"Why do people need Cleopatra to be white..." We don't Jada, we just need Ms. Cleo to be an accurate representation. *YOU* however need Cleopatra to be black.
Why, since finding someone that looks exactly like Cleopatha looked like is extremely difficult. A human is a human. It is just a human acting like a certain inbred Greek.
They NEED her to be black because the truth about their culture and race is boring and, in most cases, non-existent. Think about the average black American. Poor, uneducated, lives in urban slums surrounded by drugs and violence. The majority come from fatherless homes and multiple children from different "baby daddies." These fantasies about being Egyptian kings are exactly that; a fantastic cope from the reality of their meager, pathetic existence. They steal other people's history and culture because they don't have any of their own.
@@DonVigaDeFierro But the narcissist need them be how she feel they have to be in her ilusion. Narcissists are not friends with reality - 🙄 - that's why.
Saying cleopatra and Egyptians were black because they in Africa and most of Africa is black is like saying Martin Luther King was white because most of the US was white
Most of africa was and still is black. Most egyptians today are not black,but some still are but most egyptians black were in ancient times and most live in upper egypt.Most north africans are not black today but some are and most were black in ancient times.
Upper Egypt In Upper Egypt, the predynastic Badari culture was followed by the Naqada culture (Amratian), closely related to the Nubian and other tropical African populations, and the Proto-dynastic kings emerged from the Naqada region. Excavations at Hierakonpolis (Upper Egypt) found archaeological evidence of ritual masks similar to those used further south of Egypt, and obsidian linked to Ethiopian quarry sites. S.O.Y. Keita, a biological anthropologist also reviewed studies on the biological affinities of the Ancient Egyptian population and characterised the skeletal morphologies of predynastic southern Egyptians as a "Saharo-tropical African variant". Keita had also added that whilst Egyptian society became more socially complex and biologically varied, the “ethnicity of the Niloto-Saharo-Sudanese origins did not change”. Kerma culture Craniometric analysis of Kerma fossils comparing them to various other early populations inhabiting the Nile Valley and Maghreb found that they were morphologically close to Predynastic Egyptians from Naqada (4000-3200 BC). The Kermans were also more distantly related to Dynastic Egyptians from Gizeh (323 BC- AD 330) and Predynastic Egyptian samples from Badari (4400-4000 BC), followed by the ancient Garamantes of Libya (900 BC- AD 500), who were found to be most closely related to Neolithic sub-Saharan African samples, and Roman period Egyptians,[29] and secondary to modern Tunisians and Moroccans as well as early osteological series from Algeria (1500 BC), Carthage in Tunisia (751 BC- AD 435), Soleb in Nubia (1575-1380 BC), and Ptolemaic dynasty-era samples from Alexandria in Egypt (323 BC- AD 30). Shomarka Keita, conducted an anthropological study which examined the crania of groups in the North African region which included samples from Kerma, circa 2000 BC, the Maghreb region, circa 1500 BC, and 1st dynasty crania from the royal tombs in Abydos, Egypt. The results of the study determined the predominant pattern of the First Dynasty Egyptian crania was "Southern" or a “tropical African variant” (though others were also observed), which had affinities with Kerma Kushites. The general results demonstrate greater affinity with Upper Nile Valley groups, but also suggest clear change from earlier craniometric trends. The gene flow and movement of northern officials to the important southern city may explain the findings. Garamantes Biological anthropology Marta Mirazón Lahr conducted research on skeletons from Fezzan dating to the Roman era and found that the skeletons most closely matched Neolithic Sahelian samples, from Chad, Mali, and Niger. Lahr associates these remains with the Garamantes, and concluded that the Garamantes had connections with both the Sahel and northern Africa. Nikita et al. (2011) examined the biological affinities of the Garamantes using cranial nonmetric traits and the Mean Measure of Divergence and Mahalanobis D(2). They were compared to other North African populations, including the Egyptian, Algerian, Tunisian and Sudanese, roughly contemporary to them. Overall, three clusters were identified: (1) the Garamantes, (2) Gizeh and Kerma, and (3) Soleb, Alexandrians, Algerians and Carthagians. The analysis concluded that the Garamantes were isolated, with the Sahara playing a role as a barrier to geneflow. The distance between the Garamantes and their neighbors was high and the population appeared to be an outlier. The remains of a young Sub-Saharan African woman, which has been dated to the 1st millennium BCE and possessed a lip plug that is associated with Sahelian African groups, was buried among other Sub-Saharan Africans that were part of the heterogenous Garamantian population. Power et al. (2019) states: "This ornament demonstrates that some Garamantes individuals shared aspects of their material culture with Sahelian societies more broadly, either through migration or contact, while their burial within Garamantes cemeteries shows their integration into the normative funerary rituals of contemporary Garamantian society. The combination of morphometric and isotopic work further reinforces the view that Garamantian society included individuals of diverse geographical origin, some of whom may have been first generation Trans-Saharan migrants." The craniometrics results also identified another sub-group within the Garamantes buried in the Wadi al-Ajjal. The morphology is observed widely among Mediterranean people.
I'm Egyptian . We don't have the most powerful army or rich country to be proud of. Our history is everything to us and we will defend it forever edit: Many of the responses say that I am Arab, not Egyptian. Google is free, you can search for the DNA of the current Egyptians, you will find that the Arabs are 17% and the Egyptians are 68%
As a Greek woman, i feel thankful for restoring our history and culture! Not only you have restored our history but you gave us a fascinating story about a real black queen that we weren't aware of!
@@metatronyt I wanna say as black man myself you are not racist. I’m so sorry for any comments that called you racist. Also as someone who watched your channel before I wanted to know your opinion of God of War Video-game, immortal Phoenix Rising video game. The first two go into Greek mythology. Also assassins creed Valhalla with Vikings and Norse mythology. Hopefully I can see your review of it one day.
@@malattedrose that doesn't matter..the Ptolemy line of pharaohs we're Greek, descended for Alexander's right hand man and fellow Greek buddy Ptolemy. As a reward for a service Alexander gave him and his white Greek heirs Egypt to ruleth over.
The most pathetic thing about this whole situation is that Netflix called a *WHOLE COUNTRY* raycyst, just because they wouldn't put up with that fanfiction they call a documentary.
In Egypt we're not obsessed with skin color, but however we are passionate about our history we appreciate it and we take pride in our ancestors. That's why we are livid over this joke of a documentary, it was never about race we just want the truth to be told. And the audacity this woman has to call us racist is beyond me! Just because we are not on board with what she is trying to sell to the world as facts!! God bless Americans for dealing with idiots like Jada, more power to you guys!
We are facing a Serious problem in the United States with people like Jada Smith is pushing their Afrocentric on everyone as Far as the United States Government if we oppose to their Sickness.."Than we are all Called Racist"
If they are wrong about Cleopatra’s ethnic and racial makeup, think what other facts they have taken literary license with. Although I probably wouldn’t go see it, I would not complain about a black Cleopatra were it not billed as a documentary.
As an American I was I could say the same about Americans.. Sure over half of us have your back, however the latter half.. I don't know. There's just too many Americans who don't even call themselves American, if you know what I mean. They aren't keen to help in the realm of tradition and cultural history.. At least, not culture or history that ISN'T ridden with kale chips, poetry slams, excessive soy and bad ironic pencil thin mustaches..
I was actually in Greece when this "documentary" came out, visiting my husband's family and sightseeing. His grandmother's village overlooks Lake Voulkaria, over which Queen Cleopatra fled from the Romans after the battle of Actium in 31AD (according to the small amount of information I can find). Directly behind the village, runs a tiny canal where it is thought she was able to escape on a shallow barge through to the open sea. It was awesome to be there and imagine such ancient history happening! My husband, who's entire known family lineage is Greek, is most definitely allowed to be annoyed by the fact that Cleopatra was not represented as a Greek person! None of his family have dark skin; they have fair or tanned skin with brown hair and brown or green eyes. His brother even has blonde hair, like his grandfather!
I agree but I have tbh as a Greek Cypriot we do have alot darker skin and I have come across Greek Cypriots with African features but they are definitely a minority. Even if she was dark skinned she was Greek
exactly she needs to stop doing documentaries of history she knows absolutely nothing about. she needs to stick to entanglement documentaries where she's an expert.
Fun fact: Jada Pinkett Smith graduated high school from Baltimore School for the Arts where she majored in dance and theater. Clearly this is someone whose towering intellect and academic accomplishments make her an authority on ancient geopolitics and classical anthropology.
Actually that doesn't matter much as long as you hire good professionals/specialists. Sure, you'll need to trust them, and if they do any mistake it's gonna be bad for you since you're the big name of the show. Now I'll stop talking about these Netflix polemics, I still have PTSD from what Graham Hancock brought to this world.
Ptolomeys. I hope that I.spelled that right. You also had many incursions from other African tribes that didn’t want to do any business with the Egypt of that time. Nefertiti would be a better. The Middle East was also a point in time for trading and warfare. From what I understand Egypt was not a warring country. It wasn’t till later that they had a little bit of conquest. I will do more research on this. The Pharonic lineage is fascinating. Thanks again for your valuable history videos.
Why? There are indeed both sides of the same ugly coin. Eurocentrists do exist my dude. Any significant discovery south of the sahara by archeologists for decades were telling people it was Europeans who actually made the stuff they discovered. Bronze Benin busts and great Zimbabwe off the top of my head
@@metatronyt That head is now kept in the British Museum in London. So I heard of this story before but never knew that the Kandake were led by women warrior queens.
"As a Nigerian AND an African"? I mean sure, you are not incorrect, Nigeria is in Africa, so if you're nigerian you are also african. But I don't think it was necessary to say that extra?
Jada is essentially telling young black people “we have no history of which we can be proud, therefore we are going to “culturally appropriate” a queen from another culture.” And, if you don’t accept it, you will be canceled for being racist. When you enroll in the ‘Jada Pinkett-Smith School of History and Stuff’, you will learn that the following people were, in fact, black: Abraham Lincoln George Washington Mary, Queen of Scots Queen Victoria Walt Disney Henry Ford Wilbur and Orville Wright Marie Antoinette Julius Caesar And many more!
Albert Einstein is black, Cristiano Ronaldo is black, Planck is black, Alexander the great is black, Ashoka is black, Gandalf is black, God is black, Monitor screen is black omg someone fix the monitor I just bought it damn it!
Honestly, I wouldn't call that an entirely good faith read on her character in this *specific* situation (which is to be expected given what people already have seen about her in other situations). Objectively, it is obvious that we have our own history if we want to just start at American history alone. Where things tend to get jumbled is everything before. We get a lot of people pretty much telling stories based off hearsay, or based on the logic that depending on the region, you're more likely to find darker skinned people vs white. That's where we get the whole white vs black Jesus debate. Cleopatra being Egyptian, and therefore, black, was just one of those messages spread as part of that Hotep rhetoric. I can only have empathy for how people came to believe what they do over the years because it's obvious why, but that's why we try to educate each other in good faith where and when we can. I mean, it's not like we're singing he entirety of the national anthem either
@@normandy2501 thank you for that response - my response was more tongue in cheek While I do agree with what you’ve said, I still take issue with Jada culturally appropriating a historical figure. There is plenty of evidence that Cleopatra was not black and there is evidence that Egypt, while part of the continent of Africa, was not occupied by black Africans, but rather middle eastern ‘Africans’ (Egyptians). This is the problem with the never ending race baiting sickness in the US which is spreading to the rest of the world. IMO, Jada is sending a horrible message to young black people - especially girls - that is, we don’t have anyone to be proud of in our history, so we’re just going to grab Cleopatra. People can’t have it both ways - they can’t scream about appropriation (ironically most of the appropriation claims turn out to be untrue - i.e. the great braid debate) and then turn around and claim a historical figure is an ethnicity which history clearly shows they were not. While it’s kind to have empathy, one must also remember the group being insulted - in this case, the Egyptians. They’re being told ‘accept our version of reality - we are claiming one of your historical heroes and making her one of ours - or we’ll call you racist.’ I find it offensive that so much focus is put on race in the first place, especially in the historical context of a “documentary.’ It’s like CRT. We don’t care about the truth - if it helps some people feel better about themselves, we’re going to teach it. All that does is create hurt on the other side and further the divide. It’s just not necessary for us to do this anymore. Putting another group down in order to elevate yourself has never worked in the history of the world and it won’t now - regardless of how much a privileged bald actress stamps her feet and regardless of what someone’s grandmother told them. Your black vs blond/blue eyed Jesus is a perfect example of how the West has done this before. People find comfort in what is familiar to them - I get that - but reality is important. Another good example is Denzel Washington in Macbeth. Macbeth is a Middle Ages Scottish king - clearly not black - but Macbeth was a fictional story. What I saw of Washington’s portrayal of Macbeth was powerful. A great actor makes you forget about race and anything else.
Hi, I am a 70 year old great grandmother and through self learning have become an amateur but passionate historian. I live and breathe medieval history. I just wanted to stop by and say how glad I am to have discovered your wonderful posts on UA-cam. Measured, fair, interesting and extremely enlightening. I have corrected my thinking on many things with your help so thank you so much for your intelligent unbiased talks, long may you continue.
Retired archaeologist here, who has worked at Meroe, Qasr Ibrim, and upriver of Napata. The amazing story of Amanirenas was the first thing I thought of when Jada Pinkett Smith claimed to be telling the histories of strong African queens. Just a couple of clarifications. The depictions of Amanishakhato and Amanitore as warrior queens holding the topknots of multiple prisoners was actually a common trope in Pharaonic/Kushite iconography, and is not evidence that those queens ever engaged in battle. In fact, they probably didn't. Amanirenas, however, was a warrior queen for sure. The deal which the Romans came to with her and her son Akinidad ensured Meroe's independence and set up a long era of reasonable trade relations with the Romans, and a very prosperous first century AD for Meroe. Amanitore and her coregent Natakamani did so much building that we called them the Dynamic Duo, with indications of Roman cultural influence becoming a fashionable strand in the strong local culture. Which already was, by the way, an interesting amalgam of purely Sudanese elements and strong pharaonic Egyptian elements dating back to the New Kingdom conquest of Kush. (Note: Egypt's 25th Dynasty was a Kushite line that took over as as pharoahs of Egypt until the Assyrian invasion drove them out.) Indeed, in a sense, a version of pharaonic culture survived longer in the Sudan than it did in Egypt. Kudos to you, Metatron, for bringing the fabulous Amanirenas narrative to the fore.
I heard of this woman! The fact that we got this garbage instead of telling a lesser know story is infuriating! We dont know a ton about her so they could have speculated all they wanted. But no. You have to take a greek woman and black wash her.
I’m a black American woman and I approve this message. When I saw the trailer for the documentary, my first question was why is cleopatra being portrayed by a black woman when we all know she was not black. If the goal was to portray ancient black queens then she should have chosen an ancient black queen. Not a Greek one. It’s confusing and it spreads false information. I have not bothered to watch.
Yes but look at Hamilton. My little brother was confused that some of the founding fathers must have been black, based on Hamilton (we watched the musical online). The truth is that these men owned slaves. I don’t think we should change all of this. It opens dialogue. Yes they owned slaves as was custom at the time in numerous countries and why a war was fought in this country about 90 years after its founding, to free the enslaved. As a country, we no longer accepted it. Racism has not left us, sadly, but society is evolving. To understand the lessons of the past, we must learn REAL history. Yes, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin etc all owned slaves but they did create a country that many people are literally dying to live in. So in that case, they were successful. We have to accept the good with the bad and try to learn from it. We should never ever change history even if we think history might have been better some other way. All that said, I would love to learn more black history. More history of sub Saharan Africa. There is a very long and rich history there. I loved this story you told. Never heard about it before.
@@WyattRyeSway I happen to love the play Hamilton but you definitely have a point. It can be misleading for those unfamiliar with the history of the founding fathers.
@@Khate999 Cleopatra: Claims to be an accurate documentary. Hamilton: Has Lin Manuel Miranda, a PRcan, dropping mixed-beat raps. I’m sorry but if Hamilton confused your brother’s understanding of history, he probably needs to wear a helmet and floatees while eating soup…
I like your point about why she didn't make a documentary about a REAL black queen. I'm from Africa and in matter of fact there were a lot of black female leaders in African tribes, the problem is their names and stories aren't well documented and for Jada to make a documentary about one of them, she will have to leave her comfortable mansion and travel to the savannas of Africa and make real research that will probably take years. But why do that? when she can just print a wiki page and make Cleopatra black and call everyone racist for not liking her "work".
