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Will Alien Romulus Serve A Queen or Egg Metamorphosis? SPOILERS!
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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Will Alien Romulus Serve A Queen or Egg Metamorphosis to represent the Xenomorph's life cycle? I try to answer my own question but fail miserably as I fall deeper into yet another rabbit hole becoming lost in my thoughts. Will you save me from my madness in the comments section or am I destined to simply wait until August 16th ;)
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The key factor in explaiing the life cycle of the xenomorph was best captured by Ash in Alien. "It's a survivor" or "perfect organism". This could explain that the creature has multiple ways to regenerate/replicate itself no matter what the environment. The cocoon sequence in the extended version of Alien is just another method the creature can use which is just as effective as the development of a queen. Who's to say that those are the xenomorph's only methods to ensure its survival.
I still hold to the theory that the space jockey/engineers created a biomechanical weapon that is programmed to survive/adapt to any environment or situation. A weapon so effective even they couldn't control it.
That's part of the biggest question in the franchise isn't it? Who and what was the space jockey and did it create this thing as a weapon?
This is my thought exactly. If there's a queen, there's a queen. If not, a lone Alien could egg-morph whoever was available. If there is a queen in this film (and for some reason I don't think there will be), I'm not sure what they could do with it, past another final battle. What do you do with a queen?
@@dewey70 Yeah, how do you top Aliens right?
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I think that is what drove the writers crazy for Alien 3. What can you do, after that??
The Queen is debatably more iconic than the big chap is. Hence why the Xenomorph Queen has made more appearances in the films.
The queen is a better go to i agree, but i hated the way she was portrayed in Alien 4 :(
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE because she was engineered which is a mistake lol
Team Queen all the way. She's just so incredibly badass! I wish Scott would have leaned into implementing her into the universe his prequels were building on. I liked how his films were taking things in a new and original direction but wished they brought along the awesome stuff Cameron and Winston contributed.
I can only imagine that Scott and Cameron have always been in complete odds over this aspect of the franchise. It's not like they've ever said anything nasty about each other over the years, but I sense Ridley especially never liked the direction it went. I also believe they respect each other as film makers too much to ever get into a heated debate over such trivial matters in their professional careers.
This point is spot on but I can understand why Cameron took it into a different place. He likely wanted to separate his version of Alien and can't ever be accused of rehashing or ripping off the original
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE also, while they didn't directly call each other out, it's pretty well known that most of the original British team who worked on the original thought Cameron's vision was a joke and didn't like a random American guy changing everything up
@@bozcoustics5448 Yeah I loved learning about that in the old documentary stuff. A product of its time I guess but I certainly admire Cameron's work ethic above all others. I have watch recent interviews with them speaking together one on one and it was very nice.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I'm going out on a limb here ,what about an Android getting a face hugger impregnation, could we get a new version of the Alien , not to sure if it could work .
The way I interpret the Xenomorph growth can boil down to 1 factor. Has a queen developed or hasn't it?
If not, the Xenomorph initially grows bigger like big chap, with a tougher exoskeleton, as it developes into a praetorian, then lastly into a queen. However, at any point, it may depend on eggmorphing to ensure its species survives if it happens to die - this being a response mechanism to the hostility it may encounter.
This same survival instinct then gives the queen the ability to plant a special egg, containing a Royal Facehugegr, if it sees its chances of survival are at risk.
If a queen is developed, all newly birthed Xenomorphs will grow as a warrior, being smaller, quicker, and utilising their altered exoskeleton to blend seamlessly into the hive, and potentially secrete far more resin for hive growth and reinforcement.
It's also here that any Xenomorphs that grew alongside that to the queen xeno prior to reaching queenhood, will have their growth stunted, due to the pheromones released by the activation of a Queen - locking them in their Drone or Praetorian state.
In addition, for quadruped xenomorphs (runners), the same sequence applies with runner variation.
A lone (drone) runner will grow into a crusher, then into a queen. But could eggmorph at any point if it sees its chances of survival are at risk.
And a runner birthed in the presence of a Queen grows into a Prowler (warrior equivalent).
That's a great analysis and I love the idea of all the species being connected via signal and response activation through pheromones and so forth. We think of these things as individual units sometimes but if they can affect each if so radically based on information about environment and food source, then it's more logical that what you say is correct. It ties things up nicely without the lazy writing aspect that sometimes happens
Fede has said this movie takes place between the 1st 2 films. So that means the Queen is cannon and now so are the cocoons. Cool, We can have both.
@@j.p.5818 not sure what they are cooking up but I guess anything can go right?
Sick intro :D
I like the idea of a lab-grown queen not immediately being accepted by the 'free range' xenomorphs.
Maybe they change their minds. Maybe the queen changes their minds.
It would be great if pheromones could be better explored in Romulus if they go this route but it's possible we'll only see a couple of fully grown Xenos. Finally somebody notices my new intro haha! Thanks, I made it to try to encapsulate those sensations of watching horror films in the dark as a kid with that childlike wonder...
I prefer the queen conceptually. But I don't need one in the film if they are reverse engineering a lot of stuff genetically. I think the introduction of it makes the concept of a hive and multiple aliens make a lot more sense in terms of biology and ecology. There is no point in a hive unless you have something like the queen and its eggs to protect, otherwise the drone Aliens would be out their lone wolfing and competing with each other for the resources to replicate. A much more even fight if the marines go through the complex taken them out one by one, instead of them all rallying around a toasted newborn in the hive. The sheer size of the queen also gives a great escalation to the final confrontation of an action movie. Its a great contrast of Ripley protecting newt as a mother figure, and the queen protecting her eggs. You lose a lot of that if regular aliens just make people into eggs. I think it was the right call for Aliens 100%.
I can see both existing though. As a biologist, I like the concept of a kind of "emergency" mode when the standard method is unavailable due to environmental factors. Its not unheard of for even creatures on earth to do extraordinary things to propagate their species. Such as changing their gender when the local population has too much of the same gender to reproduce. However, it is a little clunky and unexplained. I would imagine a more specialized type of alien would be the one to activate the metamorphasis to begin with. The standard alien also having that capability feels like it bloats their role somewhat and its hard to imagine they also have what is chemically needed to change any life form they have never encountered before into an carbon copy egg with an on brand facehugger inside, when the theme of the aliens reproduction after Aliens seems to have become "its mixes somewhat with the host DNA and creates something specific from the combination". But that has similar problems for people who don't like the queen to begin with.
