Knox Hill said we would be blown away by the artists who Ren has turned down collabs with , 'cause he just wasn't feeling the project or message. Ren seems more in love with music than climbing the industry. Labels would dictate and censor his art and that would not be Ren. ❤❤❤
To that point, Ren himself said he'd rather jump on a track with a UA-camr who had 100 followers whose project he loved than be a feature for a famous artist he wasn't feeling.
My thoughts on the hood and rope, is that they are money bags and they can’t see past the money. The rope is the noose of greed that money has a choke hold on people. But just my opinion. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Yes! One of my favorite references in KBD! 🍪 I think it would be AMAZING for them to watch some more Ren and then re-react to KBD, now having had the opportunity to pick up all those little Easter eggs!
I was expecting you to talk about how much walking Ren did in this one, but he got you thinking about other things 😂 You're the first reactors I've seen ask the question about how much is too much. You get to the heart of things. This might be the time to watch Ren's 1 million subscribers video. Congrats to you both! Well deserved.
I love that part 1 is WHY, part 2 is HOW, and part 3 is an example! Brilliance. I think the "blindfolds" are money bags, as we're all blind to the money game.
As someone whose family is wealthy and money is the most important thing to them, and every one of them is unhappy. And they cant understand how I can be so happy working with dogs and living a minimalistic life style. Its more important that i make a difference in the world than to collect money and things
Thank you for what you do to help dogs! 💚🐾 I volunteer daily at my local shelter managing playgroups and working with the tougher dogs. I don't make a penny, but the work is so very rewarding. 💚🐾
This video won the Best European Independent Music Video award at the ECU Film Festival last year. It's a bloody masterpiece. Great art does make you think, doesn't it? Love you guys! Congrats on the 1M views. 🎉🎉🎉
Don’t you guys remember Sick Boi? “Why you so upset, don’t you want to be a rich boy?” “FUCK no! Industry is cut-throat. I’ve been doing bits by myself, swimming back-stroke...”
In Money Game Pt3 Ren stated "Mold will Grow upon the Surface and Consumes til it dies, and Our Fate could be the same without this Story to the Wise" The more I hear from Ren the more I realize his Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! But When Compassion Becomes a Target for Other's Greed, then the Truly Compassionate Must Stand Up and Acknowledge that Injustice and Greed Must be Confronted and Addressed! Even a Thousand Years Ago Rulers Knew "Don't Mess With A Bard!" Your Descendants will Curse You for a Hundred Generations!
The rain at the end is a physical replacement of the line in the other two MGs 'rain, rain rain...' Beautiful to do it..even though it cost them £80 replacing the soggy bow of the violin player that got wet!
I always want to give her props for not flinching and ruining that crucial take. Since he only had one suit and it was a single attempt. She had to have fought every instinct to not wrap her baby in her arms.
I love how thought provoking Ren’s artistry is! Makes us reflect and try to be better human beings… I believe intentional or not he’s started a movement and given so many so much HOPE💫 In agreement with your other subs to check out his “One Million Subscribers” it gives you a glimpse inside of his heart💝
"And I'm not fussed about being rich Either, as long as I can live the way I want Keep your mansion, keep your beamer I don't want them As long as I can live happily And earn a comfortable life for my family and me And be free For life is never ever set in stone That's why I never followed anybody's rules but my own" -Ren "Love Music"
"Hostages" is the wrong term. Apathetic? Ren is suggesting that if "We" as a collective "See" the problem and act on it , then "The system" changes. The bag is part of the "divide and conquer" tactic so prevalent in local AND geopolitics at the moment But IF "we" see the tactic (eyes) The "Establishment" loses its protection (poncho) and "burns" (ref "Number 10 Downing Street" in part 2, he couldn't be much clearer?.... But of course "he's only kidding".... In a *heavily* sarcastic way)
I just want to clarify, a few people have said Sony dropped Ren, this is not true. While making his first album he was so poorly he just physically couldn’t carry on. He approached them and they came to the decision to part ways, Ren has said it was all very amicable and he later contacted his contact at Sony asking if he could use some of the music that was created during that time on his freckled angels album which they allowed. I think almost every label has tried to sign him over the last couple of years and he’s turned them all down. Ren doesn’t care about money or being number 1 he just wants to make music. As he’s said a few times “if his music can be a companion to someone in the dark that’s all the validation he needs” What you see is really what you get with him, he’s not just spouting off lyrics that sound good together, he really does mean what he’s saying. Another amazing reaction from you both. Definitely one of the renegade’s favourite channels 😊
His manager was a different story, he was an a-hole to Ren and Chinchilla. Ren has a song he was just recording on IG yrs back and in one of the lyrics Ren mentioned "The earrings are staying, something about cutting his (Liam) head off. Ren was extremely pissed when he was rapping/speaking. I am going to guess that was his manager back in the day that got a song written for him. 😂
I think he loved being number one and would again actually - he's been working hard for many years and has had / still has a tough road but not at the expense of artistic freedom.😊
The first concerto ever recorded. The only one he completed. Grieg also didn't respond well to classical training and didn't find his voice til he left it. He ALSO was extremely chronically sick, bed bound for years. Nothing Ren does is coincidence imo
I took the whole message as greed, like in kujo beatdown, he said 'i love to spank the greedy' he also referenced this song...'theres a message little Jimmy and the cookie and the jar' Great reaction , and ive finally joined so i definitely need to see you do Ren EDM losing it 😂😂 x
I see the WHOLE message as "The system which *relies* on greed to sustain itself and the methods used to keep "Us" playing along and obeying orders (MG1) . It's also a suggestion that *THIS* system isn't sustainable for much longer. . (Take a look at geopolitics at the moment.... Things are falling apart)
Think Guatanamo Bay and Palestinian prisoners taken from Gaza. They were hooded to dehumanise what we could see and how they felt inside. Humanity is not visible in the Money Game. The people under the hood act and interact in the Money Game unaware the hoods exist and or how our humanity has been stifled. Remember the end of Money Game Part l when Ren drew eyes on the hood of the guitarist making holes so he might see out before poring fuel on himself and setting it alight? Ren could not hide his disgust and contempt for the hooded figure and was going to make him suffer/kill him but showed his own humanity by opening his eyes instead. Ren gave us these songs to help us see what he does about what he calls "The Money Game" and to poke holes in our hoods. It is up to us to do something about it, for ourselves and for what is good in humanity.
