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КОМЕНТАРІ • 2,9 тис.

  • @FLAIR.
    @FLAIR.  4 місяці тому +173

    Give your girlfriend Banjo’s meat for Valentines Day - beefcakejerky.com

    • @Parkerwright44
      @Parkerwright44 4 місяці тому +14

      Pause

    • @omihurst
      @omihurst 4 місяці тому +1

      Stop nobody is making a decision but you, this channel is dead, keep selling jerky with Amish banjo.

    • @seanquinn1339
      @seanquinn1339 4 місяці тому +3

      Great video

    • @mr.rubber_duck
      @mr.rubber_duck 4 місяці тому +1

      I'd use the liner based on what I know now

    • @billygriffiths2517
      @billygriffiths2517 4 місяці тому

      Can you do some chicken jerky

  • @loganreesman7579
    @loganreesman7579 4 місяці тому +195

    Bentonite and clay 100%. The warranty sounds good but with the clay and bentonite there’s better natural filtration for the water, it will be easier and less stress for putting in structure and don’t have to worry about getting snags or tear every so often in the liner. Companies can claim there will be no toxicity from the liner but there has to be some sort of it after so many years of still sitting water.

    • @wravy6008
      @wravy6008 4 місяці тому +1

      They can just cover the liner with sand/ rocks/ gravel. That will help prevent the chances of snagging it while fishing and putting a rip in it.

  • @TheWoodedBeardsman
    @TheWoodedBeardsman 4 місяці тому +203

    If you line it, you'll want to cover the lining - preferably with rocks, gravel, etc. that will hold the liner down (stop if floating up), and will protect it for life. You will need a lot of rock/stone, but it will make a natural looking pond. I made one like this on my channel....I would still go with the clay and bentonite though. You'll do it right, and you won't scrimp on cost, and it will be a much better product long term. Just don't cut any corners while you do it.

    • @captemcole3100
      @captemcole3100 4 місяці тому +1

      With the pressure of the water it will stay down

    • @mattphillips6578
      @mattphillips6578 4 місяці тому +4

      Flair listen to this legend!!! He’s the best around!!

    • @ReformingtheOutdoors
      @ReformingtheOutdoors 4 місяці тому +1

      This, all of this.

    • @heatherd.9390
      @heatherd.9390 4 місяці тому

      I think the weight of the water would hold the liner in place, wouldn't it? I guess the company would know how/what to do. The one benefit of using the liner over the bentonite/clay is that if it does start to leak, someone who knows what they're doing will come and repair it, which I bet would involve learning where the leak is, etc. For the record, my initial vote was for the bentonite and clay too, but there were a few tidbits (like them coming to repair it for 25 years) that we didn't know last time. That's a pretty big perk in the long run.
      Plus after many years, even if he decided to remove the liner one day, I'd like to think that with the weight of the water on the soil, etc. may have helped compact the soil underneath to help seal it? I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud, haha.

    • @GAVINHIGHTOWER
      @GAVINHIGHTOWER 3 місяці тому

      Yes

  • @trippinoutdoors
    @trippinoutdoors 4 місяці тому +44

    Glad to see everyone form a united front for Clay and Bentonite. The natural way is definitley the way to go. There is no guarantee that a company will adhere to it's own warranty anyway, as usual most will try to find anything they can to either deny coverage at the point of issue, or, outright void it. And of course, warranties are limited in terms of time. Plus, there really is more overall cons and potential issues with liners than natural use of bentonite. The pond will also be far healthier and more balanced in ecosystem in the long haul if it's kept natural. Over time the ecosystem in it will find a equilibrium meaning maintenance will become minimized.
    So Clay and Bentonite all the way! Even if it costs more overall in the beginning, it will be more than worth it years down the road.

    • @troybrooks2066
      @troybrooks2066 4 місяці тому +3

      They’re gonna use a liner! 🤣🤣 💯

    • @trippinoutdoors
      @trippinoutdoors 4 місяці тому

      @@troybrooks2066 Oh they probably will despite everyone in the comments experienced and not saying otherwise 😂 I think their own united front of Bonzo and Jake probably will sway Flair more than us. Especially since Flair is squirrelly with upfront pricing.

  • @haydenfarms2120
    @haydenfarms2120 4 місяці тому +38

    Just my 2 cents worth is eventually you will need to dredge the pond out in certain areas to keep your depth you want and if you put a liner you risk having to have a whole new liner every time you dredge an area. In my opinion a liner would be more of a pain then bentite

    • @JonP_4-31inf
      @JonP_4-31inf 4 місяці тому

      A liner is a terrible idea for sure.