In addition, it would seem horribly inefficient to change all that biomass into one egg. If a species had that biological ability of changing other species into something totally different, it likely would take a scatter shot approach of birthing a litter to give the best odds at least one survives. A human body could potentially be metamorpised into an incubator for several baby aliens the size of the ones we see in the movies as they gestate in the stomach. "The perfect organism" shouldn't really have a lot of pointless steps to reproduce or be inefficient in terms of propagating itself. What if there is just one host? You metamorph it, and then, the egg has nothing to open for? End of the line. It should function as something that gets the species out of that situation, not checkmates it.
Its a little too underdeveloped as a concept to be a satisfying answer to me. But if this movie could improve on that and flesh it out I would be open to that. But again, if these are all just lab grown etc they don't even need to address it.
Great read, thanks for your input. Always interesting to hear from people in the science community on these fascinating but fictional creatures. As a biologist, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how these large Xenos can sustain themselves for long periods of time as it's always baffled me how little they seem to eat and also how much fluids they lose every time they drool or secrete.
I know it's all fantasy but these creatures were inspired by living things on Earth after all. I also believe in this vast universe we live in, I think any biologist would explode with delight and confusion if we could one day observe life on unlimited planets. I truly believe and you'll maybe roll your eyes at me for saying this... But anything we can imagine, has the potential to be a reality. Thanks again for the insights. I'll be making some videos soon trying to explain the aliens features and functions based on real science on earth. I'm gonna do loads of research and try to get things right, but I expect harsh criticism none the less 😉😉
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE
Yeah it is fun to consider some kind of basis for scifi creatures to really function. Most people would say its just hollywood logic and they can do whatever the plot requires. Because its a good point, they are large creatures and very active/agile. You would imagine that is burning a huge amount of energy. Particularly when you add in the fact they don't "eat" a lot of what they hunt if they are dragging them back to eggs (or even turning them into eggs) a lot of the time from what we see in the movies.
But if you wanted to be charitable and find some way to start the explanation for it, I think looking at some of the original ideas about its biology is pretty helpful. I think Ridley Scott or Gieger had the idea for the first movie that the alien lifecycle is extremely short lived and that it is also sort of degrading in this process. The reason the chestburster is white and the adult alien is black was to visually imply a sort of bruising over time or like observing a banana become over ripe.
In that context, its a fun thought experiment to extrapolate that the aliens biology forgoes any of that boring stuff that gives species like us longevity and stability. And instead focuses on "designing" something that is more disposable. That burns out, not fades away. Perhaps slowly consuming its self from the inside with its metabolism, like the stomach of a starving mammal. A highly impactful hunter and warrior for an intense but short amount of time, protecting and expanding the hive. Running on its equivalent of adrenalin. Taking a pistol shot or two and not even realizing it or experiencing the effect of it until much later, if it lives that long. The overall ethos not being concerned with the quality of life of the being after the point it has served its purpose.
You could also imagine one of its "organs" is simply a sac of metabolic fuel, its food in a sense. And it doesn't actually need to eat anything in its environment. Its like rocket fuel, it just speeds through its growth and development and performs incredible feats of speed, power and agility with it. Fueling other organs or glands to produce substances like enough highly caustic acid to fill up its frame and also a possibly complex substance in potentially large amounts that allows it to "build" hives. But once its used up the alien must enter a semi dormant state, or perhaps just die. There is some kind of phrase to get the idea across succinctly I can't think of, like a front loaded lifecycle or an "overclocked" lifeform. Its that kind of idea. You are pushing the engines so hard they damage themselves and can't be used again to that degree.
I suppose one problem with this is that sequels and other media have significantly ignored this aspect of the alien and it appears to be canonically more durable and long lived than that now. They do keep the convenient factors, like fast growth to adulthood, probably for script pacing purposes. But the rest of it doesn't seem to be that well known or accepted. Its just a badass killing machine to most people. That decaying, transient aspect sort of hurts that branding. But I think it fits a little better with the biology of the standard alien for a more grounded take on it. And I don't believe the major film entries of the franchise have timeframes that would directly contradict a fairly short lifecycle.
And just to say I don't have any of the companion books of lore or comicbooks/dvd bonus content/webseries/whatever that may go into detail on stuff like this, so I'm sorry if they already explained it somewhere and definitively contradict everything I said. I mostly just watch and rewatch Alien and Aliens. These are just my guesses.
Big Chap only had one more host at least for 57 years
@@R0B1NG5 just been reading your thoughts again. Probably one of the best comments/replies on this video. You've given me so many ideas for future videos that I must simply thank you 🫡
I like egg morphing cos it's more alien. The queen being a creation of David that wasn't originally part of the life cycle could be interesting but while they're both good egg morphing is just creepier.
It's just as sinister as an alien gestating inside you so it does fit Alien very well.
Indeed while the Gestation of a Alien inside of you is Brutal.. seeing a Human being metamorphosis into a Alien is equally as horrifying
The one thing that has always bugged me about ovomorphing is why don’t the xenos just ovomorph the humans into an adult xeno at that point? They’re working with the same nutrient source.
@@rhobidderskag1121 Certainly when you consider what must Happen to a Host to Morph into a Egg (the Egg-Morph in Alien looked large), then yeah you could wonder why does this NOT Gestate a Adult Xenomorph instead.
The biggest Problem with the Ovomorph is it kind of makes the Queen redundant.......
When I look back at the scene in Alien i felt that having this Produce a Queen makes sense... but when we look at ALIEN 3 and AR then we indeed see the Queen is birthed via a Chest Burster and so the result of a Facehugger.
I am not sure if we will see a Egg Morph or Cocoon Morph in this or any future Movie..... maybe who knows. (By that the Morphing of a Human Host).
Ridley Scott had indicated that you can go a few more Movies with the Xenomorph but you have to Evolve it and explore other ways to Procreate.
Some people would think that he would only have intended to put Camerons Queen into Question.
@@rhobidderskag1121 hehe! The face huggers need their moment to shine as well i suppose ;)
I've always thought (since reading the book 40 years ago and then watching the directors cut of ALIEN) that an alien has the ability to create an egg in which it would hatch a queen. Chest bursters would never be a queen unless the egg made by an alien created it that way. A queen would be created once there were a few aliens to protect her. In an environment such as Hadleys Hope where there would be plenty of hosts.Then she would start laying eggs. So I think the Alien species has the ability to create eggs to then create a queen.
It's a good theory, complicated and simple at the same time. Much like the efficiency and deadliness of the creature as well as it complex chemistry to be able to do the things it does.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Thank you. I think their social cohesion is like that of ants. A queen would not survive on her own but with workers to feed and protect her she thrives and the colony grows. I think we haven't scratched the surface of what we know of the species. So their ability to create life through their dna secretions in making an egg to make a queen, may not be that unusual. It makes sense. I am so hyped to see this film! Can't wait!
