Hello! (1Bridgeyboo here) Thanks for discussing the idea I posed in the comments. I'm really glad more people are going to discuss this type of thing. Thanks for the video, and stay safe! ^^
Fans need to stop making Fan Games, and just create Fan Mods which are easier to slip under the radar and under fair-use... if there isn't a game to mod. Create a "spiritual successor" / clone game with your own assets... then create a reskin mod for it. Steamworkshop is great for that. Minecraft has the Pixelmon mod, its highly rated in the community, lets players play Pokemon in Minecraft.
Also, my opinion as to why Nintendo randomly stomps on fanmade things was always because they had bad experiences with allowing others to handle their works, so they just don't trust anyone. Look at before the Mario Movie we don't really talk about and then afterwards. Now, look if any of the companies mentioned in the video that do encourage others to create whatever they want. They have a huge difference.
Something that is worth pointing out is that most fangames that got DMCA'd were projects that *(coincidentally)* were similar to something Nintendo was planning to announce in the near-future. _Now somebody needs to make a F-Zero fangame, and if they don't take it down _*_we'll know that the franchise is dead for sure_*
@@christonadams9046 honestly the safest thing for Nintendo to do would be to never release Mother 3 overseas and leave the fan translation. We've had the fan translation for so long now (and it's a damn good translation) that whatever localazation changes the team decides to make would be met with huge backlash from its fans, or alternatively if they don't change enough then SJWs will surely find things to cry about in the game, leading to controversy either way.
@@TheRealBatabii Situation with Super Mario 64 is much more complicated. It contains pieces of code and resources stolen from Nintendo during the leak. So, Nintendo lawyers are going to seek criminal prosecution, and not just blocking it.
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@UA-camr-xi6qo i hope you are trolling or joking because it's like if someone cloned your entire house and then made some changes (in a world where that's illegal without your permition) but you just let him do that (basically givin him permition) and then someone called you a criminal... ඞ
Nintendo seems to remove and take down fan projects if they coincide with a project Nintendo took down the recent mario 64 PC port Rumors are going around about Mario rereleases for the switch including Mario 64 *HMMMMM*
@Horizonshot there are good mario/ Nintendo fanworks out there! The most recent example is the super Mario 64 pc port (yes I tried it and it was awesome!). I just don't like that Nintendo is going after a lot of fan projects, while Sega being pretty chill about it. Nintendo even went after dreams creations, while Sega didn't bother at all. I still played a few mario official games on wii and fan games and I enjoyed them, but yeah I don't like Nintendo's attitude towards the fan projects.
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Maybe you should Imagine people making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
What sucks is that Nintendo has so many cool properties they never use but the minute a fan makes a passion project (that they usually don't profit of) about one of those properties they get taken down immediately.
Crazy that Nintendo would want people to pay money for their games and pay their employees rather than having their IP freely distributed because that's what it's about, right? It's either let other people sell all your stuff and pocket the money or give away all your stuff for free seems like. Nothing unreasonable about that.
@@hekatetrivia1727 That's only half right, since nobody's claiming that Nintendo needs to give away all their products for free, they're saying that games like Uranium which are completely free shouldn't get taken down when they naturally aren't going to sell as much as Nintendo's other offerings.
I am so sick of people using the "Sega makes bad games, so their acceptance of fan games doesn't count" argument whenever someone brings up Sega in this topic. Regardless of how bad Sega games are today, it's still proof that game companies can coincide with fanworks, with positive results. They aren't losing their copyrights, or anything like that. Nintendo and other companies can easily do the same thing, as long as the fanworks don't resemble ideas of their own.
First of all. Who would say sega makes bad games ? I mean there are other ips such as yakuza series, sakura wars, super monkey ball, puyo puyo tetris and the persona series. So sega just makes least good quality games unless if people are talking about sonic games. Then there's two divisions team who are incharge of the games development
What I don't understand is Nintendo fans using Sega as an example for them to bully Nintendo into doing what the fans want. You're not entitled to it even if it does make sense. I can understand objectively observing it makes more sense to open to fan work. But this complaining and bullying is just ... it's bullying.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, hen Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Nintendo: Fan games diminish the value of our brands Sega: *Literally pulls fans to make a game that turns to be a critical success and improves the image of the brand* Me: Sounds about right.
Sega the same company that drove their flagship characters into the ground only to be saved by fans, Atlus who makes Persona, and the team of the Yakuza games. Sega needs all the help it can get
Nintendo's Mario maker was based on a fangame they just do it to make money yeah mea. why does Nintendo just take down almost like anything while fans make there fangames and sadly Nintendo takes them down those fans did a lot of work to do this Also then what if fans make a paid for fangame where all the money goes to nintendo? Yet there's a remake of Mario 64 and I'm afraid that it might be token down which is bad. Nintendo only wants to make money some people just don't know how greedy Nintendo is.
Also, Nintendo was never the only company. Naughty Dog, Capcom, and Square Enix made take-downs that are just as bad as the ones from Nintendo or even worse. At least Nintendo won't attack you for calling them out. I just wish they could actually listen to the criticism, which would actually help them. Same with other companies.
this is gonna sound weird but im surprised they haven't taken down many of the nintendo p*rn games, when you think about it, isn't that more damaging to the property?
One thing we left out of the video: Nintendo once purchased the rights to a pair of "films for grown ups" (we were going to call them) to stop them from ever being released again.
I think because it’s not really a substitute for any official Nintendo games they probably are a bit more lenient on those. So long as Nintendo aren’t making porn games it doesn’t really matter if others are.
Dusty Stage plus there is so much pornographic content of their ips at this point that it would be a waste of time and resources to try taking it all down
This reminds me of a "recent" (I think 2-3 years ago) take down from Capcom for a remake of Resident Evil 2 made by an Italian group. There is actually a very good ending, because Capcom thanked them for their support by credited them in their RE2 Remake, plus the team could "remake the remake" by turning it into an original videogame (Daymare1998) with the moral support of Capcom and a more practice support from Paul Haddad, the original voice actor of Leon Kennedy from RE2 (who recently passed away). But, what's important is why they did that. And the reason is pretty simple: They were working on an actual Resident Evil 2 Remake. What I think is that Nintendo basically takes down fangames that got somewhat famous in the recent days, especially if they're an obstacle to projects very similar to what they're developing. I'm not saying they're working an a Mario 64 for PC, I really doubt this. In this case they're probably just defending their IP. But there some examples like the Super Metroid remake and the Mario Battle Royale one that got down also because Nintendo was planning to release something similar.
But then they also go out of their way to ban fan projects from awards and the like which just smacks of pettiness. They are downright callous to their fans while Capcom supported them despite the copyright claim.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
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Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, hen Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
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@@TheRealBatabii well no, we don't know that and a lot of them could be under fair use due to them always being free. but because they sue these ordinary people and court cases taking a whole lot of money, they never have to be able to prove in court if it ever broke any actual rules and they can just take it down by threatening creators with probably bankruptcy from the massive court costs, just because these people tried to make a free fan game.
Just Re-upload It And Defy That Laws Of... FASCISM. Fascism Is A Botched Abortion That Should Have Been Successful But Unfortunately Wasn't And Now Look Where We Are, Fascism Was Invented By AntiTheists And Almost Ended The World TWICE.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Edit: 1 year later, and I regret writing this. Opinions change, people. SEGA can still make good games, they just don't know how. Still, read the following wall of text at your own risk. My original comment: Woah there just a second kiddo. It’s true That SEGA allows fan-made stuff to exist, but be careful what you wish for. SEGA games as of now are pure garbagio, struggling to find an identity for themselves. Take the Sonic games for instance. They keep bringing back pointless characters that add no relevancy to the plot, and struggle to find a good balance between platforming and boost-to-win sections. Not to mention that the enemy AI sucks more than you can suck to the middle of a Tootsie Roll. Do you want that? Do you want Nintendo to fall into corporate failure like SEGA did? Do you wish upon yourself that Nintendo stop making good games such as Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Kirby, and much much more? Do you wish that our lord and savior: Masahiro Sakurai ditch the highly requested characters for Smash, such as Dante, Geno, that one Arms character, Sans UNDERTALE, Waluigi, and so much more just for another generic Fire Emblem character? I mean, not to say Byleth’s inclusion was bad or anything, but look at the roster. *8* Fire Emblem Characters. That’s on par with the Mario cast, which doesn’t include Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Wario by the way. Heck, Sakurai had the balls to add a freaking Piranha Plant to Smash, showing that he can make literally anything possible. What I’m saying is: Be careful what you wish for. Because kid, you don’t want to see what happens when Nintendo does what Nintendon’t.
@@thedx266 I definitely don't want Nintendo games to be on the level of the ones Sega makes, I just wish they would treat their fans with a little bit more respect.
Well ok so dont make games that are fan games but just the genre is another idea cause nintendo has no rights to platforming in general...only the ips they own...so you can have a game be "inspired" by a game but make it unique and not a fan game
*fan make a nice tribute to Nintendo through fangames* Nintendo : YOU ARE THREATENING ME AND TARNISHING MY IMAGE, TAKE IT DOWN *peta parodies Nintendo games in a bad light* Nintendo : Meh.
