman.@@proudsaiyanprince2651
What I don’t get is that Chris Stuckmann stopped “criticizing” movies because he wants to be a filmmaker in some capacity and believes this direction on his channel will help him achieve that goal. And then he goes on to criticize studio interference nonstop.
Which studio is actually going to hire you to make their film if you won’t let them make some forms of creative decisions. And even if he ends up making a movie with a studio and it bombs, then the studios are just going to be afraid that Stuckmann will blame their decisions or interference on the failure of the movie instead of taking some blame himself.
If he only wants to make independent films exclusively for creative control, then what’s the bloody harm in criticizing all movies fairly? Does he genuinely believe no actor/producer/cameraman/etc wouldn’t want to work with him if he critiques movies fairly?
Edit: Ok, Fringy brings up this point at 3:24:00. The producer Fringy has ruined my creative idea and destroyed my comment as a result.
He's basically signaling to the studios that he's going to be difficult to work with because he'll fight every decision, every note, and every suggestion they offer while still expecting their money. That's going to put some studios off. And because he's a newbie, he has no one in the industry to vouch for him. We know these "creatives" are willing to throw each other under the bus if it's convenient, and they'll do it to him, too.
He’s a paid shill and the shills are allowed to criticize faceless studios.
@@SUPREMELEGENDI don’t think you understand what a shill is
If anything he should be blaming the creatives and sucking up to the producers if he actually wanted to successfully grift his way into the industry.
I have no idea if Chris Stuckmann is really trying to be nice or if he's a total sellout, but it boils down to this: refusing to address negative aspects of a film is a complete dereliction of duty as a film critic, and he is doing his viewers an immense disservice by doing so. He has absolutely no business being called a "film critic" if he sticks to this.
Used car salesmen have higher professional standards than Stuckmann.
You have to watch to the end but I think Chris is legitimately worried about how his movie is gonna be received. If his reaction to the RLM joke is anything to go by, he doesn't handle criticism very well. And you can bet he is scared because the guns of criticism are pointed in HIS direction for once.
He’s no longer a film critic; he’s now a film celebrator.
And, yes, he’s a sellout.
@@NathanCassidy721How did he react again?
@@williamwallaceoftheus8033 It's in the video towards the end.
@@NathanCassidy721 Lol. I commented while listening and like 10 minutes later they showed his reaction. Thanks though
Building a bridge is hard, never criticize a construction company when a bridge fails.
No you mean criticise the company but don't shit on the workers (even though they were either unqualified to build it or didn't say anything about it being badly built or the architect because he only wanted to make his creative vision a reality. Nevermind that he might have put artistic vision above security or practicality.
Building a car is hard. So if you by a car and it keeps losing brakes and the doors keep jamming shut and don't open properly and the windscreen wipers aren't long enough and gearbox is out of alignment and you end up trapped in a fireball on the highway, don't criticize the car for being badly built. Don't criticize the designers or the engineers who designed the doors to open 40-degrees. Its the shareholders and execs of the company who imposed their bs on the designer's creativity. THAT'S why the car is a deathtrap.
He can say, movies can't cause mass death
@@Vario69Tell that to everyone who had brain cells murdered by this film.
Actually as a structural engineer I can tell you who usually gets blamed first lol
Holy crap, I've had people actively wish for the demise of my family and myself and I wasn't as upset about it as Stuckmann was when RLM called him a prick.
You don't get it, they were his IDOLS! He even gave them money! :D
Poor lad has some seriously stunted ability to handle even weak banter, no wonder he started panicking at the idea that his work might get criticised.
that's the wrong thumbnail, where's the ocean spray bottle?
No that was the madame web ep
@@roarshack5879no, it was this episodes thumbnail. It was Madame Web Flavored Stuckmann juice by Ocean Spray
I guess I've missed a meme because ep 273 also has an ocean spray thumbnail. So this was supposed to continue the ocean spray meme??
@roarshack5879 the meme is explained earlier. The thumbnail didn't update in time do the alert thumbnail was the Ocean spray thumbnail from the previous EFAP
_Where is the Madame Web Ocean Spray bottle? Is it safe? Is it all right?_
“Chris… I want the piss scene.”
- MooLer, 2024
Putin has the Trump piss scene tapes.
4:20:11
#ReleaseThePissCut
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RustCohleTXloads and loads.
"The studio just wants to retain the rights to a character, so they don't actually care about the project, so they heavily interfered with the project they don't care about." - Chris Stuckmann.
