I'm learning through daily roulettes, play tank if you wanna control the fights, healer if you wanna sit back away from the mobs and watch how things work and are going, and it seems DPS leads to absolute chaos where you are relying on a strange tank to run the dungeon, and hope the healer is on the ball. Love the content.. Thank you for being a creator
Yeah, as long as the tank has things in order, the healer can relax a lot. But once things go wrong, a lot of the work load lands on the healer! 😅 Thank you so much! 😄
I must admit even if I'm not tank it annoys me when others go and pull extra mobs, maybe the tanks new and learning or not fully geared and you may put them off from tanking
Hullbreaker is an odd one. There are two tentacles per platform that must be dealt with, and then two arms that come after. *ideally* you just go from platform to platform in order, however the green marker dropping a time bomb tornado makes things a little complicated. Plus the arms can randomly just grab anyone and throw them elsewhere. Which can be the tank and wastes so much time because those arms will follow the tank to the next platform. Also DPS will almost never remember to LB the final arm :')
Always feels nice to be able to shoot the breeze when a dungeon is going well and people are responsive. Feels great too when you see significant improvement in someone after you try to help. Kudos to that thamaturge!
Fun fact on the PUG/MNK jobstone thing: ffxiv DOES have a cloud save back up per character that i HIGHLY reccomend using. Its next to your character on the login screen, lil person with a gear wheel. Itll upload all your settings to cloud
Regarding hating Stone Vigil (Hard) and the turtle boss: it's not because it's a difficult boss or that it's hard to understand that I think the dungeon and that fight are hated by so many (including myself). It takes away so much of the sense of control you usually get from your job's toolkit, and this is especially true for tanks. Not just the turtle, but the entire dungeon. The first boss loves to wander the whole arena (and to do the mechs properly, the tank should *not* grab the adds, which goes against all common sense in dungeons), the final boss straight up ignores emnity altogether, and the mob pulls are broken up by things like Big Bertha cannons and those casters that immediately cast the long transformation spell instead of running after the tank. That dungeon is just downright awful.
That makes very good sense! I suppose I just hear about the turtle complaints so much I focused on that. But your summary makes it make a lot more sense!
Nope. This dungeon simply have too many uncommon mechanics. For example it is much easier to stun and kill those casters ASAP, because otherwise they will heal to full and become large threat to tank. And you could already meet them in Snowcloak.
@@serker3138 The problem isn't that they're new mechanics or that they're hard to solve. The problem is that the entire dungeon seems to be filled with mechanics that don't reward players for using their jobs the way they normally would.
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Another issue with the turtle is that it's so tanky that it is still a nuisance when running the dungeon unsynced at level 90 (such as for Zodiac relics).
The dungeon gives me flash backs to evrey vechile combat instance from wow and how much I loathe them (I didn't even play wrath when it was most relevant). But things like the opening of vault of the incarnate in that game where you're just sitting there spamming two buttons killing trash was genuinely so boring it's almost funny.
10:40 That wraith made me realize that Repose and Sleep can work as an interrupt in a pinch when I noticed my tank didn't try to interject it on the first cast I went for a repose when it started casting it a second time.
I wonder if the "Tempest mount glitch" is same you can get at "Western Thanalan ( 17.8 , 27.6 ) Z: 0.6". If you land inside the little ramparts, and push your mount against the walls, you trigger the landing/takeoff animation every frame, looks and sounds very funny on some mounts like the UFO, Miw Miisiv, Moon-hopper, Landerwaffle, etc. I've uploaded a clip of this glitch on my channel, if you'd like to check it out
For the UI, your personal settings can be uploaded to the FFXIV cloud servers in the "backup settings" when clicking the gear icon next to your characters name within the login screen. It's good to have a local backup too but the official server option is a great option if needing to swap between different PCs.
Love this series! Are Sage and Warrior your favorite healer and tank? Also wondering what your favorites are in the three DPS categories if you have any. Looking forward to more of this ^^
Most definitely to sage and warrior! 😊 For the dps roles, my preference for mage tends to swing between blm and SMN, although I always prefer SMN in harder content situations! For ranged physical, dancer, although I love how bard looks, I'm not that good at it! 😅 And for melee, it usually swings between samurai and reaper! 😊
Yeah, that's what I notice with this whole mentor thing. Roles can be vastly complicated to consider especially when playing a healer or tank who have more complicated roles to teach. On one hand, it's nice to be able to reliably get through something, but if you're carrying, that primarily can end up teaching the idea that other players may not be as responsible for the success. Healer is a role that naturally draws critique BECAUSE it has so much potential to carry. A healer should know how to get the most out of that, but sometimes that's a bit more complicated.
