@@americandream_89 the new redesigned deck 60 is supposed to be better I have the 61. I will say weekly grass I can mow rough ground at 12.5 mph full gps speed comfortable it is like riding a atv. the 930 deere will buck you off the seat and beat you up and I can not mow faster than 8mph. that said the deere out cuts the deere in weedy grass and thick or wet. the deere does better on hills and ditches and better on small properties. the deere is a tank very well engineered and feel it will outlast the ferris but I work on my equipment. the ferris will stripe better on fescue lawn would be the only advantage I would like to have the 7 iron on a ferris but I like the hydros better on the deere also. they are both great mowers and I am rough on my equipment. I've never bent a blade or spindle on the deere the ferris has had 2 blades and spindles bent deere makes good blades and spindles I would say the best in the industry
The shaft drive to the deck allows for more cutting heights. A belt drive from the engine to the deck can only operate on so much of an angle therefore reducing cutting height.
I've got an Exmark lazer Z, Gravely 260z and a Super Z Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive by far is the best all around mower. If I were to build the ultimate mower it would be a hyperdrive with an ultracut deck. I think the Exmark barely wins out in cut quality when mowing tall fine fescue, but the hydraulics on the Hyperdrive are just plain awesome!
Exmark and hustler are 2 of the best. Like you said all grass cuts different. Although in my experience I’ve yet to have a Exmark out cut the hustler’s but my yard is just now getting fine fescue. Thanks for the input
EXCELLENT details!! Great pros & cons of the different setups! Keep it comin!! I’ve had the same issue of deck bounce & re-location of the deck on my Spartan as well. There was a kit available for the older models that supposedly fixed the issue? Mines a 2017 model, & I’ve nvr put the kit on mine to see if it fixed the problem? I’ll save my comments for the Spartan comparison!
Yeah. I’ve called them multiple times. They will not come out. I’ve got several buddies with them that say they cut great as long as it’s not wet out. I’ve got several guys that have offered there unit for testing but any company that refuses to bring out a unit or have a rep it said to me that company wouldn’t be there for you. I’m still trying to get them out though. I know they make a great mower.
I’ve got a new video coming showing more on the two with exmarks new adapt system. Which is truly a game changer in some cases. As far as a hustler hyperdrive vs a exmark I truly like the hustler in every way. It rides and drives a ton better. I’d recommend testing both of possible. You can’t go wrong either way
I have a scag Patriot and I haven’t had any issues and it works great. I owned a hustler raptor before I purchased my scag and I like both but the hustler is not in the same class as the scag.
Man great overview of these "high-end" (non-diesel) machines! I am partial to the Exmark as I own a 2002 60" Lazer-Z with just under 4,000 hours. It has the 27hp liquid cooled Kawasaki which is a horizontal engine and because of this, they used the mule drive instead of a gearbox like the Turf Tiger. I think back in the day when most Exmarks used the mule drive is when the argument of which was better: "the mule drive or the gearbox" was talked about a lot but now that Exmark has switched to vertical shaft engines in the Lazer that those mule drive vs gearbox arguments are now moot. I think the only other horizontal engine (non-diesel) on a mower is the Bad Boy Renegade. You can see the mule drive in the pics on their website. But for Scag, since the Turf Tiger II follows much of the original design of the Turf Tiger I, I guess it made sense not to change the gearbox design. A lot of people swear by Scag... I just don't have any experience with them. That Hustler Hyperdrive mower sure is nice though!
Thanks for the input. I’ve never used one with the mule drive. Do you think it cut better than the new design? 4000 hours on a machine is great that’s something that tells me they make a great mower. I’ve never had one over 1000 before selling. Not because it broke down I just trade and sell 24/7. I hardly ever see a mower liquid cooled any more I wish they still used a cooler.
@@americandream_89 I don't think that either the mule drive setup or the gearbox setup cut any better than the new direct vertical shaft designs, but like you pointed out in the video, the fewer pulleys that have to be turned, the more power that can be put to the blades (and hydro system). I do like that most high end mowers (except for Exmark haha) have stayed with the traditional separate hydro pump and motor. The integrated pump and motor units to me at least seem like a "cheapo" mower at a box store. I'm sure those new Exmarks with the integrated Parker drives operate better than my old mower but yea time will tell if they ever get high hours like mine has.
@@americandream_89check out grasshopper mid mount machines!! They use the mule belt and horizontal shaft engines like the older exmarks and toros. The 329 liquid cooled, 325 diesel, and 335 big block are awesome mowers!!
I had an examrk and loved it, minus a few issues. But the main reason I switched to huslter....my exmark dealers suck here in my area and offer no support
Our exmark dealer here is one of the best dealers in the country. They will be in the bio. We do not have a local dealer for hustler. I just can’t get away from hustler for many reasons.
