Junkyard Engine Leak Warranty? Chrysler Dodge 3.6
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My husband passed away last month by cancer then now I’m into your video. My husband also is watching with me 😊
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If the reseal was recommended and declined by the customer, then the customer pays for the repair.
Only if RRR purchased the engine on his soo called expertise.
@etcomande9299. I'm sure Ray has plenty of expertise however it must be said junkyard engines may or may not have problems from at the very least sitting idle. I would speculate unless he did a full teardown, expertise can only carry this so far.
Besides if the customer declined having gaskets replaced initially then it's on them imo
@@elcomandante9299used engines come with zero warranty on parts unless the salvage company does. This is common practice since the beginning of time. It's like buying a used car as is no warranty
The customer declined re-sealing the used engine, therefore, the repairs you just performed are one hundred percent their responsibility and they should pay for them.
It's hindsight now but customer should of had all the gaskets replaced while the engine was out. They are one of the first to rot when an engine is sitting for any length of time like this one likely was.
Charging the customer for what they refused prior, needs no justification. Good job Ray.
^ He said exactly what I was going to say. You are working with her but really, should you? She refused service and now has a leaks. That is her own fault.
@@megawega6370 Yes he should, if he can afford to do so. It *is* the customer's fault, 100%, but it's the kind thing to do, and it's how you make lifetime customers.
You offered to replace the seals prior to installation when accessing was easy. Replacing after the fact is on the customers decision.
I have to agree. This repair should be on the customer, if this was offered, and refused at the time of installing the “used” engine.
Ray made the right call on this. 👍🏼
No better time to replace the gaskets than while it's not in the car yet.
@@donwyoming1936I do this when I work on my 30 year old cars. It amazes me when people cheap out on fairly new vehicle.
They should have gone for a front and rear engine seal. If they leak it means an R&R to repair that
@@donwyoming1936, Actually a better time is upon a comeback, why? you make a bit of money doing a tube video as well as charging top dollar to reseal.😮😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
Learning from experience: Next engine change job tell the customer a gasket change is a mandatory part of the job.
“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
― Benjamin Franklin
I totally agree!
💯 agree………
I agree while the engine is out it's simple to do the things that would cause a major problem at some point. however, an informed customer who makes a poor choice needs to "pay the freight" so to speak.
'Four score an several years ago our fathers couldn't score.'
- Donald Trump
Quasimodo also said that.🤔
My comment is perhaps biased. If I have a car serviced and I am happy with the work completed,I do not send it to another agent to have a cheap oil change AND THEN HAVE THE GAUL TO CLAIM WARRANTY! You are a great person and the fact you accepted to have a look at it proves your exception from the rule. I personally would have been offended after doing the right thing, providing an engine and at both your own personal costs and the customer clearly is taking advantage of your good nature. If he wants to take it somewhere else, then it’s their problem, not yours. I’ve vented my spleen and I feel better now!
I don’t think the fact that the customer had the oil changed at Walmart caused the gasket to leak. With customers life situation, I can understand trying to save money on oil changes. Give them credit for having the oil changed, to maintain the engine. Not everyone can afford the best.
What you said! Ditto! Also I hope Walmart put the right type and amount of oil!
Yes! You put premium oil in it to have junk oil replace it. Not a smart move! Youre 100% justified ray!!!
Family folks might have a few other things to pay for and in my mind, better an oil change than no change.
This is the one that threw a rod. Not the one that overheated with the lady herbhusband and 5 kids. Thays a different vehicle.
All my hours of watching your channel paid off this week. Niece had a crash and the radiator didn't survive. Watched more than a few videos where you removed the cooling pack and broke it down. It was almost like I'd done the job a few times before. Everything is back together and seems to be working as intended. Thanks for putting out all the content for us!
Why warranty?You offered that service prior to installation and she declined, therefore its on her, not you.
Indeed!!
The customer refused to have the seals done so you are justified charging the customer. No you don't have to give full warranty on a used engine. Great job as always Ray. 👍👍
From the looks of the underside of the engine they should be happy. Used engine in a Chrysler that is dry? Count it a blessing!
That's a 3.6 litre Penta Star engine. I believe that is the best engine in an American vehicle built today. We own 2 of these engines and both are great.
Ray your shop is amazing from when you 1st moved in. 😎
If you make a recommendation,and they refuse,no warranty! I have people that ,I tell to register their A/C units so they can get the 10 year ,and they fail to do that and still want the ten year warranty ,but they only got the 5 year,because they are lazy! Its not my problem at that point,I gave them the tools and did my part 100%.