  • @bowhunterlkorion1630
    @bowhunterlkorion1630 4 місяці тому +398

    Natural ponds are way better, liners are fine but you have muskrats, snapping turtles that will damage the liner. Rotting material will create methane pockets that will create Big pimples in the liner and they will eventually pop and it sucks when it's in the middle of the pond. My suggestion is spend on extra bentonite and re-layer with dirt and sheeps foot the crap out of it. I've done many ponds and for the most part, the ones that did put in liners aren't over whelmingly happy with the out come... Clay is the ticket but it is pretty expensive ...just my 2 cents

  • @Tyler14S22
    @Tyler14S22 4 місяці тому +22

    I’m on the clay and bentonite train. If I heard correctly one of those ponds was packed tightly with all sorts of equipment. While the other one that leaks wasn’t packed as tightly.

  • @cavalierguy1
    @cavalierguy1 4 місяці тому +12

    I’m for the Bentonite and Clay. Just something about it being more natural than a thick liner.
    Do these liners expand and contract with the different temperatures? Considering where you’re at you have a pretty wide range of temperatures….especially in the winter. Just a thought.

  • @connormccann5482
    @connormccann5482 4 місяці тому +14

    Thing with clay if you have a leak you can fix it when its still full, where as liner if it leaked you have to drain thr pond to get to it to fix it.

  • @JohnOnAB
    @JohnOnAB 4 місяці тому +107

    Clay and bentonite, based on the other ponds sounds pretty straight forward that clay and bentonite would be fool proof considering both has little to no leaks without clay and the one that doesn't leak was even mixed with the same soil your working with, seems obvious to go with something that's easier for you to add structure too without the stress of it causing a leak later on and having to find it

  • @landenthorpe1876
    @landenthorpe1876 4 місяці тому +117

    I think the bentonite is the way to go. I think its way more natural and it sounds like if you do it professionally it will be foolproof. Think about the pond in 30 years I have a feeling the rubber will wear out and by then it will be out of warranty. The bentonite will create a better environment for fishing, boating, and just messing around on it.

    • @Something-Somes
      @Something-Somes 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah...liners have more limitations. I use to build pools and ponds for exotic animal enclosures and I seen it all. The only way I would use a liner is if it was a concrete pool/pond and those are not even rubber...its more like epoxy/resin that is sprayed on.

  • @alfredwallace4975
    @alfredwallace4975 4 місяці тому +5

    4 ponds is a tiny sample, so banjo and jake saying 100% of the liner ponds don't leak and 50% of the clay ponds leak doesnt really mean anything especially since it sounds like the clay pond that leaks could have neen made to not leak if the right steps were taken. I dont have any experience or data to support one or the other but i just cant get on board with putting a huge piece of plastic or rubber or whatever in the ground to make a pond. Maybe the liner will last a long time but maybe it wont and if it doesn't, its going to be a major PITA to dig out and replace or even just dig out and dispose of if you don't want it anymore. Sure, you can apparently repair a liner but you can also repair a clay lined pond. The earth has enough trash and plastic buried in it without us intentionally adding to it.

  • @jchall6420
    @jchall6420 4 місяці тому +5

    Flair you should do bentonite. Then if you decide you want to tweak little things like expand a shelf or have a spawning gulf you can add soil to it without having to peel back the liner and stuff dirt under it.

  • @Darealdooley
    @Darealdooley 4 місяці тому +3295

    Every like I’ll do a push up

  • @j.j.clingman4083
    @j.j.clingman4083 4 місяці тому +55

    Bentenite, Clay, and big roller for sure!!! I have seen pond dams where a muskrat dug out around the overflow tube and started leaking and was definitely fixed with just bentenite and have had no issues since!!! Now if you have a liner and an animal pokes holes in it is it still covered under warranty or not??? I definitely say bentenite and clay and make it at least 15’ to 20’ deep and you won’t have any issues!!! I did say something about the more water would help put more weight down helping it to not leak way back in one of your first videos!!! The pond guy I no had told me about that and with the bentenite and clay packed in and being deep enough that he would definitely guarantee it to not leak but it would have to be with the correct clay also!!

  • @flamezpark
    @flamezpark 4 місяці тому +6

    I'm with most on the bentonite train mainly because of having watched the last few years of pond "antics".... the structure adding, random challenges that would make osha faint and the possibility of a random stray from a hunt or target practice not to mention hooks or fish with teeth going after prey on the bottom

    • @knowledgetome614
      @knowledgetome614 3 місяці тому

      Two things water greatly slows down projectiles and the earth and gravel on top of the liner will protect it as well.
      There is a mesh shield that you can get seeded with wire that will protect the pond from most things.
      The only real difference is margin of error, clay ect has a large margin for error compared to a liner. What people don't seem to understand is you can pack stuff on top of a liner to keep it natural and safe, in fact it's hardier than without.

