Queen Cleopatra - The Most Hated Show Of All Time?
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- The verdict is in for Netflix's Queen Cleopatra "documentary", and it's not looking good.
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I love how one of their pieces of evidence for cleopatra being black is literally “My grandma said so”
It’s just a step up from “trust me bro” 💀💀
💯 😂🤣😂🤣
I think *Drunk History* uses this as a premise too.
Maybe her grandma is 2103 years old and personally knew cleopatra who knows
There's an entire subculture of black Americans who not only think Cleopatra was black but that ancient Egypt was a "black African" civilization. All the depictions showing otherwise are fakes done by white supremacists for some nefarious purpose.
Egyptologist Sally-Ann Ashton who worked as a consultant for Netflix stated, “Cleopatra ruled in Egypt long before the Arab settlement in North Africa,” Ashton said in a statement. “If the maternal side of her family were indigenous women, they would’ve been African, and this should be reflected in contemporary representations of Cleopatra.”
Jada Pinkett Smith was about as loyal to the historical depiction of Cleopatra as she was to Will Smith.
Ha good one 😂
Lmaooo 🤣🤣🤣
She loves gettin in all sorts of “entanglements”
the comments r epic
I wonder how many more times I'll see this comment copied from the original, higher rated one. My guess is thousands lol, people can't help but copy top comments and farm them upvotes. And they always have the same reply somehow, "I didn't see the top rated comment!"....c'mon son lol
My grandmother told me, "no matter what Hollywood tells you, rewriting history to fit your narrative is bigotry".
Her grandmother: Why the fuck so many people are cursing me after I'm dead?! What did I do?
😂😂😂 Tbh, I feel a little sorry for her grandmother. There's always a clip of that statement in most coverages of this movie.
Historian always rewrite history to fit a narrative. You might be right that they may be bigots.
@@mighty-roman I don't. She set that "historian" to become a failure. Without that dead hag, this catastrophe wouldn't have been made.
@@junodonatus4906 I mean maybe she just didn't know. It's not impossible to think that at that place and time her grandmother was under the impression that you shouldn't trust public education. Obviously she was dead wrong in the end but I don't interpret it as maliciousness.
@@junodonatus4906 you should. She probably had no clear idea. But her granddaughter is literally African heritagr historian so she should knew better to be credible
The funniest thing about this whole thing is is that by just race swapping Cleopatra they unintentionally just said that there were no actual black queens who were worth talking about
Exactly. Plus, if you need to rely on race swapping, you're also saying that you don't think your race can make good characters on their own and need to rely on (insert other race) to make good original characters from them. It's self-racist and hillarious.
They dont wanna talk about african queens, because in true history, african kings and queens would sell their own as slaves. In fact many cultures in the past used to do this, specially in tribal cultures.
They didnt wanna make a documentary against that because its not in their political agenda.
The actual funniest part is Netflix lost the lawsuit that Egypt hit them with and they have to remove this abomination and pay Egypt 2 billion dollars…..it’s fucking hilarious actually.😅
Cleopatra was able to accept her African and Greek heritage. To the Egyptians she was Isis, to the Romans she was Venus. You can be more than one thing
@@David-ox7ps What African heritage?
The sheer level of projection with their "why is her skin color so important to you" had me floored. If her skin color didn't matter, then why are they changing it?
Whose changing it?? Have you seen a photo of Cleopatra which by the way isn't her original name, have you seen her remains?? So how do you what she looks like??
@@taz09216 We know she wasn't black African from contemporary depictions. It's not just that they show her with light skin and hair that a black woman wouldn't have - the strongest evidence is her facial structure which is nothing like those of black Africans.
@@taz09216 You deserve an award for the level of intelligence demonstrated by that comment.
They accuse others of that they do themselves. With literally everything.
The irony is in this situation is the fact she was a European/Macedonian who was literally a colonizer of an African nation. This is how you know the woketards are just stupid. You can cover all the bases of wokism.
"Velma is so awful it managed to bring everyone together."
Jada Pinkett: Hold my new boyfriend.
Jada's sons friend: Hold my integrity, and hers.
I laughed way to hard at your comment 😂😂😂
I think you mean, "Burp her new boyfriend."
Jada even made governmnets come together with the internet community.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOVE IT! 👌
Amazon: I can ruin a classic trilogy (LOTR)
Disney: that's nothing, I can ruin a cinematic universe (MCU)
Netflix: hold my bud-light. I will ruin history.
You forgot to mention the abominable Star Wars movies that Disney put out.
@@cathoderay305 What Star Wars movies? There haven't been any since Revenge of the Sith
@@cathoderay305rouge one was the only great one, solo was okay but the sequels were no
@@Ihavethetouch I don't recall any movie called Revenge of the Sith... I do remember Return of the Jedi, which was originally called "Revenge" of the Jedi. There have been a few cool video games though, some even cover the clone wars!
You should write: Disney: Thats nothing I cant make Star Wars irrelevant
I like how their argument that “every african must look sub saharan” is unironically racist
Blacks can't be racist, they can spit on any race, that's what in USA they call tolerance
Just like thinking all Asian must be yellow, nevermind its the largest continent that includes millions of etnics
Of course if they are black they also must look like Lizzo.
Damn is she Obeast.
I'm from the philippines and I've been told I'm not asian... what the heck am i then??
@@lawrencelopez9839 exactly, dumb as shit.
Especially for the phillipines where alot of people are fairly mixed.
_“Why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?”_
Because she was. The question should be “Why do _you_ need Cleopatra to be black?”
She was not white lmao. She was mixed race
She wasn't exactly "white" like Hollywood America thinks of "black" and "white" but that's the issue.
Hollywood and the far left ideologues are so racist that they can ONLY see the world in black or white. They literally had a meltdown when an actual Hawaiian actress was cast to play a Hawaiian character in a movie, because her skin was "too light a shade". These people are the actual bigots they accuse everyone else of being. Of course anyone with even half a brain already knows this, but i think the normies are finally starting to wake up to the fact that the woke are the most close minded bigoted fucksticks out there... ironically.
@KnowvilleKnows she came from a weird aristocratic family that intermarried the hell out of each other and, if historical claims are accurate, may have been the first of her family to actually speak Ancient Egyptian along with Greek. She may not have been "white" depending on what you define Greeks as, but she sure as hell wasn't "mixed".
@@Azgalon In the context of Cleopatra she was 100% white. It underminds the entire history of tolemaic egypt. They were colonized by a European power(macedon), if you want to get preachy focus on that. I'd be cool with that woman playing an egyptian female Pharos if it was dated back 2,000 bc. She's blackish, but I sincerely doubt she'd stand out if it her hair was straight in ancient egypt.
@@dixonhill1108 I'm not disagreeing that she was white. I'm replying to the guy above saying she was "mixed" which she absolutely was not. She was Greek which is white in the context of this discussion (but some people differentiate Mediterranean white from Northern European white). The black revisionism of the Mediterranean, be it Ancient Egypt or Carthage, is a joke.
“We don’t often get to see or hear stories about Black Queens”, & we STILL HAVEN’T. Thanks, Jada
😆 My thought exactly, Michael
I'm sure there is someone else she can steal.
She could have chosen any of these.
Kendakes (Queen) Amanirenas
Kendakes (Queen) Amanishakheto
Kendakes (Queen) Amanitore
Kendakes (Queen) Shanakdakhete
Kendakes (Queen) Nawidemak
Kendakes (Queen) Amanikhatashan
Sarauniya (Queen) Bakwa Turunku
Sarauniya (Queen) Amina
Lingeer (Queen) Ndate Yalla Mbodj
Lingeer (Queen) Njembot Mbodj
Queen Njinga Ngola Kilombo
Queen Idia
Queen Gudit
Queen Yanu
Queen Mary
Queen Agnes
Queen Mathilda
Princess Ewurabena Pokou
Queen Ndate Yalla Mbodj
Queen Mwana Mikisi
Queen Mwana Mwema of Zanzibar
Nanak Asma'u bint Usman Fan Fodio
Princess Hangbe
Empress Eleni
And we never get to hear any such stories when these twats pull their own "history facts" out of their arse. If there's so much real material, then what's with the BS and lies?
