I went from 5300 mmr to 5900 mmr in like 15 days spaming clock pos 4-5, that sh1t is amazing, i love kicking cogs into enemy faces, i laugh the entire games, even if i lost, i enjoy the game so much
I have been theories Ember pos 4/5, and it is so good with the 2nd facet chains. When you rush for scepter after boots and vessel , you are a super long-range disabler. So much fun.
Ironwood Treant NP is the closest thing to Old Techies we've had in years. It's an extremely overpowered playstyle that unfortunately no one understands. I hope Slacks picks it up at some point, it'd be hilarious to watch.
@@alucard92717 The power of Ironwood Treant is that as long as you can hit towers, you auto-win the game. The problem with it is that the enemies will start hunting you down as if posessed once they realize the danger you represent. This is *really* good because it means that the rest of your team is free to farm or push while you're being chased down like a headless chicken all the time, but on the flipside, it's a completely worthless strategy if your teammates don't capitalize on the multiverses of space you're creating. Luckily enough, it's really fucking hard to have a team so unfathomably bad that they won't even farm if given the chance, so as it turns out, Ironwood Treant NP is extremely broken as a result.
@@WoobertAIO Ah, it depending on teammates who are capable of capitalizing on being given all the space in the world does limit its usefulness in pubs... Either way, seems fun and I wanna try it. Any particular power spikes to keep in mind, and what do those spikes enable?
@@Colopty sure! At Level 7 (treants level 4) your Treants deal nearly 100 damage per attack to structures, so you can start obliterating towers in seconds with the help of a creepwave (any creepwave will do, just don't let your treant get hit by a tower, that's it's only weakness). From then onward, take any talent that makes your Treant or your Teleportation better. You should consider getting a Helm of the Dominator/Overlord so you can get a chonky creep to tank tower hits for your Treants when all your allied creeps die, allowing you to destroy towers and barracks in one go no matter what. Also, getting a Solar Crest is all good and fine, but consider getting a Desolator first, as well as a Maelstrom. The increase in DPS Desolator will provide your treants is much higher than Solar Crest, and Maelstrom is to solve the creep pushing issues having a single Treant creates. Remember this too: if the enemy heroes start attacking your Treant, especially in the early/mid game, let them. It gives 18 gold & XP when killed, same as the regular ones, it has 1400 HP, and receives massively reduced damage from heroes' attacks and abilities. Every second your opponents are hitting your Treant is a second they could've spent in something more useful, like farming, pushing, or killing your hero. The amount of psychological damage you will inflict on your enemies by playing this shit is not to be underestimated. Edit: Added some paragraph spacing for visual clarity.
One thing about Oracle's False promise and healing amplification is that it has double effectiveness. Heal that gets delayed by False promise does get amplified by Heal amp, but it also gets amplified at the end when False promise ends, So if I heal 500 hp to a target and get it amplified by 10% getting 550 healing, it will also get amplified at the end of False promise resulting in 605 heal, this is why old vessel with 75% healing amplification was so insanely busted on Oracle
I'm surprised not to see Morph pos 5. He has 1 insane facet (imo) where STR becomes his main attribute. And there was a niche trick to fully heal himself without any tango, salve or faerie fire. Doesn't even need to go back to fountain. Simply fully morph to AGI, backpack items and unpack, morph to STR before all the items gets fully unpacked. Its actually crazy, started seeing it in 5k bracket. Not too broken but I think over time, this might become meta.
I think there should be a huge asterisk that this video is for high tier play. Warlock is a top 10 hero in Legend and below, and currently the highest WR hero in Crusader.
16:23 I think Jenkins has misunderstood what the first facet, Frozen Expanse does. It’s not affecting Arcane Aura, but adding an effect that levels with it (although now it’s freezing field). It increases the cast range and AoE of ALL CM’s spells. So very different to the second facet, it’s more like an innate Aether Lens
@@jarredlyle1855 Willow is best as pos 4 but there were other pos 4 main heroes like lion sb and weaver on this list. Willow is absolutely at least a B tier 5.
As a dedicated Wisp player I see the Medigun facet as an extremely situational pick when you expect a really long game where the extra survivability (which also benefits you) might make the deciding difference. Also I like the innate ability a lot. The extra vision from the watchers is noticeable because you can see people farm ancients at dire secret shop for example.