  • @Gary87
    @Gary87 4 місяці тому +3

    Personally I would go with clay and betonite, pack it properly. Then add the contouring and Islands etc. you can also add natural vegetation to help with oxygenation etc.

  • @RealSportsClips1
    @RealSportsClips1 4 місяці тому +44

    Clay and bentonite is better for farm ponds and lasts forever. Rubber liners are better for garden ponds, but don’t last as long like 10- 20 years. In my opinion I would go with the bentonite and clay or just bentonite.

  • @roadrashr6
    @roadrashr6 4 місяці тому +76

    Can you put structure on liner? The betonite seems of a more natural way to go. Add structure and rock to betonite.

  • @TheSir2005
    @TheSir2005 4 місяці тому +3

    Drive a small sheepsfoot roller in that thing, play a little nascar and go around and around. Doensnt need to be perfect, its just preparation. Bring in bentonite and clay, mix it with bottom soil and play nascar again with a bigger sheepsfoot roller. That thing will never leak, simple to do, Beefcake construction can even do it.

  • @brodycampbell2990
    @brodycampbell2990 4 місяці тому +3

    Bentonite to work properly needs to be worked into existing soil such as tilled then compacted with sheep foot roller. If doing clay lined only it needs to be at least 2’ deep and sheep foot rolled. It’ll be good to go!
    Liner you have no vegetation growing. I like more natural looking pond bottoms

  • @kurse333
    @kurse333 4 місяці тому +73

    I'm a fellow Nebraskan in eastern Saline county. I have a roughly 2 acre pond on my 40 acre square and although mine was an old pond that we dug out and always held water, after we dug it out to increase and expand we did spread a few trailer loads of vermiculite, yes vermiculite, and we just drove on it with our trucks to pack it in (cause we did that after all the big equipment was gone or wed have had them track in it with their dozer). You have to keep in mind that once there is water in there and the soil becomes conditioned to holding water (could take some time) it will also silt in and add to the whole sealing effect naturally... Also should you go the Bentonite method you can slurry or float vermiculite to help seal leaks, it will float at first but once it becomes water logged it will sink and naturally settle where any leaks may show up.
    In short, natural ponds all the way.!..

  • @jake28061
    @jake28061 4 місяці тому +38

    Just a quick note, you can get Bentonite rolls that are made out of Bentonite and sandwiched in between rolls of fiberglass woven material so you roll it down like a pond liner then you cover it up with sand you can do anything you want with it we use it on the landfills to keep water in its place once it's down it lasts forever

  • @zacharylong3910
    @zacharylong3910 4 місяці тому +3

    The thing with a liner is that once you seal the bottom it acts like an aquarium. You have to run bubbles to keep the surface moving for gas exchange. If you don't gas will build up from waste and you'll have a fish kill. Plus no ice fishing. Natural is better is everyway.

  • @maustank8864
    @maustank8864 4 місяці тому +4

    The inch a day is probably evaporation from waves. Probably from the aeration system.

  • @Theprofessor72
    @Theprofessor72 4 місяці тому +34

    Both will hold water and can be installed on large ponds. The difference is that Bentonite can self-heal and expand around the small gaps and crevices in the soil, meaning that you don't need to worry if the machinery runs over the liner or plants and roots pierce the pond bottom

    • @cadenbrock6149
      @cadenbrock6149 4 місяці тому

      Plants and roots aren’t going to pierce a liner they are insanely thick most even have fiberglass woven in they are both good options but I think a high end liner is gonna be a safer long term bet especially with the free 25 year warranty like🤣 that’s common sense brotha

  • @jkrofchick90
    @jkrofchick90 4 місяці тому +212

    I’m still all about bentonite . I just don’t think a liner pond is something I would like to eat fish from . If the water sits on the rubber/plastic liner for years it’s gotta leech some chemicals of some kind . I will always chose bentonite over liner ponds . I just think of some shitty plastic Florida hotel pond when I think of liners 😂

    • @derick-smith
      @derick-smith 4 місяці тому +10

      I never thought of the effect on the harvested fish, that is an interesting point to consider.

    • @zachweston6878
      @zachweston6878 4 місяці тому +2

      Wouldn’t it make the fish taste rubbery over time?

    • @Gatesoutdoors
      @Gatesoutdoors 4 місяці тому +4

      The hatchery pond is liner

    • @mattcary8075
      @mattcary8075 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Gatesoutdoorsa year compared to potentially 10 years

    • @ntomnia585
      @ntomnia585 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Gatesoutdoors those fish aren't going to reproduce in that liner pond. He just buys fish to put in. Breeding is a different animal and I don't see Flair doing it.

