19 Different Ebikes Tested Uphill ~ See Which Ebike Has the most power!

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2022
  • Lectric, Aventon, Wallke, Gforce, Magicycle, Engwe, Heybike, Rattan and more…See which ebikes have the most power out of 19 different Ebikes!
    This video will show which E-bikes have the most power out of these 19 different ebikes and I hope it helps you make an informed decision on which ebike might be right for you if you were on the fence about power differences!
    As you can see tho even the 500w e”E-bikes did well up the hill with just a little bit of pedaling.
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  • @josephvu5649
    @josephvu5649 Рік тому +54

    2:05 Heybike 48v 500w..... Throttle only: ~50%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    2:43 Lectric Lite 48v 300w..... Throttle only: ~60%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    3:22 Engwe C20 Pro 36v 250w..... Throttle only: ~38%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    5:10 Regular bike Lowest gear..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: N/a
    5:55 Cyrusher Commode 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88% Halfway, W/ pedal: Cleared
    6:22 Magicycle Cruiser Pro: 52v 750w..... Throttle only: 100%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    7:10 Magicycle Cruiser: 52v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    8:15 Electric Bike Company Model E (?)..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    8:42 Lectric XPremium 48v 500w (~50% battery)..... Throttle only: ~63%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    9:26 Lectric XPremium 48v 500w (100% battery)..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    10:33 Lectric 2.0 Step-Thru 48v 500w..... Throttle only: ~63%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    11:11 G-force T42 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    11:56 Heybike Explorer 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    12:19 Snapcycle R148v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    12:42 Engwe EP-2 Pro 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~50%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    13:27 Engwe Engine Pro 48v 750w*..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    14:44 Vitilan i7 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared
    15:26 G-force ZM 48v 750w (~50% battery):..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared
    16:22 Walkee H6 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared
    17:32 Rattan LM750 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared
    18:10 Aventon Aventure 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared
    Note: Measured via the lawn striping (/8 @ 12.5% each line), starting past the wood chip trail.
    Results "W/ pedal: Cleared" vary with ease.
    Thanks for these tests dude.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +4

      Wow….Awesome thank you. The only problem I see with that is this was filmed on multiple different days so not sure if the striping is the same in every clip or not. It might be tho.
      Did you see my second hill test video?

    • @josephvu5649
      @josephvu5649 Рік тому

      @@JeremiahMcintosh no I have not

    • @lodwill5116
      @lodwill5116 Рік тому

      What you think about wildeway 32 Ah big battery?? Hope you text. I will subscribe. For the price. Folding bike. 1300 $$ I had buy it 😅

    • @yogiyoda
      @yogiyoda 6 місяців тому

      Was the Engwe EP-2 Pro the 2022 upgraded version?

    • @yogiyoda
      @yogiyoda 6 місяців тому

      @@JeremiahMcintosh - Was the Engwe EP-2 Pro the 2022 upgraded version?

  • @robertcurtis1112
    @robertcurtis1112 Рік тому +11

    Finally an ebike video with simple facts straight to the point giving the brand, model, and specs.

  • @bbollig9288
    @bbollig9288 Рік тому +60

    This is great! Real-world comparison, 19 bikes, 19 minutes. This is what I really like to see!

  • @johnw65
    @johnw65 Рік тому +16

    Thanks Jeremiah for sharing your experiences of interesting ebikes you have found. There are hundreds of brands and models out there. Deciding which one best fits your needs and wallet can be a challenge and your reviews help a lot with our choices!

  • @corykayhoe1033
    @corykayhoe1033 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I have a lot of hill here in Pennsylvania where I live this will help me with choosing my next e-bike keep up the good work.

  • @stoutdog56
    @stoutdog56 Рік тому +5

    Outstanding review with a excellent cross section of eBikes! I appreciate you using bikes with throttles, something I consider an essential feature.

  • @ridebecauseucan1944
    @ridebecauseucan1944 Рік тому +13

    It takes more power to move a heavier bike. Bigger and bigger batteries are heavy, full suspension is heavy, wide tires and rims are heavy. These big fat tire bikes rarely see any off-road but their weight (70+lbs. and more) definitely makes riding them slowly or moving them around the garage way more difficult. I have a Ride1Up Core 5 and even with a 48v 10.4AH battery I can go 30-45 miles and it’s light enough to ride like a regular bike with no power on flats. My friend has a big fat tire bike and I’m amazed at how heavy it feels and forget about riding it without assist.

    • @MarcoACasco
      @MarcoACasco Рік тому

      They are not for weight lifting, they were meant to be ridden, and they sure do their job !!!!