Primes face at the end of the song just said it all as far as a reaction to this! We could be building community with worldwide unity if we weren’t all trying to “win” the money game that society makes us feel compelled to do and all that that entails. Unfortunately it’s got to the point where we all have to play it to some degree to survive. Great reaction guys! 💙
The line in Kujo beat ' There's a moral little Jimmy of the cookie and the jar' is from this track. You missed that as it was your first reaction. I'm loving watching you guys falling down the Ren rabbit hole 😊
Ren and money- when it turned that he was going to have to go back to Canada for further treatment it was asked by his community if he needed help with the costs or if he was going to do another GoFundMe (which is what he had to do with some of the other treatments before HiRen went insane a few years ago) and the answer was pretty much absolutely not- he didn't need it and just said that if you want to help keep listening to his music and buy the new album when it comes out... in a time when people will hit that cookie jar as many times as they can get away with- he just wants to do his thing, be appreciated for it and get they money we would get normally all while being hit with another f*ckton of medical bills...
The bag looks like a money bag, but also the imagery of a hostage🤔 aren’t we all hostage to the money? But your right, Ren does to make us talk and discuss xx Great reaction, thank you xx
Reactors are something else. I was so emotionally wrung out after watching this I couldn’t have spoken to anymore. I just hugged my little boy and told him he was enough and went to play outside with him. Lovely reaction ❤
I interpret the bags over the head as "hostage sacks," making everyone with a bag a "hostage" to the money game. Once Ren looks in the mirror, at the start of the video, he's able to take the bag off of his head; he's no longer a hostage to the game because he "sees himself" clearly. I'm so glad y'all got to enjoy this trilogy - thanks for sharing it with us. And congratulations on one million views!!!
The blindfolds are money bags. Goes along with the theme of money game. I think it alludes to how we're all blinded to the money game that we are in everyday. I'm not sure if it is a live audio performance. However if you pay close attention there is a max of three cuts. It's pretty f**king amazing that they can do all that in three cuts.
@@denalindeyep live audio and one cut when he is in the wheelchair. Great BTS by Wolf Johnson on his channel . He was at the rehearsals and filming of the video.
@@debthecpn For some reason I’ve never seen that whole thing. I think I was saving it for when I ran out of other things. I actually have a few older songs I’ve kept in reserve to improve a bad day as well. 💜
The little kid sat on the floor, he had a book which was "Business Economics" which he started to read - maybe in the form of a "Nursery Rhyme"? - loved the reaction btw
Great reaction fellas. This was released 12th Oct 2023 and the video has won a number of awards: • International Music Video Awards: Won Best Music Video and Best Director Music Video in 2024 • London Music Video Awards: Won Best Music Video, Best Director, and Best Concept in December 2023 • ÉCU The European Independent Film Festival: Won Best Music Video in 2024 As well as a phenomenal song, message and video, it’s the small things in the video that impress the hell out of me. @1:33. The mirror is a throwback to the lyrics in pt’s 1&2 - “point the mirror at ourselves…” @3:11. Behind the Rubik Cube on the desk is a small white toy called ‘Sackman’ which represents the tied up guitarist from MG1. Ren used to sell this figure on his merch store! @6:10. The image of the two characters shaking hands might be a passing nod to the front cover of the Pink Floyd album ‘Wish You Were Here’ (or maybe I’m reading too much into it). There's a great BTS for this video on Ren's channel called 'Ren - Money Game Part 3 (Behind The Scenes by Wolf Johnson)' here: ua-cam.com/video/CdEFYPef7RU/v-deo.html
If you have to cheat and lie and even ki*l for more, then it is greed. Ren speaks alot about greed, even in Sick Boi. "Greed is the seed that will destroy us all".
More or less the final part. Ren released a video called "Eden" one week after" Money Game 3". It's almost like an unofficial "Money Game 4". I would highly recommend checking it out to complete the narrative.
Ren understands the reality of his limitations due to his health and I believe he truly wants his message out there more than anything else. He’s apparently turned down a lot of opportunities and doesn’t bother if he doesn’t believe in it fully. Thankfully he doesn’t have to do anything he’d rather skip these days since he’s finally generating enough income to cover his healthcare & living expenses as well as being able to pay friends to be part of his team. 💜
Money doesn't bring happiness. It brings comfort and financial stability but never happiness. Happiness comes from the friends and family around us. Another great ren trilogy. I'm glad you have both done the money games
Think more about the guy with the poncho holding the rope. Then think about the eyes, the poncho coming off and the establishment "burning" (ref MG2, "Number 10 Downing Street") Then the parallel of Jimmy coming home "unprotected" when his own "storm" arrives with similar consequences. . It all ties in. As a side note we have Animal flow with the excerpts on the wall from George Orwell critiquing Communism, but now seeming to describe Capitalism. . ("All are equal.... But SOME are more equal than others"?)