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
They don't just not have time, they claim it's "not a real issue!" I don't get why they blatantly lie about Joy Con drift. It's a real problem, and weirder still Nintendo Customer service seems to address the problem, but not their legal team. There is division within the company.
theres 100s of nintendo mario games already released and more importantly... each ROM stays with the same style as the official release if i showed you a rom next to the real game chances are you may mistake the ROM for being real (well the less crazy ones) nintendo only really copystrikes when they feel threatened so to them they already have 100s of official games made by veteran level designers what will some ROMs made by amatuers really do?
Not much they can do with the hacks themselves, and romhackers have gotten pretty good at skirting around copyright infringement. An IPS patch of Kaizo wouldn't share a single Nintendo asset; but rather a piece of code that rearranges the assets in a copy of Super Mario world. The legal onus is on the player to get a ROM to apply the patch to, the method thereof usually does violate some copyright law. Little to no legal accountability on the hacker's part, all they're sharing is code. A fangame usually does require illegally aquiring Nintendo assets (sprites, music, artwork) or making derivatives without licensing the IP (making a cover song without license is still illegal but artists tend to not go after each other, it's mostly record labels who do), which is a much more solid case. If Nintendo could build an ironclad case against SMW hacks, there is no doubt in my mind they would, no matter how much the community has kept Mario relevant or how much love fans put into the work. It's not even about money they're *currently* not seeing with a fan project; sometimes it's about leaving a good idea that they could ONE DAY make money off floating on the net.
Romhacks often are distributed in patch files which still require original ROMs, meaning there’s nothing Nintendo can legally do to prevent them from release as they don’t technically contain any Nintendo code in distribution.
The strange part is there are people actively making 10s to 100s of thousands a year making merchandise off of unofficially licensed Nintendo properties, but the first whiff of a fan game that makes a fraction of that, if anything at all, gets axed. Just take a gander at the collectible pin hobbyist market.
it isn't about how much money the fan project makes, its about how much it hurts nintendo's profits. collectible pins aren't going to affect nintendo's profits in the slightest, since nintendo doesn't sell collectible pins and nobody in their right mind would buy a pin instead of a nintendo game, they aren't the least bit interchangeable. fan games, _especially_ free or very cheap ones, could definitely be viewed as a cheaper or better alternative to nintendo's actual products, and thus they could actually hurt nintendo's profits.
@@welcometohell3002selling unofficial merchandise is big business I can guarantee you it hurts nintendos bottom line and is also illegal And Nintendo does sell pins and other merchandise So again why go after a fan made game that the fans of the brand loves (so not effecting their image) and not a tshirt that has Mario sniffing a line of coke of peaches ass??
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
as i have stated on another comment, the port is not a fangame. it is literally an unauthorized version of the game that was shared around for free and therefore technically a form of piracy and hence illegal.
afanguy Well, no. Not exactly. They completely re-made the game from scratch. None of Nintendo’s assets were actually used. Only their intellectual properties. So in that sense, it technically is a fan game.
SEGA: Hires a fan who has remade the first Sonic games (including CD) from the ground up with his own engine and lets him start a project for a whole new game Nintendo: *Shuts down years and years of work that fans spent just to make a tribute and show appreciation to the company*
Or it could be trademark. The MLP fandom has a lot of info on this stuff cuase the company actually gave real legal reasons for why they did what they did.which was cuase trademark laws.
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I imagine that you speak from ignorance, the members of the board of directors of Nintendo have a lower average age in Japan when we talk about the video game industry, only square enix have an average age lower than that of Nintendo, so the average age sony, capcom, komani, sega and bandai namco is older than nintendo
Nintendo: Takes down fan made games of beloved franchises in different styles/gameplay. Also Nintendo: Doesn't bother making sequels to great games like F-Zero, Earthbound, and sadly more.
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@bailujen8052 I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@MAX POPOLIZIO F-Zero being a good example, no new installment at all since Nintendo GameCube, no plans for a return of the franchise even from the wildest rumors or leaks around internet and definitely not even a new character representing the franchise in Smash Bros games other than Captain Falcon whatsoever 😡😡😡.
@@IsAcRafT that's their choice. If they feel there is nothing they want to do with the franchise or have no really good ideas as they feel the previous installment was so good they don't have to make a game because some fans want one. Equally fans have no right to use their IP to make an f-zero game. As I understand Nintendo does not make sequels to its games if they don't feel they have any new ideas or they don't feel a need to make a new one. Other companies may make a sequel simply because the last made lots of money.
@@richardcastro-parker3704 then Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 comes in...( yes I'm aware that Nintendo don't release new games from a franchise unless they have a concept new and fresh to add to the franchise but a remake or remaster of some older games like F-Zero could suffice to bring the franchise back into the spotlight).
*meanwhile at Nintendo HQ* Mario: we need ideas to make Nintendo even better!!!! Marth: more Fire Emblem!!!! Link: create even more hype!!!! Pikachu: pika pika!!!! Sonic: let the fans make their own games... Mario: *death stares at Sonic, and throws him through the window*
There's been some floating around. Like from 11 years back. But two have turned into new games that come close if not match F-Zero. The 3D ones at any rate. Check out Super Pilot and Aero GPX if you have time.
It wasn't even Nintendo that really made F-Zero GX, that's probably why they are so hesitant to try and create a new one, because it will never be as good at F-Zero GX made by pretty much SEGA.
Random fan: *I made a Mario game out of my sheer passion for the franchise!* Nintendo: 👎 Illumination: *We want some more Ferraris, so can we make a Mario film?* Nintendo: 👍
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
The reason is much simpler: Japanese business culture. Old Japanese companies run by old men are notorious for their unwillingness to develop novel ideas, and live off of intellectual property developed during the economy bubble era. They are very protective of their IP because it's all they know and it's all they have. Creating a fan game is like trying to befriend the child of a reclusive helicopter parent: you're just trying to show some love but the parent thinks you're a kidnapper.
@@Noname-fb1mm We would not have the PS if it wasn’t for traditional, old business culture! But it wasn’t Sony; it was Nintendo, when it screwed Sony over on a hardware partnership (prompting Sony to enter the gaming industry). The PS was spearheaded by a fellow in his early 40’s and spun into an independent, multinational business unit. Japan definitely deserves credit for the PS, but the arrogant, clingy business culture embodied by Nintendo does not.
@@YamiAiger It would be so expensive to remove all of the NSFW artwork, plus, fan artists can fight legally, and they absolutely will. Compared to fan games, there is no advantage to spending $10,000 a pop to tear down the hundreds of thousands of poorly drawn M.S. paint cringe drawings. Heck, the fanart might even boost sales XD Furries are known for being loaded with cash.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
@Jack Attack its hard to see it because of the great branding and amazing games, along with some cool leaders, but, the amiibo shortages and amibos is general,general product shortages, striking any channel who lets plays, this video's topic, no effort ever put into online, nintendo is a multifaceted corporate entity who is far from not having any ulterior motive.
Valve and sege: your creating fan games that are really good? Thats amazing! :D Nintendo: (looks at sega and valve confusingly) what are you guys doing???
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@kitkat2849-b3h The problem's not as simple as that though, people often put spoilers in the title and the thumbnail, which are basically completely unavoidable.
@@master5gamingandotherstuff490 And Undertale was _inspired_ by the Earthbound franchise. Nintendo wasn't bothered about it since Undertale was popular now.
@@justsomeguywhocommentsonev4741 Uh yeah, it is. Generalizing a term to fit your argument wouldn't help you in a court of law by the way: "Nonprofit educational and noncommercial uses are more likely to be fair use. This does not mean that all nonprofit education and noncommercial uses are fair use or that all commercial uses are not fair." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States#Public_domain
@@hekatetrivia1727 and then you ave Sonic Mania, a game made by SONIC FANS. Fan games can be a great way to show off your skills as an animator and showing companies how you can mimic their game's gameplay style. Which is part of why SEGA hired a group of Sonic fans to make Sonic Mania to begin with
Probably because of how vicious PeTA is in court. Even Nintendo doesn't want to get swamped in a massive legal battle with a bunch of hypocritical ecoterrorists.
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
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Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
To me, in my completely honest opinion, the idea of Nintendo shutting down fan games because they feel threatened and that they believe that fan games diminish the dignity of their IPs is absolute bullcrap. The people who are making these said fan games are making them out of love for these said franchises. Why can't the higher-ups at Nintendo understand that?
At least SEGA did respect its fans so no wonder why Sonic The Hedgehog Movie was a success. If Nintendo abandon its arrogance towards fans, then Mario Movie should do better than that.
@S C They're actually doing quite well, besides the Sonic's recent mediocre games. They're focusing on other series from Japan and bringing future westernized games soon! I'm quite hyped about all the new potential series! (Plus, I hope you realize Sega is doing quite well in other industries, like a example- casino industry. They own most of the slot machines in Japan and many here in America. This not even the tip of the iceberg.)
@@rhombidandy394 yeah but the business is not getting a cut of the money you are making. You dont have to be profiting, as long as you're making money of their IP that's a problem.