    • @bindingcurve
      @bindingcurve Рік тому +1

      Fun fat tires are cool (not).

  • @MrDnovack
    @MrDnovack Рік тому +2

    Great video. All of your videos are very informative. Thanks.

  • @wts0000
    @wts0000 Місяць тому

    Appreciate your effeort and time used in making this informative video👍🏽

  • @buffalomind6838
    @buffalomind6838 Рік тому +45

    Motors on a bicycle are awesome. Once you experience an ebike you’re going to wonder why you hadn’t purchased one sooner. Your experiment showed the riders weight means a lot, and a little bit of extra motor wattage provides a noticeable amount improvement power as well as strength going up hills.

    • @Mia-kf2ie
      @Mia-kf2ie Рік тому

      cool

    • @Clearanceman2
      @Clearanceman2 Рік тому +1

      It's almost like a motorcycle. Yes of course it's awesome. Motorcycles are awesome. motorize 2 wheels and it kicks butt.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz Рік тому +2

      also means skinnier legs and bigger bellies for those average e-bike riders vs athletic bicyclists , LOL!

    • @jdgoesham5381
      @jdgoesham5381 Рік тому +1

      And it's not just the motor part that makes it extra sick. It's the electric part with automatic full torque on demand that's so sick about ebikes. My nephew was into making gas powered ones with his buddies in his area and this Sept he came up to visit and I let him take my 1400 Watt 52v rear hub ebike for a spin. And now he wants one badly.

    • @Clearanceman2
      @Clearanceman2 Рік тому +4

      @@jdgoesham5381 Drop the hammer on a 600cc sport bike with 120 plus HP and see what you think.

  • @savemankind738
    @savemankind738 Рік тому +6

    Jeremiah you my friend think like a consumer , I was for a long time wishing someone would do this comparison , because on a flat ground we cannot really tell the difference between any ebike . hill climbing is the real world test . Thank you brother

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      That’s the mindset I try to have when making my videos and power is the hardest thing to show in a video. Glad you like it!

  • @MrXcruz91
    @MrXcruz91 Рік тому +2

    Love this video it was very informative keep up the great work thank you.

  • @josephwalters234
    @josephwalters234 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful. I'm shopping around for the best bike for the hills around my area. Thank you so much!

  • @jiriwesley1962
    @jiriwesley1962 Рік тому +8

    Excellent review. This is how the performance of an e-bike should be tested. On the level, they all go well, but not uphill. I like to follow your reviews, they are the best here. Thank you.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      Thank You. I agree but as you can see with a little pedaling they all did well and many of them will be just fine for a lot of people.

  • @briankurtyka308
    @briankurtyka308 Рік тому +8

    I like your more scientific approach to comparing these bikes. Other folks give their opinions which can be interesting, but you showed exactly what I was looking to see. Interesting that a more powerful bike MIGHT also be heavier which could impact its performance. Thank you.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      Thank You and Your welcome. I like to physically show what I’m talking about in my videos. Glad you found it helpful!

  • @apb5866
    @apb5866 Рік тому

    Thanks for the extensive testing. Greatly appreciated.

  • @glowingmonkey9033
    @glowingmonkey9033 10 місяців тому

    What an effort doing the review for all these bike!!! You rock man!

  • @MatthewMoeykens
    @MatthewMoeykens Рік тому +4

    Man, I thought for sure the mid drive would have kicked butt....but no, Im very surprised. Thanks for the video! Great work!

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +3

      Yeah it still did pretty well but a 750 or 1000w Mid-Drive motor would have been way better!

    • @KOrnhOliO1
      @KOrnhOliO1 Рік тому

      Most would!

    • @goldhunter9641
      @goldhunter9641 Рік тому

      The only difference I really have seen in more affordable e-bikes comparing a hub Drive motor to a mid-drive motor is the price tags and I like the Hub motor just as well and especially if writing asphalt roads and not really anything trail riding the Hub mount in my opinion is the way to go if a person doesn't want to spend a lot of money on a good bike

  • @dennispruitt671
    @dennispruitt671 Рік тому +26

    I really appreciate you making these videos. It's very time consuming I'm sure, and I hope you're getting compensated for your time however that works. Without these videos it's pretty much a shot in the dark when picking out an ebike. Thanks again, keep up the good work. - Dennis

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +4

      Thank You Dennis that’s why I love making these videos. The only way I get compensated is if someone uses the link in the description of my videos to purchase a bike then we will receive a small commission.

    • @elsanavarrette3853
      @elsanavarrette3853 9 місяців тому

      Please give pricesif you can

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  9 місяців тому

      There are links in the description where you can see all the current prices of each model in this video.