Water heaters are the same. If you don’t register the warranty starts from date of manufacture.
That's interesting. I've never had to register my HVAC for the 10yr warranty from Goodman.
Its a real thing,most assume its automatic
@@donwyoming1936Goodman? Good luck. You're going to need it.
You forgot to tighten the two last bolts you mention just before putting the coolant hose on. You can see them when you put the engine cover back on.
I saw that too, glad you mentioned it
And the intake temperature sensor didn’t get plugged back in 🤦🏾🤷🏿
Before I retired, back in 2009, I replaced many used engines for customers, and I also recommended a reseal before install. You'd be surprized how many refused, all of them! lol
I got so little sleep last night that I caught ray early for the first time in a while
My eyes still go 'Ooooo' at the new floor. Luckily it's not a lipstick on a pig situation ! We're just as proud of your accomplishment/progress as you (and family & employee units) are. PLUS we get to learn and laugh as we watch. Thanks 🙂
Hey rainman. Been watching for awhile. Moved to Florida and realized I am in walking distance from Ray the Great and team with his Awesome lady! Glad to know I'm in good company. Great work!! :)
It is crazy what a difference the color of the floor makes. Now the shop seems much more brighter and friendlier
Hi Ray, just politely reminding you you forgot to tighten the two bolts behind the dipstick that you wanted to remind yourself not to forget at the end of the video just a quick reminder
Funny how you mention Shapes and Colors ,so simple to apply. This world is missing a little RWA (Reading,Writing,Arithmetic) especially where I work. Have a good day to you and your family.
Part of the reason I pay a professional mechanic (or technician in the new car dealer vernacular) is for the use of all their endless collection of wobbly bits and their knowledge on how to use them correctly.
When I rented a GMC Terrain, it had a Stop/Start feature on it. I disabled it by pulling the electronic button shifter to L, and set it all the way from 1-10 or 1-19. I can’t remember clearly, as that was the only time I used a GMC Terrain..
Anyway, I don’t know what dummy of an engineer thought up that idea to turn off your vehicle when you make a stop at the intersection. What you save on gas, will be enough to buy you a starter, when it decides to quit, and not engage the flywheel, stranding you. Not only is it not economical, It’s also annoying af, feeling a 1 second delay at the gas pedal, when your trying to take off. What an idea!!!!
The whole object of that "feature" is to pad up the numbers in a very small way during certification. In the real world there is a small gain in mpg at the cost of more irritation. And who needs more?
I agree 100% with you not warrantying it if you advised doing a reseal while the engine was out and everything was super easily accessible - Had they heeded your advise, the additional cost would have been some seals and a lot less time than it now takes to replace them.
When it comes to installing used and unrestored engines and/or trans, I've found it's best to include the cost of resealing the typical leak points in the price estimate and doing it before installation. It's not an option, it's a requirement. You're doing the customer and you a favor, saving all the finger pointing afterwards. The exception might be if the customer supplies the engine or trans, then it's all on them.
Great policy !!!
Morning morning! Welcome back from your vacation. My wife was wondering how you hired Dave. Random hire or someone you knew before?
So your wife is eyeing Dave?!😂😂
Just kidding.
While the engine is out, you always should change all seals that you can't get to with the engine in. Common sense, don't hollar later. You are doing the right thing. If you want to give a little break, that is up to you. Good work
Tip for the clogged tips of silicone (or tubes of caulk...) leave a nail, head-first, inside it. Makes it easy to pull the cured plug out for the next use.
I've seen plenty put a nail point-first in a nozzle but a late 60s painter showed me that one. "If you can jump it, I can caulk it."
They make rubber caps with a built in plastic "nail" to go over the nozzle too. Works better than my classic deck screw & Saran wrap method.
@@donwyoming1936 nice. As in a separate product or moulded into the "cap" that comes with the "forbidden toothpaste" tubes?
If the former, where did you find them? Little things like that add to the "manure collected into a neat pile" and "I've done this 100 times" look that sets the client at ease.
For a used engine, that one is surprisingly clean inside. The customer should get many miles from it. Unfortunately some small oil leaks from the common leak areas, but good to see you taking care of them for the customer. Thanks for a great video!
Did I see the two bolts that hold the coolant lines not tightened down??? Or was that an optical illusion? Great repair. If the customer declined the reseal while out, then I think you did the right thing in working with the customer on the repair.
