Regarding the FFB strength usage and the Nm itself, Stronger bases like 16/21 allow you to drive at higher FFB strength without loosing details or causing the FFB to clip....that's why you have bases with those power outputs
That price is honestly very tempting! Btw in Beamng, check your controls and see if you have only one steering axis binding while your wheel is plugged in. I know if I play with a controller and switch to my wheel, the game interprets the wheel steering AND the thumbstick control left over from my gamepad, and it makes that annoying shaking in the wheel you're experiencing because it's basically duplicated the steering inputs. I'm curious if that fixes your problem!
Unlikely. Beamng had a death wobble in all of the cars for years that only went away for me after the latest update. There are still a handful of older cars that still do the death wobble.
the higher FFB moza bases are really nice for circuit racing and stuff, I have an R9 but find myself turning down the feedback a bit when drifting so I don't rip my shoulders out of my sockets
I currently have an R5 and i enjoy it. I keep putting the R9 in my cart. But dont know if its worth it. I usually drift and rally. So seeing your comment is helpful both perspectively and financially lol
@@3.1415Ds yeah I absolutely adore the higher FFB during rally stages. No regrets whatsoever in that sense. And honestly slowly as I improved at drifting I increased the ffb on the more realistic handling cars (I only really do AC drifting). I still don't run it at 100% most of the time, but I think theres a sweet spot on most of the cars I drift around 7-8NM when im in the zone and really feeling how the car will move. But the value of r5 to r9 may not be so great, unless you're sure you can find a buyer at a good price for the r5
wow this is great. i was thinking of getting dd wheel but i wasn't sure due to moza's shipping prices.. but well assuming this one is cheaper too yeah may as well do that eventually. happy there is more options now for this type of stuff it's great.
moza has a small program included with their drivers now for forza compatibility, basically aggregates all your dispositives into one vjoy device I think (forza emuwheel)
I've been looking for wheels to get, so that might be a good option to get once I have the money though. Also I love your video's, very fun and entertaining
Kinda regretting now for buying the T300RS (in a rush) and not waiting for the Moza R3. T300RS is a good wheel tho don't get me wrong, but for the same price range, you get a direct drive wheel, i'ts really great value for money.
@odahvi1216 yea they are just out of stock because of how fast they selled out I have been trying to find info when they will be in stock again some people said this month April I'm waiting as well to get it
Moza is changing the game its awesome i love my R5 it slaughters my g29 and any belt dive out there i highly recommend the moza R5 and Fanatec csl dd but rmoza has better build quality and same same performance pretty much no plastic just metal and a WAY nicr quick release is nice period so glad i chose moza
i went with the fanatec tbh, the ecosystem of all the parts, the prices for wheels and accessories, fanatecs tuning menu and the native wheel support in games can't be overlooked. They're both at a great price and i can get the boost pack whenever too add that little bit more feel if i need to. In the end, the customer always wins with competition
@@andrewdeer6836 I think theyre both amazing and while im saving up for a DD (ultimately my first wheel) I cant help but be torn at which to get. On one hand Fanatec is doing great but its like theyre still in the 90's with their logistical and manufacturing issues. They have HUGE logistical and manufacturing issues to the point where I was going to end up going with moza. Fanatecs Issues: Bunch of boxes for one setup. Horrible if you're expecting to get all your stuff in time or if you live in a neighborhood that isn't great (where people will see a bunch of big boxes being deliver to your place. + too many stories of everything gets delivered except for the QR system that somehow got lost and is delayed 2 weeks to a month making the whole thing unplayable Which the QR....almost as egregious as Logitechs wheel