  • @hakisha1305
    @hakisha1305 5 місяців тому +1

    ngl you testing that non electric bike was one of the best part of this video cause it gave an idea, that how much of a difference can an electric bike make going up hill

  • @kenwatts3848
    @kenwatts3848 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for doing this!! Excellent work.

  • @EuropaWill
    @EuropaWill Рік тому +3

    Great video! I would love to see the Heybike Cityscape, Ranger, and Mars all make attempts to see where they all fare. It seems many of the fat tire bikes are not able to accelerate up to speed quickly enough on your short straight away in the grass due to all that additional rolling resistance. That's why I suspect the thinner tire Cityscape may punch above its weight in terms of its 350w motor since it'll have less rolling resistance. Looking forward to seeing that!

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому

      This cityscape is significantly less powerfull And would not do nowhere near as well as any of these bikes. The Heybike Mars and Ranger Or about the same as far as power.

    • @EuropaWill
      @EuropaWill Рік тому

      @@JeremiahMcintosh I'd still love to see it!

  • @Sams_Uncle
    @Sams_Uncle Рік тому +1

    Marvelous! Thank you for sharing your hard work!

  • @jh338117
    @jh338117 Рік тому +2

    Awsome review Jeremiah thanks for all your hard work....

  • @myadventureoutdoors
    @myadventureoutdoors Рік тому +3

    I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. A lot! What it tells me that most 500W - 750W e-bikes are virtually the same. Not a lot of difference. Yes, there are style differences, etc but when it boils down to getting you over that hill throttle only, they all perform mostly identical. I have the original Lectric 1.0. Been a fantastic worry free bike. I'm kinda looking for my next bike. However, your video has just told me all these new bikes are not really going to outperform what I have to any great degree. Personally, I would be looking for a substantial improvement. You have helped me now to look in a new direction whatever that may be. I'm guessing the torque of all these motors are similar. You helped educate me further. Thanks very much.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому

      Make sure you check out my newest Hill test video with 26 bikes and you may think differently. Let me know what you think if you watch it.

    • @mrd6093
      @mrd6093 5 місяців тому

      I THINK PERSONALLY THESE BIKES LIKE THE BAKCOU SCOUT THOSE BACKCOUNTRY BIKES ARE PROBABLY WORTH LOOKING INTO . I LIKE THE SCOUT PERSONALLY.

  • @thedanyesful
    @thedanyesful Рік тому +2

    Great video! I liked the choice of the grass hill as I think that really gives a good worst-case scenario. I thought the comparison with the normal bicycle was really great too.
    I feel like a lot of these ebikes are going to suffer from lack of parts availability as they age. I could be wrong but I didn't see any that seemed to have the standard 26" rims used for decades in the most common bikes such as low-end mountain bikes and touring bikes. Even the ones you showed with the 20" rims (same diameter as BMX) seem to have a wider tire so I wonder whether the rims are standard at all.
    Also some of those e-bikes just look massive in terms of weight. Imagine having to carry one of those up the stairs/overpass to get to the other side of the train station to catch your train!

    • @biffmalibu3733
      @biffmalibu3733 Рік тому +1

      I think they are becoming so common and popular like the Shimano 7 speeds that available parts shouldn't be an issue. Chinese manufacturers will produce replacement products as long as the demand is there.

  • @JB-gz5yg
    @JB-gz5yg Рік тому +2

    Thanks for putting this together! Great video!

  • @sarahblue5112
    @sarahblue5112 Рік тому +1

    This is exactly what I needed to know, thank you so much. 👍🏻

  • @kenreiner259
    @kenreiner259 Рік тому +8

    Wish you would have tested the Lectric XP as well. Would have been nice to see how it did against the other two Lectrics you tested.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +4

      It’s pretty much the same power as the 2.0 that’s why I didn’t include it but maybe I’ll include it in the next one.

    • @bobsibert1968
      @bobsibert1968 10 місяців тому

      Lectrics have crap for batteries

  • @raypabs5374
    @raypabs5374 Рік тому +12

    Outstanding review! The motor torque or power of an electric bike is one of my most important factors, along with price when buying an ebike. This video helps a lot. I do wish that Ariel Rider would send to you their Kepler ebike for testing because I would like to see it go head to head against the Magic cycle.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +4

      I agree that would be a good test. Honestly I’ve been dying to review their grizzly lol.

    • @geemy9675
      @geemy9675 Рік тому

      hub vs mid drive matters even more than the torque for climbing, mid drives climb efficiently and without overheating but they're less affordable

    • @johnw65
      @johnw65 Рік тому

      @@geemy9675 They also eat chains and sprockets, ie, more maintenance... My $849 T42 (with Jeremiah's discount) is state of the art, Hyd Disc Brakes, 80nm torque, bad to the bone for a starter bike!