I have a hatred for stone vigil, not hard just normal stone vigil Every time i get stone vigil on lvling dungeon while on tank, i always seem to get the most toxic healers 1 example is they are just being mean in chat, but doing their job correctly The other example Went on dark, had a whm say at the start of the dungeon, "great, our tank is a fucking hrothgar, we are only doing small pulls, if you do not do a group at a time, you will not get healed", same healer, adamant that cure3 will keep the tank alive, healer had themself selected for cure3, and was off in narnia First boss that turns when doing swinge Healer died, complained during the entire fight that the tank(me) couldnt keep aggro I asked after the first boss "is there something you have against people who play dark knight, or people who play as hrothgar" Which they retaliated with "i dont have an issue with any tank or what race you play, i have an issue with bad tanks like you" The dps who were apparently her friends chimed in and said that i was doing good at tanking once the dungeon ended, i got 2 coms, and a report sent for that healer After that dungeon i sent a toxicity report, swapped to another game, got back on ff14, looked at contacts and noticed the healers name was gone
As a content creator, yeah it probably would be more "interesting" but don't ruin your sanity would be my advice. Having DONE 2000 MRs most of them on healer, it was much easier for me to just go into "screw this I'm going to carry" mode than to have to sit back and wish I could do something. If you're going to run on a DPS, I would recommend Summoner or RDM at least so you're not literally going "oh god I can do nothing but talk to try and help this" because that doesn't always work. Mass rezzing people on the other hand, yeah, yeah that works.
Thank you for the advice! I don't think I could deal with going mentor as a dps with no support options at all! Exactly because of what you described! 😂
It absolutely would! In fact, I had a previous set as SMN where we got somewhat stuck on Shiva ex partly because of the healer section needing a ton of help! 😅 I might swing back to trying dps again of course! But it would 100% give mistakes a chance to breath, even with something more utility focused like red mage!
About the fun fact: I love mechanics in old dungeons like this, sadly they do not use them since HW. Lone exception being the last pack trick in Qitana Ravel, but I do not think they made it by design. My favorite is Sunken Temple of Qarn. It is difficult to interrupt the Doom-inflicting ability of his with stun, because cast time is very short, but if you do - it will break the encounter and stop him from using Doom for rest of the fight, making the fight that much easier. Also stun Obliterate from second boss, your healer will thank you. Also stun the last boss in Hard version when he start chasing someone, because it is the only way to solve that mechanic without losing a team member. Also feel free to stun other bosses in other old dungeons tactically, it is useful. Also you can WALK past certain packs in Sunken Temple of Qarn without attracting them, but this is less useful because someone else won't do that anyway xD As for Stone Vigil - tank can evade tank busters from first and last bosses by walking through the boss right after cast begins, taking no damage. Hard to pull off too, my advice is to be as close to the boss' hitbox center as possible and just running forward when you see the boss cast bar.
The idea of walking past packs also becomes a truly lost art at higher levels because in some dungeons, you CAN run past, but the door won't open so no point! 😅 An example being the big wide open space before the final boss in the burn!
I kinda feel like summoner might be the way to go for these. You have the early rez in case wacky stuff happens, but otherwise can kinda sit back while the tank and healer do their thing, and just... slow your rotation a bit/type while walking between pulls, to type out a helpful message.
If your going to play tanks with the goal of not wanting to carry then I suggest staying away from Warrior. Warriors ability to solo virtually any pull/boss makes it less than desirable here.
That is a fair point! It is a difficult choice because sometimes having that power feels necessary, and sometimes it feels so excessive, although it's the same problem as a healer! 😅
omg, all their names are red! how do you differentiate them??? in my memory, the color distinction was vital for me in dungeon pulls, because I generally ignored the actual character model (unless I was watching for absentness) and relied on the nameplates in order to orient my aoe, healing, alongside the enmity table and party list.