@@admirekashiri9879 Wdym...Thats like having to actually work for our money. Better to just do this and call everyone a racist instead!
My wife started to watch this show the other night while I was cooking dinner. About five minutes in I heard a speaker say, “Despite what they told you in school, Cleopatra was Black!” and I just started laughing hysterically.
And thank you Drinker, after I finished laughing I said, “Oh yes, I definitely smell shite!”
It's even funnier when you discover that this claim was made by a random grandma
2 words: CANCEL NETFLIX
My gran gran had some good stories as well.
Dam why did your wife want to watch this trash.
@@strange-universe Don't forget the actual descriptions of Jesus as a caucasian or the actual descriptions of people like David and Joseph in the Bible as redheads.
I hate the double standard. One group can culturally appropriate everyone else and then gatekeep their own. 😬
It's Ironic how Hollywood is airbrushing historical figures to make them black while until recently they had been white washing almost everything Asian character in films and tv shows White. Avatar the Last Airbender where all the main characters were Asian but cast as white people. Ghost in a Shell where Major Motoko Kusanagi is a Japanese police Major recast by white actress, Scarlett Johansson.
It’s called the great replacement.
Sie werden uns nicht ersetzen. Blut und boden
Apparently, calling out historical inaccuracies is racist now? When everything is “racist”, nothing is. Sadly, all the power behind the word is quickly losing its meaning due to so much crying wolf.
@@JustDatBoi by labeling all white men racist, they’ve inadvertently created more of them, like me. Technically,
I’m “prejudice,” but because they would call that raysism’ I claim the label without care.
It still blows my mind that they actually put “my grandma said” in a self proclaimed documentary.
This all what it came down in the end, documentary needs to be backed up with real facts, you may want to "spice" the story here and there, but makes all the "majority" and public knowledge right.
If they changed some obscure things like maybe "Cleo have bad habits like biting her nails" maybe most people wouldn't know wheter it's true or not.
But they changed her race which is common, and Even if they think Cleo was "pure" Egyptian, it's not like all of them have Black African skin.
At this point just make new "fantasy" story instead.
"how do you know this?"
"it was revealed to me in a dream"
@@alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas "God spoke to me, he said Cleopatra was non-binary"
That grandma git dementia. Ok lady, it's time for your pills
Whilst its not perfect it tells an important story of an African Queen, how that people with darker skin (non-white) were once some of the most powerful people in the world and how it was from Africa that Europe got its power and wealth.
Netflix: “Cleopatra was Black…”.
Egypt: “No she wasn’t…”.
Netflix: “Why do you care about race so much Egypt?”.
The statement Netflix, "Cleopatra was Black," and the response from Egypt, "No, she wasn't," indicate a difference in perspectives and ideologies regarding Cleopatra's racial background. Let's expand on this topic.
The assertion that "Cleopatra was Black" refers to the belief that Cleopatra, the famous queen of ancient Egypt, had African ancestry and should be considered a person of African descent. This viewpoint is often supported by proponents who argue that Cleopatra hailed from a region with a diverse population, including Greek, Egyptian, and African people, and that her family, the Ptolemies, had a history of intermarriage with Africans.
Advocates of this perspective may emphasize Cleopatra's interactions with African rulers and her connections to Egypt's southern regions, which had closer cultural and ethnic ties to Sub-Saharan Africa. They might also point to ancient artistic representations of Cleopatra that feature her with features associated with African heritage, such as a broad nose or dark complexion.
On the other hand, the response from Egypt, stating, "No, she wasn't," reflects an opposing viewpoint. This perspective holds that Cleopatra, as a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, was primarily of Greek descent and should be considered ethnically Greek or Caucasian. It argues that while Egypt had contact and trade with various regions, including Africa, Cleopatra herself did not have a significant African heritage.
Proponents of this viewpoint may focus on the historical context of the Ptolemaic dynasty, which originated from Macedonian Greece and ruled over Egypt for several centuries. They might also highlight Cleopatra's lineage, tracing her ancestry back to Ptolemy I Soter, a Greek general under Alexander the Great.
It's important to note that the debate surrounding Cleopatra's ethnicity and racial background is not a recent phenomenon. Historians and scholars have engaged in discussions on this topic for many years, considering various primary sources, archaeological evidence, and cultural contexts.
Ultimately, the question of Cleopatra's racial identity remains complex and multifaceted. The lack of definitive historical evidence regarding her physical appearance and the diverse influences within ancient Egypt make it challenging to reach a consensus. The contrasting ideologies surrounding Cleopatra's race reflect the ongoing discourse in historical and cultural studies, where interpretations and perspectives can differ based on individual perspectives, biases, and available evidence.
@@2012nightwatcher How long did it take you to type that nothingburger?
Netflix: "When you care about race so much in favor of black it's woke, but when you care about race so much in anything else including truth and historical facts: it's racist. 😂"
@@2012nightwatcherchatgpt?
@@2012nightwatcher dunning kruger detected
This documentary had a strong relationship with cutting edge scientific methods of "I feel like" and "my grandma said"
It's the leftist kind of science. Very objective 😆
maybe put documentary between quotes " ?
Yes and it's a very sad thing that our (at least Western) mankind just looks like going down that slope to the end of what exactly : magical thought at every corner of life ?
“My uneducated grandmother who didn’t finish high school and was a maid to a White family which made her racist against White people said Cleopatra was black so it must be true!”
"My uncle works at Nintendo."
Hell, as a Greek I say we should have joined in with the lawsuit
You mean Greek Macedonians at the time weren’t black?!! I never knew 😱
In all seriousness. When I heard about a lawsuit I thought it was Greece at first lol
@@lobehold2263 in a hilariously bad attempt at being diverse they managed to offend an entire african country... that's kind of the opposite of what they were trying to do
@@siegebreaker4120 no kidding, they dropped the ball big time. Especially because the Ptolemys practiced inbreeding a lot. That or they married into other diadochi families. So there blood didn’t dilute much from their origin
Don't forget about (North) Macedonia, they have a skin in this game as well
@@user-cr3ti1vj6f Never ask a Greek man his opinion on if Monkeydonians have a stake in Greek history.
They made a show more hated than Velma that also managed to piss off an entire country and unite large sections of the internet against them.
I don't know what to say.
Two countries. Both Egyptians and Greeks are mad lol
What to say? "Velma was obviously made by amateurs!"
Idk, it takes true masters to unite so many together. Like its impressive, for all the wrong reasons but impressive nonetheless
Well... they are actually accomplishing something? hooray :)
LOL
These ‘creators’ are so indoctrinated by their whole worldview that they, I think, really believe that any insistence on historical fact is ‘systemic racism’. These people are racist. They only see race. Not substance. Not truth. Not historical accuracy. Just racism. Everything is racism. And it all points to their own intrinsic value as higher and better than all others because of their supposed victimized status. Nevermind they’re adulterating elites who live in a bubble of class and wealth. Everyone has to affirm their ‘blackness’. It’s all so off-putting and would be laughable if it wasn’t straight up dystopian. Anyway. That’s all I’ve got for today.
I remember my grandmother saying to me “I don’t care what they tell you in school, pee comes from the balls.”
My Grandma told me "I don't care what they tell you at school, but they did definitely land on the moon".
That made me laugh so much, hahaha. 😂
@@philholdsworth8280 if your school denies the moon landing I wouldn't trust anything they teach too
@@philholdsworth8280 still hard to believe people still believe that 👀.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gotta love Grandma.💪👍🥃
"I remember my grandmother telling me 'I don't care what they tell you in school - *THE MOON IS MADE OF CHEESE* '" This is about the level these clowns operate on.
