maybe people like me who CAN'T FUCKING FIND HIM. I met with wrex first and have spent now 2 hours looking for that mofo... still can't fucking find him!
+vmah0111 Shepard, Garrus, and Tali ME1; Shepard, Garrus, and Miranda ME2, with Tali romance; Shepard, Garrus, and Tali ME3, continue romance. That's my default play.
AvenjaNinja , mines pretty much the same except i play renegade female and paragon male. the citadel expansion should have been the actual ending, and been able to play it through like an epilogue.... that or a house being built on a certain homeworld, i hear its a buyers market there.
@@molag-ballordofdomination2065 If they meant for Shepard to always be a dude, there would be no gender choice. Obviously there is a choice...with good reason. =P
***** But actually though, I can see where you are coming from. Its just when I play mass effect, regarding my squad I have an "any addition is a good addition" mentality, so I just recruited everyone, and I thought most others were like that.
***** Incompetent how? He was completely blocked from doing a proper job. It is odd that Shepard suddenly signs him on permanently, but he is in your corner. On that note, I was more surprised to see Wrex on the Normandy. He was just working with Shepard to kill Fist, yet with no further exposition, he stays on. He later says he joined up to fight for a cause, but that was never explained when it happened.
+weirdcreature83 I have to say that I played without knowing anything about all the characters, but Garrus seemed such a good kid(and I'm using KID because he seemed very young, energetic and adorable... also a little stupid, the kind of stupidity you have with immaturity), I actually tought at him as a sort of "little brother" character, and I can't rexist to that kind of character... so I recruit him noticing that he really seem to be rethinking what he did(putting the doctor in danger) and wanted to fight back whoever was bad, without thinking about the race... you know how it is when you want to show someone a different sight of what he has seen till that moment? That's one of the motive why I love how Garrus and Wrex talk to each other... like Garrus trying to understand bettere krogans, that till that moment for him were just a "savage races that was better to keep under control", and Wrex that act like some kind of granfather with him telling him to stay hidden or be brave enough to embrace the truth, or calling him "kid" anythime Garrus is being too immature XDI don't know, maybe I just had a good feeling about him... but I think that one thing you must not forget about roleplay is that you also have to feel your gut... is not only "rationally he is a Turian, a race that hates humans, and seem pretty unable to thinks of his surronding", is also "this kid seem very energetic and full of desire to change the world"... you have to listen to Garrus, and notice how much he want to be like you, and help others... so the roleplay is not a perfect explanation... otherwise, your NOT relplaying, you are "analizing" the game and thinking only rationally XD I heard of a lot of people who tought Garrus was annoying or useless during ME1, but whoever was roleplaying tended to recruit him because of how powerful his introduction was XD
Alice 'Rikky' Garrus is very much as you describe him in ME1. What I like about Garrus is that he is one of the few characters that really get "arcs" and change across the series. Unfortunately, Shepard is not one of those people.
Saving Mordin is one of the most evil things to do. For one, you aren't saving him. You consign him to a fate where he signed the death warrant of a species and you stop him from doing what he can to attone. For two, you actively ensure the extinction of a species to prevent the death of someone who doesn't need saving.
wtflol3657 how anyone can beat the game without him is my biggest question. The mission on Virmire removes your best dps character at one point. There is no way completing that mission would be possible without Garrus.
The fact that there’s such little change in dialogue for this particular scenario is probably a sign that even BioWare thought, “Okay, there’s no way there’s some moron out there stupid enough to NOT recruit Garrus, but let’s include this one small line just for good measure...”
@@Andrew_Waples If I remember correctly, Shepard never says Garrus’ full name upon meeting him if you recruit him in the first game. In this case, he was never recruited, so Shepard doesn’t know him as well and therefore wouldn’t address him simply as “Garrus.” Beyond that, though, there really aren’t any other changes in the dialogue.
There's no way in hell Shepard would remember his name. She should have said something like, "Hey I remember you, what was your name again? If you don't recruit him in ME1 that means you only talked to him for a couple minutes. Nothing worth remembering.
N7ShadowSR2 Garurs is so awesome, his appearance implants his name into the minds of those he speaks to, even only for a moment. (Wow that didn't sound creepy at all...)
+UltimaKeyMaster Yea he's like that side detective/figurant that calls your attention from the moment you see him on screen. He should have been approved for spectre training.
I remember when I was going to recruit Archangel on my first playthrough. I was thinking "Sniper eh? Must be a replacement for Garrus." Imagine my surprise when I saw the visor.
OMG yes. I was like : "I don't want this stupid Archangel, I want Garrus!" Bioware played me like a fool, and it was the happiest moment of my life (this and my wedding, lol)
@@adrianapignolo My happiest moment was in 3 when you find out that Grunt DIDN'T actually die when you choose to save the queen a second time. Holy shit, Bioware got me with that music.
