Seamlessly integrate your hardware synth into a digital setup
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2019
- Quick Tip for everyone who wants to seamlessly integrate a hardware synthesiser into their digital setup. Basically use it comfortably as a master keyboard and „almost“ as comfortable as a plug-in at the same time! If you grew up with hardware synths you probably know this, but pretty much all people getting their first hardware synth stumble over this problem.
Hardware used in the video
Behringer Deepmind 12
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Audio Interface UMC22
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These tips and tricks makes lifes easier. My biggest problem is that I'd want all them behringer synths. It's insane how much Behringer rocks.
It's insane that the most hated brand in history by musicians is now doing some awesome stuff. The worm has turned.
Wow Behringer are talking to us, Roland Yamaha Korg take note. This is how it should be done
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Yeah, this is amazing. as I scroll through their latest videos looking to see what's in the works, there's little doubt about who I will be buying from, not only because of the quality at the price point they offer, but just as importantly, what you just pointed out. I don't think I've seen this with. a company this big before.
on a similar note, the last thing I remember is, I hear you guys want thinner phones, here it is, no more headphone jack... also we've bumped the price up $200.
Behringer not only talks to us, it LISTENS to us!
Behringer on top of their game, they didn't have to do this video, they're just nice people :-) Already knew about this but great tips for newbies.
The magic word is LOCAL OFF ^^
Ich habe deine Arduino und Synthesizer Videos auf deinem Kanal schon sehr gemocht, schön dich jetzt hier wieder zu sehen.
Dude, that was an EXCELLENT and informative tip. Thank you. I have had issues recording into Logic, but did not have it hooked up correctly.
Ah didn't know what the local setting does. I got some other synths and got the same problem but finally I understand how to fix this issue. Thanks!
Nice to see götz working for behringer. I learned alot from him some years ago about diy midi conttollers. And now posting a very good solution video!! 👍
Great tip. Thanks for adding to the usefulness of my DM12!
I love that the DeepMind has Wi-Fi. I can use the editor over Wi-Fi so the USB connection is available for use with the DAW as usual.
Also, Program/Bank Change messages are your friend. In most DAWs, you can select what Bank and Program should be used on each MIDI track, so you don't have to remember which patch you used in which project. As soon as you load the project, the synth automatically switches to the correct patch. I hope more future Behringer synths will come with patch memories, it makes life so much easier in a DAW-centric setup.
Always note the patch number and name from your hardware synth in the track name and/or audio file. If you ever come back to session and want to overdub something new a few days/weeks later it'll save a lot of grief... especially if your synth can hold dozens of patches. SysEx dumps are helpful too... but that's a much longer discussion.
3 amazing tips! Thank you!!!
I was having the same problem with my Juno Ds and now I can try local off........ Great video
Local Off
Thank you whoever implemented this and thank you for this vid. 😎👍
Dude!!!! Beers on me if you ever get to SA(Texas) My treat.
I just spent yesterday smashing on synths and clicking everything off and even put back my smaller interface without effects and still couldn't find where that damn echoey weak metal reverb sound was coming from. Even reset up all of my external instruments in Ableton.
Damn man. Wow.
I had alot of those bleep moments , while trying to control my anger as I live next to an elementary school. Literally.
I'm old to messing with gear but still new I guess to integrating it to laptop. Last time I attempted making industrial electronic music I was using a tascam.
Which by my surprise, may be ideal lol with cassettes making a crazy return.
Well anyway my brother from another. Thanks man. Bad ass and hats off to you.
Just recently got a pro 1 so now on to synthesis 101. ;)
Keep up the great work and damn the pro 1 is a beast . (Just got sound )
Great info, helps to know these tips!
Great tips! It's fun watching this video that uses a deepmind while my own deepmind is in front of me on the desk lol. Thanks for the video!
This was very helpful for me. thank you
Love this! Great info
Thanks very much, i think with out destroying the forum space, i would think this could be a good way to go solving user involvement and experience, so people can watch a quick video on problem solving a lot easier. What i mean is having more How To Do, videos for your products.
Great tutorial!
GMD is alive!
Great video!! Thanks
Thank you it was pretty much helpful 😎
Thank you, very useful...thank you
Thank you very useful!