    • @KOrnhOliO1
      @KOrnhOliO1 Рік тому

      @@geemy9675 EXACTLY! But, a Bafang BBS02 full kit will kick ANY non mid drive ebike under $3000 - $4000! And, you can buying them with a 14ah battery with name brand cells, for under $600 complete and shipped! (bigger batteries available, of course)
      IT WILL BLOW YOU MIND! And, destroy any of these ebikes he tested. It won't even be close.... :)

    • @geemy9675
      @geemy9675 Рік тому

      @@KOrnhOliO1 mid drive will win steep climbs but you re comparing diy bike which is not for everyone with stock.
      there are also many ways in which one bike can be "better" than another. price, value, maintenance, battery integration, range, ease of use, speed... mid drive has downsides too

  • @Tweetogreggieb59
    @Tweetogreggieb59 9 місяців тому +1

    Two thumbs up 👍👍A great video for reviewing multiple e bike brands. Content worthy of your time and consideration.✌😎

  • @stephenreese5921
    @stephenreese5921 Рік тому

    Always looking for a good comparison of Ebikes. Thanks, Jeremiah!

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому

      Thank you! Make sure you check out my second hill test video because it’s a little bit different!

  • @carlwellman3623
    @carlwellman3623 Рік тому +8

    Nice video and comparisons! I changed out my XP 2.0 sprocket to a 11-34t and that made a big difference on the high speed and low speed for hill climbing, $31 from Amazon and bike shop charged $15 labor, well worth it!

    • @patc1309
      @patc1309 Рік тому +2

      What's an 11-34t mean? I'm new to this

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      I agree it’s definitely worth the upgrade.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +5

      It’s the freewheel that goes on the back hub. I actually made a video about this on my old Lectric bike make sure you check it out.

    • @lude3645
      @lude3645 Рік тому +1

      @@JeremiahMcintosh Do you still have that bike Jeremiah? Also do you think that would have made that hill with tha upgrade?

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      Yes I still have the original lectric bike and no it would’ve not made it up the hill without pedaling. The freewheels not gonna make a difference on motor power but it will make a difference on how easy it is to help pedal. It would’ve went up just as easy as the 2.0 pedaling

  • @jeffmckinnon5842
    @jeffmckinnon5842 Рік тому +3

    I appreciate the work you put into this video.
    It is becoming painfully obvious to me that I might have to build my own, second E-Bike as none of these bikes really did much better than my Walmart E-bike would have done. Putting those drive systems on a 20-pound super-cycle would likely fly up that hill. I don't want to do a build, but I also do not want to spend three thousand dollars for a bike.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +3

      I can disagree with that to some extent but if you have the perfect bike already and was thinking about throwing a mid drive on it then yes you are correct that’s probably your best bet.
      If you don’t already have a bike that you’re happy with, Depending on the style of bike you’re looking for there are some great options out there for around $1000. for example the GeForce T 42 was recently $800 after the coupon code which is crazy cheap in my opinion.
      There’s a link in the description of my video to it but not sure if the coupon is still available or not.

    • @KOrnhOliO1
      @KOrnhOliO1 Рік тому

      Get a Bafang BBS02 full conversion kit. If you already have a bike you like - easily convert it to an ebike...for under $600! Aliexpress has them with a 14ah, name brand cells battery for about $575 shipped with everything, including the tools to do the conversion. Amazon has them for more money too. Anyone can do it!
      There are a bunch of step by step videos on UA-cam. That and any bike you choose, will destroy any of these bikes he tested....and it won't even be close! Seriously! Check it out...

  • @stewartabel
    @stewartabel Рік тому +1

    This is a really good comparison in real world conditions. Kudos to you sir!

  • @mikepi660
    @mikepi660 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for your time and video,,, loved it,,

  • @sshultz8121
    @sshultz8121 Рік тому +4

    Your review on the Vitilan i7 sold me on the features that were included. Plus, I got a great price with your discount along with the manufactures discount. But this video of different bikes was confirmation for me that I made the right choice. I wasn’t totally in need of the top of the line power, but that was an added bonus seeing the power the Vitilan i7 has, along with all the other features that I did want.

    • @lr8621
      @lr8621 Рік тому +3

      I have the Vitalan v3 and it seems powerful enough.amazing ride.