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
No no, you guys aren't being harsh at all - you're spitting out mad facts, the truth against Nintendo's old fashioned and outdated mindset It's a shame that so many wonderful fangames have been taken down over the years Chrono Trigger's fanmade sequel especially The image at 2:28 sums Nintendo up perfectly
to be fair though, Nintendo goes after fan games that would potentially be competition for their official games, which is understandable. Like how they took down that Metroid fan game, to release Samus Returns
If there's anything I ever honestly really dislike about Nintendo, it's this exact thing. They seriously need to learn that we want to be able to give them tributes for their work, and that we are really neither trying to "steal" their copyrighted characters nor are we trying to make our games better than their's. We want to be able to create fan games under fair use policies, and we just want to be able to give something in return for their hard work on shaping the video game industry as we know it. Otherwise, well, if they ever go out of business we may or still may not be able to create fan games because the DMCA may still strike them down. Oh well, I guess only time will tell if they'll ever finally open up or not... P.S. It also doesn't help that us gamers are having to rely on more Indie games because Nintendo is apparently starting to get super greedy with their recent mobile games. (Looking at you two, Dr. Mario World and Mario Kart World Tour...)
Me too. I used to play a roblox pokemon fan game called pokemon brick bronze. I didnt think Nintendo would even bothered to take down since I didnt think it was a threat to them. But nope. They deleted almost every pokemon game on roblox.
Gosh, your voice is so adorable! Great videos as well! Sad that Nintendo doesn't care much for the futire of their digital games. Been waiting decades for Official N64 digital games.
I don't see how fan games would threaten their IPs though, Nintendo most of the time makes really good games. They aren't in the same position as Sega where fans can actually make better Sonic games than they can. but I do understand where they're coming from since it's still their IPs in the end.
There would be numerous problems that not only limit potential earnings but cause customer relation nightmares. That doesn't even begin to include how nebulous the legal entanglement that the author would forcibly drag the company into by their own self-inclusion. Do they get to demand royalty payments after the fact as they contributed to the valuation of the intellectual property? It's utter insanity. Complete and utter insanity. Just look to the Witcher series and the author's dispute with CD Projekt Red as an example as to how insane you'd have to be to even humour the notion!
In the eyes of the law, if you do not defend and protect the trademark or copyright you own... you can lose the rights to it, and it becomes public domain. Then Nintendo would abonden that intellectual property and no more official Mario, Pokemon, Zelda games.
@@boxhead6177 If that's the case then explain why what you describe doesn't happend to other companies who aren't as hostile towards fan creations as Nintendo (that's to say, pretty much the rest of the entire video game industry).
@@boxhead6177 It's my understanding that abandonment only applies to trademark and not to copyright. There were particular ways that copyright could be lost in years prior such as from lack of renewal or lack of notice, but no longer apply to works currently produced. In general, they expire after a set amount of time. See: fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/public-domain/
Nintendo: You made an unlicensed work based on one of our franchises! Break his legs, boys! Fan: But I'm already in a wheelchair. Nintendo: Then flatten his wheels and tip the chair over!
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
Or hell just send the guy who made AM2R a copy of Samus Returns eventually, cause lord knows he was probably stoked to hear there was a real reason for that notice.
that would have taken away attention from Nintendo's official version of that game since they remade Metroid 2 (I thinkthat was the one) as Samus Returns. So shutting down a project that would've directly influenced the sales of their newest release makes sense
Prrreeeeetttyyy much. I love Nintendo, but even I admit that for every awesome thing they do they're doing something equally horrible behind the curtain. I think Miyamoto's want to be the next Disney is more accurate than he knows.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
To tell you the truth; If I actually had the ability to make my own fan games and make them good, I would just forget using someone else's IP and just make my own. A lot of my personal favourite games that came out in the last decade were actually from small teams, sometimes even 1 person, that worked hard on making their own game. Take Gunman Clive and Stardew Valley for example, these games are amazing and definitely worth your time. And on top of that, since it's your own work, you have zero need to worry about any DMCA take downs.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Well, I make sure to credit Nintendo for its respective characters everytime I make fan-games. Like this… "This game uses graphics, characters and audio that are subject to copyright by Nintendo, Square Enix, Intelligent Systems and Raw Fury. However, this game is not an official Square Enix title nor an entry in the Mario universe." "Genesis of Geno is a non-profit (and standalone) fan-game centered on characters who originate from Super Mario RPG and a few successors."
That reminds me... At one point there was a Spyro fangame in development called Myths Awaken, before the guy was told he wasn't allowed to make a Spyro fangame like that. So he complied... by changing the Spyro elements to functionally equivalent original models, _but not the gameplay_ (well, except for a couple new tricks placed on top of Spyro's moveset). Now it's called _Zera_ Myths Awaken, starring an axolotl/manta ray pair. Still isn't finished, but the current beta has three full levels and a hub that counts as a fourth.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Sega: fangames are cool we dont delete them Nintendo: imma shoot you with sueing because of fangame This is why sega is getting more popular than nintendo
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
Just to note, Sega hasn't always been above giving out C&Ds. Nintendo may be notorious for it, but Sega actually shut down a Streets of Rage fan remake back in 2011.
Reminds me of the fan game Super Mario RPG: The Starlite Worlds. It had hours and hours of gameplay and was almost as good as a real nintendo game. Nintendo had taken down the original download but some youtuber put up their own download (which let me play the game). I wish Nintendo realized how hard some of these people work on their fangames...
Yeah I remember that, it had so much work put into it with the timed attacks and just overall content. Thankfully I got it before that happened but yeah, at least they didn't take down the other one by the same team
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Considering that Nintendo is rich and powerful enough to do anything, if a fan made game gets a lot of praise, why don’t they try to hire the people who made the game? Kind of like what the Sonic team did when the hired Christian?
Nintendo is the same company that took away "Metroid" away from Retro Studios because the "Prime" trilogy was overshadowing the rest of the series, and tried to make Metroid Great and Japanese-Developed Again. That failed hard, and now a decade later, they've been forced to give Metroid back to Retro Studios. Justice is served.
Big brain idea: make Splatoon 3 and Mario Kart 9 with a track builder myself, and see if Nintendo sues me for it. Finally we would have solid information!
@Isaiah Wallerstedt I think they took down the OG version of Mother 3, so the guys working on it had to change almost everything about the game except the character names mostly.
We All Cried when Nintendo Almost Sued SML (Creator Of Jeffy) And Nintendo Told Them To Not Use Nintendo Characters. So This Is Why Nintendo Ruined Everything!
Nintendo attacked my channel right after they ended the UA-cam Partnership Program, blocked so many Mario Party mod videos from being public. Yet they don't seem to mind the vast amounts of Mario fan renders I've done.
So, Super Mario VR World isn't taken down? If it isn't, would you mind making it available for Quest User's? I use one, and that's the reason Why I wanted to get VRChat. ;-;
@@Mornya Sorry to break it to you, but I don't think there's anything I can really do, not to mention I can't even get in anymore ever since the newer update.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
And then when Iwata left.... Nintendo's Gremlins started to crawl out of the woodwork and slam any and everything they feel is a threat; even if it's a drawing by a 5 year old. Meanwhile Sonic Team revels in fan content and promotes it, just as long as it doesn't make money or became too popular that people would confuse it with official content.
the only reason sonic is still relevant is its fan games. nintendo doest need to be as lenient as sega since they dont have to fear going to obscurity since they have the switch
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal!
This is one thing that I believe that Nintendo's former competitor Sega has handled incredibly well. Just look at their flagship series, Sonic The Hedgehog, which has a storied history of positive interactions with the fandom and fan games. Just look at Sonic Mania, essentially a Sonic fan game given a modest budget and official backing, which released to rave reviews! I love Nintendo, but they are so painfully behind the times in many aspects.
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Hello! (1Bridgeyboo here) Thanks for discussing the idea I posed in the comments. I'm really glad more people are going to discuss this type of thing. Thanks for the video, and stay safe! ^^
Hey since Waluigi isn't a Nintendo character that means we can make any fan game with hin with no consequences :)
@@guynamedrick4419 and Wario!
I have to wonder if you knew about Oddity or if that's just a coincidence.
Fans need to stop making Fan Games, and just create Fan Mods which are easier to slip under the radar and under fair-use...
if there isn't a game to mod. Create a "spiritual successor" / clone game with your own assets... then create a reskin mod for it. Steamworkshop is great for that.
Minecraft has the Pixelmon mod, its highly rated in the community, lets players play Pokemon in Minecraft.
Also, my opinion as to why Nintendo randomly stomps on fanmade things was always because they had bad experiences with allowing others to handle their works, so they just don't trust anyone. Look at before the Mario Movie we don't really talk about and then afterwards. Now, look if any of the companies mentioned in the video that do encourage others to create whatever they want. They have a huge difference.
Something that is worth pointing out is that most fangames that got DMCA'd were projects that *(coincidentally)* were similar to something Nintendo was planning to announce in the near-future.
_Now somebody needs to make a F-Zero fangame, and if they don't take it down _*_we'll know that the franchise is dead for sure_*
@@TheRealBatabii hopefully
They haven't taken down the Mother 3 fan translation yet. I'm not a Mother/Earthbound fan (yet) but OH BOY!
@@christonadams9046 honestly the safest thing for Nintendo to do would be to never release Mother 3 overseas and leave the fan translation. We've had the fan translation for so long now (and it's a damn good translation) that whatever localazation changes the team decides to make would be met with huge backlash from its fans, or alternatively if they don't change enough then SJWs will surely find things to cry about in the game, leading to controversy either way.
@@kaystar64 that is true, but an official release would be nice. Plus, I don't think Nintendo should care about the SJW's.