Nothing wrong here! /s
I wanted to make a joke in response but what do you even say about this? 😂 it’s just baffling.
they dont do that, no? most directors have made complaints about the studios messing with their scripts and micro managing their movies, wasn't half the internet crying because they wanted zach snyders version of his movie just a few years ago? we saw a perfect example of the studios interfering and remaking the movie different and changed it into what they wanted while not caring that the characters were being portrayed and stupid bumbling idiots. its clear they love involving themselves into projects, making changes and also dont care that the characters are shit hence the new age of whatever bs the studios want to preach
@@amandacantcometothephone in this video Chris said the studio probably didn’t care about this project and just wanted to retain rights so why would they even get involved if they didn’t care?
Look studios do interfere. Sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse. I think it’s probably more the latter when they’re changing what a good creator with a clear vision has made and then you have product placement stuff which, even when they can integrate it well into the film, is not something that was added because they thought it would elevate the art.
The main problem with Chris’ take is that he doesn’t have any idea what was caused by studio interference here yet he makes sweeping claims about the work which are unfair to the creatives behind it. If you want to have a mature discussion about this issue you need to have evidence to explain your points. He doesn’t even address when studios have made good suggestions to explain what the difference between those projects and Madame Web were. What is the role of the creatives if the studio is behind it all? How do we know when there was studio interference? Is it just when we think something sucks because that’s gonna be a lot of different projects depending on who you ask.
Chris doesn’t make any arguments and I don’t like how he talks about creatives. To be fair to him I don’t think it was intentional or that he really would agree with much that he said in this video if you say him down and presented basic research on this film that takes less than a minute to find or if you just asked him to explain his claims in more depth. Those are the issues people are taking about his studio takes. I think it’s hapless rather than malicious here though. It doesn’t seem like he workshopped these claims very much. The video doesn’t give any real insight and that’s the most neutral thing I can say about it.
"You should never criticise people who do the thing I want to do in the future, so you can never criticise me"
Chris is not someone who is loved 👏 he’s an idea
I honestly want to see his film that he says was in production but got delayed. If it releases and its anywhere near the level of his directing and writing on his past short films, then good fucking luck to him.
He criticised studio execs, so I don't think you can call him a coward.
In an amorphous, unspecific sense so that he could take all the heat off the "creatives" which is a "class" that he wishes to now consider himself a part of. I'm sure if he ever became part of the industry ingroup deep enough to work as a studio exec they'd also suddenly become part of his hallowed groups as well (like how Bernie railed against the "millionaires & billionaires" til he became a millionaire and he suddenly only criticized the "billionaires").@@Relugus
@@RelugusNo one called him a coward in this comment thread? Chris is also not criticizing the actual filmmakers and only went after the corporation and the execs, which is honestly what I think he wants to happen when he releases his film and people think its shite.
We are reaching spineless levels that should not be possible
You'd think not having a spine would be the limit, but stuckmann is actively growing a negative backbone
To quote Theodore Roosevelt, he has "the spine of a chocolate eclair."
Man, who would've guessed Chris Stuckman was replaced by a Skrull
Chris Skrullman
Get Skrullmannized!
More like a pod person, no emotions
4:43:33 When Angry Joe can dunk on you and everyone agrees with his take, you done truly fucked up.
Angry Joe has some bad media takes, but at least he always seemed to be honest and adhere to some standards.
@@ChickenKingTW I will say for as bad as his Movie/TV takes are, he has always had a great insight on reviewing. If you actually ask him or listen to how he thinks a critic should present their argument, you would be shocked by how much you'd find yourself nodding your head in agreement.
@@NathanCassidy721 That's because he was a very talented and insightful reviewer prior to getting lazy and getting lost in politics.
@@FisherTheOtter Even post-2016 he still has that mindset. The only thing that I don't like about his review system is using the long outdated 10-point system (10 outta 10).
@@NathanCassidy721What kind of metric would you prefer?
Madame Web suffered from a large budget you guys dont understand how limiting that can be!!!!
The only suffering going on is the people watching Madame Web
It's really kinda funny that Blade Trinity got brought up, that one is a great example of how too much creative freedom can be a problem.
David Goyer was the writer who basically created the modern version of Blade with the first movie, it was like his personal project and his idea (Blade in the old comics was much different from movie Blade)
He also wrote for Blade 2
But for Blade Trinity he was both writer and director (and producer as well if I'm not mistaken) and the studio seemed to think he could do no wrong.
It was his first time directing, and he would talk about how he would get in arguments with himself over what needed to be cut or stay in from each perspective and how it became very stressful- likely leading to many of the issues with that movie.
He also didn't really seem to run the production as a tight ship, there were a lot of pranks and jokes and stuff disrupting the process, including Goyer himself getting in on the pranking.