I think the Kinetic Fence for Disruptor is amazing. It's super fun to play with in lane and even throughout the game. Having two charges of it makes it impossible to run away, not even including the glimpse. HG defense is great, escaping is hard, camp stacking. So many uses for it!!!
@@ivanpaijolin9128 Yeah, best you can do is close them off from two sides but obv they can still walk out. I still think its worth for me. Feels better with how I play him
Hello Jenkins I've been doing well in turbo ancient OCE with Chen, which as far as I know is representative of the top 0.1% of Dota 2. Go mid, Aghs by 6, and just spam Martyrdom. Aghs gives hand of god 4 charges (Convert a creep, wait cd, Martyrdom, convert, Martyrdom, facet creep, Martyrdom, Ult with another conversion not far away). Very common to have more healing then highest damage in the game. And 25 hard dispel, that's 13 hard dispels in a fight. A click the jungle and spam alt to see HP bars at the top, and heal via the portraits for some real hands off gaming. Please consider moving him to D+ he is a very good POS 5 when played in the midlane and has lots of money like all pos 5 in turbo
For me dark willow is tire A, hood tier A, sniper tier A as well nice supports. Yea sniper with new first skill, aganim, euls, witch blade, solar, glimmer, later parasma, wind waker
Jakiro double strike is anything but a meme. Insta kill wards/weaver bugs/grimstroke phantoms Kill phoenix ult /undying tombstone twice as fast (especially with 200 atk range talent). Any one of these benefits can turn an entire game arround.
Crystal Maidens "Frozen expanse" facet gives her cast range and aoe bonus, it doesnt only work on arcane aura, its simply a mini bloodstone and lense. When you said both give mana and one is better than the other, thats completely wrong. One gives mana to teammates and the other increases cast range and aoe, which makes your Q W and R just a better spells
I like ET this patch, the thing that you can have 2 spells on level 1 pretty good. In laning stage having the facet decreasing armour makes almost all heroes with 0 armour in 2 secs really helps with early kills and the other one is basically is free attack speed as long your movement speed is bigger than 250 ms which is more suitable for cores i guess.🙂
jenkins knows that unlike witch doctor, dark willow will not get nerfed so he avoided promoting cancer. and speaking of cancer, i still can't believe someone in valve said "yes, we will give this mf a BUILT IN RADIANCE LVL 1"
About Elder Titan, Deconstruction is ok, Momentum is decent, you have 138 attack speed on lvl 1 and if you pair that with Astral Spirit, you can very comfortably trade with supports and even cores, but Titan really is better as a core now, especially offlane, he does farm pretty slow but you can fix that by ganking
i had 70% wr on techies completely curb stomping every game pos 4 and took a break before the updates, came back after a 3 months and couldnt understand why techies felt so shit and just found out about the nerf in this video, i guess im taking a break until techies is buffed again.
back when i played like 2016. like meepo was best all lanes. u could buy boots of travel permanently mass farm mass heal mass gank mass split push. another solid pick later few years later was luna. where once u got aghanihms and refresher. she could double cast her ult from a mile away from opponents to clean out enemy enemies. it outright killz all enemy heros single handedly. ONLY thing be watchful for is to not use it near minions or jungle camps as they might absorb the damage. the thing with luna was her was broken literally thus made her great pick. im not sure if her ult is still broken.
its insane to me that abaddon is not on any of these lists. okay he gets hard countered by some heros and is pretty situational but he is such a great counter to the strongest heros on that list. he purges everything can take a ton of dmg is such a great save and when he gets aghs, everyone just cries.
jenkins pls add pango to any tier list except the mid lane. i play support pango and his thunderbolt facet make it so you dont need blink to solo carry on level 6 (like the way its intended back when he release)
I had mixed feelings about disruptor's kinetic fence but after a few games of using it.....I love it, perhaps not as good as kinetic field but the multiple charges is nice and allows for some nice blocks to be set.
I had a dream about you last night and woke up to this video. A bit odd considering I haven't played dota since 2021... maybe it was because of your luscious locks
Heavily object to Hood being that low. Pretty much guaranteeing a bounce on acorn shot is so strong in the early game that if you get a lead out of it, the cast range loss tradeoff doesn't matter.
