RIP to Toyota Reliability? Major Tundra Engine Failures
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Nearly 100,000 2022-2023 Toyota Tundras are being recalled for potential engine failures. Here's what's going on.
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What do you think Toyota should have done with the 3rd gen Tundra?
Make the 1UR-FSE 4.6L with port and direct injection the base engine and then add direct injection to the 5.7 making it a 3UR-FSE and have that be the upgrade engine. Mate them to the 10-speed and have the hybrid optional on the 4.6 for every trim and optional on the 5.7 for the TRD Pro. Simple as that.
They Should Have Kept Simplicity ,Reliability And Longevity As Their Focus ! And Keep American Engineers away from any designing of it ! PERIOD ! The Company As a whole will never be what it once was !
Modernize the 3UR-FE and bring it back!
@@AlexKosanovich Keep American engineers away and use all Japan sourced parts if they want better reliability.
Dude, do you honestly believe this due to engine debris. Manufacturing material left in the engine both in the US and Japan, This is a flawed design.
No one loves turbochargers more than I do, but there are places where V8 engines are best suited. Trucks that tow are one of them.
As a proud owner of a turbo car, I totally agree!
Blame climate change folks.
I tow with a TTV6 hybrid truck and a straight turbo truck. Both of these powertrains work fantastic and are actually better performers than my V8s.
@@cwqrpportable the new V6 in Toyotas is powerfully but a few things need to be revised. Engines have been improved and tech making it better. So I agree with you. People think V8 is everything. But I have seen some V6 that are much better than some V8s without turbo.
Most tundra owners weren't towing with these trucks. They are low mileage queens. Imagine driving 10k miles a year and saying you like it because it can go a million miles. It would only take 100 years.
The guy in this video is correct. The real problem is NOT related to metal shavings. We all know Toyota will not admit a serious design flaw because it would lead to a class action lawsuit. To me, the real reason they are not installing a long block is because they know the new long block is STILL going to have the same problems. The problem is that STRANGE cradle below the motor that holds the crankshaft bearings. This engine should have separate 4-bolt bearing caps like you would see in a LS Chevy V8 engine. I realize that a Mercedes V8 has a big cradle that holds the bottom bearing caps. I saw Ford V6 turbo also has the weird cradle but Fords cradle has more stiffeners and more webbing. The issue is not metal shavings. Soon, enough mechanics will determine precisely why the engine is failing.
I agree with your assessment that the problem being with the cradle, and I think the thin oil used in the engine along with turbocharging increased the potential for failure.
Damn u know a lot.... and I agree with u
Apparently it is the front bearing that is the failure point on the cradle. Toyota won't admit anything due to protecting themselves. Toyota's years of R&D testing doesn't appear to have been applied to the cradle and now it will cost them dearly!
Toyota new tacoma and tundra is dead
Not true entirely. Specifically seen issues directly related to this even way before the recall. With replacement blocks sent to dealer "multiple" before a good block was found. So this isn't true. Other problems do exist thought
No replacement for displacement.............old gearhead statement.
Physics 101 bro......
Adding twin turbos with more plastics is the worst thing tayota has ever done 😂😂😂
L😂L
Ford has a very dialed in 3.5 litre twin turbo engine that performs very well and get much better mpg than a Tundra. I feel the engineers at toyota have lived on old technology they are struggling to advance .
Diminished value of all existing trucks impacted by this recall. Who would buy a used truck with a recall of the engine requiring extensive work or replacement.
Is that your problem??
At a time when money is tight reliability is King too bad Toyota didn't get that.
There was a bad engine design in the Celica, that was the year Toyota stopped producing the Celica. I expect the same demise is in store for the low volume Tundra.
I personally think it's an engineering problem, not a debris problem. Because online everybody that's talking about engines that blew it always seems to be the main bearing that fails in everyone. I would think if it's debris in the engine. It would cause other damage than just to the main bearings.
Yep, mine blew almost a year ago at 28,000. After a six month ordeal with the nonexistent Toyota customer service I finally got my Lemon Law buyback check. The debris issue is nonsense. If this was the case, why are Lexus SUVs experiencing the same issue with blocks that are made in Japan. Just more cover-up lies from Toyota. They were forced to make this recall based on several near death accidents, and the fact that there’s a class action lawsuit in the works. They couldn’t cover this up any longer.