Great Video! I Have a question on how to best setup my TD-3 with Ableton. I also own a Pro-1 and this works fine but due to the TD-3 having it's internal sequencer which sounds waaaaaayy better than sequencing via ableton it's difficult to get both running smoothly. I was thinking about running the pattern midi out of the TD-3 into ableton - building the track and then running the midi back out of ableton into the TD-3. Seems a bit clunky is there an easier way? Maybe via midi cc for pattern changes?
Actually this is a really useful video. Thumbs up
great!!!! go on behringer!
On a slightly different note, if you're using the Deepmind 12 as a controller keyboard for a desktop synth like my Blofeld be sure to turn Poly Chain off in the Global settings.
Thanks for the great video and tips! But I still got one question: Is there any chance to change the arp rate on the Poly D to 1/4, etc instead of 1/16, while using the USB-midi clock?
Behringer is for the people....Thank You
02:00 This is a great tip and reminder.
Please create an official plug-in editor where I can put it on a MIDI track in a DAW project, work on the sound on the hardware synth the save it as a preset in the plug-in editor, then recall it if needed in the future to the hardware. Make one plug-in editor for multiple of your current hardware synths. This would make the workflow even more safe to return to older projects and make sure you do not lose important saved presets when working with Behringer hardware synths.
Great idea. The Novation Ultranova has that. Every hardware synth should have that bundled with the synth from my viewpoint, as you can also use it as a preset librarian, alter the global settings, and use it to change the synth knobs and controls within your tune on the computer.
Sysex dump utility? Does DeepMind accept a sysex to set the patch?
I hear you, though. It would be great if the Yamaha Reface (for example) had made an audio unit as a librarian / editor instead of the SoundMondo app.
As a workaround, you can use midiox to accept a sysex export from the Deepmind 12. In Reaper anyways, you can then send sysex to the Deepmind 12 at the beginning of a track, so that you send the preset to the synth before it begins playing the midi in Reaper.
@@warrentriantafelo5326 Cheers, that is possible and it does work ok. Behringer, Korg etc already make computer librarians/editors for their hardware synths, all they have to do is convert the librarian/editor to a VST. It would encourage people using software synths to buy hardware, particularly if they know nothing about MIDI and sysex etc....
@@niknayme3754 I agree. In my opinion the purpose of buying hardware in 2019 is to make the music experience more "fun," "hands on," whatever you want to call it. Sure we can get great sounds out of software, but I'm tired of only staring at a computer screen. I'd value anything that makes the experience of using a hardware synth more effortless :-) As far as sysex goes, I'm just sayin'... If someone is desperate to do this without vst integration, it can be done ;-)
thanks for the info, i hate synths after buying one and spending days just feeling stupid lol trying to do midi connection combinations.. yea its really frustrating stuff
Nice video, and nice trick; thanks. Can you show how to connect multiple hardware synths with DAW?
how to do this with a synth that has no local off option, like the Odyssey?
Danke, good video. I wonder how I get the Behringer DeepMind sequencer to sync with my DAW. I want my DAW to be a master. I have Propellerhead Reason.
Thanks Dudes 💻🎼🎵🎶👍
Very informative! Quick question, how to design the instrument’ s sound on GarageBand by hardware ( in my case using my prophet as a midi to play other instruments on GarageBand but I can’t design the sound of instrument by the prophet)
Kind regards from Sweden.
I have integrated a Deepmind 12 into my setup. I have problems with midi clock jitter. Setup is Reaper on an MSI laptop -> RME Babyface Deepmind 12. Regardless of whether I use midi over USB, midi via RME Babyface, or sync the clock in my DAW to the clock in the Deepmind 12, the clock jitter is bad enough that an arp on the Deepmind will be far enough out of time with Reaper to be unusable after 10-15 seconds. I can't believe there is any problem with the Deepmind 12 clock, nor with the RME interface or drivers. I'm confident the clock instability is in Reaper, the processing power of my computer, and speed of the USB buss in the laptop. Workaround is to draw the arp into individual midi notes in Reaper, as the latency isn't much of a problem and if consistent, can be adjusted for. I would however very happily buy a Behringer product that would function like an Expert Sleepers Usamo or E-RM Midiclock, to eliminate the clock jitter.