Sounds like bees. Specialized cells can grow queens, standard ones only workers. If there’s a lack of a queen and need for one one can be brought into existence
@@pyenapple thanks for sharing, nature is pretty thoughtful when you think about it. Not sure what the xenomorph brings to the table in the absence of honey but it's a good comparison 😉
@@pyenapple Indeed. But it's more like a caterpillar species where through a process of chrysalis a caterpillar would cocoon itself and then morph and be reborn into a butterfly. I thought this xenomorph species was the same. Every "drone" carries the DNA to do the same by cocooning itself and then morphing into a queen where they happen to be in an environment that doesn't already have one.
This is what I thought was happening at the end of the first Alien film whereas everyone else was saying it was dying. Bit of a useless species then if it lasts only 24 hours.
Have to remember that it connects to Aliens, given Romulus takes place 20 years after the original. Ripley was drifting in space for 57 years, after all. I'm not a huge fan of the egg morphing process, given how badass the Queen is, but I get the two films divide the fanbase.
@@kyla.s5838 many folks in the comments seem to accept that the franchise could cater to both ideas. Makes sense to me that both are just evolutionary ideas and different methods it can survive but the queen is a much more natural process I guess.
I personally think that the director's cut life cycle in Alien was more horrifying than the queen. I had wondered if Prometheus was going to reconcile the two methods of reproduction as being from different strains or alterations of the alien. I also thought, as others have suggested, that the cocoon metamorphosis could simply be an emergency method of reproduction if a situation arises where there is no queen, possibly with a high health cost to the non-queen alien creating the cocoons. Sadly Prometheus was a letdown in many regards, but perhaps this movie will thread that needle.
@@crosana01 I also hope we get some fascinating bits of information and scientific reports read out or shown once we get inside the Romulus lab. Not as destroying as midichlorians from Star Wars but just something cool to learn instead of looking at test tubes hehe.
This all sounds so great! I am getting more excited each bit of information released. The down side, I may need to tune out from spoilers till I see the movie. The theory could be the queen only is spawned every so many moons so to speak, with the advantage of significantly increasing the xenomorph population. But, the species can also individually help to further increase its numbers, albeit much slower pace. Thus, a perfect creature that cannot be killed off theoretically. This may be as good of a movie as the first 2. At least hopefully!
@@michaelg.1786 I'll probably avoid doing spoiler vids from now on to be honest. I don't wanna p*** people off 😉😉
@ENTERTAINtheDUDE excellent analysis though!
@@michaelg.1786 Thanks very much pal
I'm entirely for the idea of both ideas being canon, but if there had to be a choice between one or the other then a queen makes more sense. Plus the fact that eggmorphing was never shown outside of the deleted scene from Alien
@@kjstyles2xtreme true, it was never fully canonised. It just exists as part of the mystery 👌
In the novelisation of Alien3, Ripley does posit the idea that, without a Queen, a warrior will resort to eggmorphing to keep reproduction going (not disimilar to how some species on Earth can rely on parthogenesis without a mate), until there are enough resources to sustain a Queen and full colony, So, both can happen,
@@talcy I guess even going back to single celled organisms and the start of life, the single component of this creation must have multiplied initially right? I'm well on board with both ideas existing.
The problem is the Queen was in ALIENS, ALIEN3, AND ALIEN Ressurection, and all those films are canon. While the silly egg morphing scene in ALIEN was a cut scene and is not even in the official film.
So in canon sense, the queen is part of the lore, and the egg morphing doesnt exist.
Romulus hopefully doesnt take the 'easy route' and use egg morphing to explain why eggs are on Romulus station. The queen doesnt need to be in the film, but she has to be the source of the eggs.
I understand your angle on this but I then wonder if they might avoid the issue entirely? There is no evidence at all that there are natural eggs on board as we only see incubators in the lab so maybe they limit the amount of aliens and we just have something akin to the original but more high octane haha!
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I mean i would have no problem if somehow the Roumulus scientists used the xeno's dna and somehow they could recreate eggs, or something like that. I just dont like, and never have, the egg morphing angle (if thats even what we were actually seeing in the ALIEN cut scene).
I just wonder if they create a Queen somehow. I noticed the blue mist from ALIEN in one of the trailer scenes.
I dont know its just the 'egg morphing' would be a lazy and conveniant way to expain why eggs are on Roumulus (if they actually are. they could be created like you suggested).
I'm super excited for this film, but if all we get is some gory fun, i'll accept it. The film os more of a spin off anyway than a direct part of the series, if you get me.
@@mastes1 I get it buddy and yes, also super excited as well. I started off very against Romulus but am slowly coming Ming around. I just hope I don't get disappointed. Gory fun is fine but I hope the lore, scares and maturity is there to a decent degree 👍
It takes whatever form it needs to replicate - like a macro-virus
Maybe the big chap turns into a queen. A new Alien life cycle that's just as deadly if not more than than the Xenomorph itself
I feel like the xenomorph has to keep morphing just to stay alive as its life cycle is very short. Almost like a guessing game in what it could become next :O
I like to think both is better. A lone drone can implant a variant of the black goo, which begins growing within a host like a cancer that consumes them. It isn't just converting them, it's breaking them down to build something new.
I don't know if every egg spawned in this way would produce a queen, but a drone can probably prepare any egg to produce a royal facehugger, like the one from Alien 3. It's similar to how worker bees can prepare one of their larvae to develop into a new queen.
If the converted eggs are destroyed or something, I like to think one drone will continue to mature into a queen if she isn't present and releasing pheromones to prevent that. This process just potentially kickstarts a hive before a drone can mature enough to become a queen. In some parts of the expanded universe, the eggs seem to withstand the ravages of time better than the violent organisms they produce. Maybe it makes more sense for lone drones to prioritize egg production over host retrieval to ensure the hive's survival in the long term.
You've clearly thought about this quite a bit also huh? The perfect specimen does not waste energy and can adapt to every environment and situation. I agree with what you say as it makes the creature eternally scary.
Egg morphing is just so ridiculous. It blows my mind that people defend it.
@@themidnightchoirWeyland science division are cursing your name right now 😉😉😉
It’s not that ridiculous when you consider the Xeno beast is obviously a bio-mechanical being that resulted from unnatural science
@@SergioCMMC or possibly natural but unknown to us.