This is a question that's an important one that very few people wrestle with-WHAT IS ENOUGH? The love of money breaks connections, makes it easy to disconnect with people and empathic, connect with fear and hate, sloth, judgment, greed. The love of money makes us want to hoard to protect the money, not reach out to others. People starving become pariah and many love the version where the poor deserve their downtrodden. We treat people as if they are important because of their money. Even if they are morons and evil, they are more important than those we victimize. People have to find their own value systems, but too often it's the one we are given that directs the mass of us. LOVE your channel and Ren.(through Chinchilla in there along with Ren's mates, too).
The more you dig into Ren's catalogue the deeper it will go. I've been finding new Ren gems for over a year now and I keep finding more. Protect this man.
One thing I like to think, in regards to the end sequence (other than the brilliance of using the sprinklers to visually give us the hook from the previous installments) is there's a reason we don't hear the gun go off, we hear the click, because I believe it's the symbolic gesture, Jimmy has opened his eyes now, he sees his mistakes, he sees the world as it is and not how his father told him, he's killing that part of him that strayed so far from the path and not actually taking his own life, just removing the bad parts symbolically so he can redeem himself with future actions.
Good to see you guys enjoyed the Money Games! Another thing Ren does is he starts a conversation. :) Hope that Wicked Ways comes to the channel soon. Some of Ren's best RAP rapping, IMHO.
Congratulations on 1 million views fellas 👏 Love your show 🔥 I'd love to see you get another 15 Ren songs in and then re-react to KBD. After taking in more of his music you'll be able to pick up on so many references and Easter eggs buried in it from his previous art! I suspect it might hit differently and in a good way! Keep up the great work guys and looking forward to more TDIP 🫶
Ren sets the whole thing up in the opening. With the kids first words being ‘mine, mine, give me’. Kids repeat the what they hear around them. His father and culture instantly teaching him that greed is normalised.
see a lot of folks working in one of his excellent vids "Animal Flow" which is super creative and an awesome creation. Highly recommend. Thanks for sharing
In my opinion the faces are covered in money bags. Ren is essentially saying that we are blinded by the chase of the bag and not looking around and seeing what is important, hence why he drew eyes on the guy in part 1.
The hoods are money bags, and the wearers are blinded by greed. When Ren drew the eyes on in money game 1, he saw himself and everything changed. In this one, he saw himself in the mirror at the beginning which he referenced in the other two. It's cool how he intertwines them all.
He did say he wanted to make a tv show and had some things written out already. He’s sick again. But I wonder if he will ever pursue that at some point because I’m here for all of that🤘🖤
It’s people blinded by the money bags over their heads. “Turns a saint into a sinner, a child into a killer” ~Ren. Marvin Gay touched on this with the album What’s going on.
There have been actual studies on the amount of money that a person needs to have that correlates with increases in happiness (that we can actually record). It all ties into being in a place where you aren't insecure about meals and housing, and you can afford small luxuries that make live more pleasant. Increasing beyond that amount does not seem to correlate with increases of happiness. (NOTE: this is my area of study and I have my degree in psychology and have read the research - at the time of the study, it was around $70k USD annually, but with inflation, that number would be higher now). Loved watching your reaction on this! 💜
To my mind Jimmy is society (all of us) and his dad is peer pressure, societal and capitalistic expectations, judging others and ourselves by financial category rather than personal perspective.....money as a means to all ends and pushing for more than we need and thinking that is happiness
Your faces at the end of that video…..stunned silence, like most of us who watched the premiere of this piece of art. But, like you say, Ren makes you think and dissect topics…..talk about subjects that are often swept under the carpet. That’s why I love Ren, he makes you think and feel 💜🔥 Congratulations on the one million views 🔥🔥🎉
I think the bags over the head imply this could be any one of us, and how faceless we’re seen by corporations and how trapped we are. Love your channel so much, you’re both brilliant xx
For your answer on how much money you need according to Ren listen to the first song off the love music series (do them all lol) also if you want to hear more truths by Ren listen to “Crucify your Culture”
Lyor Cohen, of Def Jam, Warner, and now head of UA-cam music met up with him, and got Sick Boi back up, after the Kujo thing. In the pics Lyor looked so happy to meet Ren!😂❤️
For the rope and bag. I agree with your overall take. The bag hides the individual, the noose signifies the pressures of wealth. You cannot take the bag off without first getting rid of the money noose. Been watching your vids for a few weeks now. I just want to say your thoughts, interpretations and discussions have been terrific so far. I love how much thought you put into your words, it shows how much you both love and appreciate music. Keep it going lads. If you enjoy stand-up, movies, shows, or anything other art form; I would happily watch your initial reactions to get your views on them. Thanks for the vids. Top class 👏
@@rogerstarkey5390 Interesting and solid take. I personally don't think we are fully blinded. We are aware of what is going on to a certain extent. But I fully agree with the control, the noose stops us from doing anything about it. 100%
My take on the bags; the bag on the head suggests that you are a hostage. The fact that is a money bag suggests that it is money that holds you hostage. Ren recognizes that money can hold you hostage, which is why he is able to remove his bag. Love your reactions guys ❤
The noose always takes me back to when he mentions it in Hi Ren, as a symbol of hopelessness, and in Chalk Outlines as the desperate struggle to keep drawing breath.
😆🤪🫶🔥 Going back to the line from Hi Ren, ‘Some people know me as the voice that you hear When you loosen the noose on the rope’ I like to think the noose stands for the hopeless, the sheep/herd, society.
