The Most Fuel Efficient V10 Ever Made

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  • @automotiveflux
    @automotiveflux  8 місяців тому +26

    The title is assuming none of you manage to beat my 1.1L/100km (please do) also don't forget the video sponsor Henson Shaving! hensonshaving.com/
    (Use code automotiveflux for a free pack of 100 blades with your purchase)

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 8 місяців тому +3

      V10? Cool! Fuel efficient? Also cool! Fuel efficient v10? Whaaa??? Add a manual and turbo andvtec system and I'm in!

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 8 місяців тому

      rieisksnspsksk

    • @FatMfFrog
      @FatMfFrog 7 місяців тому

      For when fixtures get messed up, sometimes u can just hit the undo button and it makes it right for some reason

    • @usshared1649
      @usshared1649 7 місяців тому

      Hi @automotiveflux
      I doubt you'll see this but I just made a v10 powered car that does 0.85 L/100km, it has a drag coefficient of 0.118 and weighs 512.8 kg.
      Do you want me to send it to you? If so please let me know :)

  • @Toyota--Camry
    @Toyota--Camry 8 місяців тому +140

    With a 40 liter fuel tank you would be changing the oil after about 2 tanks’ worth of driving

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 8 місяців тому +9

      I bet the tire would have gone from Somer, to winter, and back to summer at least 7 times before then.

  • @heitorbernardes7977
    @heitorbernardes7977 8 місяців тому +68

    11:42, yeah, e-CVT. They DO NOT have a belt like the CVTs you're thinking of. Hybrid CVTs have a generator motor in place of the torque converter and another motor to drive the wheels. They also have a couple of fixed gears for highway driving, and some have them for reverse as well. That's why hybrid CVTs are more efficient. Normal CVTs are actually the worst in terms of efficiency, but because they keep your engine in a more efficient regime, it tends to balance out and give a net positive gain in fuel economy.

    • @frayziedaisy
      @frayziedaisy 8 місяців тому

      Tractors need CVTs to put out the power they need whenever they have to. Your engine rpm keeps a constant at ~1300 and that’s okay for a diesel that only revs 2k
      that’s why it’s called efficient because you couldn’t get this with any other gearbox
      it’s efficient in other factors than fuel

    • @heitorbernardes7977
      @heitorbernardes7977 8 місяців тому

      @@frayziedaisy what is the job of a transmission? To put power down. So its efficiency must be a measure of how much power it puts down in relation to the power it receives. That's it. If you input 100hp into a cvt and it outputs 66hp to the wheels, it's less efficient than a standard gearbox that outputs 82hp from the same 100hp.
      Now you can have whatever motive you want to have a continuous of ratios in your transmission, but that does not mean it's efficient in its job.

    • @ARockyRock
      @ARockyRock 4 місяці тому

      cvts = innefficient but sometimes effective for certain applications

    • @chrisJordan-xb9wc
      @chrisJordan-xb9wc 2 місяці тому

      the e-cvts use some kind of planetary gear setup to change the gear ratio based on the speed of the electric motor, it doesnt actually drive the wheels through that motor

  • @skydewz
    @skydewz 8 місяців тому +11

    Having a cat will allow you to use the emission optimization in the fuel map, which will massively increase your engine efficiency in this game. High flow three-way is the most efficient

  • @alxti
    @alxti 8 місяців тому +24

    The synchronizer issue is not with the auto clutch, you need to hold the shift button longer. new feature

    • @ARockyRock
      @ARockyRock 8 місяців тому +6

      yea, new update changed shift physics.
      also tapping the clutch while shifting helps.

    • @sedixmrboss5625
      @sedixmrboss5625 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ARockyRockYea, it's shit... Noticed.

    • @automotiveflux
      @automotiveflux  8 місяців тому +6

      Not sure that's a feature haha, I will try to turn that off when I'm on controller

  • @-aid4084
    @-aid4084 8 місяців тому +9

    11:51 Hybrid CVT's are different than a belt driven CVT, it uses electric motors to change the output speed and therefore the gear ratio for whatever engine you have in there. a Belt driven CVT has mechanical loss due to slipping while changing gear ratios as well as loss through friction required to keep the chain tightly secured. this is why hybrids are so efficient, because it gets the best of both worlds, infinite gear ratios for the engine, and no mechanical loss.

  • @ChristopherT_
    @ChristopherT_ 8 місяців тому +27

    If you don't size down the stroke you get more efficiency. Keep the bore as small as possible though. :)

    • @BrokeWrench
      @BrokeWrench 8 місяців тому +3

      I wondered if that would help

    • @ChristopherT_
      @ChristopherT_ 8 місяців тому

      @@BrokeWrench I did as well, so I tested it while watching. I went from about 28% efficiency to 32%.

    • @Drunken_Hamster
      @Drunken_Hamster 4 місяці тому

      Came to say this. Undersquare is more efficient, but he just focused on making it as small as possible, which ended up being oversquare.