Regarding Alien Isolation: "The development team confirmed that a Queen was responsible, but stated that showing her would not have fit with the game's focus on the first film in the series, and would also have led players to expect a boss-type battle with her, which went against the game's less action-oriented style."
So we know ovo-morphing is a thing, and queens are a thing and even drones morphing into queens might be a thing if we go by the alien storyline in AVP 2010.
We might not see one in the movie for the same reason it's not in the game. What kinda badass would it take to survive an infested station and put down a queen with 0 prior encounters or relevant skills. By contrast Ripley had some understanding of the creature, several kills under her belt, was florklift certified, and was running on angry mom fuel when she bested the queen.
There's a risk that a queen encounter might detract from the movie. Or maybe not. I look forward to seeing what will go down...aside from the entire station.
@@182Nym182 you may be right, a queen could distract from the minor details that could make this film fascinating. Alien Isolation would probably have been heavily criticised if I had a queen ending, even if it meant sneaking in a boss fight 😟
I was gutted when Cameron introduced a queen having lived with the original cocoon concept since 1979.
The cocoon scene wasn't in the movie but it was well known about due to the novella and making of books.
My heart sunk at the cinema in 1986 and when the queen hung off Ripley's leg without ripping it off, it was and is beyond ridiculous. 🤣
And as for the 10 stone wet through woman Ripley taking on the supposed ultimate Alien in a jumped up fork truck, 🙄 where do I begin?
Alien is for adults and Aliens is for kids.
hehe! I had a different experience as a kid because I had watched Aliens first at a very young age and then Alien I believe. I can imagine how you must have felt though. I probably had the same gut reaction when I was a little older and watched Alien 3 where I lost my favourite marine to some writer in Hollywood! ;)
Then I guess giving 10 year old me the Alan Dean Foster novelisation in 1979 wasn't a good thing to do...
Honestly… thank GOD they removed that scene. And thank GOD, James introduced the Queen. 💀
I never ever thought about it like that before. Amazing comment
It would be awesome if Fede manage to scare us and make a new classic without necessary killing all off except one.
I wanna be scared more than anything. I think the last time I actually got shook up was maybe Paranormal Activity and Blair Witch before that.
I always wanted to marines back or newt to play the Ripley role..but I think this is gonna be a great movie which we deserve and I can't wait
A perfect organism means that egg morphing could absolutely have a place in the lore in the absence of the queen (although I do hope we get to see a queen in this film….or the hint of a new queen being born)
@@lisachaffee2946 hopefully more than the deacon tease at the end of Prometheus if we do, right? What a let down that ending was 🤣🤣
I have always loved Alien, since seeing it at the cinema all those years ago. I did not, however, enjoy Alien Romulus.
@@Outlier68 sorry to hear that. Hopefully I have a better experience but I know when something bugs you in a film it is hard to shake it.
I suppose there could be certain conditions that have to be met in order for a queen to get born and develop, and if not met, "life will find a way" to replicate itself. It is the perfect organism, after all. It's also pretty clear that Scott has been much more involved than Cameron, and generally has a ton of sway on this franchise (recently to its detriment imo), and I doubt he'd be pleased to see a queen, so my money is on egg metamorphosis.
Maybe we'll see a queen in the next instalment, depending on whether Scott is still alive at the time (he's getting up there), but I'm not sure I really need to see it, as it will be borderline impossible to match the final battle of Aliens, it was too perfect!
It would almost be an insult to top the Aliens battle and anything that tried would seem like it was borrowing too much. I'd love to know how Ridley's Gladiator 2 movie will turn out. If it is good then he might have some second wind in him and finally continue the story of David but if it sucks then please leave Alien alone haha!
Hope you remember me, the big chap is alive and is in deep hibernation and wakes while it’s being experimented on hence why there is no Romulus station crew left alive. This is a big spoiler, like I said I’ll contact you with my name, email and tons of behind the scenes shots. Bio reverse engineering and information from David sent to the company teacher them how to do this. That’s why the face huggers are not in eggs but a perfectly dormant state with temperature and other tech.
@@chiefteefteefreturns3320 of course I remember you buddy 👍. If you are who you say you are 😉, then I cannot wait to see what you have. It will be amazing to see. Interesting you say it wakes when being experimented on, which almost makes me feel sad for the thing haha! But then maybe it deserves a bit of torture 🤔
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE where did you think all the Romulus station crew went. When the kids arrive on Romulus it’s deserted, that’s because they where all killed
@@chiefteefteefreturns3320 very strange that the company never went back to their huge investment though.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE there is more than one Romulus station. The other is called Remus. Romulus is quarantined so the kept it in space so nothing would escape to the planet twist after twist I promise. 11 days to go, the minute you see it let me know and you will be shocked to my involvement and the people who wear the xeno costume, I might just be one. I can’t wait so you can believe who I am and say.
Alien isolation does have a queen. You can hear her cries on the station. She had a very distinct cry when communicating with her brood. It was also confirmed by the Devs that she was there. They didn't put her in, in the end, due to losing the feel the game was aiming for. All through the game, you're hiding from the xeno. You have no way to kill it. Putting a queen in, it would kill the mood of the survival game. The team said a boss battle wasn't in line with their vision, given that you couldn't even kill a warrior cast in the game. It is there. You just don't see her, sadly. I much prefer the Queens life cycle. The cacoon stages of the life cycle are in most of the games. So this is how they normally change. They even do this to change into Queens. I feel the eggmorphing theory isn't technically cannon due to being cut from the film. But Scott is working on this, I believe, and he isn't a fan of the queen. So it wouldn't surprise me he bypasses it, Queens life cycle in itself.. is very interesting. Including the praetorian class and the "pure breed" ideals. Hence, the praetorian face hugger is seen in the extended version of 3. I find the egg morphing lazy and boring.
I believe big chap is in this, but has been petrified in the meteor picked up you see in the trailer. Its likely dead.. but preserved. I believe these are "lab grown" xeno... why they look a bit different. So they may not need a queen. 3 .. they wanted to queen to experiment... alien 4 ...
Same thing. Hence no actual eggs seen. How they managed this though im not sure given facehuggers... and full xenos are different creatures. How they get one from the other is odd... unles big chap morphed in to an egg himself while in space, essentially preserving its self in space. Bit out there but you never know.
