The rule at the halfway point says that you can write a name after writing the cause of death. This happens before when Light writes "dies after sending everyone the names of the FBI agents" and Raye Penber fills in his superior's name and unknowingly makes that happen. The page is also in a cover so Raye never touched the notebook or saw the details.
I can't tell you how happy I am that you picked up on Misa's natural lifespan still probably being extremely long despite doing the Shinigami eye deal. I've thought that for years and I've never seen someone else pick up on it. These reactions are always very insightful and fun, the commentary never feels vapid.
In this context, "even if you do not possess the note" means "even if you are not the owner of the note." You still have to physically write the name in the space in front of the cause, it's just saying you don't have to be the actual owner (owner being the person the Shinigami has to follow around). So the owner could write the cause of death and then someone else could insert the name and it still works, despite the fact that two different people wrote two different parts.
Interesting thing is that if Light would have not tell L about shinigami earlier, in his encrypted notes, then Misa's plan would have worked - everyone would think that "eyes" and "shinigami" are some kind of cipher, some kind of random code. But since two independent Kiras talked about shinigami, it became obvious that this code is not random. So it wasn't so stupid of Misa to talk about shinigami in public. I would even actually blame Light - unlike Misa, he did not have a serious reason to tell anything about shinigamis to L. He did that to just scratch his own ego. So yeah, this mistake is on Light's ego again, in the end.
"Gelus became something that was neither sand nor rust" is, i think, one of the best descriptions of an otherworldly substance ive ever read. Its always stuck with me.
Another brilliant reaction! Misa is such a ray of light for having such a dark aesthetic! She awakened my sense of fashion and I still add goth elements to my outfits because of her!
Personal theory: Shinigamis are previous death note users who ended up in shinigami realm (neither hell nor heaven) it's their form of punishment that they have to kill for eternity BUT when they saves a human out of love, they get freed from this punishment. Meaning Shinigami dying is freedom from that nothingness.
Speaking of DN rules: anime adaptation covers *some* of them in the scene break splash screens, but in the original there were dozens upon dozens (definitely over 50) of rules that Ryuk simply didn't bother to write down (and some of them even he didn't know existed). Like, for example, babies younger than one year of age are fully immune to effects of all DNs and lose that immunity on their first birthday. Or the fact that writing down a person's name while deliberately misspelling his name five times in the note makes that person permanently immune to that specific note (but not the other ones). Most of them are extremely specific and just serve as flavor text, but if all of them were properly written in, we would've had a very different show with plot going in a very different direction. I think there was a wiki that had all of them recorded in one place, but it might be a bit too spoilery to read them before at least reaching last quarter of the story.
Fun Fact: There is a Death Note novel about the BB Murder Case which was mentioned earlier in the show by L and Naomi. One of the characters in this novel was born with Shinigami Eyes. Some people connect L's initial reaction when Misa first metioned "the eyes" ( 9:33 ) with L's knowledge about the BB murder cases and said person. While it is stated that, back then, L didn't figure out that said person had the "Eyes", he could've definitely connected and realized it the moment Misa mentioned them
11:51 Somebody still needs to write the victim's name down. It just doesn't need to be the same person who wrote the cause of death and details surrounding it while leaving the name blank. That's exactly how Light made Raye Penber kill his own boss, while also making said boss email all his employees to reveal their names and faces to each other. Light wrote the details, then Raye wrote the name, then the boss did exactly as Light dictated.
one of the funniest quirks about Light is that he frequently had the ability to give himself breathing room by convincing others that there is only 1 Kira. But he is so arrogant he cant stand the idea that someone might recieve credit for his work.
L's tests are always lose lose situations if you're seeing it as proving innocence test, to L it's more of a personality test to get to know Kira's thought process better
when the rule talks i think it means you don't have to be the 'owner' of the notebook to use it. like how light wrote the details of the death then let raye penber write the names on a sheet from the notebook. not that you can psychically do it. but that if you write the name while picturing the face in a blank in front of the details the details still work even if you didn't write the details or even know of them.
When I watched the show, all those years ago, I somehow completely missed the part about Misa getting Gelous's extra life. I wonder if that was a dubism or ifnI just missed it, but it does make sense since the whole point was that her "natural" lifespan was over, so I guess everything that came after had to come from somewhere. And you're right, that definitely seems to make the eye-deal less of a sacrifice
The rules that were read after L freaked out. The intermission. This is how Ray penbur died. If you rememebr, L had him write the name of his boss first. The boss was scheduled to send the name of all fbi agents in japan. Which he did. Then ray wrote the names of all the agents in the empty spots. Killing all of them. Ray not only killed his boss but all of the FBI agents. So thats what i think the intermission was trying to tell you.
