HELLO LEGENDS - Wait until the end as I have a question that I can't answer! Also, you can join this channel to get access to the TWO HOUR Live Lounge: ua-cam.com/channels/cJQrK9RyAVU_8aTrtMaoDQ.htmljoin We've got about 30 Members, but the more the merrier. You only have to sign-up for a month, for the price of a cup of coffee, and funds will go into buying kit and better locks for the channel. And, I promise you a great time, let's build this legendary community!
On your first attempt you DID get set bounce on 5, but over lifted 6. When 6 was over lifted, there was a little bounce, due to the tiny gap between lifter and pin. Second attempt, set bounce on 5, but no bounce on 6 ... BECAUSE the Lishi blade ever so slightly OVERLIFTED pin 6, thus leaving it solid - however, not enough to stop the core from turning when all other pins were picked. Pushing down slightly on the Lishi pick will tilt the blade UP accidently, thus over lifting pin 6 by a bee's dick - no set bounce. Just another tip - this will often help with the Lishi. Place the tip of a key ( or key blank ) into the keyway and heavily torque the key. Slam the key fully in and release. Repeat a few times. This smooths the pin chambers (and the pins) thus allowing the springy pin lifter to do a better job. Then lube. The Lishi will feel "smoother" with better feed back.
Oooooh, this makes sense. I'm going to strip the lock and have a look (when I get some time) but your detailed reply is much appreciated. Picking the lock wasn't a problem, I just couldn't work out what was going on with 5 and 6, and it would seem you have nailed it! Nice one, Mr Hignett, that's a great answer and thank you for taking the time to explain. I think this: "BECAUSE the Lishi blade ever so slightly OVERLIFTED pin 6, thus leaving it solid - however, not enough to stop the core from turning when all other pins were picked" is the bit I missed, as it makes total sense. I like the 'cleaning' idea too, with a key to smooth everything out. I've never done that, but there have definitely been instances in the past where it would have helped. Amazing, thank you very much! Do you have a UA-cam channel?
@@LockPickingLegend No UA-cam channel, just a retired Locksmith and Safe tech for over 60 years. Just enjoy watching you guys on Locksport etc. from Adelaide ( Down under) (🙂)
Wow, it must be quite interesting for you to have been in the game that long and have seen the changes and now there's people on UA-cam picking locks, I bet you never saw that coming! Thanks again for your answer. It helped me and will probably help a few other people.@@brianhignett8954
@@LockPickingLegendI don't think anyone in our Trade could predict the explosion of information that came about due to the Internet. Lock picking, bumping, combination lock manipulation etc. etc. was pretty well kept in house, as were the tools, picks etc. and only sold to Locksmiths - how things have changed! The actual lock picking skills I see on UA-cam, are often better than most Locksmiths, however having said that, Locksmithing in the real world, is a LOT different than just picking locks of course. The thrill of successfully picking a tricky lock never leaves you, it is a diminishing skill, but Oh so addictive !!
Thank you. Sometimes a simple how to video helps people who need it. It might not get the clicks, but it gets the locks open! Thanks for the comment, always appreciated.
These are great picks, but people buy them thinking the pick will do the work. Like buying some brushes and paints and wondering why you haven't painted the Mona Lisa.
Well that was very interesting and very clearly explained - thanks Legend. If I ever get any Lishi/style picks I shall remember that _(or probably come back and watch this again)._ Cheers.
Hello Quakes. There's a long story behind the Lishi picks. These pin-cylinder picks are relatively new, as Lishi originally made picks for vehicles (they still do, obvs) and there's over a hundred of them. They're lock specific (rather than vehicle specific) because many vehicle brands will use the same lock type. If you're interested, here's a blog on the story of the Lishi pick: www.ukbumpkeys.com/blogs/news/yale-lishi-style-lock-picks-for-eurolocks-and-rim-cylinders
@@LockPickingLegend That was an interesting read. Kudos for taking your time, testing, adjusting and then releasing your version when you were happy with the end result. And, as history has shown - it was the right decision. Cheers.