If I remember right that was a part of the reason Snipes got angry
The other lead actors and Goyer and the some of the crew seemed to have fun, but it wasn't really super professional which Snipes always struck me as being
That JLongbone guy really stepped in it this time. Got all them crazies after him.
*her
Yeah that dude really got mafks out for his manly ass
@@shan4680that would be the joke
3:11:50 Drinker's comment here reflects an experience I had. I sent my second novel off to my agent and she said it would work better if I removed one of the characters. He'd been in the book from chapter 2 onwards. I removed him and realised she was right; I gave his bits to other characters and it tightened up the whole story. Sometimes the creative person is the last one to see what needs doing to his creation. (And for the record, this was in the days before I had a computer, so the whole book had to be retyped manually.)
You make a good point Mauler, but have you considered telling it to Zod's snapped neck?
Dafuq? How is that Better Help stuff not a massive HIPAA violation?
Those carry ***massive*** fines and potential jail time.
They've been majorly fined and sited by FTC already. It's just the whole idea behind the service is so some dudes could make bank... it was NEVER about legitimate and compassionate mental health care. You couldn't PAY me to use them. They're literally like a cancer and everything wrong with the profiteering off of unwell people.
There's a saying/philosophy in writing. "Your first idea is never your best idea. Never settle for your first idea. Have a fifth idea. What about a fiftieth idea? Go. Work at it. Mold it. Do the work."
Chris Stuckmann is a critic who seems to terminally attached to his very first thoughts, his first opinions, his first ideas, and after he produces his first draft of these ideas, he then hits "publish" and that's what his channel is.
When RedLetterMedia made fun of Chris and quite *_clearly_* hurt his feelings, instead of making a pathetic response video trying to downplay it and convince himself he wasn't really upset; if he had any wit he could have just tweeted:
"Oh.... Well I guess now I know how Mike felt when he got 'cyber bullied' by his idol William Shatner."
That would've been hilarious
Armoured Skeptic got called a prick in the same frame as Chris, and that guy easily laughed it off. HE knew what the deal was.
These are matters of being or not being socially oblivious.
He was like a former Jaova Witness so Chris has social awkwardness
'Stuckmannization' is not a fate I would wish upon my worst enemies...
It’s actually pronounced ‘cuckmannization’
If we were to count the number of times Chris has said “I love movies,” or something to that effect, and the number of times Fringy has referenced The Simpsons on EFAP, which would be higher? 😂
Stuckmann, but only by like 0.05%
Or how many times he says or implies he's a filmmaker?
Either way, if you make a drinking game out of either one, and ESPECIALLY both, you’re dead
The moral of the story:
“REAL” criticism and “ACTUAL” analysis is when you defer any and all issues with a film to the boogeyman studio heads and producers. This is incredibly mature and helpful for creatives, because telling them they’re perfect and that they only ever fail due to vague, unproven sabotage always leads to great things
"Praising movies is the only joy I get in life" - Chris StuckUpMann
I hope this meme never dies.
I'm imagining his wife passing outside the door to his man cave and overhearing him say that.
@@jonbaxter2254 "Its an EFAP meme, they never die till they are dead." - Bilbous Bigideas Bagginsinssss
A silent prayer to all the Irish and Chinese who died constructing the creative railroads we are all reliant upon to this day.
Amen. ✌❤🙏
Someone had to do it. And that someone, was them.
Coward is the correct word for anyone who is unwilling to call anything bad
Coward and hypocrite, because he absolutely calls this movie bad by omission, otherwise he'd be praising it.
His entire sixteen minute video was an editorial on studios injecting themselves into the creative process of filmmakers, and he used Madame Web as an example. His video wasn’t about the pros or cons of the movie, the quality, the presentation, the acting, directing, cinematography, etc, it was literally about how he thinks studios expose themselves in the creative process. Everything he talks about was from that perspective. He didn’t lie or anything. He was open and honest about this at the beginning of the video when he said “this isn’t a review on Madame Web.”
@@Indigo_Gaming And plus he literally made an entire series dedicated to reviewing bad moves.
@@Indigo_Gaming So every movie he does not talk about is immediately assumed bad by omission? This is illogical. There is such a thing as unremarkable or neutral movies, not everything is just good or bad.
@@B1G_WENGH Are you his alt? Only being positive and never calling a turd a turd will do nothing for movies aside from allowing even more turds to be produced. We all know the reason he does this is because he doesn't want to close doors for himself. This means whenever he talks about movies you know his opinion is worthless because he will censor himself and not give you his real opinion and just say it's good no matter what issues it has. The madam web video might not be a review but he still does them, making him a critic and his exclusively positive approach makes his opinions as a critic useless and biased.
Stuckman's simps skins are so thin, they lose their minds over a very lukewarm ribbing by JLongbone.