  • @PTB_BE
    @PTB_BE 8 місяців тому +14

    "I like fuel efficiency"
    I don't, install a *leaded fuel afterburner*

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 8 місяців тому +5

    I hope Automation/BeamNG will one day do actual aerodynamics simulation

  • @frayziedaisy
    @frayziedaisy 8 місяців тому +2

    when you go for fuel efficiency you can try low boost turbos
    like 0.3-0.5bar

  • @gagedykstra8602
    @gagedykstra8602 8 місяців тому +2

    Here’s what u can do… use turbos but use very small ones and use smart boost setup. Of course highest quality

  • @BuddaDrifts
    @BuddaDrifts 8 місяців тому +8

    you know its a good day when flux uploads

  • @any1alive
    @any1alive 8 місяців тому +1

    id your evey tryign for efficency, goto the 4 grid view onthe engine, look at the bottom left panel for part efficency, and the bottom right for fuel efficency, you can see the green part expand and contract as you change parts

  • @ARockyRock
    @ARockyRock 8 місяців тому +2

    For the wheels, you should be able reduce width so long as you increase offset so they are flush with the side of thr car. more aerodynamic.

  • @canimetion9229
    @canimetion9229 8 місяців тому +3

    Hey Flux!, I still need to beat your goal of 1.1lkm.
    I managed to achieve 1.3lkm in the Elisbury update.
    So my setup is a 1.4l v10, magnesium block, 50mm bore, 71.3 stroke, DOHCX5, ALSI Head, Billet steel crank, titanium conrod, hyper cast pistons, and harmonic damper at .2, 16:1 comp, 0 cam 0 lifter vvt intake 3k rpm, two turbos with smart boost, intercooler set to 1020, standard geo, ball bearing, 30mm exducer 26.3 inducer with a 22 ar at 5.08 psi, the fuel system is Direct Injection Per Cylinder STD MID manifold set to 0, using LNG with -5 timing and a 0 for fuel map, o on the increase emissions control, tubular race dual at 12.7mm high-flow three reverse flowx2. All set to +15. This has given me 77.3hp with a 46.4 Engine efficiency.
    I used the same sedan body as you: Carbon fiber panels, monocoque chassis carbon fiber, front transverse with MacPherson struts fronts, and pushrods rear. I added a front spoiler and a rear wing set to 0. FWD uses Auto Manual 8 speed, maxed out top gear, maxed out 1st, and spread set to 50 with a 205 limiter. Electric LSD, radials hard long life, 195 front, 225 rear, running 550r18, carbon fiber rims, carbon brake single piston at 160mm front and rear, undertray is flow optimized, no active aero or cooling flaps, cooling flow and brake flow set to 0 also, single-seater, with race interior and no entertainment, manual rack and pinion using tc+abs no safety 1940, weight optimizer set to 100, and standard springs, twin-tube dampers, and passive sway bars. I did a race tune for my suspension, springs to 2.8 and 2.0, damper set to 2.8 and 1.8, with no sway bars, and max ride height at 220mm. All qualities are set to +15 minus the safety quality that will be set to -15.
    That is my setup! Feel free to roast my setup or improve on it!

    • @automotiveflux
      @automotiveflux  8 місяців тому

      1.3 with turbos? I didn't think that was possible

    • @canimetion9229
      @canimetion9229 8 місяців тому

      @@automotiveflux I challenged myself to do that! I will be doing a an builder later on. (don't know when, But I will update you on it!)

    • @canimetion9229
      @canimetion9229 8 місяців тому

      @@automotiveflux Nothing changed. Still at 1.3 even N/A.

    • @automotiveflux
      @automotiveflux  8 місяців тому

      @@canimetion9229 turns out I'm lucky with 1.1

  • @aiskont
    @aiskont 8 місяців тому +4

    try to make the most tuneable engine e.g. i6 that comes with 250hp but can make 1000 on stock internals

    • @carltonleboss
      @carltonleboss 8 місяців тому

      Would that even be possible to engineer?

  • @izaiahschlosser4512
    @izaiahschlosser4512 8 місяців тому +2

    Cvts are the most efficient transmission if you can specifically rune it to stay at an rpm/load, unfortunately people say that its weird and dont like it so most companys will tune "gears" for their cvts. That being said idk if its the most efficient in game

    • @DorifutoRabbit
      @DorifutoRabbit 8 місяців тому

      Honda had a good idea with the first Jazz/Fit, you could use it as a proper CVT or fake 7 gears with paddles, so at least there was a choice for the driver.

  • @robbiemer8178
    @robbiemer8178 8 місяців тому +3

    Good luck if you do try to do a low power/high efficiency showcase! Those things--in combination or separately--seem to get the discord all in a bother... 😁
    Another fun video, thanks!