  • @reeddickey3637
    @reeddickey3637 3 місяці тому +1

    I do lake work in Nebraska for a living weird enough. Absolutely do not do a liner it works for small back yard ponds but for the size you want it will be a bigger head ache.

  • @Zander_lund
    @Zander_lund 3 місяці тому +1

    I’d do bentonite and clay make sure you do it right. I’d also make your pond deeper so you have more fish species opportunities that you can stock. Liners can have many issues with natural wildlife such as muskrats, snapping turtles, and possibly catfish.

  • @gusswier3952
    @gusswier3952 4 місяці тому +150

    I suggest you go as deep as you can. That way you have more fish choices. I miss the old house ponds.

  • @jamesy1979
    @jamesy1979 4 місяці тому +9

    If you get a hole in a clay and bentonite bottom, you can add a few bags of bentonite near the leak, and the bentonite will flow towards the leak and expand and seal in the leak. So it can last a lifetime

  • @bamnasitis775
    @bamnasitis775 4 місяці тому

    Awesome you are creating a feedback loop to get information from others who have tried to so a pond ao you can get insight

  • @noahtittle1233
    @noahtittle1233 4 місяці тому +2

    Have a lawyer look into the fine details of the warranty. They always have exceptions to there warranty about installation and such. That could really help in your decision making process. I would also add that you could bentonite parts of the pond first. Say measure the pond for a couple weeks if you haven't already and see where the water stays. Then bentonite up a couple feet and see if it holds. You may just have a section that isn't holding or area.

  • @Strugglinginlife
    @Strugglinginlife 4 місяці тому +17

    I am not an expert by any means but after some quick research I say the bentonite or the clay and bentonite method. If your pond is currently not holding water… you are solely relying on that liner. Although it may be under warranty for 25 years, if there is an issue with the liner in a deep part you are going to have to drain the entire pond and start the whole thing over again. Let’s say you go 7-9 years with no issue and have 10-16 pound bass in there and the liner rips or a muskrat rips through it… all those years are gone. Your pond is going to end up looking exactly how it is currently. Making it as natural as possible reduces the risk and fixing an issue may be more expensive but it doesn’t wipe out all of your years of growing those fish. Just my thoughts.

  • @frankhintz4504
    @frankhintz4504 4 місяці тому +34

    Dig it deeper. Clay and bentonite it. Stock it with Walleye, Perch, Muskie, Smallmouth, Largemouth and Bluegill.

    • @troybrooks2066
      @troybrooks2066 4 місяці тому +5

      Don’t think you can have musky’s in a 2 acre pond. Well, you can, but you won’t have anything else.

    • @fuzztsimmers3415
      @fuzztsimmers3415 3 місяці тому

      ​@@troybrooks2066 sure cause thats how it works

  • @sniperpunk9561
    @sniperpunk9561 4 місяці тому +1

    Flair! that rabbit hut is a great source of fertilizer. You should build a nice garden in the spring.

  • @drewman3046
    @drewman3046 4 місяці тому +2

    I feel like you should do the clay and betnite (however you spell it). Becuase you’re going to be fishing it and if the snag the liner and get a hole in it you’re going to have to redo the same process. I know that liner is thick as hell but still just to be safe go with the clay option

  • @jkrofchick90
    @jkrofchick90 4 місяці тому +39

    Also , liners will eventually degrade . It may take 15-20 years but once it fails what do you do? Drain the wholepond Pull it up and find a place to pay to dump all the plastic and put bentonite ? Just think even the nicest most expensive tarps you cover your stuff with will degrade and fall apart .

    • @hkiss95
      @hkiss95 4 місяці тому

      that shit is rated for 40 years minimum lol

    • @Something-Somes
      @Something-Somes 4 місяці тому

      @@hkiss95 Depends on the thickness and environment.

  • @Snap-Time
    @Snap-Time 4 місяці тому +52

    *Clay + Bentonite > Artificial Liner* - _Do you want a want a pond or a glorified swimming pool?_

    • @hkiss95
      @hkiss95 4 місяці тому +2

      he wants it to hold water permanently lol putting a foot or so of dirt on top of the liner doesnt effect the aesthetic of the pond

    • @Echo-_Uniform
      @Echo-_Uniform 4 місяці тому +1

      I know right

  • @mitchellpierce5695
    @mitchellpierce5695 4 місяці тому +1

    Flair, I would definitely bentonite it and make sure you put a spillway in because you do not want water going over your embankment because once it starts washing that other side out it will bye bye pond. Technical term ‘dam over topping’ research that

  • @mikeschroedter5757
    @mikeschroedter5757 4 місяці тому +1

    Would it help to do soil samples from the clay/bentonite sites you went to and see if there's a difference between the one that worked and the one that leaks? Then take a soil same from your property and compare them. Either way whatever you choose I can't wait to see the darn pond. Lol.