I sometimes spam normal raid/trial roulette when I'm bored and everytime I see a ninaj do single target dotons I die a little inside because I don't know if I should approach them about it to help them with damage or keep my mouth shut because doing good damage doesn't really matter in normal raids/trial levels
I have seen multiple embarrassed ninjas in my comment sections realizing way way late that single target doton is wrong, but no one mentioned it. It is worth a try, but sometimes people don't want advice, and you can only know by trying. As I say, try and start with asking if you can give them a tip before just blurting it out! I know it sounds unnecessary and like a waste of time, but I feel it makes a huge difference! 😊
if youre looking for a wider variety of duties during the afternoon you should try dc traveling to light to do mentor roulette. i got memoria miseria with 7 mentors the other day as scholar. we didnt even last 10 minutes before disband 😭
That Samurai in the Stone Vigil run seems to have been running ahead to get boxes that groups often skip past. Could have been hoping for the dungeon-specific crafting material? IDK, but at 6:14 there was a sudden loot popup.
This is true, but they did do this running off thing at times where they weren't going off to side rooms as well! 😅 It was quite strange, and even if they were seeking out those chests, it's not like they couldn't have done so without running ahead! 😂
The Ishgardian Steel Ingot only drops from either the final boss chest or from the chest in the optional room to the right at the first fork. If he was looking for it in the side room, he wasn't gonna find it.
there's a minion in hullbreaker!?!? ... the amount of crap im learning from your mentor videos is insane xD i just finally got mentor unlocked (trying to figure out the one dungeon i was missing was such a pain in the ass...). and of course the first one i get is freakin prae msq x_x
Your first one being praetorium isn't the worst it could be, it could've been ten Under the Armor Guildhests in a row! xD I'm glad to hear that you learn so much from these videos! Thank you! :D
The last time I landed in Hullbreaker Isle, there was something wonky going on with the tentacles, too. We had one that just kept making itself untargetable and moving between platforms seemingly randomly. I'd never had it be a problem before but we couldn't figure out how to get it to stop for several minutes that time!
Someone else mentioned that it is possible it had decided to chase someone specific, and for some weird reason kept tracing one step behind so what MIGHT have worked, would to just stay put on a single platform or something 😅 yeah I don't know, it is certainly a weird fight!
Yeah, that's what we did, we all lumped together on the platform next to the head and just waited. Someone in the group was like "is this bugged out? where is it?" eventually the last one finally came out and we escaped the duty xD
If the queue times are manageable at the time, dps seems optimal for playing as a mentor because you can coach people in all three roles and have the least ability to just carry the group, particularly if you don’t have a res.
That is a good point! It is a difficult choice to make, because if you have no ability to carry whatsoever, then you can really get stuck sometimes if you land in a group where they really need the help! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh very true of course! And it’s no fun to be in that situation, but it does make for entertaining content to watch! This has been a fun series and no question you are helping a great many people with your extensive knowledge of the game.
Really glad to see you putting out more mentor vids! Would be nice to see you as tank again next time^^ Recently I was in Mt. Gulg as mentor and the red mage didn’t understand their toolkut at all. They were a first timer too. Explained it to them and they were happy with the advice but the dungeon must have been stressful to them cause soon they fell into old habbits such as hardcasting impact. So at the end of the dungeon we had a small talk, added them as friend and recommended your red mage guide to them :)
A Samurai just standing. I just recently had a similar experience in normal raid roulette. P10. I had a SCH and SGE as healers, and a couple of first timers. We wiped on the first pull, and on the second pull, the SCH just stood there doing absolutely NOTHING! And even on the first pull the SCH did very poorly (didn't even have the fairy on). I don't know if he just went afk, or if he was trolling, but we practically had only the SGE as a healer. Eventually, the SCH was ejected for 10 mins of inactivity, and we got WHM to finish the duty. I blacklisted the SCH right away. I'm not risking that a second time. BTW, I loved the Heinz Doofenshmirtz impression.
That's a very strange scholar. Although maybe something happened so they had to run immediately, but if they played extremely poorly from the start, perhaps not. 😅 Thank you so much! 😁😁
Honestly I've always found it a lot more fulfilling to be tanking a duty that just keeps wiping rather than healing. Being on tank means I'm almost always one of the last people alive (along with the other tank if there is one) and it often gives me the chance to show everyone mechanics and explain them while they're on the ground before a stack or buster gets me.
I can absolutely see the benefit in that! Personally the key difference I've noticed is how impactful a tank is when the group is staying alive, and how impactful a healer is when the group... Isn't good at staying alive! 😅 If that makes sense!