***** I resolved to do a renegade run through got to that moment where you shoot mordin and I couldn't do it. Turned into a most loaded emotional moment in ME history and that last smile he gives you when you don't shoot *Burst into tears*
in Mass effect 3 in every mission where i didnt have to take one perticular squad member, id take Liara and Garrus, i was a Infiltrator, garrus carried a Assult rifle and liara backed with BIotics, prefect team
ProdigyPlaysYT Garrus is calm, uses sniper and is an engineer. His opposite is a biotic using a shotgun and being the explosive personality. Wrex in ME1 and Jack from ME2 fits perfectly. And I'm the soldier, the middle-ground, who listen to inputs from both and take my decisions accordingly. The chemestry between Wrex and Garrus was perfect, I miss him... although Jack is the best biotic in the game. I haven't played ME3, so I don't who will I choose to be the third member when the time comes.
+Y Chromosome 99 Aeh your Dialog is intrsting you two but you are actually mistaken something^^ the Moment where Shepard is looking trough the Sniper Rifles visor is when they go there and garrus says "lets look for what they are up to".... And thats actually at the end of the Video... so the Scene comes after that =)
Before I did this mission, my sis wouldn't shut up about Garrus "Space Bae" Vakarian. I didn't really get why everyone obsessed over him. Then he took a rocket to the face and laid there like an eviscerated turian puppy and he got me.
I bet maybe five people have seen this slightly altered scene in their own playthrough, lol. One does not simply not recruit one of the best BioWare characters ever made.
The game should be over if you didn't hire Garrus in ME1. Such a criminal act!!! Even if you don't use him, bring him along for the sole reason he is Garrus.
There's....no real indication that Shepard never recruited Garrus and got to know him before hand. I would have expected some lines along the lines of "You know who I am, but who are you?" since Shepard's been dead for two years and would have no reason to remember a random C-Sec agent she met on the Citadel right after becoming a Specter
Yeah, Garrus is one of my favourite characters in this game, throughout the games you see his morality grow and you can influence this growth down a renegade path or paragon path, you can't do this with any other character and you get to see him grow, so it offers an extra layer of realism to his character... Whoever wrote his character did a splendid job.
You know, I played this game when it first came out and I never thought about what would happen if I didn't recruit someone from the first part, this is interesting
Only time I'll use Zaeed, unless I go straight for Mordin. You can get rid of Jacob in the fastest time possible if you download him, which I presume 99.9999999% of Mass Effect players do as soon as possible, no one likes Jacob, right?
I never used Jacob, ever. Talk about a waste of space, and he always has the most idiotic comments. Plus, he's such a pantywaste, all he ever does is whine. Ugh.
Juliette Burgon Hm, you may be right. Still, I think the bottom line is- Ash is stupid and shortsighted, and Jacob can see the big picture, that's why he was with alliance and cerberus. For the same reasons Shepard was. I enjoyed more talking to him in then talking to Ash... All she ever had to say was either alliance duty or her familly (even her familly was boring, lol).
I just noticed a hole in Mass effect 2: What if one of the Mercs decided to shoot at Garrus through his window? While they are talking. "It works both ways" Right?
It wouldn't because they step further into the room away from the windows when they're talking. The mercs wouldn't have an angle on them during the conversation. And even then, there were no mercs available for a considerable portion of the conversation. The entirety of the freelancer wave had already been annihilated by Garrus and Shepard's team. The three established merc outfits hadn't mobilized yet. "It works both ways" is in direct referral to the fact that there was, at the time, only one way in and one way out.
Thinking Gamers Besides, the merc bands weren't hiring snipers, that would would have actually cost money. They were just promising to pay any moron with a gun that was willing buy them time. They weren't actually hiring anyone with any real skills. Even the mercs you speak to on the way in mention it's about time they got someone who actually knew what they were doing.
That's not a hole - just a missed opportunity. The enemies in a game don't have to be on top of every opportunity, and these enemies were probably too busy regrouping to go out sniping.
You're misinterpreting this completely. What he means by "It works both ways" is that the bridge is like a bottleneck, forcing the mercs into a narrow firing line as opposed to coming from all angles "Funneling all those witless idiots into scope". But if they try to go out the same way, they'll have the same problem of being put somewhere with nowhere to maneuver, and the mercs can concentrate their fire in a small area making it impassible.
+XadowMonzter Probably is that way because hardly anyone ever would not recruit Garrus in ME1 unless they force themselves to do so just to see what would be different.
I love how he’s still the same Garrus we all know and love. The dialogue and the feel of the scene and the dynamic between him and Shepard are all a bit different but he’s still hardcore. He’s still approachable (as long as you’re not one of his enemies). He’s still grown and developed a bit as a character, while keeping that same sass and spunk. If you didn’t feel like recruiting him before, you can be darn sure you’ll love having him on your ship now.
How can someone not recruit Garrus in Mass Effect 1? Hes too amazing to pass up! Even though hes not a romance option in the first game, hes by far the best character on your team, Wrex coming in second. Surprising because those are the two you can miss out on.
These days I only use Zaeed so I can throw him as cannon fodder at the Collector base. Cannot stand that guy... like a spoiled toddler trapped in some old Irishman's body.