Sounds like you like the hustler over the exmark, " I can't get away from Hustler for many reasons", I read a lot that the newer Hustler mowers are junk not what they used to be, Im wanting to get a 48" Fastrak but that's a lot of money to fork over, heard scag ain't what the hype says, heard Exmark is point on same as Toro
I’ve own all 3 of them and all i can say its that they’re Great mowers! The only thing you wanna look out for it’s vanguard engines if you wanna have less mechanical issues. Kawasaki or kohler it’s the way to go.
I’ve always felt like a Kawasaki motor was strong compared to the same hp of any other brand. They also seem to hold rpm better. They are louder than the vanguard.
😂 An FX921V does not compare to a Briggs Vanguard 37HP in terms of horsepower or torque. The Vanguard (especially with the Oil Guard system) is a better motor. I have a 25hp FX801V on my Toro, so no hate. Kawasaki build excellent small engines; but those Vanguard big blocks are legit.
My Scag hasn't had any problems and cuts my yard better than any of the commercial lawn services I has in the past. Glad I bought it
Glad to hear that. Scag makes a great mower.
i got isx2200 ferris and deere 930. good job explaining
Thanks
I’m really wanting to get a Ferris out. The guy that helped me really likes them and I’ve heard many with the same opinion
@@americandream_89 the new redesigned deck 60 is supposed to be better I have the 61. I will say weekly grass I can mow rough ground at 12.5 mph full gps speed comfortable it is like riding a atv. the 930 deere will buck you off the seat and beat you up and I can not mow faster than 8mph. that said the deere out cuts the deere in weedy grass and thick or wet. the deere does better on hills and ditches and better on small properties. the deere is a tank very well engineered and feel it will outlast the ferris but I work on my equipment. the ferris will stripe better on fescue lawn would be the only advantage I would like to have the 7 iron on a ferris but I like the hydros better on the deere also. they are both great mowers and I am rough on my equipment. I've never bent a blade or spindle on the deere the ferris has had 2 blades and spindles bent deere makes good blades and spindles I would say the best in the industry
Looking forward to seeing the cutting video!!!! Thanks for taking the time to post this video!
The shaft drive to the deck allows for more cutting heights. A belt drive from the engine to the deck can only operate on so much of an angle therefore reducing cutting height.
Didn’t think about that 👍
Scag looks like a beast!
Great mower for sure
All 3 mowers r some of the best mowers made.I would take any of them
For sure
I've got an Exmark lazer Z, Gravely 260z and a Super Z Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive by far is the best all around mower. If I were to build the ultimate mower it would be a hyperdrive with an ultracut deck. I think the Exmark barely wins out in cut quality when mowing tall fine fescue, but the hydraulics on the Hyperdrive are just plain awesome!
Exmark and hustler are 2 of the best. Like you said all grass cuts different. Although in my experience I’ve yet to have a Exmark out cut the hustler’s but my yard is just now getting fine fescue. Thanks for the input
EXCELLENT details!! Great pros & cons of the different setups! Keep it comin!!
I’ve had the same issue of deck bounce & re-location of the deck on my Spartan as well. There was a kit available for the older models that supposedly fixed the issue? Mines a 2017 model, & I’ve nvr put the kit on mine to see if it fixed the problem? I’ll save my comments for the Spartan comparison!
Me father in law has a Spartan and they installed the kit. From my knowledge it’s helped a ton. Thanks for your input.
Do a badboy renegade review. Would love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the more expensive units.
I’ve been trying to get them out or even a demo. So far no response or ability to demo
Have you ever considered Grasshopper mowers
Yeah. I’ve called them multiple times. They will not come out. I’ve got several buddies with them that say they cut great as long as it’s not wet out. I’ve got several guys that have offered there unit for testing but any company that refuses to bring out a unit or have a rep it said to me that company wouldn’t be there for you. I’m still trying to get them out though. I know they make a great mower.
Which one has the best suspension and rides best?
Out of these setups the hustler rides the best but I think the scag could be on par with springer forks
Ferris or Exmark/Toro MyRide.
What type of Hustler mower is that? How much HP?
@@TheZactacular it’s a hustler hyperdrive with a 66 inch cut running a 37 hp Briggs & Stratton motor and it has around 200 hours on it
IMHO, Hustlers steering is by far the smoothest and the auto parking brake in the lap bars wins hands down.
1000000% agree nothing even comes close on the hydraulic system/steering.
Overall in your opinion how much better is the hustler vs the exmark?
I’ve got a new video coming showing more on the two with exmarks new adapt system. Which is truly a game changer in some cases.
As far as a hustler hyperdrive vs a exmark I truly like the hustler in every way. It rides and drives a ton better. I’d recommend testing both of possible. You can’t go wrong either way
They're both excellent commercial mowers. It comes down to features for the price.
I have a scag Patriot and I haven’t had any issues and it works great. I owned a hustler raptor before I purchased my scag and I like both but the hustler is not in the same class as the scag.
That Has nothing to do with these mowers.
You can't compare a raptor to patriot...
Really? What model raptor?