Imagine what would happen if Jlong went full scorched earth.
They have skin?
“Mauler’s army coming to the defense of Ms. Longbone.”
As someone who's only seen Chris Stuckmann through efap, it was jarring as fuck to see the man actually emote and move in the compilation of his old stuff.
It’s amazing that what took his audience to turn on him was to *explicitly* state he wasn’t going to review a movie…as if he was doing real reviews beforehand.
It’s also funny how his own audience is turning on him so hard, meanwhile Twitter is insisting that he is what all reviewers should be like
@@unpopularopinions7407and that's why Twitter is retarded
@@unpopularopinions7407Twitter is where ideas and free thought go to die…..
@@unpopularopinions7407Twitter is torn between getting traction because it can be monetized and ignorant people either having no idea what Chris has become or those who are from subjective/positivity crowd
I just realized, Stuckmann tries to argue that the absurdity of One Piece is a result of the current state of Hollywood, but the Netflix show is adapting stuff that was written over 20 years ago. He really doesn't do any research, does he?
This is an all-star EFAP for sure
Assembled for an Avengers level threat.
Stuckmann’s video is the ultimate Theo ender. Not only does he take forever to get to the topic he doesn’t even talk about the movie in the title
I hope that the "you don't like our movies because you hate women" narrative will die after this movie's box office results get published - because the movie ends with a woman blind and paralyzed, misogynists ought to love "Madame Web".
Stuckmann is spitting in the faces of the people who he wants to be his boss, to defend the honor of people he’s deluded himself into thinking are his peers. How can you be this assbackwards on accident
Dude. Thank you so much for saying that lmao. I’ve been telling my friends that the dude clearly never worked a real job a day in his life, due to his dumbass idea that it makes more logic to get on camera and insult his potential bosses, rather than the talentless, current-wave of hacks that he’s surrounded by. Dude is a fucking idiot.
Stuckman seems like the kind of guy to blow on his ice cream before eating it.
He eats spaghetti with a spoon.
He eats soup with a straw.
He eats pizza with a knife and fork.
I've done that while drunk. I'm not alone, I know it
A fifth deep and freshly baked.. i feel you 😂😂@@jonathansoko1085
Chris went from being Stuckmanized to getting Stuckmanated.
Stuckmaneuthanized.
Stuckamanateed?
Stuckered.
If working under the studio system is so horrible as he makes it out to be, why is he so adamant to get there to be disappointed with the "clueless producers"? Boggles the mind...
Chris Stuckmann looks like someone most of the way through succumbing to a zombie bite.
Edit: His beard is draining his critical thinking. It has to be. He's become more neutral as it's grown longer.
What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for good reviews? Facial hair? Or was Stuckmann just born with a heart full of neutrality?
I get that people do work on films. All films have that. But to sugarcoat criticism because they might get offended is why there's such visceral reaction whenever someone has negative opinions on a film. "Toxic positivity" can be just as reductive as "toxic negativity."
Memes aside, what HAPPENED to this dude? Did he have some kind of traumatic experience a couple years ago? His entire demeanor is completely different now to the point where he just seems like a lifeless husk of the man that used to be Chris Stuckmann
He just wants in to the big boys hollywood club. Thats about it.
In his video about leaving the Jehova's Witnesses 3 years ago he also mentioned that his parents and siblings went no contact due to the religion playing such a controlling factor in their lives. However it was also clear when showed a picture of his wife, that she is a progressive who likely doesn't get on with his family. She likely wanted to change him, forced him to leave the religion and abandon his family, encourage him to make a video to justify it all and make it permanent. His videos and personality have never really been the same since.
5:01:00, There's a chance that him stopping being a Jehovah's Witness is actually part of the drain. When you quit they do a thing called disfellowship you, which basically is shunning.
So if most of his friends and family were part of the church then they'd basically be told by the church to no longer associate with him. If that's the case then it could have taken a pretty heavy emotional toll.
5h EFAP? What is it, UA-cam Shorts?!
Thought this was the highlights channel
It needs to be at least... 3 times bigger than this!
This is a short EFAP, but it's not ILLEGALLY short..... you've earned a Peepo Sus, EFAP crew.... Say no to illegally short EFAPS!
Don't find the EFAP Highlights channel. LOL
It makes up for it by being a surprise stream that wasn't a trailer reaction.
@@mrshmuga9 lol yeah...that MAdame Web EFAP just being a trailer confused me for like an hour and a half.
I think we should only be throwing out something as harsh as a Peepo Sus for FAPs under 4hrs. But I'm not really sure which we should use for that foggy 4-6hr period.