I hate the turtle because that duty basically only ever comes up when someone is new, and its very Rage that someone shoots adds on other players instead of just the boss... and continuing to shoot the boss with diamondback.
Really love these mentor roulette videos and glad that it sounds like this is becoming its own series of videos! It’s really interesting and insightful to listen about experiences in duties through a mentor’s pov. If not just entertaining to see random shenanigans like that wandering samurai lol.
I once had a run of Stone Vigil (Hard)... with an Arcanist who wasn't aware that they had class/job quests after level 30. It was an experience that hopefully won't need to repeat...
Oh dear... I wonder how they came to that conclusion 😣 I am reasonably sure it still showed they had a class / job quest waiting for them, showing under the msq thing!
I expect one day to see my character on this video series and get shit on. I rotate between the Dark Knight and the Blood Death Knight in WoW. I'll forget to turn my tank stance on a good chunk of the time. It will be very interesting.
Hopefully not! Besides, forgetting your tank stance is such a normal thing! ^^ I think the real problem will be if you react angrily to being reminded! :D
I really enjoy these mentor videos! They help me fix potential mistakes I'm making while also letting me know how best to approach helping newer players. I've helped a couple sprouts in duties recently and they seem genuinely excited to receive the help, especially when you give recognition to what they do well before moving on to how to improve. Keep up the good work, and I can't wait to see you play tank for these. I think if you want a real challenge in the future, play as a MCH.
I'm glad to hear that! It is a very different way to learn but I suppose seeing the "real combat" perspective can help a ton! That is an interesting suggestion! I remember ages ago that I had a discussion with someone who already had 2000 mentor roulettes done, who claimed mch was one of the best options, due to their consistent dps at different levels 😅 although my perspective was that you are so so helpless in terms of utility and healing! 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Huh, that is an interesting take from them, I'd definitely assume being unable to help with healing or raising would be a distinct disadvantage, though I suppose the shorter kill times may compensate for *some* deficiencies. I'm currently returning to the game after having left after EW MSQ 2 years ago, Anam shaking off the rust while leveling all classes to 90 in preparation for DT. Its definitely given me a better perspective on different classes, though it's also easy to forget some things when you are switching between all 5 roles regularly.
@jin11779933 yeah I had a similar perspective, that the mentor roulette pretty much never puts you in situations where damage output is the problem! But tanking and healing being right seems to be a bigger deal!😅 Welcome back to the game! I hope you enjoy your time!
2:49 Shisui of Violet Tides is not an MSQ Dungeon, its needed for the air currents but not to actually finish Stormblood. Also a good chance they bought a level skip.
That SAM was on a sightseeing tour, clearly.
Haha! "What's over here! Oh that? They are my guards"
Lmao
Nah, he's just looking for Aslan.
I'm learning through daily roulettes, play tank if you wanna control the fights, healer if you wanna sit back away from the mobs and watch how things work and are going, and it seems DPS leads to absolute chaos where you are relying on a strange tank to run the dungeon, and hope the healer is on the ball. Love the content.. Thank you for being a creator
Yeah, as long as the tank has things in order, the healer can relax a lot. But once things go wrong, a lot of the work load lands on the healer! 😅
Thank you so much! 😄
@@CaetsuChaijiCh most definitely …. That’s when I start pulling out my hair as a healer. Hahahaha.
I must admit even if I'm not tank it annoys me when others go and pull extra mobs, maybe the tanks new and learning or not fully geared and you may put them off from tanking
Yeah I get that feeling! If the tank is having a hard time it certainly doesn't make it easier!
Hullbreaker is an odd one. There are two tentacles per platform that must be dealt with, and then two arms that come after.
*ideally* you just go from platform to platform in order, however the green marker dropping a time bomb tornado makes things a little complicated. Plus the arms can randomly just grab anyone and throw them elsewhere. Which can be the tank and wastes so much time because those arms will follow the tank to the next platform.
Also DPS will almost never remember to LB the final arm :')
Oooh yeah perhaps that's what happened, that it was chasing the tank around! 😅
Always feels nice to be able to shoot the breeze when a dungeon is going well and people are responsive. Feels great too when you see significant improvement in someone after you try to help. Kudos to that thamaturge!