Light had Ray Penber use that method you've read. He wrote the cause of death for all the FBI agents as well as for the head of the FBI team to send the files before dying which gave Ray all the names and faces of his team which let him kill them. Light technically only kill Ray in the whole FBI fiasco and Ray killed the rest using that weird rule. I always wondered how light figured that it would work - my guess is that it was an assumption or that Ryuk said others can use it despite not being the owners. This is definitely a light flaw imo in terms of the writing but it's no big deal. It's more of light contrivance (no pun intended) and not a plot hole.
If I recall correctly, in that episode Light tells Ryuk he was experimenting with criminals and found out that you can write the name at a later time and Ryuk says even he wasn’t aware of that. Also, in many of the death note rule panels, it does state a person who is not an owner can write names within the notebook
@Quonton11 most of the rules do not appear in the actual death note which is why I'm not really seeing a proper explanation. I've watched the show countless times (probably my 3rd favorite anime) and I've read the manga twice as well as the companion book. The only rules written are the ones Light reads in the first episode. SPOILER FOR FUTURE EPISODES: . . . When the police gets their hands on the death note, they see the same rules, except with the added extra rule. And those types of explanations aren't there. I will later go search it up and update this comment with all the rules provided in Ryuk's death note. I'm fairly certain a super majority of the rules are not given to the characters and are simply the notes in the ad breaks and compiled in the companion book (volume 13).
Fun reaction as usual. I don't believe that's quite what the mid-episode screen is saying. What it is saying is that anything written in the notebook has an "expiration date". You have up to 19 days to write a name *to* a cause of death in order to make it happen (if it doesn't already have a date that has already passed), if you write a name on the 20th day or beyond, nothing will happen. Rules are still the same. You still need to write their real name in any piece attached or detached from the notebook. Which means you can have just the blank space after the cause of death on hand, and writting just the name then will have the full cause. I think what it is stabilishing is the pages still have some kind of agency even after shredded, and the only thing that can make them stop from working as intended is the actual expiration date of what is written; or a subsequent rule (like misspelling the name or having an impossible death described). At least that is as far as I remember from the story, I haven't read or watched source in over a decade, I could be wrong, but I don't think there are any telekinectic kills in this. And the observation about Misa is true. She *did* have an undisclosed amount of years well above human expectations. *However* she took the pact for the eyes *before* she knew she did, which still makes her pretty cuckoo crazy if you ask me. I don't know if listing the rules of the Death Note counts as a spoiler, and I'm not sure that the show will go super into it later, but there's one specific rule about someone stealing/killing the owner of a Death Note, and that is more likely the reason why Misa gets the Death Note rather than it being a gift so to say.
Misa’s definitely my favorite character, mainly because she’s so much smarter than people give her credit for. She’s just competing with two FREAK geniuses XD
You said earlier you had three degrees in literature (which is AMAZING btw) which is probably why you're so smart, I'm genuinely surprised at some of the things you pick up but it's really cool. I wish I could speak with someone like you after I watch a bunch of things. I really like the idea of someone who's just so smart and good at analysis in media. I need to find someone this smart that I can watch stuff with.
If I would need to choose a Death Note Character to be friends with, i would definitely pick Rem. I sympathize wish Misa a lot, and I absolutely adore L. But Rem deserves all hugs in the world, and Misa should really appreciate Rem more.
I never understand why Death Note fandom makes only Light as a villain and Misa as just a cutie girl when she is even more reckless killer than Light 😭 what's with Light bad Misa good argument 😭
That is honestly so true. Death Note somehow managed to mask the idea that Misa must have more than just a few loose screws in order to behave the way she does, while performing mass murders. You keep watching her being adorable and acting childish....and then it hits you 👀. But that's one of the reasons why I love her character: she's such a wildcard 😆
You're doing the same argument. I never said Misa was good. She just has a much more relatable motive for her actions than Light. Her trauma influences her behaviour. Light just has a god complex and an ego. Everyone bashes Misa for doing the exact same as Light with more justifiable means to do so but will never credit her because she's a woman.