@Scott Behringer, can you please tell me what are the proper midi settings for a PolyD, I’ve been trying all types of settings but I’m getting a loop with the notes, the PolyD behavior is random and unpredictable. Sent video snippets to tech support but no answers. Thanks.
How do you do this for the Behringer TD-3 (turn local off)?
I'm using Live 10, have the "Clock Source" set to "MIDI USB" in the Synth Tool so that the patterns sync with Live's tempo, then using the "External Instrument" in Live with "MIDI To" set to the TD-3 and "Audio From" set to my sound card input I connected the TD-3 to
are recording onto a "Instrument track" or stereo "Audio" track? also is the audio going in from DM12 through USB and not going in through the interface?
Super Useful video.....one of the problems i have is understanding on the deepmind 6 how to have for example one midi channel on the synth assigned to bass and another assigned to a lead and another assigned to pad .... i used to be able to do this in other synths and then use them on the sequencer - or....can you only have the deepmind on one midi channel and hence the number of instruments coming from deepmind is not limited by polyphony but the fact taht it can only play one instrument in midi
I have just bought a Deepmind6 and I am brand new to using a synth, I come from an acoustic background but I am keen to move into electronic. Any recommendations for tutorials for a beginner? Thank you! : )
How to connect a hardware synth to the Audio Interface? Do I use both 1/4" outputs at the rear of the synth which connects to the AI via 1 jack? Thanks for any help.
The main problem I have is when sending midi from my DAW to play my external synth the audio from the external synth comes back significantly delayed and is out of time with the rest of my VST synths and drums. Ableton's delay compensation never seems to work properly.
make video with ableton beringer
latency isues
A much more useful video would be about leveraging MIDI CC to control the parameters in the hardware synth. This video isn’t clear that it’s just about how to setup your synth and daw’s MIDI config to avoid double triggering your hardware synth.
Where do I find this menu in the Behringer MS-101?
Quick question, that may be obvious. Im gonna be getting my first hardware synth. What im wondering is how do you quantize your playing, if you're recording the audio into your interface? I want to record the sounds of the hardware synth, but I still want to be able to quantize it, since im not the greatest player. I'm using Ableton Live 10. Any tips? idk if there is a way to record a midi version of your playing WITH the sounds of the hardware.
While you are able to quantize audio in Ableton Live this might not work with all types of sound and may also introduce audible artifacts.
Best method: Record only the MIDI notes to a MIDI track. If you play this back Ableton Live will play the notes on your synth. Now you have the freedom to edit and quantize the MIDI notes. Once you are happy with the result, record the audio to a separate track and mute or delete the MIDI track.
hi!
how can I connect my behanger poly d (via sync in) to a midi sync connector?
it doesn't seam to accept the information I send via logic...
where can I find instructions on this?
thanks a lot!
nico
What about the midi cables? What happen if you connect the keyboard to the audio interface? Tks
Thanks for your explanation. Could you maybe explain me how I can fix the following problem. When I record my synth in ableton with a midi and audio track I dont hear anything in my midi channel when listening after recording. However it does show me midi notes but there is no sound. Do you have any idea what this could be? I checked all settings catefully.
Some great tips here thankyou! Im really stuck.... I'm on PC using Cubase and have my deepmind 6 hooked up via usb. I want to use the deepmind app at the same time but it just wont connect if my DAW is open?
I'm trying to midi sync my hardware (behringer crave, roland tr8s, novation circuit) to the DAW using a behringer umc 1820, what's the best way to connect these things together ? is the midi out on the behringer interface the midi out from the DAW or is it the midi out from the midi in?
Hi, please can you advise the best way to set up the Behringer MS1 & TD-3 using USB connections to a Windows PC. Both synths go in to my XENYX 1622 mixer. Im sending the control out on the mixer to inputs 3/4 on my Kontrol 6 interface. I tried using Ableton's external instrument for each device however, each track picks up the audio from both synths and not individually. I cant figure it out for shit, I'm relatively new to an all hardware set up and I havent yet tried the Local Off parameter on both synths as I dont know where to find this setting. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Apologies if its a stupid question.