prices. They are now phasing out QR1 but in the implementation of the QR2 they are charging a fairly premium price to roll out the Q2s. For example: If I wanted to buy the 5nm csl dd bundle on a budget as in, buy it lower the torque until I can afford proper rig and buy the cheapest QR and lower torque to like 2.2 to reduce shaft flex then I literally cannot do that because you dont have the option to get the free QR1 lites that came with the bundle. Today on 10/24 if you want to get a csl dd bundle you will HAVE to basically buy the QR2 system for an additional 110 at the least (or was it like 150 to get both pieces I forget). Which means that even though the cheapest csl dd bundle is being marketed for 400 without the boost kit it is actually 500 to get the most updated QR system. Of course you can buy the QR1 metal piece but....like why would you do that you might as well bite the bullet and go for the one that will overfall fix the biggest issues with this bundle which is the flex that can ultimately lead to the failure of the device. With that being said I'm still going fanatec. and Thats because of ALL of those IMMENSE issues going on with the lower end CSL DD bundles it still doesnt have the one major dealbreaking issue that moza has right now Mozas issues: Overheating of the motor.....lol mb kind of a long reply but I've been doing so much research on these products lately and felt like nerding out especially if people might be torn between the moza and fanatec
The 3rd Car... VF SS... That's the same as my car! LS3 6.2ltr V8 and T56 6 speed Manual (both Corvette parts). It's possibly the best Sedan ever made here in Australia. And it really feels like it's made for the Adelaide Hills. This is the 7th day in a row watching your videos. Subscribed! Love your style mate
While racing I've noticed i'll turn my FFB up, drifting i'll lower it a lot so I don't have to fight the wheel soo much. Makes it easier to correct my line. Using the 8nm CSL DD.
@Goosiest IMAGINE R21 AT YOUR DESK ON 100% FORCE FEEDBACK AND YOU CRASH IN THE AC SHUTOKU MAP. IF YOU HOLD THE R21 BEFORE CRASHING AND NOT GETTING YOUR HANDS OF THE WHEEL, UR GOING TO FLY RIGHT OUT OF YOUR WINDOW😂
When o saw this video on my fyp I thought it was like 3 days ago or something but I watched a video on goosiest from 3 days ago and the video was amazing btw👌💯
Bro the CarX Lag is kind of random because CarX is such a Popular Game Its gotta have to fix the "Lag" issue. They Clearly have to step it up a notch because users/people cannot play with this much lag and its also so random like your in a tandem and lag happens than you crash to eachother it just ruins the tandem and also whn you said 'No Lag' then your game lagged its almost like the game heard you lol. Cool video!
@Goosiest btw i bought the moza R12 last week and I’m not even using half of the power what it has. I shouldn’t buy moza r12. I should bought the moza racing r3 or r5.
So the reason to get a higher powered wheel is higher dynamic range. Meaning far more detail. A r9 will feel better than the r5 when set at 5nm because it has 4 extra nm and thus causes the r9 to have a higher dynamic range when detecting frequencies related to Force feedback than the r5. So im planning on a R12. SRP loadcell pedals, KS wheel and CSv2 wheel. With my curent thrustmaster TH8a shifter and handbrake. I will only ever use 3 to 6nm when drifting. But racing or rally i will be using 10 to 12nm. Those forces are a different game when racing and not drifting.
Moza R3 is probably what I am getting next once I master my skills, just got a G920, first time driving with a wheel too, got a long road ahead, I am a pretty weak person so 2.1nm is already heavy imagine almost 4nm in a DD wheel haha…
Unless I see their R5 bundle for a good price, I think I found my first steering wheel 😂 I’ll mainly use it for BeamNG and Dirt but man I can’t wait to finally have a setup for streaming.
I think i might be able to help setup your r9 for forza because mine works and i got the same steering wheel too. Kind of a bummer that direct drive support is horrible in games like the crew 2
On Fanatec's Direct Drive wheel there is a slider in the software called FFI Force Feedback Intensity. Drop that by 10% and 90% of what I don't like about BeamNG on a wheel goes away.