Talk about Queen Andromeda from Ethiopia according to the Hebrew Israelites from the Hebrew scriptures of Psalms..but no Jada always gotta be narcissistic and blackwash everything i’m tired of Black-Americans..
I like to think that this is exactly what happened. Jada choose the easy way instead of trying to do something hard and more rewarding for her actual goals. Your comment was articulated very well.
I admit I never been to Africa, I cant' afford to go to Africa. All the information I can get is from documentaries. But frick, at least I knew Cleo was Greek, and I knew that there are actual African badasses out there, and as we uncover more information about Nubia/Kush, I am sure we can write something from the ground up about them, even if it's historic fantasy.
@@Andrew-mv2qbit’s amazing how many black people are into historical revisionism. I guess it’s a response to being enslaved and feeling insecure about our history . Some ideas like the one that says black people were the original Americans and weren’t brought from Africa but were already here when Europeans arrived is pretty wacky.
I am Kenyan, East African and I fully agree with You. I stand against historical misrepresentation whether it's done to my history or someone else's. I mean, Queen Nzinga of Angola has an arguably more beautiful story.
Season one was Queen Nzinga, and wow, did they butcher her story. Most people don't know the history, so no comment was made on it. Buy for us who know her story it was horrible and a disgrace it definitely was not a documentary. If they called it fiction, I'd have no problem with it.
Still hoping for an update from the 2010 Cleopatra documentary where National Geographic was following an excavation site that may have been her lost tomb.
Very enjoyable documentary about the Black Egyptian Queen CLEOPATRA and I learned a lot. I didn't know before the documentary that she gave birth to 4 children, including 1 by Julius Caesar before he was murdered, and 3 by Marc Anthony. Also people often mentioned her beauty, but I found out that she was not only beautiful but also very intelligent and strong witted.. I loved her beautiful thick dark hair, and all of those beautiful and exotic styles she wore.. Her skin looked so beautifully brown, similar to good tasting honey. I learned that Egypt during Cleopatra's time was 100% INDEPENDENT and had absolutely no relations with GREECE, which meant that their control of Egypt was not that long, and the Black Egyptian culture and WORSHIP of their GODS never changed and remained intact, instead, it was the Ancient Egyptians who changed the Invading Greeks to accept their culture, unlike how we saw so many colonized nations of the past ADAPTING to colonizing invaders cultures, language, Religions, dress codes, etc. The ancient Black Egyptians were very TRUE TO THEMSELVES, and rather than changing, they CHANGED THE INVADERS, because they were the true ancient geniuses of the world.. All people will get different impressions from documentaries, it is the educational awareness which differentiates all of us..
Did we really expect a woman who cheated on her husband, and then went on national television with said husband to explain how it wasn’t actually her fault, to be anything other than disingenuous?
A typical narc muve - no mater what shit they do - it's never ever their fault... Gaslighting, victime blaming, blame shifting, lying, pity play + no compassion, shame or remorse.... The same old game...
I can’t speak for anyone else but I wasn’t surprised. I didn’t expect her to have a sudden attack of integrity. She has proven that race is more important than honesty or historical accuracy to her.
As an Egyptian Nubian This video made me double happy 😂 Like 1. Yes, Cleopatra wasn't black and i hate the whole u.s black washing it's disgusting 2. Not a lot of people talk or know about Nubia and kush, so thank you❤
@@NoelleTakestheSky Yet, you let those people and their agenda control your congress, your white house, your policies and your media. You are letting them control your country and control you
The Black Queen’s history you taught us in this video is amazing. That’s sad that this history could’ve been told instead of misrepresenting Cleopatra.
Cleopatra spoke several languages, including Koiné (ancient Greek), Egyptian and Aramaic. At that time, the Greeks in Egypt spoke only Koiné and refused to learn the local languages, as a political demand, like any self-respecting invader. In contrast, the Egyptians were bilingual following the Persian occupation, and also spoke Aramaic (the administrative language during the occupation). A Greek-Macedonian mother would never have been able to teach her daughter to speak Egyptian and Aramaic, because she didn't speak them. Only an Egyptian mother could have taught Cleopatra to speak Egyptian and Aramaic. Cleopatra therefore had Egyptian blood. Cleopatra therefore had African blood. As for her skin colour, it could have been anything like that of Rashida Jones, Quincy Jones' daughter.
@@gy2gy246your logic has so many holes in it... you do realise the royal household was very diverse, and there were wetnurses and tutors to teach Cleopatra the local language. By your logic, all the royals in history that had a mother from another country could not speak their native tongue because it was not their mother's tongue! And also Egyptians were of course not black, like in Sub-Saharan African. Even nowadays, there are so many people that can speak several languages. How could they do that, if their mother did not teach it to them? I assume you can only speak English...
@@metatronyt indeed well done. I knew you were going to.mention the Kendake I didn't know how balanced you would be. 😂 but you definitely did your research so respect as always.
I knew about amanitore, because of civilization 6. got really interested (as I usually do) about the people I was playing, and read about her history. I knew about the temple and the caesar's head and found it absolutely amazing, it's one of those things that happened in real life that no fiction could imagine more creatively... the sad part about this video is that now I want SO BAD a historically accurate tv series about the nubian lineage of queens 😆
@@metatronyt Why are you doing all this SocJus stuff? Yeah, you're fighting the "good fight", but I started following you to see vids about HEMA and the like. Did you run out of topics? Did you run out of European/asian martial history to talk about? Unsubscribed 😂
@@metatronyt you are dare I say seeming racist to bro because it's actually real archeological evidence of Cleopatra being of mixed decent such as the actress who played her
@@16ClarkKent Show me the evidence and I’ll retract my public statement, but it needs to be compelling evidence. All the “evidence” I’ve seen, is not compelling at all in fact I wouldn’t even consider it circumstantial. Moreover using the word “racist” to try and cancel me or label me in a negative light so that I would agree is a form of intimidation. That’s not how academia works and most importantly it’s not how freedom works. That’s tyranny.
Yeah. It's a shame they are so inept. Indeed if you just bothered to do a bit of research you could find a lot of stories "fitting their narrative". But ofcource it's like Pinkett Smith all but basically said. It isn't really the point in any of this. The point *is* the political statement. They see a course of action and they know the results. And then they do just that. Sadly (for them) the point is to get people angry because of their disrespecting and then turn it to something else. They are that petty and pathetic.
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted. Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Using information that racist came up with as a base yeah you can make the statement you just made! But it’s not dealing in truth as well hole! On the basis of the racist ancient Egyptians were Arabs! Even though all the real evidence points to them being black Africans but if the standard is what some racist wrote in a book then it’s easy to say I proved you wrong because all one has to do is stick to the racist talking points! Well let me drop a bombshell on you people in the late 1800 all archeologists agreed that ancient Egyptians were black African (you simply look this up) but when the racist whites heard this they went right out to and made these lies that most of you hold on to till today one day soon all you bigots will be proven 1000% wrong and will have no choice but state the obvious that they were black Africans and not Arabs! There still are black African Egyptians living in Egypt right now those Arabs are not Egyptians! They never spoke the language they built no pyramids where they came from the never ever wrote in hieroglyphs and didn’t even have a clue about this stuff until the racist white folks became interested in them I’m the late 1800s before that these Arabs called themselves Arab practiced Arab culture spoke Arabic wrote Arabic and are Muslims! What more do I need to point out they are not painted on no walls in no tombs all you see is brown skin people and it’s only one race of people who have brown skin and that is black people arab skin is white in reality! I’m order for them to fit into being ancient Egyptians you would have to some real great mental gymnastics just to get them close to being ancient Egyptians common sense would say if you had to go thru all that to be a people then the odds are you are not those people same way it is in America the country is majority white with a little of the original people still around the original people have been completely erased and replaced by white people it’s the same with the ancient Egyptians
their job is to push afrocentrist views, not to educate people. according to afrocentrism everything that is not deliberatly white is black. aborigines are black, various south east asian tribes are black, the americas are black (somehow the managed to build boats and reach the americas before the settlers from asia arrived) even japan and parts of china are black in their world. and by black they are not speaking of skin colour, they are speaking about sub-saharan african cultures and civilisations that mysteriously crumbled when the europeans arrived and where therefore never mentioned by white missionaries or other white people. and if the cracks begin to be too obvious its the good old racism card combined with crazy conspiracy theories, because then archeology is a white intervention to keep the blacks down and lie to them about their great past as rules of the world. its pure fucking madness and i wish i would have never stumbled across this chesspool of maniacs, racist and idiots. in their quest to be someone, to be the successor of someone other than a bronze age farmer living in the 16th-19th century they became what they claim to fight... a bunch of racist fucktards.
No! You just educated me at 60 on a marvelous warrior queen! Thank you and yes sir you're correct a very sad miss on Jadas part in changing facts. Hollywood is a joke and its new movement is laughable, this country needs real help 😢
This is so fascinating. Africa has a lot of very, very interesting history that's not often portrayed in media. It would be amazing to actually show us a much less seen side of history. Thank you, Metatron. I really love learning these rather "obscure" bits of history
7:50 As a black person, I cannot agree more. It's so sefreshing to actually see there are still reasonable people with reasonable thinking! This whole video is like an oasis in the deseret of this culture war nonsesnse.
Sadly, there are plenty of fascinating black female personages from the history of Sub-Saharan Africa that they could have done a real service by bringing into the public consciousness, but they went for a far easier target. A damned shame.
@@kingleech16 A shamefull display indeed, and disgrace both to black history and white history, and history in general. She wanted to empower black people but this is a disservice for the black community aswell. I am glad that "every side" just rejects this bs.
The same goes with Disney replacing Ariel instead of doing a movie about Mami Wata or any of the other mermaid stories/legends that African people have.
"Oh, Lawd! Why would that be a good thing to you, Amir? You're Egyptian." The fact that Cleopatra wasn't actually Egyptian is one of the great things about her. The Ptolemaic dynasty was Greek and was given rulership of Egypt after Alexander the Great conquered it and during their reign they pretty much maintained their greek customs and not one of them bothered to learn egyptian, the language of the people they ruled. Cleopatra was the exception. She loved her people and learned their language, their history and customs and really made an effort to blend Greek and Egyptian cultures in a way that her predecessors didn't try. She was not of Egyptian heritage but fought for the prosperity of Egypt and her people loved her for that. Why would you want to take that away? Should we really only love and admire people of the same race and culture as us?
'Should we really only admire people of the same race and culture as us?' - When it comes to 'people of color' nowadays, that's _exactly_ what the case seems to be. And more than that - white people aren't allowed to have heroes or people of their own to admire. They get called 'colonizers' or they owned slaves, despite the fact that such was the way of the world at the time. So their statues are torn down and white children are taught that they're inherently racist in public schools. Introducing a historical hero who happens to be white is called 'perpetuating White Supremacy' now. It's so far out of hand it's ridiculous, and it was only a matter of time before they started race swapping actual white historical figures. They've already burned through a lot of our fictional heroes, often tearing them down along the way.
To me she may as well have said "you're French, why do you care if Marie Antoinette was Austrian?" It's history. Accuracy isn't about preference, it's about the many lessons we learn from unearthed truths.
I have tried and tried and tried to explain this to people for at least a decade, eventually I get tired of getting called a racist simply because I used to be a History Major in college, and just gave up.
I get you bro, but just like Metatron said the word racist, bigot, misogyny are so overused that it lost all meaning and power, so be proud that you want to fight for the truth!
It's so refreshing to see someone who can express themselves, has really investigated the matter and can argue without getting personal. I just discovered you today and I can't stop watching one video after the other. Thanks for your hard work!
And on top of that, he was very courteous. I am a black man and a history researcher from West Africa. I assure you, there has never been a such thing as "black warrior queen" in our history! This exist only in American female rap music and later in Hollywood! In fact, there were not even "black warrior king" in the African regions from which black Americans descended. The people of those regions were the most peaceful humans on the earth and did not know anything about wars or fighting! They used their primitive weapons only for hunting animals... After all, if there were black warrior kings in Africa really! there wouldn't be any black Americans in the first place ;)
FINALLY!!! Someone mentions Queen Amanirenas!! She's one of the coolest rulers in history and I've always been baffled by how the same people who complain about not having stories about black queens have never thought to make a movie about her.
It's just that people never bother to watch further than western/European culture. Africa is such an incredibly diverse and interesting continent with many amazing cultures. Why not make movies based on this instead of remaking a story we've heard a million times already but altering the historical narrative for diversity's sake? I think it's insulting even, that we ignore all the amazing stories and diverse cultures other places have to offer... Black Panther has shown that it works, the fact that movie producers did not become inspired by that just baffles me.
she is not a bantu so for african american she is not kin, probably locked like the royal family of ethophia, who are closer related to europeans than to western african.
That is because all of the trash movies coming out today are all agenda geared. An agenda to change our history to fit whatever narrative the Elite want to push. Since 2020 I feel like we all have been part of a massive social experiment by these freaks b/c they are causing way to much chaos on purpose with their rhetoric of hate and push for D.E.I. above all else.
I’m not surprised modern Egyptians do not want to be identified as black because Eurocentrism has invented a racial hierarch; White, Brown (Asian) and black, where middle East and Egyptians do not neatly fit. The question is not whether Cleopatra was black but why they don’t want to acknowledge the possibility she was black - they cant bear to admit that modern civilization might have started with black people.
Hi from Greece and thank you for this video. Cleopatra was of Greek origin, descendant of the Ptolemy's royal dynasty, who rouled Egypt after Alexander's the Great death. There's something weird about the Smiths...
Thank you. As a person of Greek ancestry, this “documentary” makes me sick. If you want to make a fantasy picture, then cast whoever you like, but if you are trying to re-write history, and write the Greeks out of it? No thanks!
It’s just wishful thinking of a bunch of racist that want history to be the way they are because they cannot relate to people unless they are of their own race.
As a Nubian-Egyptian, i salute you for your efforts shedding light on our Nubian history which is often an under-told part here in our education system. I also would like to add that Nubians (specifically Egyptian Nubians) are intertwined and bonded with other Egyptians in many ways (If you're a Nubian, you're a celebrity LOL). Also the old Nubian language was used in 6th of October war in 1973 as a code for communications between different units in the military. Also, i wanna state that here in Egypt people, in fact, don't recognize race as Americans do, you're either Egyptian or not regardless. And yes, we have some nationalists who say a bunch of other stuff that i don't wanna get into... and also yes, we Nubians have a bunch of problems here. That Netflix movie sparked outrage here from literally everyone regardless of color.
@@onlythetruth883 it's all Egypt, there's no such thing as being unwelcome in certain parts or more welcome in other parts Egypt is not a divided country being called Nubian is not a political identity here in egypt it's just a friendly way to identify which region in the country you are originally from for example calling yourself "iskandarani" means you're from Alexandria "Bahrawy" means you're from El Beheira Governorate specifically, and more commonly it means you're from the north if people from the south are using the word because "Bahr" means sea in Arabic and yes it's true that Nubians are very popular in fact it's kind of a tradition to bring a Nubian band for a celebration before the wedding called "Henna" skin color is not a thing here, this is how Americans think if an African american is calling light skin Egyptians invaders, a Nubian person will be just as outraged and upset about it
My brother, when I see such questions like your question, I feel sad. I am from the south of Egypt, from Aswan, a man with black skin, but even black and white Egyptians have the same features in appearance with different colors, in relation to the difference in geography between northern and southern Egypt and all of Egypt since its inception. There is no racism in it as we see it in other places. Like America and South Africa, Arabs, Nuba, Muslims, and Christians, all are Egyptians, and there is no place for one allowed and forbidden for another, and there is no distinction between group from group or sect from sect. It differs from the south. Egypt, since it is on the Mediterranean Sea, you will find that its people are white, brown, black, and so on, just like all the riparian countries on the Mediterranean Sea, such as Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, and Mauritania.
Because the Americans have got no history of their own. They say they kicked our buts(British) not mentioning most of our forces were fighting in Europe and we did not have the will to fight our cousins in USA. Plus they had help from the French and Spaniards
I love how these comments are filled with “Americans are dumb and woke based on my personal opinion.” That so perfectly encapsulates why media like this works. It’s so easy to make people believe what they already want to believe.
@@johnrichardson7652 IKR. The only history Americans have is completely dominating the world in record time. Brits 100% have more history and tooth decay.
I'm not black, but well delivered indeed. What a phenomenal story AND interestingly delivered, taking us along the clues and their interpretation. I'm supposed to be working but I guess... I'm on a binge now.