Peepo Sus sounds like something a slur would say
Stuckmann is TOTALLY avoiding to make any more film criticism to "promote positivity" so that he can get fewer people criticizing his own movies. This is the same guy who had a freakout over Rich Evans jokingly calling him a pr*ck. His skin is as thin as tissue paper.
Listen, I'm no filmmaker or screenwriter. I am also not a 5-star restaurant chef, but I don't need to be one to tell when food has spoiled ... Just like how I don't need to be a filmmaker to tell when I'm watching a bad movie.
I don't even mind if he's thin-skinned and wants "positive vibes only" or whatever. It's good that he recognizes that he can't take it, so he doesn't dish it.
The problem I have is that he doesn't admit his insecurities to his audience, because he knows they would take him less seriously as a reviewer/filmmaker if they knew how sensitive he was.
I'm somewhat sympathetic towards Stuckmann, because his entire income is based on a façade of pseudo-intellect he's touted for his room-temperature IQ audience, and it's scary to lose that.
His thin skin is why he has to film in the dark all the time. He's so pasty that the British say wtf
Wait, this incredibly bland and boring person is trying to make movies?
@@SwiftNimblefoot Yes. He made Notes from Melanie, which EFAP covered.
@@dragonknightleader1 spoilers: it wasn't very good.
I like how whenever someone has to leave, Mauler announces it himself first. It's like he just randomly decides to kick someone off mid show. At any moment, Mauler could just decide that it's time for you to leave! No provocation, no warning, he just says it out of the blue and that's it, you're off.
“Drinker, take the L O N G W A L K!”
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Isnt the entire competitive edge of Stuckmanns channel the fact he made a film and has an education in directing, thus would have a better understanding of the trials of being a film maker than some random joe?
Chris. You cant just pick and choose when your knowledge base is useful about something.
While your point is valid, MauLer and Drinker are two "random joes" who have never directed a movie.
Whereas Uwe Bowel and Tommy Wiseau have both directed multiple movies.
I'd love to listen to the latter about their experiences making their films, but crikey, I've no interest in hearing what they think constitutes good filmmaking or how stories should be told.
Good point. The funny thing is, I think he went to film school after he started his doing movie reviews on UA-cam, and the reviews he makes after film school are just as unsubstantial as the reviews he made before film school. The only difference is that he was mildly funnier in the past. Now he just seems tired, but he tries to pass the fatigue off as intelligence, but it just makes him look pretentious. Or, to use someone else's words, it makes him look like a prick.
@@captbuckyohare5585Let's not forget the genius of Neil Breen.
It's quite embarrassing when a 13-second Google search can refute the base of your entire argumentation.
Agreed. When Critical Drinker released his Venom two review and stated Sony Studios’ meddling was the cause for that movie and Venom one, Amazing Spider-Man one and two, and Spider-Man three being bad, I was like, “wait, where’s your evidence for this statement, Drinker?” I looked on Google and was able to discredit Drinker’s statement on all the movies he’s listed. Guess he didn’t learn, though, because he made the same claims about Sony when he released his Morbius review
@bigguy4x418
It was really weird when Drinker became the mais host of EFAP and started posting all EFAP content to his channel
@@B1G_WENGHi was of the opinion that reshoots are always due to studio demands? Or do they dish out more millions because the scriptwriter changed their minds?
@@wadenbeisser2491exactly reshoots are a studio thing correct? Wasn’t bob iger pushing for reshoots???
maybe we were too harsh on YMS during his debate with Drinker
The Mauler Maulitia stands ready.
Truly a Maulerized moment
^.-.^ Seventh ArMauled Battalion, standing by!
Here before all the Chris Stuckmann simps and r/saltierthankrayt members find this video and whine about the EFAP crew daring to insult their opinion validating husbando.
Something that's been hilarous from the fallout of Madame Web, is that all the mcu stans are now saying that Sony should absolutely hand over the Spider-Man rights to Marvel Entertainment, or to Feige specifically. And whenever I ask them "Why would Sony ever decide to do that?" I can never get an actual answer from them.
The best part is the AI reading of the Better Help article on top of his ad😂
To add onto the conversation about the purity of the creator’s artistic imagination in contrast to the soulless emptiness of the executive suit who doesn’t understand anything, I would like to draw everyone’s attention to Andrei Konchalovsky’s Nutcracker 3D/The Untold Story, a film that he directed, produced and wrote.
And no, your memory isn’t failing you, this is the one where the rats are dressed like Nazis and the Rat King does a musical number while overseeing a Holocaust of toys they go out of their way to establish are still alive as they’re burnt in a giant pile… again, with a rat that looks like Andy Warhol singing over it.