In mass effect one i always only used wrex and garrus and in mass effect two i always used garrus and grunt but it all got destroyed when you couldnt get a krogan companion in mass effect 3 but i still use garrus
Aww this saddens me.. iv had ME1&2 for a while but I just got the legendary so I'm doing a full run-through and havnt done the 3rd game yet. I do the same as Garrus, Wrex and Grunt are my 3 favorite characters.
Nice vid! Although, the text with Garrus is hardly different than if you did recruit him in Mass Effect 1. The only thing that I noticed was different was when she said his name. That's the only thing I didn't recognize. Of course, I played the male version of Mass Effect, so it could just be the actor's way she said it in either instance. But yeah....I didn't see a big difference in dialogue.
There aren't too many differences, but it's not just the raw dialogue thats different, it's the tone of voice as well, not drastically different, but noticable on those lines.
Larry Williams The only difference I heard was the name too. I played femshep, and the dialogue was the same. Expect for the way femshep said Garrus' name. In my game, when I recruited him in ME1 she said his name happier and excited to see him again. In this video it sounded like she said his name more confused, as to why he's here. She's not expecting to see him, since it's been a while since she saw him.
There's also part of the cutscene that seems to be missing if you don't recruit Garrus in ME1. You lose some dialog and Garrus doesn't let Shepard look through his scope.
I actually was surprised to see this, because I literally just finished this mission with that team. I don't even know how many times I've done it at this point, but I have never done it with Miranda and Zaeed.
+Damon Fyrian They are quite a combination, with Zaed's passive 50% damage increase and Miranda's passive ability which increases weapon damage even further, with combat oriented Shepard(Soldier, Infiltrator, Vanguard), they are unstoppable.
Nemanja Ilic I can't remember for certain, but my Shepard was either a male Adept or a male Vanguard. I just know it was one of the two biotic classes.
Didn't recruit Garrus??!?! YOU MONSTER! He's such a badass! Hell - I like Garrus more than I like Shepard! I wish they would make a spin-off with him: Mass Effect: Archangel.... Would play the shit outta that game - even if it was a 2D sidescroller.
Thanks, I honestly didn't know there was a way to not recruit Garrus. I doubt I'll ever do that because Garrus is one of my favorite teammates but it was nice to see the alternative route for this game.
Funny how this is showing in my recommended after the remaster is being announced but i recuited Garrus in ME1 and had the exact same dialog as this. Yes i remember from that far back, one of my favorite game series. Almost 100% on all four games
I didn’t even know there was a possibility of not recruiting Garrus In mass effect one, it seems a shame if you didn’t though he’s such a great character.
What's even alternate in this scene? As far as at least this video shows, it plays out exactly the same way with no different dialogue. They act like they know and trust each other even though in 2 years they've literally said less than 10 sentences to each other across two minutes. Shepard wouldn't even remember Garrus by name at this point. He'd have to introduce himself as the C-Sec Officer trying to find evidence of Saren's treason. He'd probably have to mention Doctor Michael to really jog her memory.
You know I’ve seen this scene and the other and never once noticed that there are two different possible scenes here. The first time I played ME2 was on a new Xbox 360 so my ME1 save file wasn’t there. Interesting.
Sand Coffin There are two options. 1. When Anderson first tells you to go meet him, you can simply ignore going to the nursery. 2. Even if you actually go just to save the nurse (and unlock her store), you can decline the offer of him to join you.
Part of why it's amusing when people complain about now having influence over ME3s ending when that was really the case the entire time. Playing again as Renegade Shepard has left me constantly disappointed that either the plot forces you down a certain road or Renegade options result in Shepard/other characters saying the same things.
I got this once because I was curious and was pleasantly surprised to be honest. I know soundtracks can't change but I found it quite funny that there was still that strong fanfare like tune for someone you didn't even recruit in ME1.
Fact that you can play ME1 without Garrus.. like the idea just makes me cringe. I keep thinking about what if some idiot missed recruiting him somehow in first game. AH. Just ..so wrong.
I think while bioware has to prepare for these outcomes bc they never know how it's going to go, it only happens when people are playing in such a way that they're LOOKING for rare dialogue
How does this video even exist, who doesnt recuit Garrus? He is one of the only ones who has your back through the whole story. Straight up homie right there
Does anyone else this sound like the same dialogue as if you did recruit him in ME1? I imported my character from ME1 and I swear this is exactly how my conversation went.
Who the fuck never recruits Garrus???
maybe people like me who CAN'T FUCKING FIND HIM. I met with wrex first and have spent now 2 hours looking for that mofo... still can't fucking find him!
megapanka try the clinic in the wards
there is absolutely no way you can go through the story without getting Vakarian
It's actually possible to refuse Wrex, Garrus, and Tali.
I think the idea was to make being a total xenophobe an option. Though Liara is plot centric.
cloudgirl150 I was about to comment the exact same thing
There's no shepard without vakarian
amen to dat
Hell yea, for sure.
vmah0111 yeah, otherwise there will not be any calibrations.