Absolutely! I'd rather have a slightly slower run where we just have fun with it! As long as we have fun! 😁
Fun fact on the PUG/MNK jobstone thing: ffxiv DOES have a cloud save back up per character that i HIGHLY reccomend using. Its next to your character on the login screen, lil person with a gear wheel. Itll upload all your settings to cloud
Regarding hating Stone Vigil (Hard) and the turtle boss: it's not because it's a difficult boss or that it's hard to understand that I think the dungeon and that fight are hated by so many (including myself). It takes away so much of the sense of control you usually get from your job's toolkit, and this is especially true for tanks. Not just the turtle, but the entire dungeon. The first boss loves to wander the whole arena (and to do the mechs properly, the tank should *not* grab the adds, which goes against all common sense in dungeons), the final boss straight up ignores emnity altogether, and the mob pulls are broken up by things like Big Bertha cannons and those casters that immediately cast the long transformation spell instead of running after the tank. That dungeon is just downright awful.
That makes very good sense! I suppose I just hear about the turtle complaints so much I focused on that. But your summary makes it make a lot more sense!
Nope. This dungeon simply have too many uncommon mechanics. For example it is much easier to stun and kill those casters ASAP, because otherwise they will heal to full and become large threat to tank. And you could already meet them in Snowcloak.
@@serker3138 The problem isn't that they're new mechanics or that they're hard to solve. The problem is that the entire dungeon seems to be filled with mechanics that don't reward players for using their jobs the way they normally would.
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Another issue with the turtle is that it's so tanky that it is still a nuisance when running the dungeon unsynced at level 90 (such as for Zodiac relics).
The dungeon gives me flash backs to evrey vechile combat instance from wow and how much I loathe them (I didn't even play wrath when it was most relevant). But things like the opening of vault of the incarnate in that game where you're just sitting there spamming two buttons killing trash was genuinely so boring it's almost funny.
10:40 That wraith made me realize that Repose and Sleep can work as an interrupt in a pinch when I noticed my tank didn't try to interject it on the first cast I went for a repose when it started casting it a second time.
That is a good idea yes! 😊
It's even more effective as a back up solution if you pair it with swift cast!
That "oops we have a pugilist" sent me 😂😂😂
I wonder if the "Tempest mount glitch" is same you can get at "Western Thanalan ( 17.8 , 27.6 ) Z: 0.6". If you land inside the little ramparts, and push your mount against the walls, you trigger the landing/takeoff animation every frame, looks and sounds very funny on some mounts like the UFO, Miw Miisiv, Moon-hopper, Landerwaffle, etc.
I've uploaded a clip of this glitch on my channel, if you'd like to check it out
That could well be it yeah! That is quite funny! Thank you!
For the UI, your personal settings can be uploaded to the FFXIV cloud servers in the "backup settings" when clicking the gear icon next to your characters name within the login screen. It's good to have a local backup too but the official server option is a great option if needing to swap between different PCs.
That is a pretty good tip yes! Thank you for sharing it! 😄
tank , but rotate the four tanks after every duty.
That is a pretty good idea! The same could work with the healers I suppose! ^^
Love this series! Are Sage and Warrior your favorite healer and tank? Also wondering what your favorites are in the three DPS categories if you have any. Looking forward to more of this ^^
Most definitely to sage and warrior! 😊
For the dps roles, my preference for mage tends to swing between blm and SMN, although I always prefer SMN in harder content situations! For ranged physical, dancer, although I love how bard looks, I'm not that good at it! 😅 And for melee, it usually swings between samurai and reaper! 😊
Yeah, that's what I notice with this whole mentor thing. Roles can be vastly complicated to consider especially when playing a healer or tank who have more complicated roles to teach. On one hand, it's nice to be able to reliably get through something, but if you're carrying, that primarily can end up teaching the idea that other players may not be as responsible for the success. Healer is a role that naturally draws critique BECAUSE it has so much potential to carry. A healer should know how to get the most out of that, but sometimes that's a bit more complicated.