Hoo boy. If we’re gonna open that whole “my grandma/grandpa told me _________________” can of worms, as a basis for ultimate truth, it could get interesting.
Cheese or not, the moon is flat...
It is the same old argument, is it the small medulla oblongotta or too many teeth not enough toothbrush?
And sadly this is the same logic lots of people apply towards science. Who cares that there's overwhelming scientific evidence and experience about the importance of vaccines, the shape of the planet or the origin of mankind, if it doesn't meet their mental image of reality it's automatically thrown out the window
Maybe it was Cleopatra Jones?
I remember my grandmother telling me " I don't care what they told you in school, George Washington was actually a black lesbian single woman named Georgina."
Assuming they knew the definition of woman
My grandmother told me I'd go blind if I kept doing that...
You probably meant to say "birthing person"
Imagine offending an entire nation and their culture and having the nerve to get pissed off about it...
attempting to erase a cultural identity and then calling others racist for finding fault with it is a hell of a venture
Tbf the people living in modern Egypt don't have anything to do with that culture.
Would be the same as saying that latin Americans are the heirs of Aztec culture
How isn't cultural misrepresentation?
@@Ind3xPlus so you basically said that people today have nothing to do with slavery, yet black people want compensation from current year white people. Fucking dope XD
Actually, the director claimed she was fine with that. The audacity. Lol
Jada’s definition of history is right up there with her definition of marriage.
Spot on!! Wish I could like this comment more than once
@@DeReAntiqua he should be more worried about what’s going in her mouth
Brilliant
This is top-tier savagery and I love it!
Yeah like how she calls cheating “entanglements” 😂
Imagine trying to tell a whole nation that their heritage is wrong and then criticising them when they rightly call you out for it. These show runners honestly never cease to amaze me.
Dissing a whole nation is the next level of stupidity
Wow... Netflix has always been greedy, immoral liars. However, I was truly surprised when they screwed-up so badly that they offend an actual entire country! How much worse can Netflix ruin their own brand?
Bunch of arse-end gollywogs. Just like the jerkwaters that cockedup the story of Galadriel. I suffered through three episodes of that mess, and just about threw my sledgehammer through me telly.
Unbelievable, and you can also clearly see that they're not even basing their controversial statement on any credible ground at all, their only comeback is "well, Egipt is in Africa right? So egiptians ARE africans, therefore black!".
As if every single group of people is Africa looks like another, for a team that claims to fight racism, I really wouldn't have expected them to go "ah yes they're all the same, they're africans so they are black and speak with a thick accent".
Looks to me like they have never even spoke with an actual Egiptian, otherwise they'd know how they look like.
That’s how I felt as an Englishman when they blackwashed Anne Boleyn, the fact that they knew she was white but still thought it would be a good idea to make her black anyway
I am an Italian engineer and I am quite offended by the fact that they portraied ancient romans as barbarians. Wtf. They wrote half of my university books
and their architecture wasn't matched for centuries afterwards.
Forgive me but I must paraphrase one of my favorite movies, the life of Brian.
“What did the Romans ever give us “
“ aqueducts, law, sanitation, libraries”.
“Well, other than that, what did they give us?
@@bollard918 China:hold my rice wine...
"I don't care what they tell you in school".
Kind of sums up the whole problem right there.
Best comment 🤣
The same libwits will say "follow the science"
Yeah, my gran drank, too
Nailed it.
Who don't have schools anymore, we have indoctrination.
Saying Cleopatra is black is like calling Jada Pinkett Smith a loving wife
Oh, Jada loves a bit too much
The amount of evidence that Cleopatra is black is the same as the amount of hair in Jada's head
She's getting more excited this time of year; soon August will come.
KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUT YOUR EFFING MOUTH!
Or that her husband can take a joke
I'm Egyptian and I am so glad the entire internet gave those clowns the reality check they desperately needed.
EDIT: Just wanna add something for the clowns who claim us modern Egyptians are occupiers that have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians.
Modern Egyptians are only 17% Arab according to their DNA, with the rest of modern Egyptians' genetic makeup being 68% North African, 4% Jewish, 3% East African, 3% from Asia Minor and another 3% South European. Based on DNA sequencing of Ancient Egyptian mummies.
Source: National Geographic Genographic Project
Another thing to know is we do have a black minority called the Nubians residing in southern Egypt. Egyptians have a huge variety of skin colors. We're not exclusively white or black.
They managed to unite the Egyptians into defending the friggin' Ptolemies. The Ptolemies! The quintessential foreign dynasty occupying and exploiting one of the most important Empires of our civilization down the decadence drain until it became a mere Roman Imperial Province. That's some incredible accomplishment from Netflix.
@@nm7358 they're not defending the potlemies tho it's more of defending their ancient history as a whole
@@nm7358 Unlike the Arab Muslims occupying Egypt to this day?
I would be ok if they claim mao, polpot, hitlers as black tho 😂😂 they can change that hisotry
The reality check went over their head trust me
What really pisses me off is that they could just have made a documentary about Queen Nzinga, an utterly fascinating and real historical figure. Instead, we get this piece of self-insert fanfiction masquerading as a documentary.
Yeah, but they should've used extreme falsification with Nzinga too. I mean, yes, she was fascinating, and black, but at the same time, her wealth, and the prosperity of her country was based largely on slave trade. So they couldn't actually show Nzinga without admitting, that slave trading wasn't exactly like their core narrative of "evil white men capturing blacks and taking them away from their home". It's easier to lie Cleopatra's skin was black than explaining how Nzinga was so powerful without admitting her being the largest slaver of the region.
@@sgtGiggsy I don't know why that's the case for the west here in Africa I'm not ashamed of saying what clans did the slave trade. They are long dead anyway and sugarcoating history to make black leaders look cool is just silly.
Plus ancient Egypt too did slavery so Cleopatra doesn't get a pass in the slavery part
@@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p But cleopatra didn't participate in the transatlantic slave trade (probably because she died almost twothousand years before that started) and that of course is the only instance of slavery that matters...
to US afrocentrists.
Or how about Hatschepsut. She was even an egyptian queen and lived over a thousand years earlier than cleopatra. And while she wasn't sub-sahara african black (because guess what, egypt is not in sub-saharan africa), she at least wasn't greek. And as a bonus for the fashionable patriarchy smasher, after her death significant efforts were undertaken (presumably by her son thutmosis III though that has come under scrutiny lately) to erase her name from history. However, we still know a lot about her and her reign is considered one of the golden ages of ancient egypt.
@@tranquilthoughts7233
I thought he was her nephew. Im recalling history from middle school of course so maybe im wrong.
It gets better. The actress who played Cleopatra said that Egyptians are racist and don't know their own history if they don't believe ancient Egyptians were black. I've also seen defenders of the show say the same thing and I'll bet you anything those people aren't Egyptian.
Can you imagine being an Egyptian and having someone from another race claim they know your own history better than you do?
Egotistical doesn't even BEGIN to describe it!
Just wait till they claim ancient mesopotamia was black lmao
Actresses should not go off script. They're undereducated and overpaid.
Imagine telling "you don't know your history" to one of the countries that SHAPED history
I might as well start telling Japanese people i know their history better than they do.
Oh yeah Nobunaga was actually black, my mom said so!
@@norwegianboyee fun fact, you can *actually* make a historically accurate story of a black samurai. His name was Yasuke
This is a win for logic and education. Imagine that we're living in a world where Jada Smith, who barely knows the location of the US, let alone Egypt, is trying to question the arguments of the Egyptian experts, including the Egyptian guy who literally led the search for the tomb of Cleopatra. And the fact that the whole cast of this "documentary" didn't include a single Egyptian historian is unbleavble. That's like a Chinese movie company making a documentary about George Washington and all the experts in the documentary being Chinese.
Jada had just enough savvy to realize that hiring real Egyptians would have killed her show before it began.
That would also be like India trying to portray Mikiel Gorbachav as an Indian guy
"George Washington was actually a communist"
and all these "experts" are marxist professors, so your analogy would be correct.