Tbf elder removes base armor and with this facet he also removes additional armor every second. Imo it's a nieche pick where you go full tank unkillable god against a team of such picks and just let them jump you, wait a couple seconds then your team counter inotiates. Probably not for support tho. Probably better for offlane.
how do i post herald games for him i have one where my offlane griefed and went 0-67 and was 1 jhr 27 min game he took all wards and took all neutrals and got boots of travel to tele and die faster
What about Tinker POS5. Ive been playing it recently with the Healbot facet and getting Holy Locket. Its great to heal allies in any lane hitting the lvl 6 timing. Thoughts?
she Jenkins on my Tier List til i Update
Tuh
She updateon my tierlist till I jenkin
I jenkin my penits
I didnt understand, why she?
hello mr brave little abacus
Dark Willow is the biggest oversight from Junkins.
i see what you did there.
DW is just better pos 4
Willow is way better as a 4 you really need some gold
A tier
[Nyx'n silence]
I went from 5300 mmr to 5900 mmr in like 15 days spaming clock pos 4-5, that sh1t is amazing, i love kicking cogs into enemy faces, i laugh the entire games, even if i lost, i enjoy the game so much
I played lifestealer against that cancer pos 4 clock. I won the game but still feels like I lost because the game was very annoying
Getting hit by 3 cogs from a single cast is the most annoying sht ever. Needs a rework again.
i spammed Clock as Offlaner and Midlaner, it was amazing
@@stardustlucas lost to offlane clock yesterday. Nightmare fuel adding him to ban list. Won the game, but lost the lane thats all that matters >:)
That hero is so dumb right now.
Why is Silencer in D tier if Jenkins got silenced 57 times during the video?
Bro counted💀
Playing pos5 healed jenkins from the last offlane tier list
25:25 I love this analogy for NP
I almost spat out my coffee, that was awesome.
Yo this level of editing on a 27-minute tier list video is CRACKED
YEAH IT OWNS
when he said "bIGGER" and the camera zoomed in to his face I got scared for a second
I mean, can't you fault him? The cog size is hyuuuggeee.
Clock got some nice cogs.
I have been theories Ember pos 4/5, and it is so good with the 2nd facet chains. When you rush for scepter after boots and vessel , you are a super long-range disabler. So much fun.
Bro can't you make more content this is SO entertaining
Ironwood Treant NP is the closest thing to Old Techies we've had in years. It's an extremely overpowered playstyle that unfortunately no one understands.
I hope Slacks picks it up at some point, it'd be hilarious to watch.
Care to elaborate on that at all?
@@alucard92717 The power of Ironwood Treant is that as long as you can hit towers, you auto-win the game. The problem with it is that the enemies will start hunting you down as if posessed once they realize the danger you represent.
This is *really* good because it means that the rest of your team is free to farm or push while you're being chased down like a headless chicken all the time, but on the flipside, it's a completely worthless strategy if your teammates don't capitalize on the multiverses of space you're creating.
Luckily enough, it's really fucking hard to have a team so unfathomably bad that they won't even farm if given the chance, so as it turns out, Ironwood Treant NP is extremely broken as a result.
@@WoobertAIOplus that lvl 25 talent that triples its stats. You can backdoor a tower with a solar crest on one.
@@WoobertAIO Ah, it depending on teammates who are capable of capitalizing on being given all the space in the world does limit its usefulness in pubs...
Either way, seems fun and I wanna try it. Any particular power spikes to keep in mind, and what do those spikes enable?
@@Colopty sure!
At Level 7 (treants level 4) your Treants deal nearly 100 damage per attack to structures, so you can start obliterating towers in seconds with the help of a creepwave (any creepwave will do, just don't let your treant get hit by a tower, that's it's only weakness).
From then onward, take any talent that makes your Treant or your Teleportation better.
You should consider getting a Helm of the Dominator/Overlord so you can get a chonky creep to tank tower hits for your Treants when all your allied creeps die, allowing you to destroy towers and barracks in one go no matter what.
Also, getting a Solar Crest is all good and fine, but consider getting a Desolator first, as well as a Maelstrom. The increase in DPS Desolator will provide your treants is much higher than Solar Crest, and Maelstrom is to solve the creep pushing issues having a single Treant creates.