To go directly to an amp is it best to use the headphone output with a stereo to mono cable?
I tried connecting the 12d to an M-Audio Oxygen 25 controller using a usb with D-shape on both ends but nothing lights up. No power. Nothing?
NOW, THAT IS SOOOOOO DAMN USEFUL!!! ...I think that we can leave local set to off and just use a straight patch lead when not connected to the daw ...so as to save fucking about changing settings all the time... - (maybe)
Hi, I have a similar issue where I hear the synth from my headphones out of my interface and it sounds phasey like it has effects on it. But when I hear it out of the headphone out of the synth it sounds clean and like it should sound. I have the e desktop module version of the Deepmind so not sure how that effects what I am doing? Because the menus are different. If you can help that would be great. Thanks
behringer: Problem i'm having with the td3 and the synth tool is i can't figure out how to get the clock in ableton to match the one in the synth and theres no documentation on the synth tool to tell me how to do this
Hi, I have problem with Arpegiator sync. I want sync Deepmind with Midiclock+ but I can't find in Deepmind external sync option. Thx
Hi I am not new to MIDI but I can’t get my DeepMind 12d to do what I want. How should I setup the arp so it waits for the start from my DAW (Studio one) like a drum machine would do. Thanks for your help.
Now all makes sense
Is it possible to send midi from your daw into the deep mind and then using the midi thru port to send the midi out to other synths in a daisy chain?
Is it possible to use my Deepmind 12 simply as a midi keyboard? I have a Nord Stage 3 and in some songs I'd like to use the Nord's sounds in an external keyboard. Can I use my Deepmind keyboard that way?
Where is that local mode on Korg Minilogue ?
Great video, but there's one hardware synth into play .... I have about 10, reaching 22 outputs that need to go into my DAW.. Does Behringer have a solution to cable this up? Thanks in advance for your feedback!
When will behringer make Atari Falcon compatible computer? Full midi
would have been helpful to describe the actual cable connections. thanks
I wish you could have solved this from the beginning with all your new hardware. (A VST plugin for the DAW that receive the signal).
And even better, a VST plugin that can steer and control the whole synth and with 100% recall.
But you can't have your synth sounds with just midi ?
You have per exemple an output for the synth's sound ?
Am I right ?
I have a Behringer WING and when I do as you've instructed I still get no audio input into my Reason 12 DAW. any help would be great thanks.
Other way to do it is not connecting the synth to the audio interface. And connecting the computer out to your studio speakers. This way you only use the midi info on the track.
Is it possible to select a sound on DM6/12 by midi channel?? So i can jump easy to another sound by midi foot pedal.
I have a U-Control. How do I connect it to the Behringer Model D Synth? Thanks!
Hi! please do a tutorial on how to sync the deepmind12 to the tempo of my DAW
Did you ever find an answer to this?
@@RobCowie I did! I use logic so I had to dig deep into logic settings. But it’s a bit difficult and even sometimes it doesn’t work...
@@anaregatero9297 how did you get it to work? i'm trying to do the same with my Poly D!
Excellent video, strange that my Deepmind ships with power cable but no USB cable.
hey, thanks for the video btw. Actually I have a major problem with my setup, which is I can only hear the external synth's sound but not the software instrument. and some how it's not even triggering the tracks. I'm pretty sure there is a problem with the setups but I need a specific solution to it. (first time using external synthesizer, only been using midi keyboards.) Thank you for reading. Have a great day. (sorry for the bad english)
Can you not make vsts to for your synths to help with integration and automation? Like the Moog Subs have.
yes PLEASE THIS IS ALL I WANT
Can you do one of these vids for someone using just a desktop hardware synth like behringer k-2 which does not have a keyboard. Please. P.s. I’m using reaper as my DAW and vst software in reaper which I’m using with my notation keyboard which has no midi out so cannot be connected to my k-2 directly. I have. Set up two tracks one for vst and one for midi but the midi signal doesn’t get to the k-2 through the midi usb. Please help.
Das war jetzt die letzte offene Frage, ob ich den Deep Mind12 auch in Logic eingebunden bekomme, bevor ich ihn bestelle. So wies aussieht, dürfte das ja gut funktionieren. Endlich mal wieder ein Hardware Synthie. Mein letzter war ein Access Virus A, ist aber schon viele Jahre her.