@@TheRealBatabii Situation with Super Mario 64 is much more complicated. It contains pieces of code and resources stolen from Nintendo during the leak. So, Nintendo lawyers are going to seek criminal prosecution, and not just blocking it.
Guy: *makes a mario fan game*
Nintendo: *it's treason then*
Guy: *makes a sonic fan game*
Sega: *you're hired*
EA: give me your money, nowwwwwww
I know it's out of no where but I still thought it was funny
*EA:* Hurry up and buy our fan-game maker pass, now 35% off!
@@TheDragShot if you pre order you can get 70% of the game, right of the bat.
Sega: Got to big for it's britches and almost went bankrupt.
Mario fan: makes a fan game
Nintendo: AYE SPONGEBOB, YOURE WASTING ALL ME MONEY!!
Sonic fan: makes a fan game
SEGA: now THIS puts a smile to my face
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
NO SEGA THEY ARE STEALING YOUR CHARACTER WITHOUT PERMISSION THEY ARE STEALING, STEALING!
This is proof that SEGA is a criminal
@@UA-camr-xi6qo very funi joke
@@UA-camr-xi6qo i hope you are trolling or joking because it's like if someone cloned your entire house and then made some changes (in a world where that's illegal without your permition) but you just let him do that (basically givin him permition) and then someone called you a criminal...
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Nintendo seems to remove and take down fan projects if they coincide with a project
Nintendo took down the recent mario 64 PC port
Rumors are going around about Mario rereleases for the switch including Mario 64
*HMMMMM*
THEY ALREADY TOOK IT DOWN?!!!
I mean, unlike the other cases, it's an unauthorized port based on the original source code.
Wth where’s the check by your name your are one of the best youtuber to me
COINCIDENCE?
*I THINK NOT*
That rumor is 200% fake. Too good to be true and no evidence.
“No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me!”
Fans who do what Nintendon’t
That's why i prefer sonic more than mario!
Man I love sonic colors
sonic maiden I mean Mario didn’t do anything
Thats why i moved to da sonic fandom
@Horizonshot there are good mario/ Nintendo fanworks out there! The most recent example is the super Mario 64 pc port (yes I tried it and it was awesome!). I just don't like that Nintendo is going after a lot of fan projects, while Sega being pretty chill about it. Nintendo even went after dreams creations, while Sega didn't bother at all. I still played a few mario official games on wii and fan games and I enjoyed them, but yeah I don't like Nintendo's attitude towards the fan projects.
Virgin: Nintendo
Chad: Scott Cawthon
Yeah scott has the most fangames
LMAOOOO Scott donates money to the ppl who make fnaf fan games because he believes they have potential to become a good game developer
Lol yeah ! FNAF is the game that has a lot of fan-made games ever !
@OOF OOF Scott cawthon even admits that he's Fandom is kinda toxic but he will do his best to keep the Fandom not toxic
@OOF OOF ye
fan games exist
Nintendo: *_hippity hoppoty you stole intellectual property_*
Wow edge lord, what a great comment.
Nintendo fan game exists
Nintendo: What a great idea! Let's shut it down and make it our own.
I've seen you everywhere
Your everywhere dude!
edge lord please stop im going to file a restraining order
Imagine if Nintendo issued a DMCA takedown notice to this video.
surprised they haven't yet
@@lunarash5755 If they did, you could sue them.
It'd be canon
Just Re-upload It And Defy That Laws Of...
FASCISM.
Fascism Is A Botched Abortion That Should Have Been Successful But Unfortunately Wasn't And Now Look Where We Are, Fascism Was Invented By AntiTheists And Almost Ended The World TWICE.
Maybe you should Imagine people making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Nintendo's like an old man. They hate it when people step on there property.
Don't touch my grass made of dead franchises!
Those darn game makers always taking my darn ideas away from me! Oh well I’ll just call the cops and throw the stuff they stole in the trash.
Makes sense for about 50 year old company.
Nintendo it's more than one hundred years old,so that's maker sense
Well, you arent supposed to be on someone elses property without their consent
What sucks is that Nintendo has so many cool properties they never use but the minute a fan makes a passion project (that they usually don't profit of) about one of those properties they get taken down immediately.
Crazy that Nintendo would want people to pay money for their games and pay their employees rather than having their IP freely distributed because that's what it's about, right? It's either let other people sell all your stuff and pocket the money or give away all your stuff for free seems like. Nothing unreasonable about that.
@@hekatetrivia1727 Well, you're kinda right. They have the right too.
I just wish they rerelease their older games.
*cough* KID ICARUS *cough*
Hekate Trivia
Nintendrone spotted
@@hekatetrivia1727 That's only half right, since nobody's claiming that Nintendo needs to give away all their products for free, they're saying that games like Uranium which are completely free shouldn't get taken down when they naturally aren't going to sell as much as Nintendo's other offerings.
I am so sick of people using the "Sega makes bad games, so their acceptance of fan games doesn't count" argument whenever someone brings up Sega in this topic. Regardless of how bad Sega games are today, it's still proof that game companies can coincide with fanworks, with positive results. They aren't losing their copyrights, or anything like that. Nintendo and other companies can easily do the same thing, as long as the fanworks don't resemble ideas of their own.
First of all. Who would say sega makes bad games ? I mean there are other ips such as yakuza series, sakura wars, super monkey ball, puyo puyo tetris and the persona series. So sega just makes least good
quality games unless if people are talking about sonic games. Then there's two divisions team who are incharge of the games development
@@cywh1711 It's just Nintendo fanboys that go to every length possible to defend this greedy ass company.
What I don't understand is Nintendo fans using Sega as an example for them to bully Nintendo into doing what the fans want. You're not entitled to it even if it does make sense. I can understand objectively observing it makes more sense to open to fan work. But this complaining and bullying is just ... it's bullying.
Because they do
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, hen Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Nintendo: Fan games diminish the value of our brands
Sega: *Literally pulls fans to make a game that turns to be a critical success and improves the image of the brand*
Me: Sounds about right.
Sega the same company that drove their flagship characters into the ground only to be saved by fans, Atlus who makes Persona, and the team of the Yakuza games. Sega needs all the help it can get
@@purkle200 You are 100% right
Didn't do sonic any favors.
Thats because they don’t know how to make a game, so they needed the fans to make an actual good sonic game
Sega does what Nintendon't
Remember when Nintendo went hard on let's plays and streams of their games?
Thankfully, we are past that.
Mark Koehr yeah. In my opinion that was one of the most pathetic decisions they’ve made.
Chuggaconroy would be hit HARD
They r very control of their ip.... This why rheir gane don't had much buyer for wii u....
I need money! Mobile-apps? Make them playable the 0.1% and then PAY to play
*this gives Sega does what Nintendont a whole new meaning*
guys please stop taking my joke seriously i just wanted to make a haha funny ;-;
Nintendont
Nintendon't
No it doesn’t because Sega has no rivalry of Nintendo
This is give what open source and free culture movement so risen.
Also, creative commons and Kevin MacLeod supporters
Fan games: *exist*
Nintendo: Now this is an Avengers-level threat.
Same happen other companies too...
Nintendo: *MY BODY IS READY*
Press F to pay respects for pixlemon
Valve: Go ahead. Take the time you need. We'll let you sell your fan game on our store.
@@Ulvis_B Sega: So why do you want this job?
Person: I made a crappy Sonic fan game years prior.
Sega: You're in.
Nintendo: Hates Fan games.
Also Nintendo: Makes Mario Maker.
That only explains it more, because then people who want to make their own Mario levels can do it easier than ever, and cleaner than ever.
well since Mario maker exist then what's the point of buying the NSMB when u can make you're own levels
This irony when Nintendo sells a game where creativity is for the fans, although Nintendo hates fan creativity...
Nintendo's Mario maker was based on a fangame they just do it to make money yeah mea. why does Nintendo just take down almost like anything while fans make there fangames and sadly Nintendo takes them down those fans did a lot of work to do this
Also then what if fans make a paid for fangame where all the money goes to nintendo? Yet there's a remake of Mario 64 and I'm afraid that it might be token down which is bad. Nintendo only wants to make money some people just don't know how greedy Nintendo is.
Lunar magic had made Mario Maker possible years before
SEGA: *Loves fan games*
Nintendo: *Hates them*
Me: I don't get it.
It could be a Japan thing.
@@CarloNassar But Nintendo Is also in japan
@@ilikeketchups2817
Well, I said it could be a Japan thing.
@@CarloNassar yeah we Asians are weird
Also, Nintendo was never the only company. Naughty Dog, Capcom, and Square Enix made take-downs that are just as bad as the ones from Nintendo or even worse. At least Nintendo won't attack you for calling them out. I just wish they could actually listen to the criticism, which would actually help them. Same with other companies.
this is gonna sound weird but
im surprised they haven't taken down many of the nintendo p*rn games, when you think about it, isn't that more damaging to the property?
One thing we left out of the video: Nintendo once purchased the rights to a pair of "films for grown ups" (we were going to call them) to stop them from ever being released again.
@@VideoGameStoryTime, yeah, I'm aware of that one 😂😂
Dusty Stage
Nintendo owns stag reels?
I think because it’s not really a substitute for any official Nintendo games they probably are a bit more lenient on those. So long as Nintendo aren’t making porn games it doesn’t really matter if others are.