Loved your mid-way discussion. Y’all get it. As for the bags on the heads, my interpretation is that don’t need to see the faces because it’s all of us. We all play the money game.
So excited, Got a shipping notification for my merch ❤ I'm hoping it get here by Friday, off to Devon with the bestie for some relax and recovery and maybe a tipple or two 😂 I'd love to show it off 😊
Just like the silence in the performance actually adds to the effect in the performance, the stillness and silence from you guys as reactors (normally so energetic and talkative), was very impactful. Also enjoyed all the deep discussion. Perhaps consider the difference between the words "need" (what is necessary to survive) and "want" (which can easily become a never-ending greed as you guys talked about). Great reaction!! 😁
This is the first MV he has done that cost over a thousand pounds. It was intended to be another 1 take but they had trouble with the rain machine so they did one cut at the wheelchair turn. This MV has won several awards for cinematography this year. I read somewhere in a comment that the sacks are money bags and we're "blinded by money". The rope around the neck is clearly meant to have multiple meanings though the money bag thing has stuck with me.
In the beginning of his career, Ren got signed by Sony. Sadly, he was at the height of his illness, got really sick, and Sony dropped him. Ren doesn't care though, as stated in all his lyrics, he just does what he loves and takes it one day at a time - and we're all blessed to experience his beautiful gift!
Knox Hill said we would be blown away by the artists who Ren has turned down collabs with , 'cause he just wasn't feeling the project or message. Ren seems more in love with music than climbing the industry. Labels would dictate and censor his art and that would not be Ren. ❤❤❤
I hope we can always manage to support him as an independent artist ❤
Spot on
This! 👆
To that point, Ren himself said he'd rather jump on a track with a UA-camr who had 100 followers whose project he loved than be a feature for a famous artist he wasn't feeling.
@perfectkismet and that's why me and my family love him.
My thoughts on the hood and rope, is that they are money bags and they can’t see past the money. The rope is the noose of greed that money has a choke hold on people. But just my opinion. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
I agree, the money bags blind us to what's really going on, and how we are used, like worker ants to make rich people rich.
Snap!!! That totally makes perfect sense 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
The moneybags/ rope symbolise the CONTROL of the establishment as per MG1,
Agree! And I heard the saying was “power corrupts but absolute power is kinda neat”
@@guyincognito7442Hahahahaha 😂
"Theres a moral, little jimmy, of the cookie and the jar" that lyric from kujo beat down refers to this song 😁💜💜
Yes! One of my favorite references in KBD! 🍪 I think it would be AMAZING for them to watch some more Ren and then re-react to KBD, now having had the opportunity to pick up all those little Easter eggs!
@@saragates2255💯 But theyd have to watch the vid of him bringing receipts first
@@saragates2255great shout. Now you know how he compiles fables 🤣 love it love it
I was expecting you to talk about how much walking Ren did in this one, but he got you thinking about other things 😂 You're the first reactors I've seen ask the question about how much is too much. You get to the heart of things.
This might be the time to watch Ren's 1 million subscribers video. Congrats to you both! Well deserved.
I love that part 1 is WHY, part 2 is HOW, and part 3 is an example! Brilliance. I think the "blindfolds" are money bags, as we're all blind to the money game.
Bags on head = exaggerated version of you.
Ren must be responsible for helping more UA-cam reaction channels hitting 1M views than pretty much anyone else!
"A rising tide...."
Facts 🎯
I would suggest watching REN’s million subscribers video. This will give you a good insight to this man’s soul. Big up gents.
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Agreed
Absolutely yes!!!
Love you guys! I think this is Ren’s best work. Every time I watch it I am even more amazed.
yes 💯👍
As someone whose family is wealthy and money is the most important thing to them, and every one of them is unhappy. And they cant understand how I can be so happy working with dogs and living a minimalistic life style. Its more important that i make a difference in the world than to collect money and things
Oh! You get to spend your life working with dogs? You lucky person❤❤❤
Amazing comment.
Thank you for what you do to help dogs! 💚🐾
I volunteer daily at my local shelter managing playgroups and working with the tougher dogs. I don't make a penny, but the work is so very rewarding. 💚🐾
This is BEAUTIFUL ❤️
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This video won the Best European Independent Music Video award at the ECU Film Festival last year. It's a bloody masterpiece. Great art does make you think, doesn't it? Love you guys! Congrats on the 1M views. 🎉🎉🎉
And won Best Music Video, Best Director, and Best Concept at London Music Video Awards in December 2023. 🎉
The ECU Festival was this year ❤
Even Sir Andrew Lloyd-Webber felt compelled to talk about the brilliance of the stage production.
Don’t you guys remember Sick Boi?
“Why you so upset, don’t you want to be a rich boy?”
“FUCK no! Industry is cut-throat. I’ve been doing bits by myself, swimming back-stroke...”
RAPPING with a SLIT THROAT!
@@kellyt5341 😍
They were distracted from a lot of the lyrics on that particular track. Vibing with the beat, etc.
In Money Game Pt3 Ren stated "Mold will Grow upon the Surface and Consumes til it dies, and Our Fate could be the same without this Story to the Wise" The more I hear from Ren the more I realize his Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! But When Compassion Becomes a Target for Other's Greed, then the Truly Compassionate Must Stand Up and Acknowledge that Injustice and Greed Must be Confronted and Addressed! Even a Thousand Years Ago Rulers Knew "Don't Mess With A Bard!" Your Descendants will Curse You for a Hundred Generations!
The rain at the end is a physical replacement of the line in the other two MGs 'rain, rain rain...' Beautiful to do it..even though it cost them £80 replacing the soggy bow of the violin player that got wet!