  • @thedelcodave
    @thedelcodave 4 місяці тому +19

    Bentonite and clay with proper installation. Back in the first video the pond dam was clearly leaking through. Core trench with proper compaction.

  • @dizzlefshizzle
    @dizzlefshizzle 4 місяці тому +19

    It's easier when you have other people spending your money!😅😅 but after you talked to the people with bentonite, that route seems cheaper also considering you sold everything to save and spending equal money for either. So you would save money, and if tge liner has a 25-year warranty, it probably wouldn't last much longer than that in the long run and the companymightnot evenbe around! If it was me, I'd do the bentonite, and it will eventually work itself out and maybe have to run the well a few times a year! You said it yourself that the truck of bentonite didn't cost that much, and i have a feeling that your pond is only leaking in 1 exact spot, where it goes down into the creek! So you can also use bentonite with the pond full and not have to drain it to fix.😏

  • @user-gv8pm9wd4k
    @user-gv8pm9wd4k 4 місяці тому

    Y'all get it. Good luck fellas

  • @mimi-yt7gq
    @mimi-yt7gq 4 місяці тому +1

    Nature made is best. Like others are saying a liner company will try anything not to fix or replace on their dollar even if you have a warranty they will find a loop hole out and you will be screwed. We did a liner on a 2 acre pound and 8 years end the company went under and we had to drain the pond pull out the liner and start over. Looking back and talking to pond builders and owners of ponds we where told to fill it up and see what happenes. So we add bentonite and filled her up she held water. We did have to add water the first two years but then everything settled in and Kurdish where much happier in a natural pond I like to say they are!
    Good luck on your decision!

  • @benjonke
    @benjonke 4 місяці тому +11

    If you get a hole in a liner you will need to drain to the point of the hole to patch it. If theres a leak with bentonite you can dump it in the area of the lake of the leak and it can get into the leak and patch.

  • @troycooper8952
    @troycooper8952 4 місяці тому +6

    My problem with a liner would be adding structure to your pond for the fish we built a pond and just used the betonite no leaks for ten years now

  • @BradleysAdventures
    @BradleysAdventures 4 місяці тому

    HEY FLAIR if y'all ever want a garden or even a raised garden take the rebait manure
    and straw and pile it up let it is and flip it like once a month for like 6 months once it looks like soil its ready to use perfect compost

  • @ryanlee6147
    @ryanlee6147 3 місяці тому

    Thing about the liner and warranty is you're taking into consideration that you'll be running a boat in there, shooting it with pews, backing boats into it, driving the Argo in it. It's def gonna tear n leak, and that's probably not covered under warranty.

  • @brandonm6052
    @brandonm6052 4 місяці тому +6

    I use the same gate latches and when it freezes I have them on single posts and they’re off the same amount. Summer they’ll latch otherwise I need them pulled over like you.
    We’ve been dry enough the last two years that you were working with super dehydrated soil. It may change some with the moisture but likely still have issues.

  • @dakotaalbright7414
    @dakotaalbright7414 4 місяці тому

    Ready for the shed hunting vids

  • @user-rf9tw8vs8g
    @user-rf9tw8vs8g 4 місяці тому

    Life is always good when flair posts

  • @gabemcclain8465
    @gabemcclain8465 4 місяці тому +6

    I’m working to get into wildlife management currently so I don’t know much about pond building but something worth noting is the difference in the bank around the natural pond and the liner pond. Obviously the liner pond seems to be a newer build but if the liner is buried around those edges nothing will ever grow around your pond. I would guess you like the idea of seeing ducks, dove, or other wildlife around your property and using your pond. Having native or atleast natural vegetation around your pond is going to make a big difference in that aspect. Atleast in my opinion. Love the videos and all you do!

    • @gabemcclain8465
      @gabemcclain8465 4 місяці тому +1

      You can always plant stuff over the liner but at the end of the day anything with semi deep roots isn’t going to hold up with a liner buried under it

    • @Something-Somes
      @Something-Somes 4 місяці тому +1

      @@gabemcclain8465 You don't want to hunt waterfowl in a body of water that has a liner. Its not ideal lol.