@@Synistermissy very interesting thoughts and views points. I can see you have been thinking about this as much as I have haha! It's a fascinating franchise and more thought provoking than anything else. The science of these elements can spark debates forever but the one thing that plays on my mind is the space jockey.... So much potential here.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I'm not a fan of prometheus or covennant. I felt they cheapen the actually marvel of the alien. The alien created by a synthetic with a God complex. And the space jocks being humanesc creatures in suits? Everything the first built upon was totally thrown out the window in those films and I'm a bit stubborn and don't even consider them cannon. Refuse to believe a creature that iconic got reduced to a pet project for a synth.. it's sad seeing it that far down. The comics on the space jockeys is far more interesting. That and the "suit" in Alien wasn't a suit. Kane makes a point of it being organic and the bone being bent outwards. Scott made a mess tbh of the franchise with his own ego, I'm really really hoping he didn't have too much of a say in this film. It will just end up a mess. I have been thinking about it a long time! I've spent years learning about Xenos and they're life cycles. Fascinating creatures. I knew on the trailer drop the scene was an alien coming out of a cacoon. Something I've seen on Games... but not in film. Be impressive to witness film end though. Gruesome even !
I need a dose of Queenie and her metamorphosis. She's smart and extremely dangerous. Drones act more collectively with her presence. She is the voice of the hive mind. 👑🙌
@@tobiewolfen01 I said to another that it would be fun to see a young queen, bigger than a drone but small enough to navigate through vents still 😉
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEthe closest we got to a premature queen was the predalien from AvP Requiem. But, she was an abomination and an exception. Imagine if cinematically they have the Big Chap molt into a queen with a sufficient number of drones present near the end of the film. That would be a climatic moment. SOMETHING had a big ass tail in the trailer, and a Queen's tail is that length.
@@tobiewolfen01 I love your passion for it as Aliens was such a great build-up to that moment. I don't think Romulus ends with the station being destroyed. I think they bring something back home 😉, could be your queen 😲
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEif I heard correctly, an android is named Rook...
Rook takes (captures) Queen, Queen takes Bishop. 🤯😱
We really need to see the full lifecycle of the queen.
@@Easyfilm84 I'm down with that 👍
I want to see a drone evolve into a queen on screen. The facehugger that infected Newt's dad in the director's cut of Aliens was a normal facehugger so where did the queen come from? It makes sense if there is no established queen an isolated drone will evolve into one. If a queen is present likely pheromones force the other drones to evolve into warriors.
Hence why it is called the perfect specimen right? ;) I like it.
I can see room for both, in an environment void of a hive or queen to produce one, somehow the metamorphoses is triggered creating a Queen, perhaps through a lone xenomorph cocooning, the cocooning would have to happen at least once really to get from a chest burster to a full grown xenomorph, so why not to produce a much needed Queen
These theories allow us to acknowledge both films so I agree 👍
why cant a cocoon and queen coexist?
That's what I thought. Egg morphin could also create queen bearing facehuggers. This way a lone alien isn't completely a genetic dead end with no queen. But, the process would have an extra step instead of the lone alien simply molting into a queen.
@@mikerude5073 I'd love to review the Renaissance stations lab reports on these critters. Not sure I would understand the lingo but can you imagine the findings? 😉😉
@mikerude5073 I can definitely get that. I'm sure if romulus is successful we might get a look at the life cycle of a queen that isn't alien resurrection lol. having that will probably help fans with the notion that both cocoons and queens can exist together and help with the process of xenomorph creation.
They absolutely can. The xenomorph is the ultimate survivor as Ash once observed. It's perfectly conceivable that the creature has multiple ways of replicating itself. That would actually be essential for it's abilty to survive as a species.
Why can't we have both? I like to think a Queen speeds up the egg making process but if a lone drone alien gets to another planet or ship it can self make an egg that contains a Queen
This seems to be the overwhelming response in chat and one that I agree with. It's logical and better serves the fan base if we can appreciate both films.
im starting to think the alien we see in the trailers is becoming a queen, mainly because his design resembles the big chap and the queen combined
i personally dont like the insect hive idea that cameron brought in, and i hope the idea of egg-morphing comes around in this movie to coexist with the queen
People seem to be equal parts for or against, with many others accepting that you can include both ideas. Personally I like both but understand both to be part of a response in their ability to survive in different conditions. I'm interested to see how different the xeno will be and if they are going the queen route. A young queen is a cool concept at least.
A queen was present in Isolation, just not seen.
@@BehindThePringles heard but not seen 😉
I always liked the eggmorphing lifecycle more. It's more alien, more "non-earth-ish". It made the Alien way more crotesque and fearsome, if it morphed living beings into eggs who then brought up the facehugger who then started anew. No "Queen-Hugger" or such funsies. Totally negating that "beehive" and way to earthlike stuff the second movie brought up (good movie but it made the Alien WAY to tame, giving it that ant/bee-hive style hirarchy every human knows and is fond of).
The cut scene from the first movie was so crazy, so out of our world... and then the second movie happened... meh.
@@KleinMeme yeah fingers crossed we learn something new and see at least an adaption of elements from the first film. I find it hard to believe he's gonna throw a Queen in the mix with Ridley as a producer.
The devs for alien isolation confirmed there was a queen in the game you can hear her screech at some point but you never see or encounter her
I do remember reading that they refused to show here as it would ruin the mechanics of the game as it was designed to bring back the Claustrophobia of the first film.
Yeah i remember where you hear her screeching in the game it definitely was one on the station
@@CoryBowman-lb7wq Maybe she became too plump is escape the hallways? ;)
Why couldn't both be included? I don't see the two modes of reproduction as antagonistic but complementary, Egg morphing can be used to initiate an infestation, but it is very inefficient requiring two hosts for every single xenomorph created. With the Queen she is vulnerable, but has a the ability to increase the xenomorphs number exponentially by laying eggs. I can see both being useful to a "Perfect organism." A lone egg infests a host in a new environment, the xenomorph hatches, grows to adulthood and captures a few hosts to convert into eggs, maybe one queen egg and a couple regular eggs develop. The adult xeno guards the nest and acquires fresh hosts until the Queen hatches and matures, then she starts laying and the hive numbers skyrocket.
This would actually mirror some real species that employ two different forms of reproduction in their life cycle.
Yeah it's a good point. Most of the comments here seem to speak to your thoughts as well. It doesn't have to divide of course, why not both parts be as a whole.
Top video, you really know your stuff!
I appreciate that!
We already saw the eggs in the "infirmary" so I guess we dont really need a queen. Would also be a boring rehash.
Those are definitely incubators made by Weyland but I wonder if there are also any escaped Xenos that have produced their own eggs perhaps?
I don't see why Egg Morphing and a Queen can't both be true?? The Egg Morphing helps set up a hive and then either they create a queen egg or one molts into a queen. Closely equate it to wasps, they don't just immediately have a nest with hundreds of eggs. It have to be built first.