She's an actress trying to act like a big brain. Kind of like most activists come to think of it.
She should stick to mediocre acting and cucking her husband.
The fact that we got Cleopatra, Velma, and She-Hulk all within less than a year is absolutely incredible
And Black Ariel?
@@Yoonpsoo Changing her appearance is not even nearly the worst thing that movie has done.
@@sofija642 for me it was the worst thing and im black. Black Ariel is NOT ariel to me.
Cleopatra was also speculated to be one of George RR Martin's inspirations behind Daenerys Targaryen.
@@Yoonpsoo black Ariel not that bad, but what they did with the rest of the characters? Jail time
I love the fact that compared to this "documentary" the Asterix and Obelix Mission Cleopatra is more accurate, even to the point where Cleopatra says "I will defend my people" and Caesar reply with "What do you mean your people? You are Greek, arent you?" :D :D :D
Asterix and obelix's representation of gladiators is better than 90% of all other media.
We live in an era where the biggest media corporations keep breaking records of the most awful stuff produceable
And it is weird. They seem to be actively trying to ruin themselves. "Hey let's make an entertaining, historically accurate TV show" "nah"
Well said!
It sounds like the razzie awards and razzie oscars needs their own show, that’ll be amazing
That's cause Netflix has money .
@@bewmdogg It isn't about the money, it is about indoctrination. They will always be funded by the people whose agenda they push.
Jada Pinket Smith, fighting racism with more racism. Fantastic.
how's it racist if shes half white half black? Do we ignore the half white side just because she has colour to her skin? Her mum must be disgusted by all the undercover racists
Exactly what most of them do, people getting tired of the black washing
@@Hesienberg2020 Can you explain how someone half white and half black is black?
@@KK-bc8gt are you referring to Adele James? Because pretty much black bro and everyone refers her as black so wym?
@@KK-bc8gt like are you saying she’s white?😂
"Why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?"
So close. SO CLOSE to self-awareness. Just ask yourself that question, but ask why YOU, Jada, need her to be black when she wasn't?
There's a definitive reason ironically, she was literally a european ruling an african nation. They just white washed Greco Roman history, we probably should be thanking them. It's so ironic that a great example of europeans literally enslaving africans get's turned on its head.
The part that gets me, tbh, is how the showrunner lady says something to the effect of "We don't know that she was black for sure, but we for sure know she wasn't white like Elizabeth Taylor"
It's just... the logic literally doesn't work. The only way to know for sure she wasn't white is if you for sure know what she is. If you don't for sure know she was black, how can you for sure know that she wasn't white? Like... you get what I mean, right?
That's an excellent question. Nefertiti is the one associated with the Black power movement and Black Feminism. Cleopatra was seen as too white.
@@deleteman900 We don' t know what Cleopatra looks like thanks to Cleopatra. She would change her appearance based on her circumstance. She actually dressed like a Roman Matron when she was in Rome. She looks more "Greek" in Sculptures and coins because she probably ordered the artist to do so.
The weird undertones of the whole black civilization thing sounds eerily similar to the Ayran myths of the Nazis. Afrocentrism have created this mythology where all the ancient was black including Greece stretching all the way to Japan as though there were some kind of homogeneous connection to it all and something to be proud of while indignant it was stolen and hidden from them - again similar to the Ayran myths. Funny thing is this black identity means little in Africa North or sub-saharan. It's primarily an American thing
as an asian I honestly don't understand America's need to feel represented and inability to relate to a character if they're a different race
Ask the Egyptians. 😂😂😂 . As a south east Asian, it pokes my eyes to see Asians acting as the white British general and his white wife by putting on makeup in history movies. Eye sore.
@@kapawtaw hah. also like, will the world be offended if a highschool full of asians decide to put on a play of hamilton and nobody's black or white? what if a school in africa decide to put on a play of Mulan? They're actors. People need to get a grip.
It's not America; it's the race-baiting shock jocks in media who think offensive lies will garner enough attention to turn a profit, regardless of the division their mindset sews.
I'm a white Australian and seeing Cleopatra has inspired me to make a documentary on Malcom X starring Chris Pratt
All I remember from that Malcolm X movie is Denzel washington getting shot about 10000 in his death scene. As a kid I was shocked by how many bullets he took like it was a bb gun.
Nah, need a documentary about Adolf Hitler starring Samuel L Jackson
@@nont18411 🤣🤣🤣, god damn it, its way too funny imagining Jackson with the hitler stash and speaking in german
Malcolm x directed by and starring Mel Gibson
@@rudesword2852 once again, brilliant casting!
I’m surprised that she didn’t make Cleopatra have an open marriage just like she did
And bald
An "entanglement"
The Drinker lies!
Clearly there was a black Queen Cleopatra!
Cleopatra Jones ruler of Harlem!
@@scottslotterbeck3796that would get Jada mad
@@zdvxr And maybe make Will slap someone😂😊
The damage done to Western societies by the phrases "You can be anything you want to be" and "my own truth" is immeasurable.
Agreed. "My truth" is usually just "my opinion" or maybe "my experiences." It certainly isn't "the truth."
Don't you people constantly rewrite and lie in history? Rhetorical question by the way I understand that needs to be specified.
The most evil thing these people are doing is trying to rewrite reality through the news and pop culture. They want everything to bend to their ideas and it's the biggest assault on truth possible. I refuse to give a cent to any of those woke corporations I hope they all crash and burn.
@@Kai...999, people who try to shape history to fit their ideology often lie, whether they realize it or not. The primary agenda in pursuing history should be to discover truth, not shape it. Ideology blinds.
@@Kai...999no, I've never re written history. Never even wrote about anything historic.
Netflix is going to lose big time on this lawsuit. If they try to fight it, they'll spend millions on lawyers and the court will still rule on behalf of the Egyptian litigants. If they try to settle, that move will be construed as an admission of guilt. I hope Jada was named as a defendant in the lawsuit. She's the one who truly needs to be held accountable.
Cleopatra was Irish! Her name was actually Clea O’Patra. Why not? My grandma told me!
Genius
This is too good!! 🤣🤣🤣
Nope. She was Russian. And her name was Cleya Patrovna.
No, she was French. Her real name was Clé au Pâtre. My grandma told me so.
Nah, she was actually a guy named Claus O'Peter. It was revealed to me in a dream
I love how the producers didn’t even realize Cleopatra wasn’t black, she was a Ptolemy, who were greek, she wasn’t an African she was a Greek. They would have known this if they had bothered to do 15 minutes of research
but Gramma said...
I don't think they were really that interested in historical accuracy. This movie is essentially 'We Wuz Kangs The Movie 2: We Wuz Kwangs'
Grandma said don't believe what they say ,she was black
B-but we wuz quangs n shit..
hello? THEY KNOW. Everybody with half a brain knows Cleopatra was white (Greek). They purposely ignored it because they are trying to change history, wanting to make it less white.
My grandmother always used to tell me, "No matter what Netflix shows you.... not all African queens are black".
It was a weird thing to say considering Netflix didn't even exist back then, but hey. I can rewrite history too
Reimagine*
Maybe she was during the time of blockbuster
This black Cleopatra is pure racism in the name of anti-racism. American's stereotypical depiction of other people's race and culture has to stop.
Cleopatra is black because that woman's grandmother was an idiot. That is the actual goddamn reasoning behind the racebait.
My grandmother always used to tell me that no matter what they teach me in school, owning slaves is a good thing.
Let’s be honest all the “research “ they did was say “cleopatra was in Egypt , Egypt is in Africa , ergo cleopatra was black “
My grandmother told me “I don’t care what they tell you in school… Winston Churchill was a transgender Sudanese man”
@@RylieBread No historical figure dead or alive can escape the wrath of Jada Pinkett Smith!
Don't you mean Sugondese?
Remember family guy Meg and Chris replaced by sudanese.
Sabilulungan was his favorite song
Saying Cleopatra is black because she was born on the Continent of Africa is like saying that General George Patton is an Apache because he was born in North America.