+vmah0111 Shepard, Garrus, and Tali ME1; Shepard, Garrus, and Miranda ME2, with Tali romance; Shepard, Garrus, and Tali ME3, continue romance. That's my default play.
AvenjaNinja , mines pretty much the same except i play renegade female and paragon male. the citadel expansion should have been the actual ending, and been able to play it through like an epilogue.... that or a house being built on a certain homeworld, i hear its a buyers market there.
You should get an automatic CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE if you don't recruit Garrus
I just wanna poke the like button on this one about 20 million times...lol.
Also if you pick femshep because on the covers of the games and in the trailers Shepard is a dude
@@molag-ballordofdomination2065 If they meant for Shepard to always be a dude, there would be no gender choice. Obviously there is a choice...with good reason. =P
@@roselyon131 same with assassin's Creed odyssey, you can choose the gender but kassandra is the canon one
Same should go for if you never recruited Wrex, Tali, or Liara.
Wait, someone out there DIDN'T recruit Garrus?
***** ....But..Garrus.
***** But actually though, I can see where you are coming from. Its just when I play mass effect, regarding my squad I have an "any addition is a good addition" mentality, so I just recruited everyone, and I thought most others were like that.
***** Incompetent how? He was completely blocked from doing a proper job. It is odd that Shepard suddenly signs him on permanently, but he is in your corner.
On that note, I was more surprised to see Wrex on the Normandy. He was just working with Shepard to kill Fist, yet with no further exposition, he stays on. He later says he joined up to fight for a cause, but that was never explained when it happened.
+weirdcreature83 I have to say that I played without knowing anything about all the characters, but Garrus seemed such a good kid(and I'm using KID because he seemed very young, energetic and adorable... also a little stupid, the kind of stupidity you have with immaturity), I actually tought at him as a sort of "little brother" character, and I can't rexist to that kind of character... so I recruit him noticing that he really seem to be rethinking what he did(putting the doctor in danger) and wanted to fight back whoever was bad, without thinking about the race... you know how it is when you want to show someone a different sight of what he has seen till that moment? That's one of the motive why I love how Garrus and Wrex talk to each other... like Garrus trying to understand bettere krogans, that till that moment for him were just a "savage races that was better to keep under control", and Wrex that act like some kind of granfather with him telling him to stay hidden or be brave enough to embrace the truth, or calling him "kid" anythime Garrus is being too immature XDI don't know, maybe I just had a good feeling about him... but I think that one thing you must not forget about roleplay is that you also have to feel your gut... is not only "rationally he is a Turian, a race that hates humans, and seem pretty unable to thinks of his surronding", is also "this kid seem very energetic and full of desire to change the world"... you have to listen to Garrus, and notice how much he want to be like you, and help others... so the roleplay is not a perfect explanation... otherwise, your NOT relplaying, you are "analizing" the game and thinking only rationally XD
I heard of a lot of people who tought Garrus was annoying or useless during ME1, but whoever was roleplaying tended to recruit him because of how powerful his introduction was XD
Alice 'Rikky'
Garrus is very much as you describe him in ME1. What I like about Garrus is that he is one of the few characters that really get "arcs" and change across the series. Unfortunately, Shepard is not one of those people.
Not recruiting Garrus is almost as bad as killing Wrex.
Almost.
Agreed.
Honestly, I’m going to try to not recruit Wrex so that I can save Mordin and not cure the genophage.
Saving Mordin is one of the most evil things to do. For one, you aren't saving him. You consign him to a fate where he signed the death warrant of a species and you stop him from doing what he can to attone. For two, you actively ensure the extinction of a species to prevent the death of someone who doesn't need saving.
@we smal why? My understanding is that if you just don’t recruit him then everything turns out fine. I don’t want to have to kill him.
"You nailed me good a couple times, by the way."
That's what she said.
That's not until later :)
+Toshimi1043 "We fought a tiebreaker in her bedroom later, I had reach, she had flexibility"
+Jason Hensley Don't forget male shep face (I can't say for fem one).
"That's what she said."
Literally.
"I needed to get you … moooving." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
How could anyone play the first ME game without recruiting the biggest bro in the entire series is beyond me
wtflol3657 how anyone can beat the game without him is my biggest question.
The mission on Virmire removes your best dps character at one point.
There is no way completing that mission would be possible without Garrus.
Spencer Bowden I do fine with Liara and Wrex
Bethany Monges I assume you play tech based builds?
Cause that setup doesn’t have any tec strength.
I played with Tali and Wrex in me1
Well, maybe they didn't play the first ME game.
I mean, that's the only explanation.
The fact that there’s such little change in dialogue for this particular scenario is probably a sign that even BioWare thought, “Okay, there’s no way there’s some moron out there stupid enough to NOT recruit Garrus, but let’s include this one small line just for good measure...”
I still don't what the different line is...
@@Andrew_Waples If I remember correctly, Shepard never says Garrus’ full name upon meeting him if you recruit him in the first game.