Do you think that this is something that should never be interfered with under any circumstances to respect the creative vision? Or do you think there should have been someone with money who had the ability to say “Hey… maybe no?”
What would Chris have to say about that? Would he look at a project that was unquestionably this creator’s vision and still blame studio interference? Would he admit that this idiotic perspective is as silly as it sounds? Or would he commit and say that a scene which has stuck with me for nearly 20 years because of how sick I feel about it is nothing but pure genius because it was a creative vision?
I just do not understand how he’s fallen in love with the idea of making movies so much that the obvious notion that a creative person can be wrong just no longer occurs to him anymore.
He'd probably cop out saying "it's not for me, but he got to complete his vision". Which of course is stupid because if it's "just for you" with absolutely no care to what other people think, they why make it publicly available? Because obviously on some level he wants attention or people to like/engage with it. It's not mandated that anything you make HAS to be accessible. I've made things for friends that only they've seen even though I could put it out there. But once you put it out, you can't complain when other people have thoughts on it.
The studio execs changed the ending of Pitch Black so that Riddick lives and the captain dies because Riddick would be more marketable for sequels. I would argue that was not a bad decision, even though I hate the 2nd film.
I am glad to know, that person from my country made a lot of people sick with this movie)
that's madame web. she's got my back. her web connects us all through fate. i was with her mother in the amazon researching spiders. right before she died.
I would suggest not insulting her: her premonitions give her a killer comeback every time!
So apparently this level of fence sittery is unique to Chris because his comments are having a fuckin AA meeting about it to the point where Angry Joe typed a whole dissertation about criticism and it's benefits in the comments of his video.
"It's so unfair that your boss can tell you what to do." -Chris Stuckmann probably
“What do you mean ‘this tax audit wasn’t made correctly’ ? Why are you trying to hinder my artistic freedom boss ?”
@@nathanjora7627Autistic Freedom.
cant wait for "Positivity is implied" by Chris Stuckmann
I am holding fast on my MCU conspiracy theory. Inexperienced writers and directors are getting MCU jobs because they are either using their once in a lifetime favor or burning their bridges in some way to get the job. MCU has become so big that if you only had one favor, one bridge to burn, or one use of nepotism in your life your gonna spend it on that. We don't know how connected or related to decision makers these inexperienced people are.
LOL so they're making a deal with the devil, essentially.
They get hired for their skin color, gender, and sexual orientation. It's not that complicated.
Wow, hearing you defend producers was such an unexpected but very welcome balm for the soul. I'm not in the movie industry, I'm a game producer but the same still applies for us too, we're often the punching bags, the ones to blame for all failures who never get any credit for a success. So, thank you! ❤
I was constantly saying "Wonder Woman 1984" to my screen. Amd then Fringy or Cap brought it up.
Watch the deleted scenes from Captain Marvels and The Marvels. Those movies are trash. The director shot those scenes with the intention to include them in the movie. But at least someone at Disney had the foresight to say, "cut it out". We don't know why those scenes were cut, whether it was some exec who saw the light or just to save runtime. Either way, The Captain Marvel deleted scenes are just eye-rolling girlboss cringe. But THE MARVELS scene is downright creepy and not comedic at all.
Tbh videogame producers have been an issue since 2014, I don't want to hate, but people are rightfully suspicious
@@Lampoluke Sure, a few sh*theads always manage to f*ck everything up for everyone else in any industry. You're right to be suspicious/cautious.
But I do hope you don't think every producer is like those loud few at the very top.
(And once again a lot of blame gets placed on the producers' shoulders when it's mostly the directors and CEOs and COOs who make the final decisions and we're left to put everything together and fit it within their demands. Usually.)
I have no idea where my comment disappeared to. Ha, that's giving me flashbacks, actually! :D
You are right to feel apprehensive, suspicious or at the very least cautious. I still hope you know not all producers are talentless hacks who only want to make their (often alleged) hobbies worse in order to push the MESSAGE!!! There's so many talented and passionate people/even producers, believe it or not, here who really want to make their hobby of choice better but CAN'T.
@@valentinegonsalves7322
Dare I ask what the marvels deleted scene was and why it was creepy?
"Those who can - do, those who can't - Stuckmanize."
- Chrisbo Stuckmins
22:10 Eric July answered the question whether culture critics can be comic book writers with a resounding, 3D asset-assisted NO.