Remember this too: if the enemy heroes start attacking your Treant, especially in the early/mid game, let them. It gives 18 gold & XP when killed, same as the regular ones, it has 1400 HP, and receives massively reduced damage from heroes' attacks and abilities.
Every second your opponents are hitting your Treant is a second they could've spent in something more useful, like farming, pushing, or killing your hero.
The amount of psychological damage you will inflict on your enemies by playing this shit is not to be underestimated.
Edit: Added some paragraph spacing for visual clarity.
jenkins you can prevent pango from rolling forward with kinetic fence. i dont usually take it but if there is a pango on the enemy it's very good
Witch doctor can deal 60 dps at lv1, which is literally carrying a radiance...
The mid build where you go bloodstone radiance, if you get ahead in lane (which you will as you auto win trades) then you’re just a dps monster
it's 30, which is half a radiance. And you heal for half of it
It also only heals witch doctor. Mid maybe
But I can’t afford not to have my bounce damage tried without feels awful. Only one option really
One thing about Oracle's False promise and healing amplification is that it has double effectiveness. Heal that gets delayed by False promise does get amplified by Heal amp, but it also gets amplified at the end when False promise ends, So if I heal 500 hp to a target and get it amplified by 10% getting 550 healing, it will also get amplified at the end of False promise resulting in 605 heal, this is why old vessel with 75% healing amplification was so insanely busted on Oracle
I'm surprised not to see Morph pos 5. He has 1 insane facet (imo) where STR becomes his main attribute. And there was a niche trick to fully heal himself without any tango, salve or faerie fire. Doesn't even need to go back to fountain. Simply fully morph to AGI, backpack items and unpack, morph to STR before all the items gets fully unpacked.
Its actually crazy, started seeing it in 5k bracket. Not too broken but I think over time, this might become meta.
The silence sfx bothered me more than it should
yeah, it's ass. It would be better to use the "meep" error sound
Theorycrafted and tested the NP with ironwood + solarcrest as the patch came out. It's hilarious how fast a T1 tower melts. :'D
as a pos 6 i personally could not be prouder of you coming out of your pos 5 addiction #hopeandlove
I think there should be a huge asterisk that this video is for high tier play. Warlock is a top 10 hero in Legend and below, and currently the highest WR hero in Crusader.
16:23 I think Jenkins has misunderstood what the first facet, Frozen Expanse does. It’s not affecting Arcane Aura, but adding an effect that levels with it (although now it’s freezing field). It increases the cast range and AoE of ALL CM’s spells. So very different to the second facet, it’s more like an innate Aether Lens
i thought ET was insane since it was picked a lot as 5 recently
ET position 3 has top 5 best win rates in the game in higher mmr
Thank you kind Jenkins. Why no murder gloves?
I love the kinetics fence from Disruptor. It prevents hg , escapes, and a good save. 2 charges, and if you time it right , you can use a 3rd time.
9:04 that's not just a picture going around, it actually looks like that in game
where is willow in s-tier best sup of the patch ???
Yeah willow being completely off the list is a goofy mistake lmao
Willow is pos4
@@jarredlyle1855 Willow is best as pos 4 but there were other pos 4 main heroes like lion sb and weaver on this list. Willow is absolutely at least a B tier 5.
@Stealth-16 I agree. I think Jenkins either forgot or has recently been griefed by willow ags rusher haha
As a dedicated Wisp player I see the Medigun facet as an extremely situational pick when you expect a really long game where the extra survivability (which also benefits you) might make the deciding difference. Also I like the innate ability a lot. The extra vision from the watchers is noticeable because you can see people farm ancients at dire secret shop for example.
I think the Kinetic Fence for Disruptor is amazing. It's super fun to play with in lane and even throughout the game. Having two charges of it makes it impossible to run away, not even including the glimpse. HG defense is great, escaping is hard, camp stacking. So many uses for it!!!
But you can't trap enemy inside your ult anymore. Not worth
@@ivanpaijolin9128 Yeah, best you can do is close them off from two sides but obv they can still walk out. I still think its worth for me. Feels better with how I play him
Hello Jenkins
I've been doing well in turbo ancient OCE with Chen, which as far as I know is representative of the top 0.1% of Dota 2.
Go mid, Aghs by 6, and just spam Martyrdom.
Aghs gives hand of god 4 charges (Convert a creep, wait cd, Martyrdom, convert, Martyrdom, facet creep, Martyrdom, Ult with another conversion not far away).