10/10 for the Trailer Park Boys Reference, especially since it's a Canadian channel.
Way she goes
Just in time production is so inflexible that the 10-speed transmissions in these Tundras are backordered for the very few that have transmission failure.
Here in the middle east, they love their Toyota land cruisers, and LX500. So many guys have been having their engines crap out. Its the same engine as the Tundra, also they have cooling issues to where these new land cruisers are over heating. So many will run aftermarket radiators in their new landcruisers.
I have heard of stories of engine failures on the LC300s and LX600s, but other than the design issue it can also be because the locals thrash them very badly that at one pound they usually give up...
You also have to remember that the major reason that all manufacturers are moving away from the V8 is because of EPA mandated emission control. It wasn't something that they just decided to do on their own. In order to remain competitive in the segment, they couldn't afford to take the additional penalty costs and taxes that would be added to the vehicle if they didn't comply with these standards. Back when GM and other manufacturers started doing DoD and AFM, it was to avoid the penalties from the EPA that would have added to the sale price of their vehicles and made them less competitive, pricewise, against the competition.; If you really want to get upset about the demise of the V8's, blame the EPA and their mandates. I had to get a new vehicles recently, and I decided to get a 24 $runner before the new generation goes to the IForce turbo 4 cylinder, because I can almost guarantee it is going to have issues as well. The other issue, not being talked about here is, the longevity of forced induction engines may or may not be as good as their NA equivalent. I suppose only time will tell. Probably won't matter soon, since we will all be forced into EV's sooner or later anyway. Cheers.
I agree and have said before the manufacturers need to band together and push back on the EPA, so they can build their products in a way that has proven to be reliable.
EPA has done more damage to this country than most folks know.
Corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) yep that’s to improve emissions but maybe you don’t know about it really maybe you just take whatever is said to you without thinking?
The new CAFE standards mandate that all new passenger vehicles in the United States improve fuel economy by 2% annually from 2027, reaching approximately 50.4 miles per gallon by 2031. For light trucks, the standards require NO increase in 2027-2028 but call for a 2% annual increase from 2029 to 2031. Maybe you don’t understand that CAFE is a manufacturers fleet it’s used in it’s calculation. So say a vehicle maker wants to make a vehicle with a v8 a real gas guzzler bad on emissions can they do it? Sure !! Because they make enough 4cl enough hybrids and some electric vehicles they add them up in total that’s the fleet and sure enough they meet the standard to have a v8.
The real reason for manufacturers to go from v8 to 6cyl turbo from 6cyl to 4cyl turbo is because it saves money for them !! And because it’s a turbo it makes them more money because the engine is more complicated meaning they are the ones to do maintenance and repair not you !! Also do you think that a vehicle maker had no stake in anything else automotive? A turbo requires more oil changes who do you think owns shares in oil production?
Vehicles are made for less with poorer quality it’s their greed and your stupidity because you’ll keep buying and they’ll have you believe it’s everyone from here to the man on the moon who’s screwing you and you’ll believe it because you want to believe it !!
Agreed. And the other truly greedy aspect is, while adhering to the EPA requirements to "avoid" penalties as a manufacturer, the cost of these vehicles still keeps going up as if the ARE paying those penalties.
Big Government strikes again!
"I told you so"!
I love my 2013 tundra, got the 5.7 V8 and I have had no issues whats so ever, it's amazing what happens when you properly maintain your vehicles
Except very bad MPGs.
Nobody got what they wanted with the 3rd gen tundra except toyota charging more for less
Such a valid point!
Beautiful MR2 back there, i miss mines.
I'm keeping my 2019 4runner, put Bilst4600 shocks Falken wild peaks at3w and frame treated my Retirement vehicle only 37,000 miles
Although the V8 was reliable, it was too thirsty for this economy. Something had to be done. Maybe adding more gears and offering optional hybrid on that V8 would've cut it.
Not voluntary at all. When so many dealerships had to take these trucks back under lemon law, they had to do something. Anyway, Toyota and first buyers are screwd
Toyota will extend the engine warranty. That is the only logical and $ fix. This will give them time to do this.
I ll stick to my Honda Ridgeline...
I considered the Ridgeline. Now, I laugh every time I pull beside one with my 2018 Tundra CrewMax Limited. Love the legroom in my truck
@@johnroy4803 I considered the Ridgeline too..when I pull up with my 5.7V8 , I still admire the Honda design
Nothing was wrong with the 5.7 V-8 motor . My 2018 Tundra 4X4 has been thru hell and it's still running like new . And it's paid for .