Its like saying Spanish people and Russians are the same because they are European
Yeah, I mean, did they get their education from Mean Girls or smt?
The Afrikaners are white but they were born in South Africa ha ha ha
or telling elon musk he is black because he is from south african , even if he was real and show billion of us that he is white
I interpreted "Apache" as the Apache Helicopter, and it made this comment even funnier 😂
I now demand a movie about Shaka Zulu to be made and I want him 'reimagined' as a ginger irishman.
My grandma told me, "No matter what they teach you at school, Shaka Zulu was a pasty ginger."
🤣
Race swapping only goes from light to dark, so don't get your hopes up.
😂😂😂
Hmm, that would explain his expansionist tendencies...
"I'd like now to nominate Domhnall Gleeson for the role of Shaka Zulu."
Or something along those lines, innit?
My grandmother, a lovely women of 5’3” with an amazing voice and clear blue eyes told me that she was closely related to Prince Phillip. She wasn’t, she was just a bit confused. Bless her 🥰
Imagine casting an Asian actor for princess Anastasia because Russia is mostly located in Asia.
My wife is European Russian and I tell her she's Asian because of that very fact. For some reason she gets offended by that😆
Imagine allowing the ones who's been exiled from over 100 countries embed themselves in governments throughout the entire world to destroy Jesus Christ creation.
We are the Scythians! We are the slit-eyed Asians! -
Although Blok was also wrong. 😊
@@fairfortune67 key word European Russian you are literally calling her something she isnt most of russias population is in Europe and the rest was conquered during the 16th and 17th century
It's not exactly that bad of an argument since technically speaking, Russians are indeed "Asians" to an extent.
And "Asian" is a very broad term since it means anyone from Asia.
What you need to say is either "EAST ASIAN" or anyone from the 6 major chink eyed-eyed i.e. China, Taiwan, North & South Korea, Japan and Mongolia.
And why settle for an "Asian actor".
Why not cast Kim Jong Un as Anastasia?
It's more inclusive and ticks the best boxes especially if Kim identifies as a lesbian attack helicopter.
And anyone who's against it is a racist, misogynist and a bigot.
FINALLY, an actual, REAL example of *cultural appropriation* that I have heard so much about! And it gets the appropriate amount of hate!
I do wonder just how close this one has brought Netflix to actually being dragged into a court somewhere in the world on hate crime charges
It's weird because there are Nubian and Kushite Pharos of Egypt that they could have told the story about in actual Egyptian history
But NOOOOOOOOOO they won't even tell their own story of Africa and it's people they need to tell the story of already existing and established stories with now a darker complexion because "muh feelings"
Good point. A very fitting example. Now if it had done well, without blatant criticism, then it would also have been a fine example of hypocrisy.
As a balcanic guy I can agree with making Cleopatra back because pf how racist we are twards greeks being black.
The radical left is used to getting away with it, but a lot of people are getting tired of their never ending lies.
Cleopatra is literally a Greek woman, these guys literally are the definiton of "Trust me Bro"
@AliciaJade.Booo wheres the potato recipie?
“We have Cleopatra at home”
Didn't realize documentaries could be pure fiction now. All while claiming to still be true.
Well yes she was with Macedonian ancestors and Egyptian, both
We Wuz Kangz 'n Sheeeeit
"No matter what they tell you in school" is a dangerous, slippery slope.
No matter what biology tells you, a man can get pregnant and identify as 'them' ... just imagine it and it's true
if your gran opens a sentence with "don't pay attention in school Cleopatra is black" you know shes too far gone and probably senile
Meemaw type to lay off the cat food.
Grammy got dat dementia😅
And yet at the same time, kids are being taught that boys can be girls just because they feel like it in schools now.
It's literally just the meme "Cleopatra was black." "Ok grandma let's get you to bed"
And racist
“I have asked Egyptians to see themselves as Africans” is a really funny way of saying “I’m trying to tell people how they should view themselves so it aligns with my worldview”
The most insane angle here is the idea that a western filmmaker of Iranian heritage believes that casting a mixed-race British woman in the role of a Greek-Egyptian queen is a pathway to teaching modern Egyptian people about their own identity, and that she is somehow responsible for teaching this lesson while ignoring the protests of actual Egyptian scholars. The absolute narcissism and entitlement in that statement is shocking.
And she clearly thinks all Africans are black! She wants them to see them selves as black, but she says African because she thinks they are the same thing.
Modern Egyptians are Arab oriented😂lmao
Fun Fact: South Africans, many of whom are white, are African. Elon Musk is African. Oh, it's true.
So people from Greece are also Africans now I guess. Jezus that woman is clueless.
I feel personally attacked that cleopatra wasn't properly portrayed as an Vietnamese woman as she clearly was
Outrage, she was 1/4 Thai.
Nope. She's a historical person people have heard about so she *must* have been a white man.
All hail trans Cleopatra 🤢
Its true. My grandma said so.
Cope she was a latina, read more history books you bigotred nerds 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I showed this to my sister and she was like, "wasn't Cleopatra beautiful?"
@@wheatyes2104 did you hear it from your grandma as well?
@@peeyushverma2284 nah, I think it was from "extra history" but I could be wrong. I'll delete the comment if I am wrong
@@wheatyes2104 i wrote that reply in zest. Anyways, extra history came to that conclusion after looking at her face in the coins..but the faces (of her and the husband) in those coins were butt ugly tbh. The faces were probably romanized to cater public, as they usually are..hence, the prominent nose and chin, along with other characteristics associated with it. The truth is, we don't actually know how she would look like as we don't have her skeleton to look at. Most paintings and statues are artist's imagination than the real deal.
@@peeyushverma2284 That's fair. I guess the same with Queen Elizabeth 1, since we don't know if she was romantized either. It's nice to talk to a rational person
Damn, your sister is a savage.
That moment when you realize that Yu-Gi-Oh was more respectful to Egypt than this “documentary”
Cleopatra plays red eyed black american deck.
Oh, no I’ve played the Blue Eyes White Privilege Dragon. ;D
Lol nice one
HAHAHA awesome comment!
Haha this wins the internet
Not So Fun Fact:
One of the directors behind the Cleopatra documentary, claimed that she was psychic and that Cleopatra’s dead spirit had visited her in a dream.
What makes this funnier is that Shelley Haley, the old lady who cited her grandmother, made that claim.
uuuh, that sounds like... a dark dream
To hunt her house until they retract this shit, i supose
You know, this reminds me of a tidbit about the production of the 1981-Movie "Inchon" I came across on wikipedia:
_" In 1978, psychic Jeanne Dixon was consulted to communicate with the spirit of General MacArthur, and Dixon said that MacArthur's spirit endorsed the production of the film."_
You might know this, but "Inchon" was a notorious disaster at the box office.
@@kuribayashi84 “Inchon” sounds like a completely retarded movie.
I am an archaeologist and I can say that the fictional movie from half a century ago with Elizabeth Taylor was much, and I mean MUCH more historically accurate than this "documentary". I dont mean just the casting.
Cleopatra VII, Marcus Antonius, Julius Caesar were portrayed in the 1963 movie closely to how historical sources described their characters.
The costumes were sometimes very decadent (especially Taylors), yet still clearly inspired by Egyptian, Roman and Greek fashion and some were actual copies (we can see Roman toga praetexta, toga virilis, Greek Macedonian cuirass etc).
The settings were impressively well done (part of the movie was set in original locations in Egypt and Rome). And there was attention to details, you can see the ancient customs like libation, sacrifice, discussion of battle strategies or even Caesars illness depicted very well.
We can not be certain how ancient Greek, Roman or Egyptian music sounded, but it certainly was more appropriately depicted in the old movie than in this documentary, where we see Cleopatra swing her swords to sound of African tribal drums... come on now.
So it is kind of ironic that they are dissing this half century old movie for historical inaccuracy when it was actually created with a lot more respect and dare I say knowledge about this fascinating historical figure and time period.