And this is exactly why when I put a used engine in my truck I did a refresh to it prior to installation. Was a tested good runner with great compression when pulled so I borescoped the plug holes. Seeing nice clean bores with nice cross hatching I didn't bother with the top end. I replaced all gaskets/seals except the head gaskets, new oil pump, all bottom end bearings and timing set. Honestly doing all gaskets/seals and at least doing an inspection of the bottom end bearings while an engine is already out is cheap insurance.
I agree. The customer had their one chance to get a reseal before the engine was installed, and they decided otherwise, so it truly is on them. No doubt about it if it's been documented.. CYA.
Cheers from Montreal Canada🙂
Used, junkyard engine 🤔
Engine oil leak? Who would have thunk that 😮
What’s shocking is this is a 2017 and the engine was already replaced 😱.
@@jackschissler255
Scary 👍
Chrysler product… enough said.
It shouldn't really matter to what other viewers think or what they might say it's really and truly up to the mechanic and the owner of that said vehicle
Why mess with the other cover if no leak is present. I agree . The cost is not worth it when not needed . Your right .
Good used engines are very rare nowadays...!!!
Always turn off the start/stop!
Rented a car with it stopped at a light thought the motor died😂
You did the right thing you did your recommendation and they declined.
Who identified the oil leak? It wasn't noticeable and I doubt the Walmart tech would have pointed it out. Good on you for always leaning towards 'making it right'...but it's a dangerous road. Hooking up a customer in need could lead to constant comebacks every time they suspect a leak, hear an odd noise, etc etc... as they repeatedly look to get more out of you and abuse the kindness.
The 'Call Back King'...yep...then your smile get funky when come to work in morning and see that name again ...and to sweetn the pot...can not duplicate the problem...thank God video recording is available more now...
From experience, Walmart tells every customer their oil was low with a possibility of a leak. Saves their ass !
Excellent editing and great sound 👍
I really have an Appreciation for Younger Mechanics that Work on these Newer- Over Engineered Engines, back in the 60's --90's engines were so much less Technical...
Hopefully the customer learned a valuable lesson. Don't refuse a reseal on a used engine.
G"day From Australia Ray . I Feel given a part warranty is completely fair it is more than most workshops would have dun . When your talking about a 2nd hand Engine & oil leeks , even more so because you suggested swapping out all the seals that need to remove the Engine plus the valve cover seals . Always enjoy you’r videos Have a good weekend
Your videos just keep getting better and better
Hi:
My caravan had to have the engine replaced replaced due to a cylinder 2 misfire while under the used car warranty. I had already had the spark plugs, coils, injectors . The warranty tried to replace the upper intake first with an oem one, no luck. They then had them replace the engine with a used one. I had them move all the parts that were on the old engine, and then replace the valve cover gaskets, all belts and hoses, gaskets for the oil cooler, thermostat, water pump, belt tensioner and a engine reseal. I wanted some piece of mind, and I try to live by the pay me now or pay me a whole lot more later. They even gave me a call so I could I be there when they opened up the engine. It was clean for mileage. I did have the BG “snake oil service “ done , and the oil changed at 1000, 3000.
Replacing engine for a misfire on cylinder two? That outrageous n costly.
That was the choice that the car dealer’s warranty company made.
You offered to do all the gaskets and seals when the engine came in but they declined because of financials , which in some cases are understandable from their situation . Yet like when I was worked in the electrical trade and they only wanted one light switch at the front door and not a 3 way switch for entering from another room , while the home was being built . They would try to get a 3 way switch set up after the fact . Then you just have to bill them accordingly . I kept records of every conversation I had with clients for that reason . I was taught by some good people .
Ray the 2 bolts you said about tightening for the bracket at 53.34 . Hope you got them.
Morning Ray i think you did the right thing and a lot more then most shops.
Ray you did the right move especially after suggesting that the engine should be resealed before install and the customer rejected. A comment below suggested that a reseal on a used engine replacement should be mandatory, something to consider. My Uncle Paul had an auto repair shop in LA. Calf and for example when a brake job was needed he would not do the work unless it was a complete 4 wheel job. He said it kept the returns to a minimum and his shop was successful for high quality work. You have a very successful shop, wish it was closer.
Dont no anyone who would do a one axle brake job.
@@elcomandante9299 have seen that done by some, depends on the condition at each axel
@@NattyBumppo-p9zAgreed !