I don't want to give you spoilers but they mention the reason why Misa admires Kira, the relationship between them is not all that great but it is very interesting. You have very good deductions 😁
The note in the middle of the episode basically means you can write the situation for the death of a person and fill in the name later on. Based on what you read you'd have 90 days to fill in the blank? Even if you are not the owner of the deathbook, it kills them if you write it while thinking of their face (which is how Ray Penber unadvertedly killed all his colleages in the train). The bit of Shinigami lifespan being added to the person, thats wild. Misa could very well live for 1k years for all we know so far LOL damn. So who cares about half of that for the eyes. Ty for the reaction
I believe Rem gave Gelus’s Death Note to Misa simply because Shinigami don’t really have families and he was in love with her, so she was the closest thing he had to a next of kin
The rule at the halfway point says that you can write a name after writing the cause of death. This happens before when Light writes "dies after sending everyone the names of the FBI agents" and Raye Penber fills in his superior's name and unknowingly makes that happen. The page is also in a cover so Raye never touched the notebook or saw the details.
I can't tell you how happy I am that you picked up on Misa's natural lifespan still probably being extremely long despite doing the Shinigami eye deal. I've thought that for years and I've never seen someone else pick up on it. These reactions are always very insightful and fun, the commentary never feels vapid.
AH LOOK AT US GO!! Yeah - I would take the deal if I had an extended life span like Misa!!
Yeah, realistically, she may have saved herself some awkward questions when she hit 200
In this context, "even if you do not possess the note" means "even if you are not the owner of the note." You still have to physically write the name in the space in front of the cause, it's just saying you don't have to be the actual owner (owner being the person the Shinigami has to follow around). So the owner could write the cause of death and then someone else could insert the name and it still works, despite the fact that two different people wrote two different parts.
Interesting thing is that if Light would have not tell L about shinigami earlier, in his encrypted notes, then Misa's plan would have worked - everyone would think that "eyes" and "shinigami" are some kind of cipher, some kind of random code. But since two independent Kiras talked about shinigami, it became obvious that this code is not random. So it wasn't so stupid of Misa to talk about shinigami in public. I would even actually blame Light - unlike Misa, he did not have a serious reason to tell anything about shinigamis to L. He did that to just scratch his own ego. So yeah, this mistake is on Light's ego again, in the end.
Exactly, I never understand why people think Misa is dumb for mentioning shinigami when Light did it first to taunt L
@yusrawaleed9772 I guess it's because Light himself is saying this in the very episode, and no alternative opinions were made on screen.
"Gelus became something that was neither sand nor rust" is, i think, one of the best descriptions of an otherworldly substance ive ever read. Its always stuck with me.
I suspect the idea is the Shinigami don't quite know what salt is for some reason.
It's always stuck with me as well. It suggests something just beyond the edge of our comprehension and conveys a somber and, perhaps, numinous beauty.
Misa is one of my favorite characters, she is smarter than people think (and honestly, even her doesn’t realize that). Love your reaction! ❤
She really is!! I think Light might underestimate her for sure!!
Another brilliant reaction! Misa is such a ray of light for having such a dark aesthetic! She awakened my sense of fashion and I still add goth elements to my outfits because of her!
I feel like she'd have been my fashion icon if I had watched this in my teens!
Personal theory: Shinigamis are previous death note users who ended up in shinigami realm (neither hell nor heaven) it's their form of punishment that they have to kill for eternity BUT when they saves a human out of love, they get freed from this punishment. Meaning Shinigami dying is freedom from that nothingness.
nobody goes to heaven or hell they go to 'Mu' or nothingness
I've had this theory for ages too!
Really appreciate the way you share your thoughts and theories, makes it quite clear how much you enjoy and pay attention to this show.
Thank you so much!! I really do enjoy this show - it's so much fun to watch!
Never cease to amaze me how insightful your reactions are. Not only that but also very cleaver.
Speaking of DN rules: anime adaptation covers *some* of them in the scene break splash screens, but in the original there were dozens upon dozens (definitely over 50) of rules that Ryuk simply didn't bother to write down (and some of them even he didn't know existed). Like, for example, babies younger than one year of age are fully immune to effects of all DNs and lose that immunity on their first birthday. Or the fact that writing down a person's name while deliberately misspelling his name five times in the note makes that person permanently immune to that specific note (but not the other ones). Most of them are extremely specific and just serve as flavor text, but if all of them were properly written in, we would've had a very different show with plot going in a very different direction. I think there was a wiki that had all of them recorded in one place, but it might be a bit too spoilery to read them before at least reaching last quarter of the story.
