This has made every single belt- and cog-driven wheelbase currently on the market 100% obsolete. There is no reason to buy one brand new with a 3.9Nm DD wheelbase sitting at $400 USD. I'm really intrigued by the idea that this ES wheel will make all their other wheelbases Xbox compatible. Apparently they are likely going to sell it separately at some point, so if you want more power, just hold out for now.
The XBox compatibility chip is located inside the ES XBox wheel, so if that wheel is installed into the R5 or R12, those wheelbase will be XBox compatible as well. The good news is Moza are planning to release the ES XBox wheel separately, and will release other XBox compatible wheels soon
@amstudio hopefully you can do a part 2 review of the FFB and you used or modified several Logitech wheels before so without naming them please let us know if it is better it's providing us with better details for games like ACC and the same Dirt 2.0 you tested. 3.9nm is not bad and won't kill my arms at Nordschlie 24.
So, how much does it cost? I'm surprised it's viable for them to make a special wheelbase version just for Xbox users instead of modifying the currently existing R5 & adding Xbox support to it. My only "criticism" might be the choice of rubber grips over alcantara as that would potentially make the steering wheel more lightweight than even the openwheeler mod. Also the lack of a clutch in pedal sets which has been happening for some time now in other brands as well & not just Moza is annoying but what can you do... at least they give you an ability to add it later if you wish to do so
Moza will release the ES Xbox wheel separately, so put that into the R5 or R12 and plug the SRP Lite pedals into the wheelbase and you'll get yourself a Xbox compatible set
I really truely believe the magic of dd needs the extra power. 3.9 just isnt enough bexause its so smooth and such little friction it makes it feel weaker.
Hi, I got inspired by your content to make a custom steering wheel for my DD base but I was wondering is there any way to add two rotary position switches? I thought of using an arduino like you did for the button box
So is the R3 compatible with the ES formula wheel? I watched the all the video but i wanted to make sure it was 100% compatible because i couldn't find anything on internet
Prove it’s true. I bought it a month ago and it works absolutely fantastic. Much better choice for me than Logitech g29 even thrustmaster t248. That’s why I’m selling my thrustmaster
I am looking to buy a fanatec because of the power and the Formula 1 wheel. But if they manage to do that but cheaper and console compatible then I might look at moza if that ever happens
No. Moza did not get Playstation licensing from Sony. It costs an arm and a leg and requires a lot of work to integrate into the wheelbase. It's why there are so few DD wheelbases for under $800 USD compatible with the PS4/PS5.
Hi there amstudio, I have seen you making some really good diy stuff that works amazing. I was wondering if you could somehow make wheelloader levers to fs22. In wheelloaders they use levers to lift the hydralics and stuff like that. I cant figure out what to use to track the z rotation on the levers I thought maybe you can come up with a soulution. Thanks for the good content👌
A 3Nm direct drive wheel isn't as budget friendly as it first seems. Isn't it better to just go with one of the belt driven thrustmaster wheels? Unless you want a moza wheel desperately...
That's relative. A direct drive is superior and more reliable over time because there is no mechanical grinding. Thrustmaster is still cheaper, though.
@@ryanviertel7059 but is 3Nm enough force to feel sufficiently "realistic"? I feel like 4-5Nm is the minimum for a wheelbase, otherwise the ffb isn't strong enough, or is it just me? 🤔 Also, isn't a belt driven system good enough already? I've always had the idea that gear driven is the worst, followed by belt which feels better and has more ffb than belt driven wheelbases, followed by direct drive wheels which can produce a lot more ffb
I can't speak from experience with a belt driven wheel so I probably shouldn't be talking, but from the many reviews that I've watched DD is far more responsive and detailed than a belt driven wheel, even at an equivalent or lower peak torque. Going from a G29 to a Moza R5 was an absolute revelation for me, not because of the higher forces, but because of the extreme difference in detail and responsiveness.