I love it when these activists try to color history with their modern biases (no pun intended). The modern understanding of "white" did not exist back then in the way we understand it today, especially in the Mediterranean, which was essentially one big melting pot. Cleopatra was probably swarthy, like many women in the Mediterranean, but she was DEFINITELY not a "melanated sister."
@@darthdaddy3071 Correct. Back then, all of the "Whites" were very much killing each other off for being Etruscan, Greek, Thracian or whatever else. All "White" by today's definition but obviously they didn't give a damn.
Blacks don't have any history to be proud of. If they did. They wouldn't have too culturally appropriate other people's history.
Honestly you try hard to portray yourself as this intelligent man. But your just a guy on the couch drunk most of the time typing on youtube.
@@darthdaddy3071 so who are the giant statues of black people . we know that cleopatra was after Egypt was abandon so she probally wasent but those Pharoahs that look like NBA players..who are they
Honestly the main issue was the the were saying that it was a documentary. Like Hell no it’s not! A documentary is meant to share the facts not a fantasy created by a lady who cheated on her husband.
As a Greek-Egyptian man, I went my entire life not knowing I was black. I thank the Queen Cleopatra show for revealing to me my true black heritage ❤
Jada really handing out N cards here
You are not black! You are African American!
Well, go and loot yourself some Nikes and a big screen TV. It's your culture.
@@FlaviusConstantinus306 is coptic even a culture ? i was sure it was a religion :D
Do you feel oppressed now?
I still can't believe Netflix is actively trying to tell Egypt their wrong, I feel they would know their own historical figures better than an American Based Streaming Service
The funniest thing is modern Egyptians are Arabs, so they don't even have any stake in the Greek dynasties or even the original ancient Egyptians. The modern Egyptians complaining is purely from historical inaccuracy, not even a you vs me thing.
Careful now, Jada don't like backtalk.
@@Grasslander
Actually, as I understand it, Egyptians are not Arabs, they are ethnic Egyptians, even though they do speak Arabic.
@@NFS0038 you do realize we have mummies and modern egyptians so we can do DNA tests right?
I cant believe theynotmake movie about black Moses or Noah
“People weren’t mad when ‘The Mummy’ depicted mummies inaccurately” is perhaps the funniest argument I’ve seen for this show
They legit thought a Universal Monster Movie reboot was the same as a Docudrama series 💀
The Mummy never said it's a documentary. Plus, egyptian actually loved how they portrayed 1920s Cairo and it looks quite accurate
A fictional movie is not the same as a documentary.
And the irony is that Arnold Vosloo, albeit being South African, I felt had a very convincing Egyptian look to him.
This is just a disgrace.
Yeah they obviously didn’t want people to believe that mummies can come back from the dead and absorb the souls of people or that scarabs can eat people from the inside out lmao.
A friend of mine was an editor of an Egyptology magazine. He was being escorted to a newly found tomb on the Giza plateau when they went past a a famous science/archeology magazine's documentary team. My friend heard the producer of the show shout at some of the staff. "We don't have to worry if its true or not, our viewers are idiots and they will never know." So it is nothing new.
I remember my granddad telling me, "I don't care what they tell you in school, Genghis Khan was John Wayne."
The Caucasus mountains are in Asia. So in fact Genghis Kahn was white.
now I know why I have never heard of or seen this genhis kahn movie, it must be hilarious. It might be worth it to watch just to laugh at the duke playing kahn. Back then, they would portray an obviously jewish guy from new york as a native american, just put some makeup on him, it will be fine
@@italianknight78 Genghis came from Mongolia, idiot. He wasn't a Hun like Atilla.
Happy thanksgiving pilgrims
My grandma told me, "Attila the Hun, Caligula, Ivan the terrible, and Vlad the Impaler were all black women. All of them were Jada Pinkett Smith's self inserts."
Queen Cleopatra is as faithful to history as Jada is to Will.
rates at the 'purged with holy fire' level of burn :)
Hail davidpaz
Hail davidpaz
BURRRRRNNNN!!!
Someone did ur comment earlier, and written better.
This is on par with "did iiiiii doooo that" 5 years after family matters
Heyy!! Will Smith is a cuckold by choice...accept the lifestyle people.😅
the idea about Africans Americans telling me about my own history that they obviously have nothing to do with never ceases to amaze me
That's just what americans do in general. They tell the whole world what is right and what is wrong.
@@delinquentis9971 Yep, this a continuation of the same echo chamber that ride America quasi-monopoly on global cinema and popular arts to push their world views into others. This Cleopatra and Lizzie's one where made in the same echo chamber, just with different people abusing the same "reach" for similar core purposes.
Dont worry buddy, we respect your culture that has been inherited by your ancestors.
Don't listen to an uncultured country, even they ancestor was from cross atlantic.
@@williamsmith9948 I'm from northern Cali. The south is an absolute fuckfest. You know the place is messed up when there's so much smog you can't even see the sky on a clear day.
Here is the thing and you may disagree because I'm also American but I don't agree with the sentiment that it's just your "own history that they obviously have nothing to do with." I personally think it's more complicated then that.
America carries over the western tradition and spirit that tends to start historically with the Greeks our laws and culture are fundamentally rooted in Greco-Roman culture, ethics and morals just like the rest of the west. So without places like Athens and Rome and men like Cicero and Cincinnatus the United States would likely not have the form it has today since it was their history that led to our founders making many of the decisions they did.
So I can't agree that its just YOUR history when its that very history that is responsible for my own.
Now this is just my opinion but the problem is more that Black Americans have been manipulated by certain corrupt institutions into believing that they can't possible identify with non Black individuals. But they want to identify with this history because it is the history of the culture they are a part of, so they do things like this to make it easier for them.
“I don’t care what history says, Cleopatra was black”. Is quite accurate. One of my students actually said the same about Wakanda 🤨
But my friends friend's cousin's grandpa said both Wakanda and MLK Jr were white!
@@jakomioftherose2434 sarcasm?
To produce a show after Velma that is worse than Velma is an accomplishment of epic proportions.
The one thing that tells you enough about this show is the rotten tomatoes score. We are used to low audience scores by now due to movies and shows simply not being good, or being inaccurate lorewise to a franchise.
But the fact that VERY few critics actually watched this and those that does also dislike it tells you alot. Usually they love character changes as long as they are in a ...certain way. But even they knew this is to hot to handle, or: lying about how good this is would be even worse compared to other projects so they either didn't watch it or had enough intelligence to not praise it.
Velma is from HBO, this is from Netflix
@@valentin7693 Correct. I was speaking to the general ambition.
It looked impossible. But they managed to do it. The best "Grab my beer I have seen in a lot of time".
Is like an underdog wining a major League like. Bournemouth, West Ham or Nottingham forest winning 23/24 Premier League.
Velma is horrible but it's kinda funny how hard it tries to be funny. Also the fact that the writers are forcing their political biases in every other line, makes it somewhat entertaining to watch. I definitely wouldn't watch it again though.
As an Egyptian I feel disgusted knowing that these people are rewriting my history to suit their own needs and political 'correctness'. Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek and to say otherwise considering the continuous historical evidence is simply blind and ignorant. They are hiding under the guise of inclusivity to insult and demean my culture, and I'm not standing for it. It hurts to see their 'cleopatra' being the first image to pop up on the Google search of her name.
On the bright side, all i knew about cleopatra was that she was supposedly incredibly beautiful... now i know she wasn't a great leader and a lot about her ancestry and life.
I can feel your pain mate! The west has to (not everyone) force their ideals somewhere else! We even look up to the ancient Egypt as a great civilization despite our own civilization which has craziest hydrological advancements (South Asia). But it seems they can't respond to their social issues with proper solutions. Instead, they distort the culture & history of nations & people which had done nothing wrong to them.
@@hasithagayalambattaya8929 the west is a very strange term to use when referring to hollywood.