It's completely logical. Otherwise we go round in circles asking what came first, the chicken or the egg? Forget directors with different visions, it makes sense in terms of the overall lore.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE In chickens case, egg came first, it's an evolution from another bird/dinosaur ancestor species.
I feel you can have the queen as well as the egg morphing aspect. Different ways to survive and work towards the goal of the hive mind. It is the perfect organism after all……
Hell yeah
Thank you for the intelligent, interesting content, sir. 👍
Very nice of you to say, have a great weekend 👍
Looking at what we have been shown so far etc.....I think that its likely the Navvaro Chest Bursted Xenomorph will be killed (1hr or so into the Movie) but its possible that this might not be the last of the worries for Rain.
Regarding the Coccon well I thought we would either be shown it as part of the Life Cycle/Molt (which is confirmed) or maybe a Egg Morph kind of scene.
Now I absolutely don't think we will see a Queen and I don't think we need one.
But as far as taking the Egg Morph scene and change it to a method for maybe Cocconing a Host to become a Xenomorph... I don't think we can rule that out.
I think that the ONLY thing that we have seen thats any different from before is the Cocoon/Molt Scene.
I don't think that we have been shown everything yet and you have to wonder is Alvarez going to put out something that we have not seen before?
Be that a New Procreation Method or another Alien that is different to a extent to the Xenomorph in the trailers
It's exciting to know that we will see a mixture of previous stuff and some added variations, hopefully well suited and respectful elements.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I am going to expect that there will be something else in the Area that looks like its being turned into a Hive of sorts.
Does the Navvaro Xenomorph create this?
Or is it there from the previous OUTBREAK on the Station
P.s glad less cgi I always thought the creatures look better with real suits
@@dannyswio5175 this is a major plus 👍
I reckon if it is a baby Queen I wonder if it's the one that ends up on lv426. As we all know there's loads of eggs but no queen or queens guards to protect it an the face hugger that's attached to newts dad's face Is not a royal hugger.
I believe that the Derelict ship was on LV 426 for a very long time before Alien. Romulus is 20 years after Alien but I wonder if there might be some other connection in the film perhaps.
I bet we find out that the queen in aliens is actually a metamorphosis of the big chap. 😅
It would also merge both ideas and heal the divide right? 👍👌
what is the big chap exactly?The Alien from the first movie?
@@iv.n4thing214 Yes, I believe it was a term for the Xeno given by the director, Ridley.
Alverez has hinted a number of times that we're going to see a new creature in his movie. Romours have suggested for quite a while now that Big Chap was transforming into something soon after he's brought to the station, this is what causes W/Y to abandon it, and probably why we haven't seen him in any of the trailers.
@@iv.n4thing214 Scott’s reference to actor Bolaji Badejo who wore the original suit and was 6 foot 10” tall.
What if the xenos have to feed the queen egg/ embryo face hugger much like ants and bees feed jelly to a queen ant/bee..and the results in alien the egg almost completely consuming the character. Multiple ways of reproduction, the perfect organism.
@@kylebolt1951 maybe. We saw how she needed drones to aid her whilst she was laying eggs so maybe during her very creation the us all a need for help as well. I'm doing a vid atm on the final trailer and there is a scene that makes me think there is a queen. A tail picks up someone and the tail is about 10 meters long 🤯, it doesn't make sense.
The fact that Scott cut the scene from the original film is enough
You mean he didn't like the egg morphing idea?
I don't know if he didn't like it. He was just content to lose it from the final cut (thanks for replying - your work is awesome)
@@user-hk5cx6em6j thanks very much 👍
*TEAM DAN O' BANNON AND RONALD SHUSETT UPVOTE*
They should have teamed up with ginger to create the king of all graphics novels. Can you imagine?
I don’t see why both aren’t valid, the Xeno trying to get a queen, should a queen egg be unavailable
@@johnathanmann1120 more ppl seem to be accepting of both it would seem. I'll be on board with that 👍
Well Cameron seems to not be too pleased......
So its going to be interesting to how Aliens Fans feel about where the Xenomorphs come from in this Movie and then the Ending Money Shot......
I think that we can rule out the Queen or need of one...
@@davebear9825 I've seen some clickbait vids that say Cameron is not happy etc but never watched them. I don't know what the issue is but I would assume like always it is nothing dramatically turned into something by other folks haha! I just want Friday to arrive so I can see for myself and present some initial non spoiler thoughts for you guys first off, and then read all of your feedback. Gonna be fascinating to see what you all say 👍
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE The jist of it seems that Cameron had sat down with Alvarez giving him some input..... he then saw a rough cut of the Movie and seemed ok..
But now has distanced himself with it, seems to indicate that he had contributed to the established Lore and he thought Alvarez would pay homage to the first Two Movies.
Cameron seems like he is not pleased with how something has been portrayed in the Movie and seems to indicate that having Ridley Scott on the project may have had something to do with whatever has displeased Cameron.
What that is... i will leave for us to find out on Friday. Maybe Cameron now knows how RS felt about the Xenomorph Life Cycle after Alien.
@@davebear9825 jeez, it's like to arguing dads that used to be cool 😎. Sad thing is, I love them both for what they have given the world of entertainment but apart from some useful notes given to Alvarez (which apparently did help) I'd rather none of them be involved unless they direct themselves. Reviews for Romulus are mostly praise so far, although there are many shills in UA-cam that cannot be trusted! Oops, did I say that out loud 😉. I have seen a few negative reviews saying that the 3rd act which was amazing for some people. However, it fell flat for them. I've decided it's wrong to go in comparing to the previous films as this needs to be its own beast, so let us see.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Certainly every Alien Movie has put its own Spin/Introduced something New. Including the Prequels.
Does Alvarez stick to the Playbook... does he only play Homage to the First Two Movies and stick to the Lore that was established in which the Queen etc... seems paramount as it features mostly in the Games, Comics and Novels.
But then Alvarez is entitled to try something else.... as Ash said "Perfect Organism and Survivor"
If he has evolved something about the Xenomorph to give it a extra string to its bow so to speak.... then this makes the Xenomorph more adaptable and Perfect.
So I can't see the Problem...
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Seen few not spoiler reviews/comments from people who have seen it.
Few that seem to be a bit negative towards certain parts... these guys have openly said Aliens is their Favorite and one even only just recently watched ALIEN.