Then sim racing may not be a hobby that you can participate in. There are a lot of cheaper options out there (Thrustmaster T128 is an even more entry level wheel, but is not direct drive).
@@MaXGTS1 Well it ain't that bad. The idea of sim racing is just not popular at all around here. People are mostly content with arcade races or just shooter genre. Only wheel which is available is Logitech g29. I would say it's quite affordable. But a DD wheel is a different story.
this kills all thrustmaster products 🤣
I would love to have PS5 compatibility...
Would have been nice to see higher wheel force but it looks like a way better option than a g29
I think that's the whole point. They're not trying to compete with the Logitech DD here, at least for now.
they have r5 or r9
@@filippoferrari2128 But those are not console compatible.
This has made every single belt- and cog-driven wheelbase currently on the market 100% obsolete.
There is no reason to buy one brand new with a 3.9Nm DD wheelbase sitting at $400 USD.
I'm really intrigued by the idea that this ES wheel will make all their other wheelbases Xbox compatible.
Apparently they are likely going to sell it separately at some point, so if you want more power, just hold out for now.
The XBox compatibility chip is located inside the ES XBox wheel, so if that wheel is installed into the R5 or R12, those wheelbase will be XBox compatible as well.
The good news is Moza are planning to release the ES XBox wheel separately, and will release other XBox compatible wheels soon
this is what i searched for months , many thanks and good driving^^
Do you know Something about the Release Date? Im still waiting :)
The r3 is now available.
The four dislikes till now are probably from fanakek Fanatic fans 🤣
@amstudio hopefully you can do a part 2 review of the FFB and you used or modified several Logitech wheels before so without naming them please let us know if it is better it's providing us with better details for games like ACC and the same Dirt 2.0 you tested. 3.9nm is not bad and won't kill my arms at Nordschlie 24.
So, how much does it cost? I'm surprised it's viable for them to make a special wheelbase version just for Xbox users instead of modifying the currently existing R5 & adding Xbox support to it.
My only "criticism" might be the choice of rubber grips over alcantara as that would potentially make the steering wheel more lightweight than even the openwheeler mod. Also the lack of a clutch in pedal sets which has been happening for some time now in other brands as well & not just Moza is annoying but what can you do... at least they give you an ability to add it later if you wish to do so
Alcantara gets matted down and nasty looking from the sweat on your hands. Gloves helps to prevent this to some degree.
its 400 bucks and a clutch pedal is like 40 or sum
Alcantara requires extra care and equipment to keep up. That's not what you want when keeping costs low is the goal.
Moza will release the ES Xbox wheel separately, so put that into the R5 or R12 and plug the SRP Lite pedals into the wheelbase and you'll get yourself a Xbox compatible set
MOZA now need to make a R3 NOT XBOX compatible bundle for 349$!!! :D
lucky i didnt buy this r3, got 2 months old r5 for 400$
can i put the moza fsr formula wheel on the r3 wheel base on xbox?
After setting in pc ,will it work as setting in Xbox also?
Has anyone received their R3 bundle yet? I pre ordered in September. Still waiting. Im hearing that shipment isonly expected in december for me
I'm so. From VN, they said April 2024
Trying to pick between this and a used t300
I really truely believe the magic of dd needs the extra power. 3.9 just isnt enough bexause its so smooth and such little friction it makes it feel weaker.
Excellent review
Hi, I got inspired by your content to make a custom steering wheel for my DD base but I was wondering is there any way to add two rotary position switches? I thought of using an arduino like you did for the button box
I hope they make one for the PlayStation soon
Test it a drifting in Assetto corsa
So is the R3 compatible with the ES formula wheel? I watched the all the video but i wanted to make sure it was 100% compatible because i couldn't find anything on internet
Review 4 month ago, but they still haven't release and sell them today :)
fr i want one so bad but it isn’t available 😭
Can’t wait upgrading from tmx pro to this will be massive for me hehe
im on the logitech driving force gt
I have a logitech G920, this R3 wheel is a definite upgrade over what I have now
@@trentschipke5799 nice one
Only issue is that console gamers play on TV and couch, no desk! So clamp to coffee table???