2009, 5.7 lasted 13 years and nothing wrong, just upgraded to 2014 5.7, still not a problem!
There's something to say about what works!
But in Toyota's defense, they practice Kaizen to a fault, so if something moves left and not right, then nani des ka?
I lived in Japan for over a decade, so I am quite familiar with the Japanese phsyce. They're almost too efficient for their own good sometimes!
Nobody remembers the crankshafts blowing up engines the first year of the 2nd gen tundra? 2007?
Old long time rule NEVER BUY THE FIRST OR SECOND YEARS OF ANY NEW MODELS OF ANY VEHICLES THERES ALWAYS BUGS TO WORK OUT!!!
Local dealer here in HI
Was wondering about their future!
Engine debris narrative a sham. Faulty design, period. My message to Toyota: "Take-Off, HOSERS!!" FYI, it looks like it's actually 1% of the 100K trucks recalls have actually had failures (1,000 trucks) so that puts it into perspective (if it's true). Still unacceptable and who knows when their 2022-23 Tundra is going to take a dump? Reportedly, some of the affected units have had to be fixed 2 and 3 times! This sucks!
They are definitely working on it. Give em a chance!
They will not include current model years because they would have to issue a stop sale. Does anyone know if the hybrid gas engine is built on a separate assembly line or plant?
Saw your Scotty Kilmer is wrong video from 9 months ago. Scotty was right Gearhead.... Can't question a lifetime mechanic. Nothing personal! I'm a Toyota owner as well!
He just posted an oil change video where he used a Fram filter and tightened the drain bolt with a breaker bar. I think everyone should be questioning him lol
toyota needs to get rid of their engineering crew
Is this the same for the 24''s?
Ya think the used v8 Tundras will go up in value now as there will be more demand for them?
I don't think they'll go up necessarily but I think they'll hold strong without depreciating too much
Is that an MR2 in your garage? I had a 1993 2.0 16v GT when I was back in England. What a car!
Wait.. so you and I both have a glacier white frontier pro 4x 2023, we both love Jesus AND your from England too?! There no way bro.. this is getting too weird. 😅
@@jc6618 "Did we just become friends?" 😄
Mistakes may happen at any time, what happened does not mean Toyota not reliable , it happens with all car manufacturers. it happened before with BMW, Mercedes, VW, Audi etc, some even did not admit or recall it .Toyota will handle it very well, they care a lot about their reputation, and they definitely will recall cars and fix it, and done.
5.7L engine with 10 speed transmission. That is what we need Toyota.
I think they would have been forced to do the recall because it was deemed a safety issue. They knew it and just beat the order to do it. Trying to save face.
Yeah, it took Ford 3 generations to get the V6 turbo correct. This is Toyotas first gen. I was saying this when they debut this engine that it's gonna take them couple generations to get it right. No one listened.
Last good trucks are always a V8 with 5.7L & must have a 6 speed transmission.
Made in USA. San Antonio. There are no Tundras in Japan.
Understand folks recall says may have debris. Doesn’t mean all of them have debris . Toyota sold 95K units in 22 with 75 failures and in 23 they sold 125K with only 10 failures. Very low considering units sold . Really look in to what you’re saying bud. A lot of tundras running just fine with no issues.
I've had no problems with my 2022. You can go on car gurus and see plenty of 2022, 23 Tundras that have well over 100k miles.
I feel like you could do a really good flush to get that out... something deff is fishy
6/11/24 - I too am a Toyota Loyal customer
But Not to Toyota turbo anything
I will Only consider non turbo 2022 and prior models
Naturally Aspirated my go to engines
So much to think about:
- bad design
- poor design
- don't care design
Yea more than just debris shavings sludge etc
Considering what it takes to make a turbo work
What durable quality reliable material used to
Make toyota turbo engines
MTGA
"Make Toyota Great Again"
"Bat Shite CrAzY"
This makes me love my 2007 V8 4Runner even more
They should try a straight V6 instead but ling gone and the supra was a V6 straight just saying
If these new Toyota vehicles came with regular V4, V6 and V8 engines I would have already bought a Tundra or Land Cruiser. Could these new turbo hybrid engines be the end of Toyota’s reliability and longevity? Toyota’s reputation for longevity and reliability could be coming to an end with these very troublesome engines. For the first time in 40 years I can honestly say with confidence that I don’t trust Toyota’s new hybrid turbo engines.