I have a hatred for stone vigil, not hard just normal stone vigil
Every time i get stone vigil on lvling dungeon while on tank, i always seem to get the most toxic healers
1 example is they are just being mean in chat, but doing their job correctly
The other example
Went on dark, had a whm say at the start of the dungeon, "great, our tank is a fucking hrothgar, we are only doing small pulls, if you do not do a group at a time, you will not get healed", same healer, adamant that cure3 will keep the tank alive, healer had themself selected for cure3, and was off in narnia
First boss that turns when doing swinge
Healer died, complained during the entire fight that the tank(me) couldnt keep aggro
I asked after the first boss "is there something you have against people who play dark knight, or people who play as hrothgar"
Which they retaliated with "i dont have an issue with any tank or what race you play, i have an issue with bad tanks like you"
The dps who were apparently her friends chimed in and said that i was doing good at tanking once the dungeon ended, i got 2 coms, and a report sent for that healer
After that dungeon i sent a toxicity report, swapped to another game, got back on ff14, looked at contacts and noticed the healers name was gone
That cure 3 healer was absurd 😔
Honestly I am a bit shocked their friends didn't tell them off or say anything helpful until AFTER the duty was over 😣
As a content creator, yeah it probably would be more "interesting" but don't ruin your sanity would be my advice. Having DONE 2000 MRs most of them on healer, it was much easier for me to just go into "screw this I'm going to carry" mode than to have to sit back and wish I could do something. If you're going to run on a DPS, I would recommend Summoner or RDM at least so you're not literally going "oh god I can do nothing but talk to try and help this" because that doesn't always work.
Mass rezzing people on the other hand, yeah, yeah that works.
Thank you for the advice! I don't think I could deal with going mentor as a dps with no support options at all! Exactly because of what you described! 😂
If l am ever doing 506070,l am cheesing it.
Another great video, would playing a dps allow more mistakes the breath? especially between a matched tank and healer.
It absolutely would! In fact, I had a previous set as SMN where we got somewhat stuck on Shiva ex partly because of the healer section needing a ton of help! 😅 I might swing back to trying dps again of course! But it would 100% give mistakes a chance to breath, even with something more utility focused like red mage!
Hehe love mentor roulette vids
I'm glad to hear that! :D
About the fun fact: I love mechanics in old dungeons like this, sadly they do not use them since HW. Lone exception being the last pack trick in Qitana Ravel, but I do not think they made it by design.
My favorite is Sunken Temple of Qarn. It is difficult to interrupt the Doom-inflicting ability of his with stun, because cast time is very short, but if you do - it will break the encounter and stop him from using Doom for rest of the fight, making the fight that much easier. Also stun Obliterate from second boss, your healer will thank you. Also stun the last boss in Hard version when he start chasing someone, because it is the only way to solve that mechanic without losing a team member. Also feel free to stun other bosses in other old dungeons tactically, it is useful. Also you can WALK past certain packs in Sunken Temple of Qarn without attracting them, but this is less useful because someone else won't do that anyway xD
As for Stone Vigil - tank can evade tank busters from first and last bosses by walking through the boss right after cast begins, taking no damage. Hard to pull off too, my advice is to be as close to the boss' hitbox center as possible and just running forward when you see the boss cast bar.
The qarn boss will absolutely cast doom a second time if interrupted, its just rng how fast he tries again.
The idea of walking past packs also becomes a truly lost art at higher levels because in some dungeons, you CAN run past, but the door won't open so no point! 😅
An example being the big wide open space before the final boss in the burn!
I kinda feel like summoner might be the way to go for these. You have the early rez in case wacky stuff happens, but otherwise can kinda sit back while the tank and healer do their thing, and just... slow your rotation a bit/type while walking between pulls, to type out a helpful message.
That makes sense. Summoner having a relatively simple rotation also gives better space to just do what needs to be done in those situations I suppose!
If your going to play tanks with the goal of not wanting to carry then I suggest staying away from Warrior. Warriors ability to solo virtually any pull/boss makes it less than desirable here.
That is a fair point! It is a difficult choice because sometimes having that power feels necessary, and sometimes it feels so excessive, although it's the same problem as a healer! 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Yea the two suppose roles definitely fill a "make or break" niche that you can't really do as a DPS.
Standing in the way of tornados against Koschei is wild to me. I’ll never understand it. Even real world logic applies here: tornado bad.
I know right? 😂 Especially if you already got hit once!
omg, all their names are red! how do you differentiate them??? in my memory, the color distinction was vital for me in dungeon pulls, because I generally ignored the actual character model (unless I was watching for absentness) and relied on the nameplates in order to orient my aoe, healing, alongside the enmity table and party list.