    • @popeye7815
      @popeye7815 Рік тому +2

      I have a V3 no issues with going up 30 Degree hills here in Pa...Great Bike!
      Their tech support is excellent 👍

  • @seniorsouthwick976
    @seniorsouthwick976 Рік тому +7

    Given all the variables and the fact that you chose a grassy hill, I can’t see the value of this comparison. All bikes should have been charged fully and unused prior to test. A paved incline would have helped level the traction disparities also. Maybe having your son time a fixed distance in the test climb/run would bring additional value. And then, as another poster mentioned, a final chart with the results by bike design, classification & weight.
    For those who are considering a folding bike for transport, know that some models have gotten to the point where the weight and bulk when folded are pretty difficult to lift and load into an SUV. I bought the Lectric XP Premium, which has 2 batteries and a claimed range of 100 miles, and as a retiree at 5-11 and 225, I find it almost impossible to lift and load alone when it is folded. Although the 80 lb. weight may seem manageable to many, when it is folded, it just becomes a very big bulky contraption with no convenient lift points when lifting alone. Looking back, maybe should have just bought a lighter weight full size to have the increased stability, comfort, and efficiencies that come with larger wheel diameters and traditional frame designs. Most of these fold-ups are using very thick heavy metal construction to regain the rigidity lost in a fold-up design. And lastly, most of the popular UA-cam reviews are compromised by kick-backs so after narrowing down your preference, find a dealer or someone who owns the model and check it out in person. Kind of embarrassing to have a fold-up that needs to be trailered or racked.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +3

      All the batteries were fully charged except for the Magicycle which I mentioned but didn’t matter because it had the most power anyway. And you make some good points that’s why I mentioned in the beginning of the video not to base your decision fully off this video alone and that there are many other factors you should consider before buying an electric bike. Thanks for your input that was one thing I was going to mention in my future video I talked about.
      Cheers.

    • @MrBothandNether
      @MrBothandNether Рік тому

      I remove the batteries before I lift something like that.
      I am getting the dualbattery Wallke and pulling the batteries shaves almost 20Lbs off of the lift weight

  • @user--PM
    @user--PM Рік тому

    nice comparison video of the bikes that you have. thanks for sharing this.

  • @sumtingwong5451
    @sumtingwong5451 10 місяців тому

    Best ever ebiks comparison. I got it. Thank you for your efforts.

  • @Jingles9071
    @Jingles9071 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video! Time stamps for each bike would’ve been great 😅

  • @ThisViddy
    @ThisViddy Рік тому +3

    I currently own two eBikes a Biktrix Juggernaut HD with a 1000watt mid-drive. I like this one for the exercise and I have yet to see a hill it won't handle. My other one is a Juiced RipRacer with a 750 rear hub drive, not really for exercise but great for running around town in a hurry.

  • @davidbaker4585
    @davidbaker4585 Рік тому

    Best review I've yet seen!!

  • @whiteduck3140
    @whiteduck3140 Рік тому +2

    Jeremiah, quick ride to the top in more ways than one. Congratulations

  • @nateethington76
    @nateethington76 Рік тому +6

    Good video. Man, I was really considering the Engwe EP-2 because the price with an additional battery is really good. $1100 with 2 13ah batteries is just a really good deal. But I went with the Lectric bike since I live in Phoenix and can go down and test ride all of them. It's nice knowing it isn't using so much electricity since while camping it will be draining my solar setup and has roughly the same amount of power as the Engwe. I went with he xp 3 cause it was a better deal, but man was the light fun to ride. Carried me around no problem just not having any gears to worry about just made it seem so much fun to ride. I would have bought it, but once you factor in buying the stuff it doesn't come with, it's not cheaper than the bigger bikes.

  • @DesuVR
    @DesuVR Рік тому +10

    Your testing really shows that not all motors are made equal. I was especially impressed with the Vitalin with how much that bike costs. The Lectrics are also very well made motors and their 500W motors seem to be almost as good as some 750W bikes. The XP 2.0 (500W) can really rip after some tweaks to the settings! I'm ~140lbs, I thought I'd eventually want more power after getting my XP 2.0 but it's actually plenty of power for me! =)

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +5

      I agree it has plenty of power for a 500 watt bike and outperforms most 500 W bikes. The electrics are you going to be excellent for most people and most people will not be going up hills like this LOL. The higher wattage bikes are nice though for maintaining a faster speed when traveling and you hit a hill the lectric will do the hill just at a slower pace.

    • @EBikeBuilder_
      @EBikeBuilder_ Рік тому +5

      another factor is the controller amperage may vary across bikes, leading to different performance with similar if not identical motors. It's the phase amps that influence hub motor torque for a test like this. Some manufacturers give the 750W motor a 25amp controller and they will peak at 1300 watts, and then it's a completely different beast. The wheel size will have a big impact as well, those 26" wheels are at a disadvantage climbing.