Very common to have more healing then highest damage in the game. And 25 hard dispel, that's 13 hard dispels in a fight.
A click the jungle and spam alt to see HP bars at the top, and heal via the portraits for some real hands off gaming.
Please consider moving him to D+ he is a very good POS 5 when played in the midlane and has lots of money like all pos 5 in turbo
I'm playing np with solar and vlads and let me tell you, that shit is broken, 6 game win strike 💥
Please do a nature's profit video like you did years back. It was very helpful
veno jungle every game i get 1000 mmr
i come out with greave and crimson and we just win
it never fails
Japlin's obsession with Nature's Prophet will always be one of life's great mysteries
Little does Jenkins know that the SSS tier was Sven all along
ES with Aghs and the increased aftershock is chefs kiss, the w stun is insane for saving teammates, escaping, and ruining lifesteal players days.
watching that OG pro game with storm kotl spamming recall to the next camp was pretty funny.
didnt know recall applied chakramagic now too
20:18 You did not *silence* on that one 😲
For me dark willow is tire A, hood tier A, sniper tier A as well nice supports.
Yea sniper with new first skill, aganim, euls, witch blade, solar, glimmer, later parasma, wind waker
Valve really missed the chance of giving tiny the passive of being immune to petrify from Medusa
wow a whole passive waisted to counter one spell from one hero... good that youre not working at game balance xd
I also have been stomping with np anf treant
Sooooo good! Love seeing the hero's i spam on the top of the list
Jenkins tier lists patch notes: now has animations
Good video, really useful. Please don't stop doing this!
i cant handle this too many jenkins channels
Jakiro double strike is anything but a meme.
Insta kill wards/weaver bugs/grimstroke phantoms
Kill phoenix ult /undying tombstone twice as fast (especially with 200 atk range talent).
Any one of these benefits can turn an entire game arround.
No Abaddon?
Hold up, this editing has stepped up massively damn
Crystal Maidens "Frozen expanse" facet gives her cast range and aoe bonus, it doesnt only work on arcane aura, its simply a mini bloodstone and lense. When you said both give mana and one is better than the other, thats completely wrong. One gives mana to teammates and the other increases cast range and aoe, which makes your Q W and R just a better spells
I like ET this patch, the thing that you can have 2 spells on level 1 pretty good. In laning stage having the facet decreasing armour makes almost all heroes with 0 armour in 2 secs really helps with early kills and the other one is basically is free attack speed as long your movement speed is bigger than 250 ms which is more suitable for cores i guess.🙂
Thank you jenkins for not putting aba on this list, cuz he for sure is S tier in my mind
Thanks man! Love your tier lists!
jenkins knows that unlike witch doctor, dark willow will not get nerfed so he avoided promoting cancer. and speaking of cancer, i still can't believe someone in valve said "yes, we will give this mf a BUILT IN RADIANCE LVL 1"
It's not just radiance. It's the fact, that he can fucking sustain-heal himself lol
Thank you. You look like the vocalist from BMTH.
morph is gr8 supp too with the new facet str and can really help team 3sec stun that get 4 sec at level 20 if u want
JENKINS you muppet you forgot abaddon ahs rush you silly goose i am winning so many games wake up
What about Abaddon 5? Where would you place him?
About Elder Titan, Deconstruction is ok, Momentum is decent, you have 138 attack speed on lvl 1 and if you pair that with Astral Spirit, you can very comfortably trade with supports and even cores, but Titan really is better as a core now, especially offlane, he does farm pretty slow but you can fix that by ganking
not me a chen main, still clinging the 2012 chen of puppey set, giggling his even mention, I love my garbage - Oscar Sesame street
The editing getting kind of slick with it
One of my teammates dominated with mid jakiro with the spell amp. It was ridiculous. Also been undefeated with lich as a support this patch. 😂
i had 70% wr on techies completely curb stomping every game pos 4 and took a break before the updates, came back after a 3 months and couldnt understand why techies felt so shit and just found out about the nerf in this video, i guess im taking a break until techies is buffed again.
"Are you an annoying person?"