In this case, he was never recruited, so Shepard doesn’t know him as well and therefore wouldn’t address him simply as “Garrus.” Beyond that, though, there really aren’t any other changes in the dialogue.
Nope, its just lazy ass BioWare screenwriters
@@YarpenZMorii Did you skip recruiting Garrus Vakarian in your playthrough of Mass Effect 1? if not, SHUT UP.
@@DravicPL why?
There's no way in hell Shepard would remember his name. She should have said something like, "Hey I remember you, what was your name again? If you don't recruit him in ME1 that means you only talked to him for a couple minutes. Nothing worth remembering.
N7ShadowSR2 Lazy script-writers. :P
N7ShadowSR2 Garurs is so awesome, his appearance implants his name into the minds of those he speaks to, even only for a moment. (Wow that didn't sound creepy at all...)
+UltimaKeyMaster Yea he's like that side detective/figurant that calls your attention from the moment you see him on screen. He should have been approved for spectre training.
They just left a line or two out for this situation, instead of recording a special one.
I thought Shepard would be like. "I recognize you... what's a C-SEC officer doing wiping out mercs on Omega?"
I remember when I was going to recruit Archangel on my first playthrough. I was thinking "Sniper eh? Must be a replacement for Garrus." Imagine my surprise when I saw the visor.
OMG yes. I was like
: "I don't want this stupid Archangel, I want Garrus!" Bioware played me like a fool, and it was the happiest moment of my life (this and my wedding, lol)
@@adrianapignolo You must choose one. There can be only one 1st place.
@@adrianapignolo My happiest moment was in 3 when you find out that Grunt DIDN'T actually die when you choose to save the queen a second time.
Holy shit, Bioware got me with that music.
@@cheyennetrumbos Good on you for following him through the Rite.
@@cheyennetrumbos I was fucking devastated for all of 10 seconds and then proceeded to thank those above
what the fu-.... WHO DOESN'T RECRUIT GARRUS?!
Garrus is one of the best! He calibrates the Normandy's guns.
*****
Or somebody willing to take the plunge and make it into videos so *we* don't have to :P
***** I resolved to do a renegade run through got to that moment where you shoot mordin and I couldn't do it. Turned into a most loaded emotional moment in ME history and that last smile he gives you when you don't shoot *Burst into tears*
*reloads Mantis* Anyone wanna go hunt this guy?
Since Garrus is infected wouldn't that kill him too?
I'm not sure if the shooting option comes before or after Mordin rambles and cures Garrus
is anyone else like me, caring mostly about garrus and having him on my squad almost every mission? casue if you are then you are awesome
Well in every mass effect games I always take Garrus and Tali.
in Mass effect 3 in every mission where i didnt have to take one perticular squad member, id take Liara and Garrus, i was a Infiltrator, garrus carried a Assult rifle and liara backed with BIotics, prefect team
ProdigyPlaysYT Garrus is calm, uses sniper and is an engineer. His opposite is a biotic using a shotgun and being the explosive personality. Wrex in ME1 and Jack from ME2 fits perfectly. And I'm the soldier, the middle-ground, who listen to inputs from both and take my decisions accordingly. The chemestry between Wrex and Garrus was perfect, I miss him... although Jack is the best biotic in the game. I haven't played ME3, so I don't who will I choose to be the third member when the time comes.
Heisenburguer
Shockwave = husk killer
. I take her on the Collector ship, the derelict Reaper, and the Long Walk, with Samara making the bubble.
In ME3:
I would use Liara and Garrus against Reapers,
EDI and Liara against Cerberus,
EDI and Tali against Geth
I noticed Garrus didn't let Shepard look through his sniper rifle.... Interesting.
+Y Chromosome 99 How so
Xpert Gaming Because Garrus has not bonded with Shepard. It makes sense.
awww got it thanks for answer
Xpert Gaming No problem.
+Y Chromosome 99 Aeh your Dialog is intrsting you two but you are actually mistaken something^^ the Moment where Shepard is looking trough the Sniper Rifles visor is when they go there and garrus says "lets look for what they are up to"....
And thats actually at the end of the Video... so the Scene comes after that =)
Before I did this mission, my sis wouldn't shut up about Garrus "Space Bae" Vakarian. I didn't really get why everyone obsessed over him.
Then he took a rocket to the face and laid there like an eviscerated turian puppy and he got me.
+AfroPuma186 it's good you've seen it. Otherwise it would be hard to tell which side of his face took the shot. ;)
im sure if everyone looked deep into garrus' heart...which is currently all over that wall...im sure you'll find a way to forgive her
omfg u did not just
AfroPuma186 space bae xD
"Concusive shots only", damn liar!
Who wouldn't recruit Garrus, he is awesome!
+Badass Elite he's the best.. he is pratically the alien who gathers more attention on the cape of tha game
+Badass Elite eh in ME1 he just kept dying but for ME2 & 3 he was the best.
+Anthony Muller Are you sure you knew how to command the squad in ME1?