My only problem is setting up the gains fir hardware synths/drum machines. I use a Behringer MX2446 mixer, a Korg EA1, a Roland SP808ex,an Akai XR10, and a Roland SH32. On thd main insert a DBX MC6 and on the send a ART effects network and a Realistic electronic reverb. Maaan, I know that mixer is old and quite beaten up but without a proper cleaning (which I'll do tomorrow!) it is simply impossible to record anything. So I tried recording only loops and mixing them in the box, inly to realize I have no idea how to do that "the right way." I tried recording with a 5dB headroom but the SH32 output is always too low and when I turn the gain up - it sounds too loud. The others sound relatively similar in turn of loudness, but I am afraid to record at -18dB as people suggest, because of the noise issues. Unfortunately, I only have an hour or so a day to fickle with this, because of my other obligations.
I wish someone would make a tutorial about this, not just guitars/mics/plug-ins. My computer is old and I want to use my hardware units...
What is Behringer’s recommendation to set up multiple synths, and be ready and prepared for the ever growing Behringer hardware synth and drum machine armada? Ultimately I would like to switch all my synths on and just select them from my DAW without the need to unplug or plugin anything. I am sure Behringer has the gear to do the trick.
they released a midi setup for this question. not sure if you've seen it, but if others see your comment they should check out the video... midi setup.
Marco Santa Cruz thanks Marco, will have a look!
how to do this with Behringer MS 101? If i wanna just using it as a midi keyboard with my DAW.
Can the slider can be used as controler for the other vst instrument in DAW
Hi This really informative, but i have few questions abt How we can connect this with my midi controller ? once this gets connected the output recording will be in a Audio track in my DAW right not in the midi instrument track ? and Last if I choose any VST instrument like serum or Native instruments library - this this device can i operate the knob that is in the native instruments library ? please
Hey Pratik, maybe re-watch the video again. Should be all in there. Let's say you have a computer, a hardware synth like the Pro-1 and a USB-MIDI-Controller:
- connect both the Pro-1 and the controller to your computer via USB
- in your music software create a new MIDI track with your controller as input and the Pro-1 as output
- switch this track to record-ready - now you can play the Pro-1 with the controller; your music software will pass through the MIDI data from the controller to the Pro-1
- you can also record MIDI or controller data, quantize, transpose or edit that data
- if you play-back your song, your music software will play your Pro-1 with that MIDI notes in real-time the same way it plays a software synth in real-time
- once you are happy with the sound you need to record it as audio to free up your Pro-1 for the next sound
Remember that MIDI is only the information which note to play but not the sound itself! So you will need to connect the audio out of the Pro-1 to a mixer or your audio interface to hear it. And you will need to record it to an audio track in your music software.
If you have more questions, maybe write a post on community.musictribe.com/
Hi, I'm having trouble creating audio clips from midi with the Deepmind 12D in Ableton. I can record audio clips directly no problem. The only synth in my setup that does this. Help please!
Make sure your synthenzier is on the same midi channel 🤔
Hello i would like to sync my RD 8 to play with my loops into ableton live .. like if i do play on ableton , it run the RD 8 too.. how can i do please ?? ))
Can you make a realtime connection between all Behringer's gear and our daw's? My bankaccount would appreciate it. :)
Using Ableton. Did the same, but can't hear the sound from synthesiser. Any ideas?
I am having a real hard time using my umc22 with windows10/ableton10 and synths. No sound out of the umc22s headphone output at all with any driver, either with behringer audio codec or asio4all :(
Is there a way to totally integrate a Access virus C or JP 8000 keyboard synthsizer to a pc... As it has no USB port...
What about the Behringer Poly D?
I’m having the same issue with a Korg Kronos how do I separate them?
I'm getting no velocity control over midi with DM12 (via usb). Help!!!
How do I sync the arp clock on deepmind with Ableton tempo
is it possible to connect it without audio interface?
I can't connect the DeepMind Desktop to a midi keyboard because they both have same USB type B sockets- I tried a USB D shape to D shape male to male cable but get nothing?!?