Yeah I'll definitely hold off until I've finished the show! Just in case!
Let's go! Sophie got this out quickly! 🎉
Fun Fact: There is a Death Note novel about the BB Murder Case which was mentioned earlier in the show by L and Naomi. One of the characters in this novel was born with Shinigami Eyes. Some people connect L's initial reaction when Misa first metioned "the eyes" ( 9:33 ) with L's knowledge about the BB murder cases and said person. While it is stated that, back then, L didn't figure out that said person had the "Eyes", he could've definitely connected and realized it the moment Misa mentioned them
OH COOL!! I need to read this novel!!
@@DrSophieDarlingReactsit’s probably the beat piece of death note spin-off media!! But it does have spoilers for much later on in the show! :))
My headcanon is L never believed that guy until now when Misa mentioned shinigami eyes
@@DrSophieDarlingReacts It's narrated and commentated on by a character introduced later, so wait until you finish the show.
11:51 Somebody still needs to write the victim's name down. It just doesn't need to be the same person who wrote the cause of death and details surrounding it while leaving the name blank. That's exactly how Light made Raye Penber kill his own boss, while also making said boss email all his employees to reveal their names and faces to each other. Light wrote the details, then Raye wrote the name, then the boss did exactly as Light dictated.
Girrrrl your analysis is so good, not saying right but i love the way your brain thinks!
one of the funniest quirks about Light is that he frequently had the ability to give himself breathing room by convincing others that there is only 1 Kira. But he is so arrogant he cant stand the idea that someone might recieve credit for his work.
L's tests are always lose lose situations if you're seeing it as proving innocence test, to L it's more of a personality test to get to know Kira's thought process better
Misa probably responsible for my awful taste in women
😂 she was the template
I grew out of that phase long ago thankfully.
@@supergobgoblin424that she's crazy, frivolous and dumb as a rock? Not to mention a killer?
The foresight is crazy! 😮
when the rule talks i think it means you don't have to be the 'owner' of the notebook to use it. like how light wrote the details of the death then let raye penber write the names on a sheet from the notebook. not that you can psychically do it. but that if you write the name while picturing the face in a blank in front of the details the details still work even if you didn't write the details or even know of them.
When I watched the show, all those years ago, I somehow completely missed the part about Misa getting Gelous's extra life. I wonder if that was a dubism or ifnI just missed it, but it does make sense since the whole point was that her "natural" lifespan was over, so I guess everything that came after had to come from somewhere. And you're right, that definitely seems to make the eye-deal less of a sacrifice
I believe in the manga, Misa said she thought her life was saved by Kira, and that's why she's so obsessed with him. Here, she attributes it to luck.
Ohhhh that definitely makes sense!!
The rules that were read after L freaked out. The intermission. This is how Ray penbur died. If you rememebr, L had him write the name of his boss first. The boss was scheduled to send the name of all fbi agents in japan. Which he did. Then ray wrote the names of all the agents in the empty spots. Killing all of them. Ray not only killed his boss but all of the FBI agents.
So thats what i think the intermission was trying to tell you.
Light had Ray Penber use that method you've read. He wrote the cause of death for all the FBI agents as well as for the head of the FBI team to send the files before dying which gave Ray all the names and faces of his team which let him kill them.
Light technically only kill Ray in the whole FBI fiasco and Ray killed the rest using that weird rule. I always wondered how light figured that it would work - my guess is that it was an assumption or that Ryuk said others can use it despite not being the owners. This is definitely a light flaw imo in terms of the writing but it's no big deal. It's more of light contrivance (no pun intended) and not a plot hole.
If I recall correctly, in that episode Light tells Ryuk he was experimenting with criminals and found out that you can write the name at a later time and Ryuk says even he wasn’t aware of that. Also, in many of the death note rule panels, it does state a person who is not an owner can write names within the notebook
@Quonton11 most of the rules do not appear in the actual death note which is why I'm not really seeing a proper explanation. I've watched the show countless times (probably my 3rd favorite anime) and I've read the manga twice as well as the companion book. The only rules written are the ones Light reads in the first episode.
SPOILER FOR FUTURE EPISODES:
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When the police gets their hands on the death note, they see the same rules, except with the added extra rule. And those types of explanations aren't there. I will later go search it up and update this comment with all the rules provided in Ryuk's death note. I'm fairly certain a super majority of the rules are not given to the characters and are simply the notes in the ad breaks and compiled in the companion book (volume 13).
Fun reaction as usual.