Everybody else survived way longer in missions than garrus. I have played ME1 and beaten it three times I think I know how to command them.
Anthony Muller Clearly not, your Garrus kept dying
wrex is love, garrus is life
That my swamp
Wrex and Garrus... My fav with Tali, Jack and Edi
Tyler Sheehan-Ford thane is love and life
Hell ,yeah
I bet maybe five people have seen this slightly altered scene in their own playthrough, lol. One does not simply not recruit one of the best BioWare characters ever made.
I wanted to see what happens if you play through without recruiting anyone you don't need.
@@Her_Imperious_Condescension What do you mean you don't « need » Garrus ?
@NoelistAvenger
I mean you don't need Garrus.
@@Her_Imperious_Condescension Yes you do.
@NoelistAvenger
No, you really don't. Not in the first game.
Oh I'm sure Garrus nailed you a couple times
Wait, that metaphor just went somewhere horrible.
Yeah it did.
We love Garrus Vakarian!
i am Garrus Vakarian and this is my Rectum!
Mermidion I could never bring myself to do that.
The game should be over if you didn't hire Garrus in ME1. Such a criminal act!!! Even if you don't use him, bring him along for the sole reason he is Garrus.
There's....no real indication that Shepard never recruited Garrus and got to know him before hand. I would have expected some lines along the lines of "You know who I am, but who are you?" since Shepard's been dead for two years and would have no reason to remember a random C-Sec agent she met on the Citadel right after becoming a Specter
Mass Effect 1 is worthless without recruiting Garrus. Ma bro.
You can't forget Tali.
Yeah, Garrus is one of my favourite characters in this game, throughout the games you see his morality grow and you can influence this growth down a renegade path or paragon path, you can't do this with any other character and you get to see him grow, so it offers an extra layer of realism to his character... Whoever wrote his character did a splendid job.
You know, I played this game when it first came out and I never thought about what would happen if I didn't recruit someone from the first part, this is interesting
who didn't recruit garrus😢
Me, with a pragmatic xenophobic Shepard. That was... my third or my fourth run ?
Just to see how it was to not have him in the team.
Neobahamutfr36 And, How was that without him?
Never been to the 2 with this character.
I am Archangel and this is my favorite spot on Omega!
Garrus is bro for life. He was the only one who I really cared about surviving until the end.
anyone ales scream out "Garrusss!"
99% of the comments below this one are something along the lines of "why tf would you not recruit Garrus??"
Why wouldn't you recruit Garrus in Mass Effect 1? Garrus is awesome!
and after this he still talks as though he came along with you to fight saren
It's weird seeing Garrus without his face all scarred up. That is what you call consistency.
Only time I'll use Zaeed, unless I go straight for Mordin. You can get rid of Jacob in the fastest time possible if you download him, which I presume 99.9999999% of Mass Effect players do as soon as possible, no one likes Jacob, right?
I never used Jacob, ever. Talk about a waste of space, and he always has the most idiotic comments. Plus, he's such a pantywaste, all he ever does is whine. Ugh.
Juliette Burgon But the priiiiiize
Still better than Ash though...
Karol Osmański I'd say they're on the same level.
Juliette Burgon Hm, you may be right. Still, I think the bottom line is- Ash is stupid and shortsighted, and Jacob can see the big picture, that's why he was with alliance and cerberus. For the same reasons Shepard was. I enjoyed more talking to him in then talking to Ash... All she ever had to say was either alliance duty or her familly (even her familly was boring, lol).
Garrus was my favorite character from the moment I met him in ME 1
It’s almost as bad as killing Wrex in the first game.
I like how Garrus still left an impression on Shepard even without spending a whole game with her.
i just love the shape of turians mouth, its so cute
How did you NOT recruit Garrus!?
Who seriously doesn't recruit Garrus. Garrus is bæ
Does it even count as playing mass effect if you don’t recruit Garrus?
No, it doesn't count.
Now think about this: If you are stupid, you can play Mass Effect 1 and 3 without Garrus.
it's just called Effect and it sucks.
The real question here is why the hell would someone not recruit garrus
I just noticed a hole in Mass effect 2: What if one of the Mercs decided to shoot at Garrus through his window? While they are talking. "It works both ways" Right?
It wouldn't because they step further into the room away from the windows when they're talking. The mercs wouldn't have an angle on them during the conversation. And even then, there were no mercs available for a considerable portion of the conversation. The entirety of the freelancer wave had already been annihilated by Garrus and Shepard's team. The three established merc outfits hadn't mobilized yet.
"It works both ways" is in direct referral to the fact that there was, at the time, only one way in and one way out.
Thinking Gamers
Besides, the merc bands weren't hiring snipers, that would would have actually cost money. They were just promising to pay any moron with a gun that was willing buy them time. They weren't actually hiring anyone with any real skills. Even the mercs you speak to on the way in mention it's about time they got someone who actually knew what they were doing.
That's not a hole - just a missed opportunity. The enemies in a game don't have to be on top of every opportunity, and these enemies were probably too busy regrouping to go out sniping.