I always want to give her props for not flinching and ruining that crucial take. Since he only had one suit and it was a single attempt. She had to have fought every instinct to not wrap her baby in her arms.
I love how thought provoking Ren’s artistry is! Makes us reflect and try to be better human beings…
I believe intentional or not he’s started a movement and given so many so much HOPE💫
In agreement with your other subs to check out his “One Million Subscribers” it gives you a glimpse inside of his heart💝
More than that, previously it was 'a storm it comes our way...' and now Jimmy is sitting out in the storm.
"And I'm not fussed about being rich
Either, as long as I can live the way I want
Keep your mansion, keep your beamer
I don't want them
As long as I can live happily
And earn a comfortable life for my family and me
And be free
For life is never ever set in stone
That's why I never followed anybody's rules but my own"
-Ren "Love Music"
It's everywhere, isn't it?
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Yes. Love Music part 1. Written about 14 years ago now. He still maintains the same values.
Well remembered, I'd totally forgotten about those particular lyrics.(well, it has been almost 3 years since I heard it, lol).
The Love Music Quad is my go to when I need a pep up. Priceless.
Exactly ❤
Hostages are blindfolded in this manner. We are all hostages to the Money game! Well that's my interpretation....
"Hostages" is the wrong term.
Apathetic?
Ren is suggesting that if "We" as a collective "See" the problem and act on it , then "The system" changes.
The bag is part of the "divide and conquer" tactic so prevalent in local AND geopolitics at the moment
But
IF "we" see the tactic (eyes)
The "Establishment" loses its protection (poncho) and "burns" (ref "Number 10 Downing Street" in part 2, he couldn't be much clearer?.... But of course "he's only kidding".... In a *heavily* sarcastic way)
Yes! That's what I think
I just want to clarify, a few people have said Sony dropped Ren, this is not true. While making his first album he was so poorly he just physically couldn’t carry on. He approached them and they came to the decision to part ways, Ren has said it was all very amicable and he later contacted his contact at Sony asking if he could use some of the music that was created during that time on his freckled angels album which they allowed. I think almost every label has tried to sign him over the last couple of years and he’s turned them all down. Ren doesn’t care about money or being number 1 he just wants to make music. As he’s said a few times “if his music can be a companion to someone in the dark that’s all the validation he needs” What you see is really what you get with him, he’s not just spouting off lyrics that sound good together, he really does mean what he’s saying.
Another amazing reaction from you both. Definitely one of the renegade’s favourite channels 😊
His manager was a different story, he was an a-hole to Ren and Chinchilla. Ren has a song he was just recording on IG yrs back and in one of the lyrics Ren mentioned "The earrings are staying, something about cutting his (Liam) head off. Ren was extremely pissed when he was rapping/speaking. I am going to guess that was his manager back in the day that got a song written for him. 😂
@cathrinewitty6749 thanks for this
Amazing comments.
Thank you
Wonder if Ren himself could make a record label, that followed his own principles? Or would that be giving the pinky to the devil already?
I think he loved being number one and would again actually - he's been working hard for many years and has had / still has a tough road but not at the expense of artistic freedom.😊
Bit of trivia: the piano at the start is a nod to Grieg's piano concerto in A minor :)
The first concerto ever recorded. The only one he completed. Grieg also didn't respond well to classical training and didn't find his voice til he left it. He ALSO was extremely chronically sick, bed bound for years. Nothing Ren does is coincidence imo
I suggest watching "Morecambe and Wise, Andre Previn, Grieg"
Hilarious.
Ren sent out a call for a piano and Yamaha stepped up and delivered, setup and tuned it for this video. The power of Ren....
@@rogerstarkey5390Andrew Preview😂
He compounded a fable.
He walked somewhere.
There was a dude in a chair.
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And a BANGING HOOK 😂
Absolutely! Love this!
check ✔️ check ✔️ check and check ✔️
Yes yes yes yes yes 😂❤
And he interrupted musicians 😂
He's definitely going somewhere in this one. AND there's a chair!
If there's a chair, there's a hostage. You can take that to the BANK!
Sam Tompkins and Ren busking - Worth it / Man’s world …. Absolutely brilliant
Guys would love to see you react to his 1 million subs video. It shows exactly who he is and it’s beautiful! Much love from the uk.😊xxx
God I love you guys!
Your faces , Ren is bloody phenomenal.
KP traumatised by Ren is my favourite UA-cam watch rn 😂
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4:54 Ren has said that he really likes different interpretations of his work.
Ren does make you think, and he does it in such an entertaining way.
I took the whole message as greed, like in kujo beatdown, he said 'i love to spank the greedy' he also referenced this song...'theres a message little Jimmy and the cookie and the jar'
Great reaction , and ive finally joined so i definitely need to see you do Ren EDM losing it 😂😂 x
I see the WHOLE message as
"The system which *relies* on greed to sustain itself and the methods used to keep "Us" playing along and obeying orders (MG1)
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It's also a suggestion that *THIS* system isn't sustainable for much longer.
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(Take a look at geopolitics at the moment.... Things are falling apart)
Money also equals power and with great power comes great responsibility. It’s not how much, it’s how you use it.
Amazing reaction ya'll are seriously becoming my new fave Ren reactors!!
@@MissAmesD your our favourite too x
Animal Flow has a lot of people in it too (the acoustic version doesn't but is way cool too)
Definitely one to do a double feature of like you did with Murderer.
Love the Animal Flow video. Really fun. D'you know if Ren needed the cane in that video or was it just for the aesthetic?