I'm so bummed because my goal was to finally be able to buy a brand new truck. It being a Toyota. Because I know how reliable their engines can be. Uugghhh
These truck manufacturers are making engines overly complicated and only getting a mile or two per gallon better fuel economy at the expense of longevity. I know the government has their hands in this too but what is worse for the environment, making a truck that lasts for 20 years a gets 20 mpg or making one that lasts 8 and gets 22 mpg? I think the manufacturers are trying to maintain their ESG scores along with government pressure are just trying to steer your average customer away from big trucks and leave the truck buying to businesses and the self employed who can justify spending the money on a solid 3/4 ton truck or larger with better engines. So with all this being said this will affect the boat and rv industry at some point in the future. You wont be able to tow what you want and go where you want. If you have a V8 half ton you had better baby it for as long as you can.
Nobody who uses a full size truck for truck stuff wants one with a v6. Keep that stuff in small trucks and it’s fine but no they screwed them up too with 4 cylinders.
It's gonna get a lot worse before it becomes better. Like most things.
I need a squirrel update.
Squirrel showed a high level of resilience and appears to be ok 😂
The 2024’s with a “blown” engine could be related,to the recal. Might not be. Waterlocked? Wrong oil? Driving way too aggressive? Low oil? Who knows. Any of the 24’s on the tundras forums haven’t been verified. Sometimes trolls post that their 24 blew up. So far it’s mostly 22 and 23’s?
Toyota. "Oh, what a feeling. "
This is a SAFETY recall? If you are STOPPED in the middle of the freeway, that is a safety issue. Hybrids can still move if the gas engine fails.
DON'T BUY a Toyota product, period. Problem solved!
Not the first bad toyota engine. Its the first bad toyota v6 engine.
At $60k- $70k I would bust into a toyota plant, with some special words...I understand no car is perfect and toyota recalls are not a rarity, but $60k to some topping out at $80k, bro hell no.
There is no replacement for displacement. V8. Period. It's getting attention because it's a problem. And it's not a new engine. It's been out but notnin toyota. In lexus. Smart company. It's a manufacturing issue. Period.
The Tacoma engine was designed by an American engineer. Not sure about the Tundra.
Keep dreaming, they will never put the excellent 5.7 with their never transmission
Manufacturers had problems in the 80's with turbo engines, American and European
Good job San Antonio assembly.
Put those made in America stickers proudly in the back window.
The same thing is happening to the Japanese ones
Toyota Dealers are starting to NOT accept 22,23,24 in trade…LEMON
Love to put my 5.7 engine into one of those body
Toyota Turbo Charged V6's are safe and effective. -Wikipedia
Even if they swap the V8 into the latest Tundra, the turning radius is shyt so it still would be terrible taking them overlanding and on trails
Dude, these $70-$80,000 trucks are used as grocery-getters. They’re by not leaving the pavement.
@@livingadreamlife1428 All the more reason to not get them, buying a Mazda CX or any other SUV is more comfortable and more suitable for shopping. Heck a minvan or wagon even better
Thanks for the info, I just got a 2024, I hope that I don’t run into any problems
This is not a new engine door knob
Nissan frontier FTW
Toyota should take it to the chin and offer to buy the affected trucks back. If not, people should lawyer up and enforce the lemon law.
There is an old American saying.Don't fix what's not broken, just because something new comes out doesn't mean it's better.I don't fall for that crap.
Quality issue. Yes, even assembly line workers don’t give a damn.😅
Toyota shills please listen. I am a toyota owner myself!
DEMAND a new engine and stop letting them use band aids. If they refuse to comply dump it on the used market, push for lemon law/buyback, and let the Executives figure out how they are going to recoup the lossed for being greedy dogs.
They arent gonna fix it. Any truck with a turbo is just dumb.
Keep in mind it’s only 1% of the Tundras being recalled has their been a problem. I think most owners of a 22’ or 23’ will be just fine.
Ummm no…it’s every single vehicle made with that engine. The Tundra and the Lexus SUV.
You think they sold 10million of these turds😂
That's not what he's saying. He's saying 1% of the recalls have failed.