*me having 400 games on old techies*
Nice list, thank you very much!
back when i played like 2016. like meepo was best all lanes. u could buy boots of travel permanently mass farm mass heal mass gank mass split push.
another solid pick later few years later was luna. where once u got aghanihms and refresher. she could double cast her ult from a mile away from opponents to clean out enemy enemies. it outright killz all enemy heros single handedly. ONLY thing be watchful for is to not use it near minions or jungle camps as they might absorb the damage.
the thing with luna was her was broken literally thus made her great pick. im not sure if her ult is still broken.
Pudge on b tier is insane. But as someone who always get hooked under tower i could vouch that pudge strong TT
Nobody is talking about the headhunter facet of WD. The q deals 600 damage per hero
Why would you take that when you can literally zone 2 heroes completely off the creep wave by yourself at level 1 with festeration.
No dawnbreaker support? Cmon Jenkins!
Jenkins still believe in 1 facet from UD, while the other is god tier buff for cores
killer video my dude
its insane to me that abaddon is not on any of these lists. okay he gets hard countered by some heros and is pretty situational but he is such a great counter to the strongest heros on that list. he purges everything can take a ton of dmg is such a great save and when he gets aghs, everyone just cries.
Jenkins been losing weight and looks like going to gym good work
Clockwork what get's bigger? Clockwork what damage?
@Jenkins Tier Lists ... ;) CANCELED! where is the ABADDON love. Aba god tier support .
Ty for video :)
jenkins pls add pango to any tier list except the mid lane. i play support pango and his thunderbolt facet make it so you dont need blink to solo carry on level 6 (like the way its intended back when he release)
I like these videos! I think if you switched up the censoring noise and cycled between other iconic dota noises that could improve engagement.
I want from 2 to 200000 mmr in 2 hours just from this video! Thank you jakens!
I had mixed feelings about disruptor's kinetic fence but after a few games of using it.....I love it, perhaps not as good as kinetic field but the multiple charges is nice and allows for some nice blocks to be set.
I had a dream about you last night and woke up to this video. A bit odd considering I haven't played dota since 2021... maybe it was because of your luscious locks
actually slept on kolt's recall facet. infinite mana and cooldowns.
When I see Hoodwink in the D tier... but picked or banned every game at Riyadh...
Heavily object to Hood being that low. Pretty much guaranteeing a bounce on acorn shot is so strong in the early game that if you get a lead out of it, the cast range loss tradeoff doesn't matter.
Tbf elder removes base armor and with this facet he also removes additional armor every second. Imo it's a nieche pick where you go full tank unkillable god against a team of such picks and just let them jump you, wait a couple seconds then your team counter inotiates. Probably not for support tho. Probably better for offlane.
Hey Jenkins you’re hilarious, we love you, please produce more content if you can
Silencer is good, since you can get mask of madness and still use glaives
Not good as a 5.
I have been spamming witch doctor for the last 10 patches, The Heal is great, I will continue to win with him even if they remove it.
Someone get this hungry girl a happy meal.
jenkin have you seen the crazy attack speed on ET and winrate with the right facet.
I don't think you're annoying, Jenkins. I'd holler at you if I see you at a party, maybe even have a chat about anime and shit.
12:44 jenkins is c tier
D : techies
C : techies
B : techies
A : techies
S : squee, spleen, spoon
Mr Jenkins I've always enjoyed your tier list videos but this one seems to have a lot more work put in, death to S-Tier skippers
thank god there is not my top secret pos5 hero with 71% winrate on this list
When I get a functional sim card I'll finally get the chance to buy a Steam Deck to play Dota for the first time in over a decade.
You forgot Morph Pos 4, Its like upgraded Rubick
Getting Radiance on pos 5 Phoenix will make my carry break his
Me: *Sees Pos 5 Techies in D tier*
Also me: *Playing Techies on a 20 winstreak on pos 5 techies*
Check Abaddon. The heal + shield can be insane.
have to dump the stranglin' gloves?
how do i post herald games for him i have one where my offlane griefed and went 0-67 and was 1 jhr 27 min game he took all wards and took all neutrals and got boots of travel to tele and die faster
I would put Silencer on Tier A or B. No more comment afterwards 😊
What about Tinker POS5. Ive been playing it recently with the Healbot facet and getting Holy Locket. Its great to heal allies in any lane hitting the lvl 6 timing. Thoughts?
guaranteed he'll be at least B in 7.37 tier list