Dusty Stage plus there is so much pornographic content of their ips at this point that it would be a waste of time and resources to try taking it all down
This reminds me of a "recent" (I think 2-3 years ago) take down from Capcom for a remake of Resident Evil 2 made by an Italian group. There is actually a very good ending, because Capcom thanked them for their support by credited them in their RE2 Remake, plus the team could "remake the remake" by turning it into an original videogame (Daymare1998) with the moral support of Capcom and a more practice support from Paul Haddad, the original voice actor of Leon Kennedy from RE2 (who recently passed away).
But, what's important is why they did that. And the reason is pretty simple: They were working on an actual Resident Evil 2 Remake.
What I think is that Nintendo basically takes down fangames that got somewhat famous in the recent days, especially if they're an obstacle to projects very similar to what they're developing.
I'm not saying they're working an a Mario 64 for PC, I really doubt this. In this case they're probably just defending their IP. But there some examples like the Super Metroid remake and the Mario Battle Royale one that got down also because Nintendo was planning to release something similar.
Well I guess that is another reason on the pile we probably won't get a courtbound game. The incredible animations will need to suffice.
iKiwied?? Is this a crossover?
But then they also go out of their way to ban fan projects from awards and the like which just smacks of pettiness. They are downright callous to their fans while Capcom supported them despite the copyright claim.
apoll
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
In prison cell*
- "I killed a man, what have you done?"
- "I drew a slightly deformed Mario"
Resist The Regime, You Should Have Went To War Against The Fascist Regime Instead Of Getting Yourself Locked Up.
Citizens Need Weapons And Armour To War Against Fascist Regimes Like This, Which Is Why I Will Always Support Amendment Rights.
VGST: If you’re rich enough and powerful enough you can do whatever you want
Well that seems to add up
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, hen Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
I Will Keep Reuoloading Whatever The Heck I Want And I Will NEVER Pay Or Obey If They Sue Me And If They Keep Forcing Me Then I'll Kill Them All, This Is A Free Country, Not Fascist Japan, A True Soldier Would Rather Die Than Surrender.
@@Dark_Force_Of_Wishes what are you even talking about
People: makes fan games for people to enjoy.
Nintendo: wait that's illegal.
Hey nintendo, abusing copyright and committing digicide is death penalty
Guy: Makes Sonic fan game
SEGA: What’s you’re name again? 😃
What that is like is Nintendo is a false idol worse than any other idol. An idol that outright murder people just for worshipping it
TL:DR;
"Screw the rules. I have money."
AND power
@@TheRealBatabii well no, we don't know that and a lot of them could be under fair use due to them always being free.
but because they sue these ordinary people and court cases taking a whole lot of money, they never have to be able to prove in court if it ever broke any actual rules and they can just take it down by threatening creators with probably bankruptcy from the massive court costs,
just because these people tried to make a free fan game.
An intellectual i see.
This isn’t reddit, but ok
And yet Mother 4 & fanmade F-Zero game(s) are still around. 🤔
Nintendo: BOO-HOO! They are messing with my intellectual property!!
SEGA: Haha! Funny fangame! I think i gotta hire this guy for Sonic Mania
Yes, But the games Sega makes are actually 10x worse than fan games
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 at least they try, and care about their fans
Just Re-upload It And Defy That Laws Of...
FASCISM.
Fascism Is A Botched Abortion That Should Have Been Successful But Unfortunately Wasn't And Now Look Where We Are, Fascism Was Invented By AntiTheists And Almost Ended The World TWICE.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
@@Dark_Force_Of_Wishes What are you talking about?
Super smash bros ultimate: comes out
Super smash flash 2 and crusade: no copyright law in the universe is going to stop us
Yeah, that remains a mystery to me. Even Project M wasn't taken down by Nintendo.
Are those games still up
blue vines yes
Smash Flash 2 has fair use if you just to look at the title screen
@@bluevines1303 yea
As a fangame developer myself, I really wish Nintendo would be more like Sega :(
Edit: 1 year later, and I regret writing this. Opinions change, people. SEGA can still make good games, they just don't know how. Still, read the following wall of text at your own risk.
My original comment: Woah there just a second kiddo. It’s true That SEGA allows fan-made stuff to exist, but be careful what you wish for. SEGA games as of now are pure garbagio, struggling to find an identity for themselves. Take the Sonic games for instance. They keep bringing back pointless characters that add no relevancy to the plot, and struggle to find a good balance between platforming and boost-to-win sections. Not to mention that the enemy AI sucks more than you can suck to the middle of a Tootsie Roll. Do you want that? Do you want Nintendo to fall into corporate failure like SEGA did? Do you wish upon yourself that Nintendo stop making good games such as Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Kirby, and much much more? Do you wish that our lord and savior: Masahiro Sakurai ditch the highly requested characters for Smash, such as Dante, Geno, that one Arms character, Sans UNDERTALE, Waluigi, and so much more just for another generic Fire Emblem character? I mean, not to say Byleth’s inclusion was bad or anything, but look at the roster. *8* Fire Emblem Characters. That’s on par with the Mario cast, which doesn’t include Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Wario by the way. Heck, Sakurai had the balls to add a freaking Piranha Plant to Smash, showing that he can make literally anything possible. What I’m saying is: Be careful what you wish for. Because kid, you don’t want to see what happens when Nintendo does what Nintendon’t.
@@thedx266 I definitely don't want Nintendo games to be on the level of the ones Sega makes, I just wish they would treat their fans with a little bit more respect.
@Funrain Games
I think that's asking for something too unrealistic.
No entity is perfect, they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
@@thedx266 Dude stfu. He was just talking about how they treat their fans.
Well ok so dont make games that are fan games but just the genre is another idea cause nintendo has no rights to platforming in general...only the ips they own...so you can have a game be "inspired" by a game but make it unique and not a fan game
"I'm not saying another word without my lawyer!"
*You hear 'Objection!' Being shouted in the distance.*
Fan: Let’s draw an ugly sonic.
Sega: hire that man to make M E M E S to print on T-shirts in sonic games
GotTa Go FAsT
@@resmig8953 gotta go past
Guys keep rhyming
@@Prod.byJbeats - gotta come last
@@quadpad_music gotta blast
Got a got fise
*fan make a nice tribute to Nintendo through fangames*
Nintendo : YOU ARE THREATENING ME AND TARNISHING MY IMAGE, TAKE IT DOWN
*peta parodies Nintendo games in a bad light*
Nintendo : Meh.
Consider that PeTA is not an adversary you want to fight.
@@LordSiravant
Would it be like trying to win an argument with an idiot?
Hopefully it gets brought to light
Ironically enough, Nintendo told PETA to stop making those.
PETA is like a junkie who sits by the roadside then starts shouting for no reason. Do you really wanna give someone like that attention?
Nintendo: has time to sue innocent fan games
Also Nintendo: Doesn't have time to fix switch drift
They are NOT INNOCENT THEY ARE ILLEGAL
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
Fan Sonic Prototype they are not even charging money out of fan projects..they just doing it for the love to the game
They don't just not have time, they claim it's "not a real issue!" I don't get why they blatantly lie about Joy Con drift. It's a real problem, and weirder still Nintendo Customer service seems to address the problem, but not their legal team. There is division within the company.
@@UA-camr-xi6qohello nintendo ninja
They're seemingly fine with Mario romhacks. It's a massive community. Don't know what makes it special
theres 100s of nintendo mario games already released and more importantly... each ROM stays with the same style as the official release if i showed you a rom next to the real game chances are you may mistake the ROM for being real (well the less crazy ones) nintendo only really copystrikes when they feel threatened so to them they already have 100s of official games made by veteran level designers what will some ROMs made by amatuers really do?
It's doubtful that fans could hurt sales by making the likes of Kaizo Mario.
Not much they can do with the hacks themselves, and romhackers have gotten pretty good at skirting around copyright infringement. An IPS patch of Kaizo wouldn't share a single Nintendo asset; but rather a piece of code that rearranges the assets in a copy of Super Mario world. The legal onus is on the player to get a ROM to apply the patch to, the method thereof usually does violate some copyright law. Little to no legal accountability on the hacker's part, all they're sharing is code.
A fangame usually does require illegally aquiring Nintendo assets (sprites, music, artwork) or making derivatives without licensing the IP (making a cover song without license is still illegal but artists tend to not go after each other, it's mostly record labels who do), which is a much more solid case. If Nintendo could build an ironclad case against SMW hacks, there is no doubt in my mind they would, no matter how much the community has kept Mario relevant or how much love fans put into the work. It's not even about money they're *currently* not seeing with a fan project; sometimes it's about leaving a good idea that they could ONE DAY make money off floating on the net.
Romhacks often are distributed in patch files which still require original ROMs, meaning there’s nothing Nintendo can legally do to prevent them from release as they don’t technically contain any Nintendo code in distribution.
I assume it's because it's hard to make money from rom hacks.
The strange part is there are people actively making 10s to 100s of thousands a year making merchandise off of unofficially licensed Nintendo properties, but the first whiff of a fan game that makes a fraction of that, if anything at all, gets axed. Just take a gander at the collectible pin hobbyist market.
it isn't about how much money the fan project makes, its about how much it hurts nintendo's profits. collectible pins aren't going to affect nintendo's profits in the slightest, since nintendo doesn't sell collectible pins and nobody in their right mind would buy a pin instead of a nintendo game, they aren't the least bit interchangeable. fan games, _especially_ free or very cheap ones, could definitely be viewed as a cheaper or better alternative to nintendo's actual products, and thus they could actually hurt nintendo's profits.