And so i think it will interesting to see how the Hardcore Aliens Fans begin to react... i think that we can expect a number of disappointed Fans
I think Egg morphing, because it's Ridley, not Cameron version
@@savvi-o1088 he did say the movie was "F***ING great" 😉, so maybe you're right
BOTH
there r at least 4 ways a xenomorph can create a purebreed dat will eventually into a queen
@@UmurikenEmperor there is certainly enough about these beings that has not been explored and is open to interpretation 👍
Would it be possible to synthesize both ideas together? Where a lone adult alien is able to use egg morphing to make eggs for queen facehuggers. This way any adult alien can start a whole hive, but it's more complex than simply becoming a queen.
Somebody else in the comments just said something very similar. Not only would it please many people, mostly! It does make some sense, I agree. The perfect specimen, right? ;)
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEHeck yeah "If just one of these things gets down here..."
I’m on team Not-black-goo, other than that I don’t give a damn.
I hate how Fox has continued to try to remind us of the canonicity of the prequels that butchered the lore. The role playing game that came out might as well have been called Prometheus The Roleplaying Game.
It has definitely upset many fans. It kind of diminishes the complexity of the xenomorph when you reduce its essence to black goo sadly.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE it’s a lot of little things. What David does with the goo in covenant takes the struggle against the Xenomorph, which is one of the most masterfully done examples of Man vs. The Unknown and retcons it into a half baked example of Man vs. Man’s Creation. The alien’s no longer a foreign entity, it’s essentially a manmade problem.
Beyond that there’s the fact that the Xenomorph is frankly far less dangerous than the black goo itself. It really steals the Xenomorphs thunder. It also takes all the little nagging thoughts that challenge our belief that the Xenomorph is _actually_ the perfect organism and brings them into focus by contrasting it with a far more powerful, but far less interesting, weapon. It’s just everything bad that could possibly happen to you concentrated into a liquid.
The goo is what you get when you take all the really specific, strange and alien details of the Xenomorph that Geiger brought to the table and strip them away in favor of just maximizing lethality. It fundamentally misunderstands a key aspect of what makes good body horror: unsettling specificity.
Body horror _isn’t_ about a foreign agent malevolently trying to destroy you as gruesomely and painfully as possible. Its instead about a foreign agent earnestly trying its best to achieve something special with your body. It’s perversely specific.
Think not of a praying mantis dismembering devouring another bug in gruesome detail, think instead of Leucochloridium paradoxum, the parasitic flatworm that invades the eyestalks of a snail and pulsates with color and shapes remesecent of a caterpillar to get a bird to eat the snail so it can continue its complex lifecycle inside the bird’s digestive tract.
I prefer the queen. Both imho can exist though as the perfect organism it must have some redundancy to save the species
Love it 👍
Would make sense that the perfect organism has mutiple reproduction methods, adaptive to different circumstances - queen, ovomorph, cocoon. Why choose? The real question is why was the xeno feeling up Rain's chesticles and is it gender fluid?
Completely agreed. I like a xenomorph species that has a lot more reproductive options. This way a lone alien can still create a hive. Also, I could see the facehuggers within morphed eggs being queen bearing too. Basically, just one alien, could lead to countless more. Edit: backup ways if reproducing makes them less predictable and more alien, as opposed to space ants who are screwed without a queen.
Oh don't go there 🤣🤣🤣. The first part makes a lot of sense and I guess we still have much to learn about this species.
i wanted to see The King Alien Xenomorph On Xenomorph Prime ❤️
Same but I wish they would release all these other side stories as Anime, can you imagine how much fun that would be. Some Anime is very intense.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE i wanted to see A King Xenomorph on Xenomorph Prime LIVE ACTION ❤️
How about a king alien?
@@user-ik8uu3tl3d I don't know much about a king and what purpose it has. Can it spawn more of its numbers or is it a super weapon/defender?
in all alien we have a new xeno for me this time is for the King alien ;)
Lot's speak of a king but I wonder what's it's purpose is? It can't lay eggs right?
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE kings can turn humans directly into xenomorphs in a similar way of normal xenomorphs to commit the eggmorphing method but would be more disturbing
Fantastic….
@@hansbambach4854 👍
Ah just as I had thought, the scene was a part of the lifecycle ;)
Well done sir ;)
The Aliens can survive the vacuum of space, in Alien Resurrection the scientists sprayed the Xenomorphs with Nitrogen gas and all it did was aggravate them.
@@AJ-yl5lt I remember that. You always knew that was a bad idea haha!
I’ve seen the intro we’re the fly into space 😅
Just watched it on the VHS marketing ad, looks very cool s I love that retro space vibe.
I hate the black goo, it was a terrible idea and means they can come up with stupid idea the want in the future, because what can't the black goo do?
I know what you mean. It was so vague that it almost has any application you can think of haha!
The black goo is simply a genetic tool. It has infinite applications implied by Scott. The xenomorph created by David was just another application of the Engineers method but not necessarily the exact method used to create the eggs/xenomorph in Alien.
The black goo is kind of a lazy plot device that is much more of a cartoon trope - not hard sci fi
Its well known definitely in the expanded universe that a single alien usually the first drone can eggmorth a queen to procreate the hive
It makes sense
I will wait till you review this movie when it comes out.
I prefer the queen laying eggs to this thing using human hosts as turning the body into the egg unless the big chap is a female xeno. What am I saying. This makes no sense
How can this black goo create life form abominations and what BS can they come up with to explain in alien Romulus if that happens or doesn't happen leaving audience guessing guessing?
For those who love both Aliens, Predators and AvP comics & games, start petition and pressure & force Disney-Fox to release and show us AvP anime series hidden in their vault.
Whether it's good or not, the fans have to see it.
Why is it such a threat to Disney-Fox?
@@MarcusWright-uc7zs I bet it has something to do with legalities and ownership lawsuits rather than a canon issue. Disney have bought up so much and has lost billions since. I bet it's all to do with money.
I think the black goo makes the Alien universe smaller and less interesting. 'Randomly created in a lab' doesn't hold the same cosmic mystery as 'evolved over millions or billions of years across across space.'
6:10 "it only serves to piss it off further. " 😂😂 thats what i thought when you first spoke of it! Cattle prod? Lol thats really gonna get that guy hurt 😂
In the original they had planned to show the food stores had been raded between growths. But was cut never filmed
8:34 you just killed all hope. You remind me. "Fox / Disney". 😢
I think that food store scene might have taken some of the mystery and magic away, possibly. Would have been nice to have seen in extras though. Sorry for the Disney reminder haha!