  • @nicholasphillips464
    @nicholasphillips464 8 місяців тому +1

    Just found your channel loving your videos! Keep it up manee

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster 4 місяці тому

    You should look into swapping a Mercedes OM606 and a ZF 8-speed trans into your Ram. Using a Turbolamik TCU makes the ZF8 almost as easy to swap as a 4L80. The Mercedes OM606 will almost instantly double your fuel economy, and you can relatively easily build it up to make the same HP and TQ as the Hemi without really losing the fuel economy at cruise speed.

  • @Tommygunn776
    @Tommygunn776 8 місяців тому +5

    My brain:
    WHAT THE F*CK IS A KILOMETER!

  • @J.F.K.O
    @J.F.K.O 8 місяців тому

    vw did kinda make a xl1 ish car for the mass market the Lupo 3L tdi did 33 km/L if i remember right great car except for the fact they made it with a automated manual gearbox apparently made of paper

  • @jwalster9412
    @jwalster9412 8 місяців тому +3

    @automotiveflux
    This is a great challenge, but i would argue what would be even more ridiculous, would bw to have an engine that is as inefficient as physically possible when using full throttle, but the second you step off it can hypermile better than a Prius.

    • @Honigball
      @Honigball 8 місяців тому

      holy shit. thats a good idea. Is that even possible?

  • @DorifutoRabbit
    @DorifutoRabbit 8 місяців тому

    I didn't know the front lip removal would be counted, that's interesting. I wonder if covering the rear arch (like a Honda Insight) would improve it further

  • @grifffin
    @grifffin 8 місяців тому +1

    I fuck w this series hard dude

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 8 місяців тому +1

    no reason for XL1 to exist when Prius exists

  • @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx
    @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx 8 місяців тому

    29:20 DE JA VU!!

  • @BrokeWrench
    @BrokeWrench 8 місяців тому +1

    I think the only improvement would come from fewer cylinders and more stroke at this point.

  • @fisshuman
    @fisshuman 8 місяців тому

    God damn this engine is burning less gas than every European car burning an oil😂

  • @nitroushusky4284
    @nitroushusky4284 7 місяців тому

    How do you have a different work shop in automation and you make some neet cars

  • @KimSeiji
    @KimSeiji 8 місяців тому

    Nice!! Use a electric or electric variable steering, it helps on the ecconomy. Try MPFI per cylinder, maybe help. VVT should help on fuel ecconomy too. Depends on the engine config, try tweeking VVL RPM to give moore power on higher RPMs, in the game it doesnt change the efficiency of the engine. I Just subscribed now to help you to reach 60K!!

  • @pabloo09
    @pabloo09 8 місяців тому

    29:24 1cm drift

  • @elios7623
    @elios7623 8 місяців тому +1

    spawn with broken wheels > drives anyways

  • @hotwheel8475
    @hotwheel8475 8 місяців тому

    i don’t know it anyone else mentioned this but maybe if you gave it more stroke/ more torque it would be better in a city setting

  • @DaysofKnight
    @DaysofKnight 8 місяців тому

    Amazing how these two games advertise to work together, yet there's a lot of non-functional parts from Automation that just get bugged the fuck out when put into BeamNG

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss 8 місяців тому

    Try this with a V16!

  • @themightyjill
    @themightyjill 8 місяців тому

    Hey, could you do a Pikes Peak spec Semi-Truck?
    Engine doesn't really matter, but the torque needs to be above 3k and have huge tyres.

  • @christophercaviness2984
    @christophercaviness2984 8 місяців тому +1

    Ive gotta try to make a car more efficient

  • @isaactrockman4417
    @isaactrockman4417 8 місяців тому +1

    Too bad there’s no cylinder deactivation

  • @mathias6369
    @mathias6369 8 місяців тому

    you seem to have to some options for engine parts im not seeing in my game, why is that?

  • @czech_r_bestjdi_se_vycpat5023
    @czech_r_bestjdi_se_vycpat5023 8 місяців тому +1

    First

  • @jimmydesouza4375
    @jimmydesouza4375 2 місяці тому

    11:35 This kind of reasoning is highly faulty because you do not know the rationale behind the decisions you are using to support your own conclusion. For example CVTs are highly unreliable and so force more work to be done, which means more after sale revenue for the manufacturer. Is this the reason for their popularity? No way of knowing. Additionally there's another serious problem with it in that those designers having made that decision does not always mean it is the best decision. Ideology, pet projects and things like that exist everywhere which can lead to the wrong decision being made intentionally and on top of that even experts are fallible and so their decision is not automatically correct.
    A nice realworld example from the automotive sector is the cab-over truck. Cab-over trucks are superior to conventional or "American style" trucks in quite literally every way. But some countries out of tradition or preference have stuck to conventional (mainly US and AU). You often see attempts made to justify it such as "conventional has better cooling/more cabin space/better crash safety/etc." but none of those are actually true and they're part of a dynamic where people will make a decision first and then justify it later.

  • @3803w
    @3803w 4 місяці тому

    oil companies are going to dissapear you for this lmao