@@welcometohell3002selling unofficial merchandise is big business I can guarantee you it hurts nintendos bottom line and is also illegal
And Nintendo does sell pins and other merchandise
So again why go after a fan made game that the fans of the brand loves (so not effecting their image) and not a tshirt that has Mario sniffing a line of coke of peaches ass??
There was animal crossing nh related Kickstarter. It got taken down. Just find it on torrentfreak
@@ssjmonstar Mario sniffing what?😂
@@ssjmonstar say what now? Down Peaches ass? 😂
my god, by nintendo's fault we just lost masterpieces like mario battle royale, super mario bros x and more
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Realizing Nintendo is trying to take down the Mario 64 port shortly after the rumors talking about a remake surfaced recently.
as i have stated on another comment, the port is not a fangame. it is literally an unauthorized version of the game that was shared around for free and therefore technically a form of piracy and hence illegal.
afanguy Well, no. Not exactly. They completely re-made the game from scratch. None of Nintendo’s assets were actually used. Only their intellectual properties. So in that sense, it technically is a fan game.
It’s an archive, not piracy.
My name is M&M and I’m here to say, That’s not technically true either. We have an archive on the WiiU VC I believe.
SEGA: Hires a fan who has remade the first Sonic games (including CD) from the ground up with his own engine and lets him start a project for a whole new game
Nintendo: *Shuts down years and years of work that fans spent just to make a tribute and show appreciation to the company*
SupraSonic123 sad true
Yeah kind of sad how pokemon uranium got taken down,even if years of work went into it
@@brightman2933 as well as AM2R.
That’s why SEGA is better!
LegoSonicFan17 yup
Overall the issue has to do with nintendo's executive board all being like 60+ years old
Or it could be trademark.
The MLP fandom has a lot of info on this stuff cuase the company actually gave real legal reasons for why they did what they did.which was cuase trademark laws.
I imagine that you speak from ignorance, the members of the board of directors of Nintendo have a lower average age in Japan when we talk about the video game industry, only square enix have an average age lower than that of Nintendo, so the average age sony, capcom, komani, sega and bandai namco is older than nintendo
@ nah
@@falloutrim-ti5gk what he writes was not a question it was a statement
Nintendo: Takes down fan made games of beloved franchises in different styles/gameplay.
Also Nintendo: Doesn't bother making sequels to great games like F-Zero, Earthbound, and sadly more.
someone make an F-zero fan game to get Nintendo to make an official title.
Earthbound officially ended tho.
To be fair they never took down any fan games of those franchises, mother 4 which is a fan made sequel has been out there for years
@@Yamartim they havent cuz they know it will never come out.
@@saucymongoose7246 Yet didn't getting remastered yet.
Me: Oh interesting, a topic about Nintendo's response to fanart
Back of My Brain: Shadow The Plumber
He'll make you eat those words!
Ow the plum
When I read this, I can hear the echo on that cursed name.
You've gave me two images, and both of them are *g r e a t*
My last brain cell:Mario the ultimate life form.
Fans: hey nintendo, look at this cool fan game made in honour for your games nintendo!
Nintendo: _no_
Nintendo is like an abusive husband who murders his hundreds of thousands of wives that love him
Developer: *makes a cool fangame*
Nintendo: So you have choosen death...
Nintendo: i am an angel of Satan
Most fangames are something they were gonna make or were making
@@mushroomybod8006 its usually a coincidence tho, or they just might be stealing ideas lol
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@bailujen8052 I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
I guess you can say that Nintendo really like to takes care of there characters and games.
@MAX POPOLIZIO F-Zero being a good example, no new installment at all since Nintendo GameCube, no plans for a return of the franchise even from the wildest rumors or leaks around internet and definitely not even a new character representing the franchise in Smash Bros games other than Captain Falcon whatsoever 😡😡😡.
@MAX POPOLIZIO Yeah like Pauline and Daisy.
MAX POPOLIZIO nice one, very clever
@@IsAcRafT that's their choice. If they feel there is nothing they want to do with the franchise or have no really good ideas as they feel the previous installment was so good they don't have to make a game because some fans want one. Equally fans have no right to use their IP to make an f-zero game.
As I understand Nintendo does not make sequels to its games if they don't feel they have any new ideas or they don't feel a need to make a new one. Other companies may make a sequel simply because the last made lots of money.
@@richardcastro-parker3704 then Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 comes in...( yes I'm aware that Nintendo don't release new games from a franchise unless they have a concept new and fresh to add to the franchise but a remake or remaster of some older games like F-Zero could suffice to bring the franchise back into the spotlight).
*meanwhile at Nintendo HQ*
Mario: we need ideas to make Nintendo even better!!!!
Marth: more Fire Emblem!!!!
Link: create even more hype!!!!
Pikachu: pika pika!!!!
Sonic: let the fans make their own games...
Mario: *death stares at Sonic, and throws him through the window*
Peach: What about making me playable in NSMBW, NSMBU, SMO, and SMM2?
Why did the “Yay” at the very end make my day and where can I get more
That "Yay!" needs to be made into a ringtone (with the relevant permission of course). :-)
*Y a y !*
Can someone please make F-Zero fan game just to encourage Nintendo to finally bring F-Zero out of the grave?
There's been some floating around. Like from 11 years back. But two have turned into new games that come close if not match F-Zero. The 3D ones at any rate. Check out Super Pilot and Aero GPX if you have time.
It wasn't even Nintendo that really made F-Zero GX, that's probably why they are so hesitant to try and create a new one, because it will never be as good at F-Zero GX made by pretty much SEGA.
Sounds like the perfect plan
I mean if they are gonna take it down then they gotta know its f-zero and then they could get ideas and make one
@@custom-r Cool thanks.
Random fan: *I made a Mario game out of my sheer passion for the franchise!*
Nintendo: 👎
Illumination: *We want some more Ferraris, so can we make a Mario film?*
Nintendo: 👍
Disney: We need Mario for a Wreck-it Ralph film.
Nintendo: Go fudge yourselves.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
@@G.L.999 That just might be crazy enough to work.
@@timothydarden6133 Gee ya think!?!
@@jessiebeck8891 well, bowser's in the movie
The reason is much simpler: Japanese business culture. Old Japanese companies run by old men are notorious for their unwillingness to develop novel ideas, and live off of intellectual property developed during the economy bubble era. They are very protective of their IP because it's all they know and it's all they have. Creating a fan game is like trying to befriend the child of a reclusive helicopter parent: you're just trying to show some love but the parent thinks you're a kidnapper.
But Sega is Japanese too
@@toadrice There was a split in terms of the Sonic team however, which is mostly American based.
Duskyer Does this apply in a similar way for Capcom too, who are also Japanese and are okay with fangames?
Explain Sony and playstation then.
@@Noname-fb1mm We would not have the PS if it wasn’t for traditional, old business culture! But it wasn’t Sony; it was Nintendo, when it screwed Sony over on a hardware partnership (prompting Sony to enter the gaming industry). The PS was spearheaded by a fellow in his early 40’s and spun into an independent, multinational business unit. Japan definitely deserves credit for the PS, but the arrogant, clingy business culture embodied by Nintendo does not.
4:12 so Nintendo doesn't consider NSFW fan art as detrimental?
Weird but ok
@envy No cap.
Maybe they do but they don't have the time to remove all of that garbage.
@@YamiAiger It would be so expensive to remove all of the NSFW artwork, plus, fan artists can fight legally, and they absolutely will. Compared to fan games, there is no advantage to spending $10,000 a pop to tear down the hundreds of thousands of poorly drawn M.S. paint cringe drawings.
Heck, the fanart might even boost sales XD Furries are known for being loaded with cash.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Person: *Makes fan game*
Nintendo: Hippity hoppity those characters aren't your property
Mario looks so weird as an angry corporate
Nintendo is the Disney of gaming
@@thisrandomdude_ never say that, i hate Disney
@Jack Attack its hard to see it because of the great branding and amazing games, along with some cool leaders, but, the amiibo shortages and amibos is general,general product shortages, striking any channel who lets plays, this video's topic, no effort ever put into online, nintendo is a multifaceted corporate entity who is far from not having any ulterior motive.
ua-cam.com/video/PuYZ-9zcp4w/v-deo.html
@@thisrandomdude_ dude, ever heard of EA?
Nintendo:"HOW DARE YOU TRY TO KEEP FRANCHISES WE LEFT DEAD FOR YEARS RELEVANT , IT'S OUR JOB FOR THEM TO BE IGNORED FOREVER.
Nathaniel Foga
Mother 4 (now called Oddity because of their influence) described in a sentence
Nathaniel Foga 90% of the ones they take down are like Mario and Pokemon
Internet Guy they just takedown whatever is a much better output than what they can produce usually
Michael VandeVusse if you think thaf, then you just described why Nintendo takes stuff down? because some use them as substitutes
@@Cinko420 hold up, man don't get too excited, we still need 1 and 3 outside of Japan
Valve and sege: your creating fan games that are really good? Thats amazing! :D
Nintendo: (looks at sega and valve confusingly) what are you guys doing???