Cleopatra spoke several languages, including Koiné (ancient Greek), Egyptian and Aramaic. At that time, the Greeks in Egypt spoke only Koiné and refused to learn the local languages, as a political demand, like any self-respecting invader. In contrast, the Egyptians were bilingual following the Persian occupation, and also spoke Aramaic (the administrative language during the occupation). A Greek-Macedonian mother would never have been able to teach her daughter to speak Egyptian and Aramaic, because she didn't speak them. Only an Egyptian mother could have taught Cleopatra to speak Egyptian and Aramaic. Cleopatra therefore had Egyptian blood. Cleopatra therefore had African blood. As for her skin colour, it could have been anything like that of Rashida Jones, Quincy Jones' daughter.
It’s embarrassing how you gave us an amazing history lesson of a black queen with the resources at your disposal and they couldn’t do a decent documentary with millions at their disposal. 🤦♂️😑
Are you listening, Netflix? Maybe you should give your money and support behind ACTUAL historians, like Metatron, for a documentary series instead of this mess.
Yes, agreed! This is perfect for a documentary, specifically because the vagueness of the Roman accounts, the statue, the letter and the narrative beats Metatron already points out! It would have been easier and Egyptians, especially those from the south, might actually like such an inspiring piece of history being brought to light! Egypt would probably welcome it. So sad, with only a little effort, as Metatron said, this documentary could have been empowering, uplifting and inspiring.
Loved the story about the African Queen Line. They should get actual historians to make these, not random Hollywood people who have nothing to do with history. This is representation, showing the lesser known stories and facts of history, not washing, in any color, the histories of other people.
the fact of the matter is they clearly don't think it would attract viewers, I'm not american but they seem to be obsessed with claiming ancient Egypt as black and I think its all about the glamour and the style. you don't really see anything based on black history the only thing I can think of was the ITV show Shaka Zulu which I loved but I was a child at the time and have not seen it since I do remember it having some magic in it so take it with a pinch of salt.
What was provided was a brief description and it was captivating! Could you imagine a docuseries or movie!? I'm not sure what's worse: inaccurate films or neglecting potential accurate ones.
@@FFNOJG Fact, I agree. But Hollywood are the poor, submerged in scarcity not consulting with Historians. Hollywood also distributes this scarcity by neglecting the public solid, accurate, educational films.
@@GreatSageSunWukong They aren't concerned with actually making the best film possible, or the most accurate film. they are in a cult, and the best currency to them is one of adherence to the religion. You have to remember this religion also created D.I.E (diversity, inclusion, equity (this word is gibberish)) Jobs which add nothing, and are just parasites leaching money off the system. they are akin to paying a tithe to the church back in the day.
Maybe its because I'm a history nerd, or maybe its because I just really enjoy Metatron's content but someone needs to give this man a budget for his own documentary. This was an awesome historical account of the Kandake.
There were a couple of them, with really interesting stories; Ms Jada 'entanglement' Pinkett-Smith could have told one of them, all of them - hell, I said it in another comment a week or so back- if they wanted to use the concept of an alliance between the two, giving the name recognition of Cleopatra as a springboard to explore the Candaces of Meroe, I would have been interested in this series - as it is, that trailer showed me all I needed to know about what kind of historical adherence she was going to apply to this...
Celebrities have grown to believe that being famous means that everything they say has value and credibility and their fame means they can never be wrong.
As a historian, even I didn't know the story of the black queen of Kush. That would have been a heck of a better use of Pinkett-Smith's time. I did, however, know that Cleopatra was Greek. I love your channel. I am now obsessed. Thank you. I love learning something new every day.
If you think about it since the term queen is quite euro and middle Eastern centric, any black wife of a culture ,with effectively the same absolute and often god given power is a if not an actual queen, a "queen". Have fun looking up other black "queens". Cleopatra is only a queen because she is of Greek ancestry for example, all the other Pharoes and their wives had the same level of power if not more, the rest is semantics.
We stand with our brothers and sisters in Egypt!!! We will not and CANNOT allow thier history to be erased. If we allow their history to be erased, forgotten and rewritten than ALL of human history will follow the same fait. Keep it going our Egyptian friends! You guys are a beacon for the world
I as a leftwing Black man am constantly getting into brawls with the Black movement and large swaths of the left in general over this. We cannot condemn the right for rewriting history and overlooking scholarly research if we do the same when it suits us.
Indeed. And as you know, if you want to destroy a country, start with denying its history. With that in mind, one can understand why Egyptians view Afrocentrism from the West with a lot of apprehension.
@@cecaloather8701 I don't even think it's some concerted effort to destroy anything. For most it's more out of desperation. They want so badly to reclaim their identity, they don't much care about the truth. And aided by postmodern thinking they may even come to the conclusion that the truth doesn't matter. Enter shrewed millionnaires like Jada Pinkett, crazy to make a few quid in the easiest and laziest way possble and, well... here we are.
You’re wasting your time even bothering with this crap. Even as a black dude. I have ways I can perceive grievances in my life, too, and I just don’t give a crap anymore. I just want to be left alone…. BY EVERYONE! Left and right! Top and bottom! Two halves of the same coin! All a waste of time.
Your channel is one of the few that truly promotes humanism, the arts and history. You have done more for education and research than all these so called documentaries and activists. Keep up the amazing work my man ! :D
Absolutely this. I don't care which race or culture it is when it comes to history. If I'm going to learn about it, I want the most *honest* and faithful retelling of events; no matter how the events look in the modern day or how/why they took place.
Humanism? Is the original dialectic of the absolute disaster we see in western society/humanity today. It reigned for 3,500 years before Christianity and didn't work out to well. The MANTRA OF HUMANISM "Morality is natural, it is a social convention and convenience, not a divine command. There is no need to control instincts and emotions; they are commands of nature. The purpose of life is to live; and the only wisdom is happiness". We're all "livin" that's for sure. While the humanists try to kill everyone on the planet.
In case it wasn't noticed. The cover picture is all shades of brown and the actress is made to look as dark as possible. This show was all about Jada wanting to make Cleopatra appear black and when the trailer shows an old lady saying 'my grandmother told me when I was a child, no matter what they teach you in school, Cleopatra was black' This is the kind of 'evidence' they used to make an 'historical documentary'. It's all because of the lie propagated within the African American community that they are all descendants of kings and queens. It's not just Egypt. Some of them think they are Moors. Just because you can't figure out your identity, doesn't give you permission to steal someone else's. What is really sad is that if you live outside of the USA, you probably have a better knowledge of US history than Americans do.
It's hilarious because even as a kid I knew that black/African people had to be complicit in the slave trade in some way. We were taught that they were "brought over". They weren't hunted, captured, and dragged over here from Africa (what part was never specified); they were _bought._ We were never taught in school who they were bought _from,_ but it was obvious to me: Every other group of people had leaders; why _wouldn't_ Africa? And if they didn't want their people being taken away, there would've been a war/battle. But there wasn't. Buuuut, if you bring any of that up, the conversation is swiftly returned to damning "the white man", and all talk of Africa is removed from the conversation. It's a hell of a blow to your pride to realize that your ancestors were literal goods, I guess. *TL;DR:* I think it's hilarious and sad that even a child could figure out that anyone with slave ancestry were, in fact, NOT kings/queens. Even beyond slavery, not everyone can be a king/queen, anyway. That defeats the purpose of a king/queen!!
@TaoScribble amazingly good points. And to caveat, schools also propagate the lie that Africans were the first slaves to be brought over during the Atlantic Slave Trade. When the Irish were the first slaves to be shipped to the Americas and surrounding countries/ islands. This was long before the AST. But because the Irish are white, we just omit that part of history cause it serves zero purpose for the agenda.
They did the same thing with Cleopatra in 1963, a certain group getting a kick out of replacing Cleopatra with their own ethnicity in retribution for their perceived historic oppression and slavery.
Man you reignited my interest in History, thank you so much. Academia made my interest in my favourite subjects like History and IT vanish. But youtubers like you reignite that spark and make me wanna learn more. Thanks man
What I love most about this episode, is that you did not spend the entire time tearing down the Netflix 'documentary' and instead presented what could have been. And, might I add, with a flare and attention to detail that only you can present! I would love to see you do an episode on the Toureg. These North African peoples have always fascinated me. Or the Nabateans. 🙂
Yeah. This is an excellent example of how to closed fisted punch the SJW movement in the face. I can't think of a more brutal punishment to their ideology in recent history.
Absolutely, on both counts. The problem for the people behind this Cleopatra travesty is that to present a true story, such as the one about the Kandake, would have required research a bit deeper than 'Egypt's in Africa, right, so they must have been black'. Also of course, the general public, whose knowledge of history is limited, would not know of the Kandake, or probably even of the Kingdom Of Kush, but they do know Cleopatra. Sadly we live in denuded times where exploring lesser known pathways on TV is a non-starter (unless of course it can be spun into current political fashions).
@@ShanghaiRooster people know about cleopatra because shes so represented in documentaries and historical fantasies (or just fantasies that have her in it...for reasons...). Media has been able to advertise Cleo in a very interesting way to get even young people who dont know about her drawn in. They can do the same with those queens. They just chose not to.
Maybe Hollywood should give Jada Pinkett Smith the role of Rapunzel as a way of cultural appropriation and inclusivity of people with baldness. Ok, Will Smith will slap me now xD
Netflix has billions of dollars, but you managed to an interesting story of a powerful black woman (the kandake, a Kushite) that is backed by history. Thanks, the world needs more historians like you.
@@MrAlwaysRight I'm sorry, did you actually watch this video? Metatron's whole video is about a Kushite (who are black) queen who defied Rome... based on historical evidence. Finish a video before commenting please.
Yes, and she is diminishing the importance of black history by falsely claiming that cleopatra was black, rather than actually focusing on real historical black figures.
Loved it, always great hearing about other history not covered in the mainstream. African history in particular seems to be a massive empty space that must be filled with other treasures like this. Thank you for your dedication to sharing this.
You are amazing. As a white women, the second half of this video was inspiring! I really really hope someone, somewhere would make a tv/film about these women. It would be so much more interesting learning about someone most people haven't heard of, rather than retelling the same stories over and over, changing facts to suit your agenda. For Jada to basically say that REAL black history isn't interesting enough to make a film about, must surely feel like a slap in the face to black women.
Real black history isn’t interesting. Lots of cannibalism, murder, grape and living in mud huts. They are not the same as other humans and it’s tiresome playing this charade.
The inaccuracy is infuriating but on top of that all the crying about cultural appropriation and then this... Hypocrisy is so grotesque. Someone should do a documentary about Jada Pinket Smith and have a Greek woman play her.
@@evag4535 Ancient Egyptians were *definitely not* black African. There may have been _some_ , because of trade and such, but they weren't indigenous black African, its not a God given fact, nor is "Cleopatra" the netflix "documentary" a respectable representation of history.
They can dress it up all they like, but it reeks of insecurity and desperation. Nobody truly believes Cleo was black, it stems from a group desperate for historical relevance.
Especially when there's plenty of actual black African queens in history to portray. Then again, look what happened when they tried that with "The Woman King", lol.
Actually, there are people that do, not saying that they're correct, mind you, but you really shouldn't underestimate people's stupidity and willful ignorance.
Section 2 is cool. I love historians like you because I learn the mist fascinating stories. But also, you've delivered not only a better example of what Mrs. Robinson tried to do, but a better story for the Woman King. I would love to see this as a movie, just as you described it.
You really hit the nail on the head! The ironic thing is, I literally knew nothing about this Kandake, and I REALLY wanna know more now! She NEEDS her own documentary or show. Making Cleopatra black is racist, stupid and quite frankly does exactly the opposite of what they wanted...
What’s funny is that Gal Gadot is actually from the eastern Mediterranean. Her appearance is far more similar to the actual Cleopatra than the actress they chose.
@@robo5013 “and supports Israel’s policy on Gaza and the Palestine” I don’t follow Gal or anyone from Hollywood to a great degree, but I can honestly say I have never heard her speak out in favor for any specific Israeli policy. Like most Israelis, including those on the Left, she doesn’t want Israel to cease to exist. Which I understand to some people not committing national collective suicide is indistinguishable from supporting every bad thing done to Palestinians, but that simply isn’t so
Cleopatra wasn't known for being of grandiose beauty. Gadot is pretty. At the very least her skin color is certainly closer to what Cleopatra would have looked like,
@@benjaminr6153 She's been asked about those things when she's home by the Israeli press. She doesn't stump about America spouting Israeli propaganda, but the Egyptians started protesting her casting in the role for the new movie as soon as it was announced and the SJW's here picked up on it and began to talk about it too, on top of her not being black.
I'm Black, and I love your definition of "racist"😂😂 I didn't know about this story. But I burst out laughing when you told where the emperor's bronze head was!!!🤣🤣😘
I remember I was watching a streamer on twitch playing trackmania (a racing game) when someone asked him something like "are you a socialist or a leftist" and he said "this is a trackmania stream; I'm a racist- a racer" was pretty funny watching him get flustered. The wordplay makes sense but obviously that word is already in use.
The Warrior Queen Amanirenas is amazing, the fact that she continued a lengthy Campaign against Rome during its prime under Augustus... on top of the fact that the Romans won a battle, really shows the power of the Kushites. To get back up and punch even harder against the Romans.
They're trying hard to tell us lies and spread unnecessary hate & anger. I'm glad we have people like you to bring back logic and honour THE truth and not the personal desires!
That story about the war between Rome and Kush was super interesting. I would LOVE to see a show about that with the kind of budget Smith had and with the commitment to historical accuracy and diligence that Metatron has.
It's getting banal, but AS A GREEK WOMAN XD I thank you for your intention to present history as it is. The world needs to know that Greeks are not black, but we have many shades, depending on the region and ancestry. In summer it's very common to sunbathe to get a good tan, and children sometimes compete in September in whose tanning is better. Our colour varies from milky white (✋🏻) to light chocolate brown. But despite any race mixing, historically we've never, ever have been black/ African (especially in the ancient times!).
@@ellishaindobo1794 You haven't been in many museums have you? Most of the representations I see of Jesus in my country (Spain) have dark brown hair and brown eyes lolz
@@ellishaindobo1794 It's nobody but your own people fault if you have little to no history. Desperately trying to steal other people's history make you look even dumber than you already are. This does nothing for you.
I'm all for history being tolsd as it was, not being racially politicized garbage. Sure, this story should be told. However, if I got Metatorn right, Rome still won. It being "more difficult" & some demands being granted before still eventually winning, doesn't really change much. As for "warrior queen". Nope. Women didn't fight in battles, especially those with only one eye! Men with one eye might well have because, you know, necessity, but no "depth of field" in your vision would be a massive disadvantage when fighting.
What a missed story and opportunity, but atleast we heard it here😊 Considering Romans were usa-level 🐂💩ers, irl, they got thoroughly buggered down there👍
@@markfernandes2467 Of course Rome won. We're talking about ROME here. It's the fact that a less technologically developed, less organized people were able to put up a respectable fight against the Roman army at all that's impressive.
Have to hand some credit to Jada and Netflix. With people debunking their ideological, post-modernist feminist BS, people are probably learning more about Cleopatra now than they have in decades!
It's not a good point because nothing about this is postmodern. It's just made up. None of the French post structuralists encouraged rewriting history, quite the opposite. In fact, deconstructing the false sign of a black Cleopatra requires postmodern theory in the first place.
@@TropicalPriest Ah, there's what the French postmodernists thought and then there is what subsequent people did with their ideas. I don't care that Foucault or Derrida might have not agreed with how the woke activists use the tools they provided; I care that they do use those tools. It's a form of applied postmodernism, if you will (as James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose call it). It may not be the "purest" form of postmodernism, but the woke ideology surely uses postmodernism to its aims. So, yes, I stand by my comment that the OP's post has a good point.
I clicked on this video for well deserved criticism of Netflix's so called "documentary". At some point I forgot all about that and found myself immersed in this awesome story of Kandake. Why Netflix won't hire people like yourself to write their documentaries? Well, we all know why, anyway, you're the GOAT man!
We live in a world where I, an Egyptian, could get criticized for wearing the symbols of my culture by the same folks trying to appropriate said culture because my skin tone is lighter than theirs. 🤦♂ I'd say Jinzo Smith is setting all of us people of African descent, regardless of ethnicity color or culture back, but I think the level of ignorance here is something entirely new. Thanks for another great video Metatron
It’s sadly true that people are not as educated as they could be. MANY American Blacks assume that if from Africa, one is Negro. As we know not true. Smith is educated. Her choice to do what she did was a political statement. She actually DID insult Blacks by race swapping with a famous Egyptian Queen.