@@turbo8628 My bad! I was referring to say Hollywood. But still, Sometimes the "west" term is also valid. At least for the US context that is.
@@hasithagayalambattaya8929 it's ok. I kind of assume that everyone means america anyway.
I am from england... we are hated for plenty of reasons, but hollywood isn't one of them at least 😅
They actually did something even more hilarious. They talked about Njinga, an African queen that "successfully fought off Portugese colonialism" but doesn't mention the 200,000 captive people she sold into slavery to the same country 😂
Because that's inconvenient and doesn't fit the narrative of "only white people did this"
What's your point
Blacks sold slaves to whites
Blacks who didn't comply with slave trade would be attacked by other black tribes supported by whites in forms of soldiers and weapons
Romans conquered killed and took slaves
Slavery is a stain on human history
Black slavery is one of the most disgusting immoral thing a group of people have ever done,
Calling out blacks for the african part of the slave trade, are you trying to absolve white people by making them not look as bad
Laughing at the african queen because she was involved in slavery, and so accurate to 200000 based on what,
Look at the Spanish to the south Americans, loads can be listed when talking about what white people have done
Oh wow that's pretty bad on her part. Sold people off for money... Meanwhile, the Netflix "docs" wash over the facts about these historical figures. Those shows are pure fiction if they don't even try to make it historically accurate.
Still better than starring someone who was almost certainly not black in a series about black queens.
The North African Barbary pirates were capturing and enslaving white people well into the 1800’s. That’s why the US Marine Corps hymn sings of the “shores of Tripoli”.
White people didn’t even do the slavery thing. Not in the way people see as evil. Slaves were prisoners of war so captives couldn’t form a new army or criminals working off their debt to society. Or in Rome, people could sell themselves into carefully protected slavery for a time to pay off debts.
Slavery the way the world thinks of it and in terms of raiding people to enslave them is an African and Arabian thing. There’s also evidence that white people learned slavery from them.
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just choose an actual black queen to examine and document rather than blatantly lie about a well known figure? They would be simultaneously bring previously unknown figures into the spotlight whilst respecting the actual history. It’s almost as if they saw an easy piece of advertising that they could use to push politics…
I think the best depiction of Cleopatra was in the HBO “Rome” series. A smart, cunning, ruthless, desperate woman who played the cards dealt to her until it all caved in on her and Antony. Oh, and the actress looked Greek, which was a great attention to detail.
Very underrrated show. And yes, amazing Cleopatra there.
true, and cleopatra was part of greek royal family in egypt that originated in alexender the great army during conquest of the known world
she was a descendent of prob one of the generals of alexander
Not a movie/TV show, but her portrayal in Assassins Creed Origins was also pretty cool
That was a brilliant series. Cleopatra was great although I think she was much prettier than real life Cleopatra.
Agreed. She was excellent.
I can’t wait for these new historical documentaries!:
- Hitler starring Idris Elba
- Martin Luther King Jr. starring Ryan Gosling
- Melissa McCarthy as Ghandi
- Jackie Chan as Rosa Parks
- Taylor Swift as Harriet Tubman
- Shaq as Queen Elizabeth
- Lizzo as Frida Kahlo
- Rupaul Charles as Joseph Stalin
Okay, I need to ask: how come every time someone makes this, Ryan Gosling is ALWAYS fancasted as MLK? Is there something I am missing? Like, Gosling saying that he would have loved to play him, or perhaps there's a role where he's pretty much MLK or something
@@NIDELLANEUM, the internet made a meme of a promo poster for an MLK doc with Ryan Gosling as MLK. It's been around for ages.
@@MaddDogg316 oh okay, I kinda missed out on that. Felt weird, like "why is ALWAYS him the one chosen as a white MLK?"
@@NIDELLANEUM , lol. NP 🤘.
i would honestly pay to see rosa park portrayed by jakie chan and kicking ass right and left during the civil right movement era
It is impressive they managed to make a show more hated than Velma
And in the same year no less.
As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh
@@rhondae8222 so, these women who are at least partially black aren’t black enough for you to permit them to admit their own heritage? That seems awfully colorist, if not actually racist, to me. Why not just let all those women, both light and dark skinned, play black characters?
And they are all beautiful and talented. I totally agree with you.
It is not about "permit", it is about accuracy of representation. Obviously, we can not expect filmmakers to track the character's ancestry to n'th degree, and find a suitable actress - but at some point, it definitely feels "eh, close enough"
I don’t care what anyone says! Julius Cesar was a Japanese Samurai and I have his katana to prove it, but I’m not gonna show it to you because your internalized racism will make it look like a totally different sword!
5:50 I remember my grandmother saying to me “I don't care what they tell you at school, they did use automatic rifles during the rise of the Roman Empire."
She was also convinced the neighbours dog was plotting against her.
Lovely lady tho. When she wasn't drinking.
Built from tried and true Ancient Texts and technical documents, armalite designed their series of weapons to be built just like the Romans intended
My grandpa once told me the persians were using tiger tanks but the romans were able to hold them oh yea forget he also told me thera are ONLY 30 romans but they are able to defend the maginot line using javelins and pushing the persian back to their homeland, the underground world (persians are actually lizars people living under our ground)
My grandpa told me that Mansa Musa, the (probably) richest man of all time was not black, but descendant of arabic merchants.
Lovely lady tho. When she wasn't drinking. Which was often.
Hey, if you've seen the new Indiana Jones movie then it's entirely plausible that Romans used WW2 era German weaponry.
What's funny is that this is literally cultural appropriation.
It's also racism too.
Exactly.
i honestly believe cultural appropriation is just a ridiculous concept, since different nations and civilization have contact with each other and influence each other. this has NOTHING to do with cultural appropriation, this is just a poor quality history rewriting and i 100% with all egyptians that are mad at the show, since we're talking about well recorded hystorical facts.
But just for sake of the argument, could you please give me your definition of "cultural appropriation"?
@@DRKLRD-kv4cm Isn’t rewriting history for yourself appropriating a culture?
no it's not, cleopatra was a biracial women like this woman, do you even know the time period she was queen, arabs thinking they are real egyptians are like white people thinking they are native americans, it's riduclous
Jada uses the phrase "Entanglement" to describe how she twists the truth to fit her version of history, instead of depicting it how it should be.
Called cheating on her husband an entanglement too. She liked that word, I think she thinks it makes her sound deep and mysterious.
Unless it's quantum entanglement, it's still not the truth
My Grandfather's best friend's friend said that "No matter what anyone say to you, Alexander the Great was a Sri Lankan". Someone make a documentary now.
I've never understood the logic behind the whole, "I'm the same color as a person who achieved something so I get to claim that as if it's an extension of my achievements" mindset lmao
Honestly, it's sort of weird in general, being proud of the past; even if I was a direct descendent of a hero, like, so? I wasn't the one who did whatever he or she did, it's not right for me to get my sense of self-worth based on their accomplishments. I really only care enough to counter when people try to tell me to be ashamed of myself because of the past.
Its the weaklings mindset
Yes!!! Absolutely!
Right. Their whole mantra is "I'm special and unique" but need to see someone physically similar to themselves to feel "represented"
It’s something thats very unique to black americans, you don’t see real africans doing it because they know their indentity. Certain black americans wanna make their history something that is proud and not filled with pain i guess so they make up stuff like this.
Beside everything else, how is Cleopatra an overlooked historical figure? Aren't there like 50 Hollywood movies with or about her?
Watching this video made me realize that I don't actually know many black historical women who were leaders of Nations! Maybe if Netflix could put some effort into its documentaries they wouldn't be so overlooked!
She’s taught in world history. Her and the General in the Roman Civil war were the second faction of two against Octavian.
Gave Romeo and Juliet vibes with their deaths, but they were more kickass. This show could have been great…
They needed at least one story that every one had heard of before to hook people into the series
And they didn't have a problem with her being casted as white all 50x
@@DeadPiixxel Why would they? She was white after all LOL
RIGHT ON! The documentary is more about Jada's political agenda than it is about actual history.