When I heard metal shaving I just laughed my ass off, what a bare faced lie.
Arent they made in Mexico now?!
Simple, they need to shorten the vehicle life cycle. If the all the vehicles are too good and reliable no one gonna buy new one. This is the direction Toyota heading to.
Toyota Is Following The Big 3's Motto Build Overpriced Underquality Pieces Of Crap And Call It New & Improved. Junk
40 years of reliable well built autos with a few turds mixed in a long the way, and this is just another one of those turds that will get flushed soon. Hell people jump all over Toyota when they do have an issue that is just the Tundra. Not a word on all the other vehicles they have now that are doing well. Ford and GM been making crapper engines for the last 10 years with huge amounts of engine failures and you hear crickets. You people crack me up I will remind you of all this when this same engine becomes one of their bullet proof engines when they fix its issues. All that being said Toyota would be wide to pack up their bags in American and go back to building them in Japan they have so much better work ethic over there!
You are a Toyota Loyalist right? This is NOT old Toyota of the past anymore...
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 I am not any brand loyalist I have brands I have liked over the years. I am simply pointing out this is NOT a bad engine design its one of those somebody screwed up damages and people act like the entire brand has went to crap when it has not. No it is not ideal for folks to get a bad vehicle of any type, but to trash the entire brand over something that has happened during the manufacturing process is stupid. Machines are made by people and people make mistakes. In this case not getting all the metal shavings out from the machining process. Then engines that have not bee contaminated have not been bad and have been really reliable since they corrected the waste gate issue. Once they find out how they got contaminated and get that corrected these will probably be very good engines. If they find a flaw Toyota has always been known to fix the flaws and keep perfecting the engines over time and no the brand is not doomed they have many different models that have been rock solid.
It takes decades and decades to make something great. Only a few years for the ignorant to destroy it all. 😂😂
What car we going to get because they all are crappies
That's the plan... obsolescence.
ITS ALL ABOUT EMISSIONS. THE GOVERNMENT PUSHING BETTER AND CLEANER ENGINES. TOYOTA HAS TO COMPLY. SO THEY COME OUT WITH THE V6 TURBOS. CHEERS
They could have used a diesel engine however, chief engineer Mike Swears was told no when he went to Japan. It now takes 3 years to get a diesel certification. So, that's why Toyota is using a 3.4 liter engine in the Tundra.
Not good
NoYOTA
Wheres the Rav 4 made??
In the USA or Canada maybe both and a few are imported from Japan.
They have dealers not accepting them as trade ins
That's true
I kiss my 2020 every morning because I chose her over waiting for the new 2022. When I heard that the 2022 power train would be a turbo six cylinder I decided to get a 5.7 V8 before they were gone. Glad I did now!
Did the same
I did the same too 😊
2021 tundra cement trail edition loving it
You all are smart folks and did the right thing!
The old saying “no replacement for displacement” comes to mind.
But the displacement is almost the same!
As long time builder of American muscle, I disagree with the displacement theory, I'll take a SBF and smoke a big block in the ¼ all day long!
It's trying to make the government, tree huggers and other non truck drivers happy and voila, this is the result!
The fix is to bring back the 5.7👍🏼
This was my assessment as well. People act like Toyota has all these replacement engines just sitting in a warehouse ready to go and they'd be without their truck for a few days. Waiting list is more like it.
Ive been a LONG TIME Toyota fanboy, i mean. Look at my profile name. I am really disappointed in Toyota. Their general quality has been going down for multiple years. I'd say since around 2018 heavily. I was a salesman at a Toyota dealership in Denver between 2017 and 2020, you could just feel the quality go down between releases of new models. They got more, "Tech". But lost that general robustness Toyota was known for. Plastics got even cheaper, engines got noisier. I noticed it heavily when the Highlander got updated in late 2019. The last gen was behind the times, sure. But dang, it was SMOOTH for a family hauler. The materials were sturdy, the engine/transmission combo was like butter. The new generation looks nice, but in my opinion material quality dropped tremendously. And they were not as comfortable. The shift in quality was apparent. I just told myself, its a Toyota so whatever. Well, as all of their newer models are aging, there have been a decent amount of complaints regarding drivetrains across multiple models. These are the newest to the list. Their 8 speed has been known to be "underfilled" from the factory leading to transmission problems and failures. This happened with the Tacoma and Rav4s. The newer rav4 engine is LOUD as heck. Compared to the older generations, its a lawnmower. I feel like Toyota hit its 21st century peak in the late 2000s-early 2010s. Enough technology, mostly great Powertrains.