METATRON YOU LITERALLY PUT JADA IN THE BURN UNIT WITH THIS RESPONSE VIDEO! You take everything they say they want and deliver it with such badass efficiency, telling the story of a REAL strong, independent African queen! You show how easy it is to find these amazing black historical figures, there’s no need to steal figureheads of other cultures. It highlights the laziness in the research of Jada Pinkett Smith.
@@womeninadjusting7329 He did, but she did it first. Doesn't excuse either of them. Only thing missing is him bringing her on TV to explain publicly how it wasn't his fault. And now, she got entangled in history falsehoods too. What a shame.
@@doswheelsouges359 how do you know she cheated first? No one knows anything outside of what they’ve shown on media. It’s weird to speak on it with such certainty
@@womeninadjusting7329 She has taken no accountability for her actions. Will at least knows when he has done wrong. Jada is off with the fairies. Is that the feminist sword you want to die on, love?
Thank you Metatron, for the time and effort you put into this. One can only hope that people in charge of making documentaries posses a fraction of your competence in the future.
Incredible video. Unless it’s a work of fiction, I’m insulted when people race swap historical figures. They could have also done an amazing documentary of Nzinga, who was an Angolan warrior queen who fought against the Portuguese slave trade, or chosen to represent Amina, Queen of Zaria, or Queen Nandi of the Zulu.
She said there was "tons to choose from", but I have a feeling her brain-storming session was just Cleopatra written down on a piece of paper 4 times....
I hope some of the outraged black Americans take a moment to look up some of these references. Sadly, they don't even know that they don't know. There are so many black Africans worthy of learning about. I've been telling my daughter that I want to watch a movie series (like Marvel) about drama/battles between different African mythological figures. Hollywood has such an opportunity to introduce us to so much that's not Greek/Roman/European. They just ignore it all. They could tell us about a mythological hero from one tribe and about a spirit tale from another. Teach us about the people/culture from the individual tribes. I don't think they even know Africa has a history sometimes. It's probably best that they don't try. They'd muck it up and end up insulting a few million more people. smh
@@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 Hollywood don't do shit bc most Afro Americans aren't interested in that in the first place. Most Black Americans don't know anything abt Africa and don't care abt it, they are just Black Americans and nothing more. To Hollywood, it's not interesting to speak abt real heroic and good African historical figure bc they want to put Whites against Blacks and it wouldn't be possible if they didn't race swap and things like that
@@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 Why? Just because they're the same skin color? Pick a queen, any queen, from an entire continent, that you've never had anything to do with. Lol. That's not heritage.
I play a lot of Civilization, I would love to see more mainstream depictions of the cultures featured in there. Just the little bit in there makes you want to see more.
People have been quoting your videos in my streams and video comments section. I think that shows that what you said here is making an impact and resonating with people. I’m glad to see that you and I have some shared audience because your work is excellent
The lack of awareness of these revisionists is astounding. "Why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?" So close to self awareness. So close. Why is it so important for you, Jada, that she be black?
These people are racists who believe in black supremacy. And Egypt being black is part of their mythology. It's pretty simple really and just as ignorant as white racists.
Because Cleopatra is the only female name of royalty in Africa that she can think of. Are we to believe that Jada Smith is a scholar of the rich and diverse history of the continent and has researched the many other female leaders found in that mysterious land? No, because she is as dumb as she is arrogant.
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted. Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
even woke people care about historical truth and honesty. but a decent part of any population is just plain stupid. the director and pinkett happen to be part of that stupid group at the bottom of the curve.
None of you people are really interested in historical truths! If you say that the ancient Egyptians weren’t black Africans then the truth doesn’t matter to you at all!
I'm Italian and love Italian and Greek history. However, I was brought to the U.S. and have lived half my life in the U.S. and I can't stand it there. I just came back to the U.S. to finish college and I am having the worst experience. I didn't know about this woke movement and it is everywhere here. They have lost touch with reality and its really destructive to so many things. Your vid was so well spoken. LOVED IT! and I'm subscribing. Keep speaking the truth
1) 1st definition of woke was pro women minorities, gays + lesbians, etc. identity politics vs. really still existing oppression + exploitation. 2) Reactionaries who hate all of above attack some widely chauvinistic factions among them to attack all factions of. women, minorities, gays+ lesbians, etc. 3) As some videos say, now, woke is used by so many different opposed factions--now---no meaning.
@@yugmathakkar4023 I think a lot of people are coming to the realization that the far left woke movement is a sham. But it’s still definitely a problem
I already knew about Amanirenas, so I was quite sure from the start of the video that you were going to mention her. But I 100% agree with you, telling the story of the Kandakes would be way better than a rewriting of egyptian story and blackwashing the ptolemaic dynasty.
Accuracy is vital in portraying history and historical characters, if you want a fictional drama that’s fine your characters can be anything you like so long as the story is interesting, if you cannot stick to historical fact keep a way from historical documentaries
Absolutely love how you mention a story about a real and incredible Black Warrior Queen that could have been chosen to represent Black pride and history that’s ignored. But no they chose to misrepresent another story instead.
My brain can't logically process this, why are they stealing culture instead of showing their own true history, even when they show their history they turn villains into heroes and rewrite history like the The woman king. Why are they doing this
This is why doing a proper research brings always the best. Not only you managed to respect historically accuracy and therefore educate, you also managed to tell us a really interesting story about an amazing historical character, too often overlooked. As someone who likes to write stories about not so well known historical characters and events, I applaud you for being an inspirational guide, Metatron. Keep up with this great work!
@@YourMajesty733indeed that crown Cleoptra is wearing is even associated eith Kush. So why copy and paste from Kushite history instead of just telling the history if there isn't an agenda?
@@admirekashiri6651 You talking about the crown that the actress is wearing in the fake documentary? Archeological discoveries depict Cleopatra wearing Egyptian headresses. That is to be expected, since she was the ruler of Egypt. We wouldn't expect her to wear a Greek crown. I'm talking about her ancestral bloodlines. Way to conflate things to fit your desired narrative. Nice try.
@@YourMajesty733 Uhh... the Egyptian "headdress" is not only different, but Cleopatra only used it for the coronation. She ruled from Alexandria, a Greek city founded by (guess who?) the (Greek) Alexander the Great. On Cleopatra's visit to Rome her Greek diadem is mentioned a lot. There's even a joke about it, let me tell you of it. Basically there were rumors Julius Caesar wanted to crown himself King. Most Romans also knew about him cheating on his wife with Cleopatra and the kid they had together. So the story goes (as told by a Roman historian) that Julius was offered a 'diadem', which is what Greeks used for crowns, and he declined it, with some grandiose speech about respecting democracy yadda yadda. People were obviously suspecting it was all a show. Then outta nowhere Cicero (one of the senators) suddenly says "I wonder where he got THAT crown from"
@@YourMajesty733 the double serpent crown is associated with the Kushites. If you look at statues of the 25th dynesty, you'll see that's the crown most of the Qores (kings) have. I believe it represented their rule of both Kush and Egypt.
Final sentence of this video is so true! As someone who's ethnically sudanese (where the Kushites started) I am grateful for this incredible historical insight. Clearly, if this was about black empowerment, there's plenty of material in black/African history. I get so frustrated with these empty marketing gestures.
The thing is, as someone with actual heritage of the black skinned ancient Egyptians, you're not even the target audience, which they want to represent with race swapping this ethnically Greek queen, but actually people of west African descent (predominantly Afro-Americans).
The idea of an African queen putting the head of a statue of a Roman emperor under the steps of one of her temples so that her people could walk on his head all the time is, frankly, hilarious, and I feel robbed that we've not had a movie made about this woman yet.
I am gobsmacked imagine how many stories were lied about or manipulated into making us believe in a false reality. That’s actually a great deal of injustice not only to our ancestors but also for ourselves and future generations. What a noble act, bravo.
I think it's safe to say all mainstream grand historical narratives about black people from before the Civil rights era are complete fictions. The only time slavery ever gets brought up is during American elections.
"Why do people need Cleopatra to be white..."
We don't Jada, we just need Ms. Cleo to be an accurate representation. *YOU* however need Cleopatra to be black.
Why, since finding someone that looks exactly like Cleopatha looked like is extremely difficult. A human is a human. It is just a human acting like a certain inbred Greek.
>Why do people need Cleopatra to be white
Well because she _was_ white, why do you need Cleopatra to be black?
That's the question we should ask her.
Do we "need" Martin Luther King Jr. To be black? Do we "need" Confucius to be Chinese?
No. That's what they were, no matter if we "need" it or not...
They NEED her to be black because the truth about their culture and race is boring and, in most cases, non-existent. Think about the average black American. Poor, uneducated, lives in urban slums surrounded by drugs and violence. The majority come from fatherless homes and multiple children from different "baby daddies." These fantasies about being Egyptian kings are exactly that; a fantastic cope from the reality of their meager, pathetic existence. They steal other people's history and culture because they don't have any of their own.
@@DonVigaDeFierro But the narcissist need them be how she feel they have to be in her ilusion.
Narcissists are not friends with reality - 🙄 - that's why.
Saying cleopatra and Egyptians were black because they in Africa and most of Africa is black is like saying Martin Luther King was white because most of the US was white
That’s what my grandma said. /s XD
This is the most dumb shit i ever saw somone say
And yet the Berbers, who have been in North Africa for 5,000-7,000 years, are Caucasian (White).
Most of africa was and still is black. Most egyptians today are not black,but some still are but most egyptians black were in ancient times and most live in upper egypt.Most north africans are not black today but some are and most were black in ancient times.
Upper Egypt
In Upper Egypt, the predynastic Badari culture was followed by the Naqada culture (Amratian), closely related to the Nubian and other tropical African populations, and the Proto-dynastic kings emerged from the Naqada region. Excavations at Hierakonpolis (Upper Egypt) found archaeological evidence of ritual masks similar to those used further south of Egypt, and obsidian linked to Ethiopian quarry sites.
S.O.Y. Keita, a biological anthropologist also reviewed studies on the biological affinities of the Ancient Egyptian population and characterised the skeletal morphologies of predynastic southern Egyptians as a "Saharo-tropical African variant". Keita had also added that whilst Egyptian society became more socially complex and biologically varied, the “ethnicity of the Niloto-Saharo-Sudanese origins did not change”.
Kerma culture
Craniometric analysis of Kerma fossils comparing them to various other early populations inhabiting the Nile Valley and Maghreb found that they were morphologically close to Predynastic Egyptians from Naqada (4000-3200 BC). The Kermans were also more distantly related to Dynastic Egyptians from Gizeh (323 BC- AD 330) and Predynastic Egyptian samples from Badari (4400-4000 BC), followed by the ancient Garamantes of Libya (900 BC- AD 500), who were found to be most closely related to Neolithic sub-Saharan African samples, and Roman period Egyptians,[29] and secondary to modern Tunisians and Moroccans as well as early osteological series from Algeria (1500 BC), Carthage in Tunisia (751 BC- AD 435), Soleb in Nubia (1575-1380 BC), and Ptolemaic dynasty-era samples from Alexandria in Egypt (323 BC- AD 30).
Shomarka Keita, conducted an anthropological study which examined the crania of groups in the North African region which included samples from Kerma, circa 2000 BC, the Maghreb region, circa 1500 BC, and 1st dynasty crania from the royal tombs in Abydos, Egypt. The results of the study determined the predominant pattern of the First Dynasty Egyptian crania was "Southern" or a “tropical African variant” (though others were also observed), which had affinities with Kerma Kushites. The general results demonstrate greater affinity with Upper Nile Valley groups, but also suggest clear change from earlier craniometric trends. The gene flow and movement of northern officials to the important southern city may explain the findings.
Garamantes
Biological anthropology
Marta Mirazón Lahr conducted research on skeletons from Fezzan dating to the Roman era and found that the skeletons most closely matched Neolithic Sahelian samples, from Chad, Mali, and Niger. Lahr associates these remains with the Garamantes, and concluded that the Garamantes had connections with both the Sahel and northern Africa.
Nikita et al. (2011) examined the biological affinities of the Garamantes using cranial nonmetric traits and the Mean Measure of Divergence and Mahalanobis D(2). They were compared to other North African populations, including the Egyptian, Algerian, Tunisian and Sudanese, roughly contemporary to them. Overall, three clusters were identified: (1) the Garamantes, (2) Gizeh and Kerma, and (3) Soleb, Alexandrians, Algerians and Carthagians. The analysis concluded that the Garamantes were isolated, with the Sahara playing a role as a barrier to geneflow. The distance between the Garamantes and their neighbors was high and the population appeared to be an outlier.
The remains of a young Sub-Saharan African woman, which has been dated to the 1st millennium BCE and possessed a lip plug that is associated with Sahelian African groups, was buried among other Sub-Saharan Africans that were part of the heterogenous Garamantian population. Power et al. (2019) states: "This ornament demonstrates that some Garamantes individuals shared aspects of their material culture with Sahelian societies more broadly, either through migration or contact, while their burial within Garamantes cemeteries shows their integration into the normative funerary rituals of contemporary Garamantian society. The combination of morphometric and isotopic work further reinforces the view that Garamantian society included individuals of diverse geographical origin, some of whom may have been first generation Trans-Saharan migrants." The craniometrics results also identified another sub-group within the Garamantes buried in the Wadi al-Ajjal. The morphology is observed widely among Mediterranean people.
I'm Egyptian . We don't have the most powerful army or rich country to be proud of. Our history is everything to us and we will defend it forever
edit: Many of the responses say that I am Arab, not Egyptian. Google is free, you can search for the DNA of the current Egyptians, you will find that the Arabs are 17% and the Egyptians are 68%
It's a rich and fantastic history. Sorry some dumb American lib is blackwashing it so she can feel better.
you lead the world by example on how history is to be treated and defended.
It's not about who is who and anybody's circumstances, but about the truth and honesty.
You have some of the greatest heritage in the world. Much respect from the UK!
Actually the Egyptian army is the strongest in Africa and second strongest in the Middle East region after turkey
As a Greek woman, i feel thankful for restoring our history and culture! Not only you have restored our history but you gave us a fascinating story about a real black queen that we weren't aware of!
My pleasure 👍🏻
@@metatronyt I wanna say as black man myself you are not racist. I’m so sorry for any comments that called you racist. Also as someone who watched your channel before I wanted to know your opinion of God of War Video-game, immortal Phoenix Rising video game. The first two go into Greek mythology. Also assassins creed Valhalla with Vikings and Norse mythology. Hopefully I can see your review of it one day.
@@nathaniel3867we don't need your validation
Egypt in Africa not Greek,
@@malattedrose that doesn't matter..the Ptolemy line of pharaohs we're Greek, descended for Alexander's right hand man and fellow Greek buddy Ptolemy. As a reward for a service Alexander gave him and his white Greek heirs Egypt to ruleth over.
I’m so glad Egypt is suing them.
Are they for real? 😂
@@herrgodfrey9563 yes. The country of Egypt filed a suite against Netflix and claim erasure of Egyptian history.
Hahah
Give me the source plz I’m interested
@@Luna-dh6yt Source? Jesus Christ... just search it, instead of being lazy.
The most pathetic thing about this whole situation is that Netflix called a *WHOLE COUNTRY* raycyst, just because they wouldn't put up with that fanfiction they call a documentary.
As they race swap their history to a race that isnt in even their country in any significant numbers...
If the world disagrees with you then the whole world must be wrong.
@@starfox300 Words of a megalomaniac. Or a member of the hollywood cult. Same thing really.
@@starfox300 Words from a narcissist.
is like the antisemitic trick
In Egypt we're not obsessed with skin color, but however we are passionate about our history we appreciate it and we take pride in our ancestors. That's why we are livid over this joke of a documentary, it was never about race we just want the truth to be told. And the audacity this woman has to call us racist is beyond me! Just because we are not on board with what she is trying to sell to the world as facts!! God bless Americans for dealing with idiots like Jada, more power to you guys!
We are facing a Serious problem in the United States with people like Jada Smith is pushing their Afrocentric on everyone as Far as the United States Government if we oppose to their Sickness.."Than we are all Called Racist"
She's projecting her racism onto you. Don't let her.
If they are wrong about Cleopatra’s ethnic and racial makeup, think what other facts they have taken literary license with. Although I probably wouldn’t go see it, I would not complain about a black Cleopatra were it not billed as a documentary.
As an American I was I could say the same about Americans..
Sure over half of us have your back, however the latter half.. I don't know.