And ALL of these weirdo’s fantasies. This was green lit and worked on by a lot of them. They all really thought this was a good idea.
Her agenda should be, not fucking her children's friends.
Never believe a word from a woman who literally looks like a serpent 🐍
Everything yr told bout history is a lie.
Jada is an awful, awful, awful person.
My uncle's ex-wife's cousin's former roommate's gym coach once said to me, "I don't care what they tell you at school...Napoleon Bonaparte was Chinese."
Egyptians being lectured about their history by people who have never left the states or their cities is probably the most ironic and hilarious thing this show has brought.
Oh they even call egyptians racists now. Oppressed poor US americans with no rights like the smiths.
Yeah, who does Pinkett Smith think she is... 1955's Head of the British Museum?
:P
And then being called racist when they complain about it. It doesn't get much more rediculous.
It can always get worse. Some think ancient rome didn't even exist
Americans in a nutshell
Pinkett Smith being an executive producer says it all.
As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh
@@rhondae8222 Trust me. As a white man, I am sick of seeing black men with white women all the time in every commercial. There's always gonna be a mutt-orch in every commercial. The washing of white history is ridiculous because sincerely blacks do not have that much of history recorded and that's their own failure.
Blah blah shut up nobody wants a black anything 😂
@@rhondae8222 Congratulations on not having anything meaningful in your life. Now get over yourself.
@@rhondae8222why should netflix be promoting one race at all? thats black supremacy
They really thought that "My grandma told me no matter waht they tell you in school..." line was good. Like it was a mic drop sentence. They were so proud of it.
And that's the opposite of what the historian actually said! It's selective editing.
"All right, let's hear what Mama has to say on the subject." - Colonel Sanders
lol
@@bin_made_of_fur As I said elsewhere, you did not provide a complete quote, so I had to find the following. It's all justification for her childhood belief, with a strawman thrown in. Claiming that 'the historian said the opposite' of 'Cleopatra was black' is misleading at best, and a lie at worst.
"But, ultimately, Haley says in the series, “We don’t know her exact racial heritage.”
“She learned the Egyptian language. She practiced the Egyptian religion,” Haley says in the docudrama. “She wants to be remembered as an Egyptian.”
“Ancient Egyptians would have had a variety of different complexions, as we find in other African cultures today,” adds Cleopatra scholar Sally-Ann Ashton, also featured in the series. “Given that Cleopatra represents herself as an Egyptian, it seems very strange that we insist on depicting her as a wholly European.”"
www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/05/12/queen-cleopatra-looks-netflix-controversy/
@@bin_made_of_fur Erratum: the strawman is not Haley's, but Ashton's. Ashton's quote is, however, necessary to give essential context to Haley's usage of 'Egyptian'.
About the true story of the female warriors in "The Woman King".
When they clashed with the French army, it was not the regular French army, it was the French Foreign Legion.
So they had no chance of winning (behind the guns there were dudes with knives and big mustaches waiting for them, smiling xD)
Jada has 2 failing shows and a ruined marriage. Seems like she’s keeping things consistent 😂
And we just know Will is hyping her up all the same 😢
She's the devil in human form
Remember the tragic yet historic story of Leonidas I and his 300 Spartan men?
Yea, truly one of the most famous Korean warriors of all time 🙏
Korean amazonian. Don't leave out the lack of Y chromosomes, misogynist.
They were so brave defending against Christopher Columbus and the White tyranny he brought to South East Asia.
@@MagcargoMan
The pundits are probably afraid they get canceled for talking about french black man Gerard Butler portraying a Jewish King.
@@MagcargoMan I complained they ignored the thousands of greeks who fought and died alongside the Spartans. Well that and portraying Persia as monster the greeks were bigger dicks.
That said 300 never sold itself as a documentary just historical fiction
Lee Oh Nee Dah famous Korean general. Only Koreans might get offended by this shit... Like 100% for sure
ACTUAL QUOTE from the director: "Most of all, we need to realize that Cleopatra’s story is less about her than it is about who we are."
wow, really? no wayyy. x_x
He made a show called Cleopatra but the story will not be about Cleopatra...
Then the director should have done a documentary about himself.
I mean, haven't we all poisoned a sibling to gain a throne at some point?
@@SolidGoldCEO I know I have!
Not a single writer thought to check historical records and see that
She
WAS
GREEK
Saying cleopatra is black is like saying Gandhi was Japanese since he was an Asian
2 words: CANCEL NETFLIX (they are part of matrix)
but my granny told me he was!
This "is like" shit is outta control.
Don't u dare u give this idea to Netflix
@@grizzlo7300 that’s just dumb to whine about .. about as pointless as my comment
Who would have expected that something made by Jada Pickett Smith would be wildly unpopular?
Yea, Will's got a peach there I'll tell ya 🙄
Keep her name out your f'en comments!!
@@dsmyify It was a G.I JANE joke!....
Anyone unfortunate to see any of her movies or her talentless offspring's ever?
It warms my heart when people can unite and hate something together, despite our differences
Damn right.
As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh
sometimes all you need is hate
I blame the apparently common American tendency to see history as somehow being negotiable rather than real, hard facts.
I was talking to a couple of American tourists in York Minster after the fire there some years back, and it was clear that they saw the building as some kind of Disneyland, built just to entertain them. They absolutely did not understand or care that so much history had been destroyed in the fire. To them, the charred timbers on display were just so much junk.
Explaining that those timbers were part of the roof 200 years before Columbus sailed was met with blank stares and I felt like I was talking to children who were determined to remain ignorant. That attitude is what allows sh!te like Cleopatra to be made.
Fun fact, Cleopatra was incredibly well educated and the first in her family to actually speak Egyptian. Everyone in the Ptolemaic dynasty spoke Greek because they were all descendants of a Greek general who served under Alexander the Great.
YES, they were Greek. So, not black. How nobody from Netflix doesn't know history or at least to research a bit?
@@aminamemic2141
Naive of you to think they weren't fully aware of what they were doing.
YOU GUYS ARE JUST MAD CUZ SHE BLACK JUST SAY IT IT DOWSNT MATTER THE SKIN COLOR
@@Kekoa552 when we don’t know properly where she is buried a debate on her skin tone is useless
@@aminamemic2141 they might have some traces of middle eastern Persian and African ancestry with Greek being more prominent
Pissing off an entire country!? I applaud Jada's achievement. I bet Will is laughing his ass off.
He can't laugh with jada's foot in his mouth
@@redberries8039 Her foot's actually up his ass, but in any case, he's not allowed to laugh.
He should slap her
Will Simp
That SIMP deserves everything he's getting
Cleopatra was a calculated manipulator who used her sexuality to manipulate powerful men. I'm not sure why Jada feels such an affinity to her 🤔
*rimshot*
It shouldn't be a surprise that many incel-feminists loves Cleopatra
Edit: let's not forget that she was an usurper
I think that was one aspect about her
But we can learn about power by reading about them.
Cleopatra spoke and read over five languages. Romans assumed she was getting to their generals trough sex, because their own women weren't involved in politics and couldn't even read. But thinking that all these intelligent war leaders just threw their brains into trash after seeing a pretty woman? Does a disservice to those men. Far more likely they were swayed by her logical arguments, and with what her contry could bring to the table if she stayed in charge.
Assuming Cleopatra got her way threw sex appeal, implies that that these logical, well educated war leaders and rulers somehow kept their position in their cutthroat politics, despite being completely led by their dick. That seems unlikely.
@@Sienisota Cleopatra was probably smart enough to know when to use sex and when to use logical arguments. Some Romans would have been drawn in by her beauty and some would be drawn in by her intellect. It was a win-win for Cleopatra, no matter which method she used.
"Ancient Egyptians were black" is just such an _odd_ hill for the historical revisionists to die on.
Wouldn't they be better served by looking into the actual black empires and kingdoms of sub-Saharan Africa?