I got the G27 (it's manual and comes with 3 pedals etc) for less than half the price of the R3. Only thing is i got it used but i got mine in peak condition, nothing was wrong with it whatsoever. it was about $120 and i got a free Xbox & PS4 USB converter with it
HEY GOOSE! i know you my not answer this, but, i got a g29 a while ago, absolutely hated it btw, worst mistake of my life trying to get into sim racing with a g29. So, say i have a 1,000 dollar total budget and want to get into sim drifting. What wheel, pedals, and shifter would you recommend? LMK if you can, thanks goose! EDIT: i have an ebay handbrake, but its meh, so maybe if there is some space in the budget you give me, throw a good handbrake in. EDIT 2, I plan on playing forza, WRC 10, beamg, and carx with the wheel. EDIT 3: I have a thinner table, so... if that effects anything lmfao.
This is the answer to a budget fanatec Update: I’m starting to get really impatient with them delaying the wheel, if it doesn’t come in until the end of march, I’m switching to fanatec instead
I'm looking for something super cheap but good to see if I want to really get into sim anything. It takes me a while to save money so I dont want to spend it on a "budget" wheel and not like the hobby enough to keep at it regularly to justify the cost.
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Regarding the FFB strength usage and the Nm itself, Stronger bases like 16/21 allow you to drive at higher FFB strength without loosing details or causing the FFB to clip....that's why you have bases with those power outputs
Fair enough
That price is honestly very tempting! Btw in Beamng, check your controls and see if you have only one steering axis binding while your wheel is plugged in. I know if I play with a controller and switch to my wheel, the game interprets the wheel steering AND the thumbstick control left over from my gamepad, and it makes that annoying shaking in the wheel you're experiencing because it's basically duplicated the steering inputs. I'm curious if that fixes your problem!
Unlikely. Beamng had a death wobble in all of the cars for years that only went away for me after the latest update. There are still a handful of older cars that still do the death wobble.
So thats why my stering sometimes just go left when using stering Wheel
It's unbelievable that it's so small but it's more powerful than the Thrustmaster T300!
yup...
TRUEE!@@Goosiest
Its just as powerfull
Actually T300 has 4 NM and it's older
no 3.9@@opetrtv9321
That wheel is the pure definition of a compact and perfect wheel❤
But not a good deal
Way too weak
@@RukaGoldhearthigh nm is pointless besides risking your wrists when you crash the car. you absolutely don't need more for steering even in drifting.
@@RukaGoldheartI just bought one and it’s surprisingly strong
the higher FFB moza bases are really nice for circuit racing and stuff, I have an R9 but find myself turning down the feedback a bit when drifting so I don't rip my shoulders out of my sockets
I currently have an R5 and i enjoy it. I keep putting the R9 in my cart. But dont know if its worth it. I usually drift and rally. So seeing your comment is helpful both perspectively and financially lol
@@3.1415Ds yeah I absolutely adore the higher FFB during rally stages. No regrets whatsoever in that sense. And honestly slowly as I improved at drifting I increased the ffb on the more realistic handling cars (I only really do AC drifting). I still don't run it at 100% most of the time, but I think theres a sweet spot on most of the cars I drift around 7-8NM when im in the zone and really feeling how the car will move. But the value of r5 to r9 may not be so great, unless you're sure you can find a buyer at a good price for the r5
Yoo goosiest, because of you I've wanted to get into sim racing/drifting in assetto corsa, keep up the great work man!
Thanks for your contribution to budget wheels and testing!!
wow this is great. i was thinking of getting dd wheel but i wasn't sure due to moza's shipping prices.. but well assuming this one is cheaper too yeah may as well do that eventually. happy there is more options now for this type of stuff it's great.
That is a beautiful wheel, I only hope more games start to support these
Goosiest never disappoints us by hes LOVING VIDS 🥰🥰🥰
Yep
moza has a small program included with their drivers now for forza compatibility, basically aggregates all your dispositives into one vjoy device I think (forza emuwheel)
I've been looking for wheels to get, so that might be a good option to get once I have the money though.
Also I love your video's, very fun and entertaining
Good luck!
Kinda regretting now for buying the T300RS (in a rush) and not waiting for the Moza R3. T300RS is a good wheel tho don't get me wrong, but for the same price range, you get a direct drive wheel, i'ts really great value for money.