There's just too many Americans who don't even call themselves American, if you know what I mean. They aren't keen to help in the realm of tradition and cultural history..
At least, not culture or history that ISN'T ridden with kale chips, poetry slams, excessive soy and bad ironic pencil thin mustaches..
Based we Americans can learn from you as have so many others throughout history
I was actually in Greece when this "documentary" came out, visiting my husband's family and sightseeing. His grandmother's village overlooks Lake Voulkaria, over which Queen Cleopatra fled from the Romans after the battle of Actium in 31AD (according to the small amount of information I can find). Directly behind the village, runs a tiny canal where it is thought she was able to escape on a shallow barge through to the open sea. It was awesome to be there and imagine such ancient history happening! My husband, who's entire known family lineage is Greek, is most definitely allowed to be annoyed by the fact that Cleopatra was not represented as a Greek person! None of his family have dark skin; they have fair or tanned skin with brown hair and brown or green eyes. His brother even has blonde hair, like his grandfather!
I agree but I have tbh as a Greek Cypriot we do have alot darker skin and I have come across Greek Cypriots with African features but they are definitely a minority. Even if she was dark skinned she was Greek
If your husband is pure Greek then why is he with you?
@@michaelpowell7120 My irresistible charm!🤩
@@mikem8211 white people can also have darker skin, it doesn't make us black.
@@mikem8211 as a greek, this is mix at best. the majority of us are tanned or white.
Jada Smith's view of Cleopatra is as faithful to history as she is to her husband.
Beautifully said lol
DAYUM. Someone call the burn unit.
Ouch!
exactly she needs to stop doing documentaries of history she knows absolutely nothing about. she needs to stick to entanglement documentaries where she's an expert.
Sick burn!
Fun fact: Jada Pinkett Smith graduated high school from Baltimore School for the Arts where she majored in dance and theater. Clearly this is someone whose towering intellect and academic accomplishments make her an authority on ancient geopolitics and classical anthropology.
There's a fancy word for this: ultracrepidarianism.
And a proverb, with a lot of variations in different languages: let the cobbler stick to his last.
You forgot this -> /s
Actually that doesn't matter much as long as you hire good professionals/specialists. Sure, you'll need to trust them, and if they do any mistake it's gonna be bad for you since you're the big name of the show. Now I'll stop talking about these Netflix polemics, I still have PTSD from what Graham Hancock brought to this world.
Ptolomeys. I hope that I.spelled that right. You also had many incursions from other African tribes that didn’t want to do any business with the Egypt of that time. Nefertiti would be a better. The Middle East was also a point in time for trading and warfare. From what I understand Egypt was not a warring country. It wasn’t till later that they had a little bit of conquest. I will do more research on this. The Pharonic lineage is fascinating. Thanks again for your valuable history videos.
She's a narcissist. Remember she never cheated, she was "in tangled"
The fact that you did Jada’s job for her is a killing blow
If Jada only had the sense and self-awareness to realize that...
@@yesss5773 ...and the hair!
Jada: "Mansplaining!"
Easy win
That's Dr. Jada Pinkett Smith, PhD in Ignorantology
@@juststop94 and historical revisionism...
the irony of Afrocentrists calling anyone "Eurocentrists" or racists never fail to make me laugh.
Why? There are indeed both sides of the same ugly coin. Eurocentrists do exist my dude. Any significant discovery south of the sahara by archeologists for decades were telling people it was Europeans who actually made the stuff they discovered. Bronze Benin busts and great Zimbabwe off the top of my head
As a Nigerian and an African i agree with u,keep speaking out
Thanks brother 🙏
@@metatronyt That head is now kept in the British Museum in London. So I heard of this story before but never knew that the Kandake were led by women warrior queens.
"As a Nigerian AND an African"?
I mean sure, you are not incorrect, Nigeria is in Africa, so if you're nigerian you are also african. But I don't think it was necessary to say that extra?
Spot on bro
Same here boss.
Jada is essentially telling young black people “we have no history of which we can be proud, therefore we are going to “culturally appropriate” a queen from another culture.”
And, if you don’t accept it, you will be canceled for being racist.
When you enroll in the ‘Jada Pinkett-Smith School of History and Stuff’, you will learn that the following people were, in fact, black:
Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Mary, Queen of Scots
Queen Victoria
Walt Disney
Henry Ford
Wilbur and Orville Wright
Marie Antoinette
Julius Caesar
And many more!
Albert Einstein is black, Cristiano Ronaldo is black, Planck is black, Alexander the great is black, Ashoka is black, Gandalf is black, God is black, Monitor screen is black omg someone fix the monitor I just bought it damn it!
It's so sad, but it's true
Honestly, I wouldn't call that an entirely good faith read on her character in this *specific* situation (which is to be expected given what people already have seen about her in other situations).
Objectively, it is obvious that we have our own history if we want to just start at American history alone. Where things tend to get jumbled is everything before. We get a lot of people pretty much telling stories based off hearsay, or based on the logic that depending on the region, you're more likely to find darker skinned people vs white. That's where we get the whole white vs black Jesus debate. Cleopatra being Egyptian, and therefore, black, was just one of those messages spread as part of that Hotep rhetoric. I can only have empathy for how people came to believe what they do over the years because it's obvious why, but that's why we try to educate each other in good faith where and when we can.
I mean, it's not like we're singing he entirety of the national anthem either
@@normandy2501 thank you for that response - my response was more tongue in cheek
While I do agree with what you’ve said, I still take issue with Jada culturally appropriating a historical figure.
There is plenty of evidence that Cleopatra was not black and there is evidence that Egypt, while part of the continent of Africa, was not occupied by black Africans, but rather middle eastern ‘Africans’ (Egyptians).
This is the problem with the never ending race baiting sickness in the US which is spreading to the rest of the world.
IMO, Jada is sending a horrible message to young black people - especially girls - that is, we don’t have anyone to be proud of in our history, so we’re just going to grab Cleopatra.
People can’t have it both ways - they can’t scream about appropriation (ironically most of the appropriation claims turn out to be untrue - i.e. the great braid debate) and then turn around and claim a historical figure is an ethnicity which history clearly shows they were not.
While it’s kind to have empathy, one must also remember the group being insulted - in this case, the Egyptians.
They’re being told ‘accept our version of reality - we are claiming one of your historical heroes and making her one of ours - or we’ll call you racist.’
I find it offensive that so much focus is put on race in the first place, especially in the historical context of a “documentary.’ It’s like CRT. We don’t care about the truth - if it helps some people feel better about themselves, we’re going to teach it.
All that does is create hurt on the other side and further the divide.
It’s just not necessary for us to do this anymore. Putting another group down in order to elevate yourself has never worked in the history of the world and it won’t now - regardless of how much a privileged bald actress stamps her feet and regardless of what someone’s grandmother told them.
Your black vs blond/blue eyed Jesus is a perfect example of how the West has done this before. People find comfort in what is familiar to them - I get that - but reality is important.
Another good example is Denzel Washington in Macbeth. Macbeth is a Middle Ages Scottish king - clearly not black - but Macbeth was a fictional story. What I saw of Washington’s portrayal of Macbeth was powerful.
A great actor makes you forget about race and anything else.
@@Tenchi707 : Elves are black.
Dwarves are black.
The human torch is black.
Jada: "Why do people need her to be white?"
Everyone with a brain: "We don't. Why do *you* need her to be black?"
In future films, Obama will be portrayed as blonde as Trump. This message is for Jada.
Which people? I don't recall white people make that kind of statement.
@@SaraLee1 The only way for people to realize his crimes (PRISM, drone strikes, bailing banks, Libya, Syria) 👍
Wakanda is the only accomplished culture they have.
To answer the first question, it’s because we know exactly where she’s from. 😅 And she was, in fact, white. Gosh what a stupid response Jada had.
Hi, I am a 70 year old great grandmother and through self learning have become an amateur but passionate historian. I live and breathe medieval history. I just wanted to stop by and say how glad I am to have discovered your wonderful posts on UA-cam. Measured, fair, interesting and extremely enlightening. I have corrected my thinking on many things with your help so thank you so much for your intelligent unbiased talks, long may you continue.
Well miss, it sounds like you are quite the historian as you yourself are a piece of ancient history
Retired archaeologist here, who has worked at Meroe, Qasr Ibrim, and upriver of Napata. The amazing story of Amanirenas was the first thing I thought of when Jada Pinkett Smith claimed to be telling the histories of strong African queens. Just a couple of clarifications. The depictions of Amanishakhato and Amanitore as warrior queens holding the topknots of multiple prisoners was actually a common trope in Pharaonic/Kushite iconography, and is not evidence that those queens ever engaged in battle. In fact, they probably didn't. Amanirenas, however, was a warrior queen for sure. The deal which the Romans came to with her and her son Akinidad ensured Meroe's independence and set up a long era of reasonable trade relations with the Romans, and a very prosperous first century AD for Meroe. Amanitore and her coregent Natakamani did so much building that we called them the Dynamic Duo, with indications of Roman cultural influence becoming a fashionable strand in the strong local culture. Which already was, by the way, an interesting amalgam of purely Sudanese elements and strong pharaonic Egyptian elements dating back to the New Kingdom conquest of Kush. (Note: Egypt's 25th Dynasty was a Kushite line that took over as as pharoahs of Egypt until the Assyrian invasion drove them out.) Indeed, in a sense, a version of pharaonic culture survived longer in the Sudan than it did in Egypt. Kudos to you, Metatron, for bringing the fabulous Amanirenas narrative to the fore.
This comment needs boosting
Good comment.
thnx!
This is interesting
I heard of this woman! The fact that we got this garbage instead of telling a lesser know story is infuriating! We dont know a ton about her so they could have speculated all they wanted. But no. You have to take a greek woman and black wash her.
I’m a black American woman and I approve this message. When I saw the trailer for the documentary, my first question was why is cleopatra being portrayed by a black woman when we all know she was not black. If the goal was to portray ancient black queens then she should have chosen an ancient black queen. Not a Greek one. It’s confusing and it spreads false information. I have not bothered to watch.
Yes but look at Hamilton. My little brother was confused that some of the founding fathers must have been black, based on Hamilton (we watched the musical online). The truth is that these men owned slaves. I don’t think we should change all of this. It opens dialogue. Yes they owned slaves as was custom at the time in numerous countries and why a war was fought in this country about 90 years after its founding, to free the enslaved. As a country, we no longer accepted it. Racism has not left us, sadly, but society is evolving. To understand the lessons of the past, we must learn REAL history. Yes, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin etc all owned slaves but they did create a country that many people are literally dying to live in. So in that case, they were successful.
We have to accept the good with the bad and try to learn from it. We should never ever change history even if we think history might have been better some other way.
All that said, I would love to learn more black history. More history of sub Saharan Africa. There is a very long and rich history there. I loved this story you told. Never heard about it before.
@@WyattRyeSway I happen to love the play Hamilton but you definitely have a point. It can be misleading for those unfamiliar with the history of the founding fathers.
Hamilton got taken a bit tooooooooo seriously 🎉
Woke leftists only see value in white things. That's why everything is being race swapped now as opposed to creating new things.
@@Khate999 Cleopatra: Claims to be an accurate documentary. Hamilton: Has Lin Manuel Miranda, a PRcan, dropping mixed-beat raps. I’m sorry but if Hamilton confused your brother’s understanding of history, he probably needs to wear a helmet and floatees while eating soup…
I like your point about why she didn't make a documentary about a REAL black queen. I'm from Africa and in matter of fact there were a lot of black female leaders in African tribes, the problem is their names and stories aren't well documented and for Jada to make a documentary about one of them, she will have to leave her comfortable mansion and travel to the savannas of Africa and make real research that will probably take years. But why do that? when she can just print a wiki page and make Cleopatra black and call everyone racist for not liking her "work".
Talk about Queen Andromeda from Ethiopia according to the Hebrew Israelites from the Hebrew scriptures of Psalms..but no Jada always gotta be narcissistic and blackwash everything
i’m tired of Black-Americans..
I love your comment. And I would be interested in learning about true female leaders in ancient Africa.
Brilliant well said 👍
I like to think that this is exactly what happened. Jada choose the easy way instead of trying to do something hard and more rewarding for her actual goals. Your comment was articulated very well.
I admit I never been to Africa, I cant' afford to go to Africa. All the information I can get is from documentaries. But frick, at least I knew Cleo was Greek, and I knew that there are actual African badasses out there, and as we uncover more information about Nubia/Kush, I am sure we can write something from the ground up about them, even if it's historic fantasy.
I’m a Black African woman and I’m waiting on your UA-cam series on amazing African Queens because clearly you know better.😊
Thank you 🙏 I have a full team of researchers, so credit goes to them too
Cleopatra was black a documented name: the Pharoah was black
@@metatronyt Huggies to your peeps
‘critical social justice and DEI has nothing to do with reality or truth, everyone know that right??
@@Andrew-mv2qbit’s amazing how many black people are into historical revisionism. I guess it’s a response to being enslaved and feeling insecure about our history . Some ideas like the one that says black people were the original Americans and weren’t brought from Africa but were already here when Europeans arrived is pretty wacky.
I am Kenyan, East African and I fully agree with You. I stand against historical misrepresentation whether it's done to my history or someone else's.
I mean, Queen Nzinga of Angola has an arguably more beautiful story.
Season one was Queen Nzinga, and wow, did they butcher her story. Most people don't know the history, so no comment was made on it. Buy for us who know her story it was horrible and a disgrace it definitely was not a documentary. If they called it fiction, I'd have no problem with it.
Metatron should comment on that BS.
@@greenegreene8644I'm not sure he is aware of this history. But I'm sure he can study it like he did this. Hopefully he covers it too.
Telling the real story would destroy the narative that white people created slaves of Africans when in fact, they were sold by other African empires.
Egyptians were Black... Get over it and stop licking Europeans boots.
The bright side is that Egypt is making an official documentary that should be quite good.
Yup. They should keep going with the lawsuit though.
Still hoping for an update from the 2010 Cleopatra documentary where National Geographic was following an excavation site that may have been her lost tomb.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo there is no lawsuit from Egypt, get your facts straight
@@kaimagnus5760 Did it go anywhere? I remember they might have find the body of her sister
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 last I heard they were still waiting on Excavation permits since the temple was located near an urban area.
"I feel it's important to show a black Queen, so I didn't." Truely something only one of the Smiths could come up with.
Very enjoyable documentary about the Black Egyptian Queen CLEOPATRA and I learned a lot. I didn't know before the documentary that she gave birth to 4 children, including 1 by Julius Caesar before he was murdered, and 3 by Marc Anthony. Also people often mentioned her beauty, but I found out that she was not only beautiful but also very intelligent and strong witted.. I loved her beautiful thick dark hair, and all of those beautiful and exotic styles she wore.. Her skin looked so beautifully brown, similar to good tasting honey. I learned that Egypt during Cleopatra's time was 100% INDEPENDENT and had absolutely no relations with GREECE, which meant that their control of Egypt was not that long, and the Black Egyptian culture and WORSHIP of their GODS never changed and remained intact, instead, it was the Ancient Egyptians who changed the Invading Greeks to accept their culture, unlike how we saw so many colonized nations of the past ADAPTING to colonizing invaders cultures, language, Religions, dress codes, etc. The ancient Black Egyptians were very TRUE TO THEMSELVES, and rather than changing, they CHANGED THE INVADERS, because they were the true ancient geniuses of the world.. All people will get different impressions from documentaries, it is the educational awareness which differentiates all of us..
😂❤❤❤❤love your comment👏
@@etruscancivilization i aint reading allat
@@etruscancivilization I hope to FUCK you’re being sarcastic.
Cleopatra was Greek and Macedonian. Her family was put in power by Alexander the Great. Netflix is just showing her birthmark.
She went from destroying Will's career too trying to rewrite Egyptian/Greek history
No wonder her hair is falling out, a brain that big is consuming her hair follicles to feed itself
Did we really expect a woman who cheated on her husband, and then went on national television with said husband to explain how it wasn’t actually her fault, to be anything other than disingenuous?
A typical narc muve - no mater what shit they do - it's never ever their fault...
Gaslighting, victime blaming, blame shifting, lying, pity play + no compassion, shame or remorse....
The same old game...
I can’t speak for anyone else but I wasn’t surprised. I didn’t expect her to have a sudden attack of integrity. She has proven that race is more important than honesty or historical accuracy to her.
what she does in her bedroom doesnt matter to a historical or cultural discussion
What does that have to do with anything lol ?