I've owned a 2006 Solara, 2001 Celica, 1999 Camry, 2009 ES350, and a 2000 Corolla in the past, all of which brought more than 200k miles on their original powertrains. The only ones that had any problems was the Corolla and Celica with oil burning. Die hard Toyota fan, and i know I'm not alone. Toyota has been a Trainwreck. Other brands are finding a way to build consistently improving cars in terms of reliability. Think Subaru and Mazda. Both of which have greatly improved their quality over the last 15 years. Lots of their recent powertrains are showing IMPROVEMENTS. Toyota is not doing the same. They're starting to do what Honda has done off and on through the 21st century, skate on their reputation and die hard fans who end up paying the price of their name.
I agree with you fully. This sadly is the case. I suspect newer Toyotas/Lexus (aside from the LC70 which has nearly ZERO airbags, safety features) might be largely the same as other brands. I am pretty sure the Fortuner might get the turbo engine from the 4runner and may have similar reliability problems...
I've had dismal failure with both of my Toyotas (2019 Tacoma TRD Pro & my current 2023 Tundra SR) The interior is falling apart and just does not feel quality, my dealer here in Edmonton is lack luster, with that I am out and going to look at either settling with my old Power Stroke Diesel and save a payment or trade it in on a 5.0L F150 (which I should I have done in the first place) The newer engines are probably more emissions compliant and allow for more packaging in a larger line up in their feet. Either way I am disappointed with Toyota and will find another brand here soon! Good Convo!
I think the F150 with a Coyote 5.0 is one of the last good options out there
The best truck engine currently is the Ford 7.3L Godzilla. It's just less fuel efficient than the 5.0L and being only in the Super Duty doesn't help fuel economy. The Coyote is an amazing engine tho so you can't go wrong there.
Edit: Skipped the fact you have a Powerstroke. Even the 6.0 is an awesome truck I'd keep that and be payment free.
I had a Tacoma TRD pro for a week on a rental..it make an absolutely insane amount of noise on the highway. I'm pretty sure there was something wrong with its engine - it only has 12000 miles on it
@@vijayrk7329 Was it the 2024?
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 The 7.3 Godzilla has lifter problems at the moment. The Coyote has a belt driven oil pump and cylinder deactivation. I suspect the 6.6 L8T is a better engine than either of those two. No AFM/DFM, and no major issues on a large scale.
The hybrid engine goes to another line and has a lot of processes it goes through. And only 824 engines have documented warranty work out of 300,000 trucks sold since 2022
Glad I got the hybrid
I have the hybrid, and want to know more. Where did you find this info?
They are hybrids with blown engines also
From what I heard. They’re not worried about the hybrids at the moment because if the engine goes, you have battery backup. I just bought a sequoia 6 day’s before this recall. 🙄
I also heard the recall is up to 300000 now.
Where's the quality control with Toyota? As an employee for Honda Canada we do a quality control where we examine one in every few hundred engines for such issues and others!
When I worked there they used to do something similar, not sure if they still do
It’s design flaw not quality control. Same issue with same motor in other cars they put it like Lexus lx.
Did Toyota not test these new engines before mass production? That mistake should never be made...especially by Toyota!
The confusing thing to me is by blaming machining practices, it insinuates it’s an issue with the Tundra motor manufacturer in the US. But the LX600, same motor manufactured in Japan, is included in the recall. Both plants are having the same “metal shavings” problem on opposite sides of the planet?
If they admit it’s a flaw in their engineering design, they now owe you a new engine. It would be an easy class action lawsuit so they have to blame it on the “process”
It’s design flaw. But if it wasn’t for climate change pressure V8 should have remained.
@mathyoubuggin the engines are made in the same plant the vehicles are assembled in different plants
That's an intersting fact that screams BS from the manufacturer! Why hasn't anyone else talked about that??
Both sides of the planet us the same computer controlled machines. The software that runs them has the same software writers. They have the same problem.
Should’ve never touched the v8.
Imagine the new gen tundra with the reliable v8 and the creature comforts.
Keeping my 2020 5.7 and just bought a 4runner 4.0 limited knowing the new one is on the way and don't have high hopes for it.