And you save a ton of desk space
is the R3 out yet or what? I'm looking at it on the website and there's no option for me to buy it.
@odahvi1216 yea they are just out of stock because of how fast they selled out I have been trying to find info when they will be in stock again some people said this month April I'm waiting as well to get it
Pls drift irl
That would be insane
@@AyoSharkyyeah
Goosiest!! I have been a fan of you since 500k subs, i love your vids im actually sim drifting and racing because of u i have a pxn v9
Moza is changing the game its awesome i love my R5 it slaughters my g29 and any belt dive out there i highly recommend the moza R5 and Fanatec csl dd but rmoza has better build quality and same same performance pretty much no plastic just metal and a WAY nicr quick release is nice period so glad i chose moza
i went with the fanatec tbh, the ecosystem of all the parts, the prices for wheels and accessories, fanatecs tuning menu and the native wheel support in games can't be overlooked. They're both at a great price and i can get the boost pack whenever too add that little bit more feel if i need to. In the end, the customer always wins with competition
@@andrewdeer6836 I think theyre both amazing and while im saving up for a DD (ultimately my first wheel) I cant help but be torn at which to get. On one hand Fanatec is doing great but its like theyre still in the 90's with their logistical and manufacturing issues. They have HUGE logistical and manufacturing issues to the point where I was going to end up going with moza.
Fanatecs Issues:
Bunch of boxes for one setup. Horrible if you're expecting to get all your stuff in time or if you live in a neighborhood that isn't great (where people will see a bunch of big boxes being deliver to your place. + too many stories of everything gets delivered except for the QR system that somehow got lost and is delayed 2 weeks to a month making the whole thing unplayable
Which the QR....almost as egregious as Logitechs wheel prices. They are now phasing out QR1 but in the implementation of the QR2 they are charging a fairly premium price to roll out the Q2s. For example: If I wanted to buy the 5nm csl dd bundle on a budget as in, buy it lower the torque until I can afford proper rig and buy the cheapest QR and lower torque to like 2.2 to reduce shaft flex then I literally cannot do that because you dont have the option to get the free QR1 lites that came with the bundle. Today on 10/24 if you want to get a csl dd bundle you will HAVE to basically buy the QR2 system for an additional 110 at the least (or was it like 150 to get both pieces I forget). Which means that even though the cheapest csl dd bundle is being marketed for 400 without the boost kit it is actually 500 to get the most updated QR system. Of course you can buy the QR1 metal piece but....like why would you do that you might as well bite the bullet and go for the one that will overfall fix the biggest issues with this bundle which is the flex that can ultimately lead to the failure of the device.
With that being said I'm still going fanatec. and Thats because of ALL of those IMMENSE issues going on with the lower end CSL DD bundles it still doesnt have the one major dealbreaking issue that moza has right now
Mozas issues:
Overheating of the motor.....lol
mb kind of a long reply but I've been doing so much research on these products lately and felt like nerding out especially if people might be torn between the moza and fanatec
The 3rd Car... VF SS... That's the same as my car!
LS3 6.2ltr V8 and T56 6 speed Manual (both Corvette parts).
It's possibly the best Sedan ever made here in Australia.
And it really feels like it's made for the Adelaide Hills.
This is the 7th day in a row watching your videos.
Subscribed!
Love your style mate
GOOSIEST NUMBER 1 SIM DRIVER
ALWAYS!
@@Goosiest Drifter
Settings on carx and for the r3 would be a lifesaver. I’m so frustrated with not knowing/ getting so many different opinion on UA-cam
While racing I've noticed i'll turn my FFB up, drifting i'll lower it a lot so I don't have to fight the wheel soo much. Makes it easier to correct my line. Using the 8nm CSL DD.