@@IndieRockerHippy it's for show, an hommage to Clockwork Orange or so I've been told
@@itsakittyting Ahhhh of course! His Kubrick obsession 😄 Thanks for confirming
The bags are moneybags- we're so blinded by money we don't see what is going on around us... well done guys
Think Guatanamo Bay and Palestinian prisoners taken from Gaza. They were hooded to dehumanise what we could see and how they felt inside. Humanity is not visible in the Money Game. The people under the hood act and interact in the Money Game unaware the hoods exist and or how our humanity has been stifled.
Remember the end of Money Game Part l when Ren drew eyes on the hood of the guitarist making holes so he might see out before poring fuel on himself and setting it alight? Ren could not hide his disgust and contempt for the hooded figure and was going to make him suffer/kill him but showed his own humanity by opening his eyes instead.
Ren gave us these songs to help us see what he does about what he calls "The Money Game" and to poke holes in our hoods. It is up to us to do something about it, for ourselves and for what is good in humanity.
The blindfolds are money bags over their heads. Effectively letting the 'money game' blind them from reality. "We're all part of that old money game.:
Primes face at the end of the song just said it all as far as a reaction to this!
We could be building community with worldwide unity if we weren’t all trying to “win” the money game that society makes us feel compelled to do and all that that entails. Unfortunately it’s got to the point where we all have to play it to some degree to survive.
Great reaction guys! 💙
@@Bunny-bi8dj I loved watching Prime react, especially at the end and great question from Siah: “how much is enough?”
Now you understand the “moral of jimmy and the cookie jar” from kujo beatdown
The line in Kujo beat ' There's a moral little Jimmy of the cookie and the jar' is from this track. You missed that as it was your first reaction. I'm loving watching you guys falling down the Ren rabbit hole 😊
Love how the songs all connect at times, the sea shells in hi ren and money game pt. 2 🤯
Ren and money- when it turned that he was going to have to go back to Canada for further treatment it was asked by his community if he needed help with the costs or if he was going to do another GoFundMe (which is what he had to do with some of the other treatments before HiRen went insane a few years ago) and the answer was pretty much absolutely not- he didn't need it and just said that if you want to help keep listening to his music and buy the new album when it comes out... in a time when people will hit that cookie jar as many times as they can get away with- he just wants to do his thing, be appreciated for it and get they money we would get normally all while being hit with another f*ckton of medical bills...
The character & principles of the man are second to none. An astounding human & artist ❤
The bag looks like a money bag, but also the imagery of a hostage🤔 aren’t we all hostage to the money? But your right, Ren does to make us talk and discuss xx Great reaction, thank you xx
Love the look of shocked amazement with the hand stuck to the face!😂❤
My interpretation has always been the money bags blind us and strangle us.
At 17 "he sells his vision".
" hope is the voice when you loosen the noose around your neck" from Hi Ren.
Reactors are something else. I was so emotionally wrung out after watching this I couldn’t have spoken to anymore. I just hugged my little boy and told him he was enough and went to play outside with him. Lovely reaction ❤
@@LeeannG Always read your name as Lean G now 😂❤️
@@Starlight0161 it just so happens that I also read my name that way now 🤣🤣😂
I interpret the bags over the head as "hostage sacks," making everyone with a bag a "hostage" to the money game. Once Ren looks in the mirror, at the start of the video, he's able to take the bag off of his head; he's no longer a hostage to the game because he "sees himself" clearly. I'm so glad y'all got to enjoy this trilogy - thanks for sharing it with us. And congratulations on one million views!!!
The blindfolds are money bags. Goes along with the theme of money game. I think it alludes to how we're all blinded to the money game that we are in everyday.
I'm not sure if it is a live audio performance. However if you pay close attention there is a max of three cuts. It's pretty f**king amazing that they can do all that in three cuts.
It’s live with one cut to move the lapel mic before he went into the rain.
@@denalindeyep live audio and one cut when he is in the wheelchair. Great BTS by Wolf Johnson on his channel . He was at the rehearsals and filming of the video.
Yes, we are blinded being part of the money game.
Remember in Money Game 1 when he draws eyes on the guitarist, he opens his/our eyes.
@@debthecpn For some reason I’ve never seen that whole thing. I think I was saving it for when I ran out of other things. I actually have a few older songs I’ve kept in reserve to improve a bad day as well. 💜
*SIAH* !
*NAIL ON THE HEAD*
I've been posting since I first saw this...
"We've forgotten the difference between "enough" and *MORE* "
The little kid sat on the floor, he had a book which was "Business Economics" which he started to read - maybe in the form of a "Nursery Rhyme"? - loved the reaction btw
Great reaction fellas.
This was released 12th Oct 2023 and the video has won a number of awards:
• International Music Video Awards: Won Best Music Video and Best Director Music Video in 2024
• London Music Video Awards: Won Best Music Video, Best Director, and Best Concept in December 2023
• ÉCU The European Independent Film Festival: Won Best Music Video in 2024
As well as a phenomenal song, message and video, it’s the small things in the video that impress the hell out of me.
@1:33. The mirror is a throwback to the lyrics in pt’s 1&2 - “point the mirror at ourselves…”
@3:11. Behind the Rubik Cube on the desk is a small white toy called ‘Sackman’ which represents the tied up guitarist from MG1. Ren used to sell this figure on his merch store!
@6:10. The image of the two characters shaking hands might be a passing nod to the front cover of the Pink Floyd album ‘Wish You Were Here’ (or maybe I’m reading too much into it).