The ovimorph idea was abandoned due to test audience reactions. It was later canonized that the aliens had a queen. Like bees, a drone or warrior xenomorph can gorge itself and pupate into a queen in the absence of an egg layer. The scene with Bret and Dallas could simply be a larder for the xeno to gorge itself for pupating. In the book Alien, specifically the one released in 79 not the reprint which is light on content, the chest buster manages to eat the crew's food stores and the lights on C deck were out because it chewed all the silicon casings off the conduits... which is how it molted. It is my opinion this is the better of the solutions as if ovimorphs were the way to make an egg where did the derelict ship find so many humans to turn into those eggs? If they eggs were made from Engineers, they would be much larger. They had a scene in Alien where the camera pans behind the equipment on the Shuttle after Ripley has expelled the Big Chap and hunkered down for a long hypersleep... the camera focuses on an egg behind that equipment... where did it come from... test audiences did not like that. So Ripley survived and we were treated to the sequel Aliens... which is one of the best sequels made imho.
Aliens was retarded. Every part of the story,including the overall plot,is maddening. It’s just,one stupid event right after the other. Only an idiot wouldn’t be insulted.
@@xaxuelx7987 some great points there, thanks. Lots to think about here and is one of the few franchises that can truly boast that. I often wonder how things would have been if Ridley had made Aliens and Cameron has made Alien. With the same scripts, what changes would they have made and stylistic choices would alter what we know so well. Maybe in an alternate universe 😉
Big Chap comes back and morphs into Queen
I believe he comes back in pieces but you never know buddy.
😂that would be some lazy writing.
@@cordeliagriffin638 true, but looking at the trailer is anyone above the age of 25?
Boom
I kind of like the idea of big chap morphing into a queen kind of like a worker bee morphing inot a queen
I think this is a ploy to make us think there is no Big Chap.Unless Wetland sent another ship to go LV246 after the Nistramo,how else did they get the specimen.I think they reversed engineered the Big chap and that how's a xenomorphs is able to be emerge from a cacoon.The Romulus lab must of tried loads of different experiments
To be honest, part of me is more interested in the events that happened just after all hell broke loose on the station. I'd love to know if anyone escaped and what of the experiments they might have taken with them. Maybe Romulus will set up a next movie from these ideas.
Thanks! You can see the footage you describe of Bjorn being kebabed by the tail of the cocooned xeno here at the 52 second mark.
ua-cam.com/video/taVDvDShoYo/v-deo.html
It is is raining ALIEN ROMULUS footage the last 24 hours, but nothing beats the GIZMODO footage on VHS:
ua-cam.com/video/b7_gvXOORaM/v-deo.html
@@edwardrichardson8254 very nice, thanks for this. I was a bit confused about the VHS vid until I realised it was marketing right? I thought somebody was leaking a portion of Romulus in low quality 🤣Also very strange with the tail scene. It did look good but I guess they hid on purpose any damage it may have done to him
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Yes the VHS was brilliant marketing but the millennials over at GIZMODO had to start making phone calls to find a VCR as the last one ran off a Japanese assembly line exactly eight years ago this month. Is this the same DISNEY that utterly destroyed INDIANA JONES and STAR WARS and dragged Harrison Ford through feminist mud last year? The Auld Lang Syne nostalgia is running deep between this and LONGLEGS. In its own way, ALIEN ROMULUS is the third ALIEN movie we never got to see as Sigourney Weaver killed it as producer of ALIEN 3. She trashed William Gibson's superb script (ALIENS on steroids set on a space station whereby ALIENS form out of black goo left on Bishop's severed torso), banned guns, and had Bishop, Hicks, and Newt instantly terminated, and demanded the franchise end with her Christ-like sacrifice (Lord...).
The space station Gibson set the story on was inhabited by communists (Cold War still, remember!) and featured piles of xenos but in his second draft he scaled it down to just 3, which sounds very much like this movie. Battling commins and xenomorphs in space, it doesn't get more 80s. Details here:
avp.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_III_(William_Gibson)#Second_Draft
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEits been edited for the trailer, in the actual scene that was shown it pierces him through the chin
@@danielmillward9947 I definitely do not want to see anything more from this film before release now. It's given me enough to be excited I have to say, especially as I was really on the fence with this one.
@@edwardrichardson8254 Interesting, thanks again.
In what possible universe and in what possible society do these probably less than average intelligence bunch of kids (i'm only guessing at some of them doing really dumb things for plot convenience, like using a cattle prod to poke at an Alien egg), get access to all this space stuff, let alone the android, without adult supervision, overview or help. And by adult i mean an elder with decades of experience in whatever world or outerworld they inhabit. Is there going to be some back story, some credible back story, a realistic one, that allows for this Lord of the Flies-esq situation that has a series of events that lead to this horror, or is it going to be treated like the adroid is just like having the latest phone, space vehicles are just going to be like cars, and these kids were just, you know, being rebellious kids and stuff, like in our world, but set in the future, and in space , like a bunch of kids robbing bank, or being vampires or something in some cliched hollywood dross. I'm not impressed so far.
I can only hope that these kids are dupes, that they are being led like lambs to the slaughter by some other group we learn about, that all the while they're thinking they are the bees knees and so great they are all the time being manipulated and sacrificed. Because i do not see how any future world would allow a bunch of kids such freedoms to "salvage".
It funny because since i started making videos on this film, I've grown more excited about seeing it. But the one thing that still is an uncertainty is the casting choices. I hope we are surprised but i'll be interested in your feedback once released. If it changes your mind then it must be a great film indeed ;)
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE i'll probably love it but pretend i thought it as crap. :-)
I don’t know why they don’t just make Hadleys hope.
A film about the place? Do you mean exactly what happened to the colony because it would also make a great series right?
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE yes,it was a decent book. It could have been the obvious movie after alien. More of the alien ship exploration. A huge amount of unarmed victims. There was alot there to explore.
@@ralphllivrah9551 I honestly don't understand why Disney don't start releasing Anime on this stories. I personally feel that Anime can sometimes do a wonderful job at conveying great stories on a budget and really immersing us with captivating animations.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE it’s already been a book. Don’t expect Disney to do anything that’s unique. They feed the masses. Nothing but profit whores,with no love or emotional attachment to the things they buy from imaginative,caring people. They will never produce anything again. It’s cheaper and safer to buy something thats already a know quantity.
Thats a huge jumpscare spoiler. You could have left that out
Ahh sorry. I tried to announce spoilers a few times but in future I'll be more specific about what it is.
I'm struggling to find mine and your original comments now but thanks for posting the video of Cameron and Ridley chatting. It was cool to see Cameron's love for Ridley. At the start, he's either kissing arse or genuinely appreciates and respects everything Ridley did. I think the latter though