Hi goose. Wait this video is so helpful I actually want to get into this stuff but I don’t want to spend way to much money
@Goosiest IMAGINE R21 AT YOUR DESK ON 100% FORCE FEEDBACK AND YOU CRASH IN THE AC SHUTOKU MAP. IF YOU HOLD THE R21 BEFORE CRASHING AND NOT GETTING YOUR HANDS OF THE WHEEL, UR GOING TO FLY RIGHT OUT OF YOUR WINDOW😂
I will buy Thrustmaster T248 set because it have 3 pedals and cost only 350€, bit used is 250€
Hopefully they make a pc and playstation budget wheel soon, thats the 1 i want
I think I found a wheel for when I get my first of setup !!
Goose you should make a compilation of carx servers lag
When o saw this video on my fyp I thought it was like 3 days ago or something but I watched a video on goosiest from 3 days ago and the video was amazing btw👌💯
The r3 gives the illusion of being tiny, great video though!
Gooisiest is the king of drifting
Moza R3=World's Cutest DD wheelbase.
Your my favorite drift youtuber, You inspired me to get a wheel and to try and start drifting ( im getting the wheel soon)
YOO TYSM GOOSE
there is no way goosiest just replied.
hearted*
i hope i get my wheel soon though.
3:23 you jynx yourself lol❤
Goose drifting irl? YES PLS!!
Great vídeo! I m from Brazil and subscribe your channel, i Love your videos. CONGRATULATIONS for you great work. ❤
bro is the best youtuber rn i love your videos!!! keep it up
I love your vids your my favorite youtuber. You got me into CarX
Blud really said “Budget” with $399 on the screen 💀
For a dd it is the cheapest your gonna get
$399 is cheap for a DD. back then they were way more
i love goose man video👍😎
Bro the CarX Lag is kind of random because CarX is such a Popular Game Its gotta have to fix the "Lag" issue. They Clearly have to step it up a notch because users/people cannot play with this much lag and its also so random like your in a tandem and lag happens than you crash to eachother it just ruins the tandem and also whn you said 'No Lag' then your game lagged its almost like the game heard you lol. Cool video!
Goose you really said the magic word [ No Lag ]
lovin ur vids keep it up
Appreciate it!
congratulations man
*me watching goosiest having the best gaming setup ever while my setup is an iPad*
Great video! I have an Xbox Wheel but no Handbrake or Shifter and only two pedals. But good for £120
Fair enough!
@@Goosiest I may send you a picture if possible
This is awesome! Keep spirit Goosiest buddy 😊😊😁😁
Thanks! Will do!
7:28 broo, why i laughed for this xD
@Goosiest btw i bought the moza R12 last week and I’m not even using half of the power what it has. I shouldn’t buy moza r12. I should bought the moza racing r3 or r5.
goosiest you must make a video where you do clean drifting no talking.
Kristaps old car bribgs back memories
So the reason to get a higher powered wheel is higher dynamic range. Meaning far more detail. A r9 will feel better than the r5 when set at 5nm because it has 4 extra nm and thus causes the r9 to have a higher dynamic range when detecting frequencies related to Force feedback than the r5. So im planning on a R12. SRP loadcell pedals, KS wheel and CSv2 wheel. With my curent thrustmaster TH8a shifter and handbrake. I will only ever use 3 to 6nm when drifting. But racing or rally i will be using 10 to 12nm. Those forces are a different game when racing and not drifting.
Moza R3 is probably what I am getting next once I master my skills, just got a G920, first time driving with a wheel too, got a long road ahead, I am a pretty weak person so 2.1nm is already heavy imagine almost 4nm in a DD wheel haha…
its a good day when goosiest pose a vid😄😄
Another good vid goose keep it up =)
Thanks! 😁
@@Goosiesthello goose :)
@@GoosiestLove ur content ❤
Good video as always keep it up❤️
your my fav UA-camr
i think the r3 is for normal steering and the r21 if you want to train your arms
That 2 pedal setup will be usefull in two thing: Formula and Gt racing
technically you still need the clutch for starting the race
@@polar_inertia in real life formulas does have only 2 pedals
Unless I see their R5 bundle for a good price, I think I found my first steering wheel 😂
I’ll mainly use it for BeamNG and Dirt but man I can’t wait to finally have a setup for streaming.