    • @colinriches1519
      @colinriches1519 Рік тому +1

      The wattage of the motor isn't a good indicator of the power of the system. Multiply your voltage by how many amps the controller pulls to find the wattage going through the motor. At best, brushless hub motors work at about 90% efficiency.
      To find your power, multiply volts by amps and then the answer multiply by 0.9 to accommodate efficiency losses. That will tell you the real power of the bike.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +5

      That’s not always true because even if some bikes have a larger controller the bikes can be programmed from the manufacture at a lower amp output. I have seen this on a few different bikes where adjusting that amperage in the settings doesn’t make a difference because they have it set to a specific output and that’s why I like doing these tests.

    • @johnw65
      @johnw65 Рік тому +4

      @@JeremiahMcintosh Do you think it's possible that manufacturers turn down the settings in order to comply with local laws in various countries? I easily found the info to 'tweak' the T42 you helped me get. And pedaling like crazy, I can tackle some pretty significant hills at 20mph, with the cruise taking over on the downhill sides, I often have to brake a little for speed limits...

  • @oz41R
    @oz41R Рік тому

    Great editing! Easy to follow even with 19 bikes!

  • @pintorodolfo2375
    @pintorodolfo2375 Рік тому +1

    I have also bought a similar electric bike, the EUY NXB. My son also likes it very much. He always rides it out to play. Electric bikes really bring us a lot of conveniences.

  • @RideOp74
    @RideOp74 Рік тому +4

    I figured the EP2 Pro wouldn't fare too well because I saw your full review, but it takes me up the more sloping hills around my house just fine, and I'm well over 200 lbs. Great review, really enjoyed the comparison!

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      It’s not bad but it’s more comparable to my 500w bikes.

    • @4saken404
      @4saken404 Рік тому

      That thing was so underpowered it was noticeable even before it hit the slope. Took off from a stop very very slowly.

    • @RomanRoman-xi3dv
      @RomanRoman-xi3dv Рік тому

      @@JeremiahMcintosh pleasw try to test Ariel rider bikes

    • @RomanRoman-xi3dv
      @RomanRoman-xi3dv Рік тому

      @@JeremiahMcintosh hi, also if you could test dual motor fat bikes at same hill to see how they climb

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +1

      Yes I would love to but don’t currently have any dual motor bikes possibly in the future tho!

  • @jstar1000
    @jstar1000 Рік тому +3

    They all seem comparable based on motor watts and weight. I built a mid drive ebike with a kit and put it on a 26inch mt bike with disc brakes and its a freaking beast. It would climb that hill like a goat with no pedaling. I have a heybike with 500 watt motor and a BPM Imports 750 watt, both rear hub motors and they are both cool bikes but the mid drive kicks butt on both of them. The 750 wat rear hub kicks butt on the 500 watt bike as expected. You get what you pay for and I have to add getting a more expensive bike is probably worth it. They skimp on important things like the quality of the battery and its components, look at battery ebike fire videos on youtube then decide if you want that cheap ass ebike. I'll pass.

    • @bindingcurve
      @bindingcurve Рік тому

      Mid drive e-bike wits are a wiring mess. 90% of people do not want to ride a science experiment. Yes I know there are "good" but the cost of a mid drive kit added to a "good" bike, you may as well buy new instead of tinkering.

    • @jstar1000
      @jstar1000 Рік тому

      @@bindingcurve I tucked mine nicely but your not entirely wrong but a comparable new ebike can cost twice as much or more if you already have a bike you love then the kits are great plus you can move everything to a different bike if you want. To each there own.

    • @bindingcurve
      @bindingcurve Рік тому

      @@jstar1000Most of the home build bikes are based sub $500 bikes with $1500 kits on them. But no bike manufactured is going to do that. SO when you say "comparable" your not being truthful. If they are going to build a Mountain E-bike, it will be based on a $2500 full suspension bike. Well, then get a Luna X2 for $4200. If they are going to build a commuter a Ride one up Prodigy for $2300.
      "cheep" hub drives, the Core 5. Really cheep, the Hypers from Walmart. And I get it, cheep bikes can do a lot of what a "expensive" bike can do, My Axum was $230, and rides a lot like my $1000 Cannondale Trail. But they are NOT the same bike, not even close. Now if someone would provide good frames, I may be interested in build my own, but I think you will find there is not much of a savings.

    • @jstar1000
      @jstar1000 Рік тому

      @@bindingcurve I put a $1000 750 watt bafang kit on my Gary Fischer disc brakes bike and it's pretty awesome. I can't buy anything prebuilt for $1000 and get a middrive 750 watt set up like mine.