No, it's a plot hole, just a minor and forgivable one considering all the major ones in the story. The best excuse is that they were "regrouping".
You're misinterpreting this completely. What he means by "It works both ways" is that the bridge is like a bottleneck, forcing the mercs into a narrow firing line as opposed to coming from all angles "Funneling all those witless idiots into scope". But if they try to go out the same way, they'll have the same problem of being put somewhere with nowhere to maneuver, and the mercs can concentrate their fire in a small area making it impassible.
"If I wanted to do more than take your shields down, I'd have done it." Is it just me, or does that sound like a come on? ;D
I see it the dialouge is slightly different
I know that almost no one plays ME1 without recruiting him But, I kind of wish Shepard could have had a line like, "Should I know you?".
Love Shepard's googles, so cool!
I know this is already beyond said in the comments. But I must add:
How can one not Garrus Vakarian?
It is the same dialog. Nothing changed.
+XadowMonzter I thought the same.
The only notable change is just the part where Shepard says his name, but everything else stays the same.
+XadowMonzter Probably is that way because hardly anyone ever would not recruit Garrus in ME1 unless they force themselves to do so just to see what would be different.
THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS RECRUIT GARRUS!!!!
+XadowMonzter yeah, nothing
"You nailed me good a couple rounds by the way"
That's what she said
Gare-bear is my favorite ^_^
I love how he’s still the same Garrus we all know and love. The dialogue and the feel of the scene and the dynamic between him and Shepard are all a bit different but he’s still hardcore. He’s still approachable (as long as you’re not one of his enemies). He’s still grown and developed a bit as a character, while keeping that same sass and spunk. If you didn’t feel like recruiting him before, you can be darn sure you’ll love having him on your ship now.
How can someone not recruit Garrus in Mass Effect 1? Hes too amazing to pass up!
Even though hes not a romance option in the first game, hes by far the best character on your team, Wrex coming in second. Surprising because those are the two you can miss out on.
you can easily avoid killing wrex on virmire by using charm.intimidate or doing the mission "wrex's family armor" before virmire
"There is no Shepard without Vakarian"
Commander Shepard
I never even considered not recruiting every single person.
These days I only use Zaeed so I can throw him as cannon fodder at the Collector base. Cannot stand that guy... like a spoiled toddler trapped in some old Irishman's body.
I've done so many playthroughs of the trilogy to explore all the options, it's close to insanity at this point...
Never recruit Garrus in ME1? *le gasp* Why even play the game at all then?
I just enjoy listening to him talk 😍 his voice is just something lol
I love how they epically reveal him like you know him already XD
This is what happens to people who don't know how to play the Mass Effect series...
I would never have seen this otherwise. Thanks!
Who doesn't recruit Garrus?! I didn't know this was even possible
In mass effect one i always only used wrex and garrus and in mass effect two i always used garrus and grunt but it all got destroyed when you couldnt get a krogan companion in mass effect 3 but i still use garrus
Aww this saddens me.. iv had ME1&2 for a while but I just got the legendary so I'm doing a full run-through and havnt done the 3rd game yet. I do the same as Garrus, Wrex and Grunt are my 3 favorite characters.
Nice vid! Although, the text with Garrus is hardly different than if you did recruit him in Mass Effect 1. The only thing that I noticed was different was when she said his name. That's the only thing I didn't recognize. Of course, I played the male version of Mass Effect, so it could just be the actor's way she said it in either instance. But yeah....I didn't see a big difference in dialogue.
There aren't too many differences, but it's not just the raw dialogue thats different, it's the tone of voice as well, not drastically different, but noticable on those lines.
Larry Williams The only difference I heard was the name too. I played femshep, and the dialogue was the same. Expect for the way femshep said Garrus' name. In my game, when I recruited him in ME1 she said his name happier and excited to see him again. In this video it sounded like she said his name more confused, as to why he's here. She's not expecting to see him, since it's been a while since she saw him.
There's also part of the cutscene that seems to be missing if you don't recruit Garrus in ME1. You lose some dialog and Garrus doesn't let Shepard look through his scope.
You know you've written a good character when you manage to make people like him without having to play the first game.
Its exactly the same cutscene as I got even when I had Garrus with me every mission after I recruited him in ME1
I actually was surprised to see this, because I literally just finished this mission with that team. I don't even know how many times I've done it at this point, but I have never done it with Miranda and Zaeed.
+Damon Fyrian They are quite a combination, with Zaed's passive 50% damage increase and Miranda's passive ability which increases weapon damage even further, with combat oriented Shepard(Soldier, Infiltrator, Vanguard), they are unstoppable.
Nemanja Ilic I can't remember for certain, but my Shepard was either a male Adept or a male Vanguard. I just know it was one of the two biotic classes.
+Damon Fyrian There are three biotic classes, you are forgeting about Sentinel. :D
Nemanja Ilic I didn't forget it, Sentinel is half and half. I was referring to the pure biotic classes.
Well Vanguard is a combination of combat and biotic. Only pure biotic is Adept.