It turns out longman was infected shortly after this stream! They got him!
it's the biggest misconception of modern society, that good artists just fall from the sky and are just GOOD. art IS HARD and EVERY artist, writer, creator ect is a bad artist first, and gets better with learning from trial, error and.... CRITISISM. not every critisim is educated & constructive (aka usefull to the skill), but educated, constructive critisim is HOW artists grow to the great artists they are. if you can't take, nor give constructive critisism, you gonna have a haaaaaaaaard time in any creative industry. and chris is the perfect representation of that struggle. he is scared to be bad, scared to critic bad, scared to accept bad, when bad is the start of the journey, and neccecary to EVERY creative person. amazing artists do not fall from the sky like magic.
Will Mauler or Little Platoon do a dramic reading of his published tome?
I think they already did. There’s a video of it on the highlights channel.
An executive producer saying "I don't understand your decisions but I trust you completely" to a creative director also counts as a studio decision. Do they get credit for that when the end product is good?
In the southern USA there is a saying: "Bless your heart". This is sometimes confusing to people not used to southern culture, because it sounds harmless, but is actually the most heinous insult a southerner could say about someone. The implication is that there is nothing good about the person's abilities, intelligence, moral character, appearance, life choices, or relationships so the only way they could expect something nice to happen is if it's a miracle from God. Perhaps Stuckmann could realize that many people in the world speak passive-aggressive more expertly than he does and it doesn't come off well to others when you do it ineptly.
It's as bad as that? I thought it was just a patronising remark along the lines of "bless your cotton socks, you sweet ignorant summer child".
@@o00nemesis00o It's pretty bad. People usually don't get into a fistfight over it if they realize the person saying it doesn't know what it means, but people's heads will turn if you say in in public.
Dude, where the hell do you live in the south where that phrase has all that ridiculous baggage to it? I'm a ways down past the mason-dixon myself and I've never heard it used as anything but a simple pitying comment on someone who is naive, stupid, or incapable in some way.
@@TheRealJabbergeist I'm in Texas, which is not genuinely southern, but I learned it from my grandparents who are very much trained in southern etiquette. If you just want to say someone is dumb, you call them "cute" or "sweet". If you want to say someone is rude and dumb, you call them "northern". If you want to say go fuck yourself in hell, you say "bless your heart". There are tons of people who use it incorrectly, just as there are many people who use big words incorrectly because they don't know what they mean. If you want a video example of someone using the phrase correctly, watch Pecos Hank's "Stupid Tornado Chasing- Dangerous Behavior" from about 8:34.
Also from Texas and I have never heard the phrase used that way lol
Throwing away his miraculously successful youtube career by refusing to do what his channel was built upon for a career that isn't promising to say the least
"Its a bold strategy cotton let's see how it pays off for him"
I'm in favor of Mauler start to call his community "The Long Ones".
I'll stick with massives.
@@SoridanThe Long Massives?
>studio doesnt care
Ok
>therefore, they interfered a lot
Whoa, what? Chris dum
46:29
The exact moment I realized JLongBone was in the pod. What's with her lately? She used to be so energetic and enthusiastic about the topics being brought up, but lately she's been so quiet and downlow I barely even notice she's there. Same thing happened in the Madame Wb episode.
I hope she's okay and it's just a phase cause she's too funny and adds way too much happyness to the podcast to be wasted.
Remember, don't write anything mean or negative when reviewing content, because they inflict damage on my feelings, and offends my eyes and brain.
He seemed like a fun guy in those old clips. Maybe it's because he wanted to get his foot in the door as a director or maybe it's because he's a family man now. Either way, a real shame he lost that spark.
Y'know.... as an amateur writer, I absolutely CRAVE hard criticism. Nothing is worse, to me, than someone just "trying to be nice" to me. How in the hell can I possibly improve at the craft if people only ever tell me "Yeah, this is good" or whatever? Sure, tell things that you like, tell me what's working. BUT! ALSO tell me what is NOT working! What's missing? What can I do to make my writing better? What am I missing? What have I overlooked? Arguably, one learns more from criticism than they do from praise.
Fr. I made some flash-cards for teaching and a dude not knowing I made them said off-hand "That pizza does NOT look good. . ."
And now I know how to draw pizza that look good. Because I know what not to do.
I feel you, since I have the exact same issue. It's ridiculously hard to get any kind of constructive criticism. Out of a 100 comments, 90 will say "This is really good", 9 will say "I don't like X character/development/plot device, therefore the whole story is trash", and 1 will say "Hey, there's an inconsistency here, you might want to fix it". Reviews are even worse, because bad ones just get extremely over-represented, and most of the time, their criticism is completely worthless for improving the story (e.g.: "It's boring.", or "This character annoys me", or my favorite "I thought this story was going to be about X, it was actually about Y, therefore it's bad"). How is anyone supposed to gleam insight out of that?
Makes me wonder if his agent or whatever sat chris down to say “uh dude these people will watch your stuff and try to have you blacklisted.”