pro sim drifter number 3
@6:39 oh man! Goosiest just witnessed a Four car crashed! R.I.P racers ➕
Small size = MORE POWAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
I'm so happy
I think i might be able to help setup your r9 for forza because mine works and i got the same steering wheel too. Kind of a bummer that direct drive support is horrible in games like the crew 2
2:12 Tenrifle diasaster recreated
Question for gossiest: Why do u love drifting (Answer my Question gossiest)
Is fun
Thx ☺️
Awesome video as always
On Fanatec's Direct Drive wheel there is a slider in the software called FFI Force Feedback Intensity. Drop that by 10% and 90% of what I don't like about BeamNG on a wheel goes away.
Gooseiest why you dont use outro?
BTW Big Fan❤️❤️
Lets appreciate goosiest work❤❤❤❤❤ keep it up
I like your channel❤❤❤your funny😂😂😂
Talented and nice❤❤❤❤❤🎉
THIS IS HUGE!! I might be getting this wheel now! 😆
You should try rc drifting!
I got the G27 (it's manual and comes with 3 pedals etc) for less than half the price of the R3. Only thing is i got it used but i got mine in peak condition, nothing was wrong with it whatsoever. it was about $120 and i got a free Xbox & PS4 USB converter with it
Did anyone notice the song “The Chase” by Basix started playing as soon as he said “time for me to chase”
Isn't the CSL DD cheaper and more powerfull, I mean 5Nm, up to 8Nm? I know, that the pedals are more expensive tho!
have not tried it yet
That boy in the asseto Is represents the Czech Republic❤❤❤
i can't wait to get my G29 and start playing some games
bruh i see this after ordering a whole logitech g923 setup for christmas
Its kinda funny how you get sent a bunch of wheels but continue to use the t300
bro you said budget wheel😂
400 is good asf for a wheel. You won’t find anything better than that
love u goosiest
goosiest u should attempt to make a project car out of the BMW E36 it would be really gud content
HEY GOOSE! i know you my not answer this, but, i got a g29 a while ago, absolutely hated it btw, worst mistake of my life trying to get into sim racing with a g29. So, say i have a 1,000 dollar total budget and want to get into sim drifting. What wheel, pedals, and shifter would you recommend? LMK if you can, thanks goose! EDIT: i have an ebay handbrake, but its meh, so maybe if there is some space in the budget you give me, throw a good handbrake in. EDIT 2, I plan on playing forza, WRC 10, beamg, and carx with the wheel. EDIT 3: I have a thinner table, so... if that effects anything lmfao.
Nice wheel love your content
Appreciate it!
Hey goose you are my favourite UA-camr keep up the good work
Hey, thanks!
No problem
YOU ARE THE BEST DRIFT UA-camR
New vid from he legendary goose
Huge fan bro love all your ideas!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thrustmaster ftw
In Los Angeles some people also call it the R Tree.
I think it would be cool if u tried some rally games like dirt rally 2.0 or wrc generations
I LOVE THE GOOSE
more expensive wheel bases are just more precise
Looks like a Toy Wheel Base
This is the answer to a budget fanatec
Update: I’m starting to get really impatient with them delaying the wheel, if it doesn’t come in until the end of march, I’m switching to fanatec instead
How'd the Fanatec order go
YOOO! My PXN V10 wheel i bought was absolute trash and broke at the 3rd week. some time later i might buy this wheel!
tbh th wheels work so well with forza for example because some of those wheels are licensed by microsoft
You are the best UA-camr in the whole World❤❤❤❤
Goosiest this is a robbery give me your wheel
might buy it looks pretty cool
I'm looking for something super cheap but good to see if I want to really get into sim anything. It takes me a while to save money so I dont want to spend it on a "budget" wheel and not like the hobby enough to keep at it regularly to justify the cost.