Why would anyone not recruit garrus?
I love how Shepard fangirled when she saw him.
Femshep to garrus - "You nailed me good a couple of times, by the way."
“Never Recruited in ME1”. I’m sorry. I don’t understand. What language is that?
Who in their right mind wouldn't recruit garrus??
Samuel Mitchell maybe he was trying to use what was left of his mind?
get it?
left..
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i should get a life
Alekthefirst hehehe
@@Alekthefirst 'Would you kindly' get a life? (If you got that reference, you're a cool guy and have to do what I just said) ;D
The two party members you can have through out the whole trilogy are my favorites
Funny how that works
Garrus was my right hand man while playing as Shepard.
the real question is: why the FUCK would you not recruit garrus?!
+snoozyfern you reallly really like kaidan and ashley and dont want to render them obsolete... only to reach virmire and realize you done fucked up
Didn't recruit Garrus??!?! YOU MONSTER!
He's such a badass! Hell - I like Garrus more than I like Shepard!
I wish they would make a spin-off with him: Mass Effect: Archangel.... Would play the shit outta that game - even if it was a 2D sidescroller.
Thanks, I honestly didn't know there was a way to not recruit Garrus. I doubt I'll ever do that because Garrus is one of my favorite teammates but it was nice to see the alternative route for this game.
Funny how this is showing in my recommended after the remaster is being announced but i recuited Garrus in ME1 and had the exact same dialog as this. Yes i remember from that far back, one of my favorite game series. Almost 100% on all four games
Hmm... It sounds the same as the regular one.
isnt that basically the same scene as if you recruited him??
I didn’t even know there was a possibility of not recruiting Garrus In mass effect one, it seems a shame if you didn’t though he’s such a great character.
I really can't imagine a playthrough of ME1 without Garrus in it. I'm trying to but I just can't.
Was this any different than if you DO recruit him? I played this part long ago, but I didn't find any difference from memory.
If you recruited him, Shepard is like: nice to see you, buddy, and here shes/hes like: Oh, youre that turian csec guy I met 2 years ago, arent you?
how is this any different????? its the same interaction you get when he was a part of your me1 team......
iKillOrDieTryN it's a different introduction and he says a few things that would be different if he was on your team
If he was recruited in ME1, Shepard's reaction now is very positive.
What's even alternate in this scene? As far as at least this video shows, it plays out exactly the same way with no different dialogue. They act like they know and trust each other even though in 2 years they've literally said less than 10 sentences to each other across two minutes. Shepard wouldn't even remember Garrus by name at this point. He'd have to introduce himself as the C-Sec Officer trying to find evidence of Saren's treason. He'd probably have to mention Doctor Michael to really jog her memory.
You know I’ve seen this scene and the other and never once noticed that there are two different possible scenes here. The first time I played ME2 was on a new Xbox 360 so my ME1 save file wasn’t there. Interesting.
Not recruiting him in ME1? Is that possible?
Sand Coffin There are two options.
1. When Anderson first tells you to go meet him, you can simply ignore going to the nursery.
2. Even if you actually go just to save the nurse (and unlock her store), you can decline the offer of him to join you.
Star Killah :O How horrible... especially the second option!
This should be Illegal. Whoever did this deserves a life sentence
Over not recruiting a video game character? Y'all are fuckin losers lmao, no wonder why regular folk don't like us
@@LukeyMia4 I guess you can't detect sarcasm....
Hold on, this seems exactly like the meeting my character had, but i was imported from ME1 with all 6 followers
Garrus is definitely in my top 5 video game characters of all time.
I don't see why someone would never recruit him in ME1... He's a sweetie. ;-;
Part of why it's amusing when people complain about now having influence over ME3s ending when that was really the case the entire time. Playing again as Renegade Shepard has left me constantly disappointed that either the plot forces you down a certain road or Renegade options result in Shepard/other characters saying the same things.
I got this once because I was curious and was pleasantly surprised to be honest. I know soundtracks can't change but I found it quite funny that there was still that strong fanfare like tune for someone you didn't even recruit in ME1.
thank you
Fact that you can play ME1 without Garrus.. like the idea just makes me cringe. I keep thinking about what if some idiot missed recruiting him somehow in first game. AH. Just ..so wrong.
BIG GODDAMN HERO
I think while bioware has to prepare for these outcomes bc they never know how it's going to go, it only happens when people are playing in such a way that they're LOOKING for rare dialogue
0:07
Can it wait for a bit? Im in the middle of some calibrations...
1:06 ‘It wasn’t easy, I REALLY had to work for it’This is why we love Garrus
These games are amazing,
How does this video even exist, who doesnt recuit Garrus? He is one of the only ones who has your back through the whole story. Straight up homie right there
Does anyone else this sound like the same dialogue as if you did recruit him in ME1? I imported my character from ME1 and I swear this is exactly how my conversation went.
AFlyingTrout Poor writing... Instead of asking his name ( in this video ), you will get a option of suprise... Its the only thing that changes...