The dps players have a slightly different red from enemies! 😁
I sometimes spam normal raid/trial roulette when I'm bored and everytime I see a ninaj do single target dotons I die a little inside because I don't know if I should approach them about it to help them with damage or keep my mouth shut because doing good damage doesn't really matter in normal raids/trial levels
I have seen multiple embarrassed ninjas in my comment sections realizing way way late that single target doton is wrong, but no one mentioned it. It is worth a try, but sometimes people don't want advice, and you can only know by trying. As I say, try and start with asking if you can give them a tip before just blurting it out! I know it sounds unnecessary and like a waste of time, but I feel it makes a huge difference! 😊
if youre looking for a wider variety of duties during the afternoon you should try dc traveling to light to do mentor roulette. i got memoria miseria with 7 mentors the other day as scholar. we didnt even last 10 minutes before disband 😭
Wow, I would never had expected anyone to queue for something like that 😖
sam boy just going for the loot.
That Samurai in the Stone Vigil run seems to have been running ahead to get boxes that groups often skip past. Could have been hoping for the dungeon-specific crafting material? IDK, but at 6:14 there was a sudden loot popup.
This is true, but they did do this running off thing at times where they weren't going off to side rooms as well! 😅 It was quite strange, and even if they were seeking out those chests, it's not like they couldn't have done so without running ahead! 😂
The Ishgardian Steel Ingot only drops from either the final boss chest or from the chest in the optional room to the right at the first fork. If he was looking for it in the side room, he wasn't gonna find it.
there's a minion in hullbreaker!?!? ... the amount of crap im learning from your mentor videos is insane xD i just finally got mentor unlocked (trying to figure out the one dungeon i was missing was such a pain in the ass...). and of course the first one i get is freakin prae msq x_x
Your first one being praetorium isn't the worst it could be, it could've been ten Under the Armor Guildhests in a row! xD
I'm glad to hear that you learn so much from these videos! Thank you! :D
@CaetsuChaijiCh LOL honestly when I spawned into a guildhest I was so confused where I was cause I forgot they even existed.
I love these videos, it’s something i have never really seen any other 14 creators do so it’s unique.
I'm really glad to hear that! Thank you! 😄
6:30 I wouldn't be shocked if they got a story skip to 50 to get straight to samurai and then had no real idea what they were doing at all.
That's an option I had never considered! But it is certainly possible!
The last time I landed in Hullbreaker Isle, there was something wonky going on with the tentacles, too. We had one that just kept making itself untargetable and moving between platforms seemingly randomly. I'd never had it be a problem before but we couldn't figure out how to get it to stop for several minutes that time!
Someone else mentioned that it is possible it had decided to chase someone specific, and for some weird reason kept tracing one step behind so what MIGHT have worked, would to just stay put on a single platform or something 😅 yeah I don't know, it is certainly a weird fight!
Yeah, that's what we did, we all lumped together on the platform next to the head and just waited. Someone in the group was like "is this bugged out? where is it?" eventually the last one finally came out and we escaped the duty xD
I wonder if i've shown up in one of these.. Maybe not though, only ran into one mentor before.
That is surprising! But if you are on the chaos data center, you might eventually run into me, I do stand out! 😂
If the queue times are manageable at the time, dps seems optimal for playing as a mentor because you can coach people in all three roles and have the least ability to just carry the group, particularly if you don’t have a res.
That is a good point! It is a difficult choice to make, because if you have no ability to carry whatsoever, then you can really get stuck sometimes if you land in a group where they really need the help! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh very true of course! And it’s no fun to be in that situation, but it does make for entertaining content to watch! This has been a fun series and no question you are helping a great many people with your extensive knowledge of the game.
Really glad to see you putting out more mentor vids! Would be nice to see you as tank again next time^^
Recently I was in Mt. Gulg as mentor and the red mage didn’t understand their toolkut at all. They were a first timer too. Explained it to them and they were happy with the advice but the dungeon must have been stressful to them cause soon they fell into old habbits such as hardcasting impact. So at the end of the dungeon we had a small talk, added them as friend and recommended your red mage guide to them :)
Oh yeah mt. Gulg does not sound like the dungeon to learn how to red mage! 😅
Sounds like they got a good teacher they can rely on though! 😊
Thank you!
A Samurai just standing. I just recently had a similar experience in normal raid roulette. P10. I had a SCH and SGE as healers, and a couple of first timers. We wiped on the first pull, and on the second pull, the SCH just stood there doing absolutely NOTHING! And even on the first pull the SCH did very poorly (didn't even have the fairy on). I don't know if he just went afk, or if he was trolling, but we practically had only the SGE as a healer. Eventually, the SCH was ejected for 10 mins of inactivity, and we got WHM to finish the duty. I blacklisted the SCH right away. I'm not risking that a second time.