  • @bodenj16
    @bodenj16 4 місяці тому +11

    I say you do the clay and the bentnite and clay then pack the soil on top and the make the contours for spawning and stuff

  • @tristenwieters8319
    @tristenwieters8319 4 місяці тому +1

    I think bentonite or clay and bentonite and just have it done professionally or compact it really well. When we did our pond we had it clay lined and it sealed fine with proper overflow into a creek. I say natural is best so you and the fish are happy

  • @collinweithaus8892
    @collinweithaus8892 4 місяці тому

    I like the liner with rocks around and a beach !

  • @simplyserpents7254
    @simplyserpents7254 4 місяці тому +4

    To me it sounds like clay and bentonite is the best all around. The one with the leak was only bentonite. I think that this method gives you a great long term natural pond without the worry of putting a hole in a liner.

  • @tracigiannobile5026
    @tracigiannobile5026 4 місяці тому +6

    I would use bentonite because the liner might give toxic chemicals that might harm the fish

  • @jjbritz4011
    @jjbritz4011 4 місяці тому +1

    The pro of a liner. It is a proposability that it won't leak, but the cons is. If a boat to shallow, it could pop the line.

  • @lisandroserna7385
    @lisandroserna7385 4 місяці тому

    Ralph is chillin haha it gets cold as hell in the desert as well

  • @colethompson8481
    @colethompson8481 4 місяці тому +15

    You could always try the clay/bentonite on a smaller scale at your property to make sure it works

    • @stayfrostystayvigilant144
      @stayfrostystayvigilant144 4 місяці тому

      That’s a good idea but the amount of pressure would be different just cause it would hold 4 ft of water doesn’t mean it would hold 15 ft of water

    • @fauxque5057
      @fauxque5057 4 місяці тому

      I don't see rhe reason to test it. Bentonite and clay are the tried true and proven way to build ponds. As long as whoever is spreading it out and packing it down is qualified there'd be no surprises. The last thing you want is someone who shorts the order and goes too thin which would cause problems.
      Get the thickness in writing in the contract and watch everything they do. Don't pay until you are satisfied the job is done right

  • @scrotchrocket6054
    @scrotchrocket6054 4 місяці тому +8

    if you want to ensure it doesn't leak and you dont have any other factors to figure in , ie .. silt run-in , any water constant inlet or outlet ... lots of info needed to make a decision to help .. BUT... pack in some bentonite, put in a liner , cover it with safe soil to build your structure inside .... the bentonite would act as a 2nd safety for leaks if something pokes a hole in the liner , it wouldn't be a massive problem and possibly no problem at all ... or even mix the watersafe soil with bentonite to pack ontop of the liner for soil .....but it all boils down to if you do it yourself , how much money you are willing to pay , tons of factors we dont know to help you make a good decision

    • @Something-Somes
      @Something-Somes 4 місяці тому +1

      Using both methods is a bad idea. I have seen people make this mistake. The liner will get water and air under it and cause pockets and erosion over time. That will in turn create massive leaks that will cost a lot of money to fix. This type of thing happens with liners without using both methods.

  • @dangera.dragon2609
    @dangera.dragon2609 4 місяці тому

    I'd go with the liner, Flair. You can still do whatever you want with it, it's under warranty if something needs fixing unlike the other option, and you know it works already.

  • @crazycarlitropro2450
    @crazycarlitropro2450 4 місяці тому +1

    When will you make the jerky worldwide? I’d like some in Canada!! Been tryna get my hands on a bag my mouth is drooling to try it for the first time. I need some for fishing. Fellow Canadians would really appreciate it.

  • @MyBackyardScience
    @MyBackyardScience 4 місяці тому +8

    Even though it stinks that the weekend is almost over, today's Flair video definitely helps with the Sunday night dread! 😀

  • @dylanvandermeulen1425
    @dylanvandermeulen1425 4 місяці тому +3

    Honestly liner seems like the best bet as far as leaks but clay and bentonite allow you to continuously change the structure and contours to the fish that you decide to stock and if u decide you want to make it bigger or smaller

  • @Frank_Rosenbalm
    @Frank_Rosenbalm 4 місяці тому

    I like the liner just bc of the warranty. Having 25 years of warranty that grantees you having a pond with them fixing it if they need to. The ponds you looked at also didn’t have any clay so does the mix of clay and bentonite could be the deal and I feel like it’s more natural for fish.

  • @user-sm2ci8hq2p
    @user-sm2ci8hq2p 4 місяці тому +3

    Love to see that the pond has water in it you made a good choice flair love the content ❤

  • @TylerW.
    @TylerW. 4 місяці тому +4

    My biggest issues with a liner are how do you add lots of structure without concern of damaging the liner. Also lots of rotting material collects at the bottom of a pond with nowhere to go. My vote is bentonite. I see way less cons with bentonite. Maybe you can get a sponsor either way for the pond build.