If customer do not want re-seal used motor when doing engine swap, you may have to make them sign paper where it states they refuced it and so everything what happens afterwards is on their own cost, aka no warranty.
I agree with your decision she refused check before install so its on her. great work Ray
Wow that extension is great no more lost ten millimeter socket
Negotiating with customer is a part of the job, and they worked out the front alone is good for now, because they did not want to pay when the labour was very low with no vehicle in the way.
I totally agree that it's so much easier to replace seals when the engine is sitting on the stand. I always try to insist on replacing before installation. But the customer is ignorant not necessarily stupid it can be a loosing argument because they see dollars not down the road. You are being a good guy on this situation.👍👍
Just a tip here on the tube of silicone .Remove the tip and apply a dab of grease at the end of the tube to keep the silicone from drying out.
Not sure if it was a Trolling thing, but you missed the 2 last bracket bolts under engine cover.
I don't really keep up on car stuff lately, I do watch this channel which I do enjoy... I think it's his personality and way of thinking that I enjoy.... And I am kind of a car guy. With that being said, I made sure I stayed away from the pentastar when we bought our Jeep because of this channel. 2 l turbo baby!
Unfortunately… Jeep is still on the same level with the Chryslers…🤷🏻♂️
I think it's totally fair. She had the option to have the service at the time of purchase n chose not to get it. It absolutely makes sense it should be a separate bill.
You did it right if my opinion matters Ray. Offering these gaskets up front and they declined them, now they have to pay, it's only fair. Maybe a discount at our shop, but certainly have to charge for the time.
Good to hear they are acknowledging that they were offered but refused a preventative option prior to installing the engine. This proves saving money up front ends up costing more in the end.
Love your videos. Btw you forgot to tighten the solenoid bolt up and the 2 bolts by the coolant hose up.
Love the wife’s minivan with the 3.8 l. Gas mileage not great but 145,000 and still runs like new.
Battery…good choice to check. Lived in Clearwater for 20 years and during that time I replaced the battery on my 1997 Camaro Z28 4 times due to the heat. It seems a 5 year battery only lasts 2-3 years in Florida [ex.only].
Yep, Heat Is A Killer On Batteries 😢
Hey Ray! Good video. Your camera work is the best and your commentary is fun.
That cover was dirty. Definitely could have used a brake clean spritz.
The lighting over all is well also... Sometimes Eric O looked and sounded like he was working in a Cave 🦦
Nice job ray! Justified no warranty they chose not to go the extra mile so no warranty is necessary unless you feel its needed. You repaired it at a discount and your time is money so thats that!
Hi from the UK ❤❤ love your videos have a fab weekend
Think you (and Eric) have been more than fair trying to help these folks out of a bad spot. The decision not to do this work while engine was out leaves them vulnerable for the consequence with a used engine. My guess, they didn't think you were obligated to "warranty" that work.
Has he ever done an update on the mopar 3.6 timing job ? The one he asked for insight on .
Ray, what's the story with the 1965 Thunderbird? I'd love to hear more about that one!
Coffee and ray in the morning but lately just Coffee 😢
You did offer to reseal before hand.... so I would think it would be on them
Your position on no warranty is on point. Working with the customer shoes your integrity.
well some guys do a reseal before they put a used motor in, guess it just depends on a lot of different things, good video!👍🏿😂
I know I always did. Saved me a lot of (Ray). That’s what we call it now if we love our jobs so much that we do it twice.😂
In my experience, putting on new oil pan & valve cover gaskets is standard practice. Part of the quoted price for the engine swap.
Start stop battery , engineers belong in the funny farm
If you follow daves auto center on you tube.He'll install used engines.He doesn't like too probably for reasons like fixing things later.He'll run a borescope into the cylinders.He'll hook up the engine to a machine and turn it over not actually fire it to check oil pressure etc, before he installs it. He definetly doesn't half ass it.
My opinion on the warranty issue is if you offered to replace all potential sources of leaks (gaskets, seals, etc.) prior to installing the used engine and the customer chose to accept the risk of a leak then no warranty. If you did not offer to minimize the risk of a leak by replacing seals and gaskets then a negotiated charge is needed. It basically comes down to what did the customer pay for.
Personally I think you did the right thing. You and your customer shared the risk and hopefully neither of you took too much of a hit financially. You are a good person. Maybe not as good as Dave or Wife Unit but still pretty good!
Pentastar Ray. Because you know these engines very well.
You did the correct thing. Your customer had the chance to have that work done before their used engine was installed.
Hey, you warned her! Good work, RR.