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@UA-camr-xi6qo thats true but some companies support fangames when they do this, sure they use there ip but in a good way
@@Rinne_Z_rank Bruh its because they asked for permission its not a fan game. Thats like saying Mario & Luigi is a fan game because AlphaDream made it
The name is sega
@@UA-camr-xi6qo shut up you 8 year old.
Atlus: I copyright stroked Persona 5 gameplay for a few days!
Nintendo: Well I copyright striked fan games!
Naughtydog: pathetic
@@MaJeeDooo0010 naughtydog is abusing dmca right now
Atlus did it to limit the amount of spoilers
@@poop.9654 it's still dumb though, if you're not wanting to see spoilers, don't look at the video. simple
Naughty Dog even went far to copystrike a Last of Us part 2 vid at BitChute, a UA-cam-ish site.🙄😑
@@kitkat2849-b3h The problem's not as simple as that though, people often put spoilers in the title and the thumbnail, which are basically completely unavoidable.
Nintendo when deciding sans for smash: give the fans what they want
Nintendo when taking down fan games: _destroy the fans' Hopes and dreams..._
Nice if that's a reference
Its really ironic. Undertale was made by a guy who actually started out making Earthbound fan games lol.
@Cocoverde4 #ClubPenguinForSmash Thanks.
@@master5gamingandotherstuff490 And Undertale was _inspired_ by the Earthbound franchise. Nintendo wasn't bothered about it since Undertale was popular now.
Heh, "hopes and dreams"
"Fan games diminish the value of our brand"
No they don't. End. of. Story.
EDIT: And they don't hurt Nintendo's profits either.
People: Have imaginations, hopes, and dreams...
Nintendo: *You thief, you stole our property and now, you will PAY*
Imaginations, hopes, and dreams are better spent on original IP rather than trying to justify theft which is what you seem to be implying.
@@hekatetrivia1727 Can you elaborate?
@@justsomeguywhocommentsonev4741 Uh yeah, it is. Generalizing a term to fit your argument wouldn't help you in a court of law by the way: "Nonprofit educational and noncommercial uses are more likely to be fair use. This does not mean that all nonprofit education and noncommercial uses are fair use or that all commercial uses are not fair." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States#Public_domain
@@KeyBrute I can. What part do you care to discuss?
@@hekatetrivia1727 and then you ave Sonic Mania, a game made by SONIC FANS. Fan games can be a great way to show off your skills as an animator and showing companies how you can mimic their game's gameplay style. Which is part of why SEGA hired a group of Sonic fans to make Sonic Mania to begin with
And yet the peta flash games are still up. Makes you wonder.
@Robert Meyers Sorry friend,
*You're too far in*
I think it’s because they fall under parody and therefore Fair Use.
They stood up against them tho.
Go Weegee what do you mean by “stood up against them”? They’re still up aren’t they?
Probably because of how vicious PeTA is in court. Even Nintendo doesn't want to get swamped in a massive legal battle with a bunch of hypocritical ecoterrorists.
Anyone: **makes Nintendo fan game**
Nintendo: so you have chosen death
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
And A LOT Of Death Too, It Won't Just Be Me Who Dies...
Cause The Only GOLD That I'm Planning To Give The Fascist Regime Is The Gold That Comes Out Of The Tip Of My Gun.
@@UA-camr-xi6qo I Really Hate Fascists Like You.
Communism Was Ruined By AntiTheism But Fascism Was Already Ruined The Day It Was Invented.
So Get Your UltraViolet Extreme Right Wing Fascism Off Of UA-cam Immediately, Any System That Allows The Rich To STEAL From The Poor Is Unethical Like Hell.
I like Nintendo but jeez Nintendo chill out.
Same mate
s
@KingDeeDeeDee Fan well this shows that they only care about the popular or money so yeah :/
Same
Let’s be clear tho...
Tails is better than Luigi 😄
Fan: "Oh, boy I can't wait to finish this fan game!"
Nintendo: " OI! GET OFFA MAH PROPERTEH! NAYOW!" *pulls out shotgun*
old man nintendo sitting at his porch waiting for someone to accidentally lob a ball over his fence on to his property
Fans: grabs the shot gun and says you betrayed Iwata,
Nintendo: (decapitated)
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
To me, in my completely honest opinion, the idea of Nintendo shutting down fan games because they feel threatened and that they believe that fan games diminish the dignity of their IPs is absolute bullcrap. The people who are making these said fan games are making them out of love for these said franchises. Why can't the higher-ups at Nintendo understand that?
Sega: "You made a fan game? Come work for us!"
Nintendo: "You made a fan game? We'll see you in court."
Sega does what Nintendon't.
At least SEGA did respect its fans so no wonder why Sonic The Hedgehog Movie was a success.
If Nintendo abandon its arrogance towards fans, then Mario Movie should do better than that.
Lets pretend Sega doesn't do this because they NEED all the love they can get these days
@ Being flexible out necessity for staying alive vs doing out of the kindness of their hearts
Stopped making consoles?
@S C They're actually doing quite well, besides the Sonic's recent mediocre games. They're focusing on other series from Japan and bringing future westernized games soon! I'm quite hyped about all the new potential series! (Plus, I hope you realize Sega is doing quite well in other industries, like a example- casino industry. They own most of the slot machines in Japan and many here in America. This not even the tip of the iceberg.)
You took my intellectual property. Now I'm gonna starve.
Here Nintendo, just take 1/2 of mine.
It's not just Nintendo though, let any business catch you making money off of their product and they're gonna come after you.
@@mr_m4613 here's an idea: why not buy those fangames then release them as either original games or franchise spinoffs?
@@mr_m4613 almost none of the time are these people making any profit tho
@@rhombidandy394 yeah but the business is not getting a cut of the money you are making. You dont have to be profiting, as long as you're making money of their IP that's a problem.
In a better world, Nintendo's takedown actions would be illegal. Remember: These lawyers GET PAID for removing fun.
Fans: You're not even going to take down my gam-
Nintendo: I'll make you eat those words!
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
No no, you guys aren't being harsh at all - you're spitting out mad facts, the truth against Nintendo's old fashioned and outdated mindset
It's a shame that so many wonderful fangames have been taken down over the years
Chrono Trigger's fanmade sequel especially
The image at 2:28 sums Nintendo up perfectly
That's made by square enix though
Chrono Trigger isn't owned by Nintendo
That one was on Square Enix, Nintendo has no control over the Chrono series.
to be fair though, Nintendo goes after fan games that would potentially be competition for their official games, which is understandable. Like how they took down that Metroid fan game, to release Samus Returns
2:29
Nintendo: That kid's got a crayon! I feel threatened!
Me with a pen: I'm gonna end this company's whole career
I wish you could finally end that company but sadly we don't power since everything is stopping us from doing things
If there's anything I ever honestly really dislike about Nintendo, it's this exact thing.
They seriously need to learn that we want to be able to give them tributes for their work, and that we are really neither trying to "steal" their copyrighted characters nor are we trying to make our games better than their's.
We want to be able to create fan games under fair use policies, and we just want to be able to give something in return for their hard work on shaping the video game industry as we know it.
Otherwise, well, if they ever go out of business we may or still may not be able to create fan games because the DMCA may still strike them down. Oh well, I guess only time will tell if they'll ever finally open up or not...
P.S. It also doesn't help that us gamers are having to rely on more Indie games because Nintendo is apparently starting to get super greedy with their recent mobile games. (Looking at you two, Dr. Mario World and Mario Kart World Tour...)
do they still strike channels who try to do nintendo lets plays? because that was actually quite scummy and what i personally disliked the most.
I think I'd hate it if someone made a fangame of my successful property, unknowing if they were making money off it or not.
@@unculturedswine5583 Thankfully, no, not anymore.
Me too. I used to play a roblox pokemon fan game called pokemon brick bronze. I didnt think Nintendo would even bothered to take down since I didnt think it was a threat to them. But nope. They deleted almost every pokemon game on roblox.
Fans: *Makes a fan game.*
Nintendo: "IT'S STOMPING TIME."
Gosh, your voice is so adorable! Great videos as well! Sad that Nintendo doesn't care much for the futire of their digital games. Been waiting decades for Official N64 digital games.
I don't see how fan games would threaten their IPs though, Nintendo most of the time makes really good games. They aren't in the same position as Sega where fans can actually make better Sonic games than they can. but I do understand where they're coming from since it's still their IPs in the end.
There would be numerous problems that not only limit potential earnings but cause customer relation nightmares. That doesn't even begin to include how nebulous the legal entanglement that the author would forcibly drag the company into by their own self-inclusion. Do they get to demand royalty payments after the fact as they contributed to the valuation of the intellectual property? It's utter insanity. Complete and utter insanity. Just look to the Witcher series and the author's dispute with CD Projekt Red as an example as to how insane you'd have to be to even humour the notion!
In the eyes of the law, if you do not defend and protect the trademark or copyright you own... you can lose the rights to it, and it becomes public domain.
Then Nintendo would abonden that intellectual property and no more official Mario, Pokemon, Zelda games.
@@boxhead6177 If that's the case then explain why what you describe doesn't happend to other companies who aren't as hostile towards fan creations as Nintendo (that's to say, pretty much the rest of the entire video game industry).