  • @NatureProsOutdoors
    @NatureProsOutdoors 3 місяці тому

    The warranty is worth its weight in gold 💯 I’m with the boys on this one, liner is the way to go👌🏼

  • @brycejones9220
    @brycejones9220 4 місяці тому

    You are building the pond to fish. What would fish hooks do to a liner, and how would it be any easier to find a leak?Bentonite sounds like a much better option.

  • @wesleyr9868
    @wesleyr9868 4 місяці тому +5

    How are the fish going to bed on a liner or would you cover it in dirt? I think the more natural the better especially for building a trophy bass pond.

  • @BenHuntsAlot
    @BenHuntsAlot 4 місяці тому +3

    I was waiting all day for something to watch and my wish was granted with a absolute banger from the GOAT Flair

  • @matthewowens5884
    @matthewowens5884 4 місяці тому

    Hell yea flair posted another banger

  • @DelightfulCruiseShip-xn8dx
    @DelightfulCruiseShip-xn8dx 4 місяці тому +1

    The jerky is amazing

  • @dawsonkennedy960m
    @dawsonkennedy960m 4 місяці тому +4

    Day got way better!

  • @just-in6457
    @just-in6457 4 місяці тому

    Should bring your jerky and some Dux merch for the nice landowners giving advice

  • @sirshade222
    @sirshade222 4 місяці тому

    Why not keep it deeper still if you choose to use a liner? Throw some white bass in there or something for the deeper areas and shape a shelf for the beds for large mouth....the deeper areas can be used for cats too.

  • @dennisminshew9283
    @dennisminshew9283 4 місяці тому +4

    They use liners to seal up landfills and stuff like that. I’ve worked with the geo synthetic liners. They can patch damn near any size hole with the liners.

  • @andrewflairlover10
    @andrewflairlover10 4 місяці тому +3

    7:30 bango is ready for geese season!!!

  • @RealKepsi
    @RealKepsi 3 місяці тому

    my grandpa have acres of pond, using liner, with tons of rocks around it, no problem always overflow easy

  • @YouTubeFishin
    @YouTubeFishin 4 місяці тому +1

    Line and back fill at least the banks with dirt it’ll give you even more protection. If you don’t want it that big/deep put a good 6” or more should keep banjos arrows out unless he’s trying to puncture it lol

  • @sampowell9061
    @sampowell9061 4 місяці тому +5

    Yall should’ve put some black boxers in the box that says beefcake on the band and little Red Bull heads on them. 😂

  • @MyBackyardScience
    @MyBackyardScience 4 місяці тому +6

    My only concern about the liner would be if there was any toxicity associated with the liner material since you and your family will be eating the fish. Maybe it's a non-issue, but that would be my only reservation.

  • @sayianslayatv865
    @sayianslayatv865 4 місяці тому

    I just can’t wait to see the end project and banjo fishing with a hello kitty pole

  • @daanyaalsaley4481
    @daanyaalsaley4481 4 місяці тому

    Liner, some ponds in South Africa have liners and you'll never say it has a liner plus holds water extremely well!

  • @bradyhunt8940
    @bradyhunt8940 4 місяці тому +4

    Flair you should do a catch clean cook rabbit hunt

  • @BenHuntsAlot
    @BenHuntsAlot 4 місяці тому +17

    Who here loves flair! Flair is the goat!

  • @bradleyfrench3080
    @bradleyfrench3080 4 місяці тому

    I’m thinking you should do the liner with a sand beach that’d be awsome

  • @rep1989
    @rep1989 4 місяці тому

    take soil from your pond add to a bucket with holes in the bottom add bentonite and clay and see how many inches it takes before it stops leaking

  • @loganpeters8350
    @loganpeters8350 4 місяці тому +3

    i think that you should get a male American Blackbelly ram for the backyard farm. I think it would be a good addition to the farm.

  • @Benny10
    @Benny10 4 місяці тому +7

    SHEWWWW bring the pond building / shack !

    • @chaselivingston5026
      @chaselivingston5026 4 місяці тому

      I would go with the liner it s end like the better choice

  • @flynndecker2921
    @flynndecker2921 4 місяці тому

    I recon put the liner in and just make a sick pond

  • @chasecurtis1754
    @chasecurtis1754 4 місяці тому

    Do a liner than ad dirt on top of the liner for the fish and animals

  • @ashojn
    @ashojn 4 місяці тому +4

    Greetings from Belize 🇧🇿 ❤

  • @ashojn
    @ashojn 4 місяці тому +3

    Hopefully we get a lake with fish this year

  • @jonathanphilpot6160
    @jonathanphilpot6160 4 місяці тому

    What about that 2 part polymer that bamabass used. Also Rob used that after dying it to see where the water is leaking from

  • @larrolivin3159
    @larrolivin3159 4 місяці тому

    I like the math on those liner stats. Also, hybrid strippers and lots of shad will make for amazing fishing videos. Thank me later!