When you have a tube or caulk tube that you won't use for an unknown amount of time ; take dielectric grease and fill the tube opening and a dan in the cap, then screw on. Next use just squeeze out grease and squeeze out sealant 😊
Non warranty repair job, since they did not choose the route of replacing the gaskets prior to engine replacement.
My opinion, initially she was given the option of doing a once over on the used engine to replace all the seals for I guess a better deal since it’s out of the engine compartment, therefore easier. It’s kind of a pay now or pay more later deal. You gave her a good deal, that’s great.
I might be wrong, but I think at 54:40 I spotted two bolts/fasteners you neglected to tighten. otherwise a perfect job was done
The solenoid at 39:47 wasn't tightened as well.
REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time stamp 54:27 You can clearly see the 2 bolts you forgot to tighten on the intake bracket, left side!
Other than installing a junkyard used engine in the first place, that was the only mistake I noticed! LOL
I'm certain you tightened them down after the end of the video. Comment generators are FUN!
Also he did not tighten up first solenoid bolt, I hope he noticed this off camera.
next time you decide to take off the cover sometimes the bolts that hold it on are loose....tightened them up and just maybe the leak will stop.
good place for a wire harness short on that stud and nut under the intake , well the engineers were thinking about nothing .
I agree with your decision; the customer was offered the replacement seals on a second-user engine at the time of installation, so now the repair work is justifiably not warranty. It always used to baffle me how people would bring their 3.8S Jaguar in for an expensive bottom end rebuild and we would use high quality Castrol lubricants, and then a year later the customer would reappear for some unrelated work, and there, stuck over our Castrol 'change the oil at x miles' sticker was a sticker from another local shop, using the cheapest brand of oil in the known universe... I doubt they saved £5 [in 1970] in choosing to bathe their nearly new bearings in oil I would not have used in my lawnmower.
Well Ray you did offer her to reseal it before you put it in .. so it is very fair..
Many times small seepage leaks can be resolved by retorqueing the valve covers in proper sequence. Those rubber in place gaskets will sometimes relax over time through heating cycles.
Ray, you offered a reseal when it was cheap and easy and they said no. Then went cheap ass on the oil change. You owe them absolutely nada hombre!
If you recommended to change a part when installing the engine and they declined, then they should pay. If it was something that failed on install, they, should not pay IMO.
i have been watching you for years and i love the way you work thank you so much
I just did the first oil change on my 23 Ford Maverick Hybrid yesterday and I’m 81 years old. It only had 4,046 miles on it, but it was one year old. I ordered the Motor Craft filter from Amazon $8.44. Costco has their Kirkland brand full synthetic oil on sale right now for $29.99 for 2-5 qt. Jugs. My total cost was less than $25. I did some research on oil and the conclusion was that the Costco oil, produced by Warren Oil Co, was very good. They also produce the Walmart brand. And yes this oil meets the Ford and GM specifications. Look, I understand that Amsoil is a better oil but for my limited driving, my choice was fine for me. Plus I trust myself doing this over most shops, other than Ray’s, but he is far away from me.
Hay ray…did you check the (oil coolant unit)maybe it’s leaking from there because this leaking is normally for all (engine)dodge chargers and challenger and Chrysler …..
I meant to comment this on the other video, don't remember if I actually did or not but, I never thought your floors looked bad at all before, they're shop floors. However, after the new paint, dang man it looks AWESOME
Ray 54:35 2 x bolts ?? did you forget, also did you replace the erm think it was the mass airflow sensor connectorrrr. nice vid just need Moooorrrrrreeeeeee reeeeeeee 👍
G’day from aus it’s now 935 good to c u at it
It looks like it needs the Dorman oil cooler thingy with the orange filter cap.
Yeah...that's ticking away also...🙈
Since they declined resealing before the engine went in, that would be more on them. That's why on an earlier video, I commented that I received a quote from you to reseal the front timing cover and oil pan on my 07 Monte, that if you're going to have to pull the engine out, I should have you quote me for a total reseal ... might as well refresh it while it's out... especially when it'll potentially prevent future leaks and having to do the labor twice. Course right now we're trying to catch up after my roommate had a medical issue that set us back some.
These should’ve been changed before installing them. You’re too nice Ray 😂
Unfortunate but unexpected with a salvage engine. Having a similar experience once, i opted to put a pan under the engine and just check/fill the oil regularly. No oil soak problems of critical items on that engine, just a mess. I eventually did the work myself.