@@boxhead6177 It's my understanding that abandonment only applies to trademark and not to copyright. There were particular ways that copyright could be lost in years prior such as from lack of renewal or lack of notice, but no longer apply to works currently produced. In general, they expire after a set amount of time. See: fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/public-domain/
It's just a legal thing. Like, this is the same with any large company with a property.
They don't like fan games wimce it doesn't get them money
Pussy move from a multi million dollar company. imo fan games don't have as much power as the punishment given implies
It doesn't loose them any money either
And what's worse is that some the games are pure passion projects that are 100% free
@@LeavanDragon sound more like Pokemon franchise.
@S C Ew wtf
Nintendo: You made an unlicensed work based on one of our franchises! Break his legs, boys!
Fan: But I'm already in a wheelchair.
Nintendo: Then flatten his wheels and tip the chair over!
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@UA-camr-xi6qo your everywhere kid
@@UA-camr-xi6qo Where do I start with pointing out how beyond flawed your logic is?
@@UA-camr-xi6qo 9 year old please go away
Nothing "threatens" Nintendo. If they were smart they would get these fan games on the systems I would have paid for am2r on switch in a heart beat
Yes. Mario Royale tho was one I wished stayed.
Or hell just send the guy who made AM2R a copy of Samus Returns eventually, cause lord knows he was probably stoked to hear there was a real reason for that notice.
that would have taken away attention from Nintendo's official version of that game since they remade Metroid 2 (I thinkthat was the one) as Samus Returns. So shutting down a project that would've directly influenced the sales of their newest release makes sense
Fan games are uncreative for using other's IP's instead of creating their own stuff and it shouldn't be rewarded.
@@purkle200 Or maybe people just want to create new scenarios for existing characters out of love for them.
Prrreeeeetttyyy much. I love Nintendo, but even I admit that for every awesome thing they do they're doing something equally horrible behind the curtain. I think Miyamoto's want to be the next Disney is more accurate than he knows.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Why is this video 9 months old & I just got it in my feed 🤔
To tell you the truth; If I actually had the ability to make my own fan games and make them good, I would just forget using someone else's IP and just make my own. A lot of my personal favourite games that came out in the last decade were actually from small teams, sometimes even 1 person, that worked hard on making their own game.
Take Gunman Clive and Stardew Valley for example, these games are amazing and definitely worth your time. And on top of that, since it's your own work, you have zero need to worry about any DMCA take downs.
@kyestar88 any farmer game is similar. you cant really change much of it
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Kid: draws mario
Nintendo: lol thx for the money
Nintendo charged for stealing money off family
Well, I make sure to credit Nintendo for its respective characters everytime I make fan-games. Like this…
"This game uses graphics, characters and audio that are subject to copyright by Nintendo, Square Enix, Intelligent Systems and Raw Fury. However, this game is not an official Square Enix title nor an entry in the Mario universe."
"Genesis of Geno is a non-profit (and standalone) fan-game centered on characters who originate from Super Mario RPG and a few successors."
"Theirs no time to release your games. We wont let you get the chance". - Dark Nintendo
SkycladAngel There ‘s
I feel like some indie dev could intentionally make a fan game, get DMCA'd, and turn it into an original IP while there is still bad press on Nintendo
Basically what Mane6 did with Them's Fighting Herds
That reminds me... At one point there was a Spyro fangame in development called Myths Awaken, before the guy was told he wasn't allowed to make a Spyro fangame like that. So he complied... by changing the Spyro elements to functionally equivalent original models, _but not the gameplay_ (well, except for a couple new tricks placed on top of Spyro's moveset). Now it's called _Zera_ Myths Awaken, starring an axolotl/manta ray pair. Still isn't finished, but the current beta has three full levels and a hub that counts as a fourth.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
Dude I remember you from Colors!3D
@@guestc142 I still use the app, just on Switch now
Sega: fangames are cool we dont delete them
Nintendo: imma shoot you with sueing because of fangame
This is why sega is getting more popular than nintendo
Once again, SEGA does what Nintendon't. Or rather, in this case, SEGA doesn't do what Nintendoes all too often.
*Then you realise the only good games from sega are fan games at this point...*
@@wittykittywoes yeah sure *team sonic racing and sonic mania release*
With the good games they have been releasing and making..., its kinda pathetic
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal
@@UA-camr-xi6qo I am more concerned whether something is right or wrong than whether something is legal or illegal.
Sega does what nintendon’t
like bad games
@@pixelflamex7603 yeah they do.
Bankruptcy?
@@pixelflamex7603 don't forget the amazing fan games
i like nintendo though,
this isn't the 80's and i'm not five
Just to note, Sega hasn't always been above giving out C&Ds. Nintendo may be notorious for it, but Sega actually shut down a Streets of Rage fan remake back in 2011.
Without copyright company will make no money
Reminds me of the fan game Super Mario RPG: The Starlite Worlds. It had hours and hours of gameplay and was almost as good as a real nintendo game. Nintendo had taken down the original download but some youtuber put up their own download (which let me play the game). I wish Nintendo realized how hard some of these people work on their fangames...
Yeah I remember that, it had so much work put into it with the timed attacks and just overall content. Thankfully I got it before that happened but yeah, at least they didn't take down the other one by the same team
I have the first Mario RPG they did, and it was so good. Sad that they crushed Starlite Worlds before I knew it was finished.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
i like how breton delivers the last line. it just seems like something that will inevitably pop up in no context vgst
It’s like Nintendo doesn’t even want fans to enjoy their work… shame.
Considering that Nintendo is rich and powerful enough to do anything, if a fan made game gets a lot of praise, why don’t they try to hire the people who made the game? Kind of like what the Sonic team did when the hired Christian?
Because then they have to pay those people and acknowledge that their skills are level with theirs. Which is, of course, unacceptable.
Nintendo is the same company that took away "Metroid" away from Retro Studios because the "Prime" trilogy was overshadowing the rest of the series, and tried to make Metroid Great and Japanese-Developed Again. That failed hard, and now a decade later, they've been forced to give Metroid back to Retro Studios. Justice is served.
Because Nintendo is Japanese and the fangame makers are typically western lol
@@ElvenRaptor Racism in a nuthshell.
@@emblemblade9245 Again, racism in a nuthshell.
Big brain idea: make Splatoon 3 and Mario Kart 9 with a track builder myself, and see if Nintendo sues me for it. Finally we would have solid information!
but won't that make SO MUCH time that splatoon 3 and mario kart 9 would be officially released considering nintendo has more time in making games
@Isaiah Wallerstedt i would love a new dr mario
@Isaiah Wallerstedt I think they took down the OG version of Mother 3, so the guys working on it had to change almost everything about the game except the character names mostly.
If Nintendo was failed more then Dreamcast, SEGA would do everything, make mario games much better, and allow fan games
Fan games:*exists*
Nintendo:E X T E R M I N A T E!!!
Mario's disappearing and reappearing hair makes me uncomfortable.
We All Cried when Nintendo Almost Sued SML (Creator Of Jeffy) And Nintendo Told Them To Not Use Nintendo Characters. So This Is Why Nintendo Ruined Everything!
Nintendo attacked my channel right after they ended the UA-cam Partnership Program, blocked so many Mario Party mod videos from being public.
Yet they don't seem to mind the vast amounts of Mario fan renders I've done.
That is just ridiculous.
So, Super Mario VR World isn't taken down? If it isn't, would you mind making it available for Quest User's? I use one, and that's the reason Why I wanted to get VRChat. ;-;
@@Mornya Sorry to break it to you, but I don't think there's anything I can really do, not to mention I can't even get in anymore ever since the newer update.
Lawsuit Mario: That kid's got a crayon, I FEEL THREATENED
ME: WHAT THE- LOOOOOOL I'M DEAD
I remember the days of Project Pokemon and Pokémon Brick Bronze on Roblox. They were good games, and they got taken down. For Roblox, they were a gem.
I'm glad you guys are calling out Nintendo for this, as they're the worst as it comes to fan games.
Maybe people should start making fanmade games of Sony's and Microsoft's IPs. And lets see if they don't get taken down. If they don't get taken down, then maybe Nintendo could lighten up. But if they do get taken, then Nintendo has every right to take down fanmade games just like everyone else. No ifs, ands, buts, or complaints about it.
And then when Iwata left.... Nintendo's Gremlins started to crawl out of the woodwork and slam any and everything they feel is a threat; even if it's a drawing by a 5 year old.
Meanwhile Sonic Team revels in fan content and promotes it, just as long as it doesn't make money or became too popular that people would confuse it with official content.
the only reason sonic is still relevant is its fan games. nintendo doest need to be as lenient as sega since they dont have to fear going to obscurity since they have the switch
he didn't leave he died.
A 6 Year Old: (Draws Mario)
Mario: So you have chosen death.
No this isn’t how you are supposed to play the game.
I know that Pirating is illegal but Fan Games are also Illegal, they literally STEAL the characters that are already Trademarked without permission, and use them without the Company knowing. So its illegal!
This is one thing that I believe that Nintendo's former competitor Sega has handled incredibly well. Just look at their flagship series, Sonic The Hedgehog, which has a storied history of positive interactions with the fandom and fan games. Just look at Sonic Mania, essentially a Sonic fan game given a modest budget and official backing, which released to rave reviews! I love Nintendo, but they are so painfully behind the times in many aspects.