BTW, I loved the Heinz Doofenshmirtz impression.
That's a very strange scholar. Although maybe something happened so they had to run immediately, but if they played extremely poorly from the start, perhaps not. 😅
Thank you so much! 😁😁
Honestly I've always found it a lot more fulfilling to be tanking a duty that just keeps wiping rather than healing. Being on tank means I'm almost always one of the last people alive (along with the other tank if there is one) and it often gives me the chance to show everyone mechanics and explain them while they're on the ground before a stack or buster gets me.
I can absolutely see the benefit in that! Personally the key difference I've noticed is how impactful a tank is when the group is staying alive, and how impactful a healer is when the group... Isn't good at staying alive! 😅 If that makes sense!
I hate the turtle because that duty basically only ever comes up when someone is new, and its very Rage that someone shoots adds on other players instead of just the boss... and continuing to shoot the boss with diamondback.
Yeah that's understandable 😅
Especially if too many players do that nonsense and then you wipe!
Really love these mentor roulette videos and glad that it sounds like this is becoming its own series of videos! It’s really interesting and insightful to listen about experiences in duties through a mentor’s pov. If not just entertaining to see random shenanigans like that wandering samurai lol.
I'm glad to hear that! 😄
And yeah on the one hand it can make a duty harder with players like that, on the other hand... It's really silly! 😂
I once had a run of Stone Vigil (Hard)... with an Arcanist who wasn't aware that they had class/job quests after level 30. It was an experience that hopefully won't need to repeat...
Oh dear... I wonder how they came to that conclusion 😣 I am reasonably sure it still showed they had a class / job quest waiting for them, showing under the msq thing!
@@CaetsuChaijiChI'm sure they heard "focus on the new" from somewhere and took that too far
I expect one day to see my character on this video series and get shit on. I rotate between the Dark Knight and the Blood Death Knight in WoW. I'll forget to turn my tank stance on a good chunk of the time. It will be very interesting.
Hopefully not! Besides, forgetting your tank stance is such a normal thing! ^^ I think the real problem will be if you react angrily to being reminded! :D
I really enjoy these mentor videos! They help me fix potential mistakes I'm making while also letting me know how best to approach helping newer players. I've helped a couple sprouts in duties recently and they seem genuinely excited to receive the help, especially when you give recognition to what they do well before moving on to how to improve.
Keep up the good work, and I can't wait to see you play tank for these. I think if you want a real challenge in the future, play as a MCH.
I'm glad to hear that! It is a very different way to learn but I suppose seeing the "real combat" perspective can help a ton!
That is an interesting suggestion! I remember ages ago that I had a discussion with someone who already had 2000 mentor roulettes done, who claimed mch was one of the best options, due to their consistent dps at different levels 😅 although my perspective was that you are so so helpless in terms of utility and healing! 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Huh, that is an interesting take from them, I'd definitely assume being unable to help with healing or raising would be a distinct disadvantage, though I suppose the shorter kill times may compensate for *some* deficiencies.
I'm currently returning to the game after having left after EW MSQ 2 years ago, Anam shaking off the rust while leveling all classes to 90 in preparation for DT. Its definitely given me a better perspective on different classes, though it's also easy to forget some things when you are switching between all 5 roles regularly.
@jin11779933 yeah I had a similar perspective, that the mentor roulette pretty much never puts you in situations where damage output is the problem! But tanking and healing being right seems to be a bigger deal!😅
Welcome back to the game! I hope you enjoy your time!
holy crap that members wall me and koko are working overtime
The Hyper Cultists! :D I am looking into if there is a better way to show everyone so it isn't just a list of tiny unreadable names eventually! ^^
@CaetsuChaijiCh You could make it so it's multiple slides with fewer names. Or have one big list that scrolls by.
I tried to tell a sprout about single target Doton XD
At least you tried! We must defeat this single target doton epidemic!
2:49 Shisui of Violet Tides is not an MSQ Dungeon, its needed for the air currents but not to actually finish Stormblood. Also a good chance they bought a level skip.
Indeed the dungeon is optional, so it is also very possible they simply didn't need or cared to get flying in the ruby sea until then! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh I for one am a Chocobo/Falcon/Amaro Porter Enjoyer
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