That's cool that you read it, nice one. And yes, it takes a long time to get something right, and even then there's problems. Even top computing companies, hardware and software can't promise 100% functioning as they need people to actually use them for a while to try out every possible - potential - problem. I remember buying my second iPhone and it just didn't work. it functioned but the screen would flicker occasionally and a few other annoying things. And if Apple can't get it right! Anyway, thank you for reading that, I often link people to blogs and videos and I always wonder if they bother! Good to know!@@Quaker521
Great explanation and diagram of what was going on inside the lock. I would say you got no springy bounce perhaps because the springs for those chambers were compressed thus giving no feedback or perhaps the springs and the drivers both were compressed against each other because of the length of the driver pin and the length of the spring. Have you gutted the lock to see what is inside. If the driver pin stacks are not balanced to the keypins then the driver pins may be too long for that chamber thus compressing the spring and no springy bounce for you. Just guessing, cheers
Hey Pocket Woman. This was my first thought, but it couldn't be, because it would cause too much problem for a key - how would the key push the pin up into the bible if there wasn't enough room, especially when the key comes at the pins at an angle, and not below like the Lishi pick. But as I said, that was my first thought. And yes, next step, open it up - video to follow! I think Brian Hignett has got the right answer (see above).
Yes, I forgot to tell you, once you're in, there's no leaving. Each video is a series of encrypted hypnotic mental coding mechanisms. Hmm, maybe I should have said something earlier? Oh dear.
A pleasure. Brian Hignett answered the question about pins 5 and 6 too (unless that's what you're talking about?) anyway, thank you for watching and leaving a comment, much appreciated.
Is it binding? Is it hard? Everyday is a school day and I watched this video twice. The Latex Nun is a distraction. No!! She does make it harder to concentrate.
HELLO LEGENDS - Wait until the end as I have a question that I can't answer! Also, you can join this channel to get access to the TWO HOUR Live Lounge:
ua-cam.com/channels/cJQrK9RyAVU_8aTrtMaoDQ.htmljoin
We've got about 30 Members, but the more the merrier. You only have to sign-up for a month, for the price of a cup of coffee, and funds will go into buying kit and better locks for the channel. And, I promise you a great time, let's build this legendary community!
On your first attempt you DID get set bounce on 5, but over lifted 6. When 6 was over lifted, there was a little bounce, due to the tiny gap between lifter and pin. Second attempt, set bounce on 5, but no bounce on 6 ... BECAUSE the Lishi blade ever so slightly OVERLIFTED pin 6, thus leaving it solid - however, not enough to stop the core from turning when all other pins were picked. Pushing down slightly on the Lishi pick will tilt the blade UP accidently, thus over lifting pin 6 by a bee's dick - no set bounce. Just another tip - this will often help with the Lishi. Place the tip of a key ( or key blank ) into the keyway and heavily torque the key. Slam the key fully in and release. Repeat a few times. This smooths the pin chambers (and the pins) thus allowing the springy pin lifter to do a better job. Then lube. The Lishi will feel "smoother" with better feed back.
Thanks for the tip. I'll try that.
Oooooh, this makes sense. I'm going to strip the lock and have a look (when I get some time) but your detailed reply is much appreciated. Picking the lock wasn't a problem, I just couldn't work out what was going on with 5 and 6, and it would seem you have nailed it! Nice one, Mr Hignett, that's a great answer and thank you for taking the time to explain. I think this: "BECAUSE the Lishi blade ever so slightly OVERLIFTED pin 6, thus leaving it solid - however, not enough to stop the core from turning when all other pins were picked" is the bit I missed, as it makes total sense.
I like the 'cleaning' idea too, with a key to smooth everything out. I've never done that, but there have definitely been instances in the past where it would have helped. Amazing, thank you very much! Do you have a UA-cam channel?
@@LockPickingLegend No UA-cam channel, just a retired Locksmith and Safe tech for over 60 years. Just enjoy watching you guys on Locksport etc. from Adelaide ( Down under) (🙂)
Wow, it must be quite interesting for you to have been in the game that long and have seen the changes and now there's people on UA-cam picking locks, I bet you never saw that coming! Thanks again for your answer. It helped me and will probably help a few other people.@@brianhignett8954
@@LockPickingLegendI don't think anyone in our Trade could predict the explosion of information that came about due to the Internet. Lock picking, bumping, combination lock manipulation etc. etc. was pretty well kept in house, as were the tools, picks etc. and only sold to Locksmiths - how things have changed! The actual lock picking skills I see on UA-cam, are often better than most Locksmiths, however having said that, Locksmithing in the real world, is a LOT different than just picking locks of course. The thrill of successfully picking a tricky lock never leaves you, it is a diminishing skill, but Oh so addictive !!