I don't believe that's quite what the mid-episode screen is saying. What it is saying is that anything written in the notebook has an "expiration date". You have up to 19 days to write a name *to* a cause of death in order to make it happen (if it doesn't already have a date that has already passed), if you write a name on the 20th day or beyond, nothing will happen.
Rules are still the same. You still need to write their real name in any piece attached or detached from the notebook. Which means you can have just the blank space after the cause of death on hand, and writting just the name then will have the full cause.
I think what it is stabilishing is the pages still have some kind of agency even after shredded, and the only thing that can make them stop from working as intended is the actual expiration date of what is written; or a subsequent rule (like misspelling the name or having an impossible death described).
At least that is as far as I remember from the story, I haven't read or watched source in over a decade, I could be wrong, but I don't think there are any telekinectic kills in this.
And the observation about Misa is true. She *did* have an undisclosed amount of years well above human expectations. *However* she took the pact for the eyes *before* she knew she did, which still makes her pretty cuckoo crazy if you ask me.
I don't know if listing the rules of the Death Note counts as a spoiler, and I'm not sure that the show will go super into it later, but there's one specific rule about someone stealing/killing the owner of a Death Note, and that is more likely the reason why Misa gets the Death Note rather than it being a gift so to say.
Misa’s definitely my favorite character, mainly because she’s so much smarter than people give her credit for. She’s just competing with two FREAK geniuses XD
I think she's going to hold her own for sure!!
Fantastic reaction. This is for: my friend Alan who needs to be told to dance but in a way only he’s understand… Al-Go-Rhythm
You said earlier you had three degrees in literature (which is AMAZING btw) which is probably why you're so smart, I'm genuinely surprised at some of the things you pick up but it's really cool.
I wish I could speak with someone like you after I watch a bunch of things. I really like the idea of someone who's just so smart and good at analysis in media. I need to find someone this smart that I can watch stuff with.
Aw thank you so much!! Well at least we have comment sections to talk about things!!
i love watching your reaction videos, keep it going..
Love these Death Note reactions, i hope you get the chance to react to Monster it should be right up your alley.
Cheers!
Every death note fan should watch Monster. My two favorite anime.
It's on my list for sure!!
Monster would be a great addition, I love this show 😍
If I would need to choose a Death Note Character to be friends with, i would definitely pick Rem.
I sympathize wish Misa a lot, and I absolutely adore L.
But Rem deserves all hugs in the world, and Misa should really appreciate Rem more.
I agree! I think I would also pick Rem!
I never understand why Death Note fandom makes only Light as a villain and Misa as just a cutie girl when she is even more reckless killer than Light 😭 what's with Light bad Misa good argument 😭
That is honestly so true. Death Note somehow managed to mask the idea that Misa must have more than just a few loose screws in order to behave the way she does, while performing mass murders.
You keep watching her being adorable and acting childish....and then it hits you 👀.
But that's one of the reasons why I love her character: she's such a wildcard 😆
You're doing the same argument.
I never said Misa was good. She just has a much more relatable motive for her actions than Light. Her trauma influences her behaviour. Light just has a god complex and an ego.
Everyone bashes Misa for doing the exact same as Light with more justifiable means to do so but will never credit her because she's a woman.
misa is my favourite character, will always defend her
While Misa is great, Matsuda is my favorite.
I do also have a soft spot for Matsuda!
@@tjrune3432 hes so random but hes fine ig
@@denjiiiyttyooo244 Personally, I love a chaotic, fun character.
I don't want to give you spoilers but they mention the reason why Misa admires Kira, the relationship between them is not all that great but it is very interesting. You have very good deductions 😁
Question: Where does Misa keep her Death Note?
Answer: "Right next to a huge, steaming bowl of Foreshadowing."☠️
theyre both pretty too so another reason to not suspect them together for other reasons
The note in the middle of the episode basically means you can write the situation for the death of a person and fill in the name later on. Based on what you read you'd have 90 days to fill in the blank? Even if you are not the owner of the deathbook, it kills them if you write it while thinking of their face (which is how Ray Penber unadvertedly killed all his colleages in the train).
The bit of Shinigami lifespan being added to the person, thats wild. Misa could very well live for 1k years for all we know so far LOL damn. So who cares about half of that for the eyes. Ty for the reaction
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I believe Rem gave Gelus’s Death Note to Misa simply because Shinigami don’t really have families and he was in love with her, so she was the closest thing he had to a next of kin
That's very sweet :')