There's a great BTS for this video on Ren's channel called 'Ren - Money Game Part 3 (Behind The Scenes by Wolf Johnson)' here: ua-cam.com/video/CdEFYPef7RU/v-deo.html
hiya Pete! 😊
I think the handshake sequence where Ren goes under the arms coincides with the lyric alms.
Under the arms, I think, represents when he started turning "underhanded" in his pursuits! My two cents!
@@MissyGail4eva hi there!!
I thought of Wish You Were Here too, I suppose a fan would make the connection. I also think of Money from Dark Side of The Moon.
If you have to cheat and lie and even ki*l for more, then it is greed. Ren speaks alot about greed, even in Sick Boi. "Greed is the seed that will destroy us all".
More or less the final part. Ren released a video called "Eden" one week after" Money Game 3". It's almost like an unofficial "Money Game 4". I would highly recommend checking it out to complete the narrative.
Agree 💯.
The whole concept that fans had to work together to get to the prize was amazing. If didn't would not have found the treasure
Eden is made better watched at the end of the money hunt live stream video, it was amazing
Love you guys you got your fables walking and tons of chairs 😂😂 ❤
Ren understands the reality of his limitations due to his health and I believe he truly wants his message out there more than anything else. He’s apparently turned down a lot of opportunities and doesn’t bother if he doesn’t believe in it fully. Thankfully he doesn’t have to do anything he’d rather skip these days since he’s finally generating enough income to cover his healthcare & living expenses as well as being able to pay friends to be part of his team. 💜
Money doesn't bring happiness. It brings comfort and financial stability but never happiness. Happiness comes from the friends and family around us. Another great ren trilogy. I'm glad you have both done the money games
I'm guessing it's a money bag over their heads ...... this really is a master piece ..... great reaction guys ❤
Long established to be the case
Debt is like a noose around your neck and the money bag changes you ability to see
Think more about the guy with the poncho holding the rope.
Then think about the eyes, the poncho coming off and the establishment "burning" (ref MG2, "Number 10 Downing Street")
Then the parallel of Jimmy coming home "unprotected" when his own "storm" arrives with similar consequences.
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It all ties in.
As a side note we have Animal flow with the excerpts on the wall from George Orwell critiquing Communism, but now seeming to describe Capitalism.
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("All are equal.... But SOME are more equal than others"?)
And now lets see again Kujo Beat Down :) you did the full circle! Respect!
Rain, rain, rain, rain... A storm it comes our way. Truly love your reactions.
Great reaction once again. I think the money bags represent the fact that we're all blinded by money. 💰💰
great reaction as usually 🔥 luv to see u both discuss the song so deeply ❤🇨🇭
This is a question that's an important one that very few people wrestle with-WHAT IS ENOUGH? The love of money breaks connections, makes it easy to disconnect with people and empathic, connect with fear and hate, sloth, judgment, greed. The love of money makes us want to hoard to protect the money, not reach out to others. People starving become pariah and many love the version where the poor deserve their downtrodden. We treat people as if they are important because of their money. Even if they are morons and evil, they are more important than those we victimize. People have to find their own value systems, but too often it's the one we are given that directs the mass of us. LOVE your channel and Ren.(through Chinchilla in there along with Ren's mates, too).
👏❣️ love your reaction. Remember, this is a one take video up to the wheelchair. Then another one take because the rain 👏❣️
You might recall in Kujo Beat Down, "there's a moral, little Jimmy, of the cookie, and the jar" - that was the Little Jimmy he was referring to.
Such a genius trilogy. Prompts so many brilliant discussions like this.
The more you dig into Ren's catalogue the deeper it will go. I've been finding new Ren gems for over a year now and I keep finding more. Protect this man.
One thing I like to think, in regards to the end sequence (other than the brilliance of using the sprinklers to visually give us the hook from the previous installments) is there's a reason we don't hear the gun go off, we hear the click, because I believe it's the symbolic gesture, Jimmy has opened his eyes now, he sees his mistakes, he sees the world as it is and not how his father told him, he's killing that part of him that strayed so far from the path and not actually taking his own life, just removing the bad parts symbolically so he can redeem himself with future actions.
Omgoodness , the look on your faces are priceless 😮. I had the same reaction.
Good to see you guys enjoyed the Money Games! Another thing Ren does is he starts a conversation. :) Hope that Wicked Ways comes to the channel soon. Some of Ren's best RAP rapping, IMHO.
Congratulations on 1 million views fellas 👏 Love your show 🔥
I'd love to see you get another 15 Ren songs in and then re-react to KBD. After taking in more of his music you'll be able to pick up on so many references and Easter eggs buried in it from his previous art! I suspect it might hit differently and in a good way!
Keep up the great work guys and looking forward to more TDIP 🫶
Ren sets the whole thing up in the opening. With the kids first words being ‘mine, mine, give me’. Kids repeat the what they hear around them. His father and culture instantly teaching him that greed is normalised.
Great reflection on the story and how it ties into Ren’s philosophy!
In a piece elsewhere Ren called the people with heads bagged “hostages”….
Hostages to the money game. All of us. So yeah, powerless. Well done !
see a lot of folks working in one of his excellent vids "Animal Flow" which is super creative and an awesome creation.
Highly recommend.
Thanks for sharing
In my opinion the faces are covered in money bags. Ren is essentially saying that we are blinded by the chase of the bag and not looking around and seeing what is important, hence why he drew eyes on the guy in part 1.
The hoods are money bags, and the wearers are blinded by greed. When Ren drew the eyes on in money game 1, he saw himself and everything changed. In this one, he saw himself in the mirror at the beginning which he referenced in the other two. It's cool how he intertwines them all.