    • @bindingcurve
      @bindingcurve Рік тому

      @@jstar1000 How much was the bike when it was NEW in 2022 dollars? Again, your fooling yourself into thinking its a $1000 bike

  • @ericechipman1183
    @ericechipman1183 Рік тому +2

    This was a very good video !!!thank you. It is pretty awesome to see which bikes climb better than others on such a steep hill.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому

      Thank You

    • @ericechipman1183
      @ericechipman1183 Рік тому

      @@JeremiahMcintosh do you not have the Tesco 1000 watt bike anymore? I would have liked to seen it climb this hill

  • @Nikki-ks6wi
    @Nikki-ks6wi Рік тому

    You saved me so much time and money thank you!

  • @talldude5841
    @talldude5841 Рік тому +2

    Love all your reviews Jeremiah. Spot on. Keep up the great work, and I am loving my new XP 2.0. It is better than my near 3 year old XP. Does a newer battery pack more punch? Seems so.

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому

      It could depending how much degradation your old battery has.

  • @merrylloupendon5449
    @merrylloupendon5449 Рік тому

    Wow this is must to watch! Thanks for video

  • @BigPapaCycles
    @BigPapaCycles 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video you just helped me out!

  • @Susan-ic5ri
    @Susan-ic5ri 10 місяців тому

    Fabulous article and links!

  • @GlenB1963
    @GlenB1963 Рік тому

    Thank you. Great info. I know more what to look for now.

  • @GT4JB
    @GT4JB 11 місяців тому

    awesome educ video. would love to see a all terrain e baike video. Especially now that mid drive is the hot new thing. Thx for great video

  • @dbuilder6
    @dbuilder6 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video!

  • @eladnudd1895
    @eladnudd1895 Рік тому

    This is how it's should be done, very informative. thank you .

  • @BirdMom023
    @BirdMom023 2 місяці тому

    I have the Electric 2.0 ST, and a big uphill climb to a stop sign near my home. Thanks so much for showing a new rider this 'how-to.'

  • @donsturgiss7833
    @donsturgiss7833 Рік тому

    Good test! Best I have seen demo'g and comparing multiple bikes for hill climb power.

  • @TWiumph
    @TWiumph Рік тому +1

    Really helpful for someone like myself that lives in a very hilly area, north Georgia mountains. (Yes we have mountains in Georgia!)

  • @sckad3526
    @sckad3526 Рік тому

    Thank you for the reviews

  • @fredferrara4964
    @fredferrara4964 Рік тому

    Thanks for the quick response. Love the Kommoda also, it was my 1st choice after I watched your review. Then I saw the Ovia with the larger battery & higher cranks.. I'll keep looking for your review.
    Best regards; Fred

  • @4kbuffalowalkride722
    @4kbuffalowalkride722 Рік тому +1

    I love it man! Great place to test in case you need a soft landing! Keep up the great job and thanks!

  • @martymccabe332
    @martymccabe332 Рік тому

    Very helpful to me. Thanks!

  • @mantisthechosen
    @mantisthechosen Рік тому

    Loved this video, trying to decide on an ebike and i just moved to a house on the hill LOL but its at a 80 degree angle and this helped alot

  • @ReviewsandTech
    @ReviewsandTech 10 місяців тому

    Wow, nice Ebikes and a great comparison in the real world, although I am glad my 400 watt 14" can make it up hill somewhat as I am getting ready to drop that review soon. Thanks for your hard work man.

  • @lindsaydempsey5683
    @lindsaydempsey5683 Місяць тому

    Very helpful, thank you

  • @michigancarols.6385
    @michigancarols.6385 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this video, new sub!

  • @bradleysuarez3747
    @bradleysuarez3747 Рік тому

    Thanks for the review ❤

  • @ThrivingCountry
    @ThrivingCountry 8 місяців тому

    This was very helpful to me. As a big guy at around 270 lbs., this video told me I better stick with my side by side for dear hunting in TN. Even at your weight it couldn’t pull the hills without help.

  • @chrisneuhaus7188
    @chrisneuhaus7188 6 місяців тому

    Nice video, well presented. Thanks.

  • @SKYGUY1
    @SKYGUY1 11 місяців тому

    Thank you sir. While mostly 'anecdotal', due to the full vss partial charge condition, the test demos seemed to reveal what to expect from each bike. Thumb up entered!

  • @gr5603
    @gr5603 Рік тому +2

    The motor on the Rattan 750 is extremely powerful. It takes me up very steep hills carrying heavy0 groceries with ease.