Another legendary video bud. Keep up the work man. Been a while since my last comment.
Thank you. Sometimes a simple how to video helps people who need it. It might not get the clicks, but it gets the locks open! Thanks for the comment, always appreciated.
Really well explained, even I could follow that 😉 LEGEND!
These are great picks, but people buy them thinking the pick will do the work. Like buying some brushes and paints and wondering why you haven't painted the Mona Lisa.
@@LockPickingLegend ha, good analogy. Absolutely 💯
Well that was very interesting and very clearly explained - thanks Legend. If I ever get any Lishi/style picks I shall remember that _(or probably come back and watch this again)._ Cheers.
Hello Quakes. There's a long story behind the Lishi picks. These pin-cylinder picks are relatively new, as Lishi originally made picks for vehicles (they still do, obvs) and there's over a hundred of them. They're lock specific (rather than vehicle specific) because many vehicle brands will use the same lock type. If you're interested, here's a blog on the story of the Lishi pick: www.ukbumpkeys.com/blogs/news/yale-lishi-style-lock-picks-for-eurolocks-and-rim-cylinders
@@LockPickingLegend That was an interesting read. Kudos for taking your time, testing, adjusting and then releasing your version when you were happy with the end result. And, as history has shown - it was the right decision. Cheers.
That's cool that you read it, nice one. And yes, it takes a long time to get something right, and even then there's problems. Even top computing companies, hardware and software can't promise 100% functioning as they need people to actually use them for a while to try out every possible - potential - problem. I remember buying my second iPhone and it just didn't work. it functioned but the screen would flicker occasionally and a few other annoying things. And if Apple can't get it right! Anyway, thank you for reading that, I often link people to blogs and videos and I always wonder if they bother! Good to know!@@Quaker521
No room on the the shaft to make "bouncy bouncy" or its too small to make a noticeable difference (NO!) churs LEGEND!
I think Brian Hignett got it, first comment.
Great explanation and diagram of what was going on inside the lock. I would say you got no springy bounce perhaps because the springs for those chambers were compressed thus giving no feedback or perhaps the springs and the drivers both were compressed against each other because of the length of the driver pin and the length of the spring. Have you gutted the lock to see what is inside. If the driver pin stacks are not balanced to the keypins then the driver pins may be too long for that chamber thus compressing the spring and no springy bounce for you. Just guessing, cheers
You are correct madam! The drivers are too long, and not proportional to those long ass key pins.
Hey Pocket Woman. This was my first thought, but it couldn't be, because it would cause too much problem for a key - how would the key push the pin up into the bible if there wasn't enough room, especially when the key comes at the pins at an angle, and not below like the Lishi pick. But as I said, that was my first thought. And yes, next step, open it up - video to follow! I think Brian Hignett has got the right answer (see above).
We are like a lockpicking cult once you see the videos you're in ,Oh Dear 🤣 you, LEG END 👍
Yes, I forgot to tell you, once you're in, there's no leaving. Each video is a series of encrypted hypnotic mental coding mechanisms. Hmm, maybe I should have said something earlier? Oh dear.
😅 too late now
Fascinating
Hello mate - weird eh?
Dude, thank you for explaining this. 🙏 I have been struggling with this exact issue and you explained it in a way I totally understand.
A pleasure. Brian Hignett answered the question about pins 5 and 6 too (unless that's what you're talking about?) anyway, thank you for watching and leaving a comment, much appreciated.
Her mouth says no but her eyes say yes yes yes
NO!
Interesting...
Cheers, mate.
For the algorithm!
Cheers, Basil, I still owe you a shout - I will do it.
No no no no no no no tada😂
I don't put her in, she's a deus ex machina. Edits herself into videos. It's terrifying really.
Is it binding? Is it hard? Everyday is a school day and I watched this video twice. The Latex Nun is a distraction. No!! She does make it harder to concentrate.
Hello mate. NO!
o7
Hello Son! Good times yesterday.