@@chris8998422i believe you can if its the raptor xdx, the xdx has the same deck as the hustler fast trek which is deff in the same class as patriot
Parker builds tough hydro motors.
Agreed
Where does a Kubota zero turn rank among these 3?
I’ve yet to run kubota but looking at there specs I’d say they would compete well. I’ll try and get them out.
It doesn't not in same class
@@chrisdumais4385 Which is better?
@@Noypi54494 scag cheetah and tiger great
I've been a HUGE huslter fan for a few years now, I've owned a few different, gotta say the huslter held up the best
Thanks for the info. Hustler is hard to beat in any situation. I’ve got some good footage coming.
Exmark runs the 37efi briggs have 2 of them
I’ve been trying to get one out. Our dealer just hasn’t had many
Hot 2 deere 757s
HUSTLER ALL DAY LONG!
Man great overview of these "high-end" (non-diesel) machines! I am partial to the Exmark as I own a 2002 60" Lazer-Z with just under 4,000 hours. It has the 27hp liquid cooled Kawasaki which is a horizontal engine and because of this, they used the mule drive instead of a gearbox like the Turf Tiger. I think back in the day when most Exmarks used the mule drive is when the argument of which was better: "the mule drive or the gearbox" was talked about a lot but now that Exmark has switched to vertical shaft engines in the Lazer that those mule drive vs gearbox arguments are now moot. I think the only other horizontal engine (non-diesel) on a mower is the Bad Boy Renegade. You can see the mule drive in the pics on their website. But for Scag, since the Turf Tiger II follows much of the original design of the Turf Tiger I, I guess it made sense not to change the gearbox design. A lot of people swear by Scag... I just don't have any experience with them. That Hustler Hyperdrive mower sure is nice though!
Thanks for the input. I’ve never used one with the mule drive. Do you think it cut better than the new design? 4000 hours on a machine is great that’s something that tells me they make a great mower. I’ve never had one over 1000 before selling. Not because it broke down I just trade and sell 24/7. I hardly ever see a mower liquid cooled any more I wish they still used a cooler.
@@americandream_89 I don't think that either the mule drive setup or the gearbox setup cut any better than the new direct vertical shaft designs, but like you pointed out in the video, the fewer pulleys that have to be turned, the more power that can be put to the blades (and hydro system). I do like that most high end mowers (except for Exmark haha) have stayed with the traditional separate hydro pump and motor. The integrated pump and motor units to me at least seem like a "cheapo" mower at a box store. I'm sure those new Exmarks with the integrated Parker drives operate better than my old mower but yea time will tell if they ever get high hours like mine has.
@@americandream_89check out grasshopper mid mount machines!! They use the mule belt and horizontal shaft engines like the older exmarks and toros. The 329 liquid cooled, 325 diesel, and 335 big block are awesome mowers!!
I had an examrk and loved it, minus a few issues. But the main reason I switched to huslter....my exmark dealers suck here in my area and offer no support
Our exmark dealer here is one of the best dealers in the country. They will be in the bio. We do not have a local dealer for hustler. I just can’t get away from hustler for many reasons.
Sounds like you like the hustler over the exmark, " I can't get away from Hustler for many reasons", I read a lot that the newer Hustler mowers are junk not what they used to be, Im wanting to get a 48" Fastrak but that's a lot of money to fork over, heard scag ain't what the hype says, heard Exmark is point on same as Toro
I’ve own all 3 of them and all i can say its that they’re Great mowers! The only thing you wanna look out for it’s vanguard engines if you wanna have less mechanical issues. Kawasaki or kohler it’s the way to go.
I age on the Kawasaki part. I’d like to have a hustler hyperdrive with the Kawasaki 38.5
I just bought a 2024 hyper drive last week with the kawasaki FX1000v and that thing its awesome.
👍👍
Scab runs hydro 5400 not parker
That’s a turf tiger it runs Parker
Your thinking of a cheetah
I’ve heard nothing but good things about the hustler hyperdrive
The motor on the exmark is very strong for 26hp I feel like the fx921v would be stronger than both of those vanguards but good review!
I’ve always felt like a Kawasaki motor was strong compared to the same hp of any other brand. They also seem to hold rpm better. They are louder than the vanguard.
@@americandream_89 I 100% Agree!
kawasaki uses different hp rating more conservative I don't know how briggs and kohler get away with deception
😂
An FX921V does not compare to a Briggs Vanguard 37HP in terms of horsepower or torque.
The Vanguard (especially with the Oil Guard system) is a better motor.
I have a 25hp FX801V on my Toro, so no hate. Kawasaki build excellent small engines; but those Vanguard big blocks are legit.
@@shanepipkin4041Kawasaki is within 3% of rated spec. Briggs and Kohler are within 5%. It's not enough to worry about, imo.
Scag scag. Scag. Their top of the line is the number one mower
The turf tiger?
@@americandream_89 its their flagship. Turf tiger 2. Diesel or 40 hp efi gas.
@@Johnrider1234 I’ve got a comparison with one on here