Sim rig
hi, can this R3 enable the moza hgp handbrake and shifter on XBOX? Thanks.
Is there any possibility of using my thrustmaster pedals and shifter with this wheel on consoles?
Prove it’s true. I bought it a month ago and it works absolutely fantastic. Much better choice for me than Logitech g29 even thrustmaster t248. That’s why I’m selling my thrustmaster
So you can just use the wheel to make the R9 compatible on xbox?
Not really since the r9 doesn’t have a port for the pedals. The r12 does have that port so you could use this wheel to make the r12 Xbox compatible.
Sadly not the R9, but R5 and R12 can.
second comment yay
Please moza do something like this for ps5
I am looking to buy a fanatec because of the power and the Formula 1 wheel. But if they manage to do that but cheaper and console compatible then I might look at moza if that ever happens
This is coming to me for forza anyone want to buy a thrustmaster lol
could this work on playstation?
I'll venture a guess that the Moza XBOX wheel is not compatible with Playstation
No. Moza did not get Playstation licensing from Sony. It costs an arm and a leg and requires a lot of work to integrate into the wheelbase.
It's why there are so few DD wheelbases for under $800 USD compatible with the PS4/PS5.
Wish it was. I would buy one.
Is there an option for a gear stick?
Would this only work on the next gen consoles or on older ones like the one s
Hi there amstudio, I have seen you making some really good diy stuff that works amazing. I was wondering if you could somehow make wheelloader levers to fs22. In wheelloaders they use levers to lift the hydralics and stuff like that. I cant figure out what to use to track the z rotation on the levers I thought maybe you can come up with a soulution. Thanks for the good content👌
I like my G923 xD
Schade hätte mir mehr davon erwartet aber naja Logitech G27 immer noch besser.
Maybe the pedals on a G27 are better, but in no way the wheelbase & steering wheel are better than this
And they dont even have proper wheel support profiles for their flagship racing games, so a complete waste.
A 3Nm direct drive wheel isn't as budget friendly as it first seems. Isn't it better to just go with one of the belt driven thrustmaster wheels? Unless you want a moza wheel desperately...
its best you pay 400 for a fanatec dd bundle and then later on buy the 8nm kit thats just my opinion
That's relative. A direct drive is superior and more reliable over time because there is no mechanical grinding. Thrustmaster is still cheaper, though.
Direct drive is a far better experience and it's nearly the same price
@@ryanviertel7059 but is 3Nm enough force to feel sufficiently "realistic"? I feel like 4-5Nm is the minimum for a wheelbase, otherwise the ffb isn't strong enough, or is it just me? 🤔 Also, isn't a belt driven system good enough already? I've always had the idea that gear driven is the worst, followed by belt which feels better and has more ffb than belt driven wheelbases, followed by direct drive wheels which can produce a lot more ffb
I can't speak from experience with a belt driven wheel so I probably shouldn't be talking, but from the many reviews that I've watched DD is far more responsive and detailed than a belt driven wheel, even at an equivalent or lower peak torque. Going from a G29 to a Moza R5 was an absolute revelation for me, not because of the higher forces, but because of the extreme difference in detail and responsiveness.
I can feed my family for a whole year with the cost of this entry level direct drive wheel in my country
Then my friend, you could feed the whole town with a non entry level bundle 😂 sucks to have expensive hobbies
Then sim racing may not be a hobby that you can participate in.
There are a lot of cheaper options out there (Thrustmaster T128 is an even more entry level wheel, but is not direct drive).
How do you have internet access in such a poor third world country?
@@MaXGTS1 Well it ain't that bad. The idea of sim racing is just not popular at all around here. People are mostly content with arcade races or just shooter genre.
Only wheel which is available is Logitech g29. I would say it's quite affordable. But a DD wheel is a different story.
@@galibshahriar4717 I can relate :(