  • @diamonddbw
    @diamonddbw Рік тому

    Thanks. Looks like you had a good workout.

  • @whitenas
    @whitenas Рік тому

    Thank you very much for all your work. This is exactly what I was looking for. Changed my mind again lol

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому

      Watch a few more of my videos and you’ll probably change it three more times lol 😂

  • @cparker7431
    @cparker7431 Рік тому

    This was a fantastic video!!! I saw the baskets on Amazon for sale too for the Rattan.

  • @TheGrateful55
    @TheGrateful55 Рік тому

    Thanks, its nice to see the comparisons on biles when battery is 50% and 100% because one you leave home, the battery is no longer 100%. Appreiate all the work to help us!

  • @user-rv3vk4ov9q
    @user-rv3vk4ov9q Рік тому +1

    Very well put video

  • @jimmytaaffe
    @jimmytaaffe Рік тому +2

    love these real world reviews!

  • @jeffgustafson579
    @jeffgustafson579 Рік тому

    Nice detailed video!

  • @jakereal3604
    @jakereal3604 Рік тому +2

    I have a 500w 36v Ebike and it seems to pull
    Me along fine! I even went to a park with steep trails.YES I had to pedal and used max assist 5 but it got me up everything I needed to go up! But I’m 140lbs so guessing that helps a lot lol

  • @Michaelaz62
    @Michaelaz62 Рік тому

    Thank you for this.

  • @JohnFleshman
    @JohnFleshman Рік тому +1

    I have the Aventure and I am very pleased with your testing.

  • @thomasnappo6309
    @thomasnappo6309 10 місяців тому

    Great to see some power up hill...RANGE and SPEED is what most people are looking for..Well Done😊

  • @chrisneuhaus7188
    @chrisneuhaus7188 6 місяців тому

    It was helpful to see how well each bike did in this type scenario. We'll be using our new ebikes to casually tour while we are traveling the country in our RV. We are adventure riders by any means, but occasionally there can be a steep grade on an otherwise easy trail that will require plenty of power to make the grade. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ronniearnold10
    @ronniearnold10 Рік тому

    Pretty cool video! Thanks for these, you rock.

  • @sharizeck9318
    @sharizeck9318 Рік тому

    Very helpful video. Thanks!

  • @MongoGamer
    @MongoGamer Рік тому

    Thank you for this vid, I'm a large 300lb guy planning on doing some nomadic adventures and I want to make an e bike camper. So with all that weight, I need load capacity and torque so pretty much power. Thank you

  • @Altema22
    @Altema22 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video, and thanks for all your hard work! The same starting point and similar line was good, and think the only thing I'd add is to place a measuring reel on the grass so you could document how many feet the bike went. I like that the test was on grass, as that's what most hills I climb are made of. The Lectric XPremium was disappointing, but people often don't realize that the torque of a mid drive is measured at the unit output shaft. What you actually get at the rear wheel is less. What percent grade is that hill, by the way?

    • @JeremiahMcintosh
      @JeremiahMcintosh  Рік тому +2

      Thank you I haven’t really measured the hill yet I might include that in my next hill test video.

  • @scottallen3465
    @scottallen3465 10 місяців тому

    Great impartial reviews.

  • @yesnik7212
    @yesnik7212 10 місяців тому

    Great video! What app are you using on your phone?

  • @samss356
    @samss356 Рік тому

    Great review

  • @bertkelly7650
    @bertkelly7650 Рік тому +1

    That 250 watt did as good as the 300 and 500 watt lectrics on just throttle. Gives my Ancheer 350 watt bike some hope. Thanks so much for the review!

    • @RideOp74
      @RideOp74 Рік тому +1

      If you like the bike you have and it works for you that's all that matters.

  • @donaldclark4350
    @donaldclark4350 Рік тому

    Wow I started watching you back a few years with your first electric bike and for some reason your channel hasn’t been coming up positive today and I resubscribe and wow what a ride bikes to choose from now

  • @lenl2514
    @lenl2514 9 місяців тому

    Well done comparison

  • @andreavignes3153
    @andreavignes3153 Рік тому +1

    THANK U FOR PUTTING YOUR SON ON BIKE!!!!! I am only 5’ and it showed me without a doubt that i could ride the bike he was on. Handlebar each etc. THANK U!!!!!! GREAT VIDEO!!

  • @stevelouie1907
    @stevelouie1907 Рік тому +1

    Great and fair reviews of all these electric bikes. I'm undecided between Aniioki A7 Pro and Wallke H6. Likely H6 has more power and bigger/larger but I like the A7 Pro style. What's opinion? Thanks