@@schattenseele66 It does. It speaks to the person's character when it comes to the most important thing.
Why should she care about this then
Watching your channel restores my faith that there are still reasonable and sane people out there
unfortunately none of them are in charge
Remember, the crazy people have a louder voice.
@@freecat1278 Right? It seems like there is a very fine line for the rest of us, between too quiet and too loud.
I came to say the exact same thing @Dev
hear hear!
As an Egyptian Nubian
This video made me double happy 😂
Like 1. Yes, Cleopatra wasn't black and i hate the whole u.s black washing it's disgusting
2. Not a lot of people talk or know about Nubia and kush, so thank you❤
Wasn’t Egyptian Nubia once part of Sudan?
@@roccoy5982 in which era?
Mahdist sudan is quite big too, i wish it could last long, and i wish they defeat the british army
The whole US isn’t standing beside this. The whole US is actually pissed at her for this.
@@NoelleTakestheSky Yet, you let those people and their agenda control your congress, your white house, your policies and your media. You are letting them control your country and control you
The Black Queen’s history you taught us in this video is amazing. That’s sad that this history could’ve been told instead of misrepresenting Cleopatra.
There recently was a film in theaters called "The Woman King," and it was fascinating.
Cleopatra spoke several languages, including Koiné (ancient Greek), Egyptian and Aramaic.
At that time, the Greeks in Egypt spoke only Koiné and refused to learn the local languages, as a political demand, like any self-respecting invader.
In contrast, the Egyptians were bilingual following the Persian occupation, and also spoke Aramaic (the administrative language during the occupation).
A Greek-Macedonian mother would never have been able to teach her daughter to speak Egyptian and Aramaic, because she didn't speak them. Only an Egyptian mother could have taught Cleopatra to speak Egyptian and Aramaic.
Cleopatra therefore had Egyptian blood. Cleopatra therefore had African blood.
As for her skin colour, it could have been anything like that of Rashida Jones, Quincy Jones' daughter.
@@gy2gy246your logic has so many holes in it... you do realise the royal household was very diverse, and there were wetnurses and tutors to teach Cleopatra the local language. By your logic, all the royals in history that had a mother from another country could not speak their native tongue because it was not their mother's tongue! And also Egyptians were of course not black, like in Sub-Saharan African. Even nowadays, there are so many people that can speak several languages. How could they do that, if their mother did not teach it to them? I assume you can only speak English...
@@mimisor66 That doesn't take away from the fact that she was a Ptolemy, which was a Greek family.
You nailed it. Fantastic retelling of the actual Black Queen who took on the Roman Empire. Well done.
Thank you!
@@metatronyt indeed well done. I knew you were going to.mention the Kendake I didn't know how balanced you would be. 😂 but you definitely did your research so respect as always.
The Metatron - Dr Andrew Michaels crossover is not what I expected today but I'm here for it
I knew about amanitore, because of civilization 6. got really interested (as I usually do) about the people I was playing, and read about her history. I knew about the temple and the caesar's head and found it absolutely amazing, it's one of those things that happened in real life that no fiction could imagine more creatively... the sad part about this video is that now I want SO BAD a historically accurate tv series about the nubian lineage of queens 😆
@@metatronyt Why are you doing all this SocJus stuff? Yeah, you're fighting the "good fight", but I started following you to see vids about HEMA and the like. Did you run out of topics? Did you run out of European/asian martial history to talk about?
Unsubscribed 😂
As a historian by education and a writer by profession I congratulate you on this artfully executed killing blow. Very well done indeed!
Thank you 🙏
@@metatronyt wat about this ua-cam.com/users/shorts8RAKOeCRG2Q?feature=share
@@metatronyt you are dare I say seeming racist to bro because it's actually real archeological evidence of Cleopatra being of mixed decent such as the actress who played her
@@16ClarkKent Show me the evidence and I’ll retract my public statement, but it needs to be compelling evidence. All the “evidence” I’ve seen, is not compelling at all in fact I wouldn’t even consider it circumstantial. Moreover using the word “racist” to try and cancel me or label me in a negative light so that I would agree is a form of intimidation. That’s not how academia works and most importantly it’s not how freedom works. That’s tyranny.
@@16ClarkKent mentions evidence, does not give it…🤔
You did not just explain why they are wrong, you even did their literal job for them - bravo 👏
Yeah. It's a shame they are so inept. Indeed if you just bothered to do a bit of research you could find a lot of stories "fitting their narrative". But ofcource it's like Pinkett Smith all but basically said. It isn't really the point in any of this. The point *is* the political statement. They see a course of action and they know the results. And then they do just that. Sadly (for them) the point is to get people angry because of their disrespecting and then turn it to something else. They are that petty and pathetic.
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted.
Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Using information that racist came up with as a base yeah you can make the statement you just made! But it’s not dealing in truth as well hole! On the basis of the racist ancient Egyptians were Arabs! Even though all the real evidence points to them being black Africans but if the standard is what some racist wrote in a book then it’s easy to say I proved you wrong because all one has to do is stick to the racist talking points! Well let me drop a bombshell on you people in the late 1800 all archeologists agreed that ancient Egyptians were black African (you simply look this up) but when the racist whites heard this they went right out to and made these lies that most of you hold on to till today one day soon all you bigots will be proven 1000% wrong and will have no choice but state the obvious that they were black Africans and not Arabs! There still are black African Egyptians living in Egypt right now those Arabs are not Egyptians! They never spoke the language they built no pyramids where they came from the never ever wrote in hieroglyphs and didn’t even have a clue about this stuff until the racist white folks became interested in them I’m the late 1800s before that these Arabs called themselves Arab practiced Arab culture spoke Arabic wrote Arabic and are Muslims! What more do I need to point out they are not painted on no walls in no tombs all you see is brown skin people and it’s only one race of people who have brown skin and that is black people arab skin is white in reality! I’m order for them to fit into being ancient Egyptians you would have to some real great mental gymnastics just to get them close to being ancient Egyptians common sense would say if you had to go thru all that to be a people then the odds are you are not those people same way it is in America the country is majority white with a little of the original people still around the original people have been completely erased and replaced by white people it’s the same with the ancient Egyptians
their job is to push afrocentrist views, not to educate people. according to afrocentrism everything that is not deliberatly white is black. aborigines are black, various south east asian tribes are black, the americas are black (somehow the managed to build boats and reach the americas before the settlers from asia arrived) even japan and parts of china are black in their world. and by black they are not speaking of skin colour, they are speaking about sub-saharan african cultures and civilisations that mysteriously crumbled when the europeans arrived and where therefore never mentioned by white missionaries or other white people. and if the cracks begin to be too obvious its the good old racism card combined with crazy conspiracy theories, because then archeology is a white intervention to keep the blacks down and lie to them about their great past as rules of the world.
its pure fucking madness and i wish i would have never stumbled across this chesspool of maniacs, racist and idiots. in their quest to be someone, to be the successor of someone other than a bronze age farmer living in the 16th-19th century they became what they claim to fight... a bunch of racist fucktards.
No! You just educated me at 60 on a marvelous warrior queen! Thank you and yes sir you're correct a very sad miss on Jadas part in changing facts. Hollywood is a joke and its new movement is laughable, this country needs real help 😢
Will Smith!! Keep your wife’s name out of Egypts F-ing History!!!!
He can't even keep her out of other men's beds.
@@alexy.3512 because Will Smith is gay himself and doesn't care
@@alexy.3512 correction: " her sons friends beds "
I miss old Will smith, like Bad Boyz, Independence Day Will Smith. ...😢
He can't even keep her away from other dudes' d*cks.
Saying this is an accurate historical documentary is like saying Jada is a loving and supportive wife.
That burn is hotter than the fire of Alexandria
😂
Watch the slap...
Will wants to know your location
🔥 burn
A woman who could not remain faithful to her husband cannot remain faithful to history because she does not feel like it. Shocker.
Entangled in history.
@@Losantiville Bravo sir.
Obliterated
100% Right On Targe!!👍
historically adulterous?
This is so fascinating. Africa has a lot of very, very interesting history that's not often portrayed in media. It would be amazing to actually show us a much less seen side of history. Thank you, Metatron. I really love learning these rather "obscure" bits of history
7:50 As a black person, I cannot agree more. It's so sefreshing to actually see there are still reasonable people with reasonable thinking! This whole video is like an oasis in the deseret of this culture war nonsesnse.
Thank you for your mind words
Sadly, there are plenty of fascinating black female personages from the history of Sub-Saharan Africa that they could have done a real service by bringing into the public consciousness, but they went for a far easier target. A damned shame.
@@kingleech16 A shamefull display indeed, and disgrace both to black history and white history, and history in general. She wanted to empower black people but this is a disservice for the black community aswell. I am glad that "every side" just rejects this bs.
@@kingleech16 Like who
The same goes with Disney replacing Ariel instead of doing a movie about Mami Wata or any of the other mermaid stories/legends that African people have.
"Oh, Lawd! Why would that be a good thing to you, Amir? You're Egyptian."
The fact that Cleopatra wasn't actually Egyptian is one of the great things about her. The Ptolemaic dynasty was Greek and was given rulership of Egypt after Alexander the Great conquered it and during their reign they pretty much maintained their greek customs and not one of them bothered to learn egyptian, the language of the people they ruled.
Cleopatra was the exception. She loved her people and learned their language, their history and customs and really made an effort to blend Greek and Egyptian cultures in a way that her predecessors didn't try. She was not of Egyptian heritage but fought for the prosperity of Egypt and her people loved her for that.
Why would you want to take that away? Should we really only love and admire people of the same race and culture as us?
That's sounds amazing
'Should we really only admire people of the same race and culture as us?'
- When it comes to 'people of color' nowadays, that's _exactly_ what the case seems to be.
And more than that - white people aren't allowed to have heroes or people of their own to admire. They get called 'colonizers' or they owned slaves, despite the fact that such was the way of the world at the time. So their statues are torn down and white children are taught that they're inherently racist in public schools.
Introducing a historical hero who happens to be white is called 'perpetuating White Supremacy' now.
It's so far out of hand it's ridiculous, and it was only a matter of time before they started race swapping actual white historical figures.
They've already burned through a lot of our fictional heroes, often tearing them down along the way.
Theyre closet ethno-nationalist.
I never knew that. Yeah, we really should show history as it acrually was. Otherwise, what's the point?
To me she may as well have said "you're French, why do you care if Marie Antoinette was Austrian?" It's history. Accuracy isn't about preference, it's about the many lessons we learn from unearthed truths.
I have tried and tried and tried to explain this to people for at least a decade, eventually I get tired of getting called a racist simply because I used to be a History Major in college, and just gave up.
dont give up man. Keep fighting the good fight.
You don't have to be a history major to see it.
The truth will never go away no matter how hard the idiots try to bury it.
I get you bro, but just like Metatron said the word racist, bigot, misogyny are so overused that it lost all meaning and power, so be proud that you want to fight for the truth!
I can't imagine how infuriating this all must be to actual historians.
It's so refreshing to see someone who can express themselves, has really investigated the matter and can argue without getting personal. I just discovered you today and I can't stop watching one video after the other. Thanks for your hard work!
Your 10 minute documentary is more informative than the entire multi million dollar production Cleopatra documentary
Exactly! 👏🏼👏🏼 second video I watch if him and I’m definitely going to watch more now
@@AmyHoldaway27 this was my first video of meta and I can agree with you on your statement! I will be watching more of him!
I feel like i'm in a classroom and i think i like it
The show looks cheap as hell tbh.
And on top of that, he was very courteous. I am a black man and a history researcher from West Africa. I assure you, there has never been a such thing as "black warrior queen" in our history! This exist only in American female rap music and later in Hollywood!
In fact, there were not even "black warrior king" in the African regions from which black Americans descended. The people of those regions were the most peaceful humans on the earth and did not know anything about wars or fighting! They used their primitive weapons only for hunting animals...
After all, if there were black warrior kings in Africa really! there wouldn't be any black Americans in the first place ;)
FINALLY!!! Someone mentions Queen Amanirenas!! She's one of the coolest rulers in history and I've always been baffled by how the same people who complain about not having stories about black queens have never thought to make a movie about her.
Good point 👉
It's just that people never bother to watch further than western/European culture. Africa is such an incredibly diverse and interesting continent with many amazing cultures. Why not make movies based on this instead of remaking a story we've heard a million times already but altering the historical narrative for diversity's sake? I think it's insulting even, that we ignore all the amazing stories and diverse cultures other places have to offer...
Black Panther has shown that it works, the fact that movie producers did not become inspired by that just baffles me.
Never heard of her actually, weird
Maybe she will be played by a white woman. Or a white men....
But no, we all know that it only works the other way.
she is not a bantu so for african american she is not kin, probably locked like the royal family of ethophia, who are closer related to europeans than to western african.
A better historical documentary in less than 20 minutes than 99% of the professionally produced ones coming out now
Netflix documentaries are usually big jokes
Lol, okay. Simp a little harder for willfully ignorance in favor of political bias.
@@zbelair7218 if wanting historical accuracy is politically biased, then maybe that shows something about where your politics lie.
That is because all of the trash movies coming out today are all agenda geared. An agenda to change our history to fit whatever narrative the Elite want to push. Since 2020 I feel like we all have been part of a massive social experiment by these freaks b/c they are causing way to much chaos on purpose with their rhetoric of hate and push for D.E.I. above all else.
I’m not surprised modern Egyptians do not want to be identified as black because Eurocentrism has invented a racial hierarch; White, Brown (Asian) and black, where middle East and Egyptians do not neatly fit. The question is not whether Cleopatra was black but why they don’t want to acknowledge the possibility she was black - they cant bear to admit that modern civilization might have started with black people.
Hi from Greece and thank you for this video. Cleopatra was of Greek origin, descendant of the Ptolemy's royal dynasty, who rouled Egypt after Alexander's the Great death. There's something weird about the Smiths...
Thank you. As a person of Greek ancestry, this “documentary” makes me sick. If you want to make a fantasy picture, then cast whoever you like, but if you are trying to re-write history, and write the Greeks out of it? No thanks!
That's exactly correct. They are saying it's documentary to brainwash people, steal other people's culture, it's fucked up
Pfff you know Greeks have been wh*te since ancient times right? SUPER ra*ist 🤣🤣
Absolutely. For Hellas!
look man cleopatra is all yours but what have you done in the last 3,000 years except make them nasty sandwiches
It’s just wishful thinking of a bunch of racist that want history to be the way they are because they cannot relate to people unless they are of their own race.
As a Nubian-Egyptian, i salute you for your efforts shedding light on our Nubian history which is often an under-told part here in our education system. I also would like to add that Nubians (specifically Egyptian Nubians) are intertwined and bonded with other Egyptians in many ways (If you're a Nubian, you're a celebrity LOL). Also the old Nubian language was used in 6th of October war in 1973 as a code for communications between different units in the military. Also, i wanna state that here in Egypt people, in fact, don't recognize race as Americans do, you're either Egyptian or not regardless. And yes, we have some nationalists who say a bunch of other stuff that i don't wanna get into... and also yes, we Nubians have a bunch of problems here. That Netflix movie sparked outrage here from literally everyone regardless of color.
Thank you for sharing your experience
Mohamed
So are Egyptians welcomed in Nubia? And treated as well as you are in Egypt?
@@onlythetruth883
it's all Egypt, there's no such thing as being unwelcome in certain parts or more welcome in other parts
Egypt is not a divided country
being called Nubian is not a political identity here in egypt
it's just a friendly way to identify which region in the country you are originally from
for example calling yourself "iskandarani" means you're from Alexandria
"Bahrawy" means you're from El Beheira Governorate specifically, and more commonly it means you're from the north if people from the south are using the word
because "Bahr" means sea in Arabic
and yes it's true that Nubians are very popular
in fact it's kind of a tradition to bring a Nubian band for a celebration before the wedding called "Henna"
skin color is not a thing here, this is how Americans think
if an African american is calling light skin Egyptians invaders, a Nubian person will be just as outraged and upset about it
@@A-h.m.e-d Interesting comments.
My brother, when I see such questions like your question, I feel sad. I am from the south of Egypt, from Aswan, a man with black skin, but even black and white Egyptians have the same features in appearance with different colors, in relation to the difference in geography between northern and southern Egypt and all of Egypt since its inception. There is no racism in it as we see it in other places. Like America and South Africa, Arabs, Nuba, Muslims, and Christians, all are Egyptians, and there is no place for one allowed and forbidden for another, and there is no distinction between group from group or sect from sect. It differs from the south. Egypt, since it is on the Mediterranean Sea, you will find that its people are white, brown, black, and so on, just like all the riparian countries on the Mediterranean Sea, such as Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, and Mauritania.