What I think is that the bags actually represent money bags.And they cover the face because we are all part of money game , so anyone can be Jimmy.
Now you have more context about Ren as an artist, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE do a re-reaction to Kujo Beat Down!
There are so many easter ehgs in there
He did say he wanted to make a tv show and had some things written out already. He’s sick again. But I wonder if he will ever pursue that at some point because I’m here for all of that🤘🖤
It’s people blinded by the money bags over their heads. “Turns a saint into a sinner, a child into a killer” ~Ren. Marvin Gay touched on this with the album What’s going on.
There have been actual studies on the amount of money that a person needs to have that correlates with increases in happiness (that we can actually record). It all ties into being in a place where you aren't insecure about meals and housing, and you can afford small luxuries that make live more pleasant. Increasing beyond that amount does not seem to correlate with increases of happiness. (NOTE: this is my area of study and I have my degree in psychology and have read the research - at the time of the study, it was around $70k USD annually, but with inflation, that number would be higher now). Loved watching your reaction on this! 💜
To my mind Jimmy is society (all of us) and his dad is peer pressure, societal and capitalistic expectations, judging others and ourselves by financial category rather than personal perspective.....money as a means to all ends and pushing for more than we need and thinking that is happiness
Your faces at the end of that video…..stunned silence, like most of us who watched the premiere of this piece of art.
But, like you say, Ren makes you think and dissect topics…..talk about subjects that are often swept under the carpet. That’s why I love Ren, he makes you think and feel 💜🔥
Congratulations on the one million views 🔥🔥🎉
I think the bags over the head imply this could be any one of us, and how faceless we’re seen by corporations and how trapped we are.
Love your channel so much, you’re both brilliant xx
For your answer on how much money you need according to Ren listen to the first song off the love music series (do them all lol) also if you want to hear more truths by Ren listen to “Crucify your Culture”
He was signed by Sony before he became ill and it all got too much for him due to fatigue and pain so his contract had to be cancelled!
Lyor Cohen, of Def Jam, Warner, and now head of UA-cam music met up with him, and got Sick Boi back up, after the Kujo thing. In the pics Lyor looked so happy to meet Ren!😂❤️
For the rope and bag. I agree with your overall take. The bag hides the individual, the noose signifies the pressures of wealth. You cannot take the bag off without first getting rid of the money noose.
Been watching your vids for a few weeks now. I just want to say your thoughts, interpretations and discussions have been terrific so far. I love how much thought you put into your words, it shows how much you both love and appreciate music. Keep it going lads.
If you enjoy stand-up, movies, shows, or anything other art form; I would happily watch your initial reactions to get your views on them.
Thanks for the vids. Top class 👏
The bag BLINDS the individual.
The rope is the control from part 1.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Interesting and solid take.
I personally don't think we are fully blinded. We are aware of what is going on to a certain extent.
But I fully agree with the control, the noose stops us from doing anything about it. 100%
My take on the bags; the bag on the head suggests that you are a hostage. The fact that is a money bag suggests that it is money that holds you hostage. Ren recognizes that money can hold you hostage, which is why he is able to remove his bag. Love your reactions guys ❤
It is so brilliant that he sang the catchy chorus from the other two parts without even singing it.... rain rain rain
The noose always takes me back to when he mentions it in Hi Ren, as a symbol of hopelessness, and in Chalk Outlines as the desperate struggle to keep drawing breath.
BTW. there is an epilogue to the Money Game. The track "Eden" was shown at the end of the original live stream of the money game competition.
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Going back to the line from Hi Ren, ‘Some people know me as the voice that you hear
When you loosen the noose on the rope’
I like to think the noose stands for the hopeless, the sheep/herd, society.
Loved your mid-way discussion. Y’all get it. As for the bags on the heads, my interpretation is that don’t need to see the faces because it’s all of us. We all play the money game.
So excited, Got a shipping notification for my merch ❤ I'm hoping it get here by Friday, off to Devon with the bestie for some relax and recovery and maybe a tipple or two 😂
I'd love to show it off 😊
And they might remind someone of the old fashioned money bags that were used ages ago. MG#3 was dropped only a few months ago as I write this.
Money Game part three is quite recent. The video has won some independent film awards around the world.
Just like the silence in the performance actually adds to the effect in the performance, the stillness and silence from you guys as reactors (normally so energetic and talkative), was very impactful. Also enjoyed all the deep discussion. Perhaps consider the difference between the words "need" (what is necessary to survive) and "want" (which can easily become a never-ending greed as you guys talked about). Great reaction!! 😁
Great reaction guys! And congratulations to 1M views.
This is the first MV he has done that cost over a thousand pounds. It was intended to be another 1 take but they had trouble with the rain machine so they did one cut at the wheelchair turn. This MV has won several awards for cinematography this year. I read somewhere in a comment that the sacks are money bags and we're "blinded by money". The rope around the neck is clearly meant to have multiple meanings though the money bag thing has stuck with me.
Loved y’all’s reaction!!!! Found you through Ren, but you’ve become some of my favorite reactors!!!!❤️
In the beginning of his career, Ren got signed by Sony. Sadly, he was at the height of his illness, got really sick, and Sony dropped him. Ren doesn't care though, as stated in all his lyrics, he just does what he loves and takes it one day at a time - and we're all blessed to experience his beautiful gift!
Great dialogue about how much money is too much. Rens ideals and values really make you think. Loved all 3 reactions!
Compounding fables 💯💯💯 so enjoying your Ren reacts 🥰
Shout out for Samuel too, great collaboration and perfect execution by Ren!
You guys are so good!!! Really liking your Ren reactions 🎉