  • @smokez4123
    @smokez4123 4 місяці тому +23

    Well if you do go with a liner and I remember you saying you was scared about it getting ripped or getting hooked and torn .. can’t you lay down the liner and put like a foot of dirt on top of the liner to help protect ot

    • @samschroeder5034
      @samschroeder5034 4 місяці тому +1

      Did u even watch the damn video? Dunce. Yes you put dirt on top.

    • @smokez4123
      @smokez4123 4 місяці тому +11

      @@samschroeder5034 yes I did watch the whole video .. I commented that cause it popped in my head at the time. No reason to be ass

    • @Biggest-T
      @Biggest-T 4 місяці тому +1

      you can put dirt on top just if the liner breaks he has to go through the trouble of removing all the dirt finding the hole then patching it then adding dirt and material back while hoping you don’t rip the liner

  • @Mrtoxictoxic
    @Mrtoxictoxic 4 місяці тому +4

    Hello Iam one of your fans I've always wanted pond or atleast make one this closest I can get .Bentonite is considered the best material for use in a pond for several reasons. Here are a few of the key reasons why bentonite is preferred for pond construction and maintenance:
    1. Excellent Waterproofing Properties: Bentonite is known for its exceptional ability to swell and create an impermeable barrier when hydrated. This makes it an ideal choice for lining ponds, as it helps to prevent water seepage and effectively waterproof the pond to retain water.
    2. Environmentally Friendly: Bentonite is a natural clay material, making it an environmentally friendly choice for pond construction. It is non-toxic, readily available, and does not pose a risk to aquatic life or the surrounding ecosystem.
    3. Self-Sealing Properties: When properly compacted, bentonite forms a self-sealing and cohesive layer that can withstand external forces and resist erosion. This self-sealing property helps maintain the integrity of the pond liner, reducing the need for frequent maintenance and repairs.
    4. Adaptability: Bentonite can be used in various forms, including granular, powdered, or in a blanket form, making it adaptable to different pond construction and sealing requirements.
    5. Cost-Effective: In comparison to synthetic liners or other alternative materials, bentonite is often a more cost-effective option for pond construction and maintenance, providing a high level of performance at a lower cost.
    6. Natural Nutrient Source: Bentonite can provide valuable nutrients to the pond water. As it slowly breaks down over time, it releases essential minerals and trace elements that can benefit aquatic plants and fauna within the pond ecosystem.
    7. Longevity: Properly installed bentonite liners can offer long-lasting protection for ponds. The material's resistance to degradation and ability to self-heal minor damage can contribute to the durability of pond liners made from bentonite.
    8. Excellent Sealing Performance: Bentonite's ability to swell and compact when hydrated creates an effective barrier against water loss, making it a reliable choice for preventing seepage and maintaining adequate water levels in ponds.
    9. Limited Maintenance: Once installed, bentonite liners generally require minimal upkeep and maintenance when compared to other types of liners, reducing the need for ongoing repairs or replacements.
    10. Ecological Benefits: In addition to being environmentally friendly, bentonite can contribute to the overall health of a pond's ecosystem. Its natural composition and sustainable extraction make it an eco-conscious choice for pond construction.
    11. Stability: Bentonite's ability to form a stable, low-permeability layer provides a secure foundation for ponds, helping to maintain water levels and mitigate the risk of soil erosion.
    When evaluating the use of bentonite for pond construction or maintenance, it's essential to consider the specific requirements of the project and the characteristics of the site to ensure that the material is suitable for the intended application. Consulting with a professional in pond construction or geotechnical engineering can provide valuable insight into the optimal use of bentonite for any given project (AND NO NONE OF THIS IS COPPY AND PASTE YOU CAN GO LOOK IF YOU WANT ) sincerely-Arthur

    • @Mrtoxictoxic
      @Mrtoxictoxic 4 місяці тому

      Idk if I miss spell any of this but props to anyone reading this 👏

    • @Mrtoxictoxic
      @Mrtoxictoxic 4 місяці тому

      Also my prefrontal context is still developing

    • @Biggest-T
      @Biggest-T 4 місяці тому

      @@Mrtoxictoxicit didn’t take as long as I thought it would