The fact that they call it a Documentary makes this terrifying, why is America okay with throwing education out the window every damn time.
Next documentary
Earth was falt 😂
Because the Americans have got no history of their own. They say they kicked our buts(British) not mentioning most of our forces were fighting in Europe and we did not have the will to fight our cousins in USA. Plus they had help from the French and Spaniards
Americans live in a parallel world, carefully constructed of ideologies & fairy tales, utterly divorced from reality, the world, and truth.
I love how these comments are filled with “Americans are dumb and woke based on my personal opinion.” That so perfectly encapsulates why media like this works. It’s so easy to make people believe what they already want to believe.
@@johnrichardson7652 IKR. The only history Americans have is completely dominating the world in record time. Brits 100% have more history and tooth decay.
I'm not black, but well delivered indeed. What a phenomenal story AND interestingly delivered, taking us along the clues and their interpretation. I'm supposed to be working but I guess... I'm on a binge now.
Cleopatra spoke several languages, including Koiné (ancient Greek), Egyptian and Aramaic.
At that time, the Greeks in Egypt spoke only Koiné and refused to learn the local languages, as a political demand, like any self-respecting invader.
In contrast, the Egyptians were bilingual following the Persian occupation, and also spoke Aramaic (the administrative language during the occupation).
A Greek-Macedonian mother would never have been able to teach her daughter to speak Egyptian and Aramaic, because she didn't speak them. Only an Egyptian mother could have taught Cleopatra to speak Egyptian and Aramaic.
Cleopatra therefore had Egyptian blood. Cleopatra therefore had African blood.
As for her skin colour, it could have been anything like that of Rashida Jones, Quincy Jones' daughter.
It’s embarrassing how you gave us an amazing history lesson of a black queen with the resources at your disposal and they couldn’t do a decent documentary with millions at their disposal. 🤦♂️😑
That's what happens when you lie, or "intersect untruths," to be more PC.
The story of Kandake you told was thousand times more interesting than any fairytale lies Netflix could come up with.
Are you listening, Netflix? Maybe you should give your money and support behind ACTUAL historians, like Metatron, for a documentary series instead of this mess.
I would definately watch that
To be honest i want to see documentary about this. You know like about... actual history.
Kandake was awesome. Also, it seems to me, a better figure for a documentary. You know, help her story become better known an all that.
Yes, agreed!
This is perfect for a documentary, specifically because the vagueness of the Roman accounts, the statue, the letter and the narrative beats Metatron already points out!
It would have been easier and Egyptians, especially those from the south, might actually like such an inspiring piece of history being brought to light! Egypt would probably welcome it. So sad, with only a little effort, as Metatron said, this documentary could have been empowering, uplifting and inspiring.
Loved the story about the African Queen Line. They should get actual historians to make these, not random Hollywood people who have nothing to do with history.
This is representation, showing the lesser known stories and facts of history, not washing, in any color, the histories of other people.
the problem is historians aren't rich and privileged like these Hollywood types.
the fact of the matter is they clearly don't think it would attract viewers, I'm not american but they seem to be obsessed with claiming ancient Egypt as black and I think its all about the glamour and the style. you don't really see anything based on black history the only thing I can think of was the ITV show Shaka Zulu which I loved but I was a child at the time and have not seen it since I do remember it having some magic in it so take it with a pinch of salt.
What was provided was a brief description and it was captivating! Could you imagine a docuseries or movie!?
I'm not sure what's worse: inaccurate films or neglecting potential accurate ones.
@@FFNOJG Fact, I agree.
But Hollywood are the poor, submerged in scarcity not consulting with Historians.
Hollywood also distributes this scarcity by neglecting the public solid, accurate, educational films.
@@GreatSageSunWukong They aren't concerned with actually making the best film possible, or the most accurate film. they are in a cult, and the best currency to them is one of adherence to the religion. You have to remember this religion also created D.I.E (diversity, inclusion, equity (this word is gibberish)) Jobs which add nothing, and are just parasites leaching money off the system. they are akin to paying a tithe to the church back in the day.
Thank you for telling us the story of the Kandake! It seems to me to indeed be a far more compelling story that really deserves a documentary.
Jada Pinket Smith was one of Earth's mistakes.
She deserves all the rejection she gets.
Dont let Will Smith hear you say that.
-Chris Rock (probably)
She already ruined will smith. She has to stop ruining other people or historical events.
She probably told Tupac to jump that fool in Vegas.
She completely fell short of the mark she herself had set with njinga.
@@keenkingjames "No matter where I go, I see the same ho." That lyric was about her.
Maybe its because I'm a history nerd, or maybe its because I just really enjoy Metatron's content but someone needs to give this man a budget for his own documentary. This was an awesome historical account of the Kandake.
There were a couple of them, with really interesting stories; Ms Jada 'entanglement' Pinkett-Smith could have told one of them, all of them - hell, I said it in another comment a week or so back- if they wanted to use the concept of an alliance between the two, giving the name recognition of Cleopatra as a springboard to explore the Candaces of Meroe, I would have been interested in this series - as it is, that trailer showed me all I needed to know about what kind of historical adherence she was going to apply to this...
Absolutely support this! If I had the financial means, I would do it. And I would surely watch any documentary this man brought out.
@@OcarinaSapphr- An alliance between badass queens? *Give me this documentary!*
Yes, I want to see a real documentary or historical movie about Kandake!
Honestly, I'd spare a few Euros/Dollars for that. Imagine if even just half of his subs donated $5 for it. He'd get rather far already I'm sure.
Celebrities have grown to believe that being famous means that everything they say has value and credibility and their fame means they can never be wrong.
The fallacy of authority. The appeal to authority fallacy is the logical fallacy of saying a claim is true simply because an authority figure made it.
As a historian, even I didn't know the story of the black queen of Kush. That would have been a heck of a better use of Pinkett-Smith's time. I did, however, know that Cleopatra was Greek. I love your channel. I am now obsessed. Thank you. I love learning something new every day.
Thank you for giving the example of an actual black queen. As someone who loves tales of queens, hearing a new one was wonderful.
Not Cleopatra, try the Queen of Sheba!
They put it out as a documentary,thus lying, trying to change history.... you do know what a documentary is, right
If you think about it since the term queen is quite euro and middle Eastern centric, any black wife of a culture ,with effectively the same absolute and often god given power is a if not an actual queen, a "queen". Have fun looking up other black "queens". Cleopatra is only a queen because she is of Greek ancestry for example, all the other Pharoes and their wives had the same level of power if not more, the rest is semantics.
@@CalridRobnor123srs ironically, a lot of black women refer to themselves as “queens” 😂
No. Cleopatra was not black.
I think we can all agree that Jada is absolutely ridiculous and this is the only way she can attempt to make herself relevant. She's ridiculous.
She‘s just saying what stupid people want to hear.
She obviously, deep down, has an inferiority complex. Don't know how you can explain it any other way!
She can't be faithful to her husband, how can she says the truth in a documentary 😊😊😊
@@macymac73 true. An unfaithful spouse is the worst kind of liar.
@@melfreemans 🎯 someone who can't even be honest with their spouse is someone nobody should ever trust
We stand with our brothers and sisters in Egypt!!! We will not and CANNOT allow thier history to be erased. If we allow their history to be erased, forgotten and rewritten than ALL of human history will follow the same fait. Keep it going our Egyptian friends! You guys are a beacon for the world
Funny how you say we can't allow their history to be erased as they erase the islamic invasions from history lol.
Wow, that story about the Khandake (I definitely misspelled it) sounds amazing. They should make a docudrama about it.
I as a leftwing Black man am constantly getting into brawls with the Black movement and large swaths of the left in general over this. We cannot condemn the right for rewriting history and overlooking scholarly research if we do the same when it suits us.
Indeed. And as you know, if you want to destroy a country, start with denying its history. With that in mind, one can understand why Egyptians view Afrocentrism from the West with a lot of apprehension.
@@cecaloather8701 I don't even think it's some concerted effort to destroy anything. For most it's more out of desperation. They want so badly to reclaim their identity, they don't much care about the truth. And aided by postmodern thinking they may even come to the conclusion that the truth doesn't matter.
Enter shrewed millionnaires like Jada Pinkett, crazy to make a few quid in the easiest and laziest way possble and, well... here we are.
You’re wasting your time even bothering with this crap. Even as a black dude. I have ways I can perceive grievances in my life, too, and I just don’t give a crap anymore. I just want to be left alone…. BY EVERYONE! Left and right! Top and bottom! Two halves of the same coin! All a waste of time.
@@cecaloather8701 If the Egyptians let this rhetoric go unchecked, they will see the total destruction of their country from the inside out, as well.
Bravo! And the truth shall set you free! Trying to argue with someone with truth and facts v.s. Personal opinions is futile. I have been there myself
Your channel is one of the few that truly promotes humanism, the arts and history. You have done more for education and research than all these so called documentaries and activists.
Keep up the amazing work my man ! :D
Thank you Lars
Absolutely this. I don't care which race or culture it is when it comes to history. If I'm going to learn about it, I want the most *honest* and faithful retelling of events; no matter how the events look in the modern day or how/why they took place.
Humanism? Is the original dialectic of the absolute disaster we see in western society/humanity today. It reigned for 3,500 years before Christianity and didn't work out to well. The MANTRA OF HUMANISM "Morality is natural, it is a social convention and convenience, not a divine command. There is no need to control instincts and emotions; they are commands of nature. The purpose of life is to live; and the only wisdom is happiness". We're all "livin" that's for sure. While the humanists try to kill everyone on the planet.
🤮 humanism.
@@metatronyt
God bless you, sir.
In case it wasn't noticed. The cover picture is all shades of brown and the actress is made to look as dark as possible. This show was all about Jada wanting to make Cleopatra appear black and when the trailer shows an old lady saying
'my grandmother told me when I was a child, no matter what they teach you in school, Cleopatra was black'
This is the kind of 'evidence' they used to make an 'historical documentary'.
It's all because of the lie propagated within the African American community that they are all descendants of kings and queens. It's not just Egypt. Some of them think they are Moors. Just because you can't figure out your identity, doesn't give you permission to steal someone else's.
What is really sad is that if you live outside of the USA, you probably have a better knowledge of US history than Americans do.
It's hilarious because even as a kid I knew that black/African people had to be complicit in the slave trade in some way. We were taught that they were "brought over". They weren't hunted, captured, and dragged over here from Africa (what part was never specified); they were _bought._ We were never taught in school who they were bought _from,_ but it was obvious to me: Every other group of people had leaders; why _wouldn't_ Africa? And if they didn't want their people being taken away, there would've been a war/battle. But there wasn't.
Buuuut, if you bring any of that up, the conversation is swiftly returned to damning "the white man", and all talk of Africa is removed from the conversation. It's a hell of a blow to your pride to realize that your ancestors were literal goods, I guess.
*TL;DR:* I think it's hilarious and sad that even a child could figure out that anyone with slave ancestry were, in fact, NOT kings/queens. Even beyond slavery, not everyone can be a king/queen, anyway. That defeats the purpose of a king/queen!!
@TaoScribble amazingly good points. And to caveat, schools also propagate the lie that Africans were the first slaves to be brought over during the Atlantic Slave Trade. When the Irish were the first slaves to be shipped to the Americas and surrounding countries/ islands. This was long before the AST. But because the Irish are white, we just omit that part of history cause it serves zero purpose for the agenda.
They did the same thing with Cleopatra in 1963, a certain group getting a kick out of replacing Cleopatra with their own ethnicity in retribution for their perceived historic oppression and slavery.
@@Valchrist1313 Ok bud, take a sip from your Light
@@TaoScribble They were bought and then just taken in general. Colonialism was a thing too.
Man you reignited my interest in History, thank you so much. Academia made my interest in my favourite subjects like History and IT vanish. But youtubers like you reignite that spark and make me wanna learn more. Thanks man
What I love most about this episode, is that you did not spend the entire time tearing down the Netflix 'documentary' and instead presented what could have been. And, might I add, with a flare and attention to detail that only you can present! I would love to see you do an episode on the Toureg. These North African peoples have always fascinated me. Or the Nabateans. 🙂
Just representing what it could have been seems like more of a takedown honestly.
Yeah. This is an excellent example of how to closed fisted punch the SJW movement in the face. I can't think of a more brutal punishment to their ideology in recent history.
Absolutely, on both counts. The problem for the people behind this Cleopatra travesty is that to present a true story, such as the one about the Kandake, would have required research a bit deeper than 'Egypt's in Africa, right, so they must have been black'. Also of course, the general public, whose knowledge of history is limited, would not know of the Kandake, or probably even of the Kingdom Of Kush, but they do know Cleopatra. Sadly we live in denuded times where exploring lesser known pathways on TV is a non-starter (unless of course it can be spun into current political fashions).
@@ShanghaiRooster people know about cleopatra because shes so represented in documentaries and historical fantasies (or just fantasies that have her in it...for reasons...).
Media has been able to advertise Cleo in a very interesting way to get even young people who dont know about her drawn in. They can do the same with those queens. They just chose not to.
@@Rhaenarys Cleo's name has been well known in anglophone nations since at least 1607 when Shakespeare wrote his 'Anthony and Cleopatra'
Maybe Hollywood should give Jada Pinkett Smith the role of Rapunzel as a way of cultural appropriation and inclusivity of people with baldness. Ok, Will Smith will slap me now xD
Have her play any of the bolsheviks in a”documentary” and they would flip the fuck out
Lmao
OMG! This is the best comment of the day 😂 👏
Now i need to see that happen. You reap what you sow.
The only role that fits Jada Pinkett Smith is that of the Borg Queen. Plays nice until she injects her nano droids into young dumb men.
Netflix has billions of dollars, but you managed to an interesting story of a powerful black woman (the kandake, a Kushite) that is backed by history. Thanks, the world needs more historians like you.
Cleo isn't black stoopid.
@@MrAlwaysRight I'm sorry, did you actually watch this video? Metatron's whole video is about a Kushite (who are black) queen who defied Rome... based on historical evidence. Finish a video before commenting please.
@@MrAlwaysRight Nobody said anything about Cleo being black, did you fail basic reading comprehension?
Yes, and she is diminishing the importance of black history by falsely claiming that cleopatra was black, rather than actually focusing on real historical black figures.
Loved it, always great hearing about other history not covered in the mainstream. African history in particular seems to be a massive empty space that must be filled with other treasures like this. Thank you for your dedication to sharing this.
I've heard about the Kandake somewhere mentioned in a documentary but I never knew their story.
Thank you so much for delivering these facts! 😊
You are amazing. As a white women, the second half of this video was inspiring! I really really hope someone, somewhere would make a tv/film about these women. It would be so much more interesting learning about someone most people haven't heard of, rather than retelling the same stories over and over, changing facts to suit your agenda.
For Jada to basically say that REAL black history isn't interesting enough to make a film about, must surely feel like a slap in the face to black women.
No kidding! Well said!
Very true. I mean, Jada really needs to get a clue.
Real black history isn’t interesting. Lots of cannibalism, murder, grape and living in mud huts. They are not the same as other humans and it’s tiresome playing this charade.
the slap we SHOULD be talking about XD
@@alexnikolov 🤣🤣🤣
The inaccuracy is infuriating but on top of that all the crying about cultural appropriation and then this... Hypocrisy is so grotesque. Someone should do a documentary about Jada Pinket Smith and have a Greek woman play her.
Someone like Nia Vardalos from "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" . . .
Cleopatra might have been Greek but, ancient Egypt was definitely black African….not Persian like the lies perpetuated…
@@evag4535 Go back to school.
@@johndoe-nb7ym ancient Egyptian were indigenous black African…I don’t have to go back to school to learn that God given fact…you can have Cleopatra
@@evag4535 Ancient Egyptians were *definitely not* black African. There may have been _some_ , because of trade and such, but they weren't indigenous black African, its not a God given fact, nor is "Cleopatra" the netflix "documentary" a respectable representation of history.
They can dress it up all they like, but it reeks of insecurity and desperation.
Nobody truly believes Cleo was black, it stems from a group desperate for historical relevance.
Especially when there's plenty of actual black African queens in history to portray.
Then again, look what happened when they tried that with "The Woman King", lol.
That's false though. Plenty of people believe she was black without any doubt in their minds, that's the problem
Actually, there are people that do, not saying that they're correct, mind you, but you really shouldn't underestimate people's stupidity and willful ignorance.