As someone who used to watch Stuckman vids I’m embarrassed for both him being nothing but a shill and myself for giving him the time of day. Looking back he was a surface level reviewer and now he’s not even that
- "Its fine. I mean i was fine"
But in fact he was not fine.
Chris Stuckmann is to film criticism what Jodie Whittaker is to being The Doctor.
In name only. Adding nothing. Yet presented and operating with an air of empty importance just waiting for someone to notice how nothing they are.
4:05:32 Also, even with regards to Marvel not giving VFX workers adequate time, it's still possible and valid to critize the directors for making poor choices which add burdens to the artists, especially for unimportant scenes.
I know he's comparing how you don't blame the artist themselves, but the studio, so he's not talking about directors in this comparison, but it's relevant because even with his best example, not all the blame is always on the studio. Plus the video Browntable's defending is promoting that you never bring this, or other such things, up at all.
Even AngryJoe commented on the video and told Chris the truth LMAO
I had a dream last night that Mauler started dating a girl called Meeler and she Yokoed the EFAP crew
That’s absurd. Rags would never let someone else lick MauLers 🥜.
Southpaw tried to fill that role
Where did he learn to critique movies?
ON A FARM?
WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!?
His solution is for investors and producers to fork over millions of dollars to "creatives" and then shut up and go away and take whatever they get. I don't think many will want to invest.
Hail to Fringy defending those of us in retail and fast food. When someone says that these are easy jobs that lets me know they are a privilaged person who never had to work a bottom of the barrel job in their life.
Every time somebody mentions SJ Clarkson, I think they're talking about Jeremy Clarkson. Then I think of the possibilities and I can't stop laughing.
Everytime they say 'SJ' I think they're gonna say sjw
I love the part where Christ Stuckmann said "It's Stuckman time" and stuckmanized all over everyone. Truly one of the experiences I've had
Was stuckmanized on. Can confirm.
Its been awhile since I spent 5 hours watching the Longman rip on a bad youtuber. Oh how I'm glad I've come back to this.
MauLer released a stream shorter than 6 hours is he feeling okay?
PLEASE keep making these Keys to KO videos.
Not only do they illustrate the techniques used, but they also can be an oppurtunity to highlight lesser known and/or appreciated boxers that had moments of brillance in their career.
Ya know, I'm not very familiar with Chris Stuckman, but seeing this gives me the impression that when the Oscars are happening he's on his couch, watching with baited breath and then lets out a shocked gasp, covers his mouth before starting to clap while shaking his head
Got an ad for betterhelp directly after the video mentioned their dodgy data practices!
Tin Foil Hat Mode: I think these writers must be the version 1.0 Of Disney's Life Model Decoy.
-Scary times indeed...
This is a 10/10 title!
Whoever came up with it, gets extra karma points today.
Francois Trufaut became a film director and that didnt stop him from telling the truth about Britain's mediocre film "industry".
Speaking of "celebration of movies" if Stuckmann knew a thing or two about movie criticism, he would know that THAT is a part of movie celebration! Siskel & Ebert are a big reason of what made me love movies. They covered everything so they made me discover a lot of movies I would not have known without them. And they also made me laugh talking about movies that sucked. And it this did not detract me for loving movies in general. Quite the opposite cause it's supposed to be fun. Comparisons are fine. This movie is good, this movie is bad. That's part of the game. And it helps us identify quality.
And RiffTrax and MST3K. A lot of film lovers enjoy seeing them rip into bad movies.
@@hope-cat4894 I love Rifftrax.
I’ve done work in 0 budget, out of pocket feature length films and multi-million dollar sets as various positions from PA to writer to director. At what point am I allowed to criticize Stuckmann’s statement? I think I’ve pulled ahead of him resume wise already. If I’m bonafide enough for the Twitter randos, I’d be saying a lot of what the stream is saying. Producers “buy their way” into having say, but they’re crucial elements and deserve a say. All the producers I’ve worked with have been incredible people and mainly only speak up when they really have something to say. They weren’t Marvel or Disney level producers, but Stuckmann didn’t make that distinction either. Producers have their eye on everything on the set, they’re not just there to throw money. Even if it’s all business to them and no passion, they’re there and doing work. Let them speak.
It goes without saying that was isn’t said is just as important as what is said and Stuckmann doesn’t say a LOT. What he does said is pretty empty and useless too, but he’s very verbose in what he doesn’t say. It’s incredible to think he’s not super harsh in this video. Madame Web wasn’t just not worth him even attempting to review properly, but it wasn’t even worth looking into more. If you used my video as a vehicle to talk about something entirely else based entirely on your own assumptions without even trying, I don’t know what to take about that other than an insult.