Well actually people do and the ancestry of her mother has been in question for a long period.
Are you saying black people are historically irrelevant?
Section 2 is cool. I love historians like you because I learn the mist fascinating stories.
But also, you've delivered not only a better example of what Mrs. Robinson tried to do, but a better story for the Woman King. I would love to see this as a movie, just as you described it.
You really hit the nail on the head! The ironic thing is, I literally knew nothing about this Kandake, and I REALLY wanna know more now! She NEEDS her own documentary or show. Making Cleopatra black is racist, stupid and quite frankly does exactly the opposite of what they wanted...
Check out the historical novel "The Autobiography of Cleopatra"; Kandake is a major character.
I'm sure Holly-weird is scrambling right now to make a movie about them. They'll claim they meant to do it all along 😂
Of course you knew nothing... you never bothered to know anything about Africa beyond redneck lies like "no kingdoms, no metallurgy".
I hear she's doing a documentary on Boudicca next. The famous Iceni black queen.
Not to mention this is real cultural appropriation.
What’s funny is that Gal Gadot is actually from the eastern Mediterranean. Her appearance is far more similar to the actual Cleopatra than the actress they chose.
Much of the controversy over Gal Gadot, other than from African Americans, is that she is Israeli and supports Israel's policy on Gaza and Palestine.
@@robo5013 “and supports Israel’s policy on Gaza and the Palestine”
I don’t follow Gal or anyone from Hollywood to a great degree, but I can honestly say I have never heard her speak out in favor for any specific Israeli policy. Like most Israelis, including those on the Left, she doesn’t want Israel to cease to exist. Which I understand to some people not committing national collective suicide is indistinguishable from supporting every bad thing done to Palestinians, but that simply isn’t so
Cleopatra wasn't known for being of grandiose beauty. Gadot is pretty. At the very least her skin color is certainly closer to what Cleopatra would have looked like,
@@benjaminr6153 She's been asked about those things when she's home by the Israeli press. She doesn't stump about America spouting Israeli propaganda, but the Egyptians started protesting her casting in the role for the new movie as soon as it was announced and the SJW's here picked up on it and began to talk about it too, on top of her not being black.
@@doswheelsouges359 gal gadot is more than just “pretty.” She’s down right gorgeous.
I'm Black, and I love your definition of "racist"😂😂 I didn't know about this story. But I burst out laughing when you told where the emperor's bronze head was!!!🤣🤣😘
I remember I was watching a streamer on twitch playing trackmania (a racing game) when someone asked him something like "are you a socialist or a leftist" and he said "this is a trackmania stream; I'm a racist- a racer" was pretty funny watching him get flustered. The wordplay makes sense but obviously that word is already in use.
The Warrior Queen Amanirenas is amazing, the fact that she continued a lengthy Campaign against Rome during its prime under Augustus... on top of the fact that the Romans won a battle, really shows the power of the Kushites. To get back up and punch even harder against the Romans.
@@nodosa994 Yeah, I would really like to see an historically accurate movie about her than see yet another movie about Cleopatra.
They're trying hard to tell us lies and spread unnecessary hate & anger. I'm glad we have people like you to bring back logic and honour THE truth and not the personal desires!
That story about the war between Rome and Kush was super interesting. I would LOVE to see a show about that with the kind of budget Smith had and with the commitment to historical accuracy and diligence that Metatron has.
JUst hearing you recite history is more entertaining than any modern movie could come close to. Great Job!
Thanks Wayne
It's because we have such entertaining historians like Metatron that people watched them over going to Ridley Scott's medieval revisionist movies
It's getting banal, but AS A GREEK WOMAN XD I thank you for your intention to present history as it is. The world needs to know that Greeks are not black, but we have many shades, depending on the region and ancestry. In summer it's very common to sunbathe to get a good tan, and children sometimes compete in September in whose tanning is better. Our colour varies from milky white (✋🏻) to light chocolate brown. But despite any race mixing, historically we've never, ever have been black/ African (especially in the ancient times!).
But that Jesus character can always be a blue-eyed nordic man, got it.
@@ellishaindobo1794 Except for most Greek Orthodox iconography, Jesus is dark/olive skinned.
@@ellishaindobo1794 You haven't been in many museums have you? Most of the representations I see of Jesus in my country (Spain) have dark brown hair and brown eyes lolz
@@ellishaindobo1794 Indian version of Jesus is also brown, so are Ethiopian and Nubian versions
@@ellishaindobo1794 It's nobody but your own people fault if you have little to no history. Desperately trying to steal other people's history make you look even dumber than you already are. This does nothing for you.
The second half of this video describing the actual female black warrior leaders was AMAZEBALLS. Take that truth twisters!
Gay!!
I'm all for history being tolsd as it was, not being racially politicized garbage. Sure, this story should be told. However, if I got Metatorn right, Rome still won. It being "more difficult" & some demands being granted before still eventually winning, doesn't really change much. As for "warrior queen". Nope. Women didn't fight in battles, especially those with only one eye! Men with one eye might well have because, you know, necessity, but no "depth of field" in your vision would be a massive disadvantage when fighting.
What a missed story and opportunity, but atleast we heard it here😊
Considering Romans were usa-level 🐂💩ers, irl, they got thoroughly buggered down there👍
@@markfernandes2467 Of course Rome won. We're talking about ROME here. It's the fact that a less technologically developed, less organized people were able to put up a respectable fight against the Roman army at all that's impressive.
Have to hand some credit to Jada and Netflix. With people debunking their ideological, post-modernist feminist BS, people are probably learning more about Cleopatra now than they have in decades!
Good point.
It's not a good point because nothing about this is postmodern. It's just made up. None of the French post structuralists encouraged rewriting history, quite the opposite. In fact, deconstructing the false sign of a black Cleopatra requires postmodern theory in the first place.
@@TropicalPriest Ah, there's what the French postmodernists thought and then there is what subsequent people did with their ideas. I don't care that Foucault or Derrida might have not agreed with how the woke activists use the tools they provided; I care that they do use those tools.
It's a form of applied postmodernism, if you will (as James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose call it). It may not be the "purest" form of postmodernism, but the woke ideology surely uses postmodernism to its aims. So, yes, I stand by my comment that the OP's post has a good point.
Actually thats very true!
STANLEY ANN DUNHAM
I clicked on this video for well deserved criticism of Netflix's so called "documentary". At some point I forgot all about that and found myself immersed in this awesome story of Kandake. Why Netflix won't hire people like yourself to write their documentaries? Well, we all know why, anyway, you're the GOAT man!
Thanks!
I've been watching this Chanel for 5 years, love it. But this vídeo is one of the best you ever made.
We live in a world where I, an Egyptian, could get criticized for wearing the symbols of my culture by the same folks trying to appropriate said culture because my skin tone is lighter than theirs. 🤦♂
I'd say Jinzo Smith is setting all of us people of African descent, regardless of ethnicity color or culture back, but I think the level of ignorance here is something entirely new. Thanks for another great video Metatron
Thank you. You just ruined Jinzo decks for me.
It’s sadly true that people are not as educated as they could be. MANY American Blacks assume that if from Africa, one is Negro.
As we know not true. Smith is educated. Her choice to do what she did was a political statement. She actually DID insult Blacks by race swapping with a famous Egyptian Queen.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Cultural appropriation.
METATRON YOU LITERALLY PUT JADA IN THE BURN UNIT WITH THIS RESPONSE VIDEO!
You take everything they say they want and deliver it with such badass efficiency, telling the story of a REAL strong, independent African queen! You show how easy it is to find these amazing black historical figures, there’s no need to steal figureheads of other cultures.
It highlights the laziness in the research of Jada Pinkett Smith.
Thank you for your support
Her definition of history is right up there with her definition of marriage.
Will has cheated before as well. Both of them knew what they were doing. Stop being a woman hater
@@womeninadjusting7329
He did, but she did it first. Doesn't excuse either of them. Only thing missing is him bringing her on TV to explain publicly how it wasn't his fault. And now, she got entangled in history falsehoods too. What a shame.
@@doswheelsouges359 He is a grown man stop blaming her
@@doswheelsouges359 how do you know she cheated first? No one knows anything outside of what they’ve shown on media. It’s weird to speak on it with such certainty
@@womeninadjusting7329 She has taken no accountability for her actions. Will at least knows when he has done wrong. Jada is off with the fairies. Is that the feminist sword you want to die on, love?
Thank you Metatron, for the time and effort you put into this. One can only hope that people in charge of making documentaries posses a fraction of your competence in the future.
Incredible video. Unless it’s a work of fiction, I’m insulted when people race swap historical figures. They could have also done an amazing documentary of Nzinga, who was an Angolan warrior queen who fought against the Portuguese slave trade, or chosen to represent Amina, Queen of Zaria, or Queen Nandi of the Zulu.
She said there was "tons to choose from", but I have a feeling her brain-storming session was just Cleopatra written down on a piece of paper 4 times....
I hope some of the outraged black Americans take a moment to look up some of these references. Sadly, they don't even know that they don't know. There are so many black Africans worthy of learning about.
I've been telling my daughter that I want to watch a movie series (like Marvel) about drama/battles between different African mythological figures. Hollywood has such an opportunity to introduce us to so much that's not Greek/Roman/European. They just ignore it all. They could tell us about a mythological hero from one tribe and about a spirit tale from another. Teach us about the people/culture from the individual tribes.
I don't think they even know Africa has a history sometimes.
It's probably best that they don't try. They'd muck it up and end up insulting a few million more people. smh
@@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 Hollywood don't do shit bc most Afro Americans aren't interested in that in the first place. Most Black Americans don't know anything abt Africa and don't care abt it, they are just Black Americans and nothing more. To Hollywood, it's not interesting to speak abt real heroic and good African historical figure bc they want to put Whites against Blacks and it wouldn't be possible if they didn't race swap and things like that
@@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 Why? Just because they're the same skin color? Pick a queen, any queen, from an entire continent, that you've never had anything to do with. Lol. That's not heritage.
I play a lot of Civilization, I would love to see more mainstream depictions of the cultures featured in there. Just the little bit in there makes you want to see more.
People have been quoting your videos in my streams and video comments section. I think that shows that what you said here is making an impact and resonating with people. I’m glad to see that you and I have some shared audience because your work is excellent
Found it! Thank you man, I appreciate your words! I’ve been binging your content in my free time. 👍🏻 keep it up
The lack of awareness of these revisionists is astounding.
"Why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?"
So close to self awareness. So close.
Why is it so important for you, Jada, that she be black?
These people are racists who believe in black supremacy. And Egypt being black is part of their mythology. It's pretty simple really and just as ignorant as white racists.
Because Cleopatra is the only female name of royalty in Africa that she can think of. Are we to believe that Jada Smith is a scholar of the rich and diverse history of the continent and has researched the many other female leaders found in that mysterious land? No, because she is as dumb as she is arrogant.
The second half of this video did not disappoint and was a breath of fresh air in these times of prolific ignorance and political madness. Thanks!
Thank you for standing up to this woke garbage. We need more people like you who are interested in historical truths and just honesty in general.
Thank you for your support
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted.
Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
even woke people care about historical truth and honesty. but a decent part of any population is just plain stupid. the director and pinkett happen to be part of that stupid group at the bottom of the curve.
None of you people are really interested in historical truths! If you say that the ancient Egyptians weren’t black Africans then the truth doesn’t matter to you at all!
this is not woke
I'm Italian and love Italian and Greek history. However, I was brought to the U.S. and have lived half my life in the U.S. and I can't stand it there. I just came back to the U.S. to finish college and I am having the worst experience. I didn't know about this woke movement and it is everywhere here. They have lost touch with reality and its really destructive to so many things. Your vid was so well spoken. LOVED IT! and I'm subscribing. Keep speaking the truth
yep and some of us Americans are tired of it too. The problem here is that both ends of the political spectrum are nuts. Crazies everywhere.
I thought it was happening in Italy too, at least on the north, though not as much.
1) 1st definition of woke was pro women
minorities, gays + lesbians, etc. identity
politics vs. really still existing oppression
+ exploitation.
2) Reactionaries who hate all of above
attack some widely chauvinistic factions
among them to attack all factions of.
women, minorities, gays+ lesbians, etc.
3) As some videos say, now, woke is
used by so many different opposed factions--now---no meaning.
@@davidmiller9485 Man there's INSANE levels of polarization in your country I genuinely feel bad for the normal people in the US.
@@yugmathakkar4023 I think a lot of people are coming to the realization that the far left woke movement is a sham. But it’s still definitely a problem
I already knew about Amanirenas, so I was quite sure from the start of the video that you were going to mention her.
But I 100% agree with you, telling the story of the Kandakes would be way better than a rewriting of egyptian story and blackwashing the ptolemaic dynasty.
Accuracy is vital in portraying history and historical characters, if you want a fictional drama that’s fine your characters can be anything you like so long as the story is interesting, if you cannot stick to historical fact keep a way from historical documentaries
Absolutely love how you mention a story about a real and incredible Black Warrior Queen that could have been chosen to represent Black pride and history that’s ignored. But no they chose to misrepresent another story instead.
My brain can't logically process this, why are they stealing culture instead of showing their own true history, even when they show their history they turn villains into heroes and rewrite history like the The woman king. Why are they doing this
@@Tenchi707 I like how you aren't triggered by countless depictions of Romans and Brits as good guys.
@@Tenchi707 To demoralize us?
@@MagcargoMan What did they do wrong?
@@Friggsdottir A try-hard imperialism apologist playing dumb isn't worth my time.
This is why doing a proper research brings always the best. Not only you managed to respect historically accuracy and therefore educate, you also managed to tell us a really interesting story about an amazing historical character, too often overlooked.
As someone who likes to write stories about not so well known historical characters and events, I applaud you for being an inspirational guide, Metatron.
Keep up with this great work!
Something tells me Jada Pinkett, the producers & director do not care about the facts from research. Their only focus is on the agenda.
@@YourMajesty733indeed that crown Cleoptra is wearing is even associated eith Kush. So why copy and paste from Kushite history instead of just telling the history if there isn't an agenda?
@@admirekashiri6651 You talking about the crown that the actress is wearing in the fake documentary? Archeological discoveries depict Cleopatra wearing Egyptian headresses. That is to be expected, since she was the ruler of Egypt. We wouldn't expect her to wear a Greek crown. I'm talking about her ancestral bloodlines. Way to conflate things to fit your desired narrative. Nice try.
@@YourMajesty733 Uhh... the Egyptian "headdress" is not only different, but Cleopatra only used it for the coronation. She ruled from Alexandria, a Greek city founded by (guess who?) the (Greek) Alexander the Great.
On Cleopatra's visit to Rome her Greek diadem is mentioned a lot. There's even a joke about it, let me tell you of it.
Basically there were rumors Julius Caesar wanted to crown himself King. Most Romans also knew about him cheating on his wife with Cleopatra and the kid they had together.
So the story goes (as told by a Roman historian) that Julius was offered a 'diadem', which is what Greeks used for crowns, and he declined it, with some grandiose speech about respecting democracy yadda yadda.
People were obviously suspecting it was all a show.
Then outta nowhere Cicero (one of the senators) suddenly says "I wonder where he got THAT crown from"
@@YourMajesty733 the double serpent crown is associated with the Kushites. If you look at statues of the 25th dynesty, you'll see that's the crown most of the Qores (kings) have. I believe it represented their rule of both Kush and Egypt.
Final sentence of this video is so true! As someone who's ethnically sudanese (where the Kushites started) I am grateful for this incredible historical insight. Clearly, if this was about black empowerment, there's plenty of material in black/African history. I get so frustrated with these empty marketing gestures.
It’s more than marketing, it’s polito-religious crap.
Kingdom of kush reigns a thousand more years 😎💨💨💨💨🍁🍃
The thing is, as someone with actual heritage of the black skinned ancient Egyptians, you're not even the target audience, which they want to represent with race swapping this ethnically Greek queen, but actually people of west African descent (predominantly Afro-Americans).
The idea of an African queen putting the head of a statue of a Roman emperor under the steps of one of her temples so that her people could walk on his head all the time is, frankly, hilarious, and I feel robbed that we've not had a movie made about this woman yet.
I am gobsmacked imagine how many stories were lied about or manipulated into making us believe in a false reality. That’s actually a great deal of injustice not only to our ancestors but also for ourselves and future generations. What a noble act, bravo.
I 100% agree!!👍
I think it's safe to say all mainstream grand historical narratives about black people from before the Civil rights era are complete fictions. The only time slavery ever gets brought up is during American elections.
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